>> comm for imprint for certain. >> we do have major. >> developments out of washington. >> have we already sort of crossed a rubicon. >> in terms of who we are as a. >> country and what. >> the rule. >> of law is? america is listening. >> to you right now, thinking. >> about what might have been. people hearing you, talking about the pushback and the fight in that mattering. >> what does. >> that mean in practical terms? >> what they're doing to immigrants. >> is something they say they're going to do every day. what's democratic strategy for trying to take that on? we've got a free press, a free people and an organized political opposition that represents fully. >> half the country. >> so here we go. >> it's on. >> right now on msnbc. the consumer financial protection bureau is now the latest target of the trump administration and elon musk's doge team. after a chaotic week for thousands of usaid employees. this as the courts try to keep up with a flurry of trump orders and musk actions, prompting questions about whether the white house will even listen to the judicial branch. and today, president

trump says he plans to ramp up his tariff policy, preparing to slap 25% tariffs on all steel and aluminum products. hello, i'm ana cabrera in new york. thank you for joining us. house democrats are now leading a rapid response task force to head up legal challenges to president trump's government overhaul, calling it an all hands on deck effort. senate democrats are also laying out plans, including asking potential whistleblowers to raise the alarm if they see any abuse of power launching this new website for those complaints. that's on top of the legal challenge already filed by unions and outside groups to block d.o.j. actions. today, a federal judge in boston takes a closer look at trump's big employee buyout the so-called fork in the road offer. while other courts have temporarily kept usaid workers on the job, and another federal judge blocked doj's access to the treasury. despite these legal

setbacks, president trump is standing by his agenda, and elon musk, most recently the world's richest man, is targeting fema and the consumer financial protection bureau, and the president now wants him to turn his attention to the department of education and even the pentagon. >> this and the people want me to find it. and i've had a great help with elon musk, who's been terrific. i'm going to tell him very soon, like maybe in 24 hours to go check the department of education. he's going to find the same thing. then i'm going to go go to the military. let's check the military. >> new polling shows the president's approval rating is at 53%. this is according to a new cbs yougov survey, with more than half of u.s. adults saying they're okay with doge having influence over how the government operates, including 30% of democrats. let's dig into all of this with nbc news senior white house correspondent kelly

o'donnell, nbc news chief capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles, new york times chief white house correspondent peter baker, and former republican governor of ohio john kasich. kelly, first, what's happening exactly with the consumer financial protection bureau and fema? well. >> when you look at that agency in particular, it came into being after the financial crisis of 2008, and it was intended to be about rooting out schemes and fraud, not against the taxpayer, but against individual citizens. and since that time, it has done a lot of work in that area, claiming to have saved about $20 billion in fees and extra charges that financial institutions might have passed on to consumers. sort of the fine print part. and then, of course, fema, which manages natural disasters and so forth. both of these agencies have been targeted by the president's administration to be put either out of business or changed dramatically. and with respect

to the consumer protection bureau, this is something where the president and his allies have said there's been too much overreach, too much interference with the business community. again, their intention is to help consumers from paying undue fees and to be burdened by predatory practices. now, with fema, of course, musk is outraged that a payment was sent to cover some of the housing costs that are used with migrants being housed in new york city, and he reacted very strongly to that. now, we don't have independent confirmation if such a payment continued. he's claiming that that should have stopped. so this is musk and his team with the president's approval going through and trying to shut down various agencies that have very public facing intentions of helping with disasters or helping to keep people healthy in their business dealings as consumers.

and musk is saying that there is just too much spending on these and he wants to curtail them. >> ryan explain the democrats new tactic to try to counter doge with this new rapid response task force. >> yeah, and i think there's been a feeling amongst democrats that their response has been a little scattershot, a little all over the place and not coordinated enough to have an effective pushback on what they feel is trump's attempt to really push the limits of his executive power. and so we're seeing play out today in both the house and the senate, a more crystallization as to how they want to push back and to make sure that everyone is working from the same playbook. on the democratic side, the house leader, hakeem jeffries, is putting together a rapid response task force that's going to be headed up by some of the key committees that are involved in oversight of the federal government. they're part of that effort is going to be to streamline any legal challenges that could possibly come up. as

trump continues this effort to reshape the federal government. on the senate side, chuck schumer doing a very similar exercise and doing it also not just on the legal front, but also employing whatever legislative and public facing efforts that they can to rein this in. and this could become a crystallized effort by democrats within the next month. and that's when the deadline is approaching for the government to be funded. and it could be an opportunity for democrats to exert their will in a way that they haven't been able to do up until this point to the administration. listen to what senator andy kim of new jersey told our kristen welker about this over the weekend. >> if we have to take steps to be able to hold them accountable, use the leverage that we have to force it. i cannot support efforts that will continue this lawlessness that we're seeing when it comes to this administration's actions, and for us to be able to support government funding in that way, only for them to turn it around to dismantle the government, that is not something that should be allowed.

>> so what does this mean? there's no way that the government continue can be can continue to be funded after that march 14th deadline, unless democrats are involved in one way, shape or form, they would need at least 60 votes in the senate. not to mention what it would require in the house if even a couple of republicans broke away. so what democrats are saying here is that if you're going to continue this march to undoing a lot of the things that congress had previously signed into law, well, then we're not going to facilitate you continuing to keep the government open. now, this could put them in a situation where the government does shut down, and then there will be blame to go around as a result of it. but democrats feel at this point, ana, it's one of their only options to try and stop this march that trump and musk are on. >> peter, do you think it will come to that, leveraging the government funding, even if it leads to a government shutdown? >> well. >> it would put the. democrats in kind of an odd. >> position because traditionally. >> over the. >> last couple of decades, the party that has. most been willing to flirt with and even

precipitate government shutdowns has been the republican side. the republicans haven't always paid a price for it, because a lot of their constituents don't particularly like government, and are perfectly happy to see it shut down for a little while. or happy at least to say, see the tactics of hardball being used. that's not necessarily the case on the democratic side, and it's not something that they have traditionally been willing to use as leverage in a fight like this, but they also have very little option at this point from their point of view, because they don't have other tools. in a moment when republicans control both houses of congress and the presidency and in fact, arguably the supreme court. so this is one way they can get attention. and as ryan said, i mean, the majorities are so narrow in the house and the senate, even aside from the filibuster rule, that it would be hard for them to pass anything without democratic support. and i think that this is the one moment they can take advantage of that and say, you have to deal with us. >> governor kasich, just looking at all the changes that have been taking place, the involvement of elon musk in

seemingly everything, really no pushback coming from republican lawmakers. can you imagine what gop lawmakers would be doing if it were a democratic administration taking these same actions? >> well. >> i. >> think. >> the democrat. >> administration would be trying to. >> expand the government. >> to be honest with you and ana. >> look. >> no, but what would republicans be doing if these exact same things were happening with the democratic administration? >> well. >> i don't think. >> it would. >> be happening. >> because i have. >> not seen the democrats. >> have any interest. >> in being able to go in and. >> make the government. >> more efficient. to be honest. >> with you, republicans, be going along with it. >> well, no. >> they wouldn't. >> be going along. >> with it. they'd be saying, we don't want to have a look. >> we just. >> had an election. >> you know. >> donald trump. >> won the election. >> kamala harris lost. >> all the important battleground states. there was a. >> poll that. >> just came out over this weekend that. >> shows trump's approval rating 53%. >> see, i mean. >> there is. >> a disconnect here. >> people generally. >> feel whether. >> they're republican.

>> or democrat. i talked to a lot. >> of people out. >> here about this. >> they just. >> want. >> the government to be made more efficient. now, i don't. like the way that the that the republicans and musk is coming from the outside in and just shaking everything up and doing things that he doesn't understand all the implications of. but the american people are saying, we want a federal government that is far more efficient and far more effective, and that's what they're saying. and so if the democrats are going to say, no, we don't really want that. and look, a lot of these decisions will be made by the courts. they are the ones that are going to decide what is the president have the authority to do and what are the what is it the president can't do? so you've got the courts that will be involved. so what i'm suggesting to you is if democrats just say we don't like this, we like the status quo, then they haven't learned anything. they ought to be offering something that makes the government more efficient, more effective, more responsive. and they ought to be focusing on what's going to cause economic growth with trump right now,

with the tariff threats, all the chaos that we're seeing in the federal government, it creates a more unstable atmosphere. job creators don't like unstable atmospheres. they want some stability. so if you take the tariffs of the ones that just got announced today and you take all this, there's a problem here. but right now people are saying keep, keep going about this and shake that government up. >> no, i hear what you're saying when it comes to what the polling is showing right now. but still, i'm coming back to how the republican party is reacting. when you have a billionaire and elon musk, who has. >> no they're. >> laying. up there laying i mean, there's myriad of conflicts of interest to with him being involved in all these different areas. you would think that republicans wouldn't be okay with that. i'm just wondering if there's a threshold for them to eventually say this isn't okay. i don't know. we might have lost governor kasich, or maybe he just wanted to let

that one sit. i'm here. >> i'm here. i didn't hear the question. >> that's okay. >> i think. do i think that? yeah, i'll tell you where i think there's going to be an issue. i think the republicans are not going to like the change in the pentagon. now, i actually work with a company that's trying to make the subcontractors and contractors at the pentagon more efficient. i can tell you, ana, i served there. i was on the armed services committee, and i know how much waste, abuse, duplication goes on inside that building. there is plenty of room for reform across everything. but when you start messing with the pentagon, then you're going to get republicans saying, oh, well, you're going too far, because a lot of those programs are in their districts. the fact is, anything that goes under the review ought to include everything, and particularly the pentagon as well. >> okay. we got to leave it there. i know peter baker. you're coming back. kelly o'donnell, ryan nobles, john kasich, thank you very much for the conversation. coming up, the trump agenda moves to courtrooms across the country as the vice president rails against judges

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but the judge hit pause on this effort. the deadline to take the offer was extended until midnight tonight. now, over the weekend, musk and the president had another legal setback when doge was temporarily blocked from accessing the treasury department sensitive payment system. that showdown from the courts prompted vice president jd vance, who has a law degree from yale, to question the power of the judicial branch over the president and the executive branch, claiming, quote, judges aren't allowed to control the executive's legitimate power. now, president trump, also reacting to the legal setbacks yesterday aboard air force one. >> when a president can't look for fraud and waste and abuse, we don't have a country anymore. no judge should be. no judge should, frankly, be allowed to make that kind of a decision. it's a disgrace. >> joining us now, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, atlantic staff writer ashley parker and former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade. ken, on this federal buyout offer, could the

judge block them permanently today? and what happens to those folks who already took the offer? >> that's a great question, ana. could the judge block this permanently? well, nothing is permanent in terms of a district judge because of course, the trump administration likely would appeal that ruling to a higher court. but absolutely, the judge could block this today. and if he does, that really does leave these 60,000 or so people who signed up for this buyout in limbo and arguably puts a target on their back because they've communicated to the trump administration they no longer want to work in government. the issue here, the legal issue here, is the question of does this amount to the government spend spending money without congressional appropriation because they're offering essentially eight months of pay without work to a whole group of federal employees? and by the way, the number of takers has been much lower than the 5 to 10% of the workforce that they were hoping for, in part because a lot of people have said, look, there are no guarantees under this. and when you sign up for it, you also agree not to sue the trump administration to

enforce it. so there's a lot of questions surrounding this. and perhaps the federal judge today will answer some of them, but it won't be the last word on it. >> and barbara, i read part of that jd vance tweet or post, if you will, earlier saying judges aren't allowed to control the executive's legitimate power. here he was in 2021 with what he called advice for president trump. >> fire every. >> single mid-level bureaucrat. >> every civil. >> servant in the administrativ. >> state, replace them with our people. >> and when the. >> courts. >> because you will get taken to court. and when the courts stop, you stand before the country like andrew jackson did and say the chief justice has made his ruling. now let him enforce it. >> barbara, the administration has been blocked or slowed down on slashing the federal workforce, on accessing the treasury payment system. also birthright citizenship. also some anti-trans efforts. can they just defy the courts as the vice president seems to be suggesting there, especially if

congress doesn't step in? >> it would be an absolute violation. >> of the constitution. >> as jd vance well knows, since the case of. >> marbury versus. >> madison in the. founding era of. >> our country. >> it has been the. role of courts to. >> interpret the law. >> a president can do many, many things and. >> has great. >> powers, but. >> a. >> president cannot violate statutes or. >> the constitution. >> and so that's what these lawsuits are arguing. it isn't. >> so much what. >> donald trump wants to do, but how he is. >> doing it in. >> violation of constitutional rights and federal statutes. and that's where this comment becomes so concerning, because what jd vance said in that clip is that if the courts stop donald. >> trump. >> well, what are you going to do about it if we just do it anyway? of course, the answer is that a president who acts in violation of the law is subject to impeachment, but that relies on a congress that is willing to

hold him accountable and to do their duty in that part of the separation of powers. >> ashley, you covered president trump in his first term. how much of a change is this when it comes to his attitude towards the courts? do you see the, you know, potential defiance here as a result of the legal battles that he's waged over the last few years out of office? >> it's a. tremendous change, in part because. >> when you. >> talk to people close. >> to trump. >> who. >> work for him. >> they say. >> that this time he is coming back. >> more confident. >> more comfortable. >> in his own. skin is a very specific phrase. >> i've heard a few times. more emboldened, he knows what he wants to. >> do. >> and he's willing to push the boundaries of what. >> congress is. >> willing. >> to do to. >> stop him, what the. courts are willing and able to do to stop him. and in those comments, you played from both the president and his vice president, you sort of see them. and trump is as much a master of messaging, certainly, as he is of actual policy. but you see them laying the groundwork, at least to try to do what they are

very clearly signaling. they're going to do that if they don't like a court decision, they will potentially just ignore it. the last thing on the courts, of course, is as things get appealed, not all of them, but a number of them potentially could go up to the supreme court, where in his first term, trump played a very active role in remaking that court, appointing three conservative justices to it, referring to them as my justices. and he very much believes, even though it's not always borne out, that they will rule, not the way a supreme court should, but in favor of what he wants politically can. >> the justice department also fired a number of federal prosecutors involved in prosecuting president trump before he was reelected. also, several top fbi officials have been booted. do we expect legal challenges there? >> i'm glad you raised that, ana, because it's almost like we've forgotten about this. this was a huge deal that the firing of prosecutors, simply because they worked on cases that the

president didn't like, and we haven't seen any legal challenges yet. a number of them just decided to retire because they were eligible for retirement, both fbi agents and prosecutors. but we do expect legal challenges. many of them have hired lawyers and most legal experts who look at this say that they will win. they were fired illegally. they are civil servants. they had a right to due process, and they weren't granted that due process. will that bring back their careers? no, it will not. they're gone from these places. they've lost their clearances. they're they're away. but they may end up getting back pay and their reputations partially restored. but that will be a long time from now. unfortunately, that's the trump administration knows that that even when people win and get remedies, it takes a while to go through the process on it. >> ashley, i got to ask you about this scoop you have about president trump purging some members of the kennedy center board and making himself the chair. what is that all about? >> so this is something we broke last week right before a couple hours before the president truthed it. i see you have that truth up there, but that's about

the first time donald trump, his first term, he came to washington, sort of the artist. and, you know, culture, you know, with a capital c culture, embarrassed him. they threatened to boycott the kennedy center honors, some of them if he came. others said they would go and be honored, but they would not go to the white house for the reception that goes along with it. that traditional reception. there was a presidential arts board, arts and humanities, where all of the members resigned in the wake of his comments after what happened in charlottesville. and this time, as it was explained to us, he made a decision that basically said, you know, to heck with it. i'm not going to stay away from the kennedy center just because these artists don't like me. and in fact, i'm going to very visibly remake it in my image. so that meant purging these board members. it's a bipartisan board. so some of them were appointed most recently by president biden, purging those people who were clear democrats, biden allies, restoring himself

or appointing himself as the chair. and one thing he did cite in that truth post is he said, you know, look, the kennedy center put on a drag show performance. that's not what, you know, in line with our make america great vision. and so this is another way he is looking for, as his aides have told me, ways really pushes anti dei and woke messaging across the government and of course culture and sort of as he himself described it, a crown jewel of the nation that sits right in washington, like the kennedy center. to use that to make such a public point is another part of making clear that he is acting on his agenda. >> well, it's a whirlwind to try to keep up with it all. thank you so much. ashley parker, ken dilanian, and barbara mcquade. appreciate the conversation. next. what a new wave of trump administration tariffs could mean for you. plus, why you might want to hang on to those loose pennies that are lying around your house.

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official now what more do we know? >> no, i mean, we still need to get more details on this. again, what you just heard from the president was a conversation that happened yesterday suggesting that these tariffs would be in place today, but we still haven't seen any sort of official text on, on any sort of declaration. but i want to point out that these types of tariffs would be most impactful on the two countries, which we thought we avoided a tariff war with just a few weeks ago, which was mexico and canada, which again, now, march 1st is kind of the new deadline for trying to get something done. but when it comes to steel tariffs, the these are the two major countries that import into the united states. when you talk about canada accounting for about 23% of all steel imports into the us, and then mexico is the second next biggest importer at 11%. so these account for these nations account for an enormous amount of steel in the united states. and aluminum can't be forgotten as part of this conversation as well. yes, it is indeed the case that from a consumer level, maybe steel beams aren't s that we buy on a daily basis, but aluminum is in a lot of consumer packaging. think about your soda

cans, which of course are made of aluminum, in which case a higher aluminum cost to bring it into the united states could get passed on to the consumer as well. >> and then china had these counter tariffs on several u.s. products going into effect today. what's the impact of that. >> yeah. yeah. and we have to recall that last week china said that they would be slapping a 15% retaliatory tariff on coal and liquefied natural gas, in addition to a 10% tariff on crude oil going to the rather coming into china. so this is indeed a big deal when it comes to american energy being a major export to other countries. there are also some big tech implications to this as well. with china announcing an investigation into google. so there's a number of kind of retaliatory elements to the tariff conversation from the white house. but we have to remember that the white house is also firing back now, because in addition to the steel and aluminum tariffs, there are also these reciprocity tariffs that that the president is floating, in which case, any sort of tariff that another country puts on the united states, the united states would put on them. but

also the case that we don't have any sort of specific text on that. >> it's always about the details, brian. president trump also saying he's now directed the treasury department to stop minting new pennies, citing the cost. how much would this really save? >> yeah, and this is a really interesting one, because i have to point out that this could be a bipartisan thing. in fact, the last time that we heard of a president mulling over the concept of perhaps eliminating the penny, it was during the obama administration. so this is not necessarily a republican versus democrat thing. and when it comes to the us mint, which makes the pennies, they themselves report that it costs them about $0.03, a little over $0.03 to make a penny. so it costs the government more money to make the penny than the actual value of the penny itself. that's one reason why we've heard these calls to eliminate the penny. how you actually do that? unclear. the president just said on truth social he wanted to do this with this. require an act of congress. there's kind of some legal legal questions here. but again, maybe it seems like the president is intent this time around on eliminating the penny because it costs a prett penny. >> we appreciate your $0.02, brian chung. thank you, my

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accessing the treasury department's payment and data system. that order on saturday came in response to a lawsuit filed by the attorneys general of 19 different states, charging that president trump breached constitutional protections when he gave musk access to sensitive government systems. now, in a separate lawsuit, attorneys general from 22 states are taking the trump administration to court over its pause on federal assistance allocated to those states and yet another coalition of 21 ags are also challenging the trump administration's plan to use buyouts to push out federal workers. joining us now is colorado attorney general phil weiser. he is just the latest to join that lawsuit against the buyouts for federal employees. he's also a democratic candidate for governor in colorado in 2026. first of all, hello and thank you for being with us. say hello to my family there in colorado. that's my home state. i know just today, attorney general, the colorado joined

another lawsuit filed in massachusetts. and so now you're among 22 attorneys general suing the trump administration for defunding medical and public health innovation research. again, that's just the very latest. and we just ticked through all kinds of lawsuits that are pouring in by attorneys general like yourself. how are you picking which actions to challenge right now? >> i mean, this. >> is an important point. i often use the metaphor finding the signal through the noise. there's a lot of noise happening, and our job is to stay focused and ask crucial questions. which actions are causing real harm? which actions are illegal? some actions that are being discussed. ending producing the. >> penny have been. >> bipartisan proposals that. aren't necessarily going. >> to generate lawsuits. >> but other actions like. cutting biomedical research that. >> we depend on, happening. >> literally over a. >> weekend with no notice.

>> with no. >> reflection, and with no justification that's going to harm research here in colorado to critical diseases and the innovation that we depend on. we're going to challenge that in court, and we're going to defend the rule of law. >> trump, of course, is known to appeal, appeal, appeal. do you expect any lawsuit that you bring up to end at the supreme court? >> we've been through this before. in the first trump administration. >> we had. >> cases, for example, involving the census where there was an effort to intimidate families with immigrants. we had a case involving the dreamers. they went to the supreme court, and the supreme court ruled in our favor against the trump administration. we're well aware that could happen again. whether it's the birthright citizenship case or one of the other cases that we're bringing, we're going to make sure we defend our states, defend the rule of law. and if that means all the way to the supreme court, so be it. >> i mean, when you talk about the supreme court, it has changed since some of those other earlier cases you

mentioned during the first trump administration. this is the same supreme court that gave president trump broad immunity when it comes to actions he takes in office. and we heard from the president vice president in an earlier segment today challenging the authority of the court. so just how confident are you that judges will look at these cases without fear or favor, especially given the reactions that are coming out now from the white house? >> the initial results that are in three cases we've brought making clear the law was violated. in three cases, judges have entered orders saying the law was violated. i remain a believer in the rule of law. i recognize that in politics, people can say whatever they want and they can intimidate others. but in a court of law, evidence is considered under oath. legal standards are evaluated rigorously, and judges are ruling on the merits. so it's critical we preserve that foundation of our democratic republic. and as colorado's

attorney general, that is my focus and will continue to be what i am working hard on even during these challenging times. >> have you thought about what happens if the administration defies these rulings? then what? >> i'd offer three points on it that are likely to come in that scenario. first, any official who thinks it's a good idea to disregard what a court orders might look at the story of rudy giuliani, who has lost his law license, has lost all his possessions, and whose actions that sacrificed his integrity came at great personal cost. it will not be costless for people who decide to disregard the rule of law. number two, for republicans in congress who are asking the question, when might they act as a check on the executive branch, this will be a do or die moment. we only have a republic. as ben franklin said when he left the constitutional convention. if we can keep it, the way we keep a republic is being a nation under laws living

under the rule of law, not the rule of whim, of whoever the president is saying the law doesn't apply. and then finally, the american people believe in a constitutional republic and the american people and we, the people's voice, will need to be heard. we are aware at this moment your warning could happen. we've not seen it for 200 or so years. when harry truman was told, you can't cease the steel mills by the supreme court, he complied. that's what this president needs to do as well. >> attorney general weiser, what is your message to the american people who actually don't mind what musk and president trump are doing right now? >> my message is, if we give up the rule of law and if presidents can operate outside the law without a legal justification, then we lose. being a democratic republic, it is important that what happens, and there are lots of good ideas that might be out there, but they've got to happen the right way. this latest issue where we're suing cuts to medical

funding, it's because it happened the wrong way. the idea that our constitution commits to is an idea of due process of law, that everyone has a chance to be heard from before decisions affecting them are made. that's about basic fairness. i want to make sure our government remains a government of laws, and that we operate in a fair way. to be sure, the executive branch may have lots of great initiatives. they've just got to do them the right way. >> colorado attorney general phil weiser, thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you. >> up next, growing international criticism towards president trump's plan to buy gaza while israel prepares to discuss the next phase of the discuss the next phase of the ceasefire if you have generalized myasthenia gravis, picture what life could look like with vyvgart hytrulo, a subcutaneous injection that takes about 30 to 90 seconds. for one thing, could it mean more time for you? vyvgart hytrulo can improve daily abilities and reduce muscle weakness with a treatment plan that's personalized to you.

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future. would the palestinians know big money returned? no, they wouldn't, because they're going to have much better housing. >> nbc's yasmin vossoughian is live in tel aviv. also back with us, peter baker. so, yasmin, what's the latest on the hostages? and this pause signaled by hamas? >> yeah, we have a lot going on here in the last kind of hour or so. so let me kind of give you the reasoning as to what we learned from the al-qassam brigade, the spokesperson, the military arm for the hamas, saying essentially that there was repeated shelling and shooting inside gaza, which should not have been happening because the cease fire deal, there was three palestinians that were killed near gaza city who were approaching, as the idf said, the border. there was a woman who was killed near khan younis as well. they said enough palestinians were not allowed to cross the netzarim corridor from the south to the north, and the time in which the cease fire has been in place. and then they talked about humanitarian aid, which we have heard repeatedly from hamas throughout the cease fire. they have not gotten

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>> president trump is a builder. >> he's a deal maker. in chief, and he. understands that. >> this is just it just. >> doesn't make sense. so for anyone. >> the media. >> included, that doesn't like what he is proposing come to us with a better plan. >> peter, what do you make of that? and are there any other proposals out there at this point? >> well, there aren't a lot of viable options at this point. i mean, that part of it is not wrong. i mean, there's no clearly appetizing or appealing a proposal that all the parties in the region would agree to. and so that's sort of been the defense that a lot of trump allies are using. well, you know, he's thinking outside the box. everything we've tried so far doesn't work. why shouldn't we be creative? well, there's a lot of reasons why being creative might not work in this circumstance, at least as trump is outlining it. the idea that israel is going to clear out all 2 million palestinians and then hand over the property to trump for rebuilding, that wouldn't require any u.s. troops. it

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philly sports fans are known to get a little rowdy after big games. what do we know about how the city plans to mark this victory? >> so the city is going to be celebrating with a parade. we found out about an hour or two ago on a on broad street where i'm standing this friday. so start the countdown clock right now. you heard how low key super bowl mvp jalen hurts was when he was describing this dream that just became a reality. the city of philadelphia last night was anything but low key. it was chaos, in a word, on the streets. hundreds of thousands of people. some were crying. seriously, many cheering, many of them a little bit inebriated. we watched as folks were climbing up on a dumpster. trucks. they were scaling the sides of buildings. they were on light poles. thankfully, nobody was injured. what transpired on the gridiron was shocking. the results of this game would not have been surprising one way or the other. it was basically viewed by vegas as a toss up, but the fact that the eagles came out and just smashed the

chiefs and their elite defense, they put up 24 points in the first half, were up 34 to nothing at one point. i mean, this game was never even in doubt. we spoke with some fans last night to get their vibes and understand what this championship, their second in seven years, means to philadelphia eagles fan base. here's what they told me. how fulfilling is this moment as an eagles fan? >> oh my god it's amazing. we blew out patrick mahomes. >> in your wildest dreams. >> that was my wildest dreams. that was my wildest dreams. >> so on of the chiefs have three super bowls in the last several years. the eagles now have two in the last seven. one more. they talked about starting their own dynasty. these guys are going to be even back to you. >> that eagles defense was something. sam brock thank you so much. that does it for us today chris jansing picks up right now. >> good day. >> i'm chris jansing live at

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