and it blew off her hand. no, i think what they're. i think they want time because i think the people that they have living are in such bad shape because they're sending the most healthy people out, because they don't want to send the least healthy people out. and there was an uproar when they saw the people from yesterday. so these people are so i don't want to do two, and then we do another two and another week, and then we do four and three weeks. no, no. they either have them out by saturday at 12:00 or all bets are off. >> mr. president. >> mr. president, would you still consider withholding aid to. >> those countries if they don't. >> accept your plans to accept? >> well, i don't want to say that because we've had such a good relationship and we're doing so well just in the short time that we've been talking. i mean, the king just made a statement. i didn't ask him to do that about literally saving

2000 young children from the gaza strip. we didn't know about that. you didn't know about that? nobody did. except for the king and his son. i assume you told your son, right? and i just thought it was great. no, i think we'll do something. i don't have to threaten with money. we do. we contribute a lot of money to jordan and to egypt, by the way. a lot to both. but i don't have to threaten that, i don't think. i think we're above that. i do believe we're above that. >> would you consider other countries, not jordan and egypt? there was talks about indonesia, albania, other places. >> yeah, sure. and we have other countries that want to get involved. we have a lot of people that want to get involved. there's a great sense of wanting to help the palestinians. they really there's a lot of good countries out there, people that rule those countries with big hearts. and this gentleman is at the top of the list. >> and if they don't want to

leave, how are you going to force him, mr. president? >> oh, they're going to be great. they're going to they're going to be very happy. >> can you, your majesty? >> your majesty, should we expect that the jordanian response would be part of a coordinated arab response? >> the response will be from a multitude of countries. arab, international. i know the europeans want to step in. and again, we'll probably have to look to the help of the united states to make sure that cogat, which is the clearing agency on the israeli side, makes it as efficient as possible because 2000 kids, the best way to get to them is by helicopters and get them straight to our institutions. and i also believe that quite a few countries would also probably like to take some of those kids and have them treated in their hospitals. so we. >> say yes, and that's right. this should have been done by the biden administration. but, you know, they didn't do anything. they didn't know what the hell they were doing. so this should have been done by the biden administration. this should have never happened, because october 7th would have never happened if i were president. zero chance of happening. you wouldn't have had that whole mess with the middle

east got blown up, and you wouldn't have had ukraine and russia fighting. that would have never happened. and by the way, we're making good progress there, i think. i really think we're making some very good progress. >> mr. president. >> you said before that. >> the us would buy gaza, and today you just said we're not going. >> to buy gaza. >> we're not going to have to buy we're going to we're going to have gaza. we don't have to buy. there's nothing to buy. we will have gaza. what does that mean? no reason to buy. there is nothing to buy. it's gaza. it's a war torn area. we're going to take it. we're going to hold it. we're going to cherish it. we're going to get it going eventually, where a lot of jobs are going to be created for the people in the middle east, it's going to be for the people in the middle east. but i think it can be a diamond. it can be an absolute tremendous asset for the middle east. and you're going to have peace. it's going to bring peace in the middle east, gaza, the way it is right now. every ten years, you're going to have the same thing

happening. i've watched it so long, all the death and destruction of gaza, the civilization has been wiped out in gaza. no, it's going to be a tremendous thing. it's fronting on the sea. it's going to be a great economic development job. it's going to put people to work, a lot of people to work. and those people are all going to be from the middle east. >> and. >> just to. >> follow up with one. >> on. >> that for king abdullah. can you clarify again, sir. >> how do you feel. >> about the. >> us taking. >> gaza, as the president said? >> well, again, this is something that we as arabs will be coming to, to the united states with something that we're going to talk about later to discuss all these options. >> mr. president, take it under what authority? it is sovereign. >> territory under the us authority. >> mr. president, would you. >> seek. >> to personally develop property in gaza after this happens? >> no, i've had a great career in real estate. >> mr. >> you know, when you've done what i've done in the last number of years, including the four years that we should have

been doing something else, frankly, because people see that now, for sure. but when you've done what i've done, you can just do more good for people. when you're president, when you're president, we can do things. this is all things that should have been done, but actually things that shouldn't have had to be done. gaza. absolutely. it would have been. it would have been so great if the biden administration would have started this. but actually, in all fairness to them, it was they should have never let it happen. it did happen. and because of the fact that they let this happen, this catastrophe of october 7th, something like this becomes practical and very real, meaning the development and all of the things that i've talked about with respect to the gaza strip, if you didn't have the october 7th catastrophe and it was a horrible catastrophe, then probably you wouldn't be talking about that. but the only thing i can say is this is going to

bring stability and peace to the middle east. and ultimately when it's developed, which will be in quite a while from now, because we want to let things calm down. but when it's developed, it's going to bring tremendous numbers of jobs to the middle east, including the people of your country. >> so what if. >> it does. >> not bring peace to the middle east? there are many palestinians. even though you say that everything is going to be beautiful, everything is going to be lovely. they're not going to want to go back. there are going to be people who want to go back and feel like that. it is their right to do that. you haven't said, well, there will be any type of repercussions or anything that happens. >> we don't think that's going to happen. we think it's going to we think people are going to be very happy, thrilled. a lot of those people that you're talking about are going to end up maybe living there and maybe working there, but it'll be in a different form. we have had tremendous support for this project, and we think the biggest asset of the project, it's going to bring peace ultimately to the middle east. all right. >> one last question.

>> go ahead. behind you. you've asked enough. >> mr. president, one of your promises on the campaign trail is to bring peace to the middle east. it was a promise to your voters. arab voters here, the arab voters in the united states oppose this. what do you say to that? >> well, you know, if you look at michigan, where we have a large arab population, as you know, i was just telling the king that we won. as you know, i won the arab population. and when i started off, i wasn't leading. and when i finished a few months later, we started campaigning in michigan. and when i finished, we won it by a tremendous amount, by 30 points. so my relationship with the arab population has been fantastic, and my relationship with the middle east is very good, very good. with all the countries, just about all the countries. let's see. i would say all the countries, and they all want to do something and they want to see peace in the middle east. all the stories you hear about the middle east not really wanting peace, that they want

war, they want this, they want to go to a certain place. let me tell you, those stories are false. they want to have peace. i know them all very well. they want to have peace. they want to have a good life like other people. and we'll bring this will be a big factor in bringing peace to the middle east. thank you very much. >> all right guys. >> thank you guys. let's go play prosecco. thank you. come on guys, quickly please. >> that is president trump. and you see a very. >> full. >> oval office ahead of a meeting with the king of jordan, who says he has agreed to take. >> in children. >> from gaza, sick children, people with cancer. as trump repeatedly pushes his plan for a us takeover of the gaza strip, that meeting comes just moments after israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu issued an ultimatum to hamas return all the remaining hostages by noon on saturday, or else the cease fire is over and the idf will resume fighting in gaza. >> that echoes. >> a threat made by president trump yesterday who vowed,

quote, all hell is going to break out if hamas doesn't comply with those same terms. talks between trump and the jordanian king. you could hear it in the way they. well, certainly the jordanian king carefully worded his answers. this is going to be difficult. trump has threatened to withhold aid if jordan doesn't take in palestinians from gaza so that he can pursue his plan for the us takeover of the strip. nbc's aaron gilchrist is reporting on this from washington, and marc polymeropoulos is an msnbc national security and intelligence analyst who served as the cia operations officer and manager in the middle east for years. aaron, that promise of taking in some children a in the thousands. but there are roughly 2 million people in gaza. so did we learn anything about how donald trump thinks this could possibly work. >> so that the how question is the. >> big question that. >> we've had, chris? and quite frankly. >> no, we didn't learn any more

about the how from what the president. said in this brief meeting he's held allowed cameras into in. >> the oval office. >> there with the jordanian king. >> and so. >> that's something that we're going to continue to press on. you did. >> as. >> you noted. >> see, the jordanian king. >> try to give very. >> measured responses. >> to the questions that he was asked about whether. >> there should. >> continue to. >> be a ceasefire in. >> gaza. >> whether there. >> should be. >> a way to, to help to move palestinians. >> into jordan and into egypt. and he simply said over and over again that. >> there would be. >> discussions, that it was something that was going to be discussed today, that they were waiting for additional proposals and details from the egyptians that would lead to more discussions. and so that really seems to be the posture of the jordanians in the past. in the last week or so, we know the jordanians have said the idea of displacing palestinians from the gaza strip into jordan is not something that they were willing to entertain, really, or other arab countries were willing to entertain. i want you to hear a little bit more of what the president had to say as it

relates to the cease fire that's currently in a tenuous position. as you noted, he he earlier this week said that he wanted to see all of the remaining hostages released by noon on saturday or that there would be all hell to pay. and you heard the israelis saying essentially the same thing. so here's a little more of what the president said about that. >> i think they want time, because i think the people that they have living are in such bad shape because they're sending the most healthy people out, because they don't want to send the least healthy people out. and there was an uproar when they saw the people from yesterday. so these people are so i don't want to do two, and then we do another two and another week, and then we do four and three weeks. no, no. they either have them out by saturday at 12:00 or all bets are off. >> now, hamas said to nbc news earlier today that it wanted the president to stop making threats and to try to help all the

parties honor the deal that had been agreed to through the efforts of both the biden administration and president trump's team prior to him taking office on january 20th. and so, chris, we have yet to see whether there will be an additional response from hamas to what we've heard today and to what we've now heard from the israelis and still not not worth letting this moment go by without acknowledging that the president said that the united states is going to have the gaza strip, that it's going to take it, that it doesn't need to buy it. there's nothing to buy. the president said. the jordanian king asked about that as well and didn't seem to agree wholeheartedly with what the president was saying on that. chris. >> yeah, understatement. thank you for that. aaron. so much to unpack. mark. let me start where we just left off there. reporters did try repeatedly to ask donald trump how this takeover of gaza would work. he said there's nothing to buy. there's no reason to buy. suggesting it's enough, he says, that we're going to cherish it and it will create a lot of jobs

and create peace. and displaced palestinians are going to love that. unpack that for us. >> where to begin? first of all, it's not the us land. it's the palestinians land. they live there. this is almost the us actually advocating ethnic cleansing. it's very bizarre. it's against all sorts of international law, certainly not what our arab allies. >> are. >> interested in. and frankly, it's embarrassing. i mean, i watched king abdullah sit there. he's got to, in essence. >> dance through the raindrops. >> i mean, this is a preposterous idea, one in which that would actually destabilize his own country. i think king abdullah was very smart to put forward this idea of sending or accepting 2000 gazans children in some way to placate trump. but there's so much more to this. and again, it's this is the idea of a us proposal that directly destabilizes one of our key allies, not only in the region. this is globally. the jordanians are an incredible partner, and what we're doing is

certainly not in their interest. >> we got a reaction just a short time ago from the hostage and missing families forum to what benjamin netanyahu said backing up the president. you know, either let all the hostages go by saturday or all hell is going to break loose. they say that we all witnessed this past saturday. time is running out for the hostages. the shocking events of recent days demonstrate the urgent need to accelerate the timeline, complete full negotiations immediately, and bring back every last hostage with utmost urgency. the president acknowledged that they looked emaciated, that they looked like, in his words, holocaust survivors. is there a way that you think going back to war helps the cause of getting them out? which includes, by the way, at this point, at least to americans still believed to be alive? >> well, to the contrary, in

fact, israeli intelligence this has been widely reported, has been warning netanyahu about the condition of the hostages. what trump and netanyahu did was just blow up their own hostage deal. i mean, the first phase was not complete. we were waiting. clearly, there were some issues. now they've accelerated the entire deal into end of phase two by saturday. and so it's a curious tactic, i think that there's no doubt that the visuals that israelis and of course, americans to what we saw with the hostages coming out was deeply disturbing. but first and foremost, let's understand that we've been warning about this. i've written about this, and certainly israeli intelligence has warned, too. it's going to be some pretty tough scenes we're going to see. but ultimately, i'm not sure how this threat, you know, which is to conclude by saturday, would, if they did go back to any kind of armed conflict, would would help the hostages. now, hopefully this is just a negotiating strategy, and we have a couple of days in which

hamas can respond and we can get things back on track. >> so it's so interesting to look and try to judge what's going through king abdullah's mind. right? trump says the us is above threats to pull back funding from countries that, you know, don't do what he wants them to do. in that very same sentence, he said, we give them a lot of money. the king, again, would not answer how he feels about a lot of the things that reporters were asking him. so take us inside this meeting and what you think it will be like. >> well, look, abdullah again has to be very careful here. the jordanians are reliant on us aid. absolutely. you have a mercurial president who's come up with this, a bit of an outlandish idea. so he's got to deliver something. but at the end of the day, i think president trump has to understand. i would imagine he has advisers telling him this, that jordan is a key ally. i mean, i will tell you, having served and lived in the region, the jordanian security services have helped save hundreds of us lives. even on the israeli side.

i can't imagine israeli security officials pleased with this idea of doing something that would inevitably destabilize jordan. because, remember, the jordanian air force came to israel's defense when iran attacked israel. so it's part of jordan, is part of israel's security umbrella. so all of this seems to be just this kind of rather extensive own goal. you know, going after our allies is not certainly the right policy. now, at the end of the day, if the jordanians can accept 2000 gazans, kids who come out, that's a that's a good thing. but the overall policy, the overall idea of ethnically cleansing gaza and not allowing palestinians to come back and having them all or hundreds of thousands go to jordan, that's a nonstarter for the jordanians, this will cause the overthrow of a key u.s. ally, and king abdullah can never accept that. >> marc polymeropoulos, aaron gilchrist, gentlemen, thank you. and coming up in 90s the d.o.j. power play how the justice department is justifying the move pushed by president trump

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than $100,000 in free plane tickets and upgrades, part of a broad pattern of alleged bribery and corruption going back years. adams, a democrat, has actively been courting trump, who said this back in december. >> i think that he was treated pretty unfairly. now, i haven't seen the gravity of it all, but it seems, you know, like being upgraded in an airplane many years ago, i'd say. i know probably everybody here has been upgraded, and that would mean you'll spend the rest of your life in prison. i don't know, somehow i would. i mean, i'd have to see it because i don't know the facts. >> in fact, a memo from the doj's acting number two, emil bove, expressly admits that the decision to order the fdny to drop the case was made without assessing the strength of evidence or the legal theories of the case. but the president's decision to intervene is just the latest administration attempt to wield his authority in unprecedented ways. after a judge blocked the administration's freeze on

federal funds, vice president jd vance tweeted, quote, judges aren't allowed to control the executive's legitimate power. i want to bring in nbc's ken dilanian at the justice department. harry litman is a former u.s. attorney, former deputy assistant attorney general and host of the talking feds podcast. with me here in studio is former florida republican congressman david jolly, who is also an msnbc political analyst. tell us more about this order, ken. >> well, chris, as you mentioned, they said it wasn't about the facts and the law, but they did say it was about what they believed was the weaponization of the justice department in bringing this case. and, you know, eric adams has been complaining that he got crosswise with the biden administration over immigration, and that's why they charge him. there's no evidence of that. but that sentiment was reflected in this memo. i want to read it to you. it says it cannot be ignored, that mayor adams criticized the prior administration's immigration policies before the charges were filed, and the former u.s. attorney's public actions created appearances of

impropriety. that's a reference to the biden appointed u.s. attorney damian williams. doj officials believe he used the case to burnish his image. that's debatable, but the what's alarming justice department officials here is the idea that the political leadership of the doj is ordering line prosecutors to drop a high profile political corruption case, for which they unveiled a massive amount of evidence in a speaking indictment. for his part, eric adams is continuing to proclaim his innocence, and he's sort of acting as if this is all over. let's take a listen to eric adams. >> as i said from the outset, i never broke the law and i never would. i thank the justice department for its honesty. now we can put this cruel episode behind us and focus entirely on the future of our city. it's time to move forward. >> so a couple of things about that. number one, the case hasn't been dismissed yet. this

is an order to the southern district of new york. as far as we know, nobody in that office has carried out that order. and it's going to be an interesting question to see whether anyone resigns rather than do that. the second thing, though, is that these charges are being dismissed without prejudice, according to the memo, or will be if that's what happens, meaning that they can be refiled at any time. so the idea that he's completely out of the woods is an open question. and another open question is how much leverage does that give donald trump and the trump administration over the mayor of new york when they are trying to, for example, more strictly enforce immigration laws in what has been a sanctuary city? chris. >> well, not a bad question, congressman. right. i mean, what does it mean we can reinstate these charges against you at any minute? >> it's a hostage situation. >> look. >> i think. >> there's a. >> lot. >> going on. >> i think people. >> are. >> right to feel that. it feels a little dirty. it feels. >> a. >> little transactional. it also. >> was very. >> obvious in its politics. >> even the. >> memo from doj said eric. >> adams needs to. >> focus on illegal immigration

and. >> fighting violent crime. >> with kind of a nod to the biden administration letting it. >> go unchecked. >> but then there. >> is this question about what. >> type of leverage, because it was dismissed. >> without prejudice. >> which means the charges. >> could come back. and listen. >> this is also. >> donald trump, who. >> faces. >> though largely at the state level. >> faces a lot. >> of his own. >> liability and vulnerability in the city and in the state. >> of new york. >> he, i believe, has his license to practice or be engaged. >> in. >> nonprofits has been revoked. we know the charges that have. >> happened at the state level. he has created an ally. >> and i think what this. >> also says. >> is not only is the trump. >> administration's doj now. >> transactional, but what are the opportunities for other elected officials facing peril? >> i mean, s.d.n.y. >> is somebody that's prosecuted. >> a lot. >> of cases. >> recently. >> political cases, including republicans and democrats. what does that mean in terms of. >> the. >> currency that donald trump now wields over them? >> harry, i think one of the extraordinary parts of this is that they didn't even try to argue the facts. the law here. what do you see when you read

this order? >> extraordinary isn't the word singular. >> and unique. >> is the word. >> the idea that they would. >> be doing this without any attention to the facts and the law. is absolute anathema to the department of justice, the currency of all cases are facts and law. the idea of not judging weaponization based on facts and law is again anathema to the department of justice. an alien force has invaded the department of justice and is imposing rank political. and, as david says, transactional considerations. and that completely corrupt and politicized the doj's function. this is really beyond any possible justification in department of justice annals dating back to all our lifetimes and before the department of justice acts on facts and law,

not on politics. and this is a really ugly day and a big black eye that won't that won't go away soon. >> a black eye that won't go away. what's the real world impact as you see it? >> harry two i think first, exactly as david said, open season for politicians to come in and make deals and get off scot free. it's such an important part of the doj mission. and then the harm enacted on all of us if the allegations are accurate. that's what juries are for, of course. and the and the s.d.n.y has just said that they had much more evidence than there are victims to these crimes and including clean government, corrupt, honest government. if there's open season now, that is off the table and everyone suffers, by the way, to ken's point, the acting u.s. attorney in manhattan is a long standing,

very credentialed pro. and we'll see whether she doesn't say, i'm going to resign now. so there could also be an immediate kind of political crisis. i'm sure she's thinking of it seriously. this is an absolute dishonorable order that she's been asked to execute. >> and, congressman, there's another memo. the washington post reported on this. it says that the president and his top officials are free to discuss ongoing criminal and civil cases with the attorney general and deputy, something past administrations, as you know, have explicitly shied away from. they don't want that appearance of any kind of political interference. is this a strategy of, we're going to tell you up front what we're doing? i mean, and this is this is the way it is. >> and it can be dressed up by the people around him. this advance of the unitary executive, that there are these powers in the presidency that other presidents haven't used before, but donald trump is using for the first time. i think that's all garbage. i am

unapologetic in suggesting we are in a constitutional crisis right now. we have seen it in violations of the impoundment act. we've seen in violations of elon musk and security information we're seeing in donald trump's use of the department of justice, the transactional nature of this. but the constitutional crisis is not simply because of the malfeasance of the presidents. it's because of the collapse of the congress, the crisis. we have seen malfeasance before. we have seen abuse by a president before. but a crisis did not occur because it was checked by the courts or checked by the congress. in this case, you have a congress that has collapsed, a republican congress who has said, we are going to let the president do these things. that has created the crisis. we should not be tepid about using that word. there is a constitutional crisis right now as a result of the malfeasance of donald trump. but the lack of accountability being exerted by the us congress. >> ken dilanian and harry litman, thank you both. david jolly, you're staying with me. up next, we're live in arizona with the investigation into a deadly collision between planes,

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operations officer marc polymeropoulos is back with me and former u.s. ambassador to russia michael mcfaul, who is an msnbc international analyst. erin, tell us about the circumstances surrounding fogle's release. >> so. >> chris, we're still trying to learn more about how exactly this all came to be. we know from the statement that was released from the national security adviser that it seems as though mark fogle is in the air now, along with steve witkoff, president biden. president trump's special envoy to the middle east, who has been empowered, obviously, to operate beyond the middle east. he, of course, we know, has spoken about some of the work that he's been doing as it relates to. sort of earning the freedom of americans around the country. and so now we've learned that today, this via this statement that the president's special envoy, steve witkoff, has secured the release and is leaving russian airspace with mark fogle. and the statement goes on to say that this was a negotiated exchange that serves

as a show of good faith from the russians, and a sign that we're moving in the right direction to end the brutal and terrible war in ukraine. we have questions about the exchange part of this. of course, we don't know what the u.s. gave to russia in exchange for mark fogel's freedom. you noted that he had been in russian custody for almost four years now, was arrested back in 2021 for bringing medical marijuana into russia and convicted there as well. we just had at the end of last year, the biden administration designated him as wrongfully detained. and now we're learning again that at least in the last several days, there have been discussions that eventually led to mark fogel's freedom. and now he's on his way back to the united states. the statement saying he should be on u.s. soil tonight. chris. >> aaron gilchrist, thank you so much for that, ambassador. you worked hard. you wanted to see your friend mr. fogel released. you know him. you know his family. i cannot imagine the relief that you and of course, a

lot of people who love him are feeling right now. tell us what you are feeling. >> hallelujah. >> fantastic news. praise be to donald. president donald trump. that's not a phrase i get to say. >> very often. >> i don't know the circumstances. i don't know the deal. we'll learn those later and i don't care. mark was in bad health. he was wrongfully detained for years. this is. an american patriot. this is a fantastic human being. he was a teacher to one of my sons. he was an integral member of our community in moscow when i lived there. and this is just fantastic news for anybody who cares about patriotic americans. >> i think you once put it, this is not just some random guy who got arrested. he a lot of people will remember the case of brittney griner. there were very similar circumstances that they were found with very small amounts of cannabis, of marijuana. he could have faced

14 years in prison. did that seem like a very real possibility? after brittney griner was released fairly quickly? >> of course it did. to his family, to his kids. there was little hope when he was not released from brittney was they finally got the designation that you just mentioned at the end of the biden administration. but but it's just very difficult when you're dealing with putin and putin's russia, where there is no rule of law, there are no procedures. everything depends on on deals like this. and again, you know, we need to know the details. we need to know what happened. but there was not a lot of hope among people that knew. mark, this is a great, great day. and i really want to emphasize one thing that i think people forget about people like mark fogel. these are the people that teach our sons and daughters of diplomats, of military officers that serve our

embassies, and we can't leave these people behind. and i'm just deeply grateful for the trump administration for mark's release today. >> yeah, nearly four years, 293 days, by the way, for brittney griner, for both of them, absolutely no reason for them to have been taken into custody. mark, are you surprised at how this has come together? it seems to be quickly. less than a month after donald trump took office. >> well, i think many of us who follow kind of the open source world saw private jet travel to moscow. so something certainly was up. but let me just before i answer your question, chris, one quick thing. when this news broke several minutes ago, the first person i actually thought of was ambassador mcfaul, because i remember him saying that that fogle actually was his teacher at an international school. and as someone who, you know, i similarly had my kids go to schools and i saw teachers like this and they are true heroes. and so this is this

really is a day of joy. i think one of the things we do have to find out the details is, you know, what did the united states, if anything, do in exchange? you know, the russians don't do these things just for free. there's something more to this. and, you know, the idea that perhaps this is a goodwill gesture for future negotiations on ukraine, i think we do have to take some pause. look, in the biden administration, when these exchanges occurred, many of us scrutinize the details of this. you know, who is exchanged on each side. i think it's fair to do that again now. but as ambassador mcfaul says, the first kind of reaction to this is just joy for an american who's going to come home to his family. >> can you just dig a little deeper, if you will, ambassador? because you don't go into this line of work to get rich. you don't go into this line of work because it's easy, and you don't go into this line of work. i'm presuming, depending on the posting for the creature comforts. so what is it about someone like a marc fogel that

you think puts them in a situation where they want to teach your kids, where they want to teach a military, a member of the us military's kids. >> it's just a commitment to learning. that's what i learned from marc. you know, marc taught my oldest son history. he wrote letters of recommendation for my son. my son went to stanford university because of marc fogel. and he instilled in my son. i can just speak personally, but i know it's true for many because i've been in touch with many of his former students since his arrest. he was just an incredibly enthusiastic teacher that that, you know, it's tough to go to school in moscow, by the way, for kids, even for the ambassador's kids. it's a hard place. you spend an hour in a car, two hours back in traffic, going out to where marc taught. and yet his classroom was known as a place of joy about learning. but it's more than

that. he was part of our community. our kids played basketball together. we were in uncle sam's bar watching the americans beat the russians during the sochi olympic games. these are the kinds of people that our communities abroad absolutely depend on. and you are right, you don't go to teach at the anglo-american school in moscow to get rich. you do it because you're committed to learning, and you're committed to the american people that are living there. >> none of us, mark, can know what this is like for a marc fogel, for a brittney griner. although she did talk about the mental health struggles she had, the physical suffering she went through when she was there, she said she had a loss of hope. and you just heard ambassador mcfaul talking about the fact that marc fogel was not in the best of health. are you confident in the us's ability to help marc fogel make this transition back into his everyday life? we all know

that there will be difficulties, that there will be struggles, that beyond the joy of the reunion, there are issues that will need to be addressed. is the us good at doing that, at helping with that? >> absolutely. the us is actually quite good at this. there's going to be all sorts of resources at our disposal, certainly mental health resources, but also of course, physical exams. i think that the full weight of the us government and the governments health community will be utilized here. and you're right, this is going to have been an incredibly traumatic experience. i've certainly known people who have been taken hostage. it's going to take days, weeks, months and perhaps years to recover. but i do feel that the us government has has ample resources, and i am quite confident they will be utilized. >> marc polymeropoulos, ambassador mcfaul, on what is a joyous moment that again, if you are missing that breaking news, u.s. citizen marc fogel, who was

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