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keep rolling right into the streets of philadelphia for their victory parade. they have not confirmed when that will be, but the eagles did post on x overnight. billy, we'll see you friday. sounds like a pretty good indication to me. back to you. >> kaylee hartung fashionable this morning getting in on the action. thank you. that does it for us this hour. i'll be back here at noon eastern. for now. i'm ana cabrera, reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. >> good morning. 11 a.m. eastern, 8. >> a.m. pacific. >> i'm jose diaz-balart. >> we begin. >> this hour with what could be a new front in president trump's trade war. >> the president is set to announce. >> as soon as today. >> that he. >> will place a 25% tariff on all steel and aluminum imports. he also says he will impose reciprocal tariffs on countries that have imposed tariffs on u.s. goods. this, as the
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president and his allies continue to reshape the federal government. just this morning, office of management and budget director russell vought, who has taken on the role of acting director of the consumer financial protection bureau, instructed employees to stand down on performing work tasks unless they get permission from him to do so. this comes after he issued a series of directives over the weekend, effectively bringing the watchdog agency to a standstill. and on saturday, a federal judge blocked tech mogul elon musk's department of government efficiency, or doge, from accessing sensitive and confidential information stored at the treasury department. during an interview over the weekend, the president was asked if he trusts elon musk. >> trust elon. oh, he's not gaining anything. in fact, i wonder how he can devote the time to it. he's so into it. but i told him, do that. then i'm going to tell him very soon. like maybe in 24 hours to go
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check the department of education. he's going to find the same thing. then i'm going to go. go to the military. let's check the military. we're going to find billions, hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud and abuse. and, you know, the people elected me on that. >> with us now, nbc news senior white house correspondent garrett haake. garrett. good morning. the president is set to announce these new tariffs on steel and aluminum imports today. who is that affecting? >> well. >> it will affect these canadian producers of those metals and also producers from other countries. although it is canada that makes much of the steel we import. and almost all of the aluminum we import ultimately. it could affect american consumers, especially if you're in the market for a car or perhaps a company you work for buys heavy equipment that uses these materials. the white house hopes ultimately, these are the kind of structural tariffs that will reshape industrial economies, really all across the western hemisphere. that could take time. the effect on people's wallets may happen much
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more quickly. and gary, the latest focus of the trump administration seems to be the consumer financial protection bureau. what exactly is the cfpb and what's the impact of that move? yeah, this was an agency created during the obama administration originally dreamed up actually by senator elizabeth warren back when she was harvard professor elizabeth warren. the goal is to have an agency here in washington to protect consumers, to protect the little guy. this is an agency that's created rules to limit overdraft fees on your bank account, or the amount of money you might be charged on credit card transactions for fees and interest rates. what the immediate effect of this freeze and sort of targeting by trump budget officials is on the agency is unclear. but if the experience over at usaid is any indication, the trump team wants to dramatically shrink, if not eliminate, the footprint of the cfpb. this is going to be, as you said, a kind of a major battlefield, if you will, this week here in washington. and, gary, meanwhile, the president was. also asked about whether he
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has had any conversations with russia's vladimir putin. what did he have to say? yeah. and the backstory on this goes back quite some time, jose, because the president has been, i think, intentionally unclear about his conversations with vladimir putin going back through the campaign and the transition. he told an interview, not on camera with the new york post over the weekend that, in fact, he had spoken to the russian president. but when reporters tried to ask him about it again over the weekend, they got kind of a confusing answer back from the president. here's what he said. >> about it. >> and if we are talking, i don't want to tell you about the conversation. it's too early, but i do believe we're making progress. we want to stop the ukraine russia war, and i want to stop it just because i hate to see all these young people being killed. the soldiers are being killed by the hundreds of thousands. >> jose, i will say that over the last couple of weeks, we've seen the president's tone shift to be a little bit more challenging of russia and of
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putin. he has suggested that vladimir volodymyr zelensky in ukraine is ready and willing to sit down and discuss how to end the war, and that putin has to get to that point, too. later in that same conversation, the president suggested that he would like to meet with putin in person at the appropriate time to start figuring out how that war comes to a conclusion. so watch this space. it is very much a reporting target for me and every other reporter on this beat to figure out what exactly the president and vladimir putin are talking about. no one better than you, garrett hake, thank you very much from the white house. appreciate it. and joining us now, msnbc political analyst juanita tolliver and former florida republican congressman carlos curbelo. so, carlos, the latest cbs news poll shows the president with a 53% approval rating after his first three weeks in office. what do you make of that? well. it means that. >> the president. >> is doing. >> a lot. >> of the things that the american people elected. >> him. >> to do. the coalition he put. >> together wanted him to be. this radical change agent. now, that doesn't mean that he has
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free reign. we also saw in that same poll, for example, that while. >> people support. >> tariffs on on china, they are less supportive of tariffs on our neighbors canada and mexico. so how the president does what he has been elected to do matters. we are also seeing in how he reforms the federal government, right. how that happens matters if they go too fast, if they act in a way that seems abusive or mistreating of federal employees, that could end up backfiring and hurting his momentum. but so far, so good. in terms of the president's numbers, he has rarely had numbers this high. well. >> he's never had that that number in the first during his first administration. but juanita, that cbs. >> news poll also. >> shows. that 69% think president trump is tough. 63% he's energetic, 60%. >> focused, 58% effective. >> how do you explain this? juanita.
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>> i want to point out two other numbers, jose, because 51% of those respondents also said they expect his policies to increase their prices, and 66% said that they they. 66% said that they have concerns about how the fact that he's not giving enough attention to lowering the cost of goods, something that he promised and ran on doing that he's not delivered on as we see prices increase, or as you and garrett just talked about, the impact of tariffs potentially impacting consumers. that's what i think is an indicator that the public understands that, yes, donald trump is doing what he's promised and the harmful policies targeting undocumented people and shifting government and trying to cut costs in government. but every time he makes one of those steps, i think people are questioning how it's going to impact them. is it actually going to improve their quality of life? is it going to lower the cost of food for them? but also it's an indicator that people understand that he's not delivering on one thing that they explicitly demanded of him
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a change in their economic outlook. and so while he's enjoying 53% right now, while he's enjoying people saying he looks energetic right now, that's all based on executive orders and not any type of substantive legislative action that will truly improve their state of being. >> you know, and, juanita, i mean, the president has been signing so many executive orders, taking all kinds of actions. i mean, in many ways, it's like democrats and others. are simply just deluged. >> with all of this. here's what some. >> democratic senators had to say. >> about this over the weekend. listen to this. >> i think this is the most serious. constitutional crisis the country has faced, certainly since watergate. >> we are. >> in a crisis right. >> now. >> and democrats will use every tool. possible to. >> protect americans, to drive down costs. >> to make us safer. >> we are at a point where we are basically on the cusp of a constitutional crisis. seeing this administration taking steps that are so clearly illegal. >> what you. >> saw there, that that word
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crisis was utilized by all of them. democrats are. >> saying this is. >> a crisis. who is this a crisis for? >> and how should democrats. be responding to this? >> it's a crisis for the people whose rights are at risk. it's a crisis for the federal and civil civic employees who are being targeted by the administration. and what we see right now is that state and local leaders in the democratic party are the ones stepping it up. those are the attorneys general who have been in court day after day, filing cases and lawsuits against donald trump and his administration for the way that they're being targeted, whether that's information at the treasury department that we've seen elon musk and his team gain access to, or if it's targeting of anti-trans language and, and, and civil rights abuses that are coming through these executive orders that are being stopped with temporary restraining orders in the courts. now, democrats, i'm glad to see that they're saying this is a crisis, and i'm expecting and looking for them to put themselves in between the trump and musk administration and the general
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public. that's something that i think we've seen state leaders in terms of governors and attorneys general calling on congressional democrats to do more of. and so when they say crisis, i'm looking to them to actually are they going to potentially engage in a government shutdown in terms of the next negotiations on government funding bills, or how are they going to step up and stop business as usual when they continuously emphasize that there is a crisis and people's needs are in play? you talked about the consumer financial protection bureau, right? like, what are some of the demands that democrats are going to be putting up in this next budget negotiation to protect the people from what we've been seeing from these executive orders? >> juanita tolliver. >> thank you. >> so much, carlos. you're staying with us today because in just 90s, we'll dig deeper into the efforts to block. >> dodge. >> speak with north carolina attorney general. >> jeff jackson, who was. >> part of the lawsuit to stop the elon musk led group. plus, the federal employees union calls. >> it a scam. >> well, a judge blocked.
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blocking elon musk's department of government efficiency from gaining access to personal data stored at the. >> treasury department. it comes after a group of attorneys general from 19 states filed a suit to block musk's efforts. with us now is one of the attorneys general involved in the case, north carolina attorney general jeff jackson, i really appreciate your time. thank you for being with us this morning. what's the premise of your lawsuit? the premise. >> of the lawsuit is that the law. >> was broken. >> not just that we may have disagreed with this personally or from. >> a policy standpoint. >> but that actual, specific federal. >> laws were broken. >> there are federal laws. >> about how. >> privacy is protected. >> with this kind of data. >> and then there are laws about the process for changing these kinds of rules. we believe both of those sets of laws were broken. >> and what are you most opposed to? >> the fact that laws were broken? as attorney general, i told people i was going to be an an independent attorney general. i was going to do this job in a
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nonpartisan way. i'm not looking for do i agree or disagree? i'm looking for was the law broken? if so, that's the line we're going to defend that line. >> yeah. and so when we talk about the federal laws and whether they were broken or not, what is north carolina's, i guess legal standing in this lawsuit? >> our legal standing is that the information, the sensitive information of people in this state could have been exposed. there is potential harm to the state as a result of these laws that we believe were broken. >> so what kind of injuries is the state having? >> well, if sensitive information is released to the public, that is injury in and of itself. >> you know, the. >> vice. >> president, vice president vance tweeted after the judge's ruling in your lawsuit, quote, if a judge tried to tell a general how to conduct a military operation, that would be illegal if a judge tried to command the attorney general and how to use her discretion as a
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prosecutor, that's also illegal. judges aren't allowed to control the executive's legitimate power. what's your reaction to this? >> my reaction to that is that i serve in the military. i'm a jag officer in the military. i'm an attorney for the military, and generals consult their jags all the time to make sure that they're acting in accordance with the law. >> and so you think there's simply there's an overreach. i mean, what is it that is, according to the vice president, something that is incompatible? >> i think what the vice president is doing is looking for ways to rhetorically push back. i think it's a red flag when you've been accused of breaking the law and your response isn't, actually, i didn't break the law. and here's why. i also think the threat to impeach judges here is hollow. the process for impeaching a federal judge is the same as impeaching a president. it's a majority vote in the house, followed by a two thirds vote in the senate. hasn't happened in
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15 years. i don't think it's going to happen in this case either. >> north carolina attorney general jeff jackson, i thank you very much for being with us today. really appreciate it. >> thank you. take care. >> likewise, we turn now to breaking news out of the middle east. moments ago, the armed wing of hamas announced that it will be delaying releasing the next round of hostages, which was set to take place on saturday. joining us now from tel aviv is nbc's yasmin vossoughian. yasmin, what's the latest on the ground there and why is this change of mind by hamas? >> so there was a potential concern that something like this would happen. a there was a delay in negotiations of phase two, which concerned a lot of people as to whether or not this thing was going to fall apart. and there were warnings coming from the al-qassam brigades, which is a basically military arm of hamas, saying, in fact, that they felt as if israel wasn't holding up their end of the bargain when it came to specifically humanitarian aid. we're just getting this news in over the last ten minutes or so
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in which they have essentially said they are indefinitely delaying the release of any more remaining hostages, and they gave three reasons as to why. one, they cited humanitarian aid. this has been something that i've been consistently talking about with tents, caravans, mobile homes. as part of phase one of this cease fire deal, they had promised to provide tents, mobile homes, caravans as well as we well know, and we've seen the images coming out of north gaza, especially as to where the majority of the destruction has taken place. there are no buildings, there is nowhere for anybody really to live. there is no roof over the heads of many of these palestinians. hence the reason why they need these tents, these caravans and these mobile homes. now, the al-qassam brigade, hamas essentially is saying they haven't held up their end of the bargain when it comes to this humanitarian aid. so we're not really releasing any more hostages. something else they're citing as well is repeated shelling inside gaza. there were two separate incidents that took place over the weekend. first, it was the killing of three separate individuals in gaza city. now,
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the idf is saying that these individuals actually approached idf military and the and the border, and they have been warned repeatedly not to approach the idf, not to approach the military because they approach the military. it seems as if they opened fire on these three palestinians and they were subsequently killed. there was another incident in southern gaza, near khan younis, a suburb of khan yunis, one of the cities in which some of these hostages have been released from. and that woman was also killed in khan younis. so, citing repeated shelling and killings inside gaza as another one of the reasons. and then the third reason in which hamas is citing is not allowing enough palestinians to cross from south to north. as i mentioned a little bit earlier, we've been talking about this for the last day or so. there's the next corridor which separates south and north gaza, and that is where the idf occupied since the beginning of this war, since essentially october 7th, really, they pulled out of the netzarim corridor yesterday, allowing
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free passage of palestinians from south to north, now the al-qassam brigade, hamas essentially citing that that enough palestinians are not being allowed to cross from south to north. if you remember, hundreds of thousands of palestinians had to evacuate the north of gaza during the intense moments of this war, and they went south. they are now going back north to see what has happened to their homes, to preview the destruction, to see what they can find. and because they are citing now that the israelis are not allowing them to cross back north, that is one of the reasons they are saying they are keeping more hostages from being released. >> yasmin vossoughian in tel aviv for us. thank you very much, yasmin. still ahead, more on president trump's plan for new tariffs and why he ordered the treasury to stop making pennies. plus, we'll go to capitol hill, where the pressure is on house speaker mike johnson to come up with ways to pay for
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representing 800,000 government workers is trying to prevent the buyout from moving forward. joining us now, nbc's ken dilanian and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. so, ken, good morning. where exactly does this buyout program stand as of this moment? hey, good morning jose. well, as you described, there is a fundamental disagreement about whether it's legal. and so a federal judge in boston is going to hear arguments at 2 p.m. this afternoon in this lawsuit brought by federal employees unions, the unions allege that this so-called fork in the road offer from trump and elon musk is arbitrary and capricious, in violation of the administrative procedures act, and exceeded the office of personnel management authority under what's called the antideficiency act. now, opm extended the offer to all employees except military, postal service and immigration personnel, with some exemptions for key national security positions. lawyers for one union wrote that the forced directive is, quote, a sweeping and stunningly arbitrary action to solicit blanket resignations of
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federal workers. and they added that, quote, defendants have not even argued, nor could they, that the fork directive was the product of rational or considered decision making. the trump administration obviously disputes that. jose. yeah, i mean, lisa. so give us, if you would, a little deeper dive into the key arguments before the court. it's it seems as though, from what ken is saying, the plaintiffs are saying that it's legal to hire as many people as the federal government wishes, but it's illegal to fire as many federal employees as the government wishes. >> that's not quite what the plaintiffs are saying, jose. i mean, one of the things that they're saying here is that there is not money that's been congressionally authorized or appropriated for a buyout program. the trump administration's response to that is we already have money appropriated in the federal budget to pay these people for doing their jobs by offering them a buyout that essentially offers them compensation. through that september 30th date. we are not authorizing
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appropriations in advance. we're just taking advantage of funds that are already there. but the plaintiffs aren't saying necessarily that you can hire as many people as you like. rather, what they're saying is congress has the power of the purse, and this program inappropriately takes that power away from them in the guise of what is really tantamount to a regulation. and that's where ken's description of the administrative procedures act comes in. the administrative procedures act is a way of challenging federal regulation. and the plaintiffs here are arguing this is like a regulation without calling it a regulation, by overhauling the entire federal employment system, instead of dealing with people as individuals within the merit systems protection board and other federal labor statutes, they are basically regulating without following the guardrails around how regulations are supposed to wor. and they haven't offered, most importantly, a reason for doing
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it. on the contrary, they say that states and localities will lose here because there's no insurance of any continuity of service. we don't have any idea who's going to take these offers in which agencies, and they can leave certain areas of the federal government severely under-resourced. that's really one of the plaintiff's major arguments. >> jose and lisa, i was just having a conversation with north carolina's ag, and i was, you know, quoting him what vice president vance said recently. he criticized the judiciary stepping in to review some of the trump administration's policies, writing in part, quote, judges aren't allowed to control the executive's legitimate power. what is the executive's legitimate power vis a vis the judiciary in this case? lisa. >> well, i hate to be cute, jose, but in some respects, the judiciary's interpretation of what the executive's legitimate power is what the executive's legitimate power is. there are a number of arguments for why this
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particular buyout program is unlawful. one of them is that it usurps authority from congress in the guise of regulations. but there are other arguments and some of these other doj's lawsuits about why the executive has overstepped here. if the executive is coming out and saying, actually, the judiciary has no legitimate role to play here on its own and interpreting the constitution, then we've got what experts are calling a real constitutional crisis, because our system of government depends on three co-equal coordinate branches, each with functions of their own. if the executive is saying the judiciary doesn't really have that role to play, and that's a role as fundamental as the first supreme court decision about judicial review, then we've got major problems here and our democratic republic. jose. >> so, ken, what does this mean? this lawsuit for those, i guess, 60,000 plus who have already accepted this buyout offer. that's right. as many as 60,000
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people. and this offer, in theory, allows them to be paid for another eight months after they stop working. now, if the judge decides the buyout is not lawful, it obviously puts these people in limbo. although, of course, we would expect the trump administration to appeal that ruling. those who signed up for the deal might fairly wonder, though, if they've put a target on their backs. and by the way, the number of takers is far short of the 5 to 10% of the workforce that the trump administration was hoping for. jose, that may be because critics have said, look, there are no guarantees here that the workers would actually reap the benefits of this deal. and in fact, recipients have had to sign away their rights to sue to enforce the agreement. jose. ken dilanian and lisa rubin, thank you very much. this morning. more on new escalations in president trump's trade war. the president saying he'll be announcing new tariffs on steel and aluminum today, with reciprocal tariffs on other countries also expected later this week. >> we'll also be announcing steel tariffs on monday. any steel coming into the united
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states is going to have a 25% tariff. >> on aluminum. aluminum to. >> it comes as today, china's counter tariffs of up to 15% on some u.s. imports, including coal and liquefied natural gas, are set to go into effect. nbc's christine romans joins us now. christine, good morning. what more do we know about all these new tariffs and what may be coming, i guess midweek? >> yeah. the president. >> very clear that steel. >> and aluminum tariffs are coming. quite quickly. and then. reciprocal tariffs he calls. >> them also. >> coming this week. those would be he. >> said on every. >> country there are potentially hundreds. >> if not. >> thousands of different categories of tariffs. he could be talking about there. >> and that's something that a lot of people are looking at. the european union in particular, especially for cars, it has higher tariffs on u.s. cars coming into the european union than, than than the opposite. and the president is saying it's a tariff for, you know, an eye for an eye, a tariff or a tariff is what the president is saying. we know that he really thinks that this
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is his tool for a lot of different ills. he has for years talked about trade deficits as a sign of weakness of the u.s. he has also been more recently talking about the drug trade, saying that this is not a this is a drug war, not a trade war that he is trying to that he is trying to create. but overall for certainly for supply chains, a lot of uncertainty seems to be coming down the pike. >> and so i think just it was during last night's super bowl that the president posted, he was directing the treasury department to start producing new pennies. what what will this do and why would the president be announcing this now? >> it's so interesting because, you know, we've heard this over the years. many times i've heard people saying, you know, it takes more money to make a penny than the penny is actually worth. and with so much more digital currency and online transactions, do we really need the $0.01 coin? the president is saying he's going to get rid of it. it would save something like $85 million. one of the interesting things about it is because of rising metals costs.
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it costs more money to make this penny. so he has told scott benson, the treasury secretary, to immediately stop printing new pennies. there is a question, however, whether congress actually is the person, is the is the entity that decides how much and the configuration of the coins in the american, in the american money supply. so we'll see if there is any kind of congressional oversight there. but the president is saying this may seem like small potatoes, but every penny that costs too much to make, he's serious for the american people that he wants to save money. >> christine romans, thank you so very much. and new this morning, senate minority leader chuck schumer is laying out in a new letter his plan to take on the trump administration. this comes as house speaker mike johnson is indicating he could release details today about how house republicans plan to pay for president trump's agenda. and also this week, trump cabinet nominees are facing procedural votes starting today with trump's controversial choice for director of national intelligence tulsi gabbard. nbc news white house correspondent
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vaughn hillyard is with us from the capitol this morning. vaughn, great seeing you. so how are senate democrats planning to take on the trump administration? >> right. >> actually, jose, in just the last few minutes, senate minority leader chuck schumer just sent a dear colleagues message to all of his senate colleagues in which they laid out the ways in which they intend to take on the republican majorities here in the senate, in the house, but also the president trump's administration. and what they say is a reach and a failure to comply with past budgets and to appropriate previously approved funds from the last congress. and that is where, in this letter, chuck schumer suggested that they intend to file briefs, along with litigants and litigation that is filed against maneuvers by the trump administration. but they also suggested in this letter here that they are going to try through their own hearings. they may not be formal hearings, but
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try to put government workers own stories on the forefront and urges them to be whistleblowers against what they say is overreach by the executive branch. now to note, jose, over the weekend, senate republicans were down at mar a lago with president trump. they have already put forward their own potential legislative package at the same time that speaker mike johnson and house republicans are preparing to put their own legislative package together, essentially two competing ideas on approaches to fulfilling president trump's agenda here. but all of this comes ahead of a government funding deadline of march 14th. so there's a lot on the plate for republicans right now. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you. appreciate it. up next, exclusive reporting on the trump administration's plan to reopen immigrant family detention centers. you're watching jose centers. you're watching jose diaz-balart re want a next level clean? swish with the whoa of listerine. it kills 99.9% of bad breath germs for five times more cleaning power than brushing and flossing alone.
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>> in the coming. >> days. >> there will be. >> a bid going out. >> what they would call. >> a request for proposal for private contractors, mainly. private prison companies, to bid on contracts to reopen family detention centers. there are. >> two main. >> ones that. >> would be. >> ready to bring back. both of them are in texas. >> both have. >> previously been operated. >> by private prison companies. >> and we should say, jose. >> this is something that happened under the obama administration. >> and. >> the first trump administration. it was. >> stopped by biden. >> what it does. >> is it holds. >> parents with children. >> together, even very young children. >> and under federal court. >> orders, they have to. >> abide by. >> certain conditions inside, including having school. having places. >> for children to. >> play, having a communal. setting so that it doesn't feel as punitive. >> this would allow. >> jose for ice. >> to begin arresting. more families, taking. >> them into detention. including young children. >> so that they. >> can be. >> held in. >> these facilities. >> before deportation. >> this is no longer really a need for families. >> coming across the border. >> because there are so. few
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allowed. >> to even. cross and claim asylum anymore. >> now, these. >> facilities would. >> be used to. >> hold those. >> who have already. >> been. >> living in the united. >> states before. >> they're deported. >> so it's. >> this it's a similar detention space we've seen in the past, but used in a different way. >> and so, julia, i mean, how long before these are up and running? and this is all through a private system? >> yeah. it could take some time, jose, because of course these companies have the space and they could easily do it. but it's the money. even though they put out these requests for proposals, it could take some time just with the federal bureaucracy and the time that it's supposed to take for bids to be able to come in, as well as for ice to have the money. as you know, they're already cash strapped, already limiting the number of migrants that they can arrest to make good on this trump promise for mass deportations. >> you know, carlos, what does this mean? i think i'm just thinking of the millions of people that live in our country in a mixed immigration status household. i mean, what does
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this tell them? well, jose, it really highlights the fact that this administration is going to continue being very aggressive about immigration enforcement. and these family. detention facilities are, in part, a response to the child separation policy. >> we saw in the first trump administration. >> which you covered extensively. we know there was a big public. outcry against that. this is. >> an alternative that. >> allows families to. >> at least stay together during this very difficult process. but it's also important to note, jose, that the political center on immigration has moved drastically in this country since the first trump administration. i think you're going to see a lot of public support for this administration to continue aggressively enforcing immigration law, including deporting entire families. >> and, carlos, i mean, a new cbs news poll shows that 59% of u.s. adults support the trump administration's program to deport migrants, 64% approve of
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sending troops to the southern border to help stop migrants from crossing. how do you see these numbers? >> i'm telling you, jose, the impact that the four years of the biden administration and the whole situation at the southwest border, the chaos, the humanitarian crisis have had on the american psyche, on the electorate is truly remarkable. that's why i think that this is the issue where the trump administration is going to have the most latitude to impose its will. i don't see any resistance coming from congress, democrats in congress, a lot of them are on defense. on the immigration issue now, voting with republicans on some fairly aggressive legislation that's already passed congress. so i think we're going to see more and more of this in the coming months. >> meanwhile, julia, a federal court blocked the trump administration from sending three venezuelan migrants to guantanamo bay. what's happening there? >> yeah. that's right. this is as this is part of president trump's plan to try to deport more people back to guantanamo bay in this case. this court
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said that trump could not deport these three venezuelans. but jose, other venezuelans have been sent to guantanamo bay. in fact, dhs has said that those people had ties to the tren de aragua gang. but this is all part of a legal challenge. many legal challenges that are mounting against trump trying to send more migrants to guantanamo bay. as we know, the aclu last week just asked for more information on the people that they're sending there, arguing that people who are not convicted of crimes really shouldn't be held in a high security setting. there is another migrant facility there that's been used for decades as a humanitarian mission for immigrants who are interdicted at sea. and but right now, we are seeing migrants being sent to this high security part. and i think we're going to continue to see legal challenges mounting against that policy. jose. >> thanks, julie ainsley and carlos curbelo, thank you both so very much. up next, super bowl mvp jalen hurts speaking out just moments ago after the eagles. apparently they really demolished the kansas city chiefs last night. we'll play
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sam brock joins us now from philadelphia. sam good morning. fiesta and philadelphia. ha ha. >> there was a big fiesta here right now. jose. look, euphoric is the description that i would use for the city of philadelphia. hard to believe they're even functional. based on what i witnessed on this very street last night. i'm on broad street right now. it goes up and down for miles. that's city hall over my shoulder. you're looking at some of the celebrations right now from the bars, but there were people out here, shoulder to shoulder, doing all the kinds of things you would expect the philadelphia fanbase to do, which included scaling buildings, pulling up light posts, firing off fireworks. luckily, jose, no reports of any injuries. the game itself was a pick'em, which is to say it was almost 5050. the chiefs barely favored by a point and a half. the eagles were up 24. nothing at halftime 34. nothing well into the third quarter. this was a complete and total demolition. and i want to point your attention to the story of their quarterback jalen hurts. what an
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incredible back story here. hurts shared the field with tua tagovailoa. he was his teammate at the university of alabama. tagovailoa now of course plays for the dolphins. hurts was benched back in 2018 in the national championship game for tagovailoa. had to transfer to the university of oklahoma just to become a starting quarterback again. drafted by the eagles in the second round, by no means was seen as a savior or even as a franchise cornerstone. and here he is delivering the city of philadelphia its second super bowl. moments ago hurts. commenting on this? take a listen. >> this whole entire journey of mine has been truly unprecedented. you know, just enduring some of the things and experiencing some of the bumps and, and joys and, and everything that i've endured. it's been unprecedented. i didn't dream of these moments. it was more so the work and the determination just to be the best that i can be. >> he never even dreamt of this,
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jose. and now it possibly the eagles might be just getting started. a couple of minutes ago, the city tweeted out that they are in fact going to be hosting their parade right here on friday. so in just five days we're waiting for more details. jose, back to you. >> sam brock in philadelphia. thank you, my friend. before we go so often, the good news doesn't get as much attention as the bad. so it's a good day to start highlighting some stories that bring a little joy to the world. >> there were tears of joy for this surprise. >> near boulder, colorado. >> students and staff. >> at hygiene elementary school cheering on councilor amy. >> ward. >> running into the arms of her army reserve husband, lieutenant colonel. >> brandon ward. >> she and their four kids thrilled to finally have him back after a ten month assignment overseas. >> i was just so. >> excited and happy and that we were all together.
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>> it wasn't. >> just a celebration of our family. >> it was also a celebration. >> of the community. here, that. marching band, it's pumping up the crowd at sunnyside high school. >> in fresno, california. >> we're sure about one thing. you're going to the super bowl. yes, including super bowl. >> where junior. >> gabriel garcia. >> a varsity wrestler who's been. >> battling cancer. >> got super bowl tickets. >> from the make a wish foundation. >> they made your wish. >> giving gabriel and his mom chance for some big fun in the big east. >> i'm excited. >> it's been a pleasure to be here, chief. >> in reno, nevada. a final radio call for. >> truckee meadows. >> fire chief. >> charlie moore. >> chief moore, chief. >> augie here. you a long and healthy retirement. full of peace and joy. >> thank you. >> chief. charlie retiring after 45 years in fire service, moved
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to tears as his. >> colleagues and. firefighter son cameron honored him one after the other. and both. >> your son and as one as your captain. >> from the bottom of my heart, i want. >> to say thank you for everything. >> what was the best part of your job? >> we've saved hundreds of lives. >> over the years. it's just so satisfying to be able to say. >> you dedicated your. >> life to that. charlie, take me to that day when you heard those. special messages over. >> the radio. >> and what were you feeling? >> just the. >> gratitude from the crew and. >> 45 years. is a special. >> and that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can always reach me on social media at jd balart. you can watch clips from our show youtube at msnbc.com/jdb. thank you for the privilege of your time. ana cabrera picks up with time. ana cabrera picks up with more news
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