situation with mayor adams. clearly, the options have changed a lot with the decision by the court, because now we're told that if you follow my policies, you don't have to go on trial. that's a danger to everyone. you were in congress to say that nine months was too close to a primary. everybody in congress is running again. in nine months. you only serve two years. so i'm going to be meeting with a lot of them. and i speak at yale tonight. they said you were busy, so i'm going to fill in for you at yale political union tonight. >> yeah. >> all right. very good. well, they traded up, that's for sure. that does it for us this morning. ana cabrera picks up the coverage right now. thanks for watching. >> right now on ana cabrera reports. new warnings of a constitutional crisis just weeks into trump's second term. a series of judges pumping the brakes on president trump's

breakneck efforts to remake the federal government. but will his team try to defy those orders? plus, a big break for the mayor of the big apple. the justice department orders the corruption charges against eric adams to be dismissed after he cultivated a relationship with president trump. the rippling impacts across the country. and later fed chair jerome powell in the hot seat this hour. what will he say about pressure on the economy and from the white house? good morning. it is ten eastern, 7 a.m. pacific. i'm ana cabrera, reporting from new york. we start with the intensifying power struggle in washington. but it's not republicans versus democrats. it's the white house versus the courts. president trump's fast and furious actions to reshape and reduce the federal government now met with a series of court rulings, putting

barricades in the way. president trump, vp vance and others in the white house argue the judicial branch has no authority to limit executive power on these matters. well, now, one judge says the white house is already violating his order on the federal funding freeze. so will the trump administration comply with the courts, or will the president drive the nation full steam ahead into a constitutional crisis? let's get the latest reporting from nbc news white house correspondent aaron gilchrist. nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. aaron, what's the reaction inside the white house now that this judge is saying that they are violating a court order? >> well. >> ana, there hasn't been an official direct response to that particular case or that particular statement from the judge there. but we have seen these reactions from president trump himself and others in the administration to this, to this order. if you look at some of the truth social posts that the president wrote overnight.

there's one in which he says, now, certain activists and highly political judges want us to slow down or stop. and he goes on to say that losing momentum that he believes his administration has been able to gain over these three weeks or so in office would be detrimental to finding the truth. he said in that statement, and this comes after we heard from vice president vance over the weekend as well, in a post that he put on x, saying that judges aren't allowed to control the executive's legitimate power. and so that's raised some questions about whether he's suggesting that the trump administration might simply ignore some of the orders that are currently in place, or orders that might come down the road. right now. there's, i think, two ways that some people inside the white house, inside the administration are looking at things. there are some people who are saying that, yeah, we expected there to be court challenges, and it's something that they're going to be pushing back on through the court process. hopefully they think up to the supreme court in some cases. on the other side, there is frustration, ana, that the

courts are getting in the way of what the trump administration believes are part of its mandate to move forward quickly and to break things as as has been said. >> you mentioned frustration, but is there any expectation that this string of court losses will perhaps slow down the white house, or maybe shift their approach? >> so at this point, i think it's fair to say that things have been slowed down a bit. right? you have a few temporary orders in place that have stopped certain actions from being taken, at least explicitly taken, but it does seem as though the administration is still trying to move full speed ahead. we know that doge elon musk and his team are still in different departments, in different systems, trying to look for what the president has called waste, abuse and fraud. that has not stopped. and the administration seems to be continuing with those efforts by way of the executive orders that we continue to see president trump sign, including the, i think, 4 or 5 he signed yesterday, ana lisa. >> give us a sense of the scale

of all these court orders, the judges crying foul on a whole host of presidential actions and the speed with which this is happening. let's start with. >> the speed with which this is happening, because i can't recall in the period of time that i've been covering presidential administrations, at least with respect to the courts, seeing such a dizzying pace of court orders escalating every day. one of the things that i think we're seeing and we will see increasingly this should give some comfort, by the way, to people who want to see the rule of law stay in place is that the trump administration is escalating their own pushback to these court orders. so you saw yesterday, for example, they are trying to dissolve a temporary restraining order here in new york that prevents any political appointee from accessing the treasury payment system. that's the issue between doge and the treasury department. they are also overnight fighting back against a court order that prevents them from firing a man named hampton dellinger. he was

the head of the office of special counsel, not to be confused with the special counsels that we are traditionally used to thinking of. like jack smith, it's a government agency that oversees whistleblower complaints and also has a role to play in federal civil service employment disputes. but they are pushing back on that and saying, no, no, no, no, no, you can't even restore him for two days. we're going to appeal that immediately. so the fact that they are turning back to courts, though, should give. people comfort that instead of flouting these. court orders, they're doing what a litigant should do, which is using their appellate rights. >> and so how many times can they appeal? i mean, how quickly could this end up at the supreme court? all of these many, many cases? i think it's, you know, it's. >> a parlor game right now among legal experts to determine which of these disputes is going to happen before the supreme court. first, i. >> think we're. >> not talking about a matter of days, but when i talk to people in the legal community about. >> how quickly. >> will we see this go to the supreme court, i think we're thinking in the realm of 2 to 3 weeks and perhaps a little bit

sooner, that something in this domain will escalate to a point where the supreme court's involvement is sought. >> and you're talking about weeks, not months, which oftentimes it feels like justice moves slowly. ken, as all these court fights play out, trump is wiping the slate clean on a pair of corruption cases, pardoning convicted former governor rod blagojevich and effectively erasing the case against new york's mayor, eric adams. take us through those moves. >> so the pardon of blagojevich is consistent with things that donald trump has done in the past. he actually commuted blagojevich's sentence the last time blagojevich was serving 14 years in a massive corruption case. so after eight years, he got out thanks to donald trump. now his conviction has been wiped clean. the action on eric adams, though, really takes us into uncharted waters and really is part of a process that's redefining the role of the justice department for the first time in the post watergate era, because what the acting attorney general said in his memo

ordering the prosecutors in new york. >> to. >> dismiss this case was that it was not based on the facts and the law and an assessment of the strength of the case. well, that's exactly what justice department decisions are supposed to be about. instead, what he said was there were concerns that the case had been an example of so-called weaponization, because the biden appointed u.s. attorney used the case to aggrandize his image. they were concerned about the timing. they were concerned that eric adams had lost his security clearance and so couldn't cooperate with immigration enforcement and other law enforcement operations in new york city. look, this is being greeted as a very as a monumental move by the doj and sort of opening the door to politically tainted decisions on criminal cases, which is not supposed to happen in the post-watergate era. but, you know, clearly you had eric adams currying favor with donald trump. and then now you have donald trump's justice department ordering line prosecutors to dismiss this

corruption case. >> and so how are those line prosecutors reacting? how is the rank and file seeing all of this? >> well, as you can imagine, there there are expressions of horror among the career prosecutors that we're talking to. this is not why they got into this business. the doj is supposed to be nonpolitical. and the prosecutors who made that case against eric adams, you know, a democrat and a democratic administration were nonpartisan actors, and as were the fbi agents. and there's no evidence that politics tainted that case whatsoever. and so there is a real concern here that this opens the door to essentially the doj prosecuting the people that donald trump doesn't like, and going easy on the people that donald trump does like. and that's not how the united states is supposed to work. >> lisa, quickly, if you will. i mean, s.d.n.y theoretically could not follow up and follow through on this order from above. is there any sign that there is appetite within the doj apparatus to push back and exercise its independence?

>> i don't know yet, but i think it's telling that this morning, despite all of the reporting that we've seen, including ken's very good reporting about the memo that emil bove, the acting deputy attorney general sent to the southern district, we haven't seen any entry on the docket asking to dismiss the case by the southern district prosecutors. and that puts acting u.s. attorney daniel sassoon of the southern district and a really tough spot, because she could make a big show of objecting to this and saying, look, my line. prosecutors stand by their charging decisions here. this was predicated on solid evidence of a crime that we felt needed to be redressed. but of course, if she does that, is she only going to be replaced by somebody else who's more than willing to do what the justice department asks? possibly. i think we've seen this movie a little bit before with jeffrey berman, who was an acting u.s. attorney in the southern district during the first trump administration. he forced the administration to fire him. we'll see if that will happen to daniel sassoon or whether she'll play ball. >> all right. lisa, aaron, ken, thank you all. joining us now is

mark zaid, founding legal partner of the organization whistleblower aid. mark, good to have you. here. we are hearing the phrase constitutional crisis. already less than a month into this presidency, the dean of the law school at uc berkeley telling the new york times, there have been so many unconstitutional and illegal actions in the first 18 days of the trump presidency. we've never seen anything like this, mark. other administrations have clashed with courts before. so how do you see it? is this a constitutional crisis or is it just heightened friction between these two branches? >> i mean. >> constitutional crisis may. >> be a little bit over the. >> top, but i think what we're seeing is we're we're on the verge of getting there. i've been saying to so many people that we're not even close to how bad it's going to be. it is going to get far, far worse. i've been litigating against trump and. >> his allies. >> for almost a decade now, and

the strategy that they are playing, as you just talked about in your first panel with. >> an. >> appeal of an. >> administrative stay. >> by a judge, which is a docket entry control mechanism that they have as they're hearing motions. they are playing out what they've done in the civil cases we've been litigating, particularly defamation of lawfare, that they have been they the maga crowd have been pushing towards those who criticize them. and their strategy is they appeal everything. they file every possible motion they can, whether it is borderline frivolous or at times frivolous. they've been sanctioned. many times over the over the course of the last few years. >> so what we're. >> going to get. >> and what i'm most fearful of, and it's already being discussed publicly by many people, is. when will that decision be by a federal judge that the president of the united states just says.

>> you? >> and what. >> army is going to enforce that? that then will be the real constitutional crisis? >> lisa rubin just talked about how this could move quickly to the supreme court in his year end report. just a few months ago, chief justice john roberts had a warning, writing for the past several decades, the decisions of the courts, popular or not, have been followed, and the nation has avoided the standoff that plagued the 1950s and the 1960s. within the past few years, however, elected officials from across the political spectrum have raised the specter of open disregard for federal court rulings. mark, where do you see this supreme court landing on the issue of trump and executive overreach as these lawsuits litigate all the way up? >> well, certainly, what we saw in the last half of the biden administration was that the supreme court was in no rush to address these issues, right.

what what saved donald trump were all the delays in the legal proceedings, including up at the supreme court. now, the supreme. >> court can. >> act very quickly. you know, people don't remember 50 plus years ago when the pentagon papers litigation, the supreme court, from the district court to the supreme court, and a ruling was literally in less than three weeks from start to finish. now, if the supreme court takes these cases up quickly now, that would be inconsistent with what we had seen, although in many ways that's a good thing. john roberts is probably going to be pivotal on this because of what the quote you just read. but the immunity decision, of course, is going to come back to haunt them because president trump has effectively been given, you know, an opportunity to do. whatever he wants without at least criminal penalty for official acts. so it may be that the supreme court or any judge is going to have to start holding in contempt or

sanctioning lower level officials beneath the president, who might not fall within that immunity ruling. again, starting to bring us into what would be a constitutional crisis of one branch pitted against the other in in a real war, not just a disagreement war. >> i mean, this could be a huge, huge test for our democratic system. before trump's inauguration. i mean, you saw this coming. you were advising clients who were potential targets to leave the country. you've already faced some retaliation in the form of your security clearance being revoked. do you think more retribution could be on the way? >> i have no doubt. absolutely no doubt. and you know, the adams case shows what the flip side is. trump doesn't really he doesn't look backwards too much. i mean, obviously there's a lot of retribution going on. but but understand also it's the people around him that are pushing much of this. nobody pays attention to sort of the man behind the curtain. it's not just trump.

there's so many people who have grudges against those of us who have been just fighting for the rule of law. but if you kiss his ring, if you do something that he likes, which whatever is going on with adams, then he will change his tune pretty quickly. now i have no i have no expectation, anticipation. i have no plan to do that. i'm going to continue to do what i do every year since the clinton administration, and that's hold a president and his administration accountable for illegal and unethical violations. i'm not talking about policy disputes. that's for everybody else to deal with. i deal with the legal issues, and we are not done seeing what retaliation we're going to face. the concerns that i was raising before inauguration, those some of them haven't manifested themselves yet. no one's been arrested or thrown into jail. and just wait for that, because i dare say that that's coming.

>> that is a scary thought. mark zaid, thank you for joining us. appreciate your insights and your perspective on all of this. we have some breaking news i want to get to now. a federal appeals court has formally granted the doj's request to drop charges against two of president trump's codefendants in his classified documents case. so this closes the chapter on the last case brought by jack smith's office. just ahead. more on trump's d.o.j. legal lifeline for new york city mayor eric adams. we will talk to former mayor bill de blasio on the message. this sends plus uncertainty for an already unstable region. president trump set to welcome the king of jordan at the white house this morning as he doubles down on his demand for the u.s. to own the gaza strip. and this hour? fed chair jerome powell in the hot seat on capitol hill just hours after sweeping new tariffs from president trump. we are from president trump. we are back in 90s. ♪♪ amazing. jerry, you've got to see this.

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brian. tariffs, inflation, the fed's independence all likely to come up here. what will you be watching for? >> yeah. and first off you might be seeing these images of jay powell in front of a big committee. i want to point out that this is not a confirmation hearing. jay powell has a term that won't end until 2026. so he is not there to try to pitch himself for a job or anything like that. he's just here to talk about the economy, and we just got some news breaks over what he is kind of telling the committee in written statements and he said, quote, with our policy stance now significantly less restrictive than it had been and the economy remaining strong, we do not need to be in a hurry to adjust our policy stance. so that's fed speak. the translation for that is basically the fed doesn't feel like it has to aggressively cut interest rates this year. and this is after we had seen the fed, made some make some cuts at the end of last year, kind of saying, all right, well, we had raised interest rates so aggressively to try to take inflation down. that has done a lot of the job of taking peak inflation lower. but the problem is that the more recent readings of inflation have been pretty sticky, hovering above their target of 2%. so for that reason, they say, you know what?

let's just kind of not cut interest rates any further. the problem is with these tariffs making up for uncertainty around the world in terms of what the global economy looks like. could that tilt the fed into some action later on down the line? i would expect that to be part of the questioning later on in this hearing. and we'll see. we'll see what the fed chair has to say. >> yeah. i wonder what he's going to say about these tariffs. ryan, this is powell's first hearing under the second trump administration. what are you hearing from senators heading into this meeting? what questions can we expect. >> yeah yeah i don't. >> think there's. >> any doubt anna, you and brian are right that tariffs will probably be a major topic amongst these senators. but of course jerome powell is famous for not making news or only making the news that he wants to make. so he often. doesn't give direct answers. >> to. many of. >> these questions. i think that one of the things to look for today is particularly the questioning from democrats about trump's unraveling of the regulation system in the united states. he's deregulating the crypto industry. he's deregulating agriculture. a lot of these other areas that are keys to the economy, and sometimes the markets like that,

sometimes the markets are concerned about that. and so it will be interesting to see if powell. >> has. >> a take on that, especially because elizabeth warren, of course, is the ranking member of the senate banking committee. she was also the architect of the consumer financial protection bureau, which trump is now systematically unraveling with the help of elon musk. so it. >> will be interesting to see if she presses. >> powell on her concerns about how that could impact consumers to not have that watchdog in place. but in general, i think the sense that you'll get from senators is just what is the overall health. >> of the. >> economy? what are the potential pitfalls that could come forward, and how should us federal policy address those coming pitfalls? of course, a lot of this may track back to the stability. >> overall of the united states. >> government right now and the degree of chaos and change that donald trump is bringing, and whether or not powell will have any opinion on the impact that could have on the economy. >> on it. okay. we'll keep monitoring that. but there's other movement on the hill as well. tulsi gabbard, the president's pick for director of national intelligence, cleared a major senate hurdle last night.

ryan, what happens next? >> yeah. >> well, she's cruising to confirmation on this, despite the fact that republicans seemed very concerned about the answers to some of her questions in that open confirmation hearing that she was a part of. democrats are doing everything they can to stand in the way of this, but of course, they just do not have the votes to stop it from happening completely. but they are using every procedural hurdle they have in their playbook right now, forcing a full 30 hours of debate on the gabbard nomination, meaning that she's tracking to be confirmed after midnight tomorrow morning. and unless they come to some sort of an agreement to speed that timeline up, it's likely it will happen in the middle of a snowstorm here in washington, d.c. but any sort of opposition that could potentially have cropped up from republicans seems to all have evaporated. all of them voted. to move this nomination. >> forward. >> and a couple. >> of the senators that. >> appear to be on the fence came out and said that they'll be voting for her. so at this point, every one of trump's nominees looks to be on track to

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free people, and an organized political opposition that represents fully half the country. so here we go. it's on. back to one of our top stories this morning, president trump's justice department. >> ordering federal prosecutors to drop the sweeping corruption case against new york city mayor eric adams. adams was indicted in september on charges of bribery and fraud. and we're joined now by his predecessor, former new york city mayor bill de blasio. mayor, great to have you here. so eric adams flew down to mar-a-lago. he was at trump's inauguration and now this. when you think back to your time in office during the first trump administration, i mean, how do you even compare these two? >> it's very different. look, i challenged donald trump from the beginning. i thought what he was trying to do was a huge affront to new york city and our values. i will also say there's times when he was still the president of united states. you had to deal with him. you had to try and find any common ground. or sometimes we needed washington to do something for us. so i

think for every mayor, every governor, striking that balance is crucial. the number one thing is defend your people, defend your city. call them like you see them. when the president's right, great. you can work one when he's wrong. take him on. so in this case, i think that has to be the way forward. and we can talk about this specific case and what happened. the most important thing is from this point on, this mayor needs to show that he will stand up for the people of new york city, regardless of what trump did for him. >> can new yorkers trust that he will stand up to this administration? if that is what's in the best interest of this city? >> you know what? there's a great phrase. don't tell me. show me. he has a chance to show people that he's doing that in the end. look what's happened in washington right now. the way the justice department is being subverted, the way our democratic process is being undermined. everyone should not only be deeply afraid, but we need to fight it. we need to not take it lying down. that said, you can look at any individual case on its merits. you know, i actually felt from literally from the beginning that the

indictment of mayor adams was flimsy. >> oh, really? >> yeah. no, i read the indictment early on. i did not see much there. i think a lot of people. >> so do you agree with this doj move? >> yeah. i actually think that charges were not strong enough. they were affecting the democratic process in new york city. we have a democratic primary for mayor in just over four months. this needed to be resolved one way or another. so i am actually comfortable that these were weak charges. i don't think they should have been brought, but i'm not comfortable, of course, with what's happening in washington, with the justice department. i'm not comfortable what donald trump is doing to our institutions and how he's undermining our democracy. and i think for eric adams now, the challenge is, okay, now you have a chance to focus on being mayor. you have a chance to talk to the people in new york city about what we need to do, including how we need to deal with the trump administration and show us that you're striking that balance. >> well, look, the reasoning behind ordering the charges to be dropped actually doesn't even say that the evidence wasn't

strong enough. i mean, emil bove, who's the acting number two at the justice department, lays out in this memo that doj officials did not evaluate the evidence of the case. instead, he argues that the indictment came too close to this year's mayoral primary in june and that it was hindering mayor adams ability to crack down on immigrants and to fight crime. what do you make of that justification? >> i think there's a profound flaw in that. i think they actually should have just said these charges are not strong enough. >> why wouldn't they? >> right now? i think they should. but at the same time, i can say from the experience of understanding what it does to a leader trying to run a place as difficult as new york city. if there's anything else hanging out there, it does undermine the ability to do the job day to day. also, the department of justice historically has said when it's close to an election, these matters need to be resolved one way or another so as not to be basically the doj stepping into a local election and determining the outcome. in

effect, i think it would have been better if they said, hey, we looked at the case, we don't find much here, or if they did find a lot, okay, then go forward. i don't love the way they worded it. >> bottom line what's the message then? what message does the chain of events again? you know, charges brought. mayor adams cozies up to trump. then trump justice department says drop the charges. what message does this send to other local and state officials across the country? >> look, i start with no one is above the law. and if someone has done something wrong, they should pay the consequences. so one of the things that's clear about donald trump, he's not believed that, right? he's fundamentally trying to take away the key lesson we learned from watergate. no one is above the law, and there has to be those consequences. but if in this case this was a weak case to begin with, this was a problematic case to begin with, we have to be able to see that too. we can't just say because of donald trump, we're going to lose all objectivity about the individual case. i don't think this case was ever going to be ever going to prevail, i really don't. >> the we've talked to other

legal analysts who would argue otherwise fair. >> but i'm telling you, my perspective, my perspective was this was weak. it was based on things that were not criminal. it was based on the actions of other people. i have a critique of mayor adams, and particularly i have a critique of a number of the people he put around him who i think were absolutely should never have been in government, should never have been in his team. i think he does have some explaining to do, to say the least, but i don't think he was worthy of this indictment. and now that it's been put aside, now he has a chance to actually show people what he's going to do for the city and make his case, and also how he's going to challenge trump when trump does something that hurts new york city. we'll see. it's a really straightforward mandate. he either answers that mandate or he doesn't. if he doesn't, the people of new york city won't accept that. >> former mayor bill de blasio, good to have you here. thank you. nice to see you. and more breaking news just in. president trump ally steve bannon has just agreed to plead guilty to a scheme to defraud and agreeing to a conditional discharge and waiving his right to appeal. he

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be on board with anything that goes forward. so certainly this meeting is integral to what takes place really in the next couple of days here with this fragile ceasefire. joanna, you've been. >> speaking with hostage families. what do they think of trump's warnings? yeah. >> it's complicated. i actually spoke with a mother of a hostage who is still in captivity inside gaza, and she has no idea if her 20 year old son is alive or, in fact, is dead. and i've been speaking to israelis here in hostage square as well. and i think that priority number one for all of these individuals is bringing these hostages home. but they also don't want to throw fuel to the fire. some of them telling me they feel as if the words of president trump yesterday evening, especially, are throwing fuel to the fire. others saying they feel like maybe this is in fact a negotiating tactic. and this is how you need to speak to an organization like hamas to make them do something, to make them act. let's take a listen to some of what i heard, anna, and then

we'll talk on the other side. >> it does scare me, but i want to put my faith that he knows what he's saying. he knows what he's doing. >> i don't think there is a real plan behind all this talking. basically, for me, it's disturbing. >> so we heard from a senior hamas official earlier today, anna, essentially saying that he felt as if president trump's words were making it more complicated that both sides need to abide by the cease fire deal, the way in which it was put in place. we also know prime minister benjamin netanyahu had convened an emergency security cabinet meeting this morning that is currently still ongoing. so, of course, this is a developing situation here in israel. anna. >> yeah. and this meeting next hour could be a critical a critical meeting moving forward. thank you. yasmin vossoughian. up next here in anna cabrera reports funding fight 22 states are suing the trump administration over efforts to

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heart treatments are on pause as a judge weighs complaints now brought by 22 states, a lawsuit claims the nih and the department of health and human services defied the will of congress with what scientists call draconian cuts. the trump administration says it will save $4 billion with this move, but that 4 billion covers research essentials like microscopes, computers, electricity to keep the labs running and staff to keep experiments sterile and organized. all 22 attorneys general who sued are democrats, but some republican senators, including susan collins, are expressing concerns. and joining us now, msnbc health contributor doctor vin gupta, a pulmonologist and global health expert. doctor gupta, thanks so much for being here. so these cuts are on hold right now, at least for now. but if allowed to proceed, what do doctors, what potential patients, what what do we stand to lose? >> well, anna. good morning. this this is really important

for everybody to understand the impact here. you know, a few studies have shown, for example, between 2010 and 2016, ana, that of the 210 fda approved drugs that were ultimately brought to market, all of them directly or indirectly were funded by nih funds. quite literally, every new medical innovation that went to a human body here in the united states had some form of nih funding, university led or otherwise. so this has a real impact, whether it's on the weight loss drugs, by the way, the new weight loss drugs we always talk about, those were the initial discoveries on those targets in the human body to develop those drugs or nih funded cancer chemotherapy. the latest innovations for breast cancer, alzheimer's, other disease categories, all nih funded. so this directly impacts bedside care. number one. number two, i've heard from colleagues across the country, those that have worked very hard to be physicians and scientists, researchers that are leading the

cutting edge. this is going to impact our workforce. people that decide to pursue these careers in the first place, and who decide to retain those careers and stay in them despite an already difficult funding environment. so make no mistake, this impacts patients around the country. >> and as we know, medical breakthroughs, they don't happen overnight. can you speak to the time it takes for some of this research to, you know, come to a conclusion where we do have a cure or a new treatment or all of the testing that needs to happen has been completed. >> yeah. you know, on a soup to nuts from just sort of initial ideation to getting a grant to seeing something through an fda approval that can take 10 to 15 much longer, even 20 years. and that's important because some of these innovations we just mentioned for high cholesterol, for weight loss, for chemotherapy, those are the things that are going into people's bodies as we speak. and those took that 15 to 20 year lead time. and so that let's

emphasize that. number two, let's also emphasize that there's tens of thousands of clinical trials happening as we speak, that if these indirect costs, which, by the way, fund the very infrastructure of these labs across the country, these are not just going in to some sort of random fund here. these fund the actual equipment and infrastructure to run these labs. suddenly these labs go dark. and i'll just say when we talk about economic return, many studies have shown that nih funding actually produces an economic return on about 25 to 40% year over year because of reducing the economic cost of illness, getting people healthy back into the workforce. so it's very narrow minded to think that these indirect costs here are somehow how a harm to society, actually they produce a much more productive, healthier society. >> i mean, we all have been touched by cancer or diabetes or heart disease in some way. there's dementia research. i mean, it really is across the board that theseacts cou be felt. and we all have

optimism right now about the future breakthroughs, the cures that could come down the pipe. and i want to just end with what you kind of started with that weight loss drug breakthrough. and entrepreneur mark cuban had pointed to an article this week that really struck me, just one advancement that we might not have if not for biomedical research funds. this was 20 years ago. a scientist curiosity about a venomous lizard called the gila monster paved the way for ozempic quote despite all the pharma in the world trying to develop a glp one like drug, this lizard venom peptide became the first approved treatment of type two diabetes in the world. so i'm just going to leave it there. doctor vin gupta, thank you so much for joining us and helping us really see the forest through the trees. appreciate it. up next here in ana cabrera reports the deadly moment caught on camera, a plane crashing on an arizona runway. we're live an arizona runway. we're live from scottsdale on the when emergency strikes, first responders rely on the latest technology.

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>> well, ana, they are still looking into what caused a left landing gear to malfunction. part of it was actually sitting on the runway behind me. we're going to zoom in just to show you this crash site. it's in the distance, so you may not be able to see much of it, but the plane to the left that belongs to motley crue frontman vince neil. this is the plane that veered off the runway, crashing into the larger plane to the right of it. his reps for neil says he, however, was not on board that plane. surveillance video capturing a runway disaster in real time as a lear jet heading from austin, texas, landing at scottsdale municipal airport veers off the runway, crashing into a larger gulfstream business jet parked nearby. >> expect to go around. we just had an emergency. >> the national transportation safety board already investigating. >> it appears that the left main gear failed upon landing, resulting in the accident. >> a large piece of that landing gear can be seen lying on the runway. authorities say five people were involved in the

crash. one person died. representatives for mötley crüe frontman vince neil say the private jet belonged to the singer, but he was not on board. the band sharing on social media. there were two pilots and two passengers on the plane, and in a now deleted post that neil's girlfriend and a friend both suffered non-life threatening injuries and were taken to local hospitals. poison frontman bret michaels, who has toured with mötley crüe, posting that his thoughts and prayers go to neil's girlfriend rain and all those injured, adding i was relieved to hear that my friend vince neil was not on board. the accident comes amid a string of unrelated aviation incidents in recent weeks. 67 people died in washington, dc, when an army helicopter slammed into an american airlines regional jet. a medevac jet crashed in northeast philadelphia, killing seven and ten people were killed this past friday in a commuter plane crash in icy, snowy conditions on approach to nome, alaska. aviation experts say flying in the u.s. is still extremely safe, and that these

devastating accidents should not be cause for panic. >> it's a combination of a coincidental rash of accidents, coupled with a huge, heightened sense of sensitivity on the public. >> now, this crash comes just weeks before motley crew is set to begin their residency in las vegas. and in a now deleted post, the crew posted that they will announce ways to help support the family of the person who died. ana. >> dana griffin, thank you for that reporting. and that does it for us today. i'll see you back here tomorrow. same time, same place. i'm ana cabrera, reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. >> good morning. 11 a.m. eastern, 8 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin with the brewing power struggle between the executive and the judicial branches of our government.