america to its monarchy era. congratulations, everyone. >> you can. >> now take your place in. >> the pantheon of great empires alongside the british, the roman, the klingon. wakanda. >> the joke is whether we are losing our democracy bit by bit. and the reminder is, of course, this country fought a revolutionary war to get away from monarchs and kings who rule without any checks on their power. what do you think of the joke? and is it coming true? you can always tell me on social media at ari melber on any of your choosing. that does it for us. the reidout with joy reid starts now. hi, joy. >> hey, ari. >> you know, that whole. >> revolutionary war thing. >> was just. a pause. >> before we chose. >> the. >> next king. >> come on. ari, stop. >> come on. >> you know how. >> it is. >> bring the kings back. >> come on. >> bring the kings back. >> thank you.

>> very much. >> have a great evening. >> all right. >> and thank you all. >> for joining us tonight. >> we have a lot. >> to get. >> to in the. >> next hour of the reidout. >> including senator amy klobuchar. >> joining me on what. >> congress can do to. >> rein in. >> the. >> worst of. >> king donald. >> trump's executive. >> orders, plus trump's. >> increasingly disturbing plans to, quote, take gaza and. >> his insistence. >> that egypt and jordan will. >> take in all of. gaza's people. >> whether they or the gazans want to or not. but we begin tonight with the. new battleground. >> in the effort to stymie. the president's. >> push to transform the. federal bureaucracy. and expand. >> executive power. and by the president. >> i think i mean donald trump. but it could. >> easily mean elon. >> musk, too. >> since he seems. >> to be acting. >> as trump's. >> co commander in chief. >> and after being. >> trump's biggest. >> campaign donor, the world's. richest billionaire has. >> his staff. >> rifling through. >> nearly every federal. >> agency cutting off. >> funding to. >> basically whatever. >> they want to. >> and particularly targeting the most vulnerable and, frankly, the. >> poorest americans. >> the fight over whether. >> that is actually. >> legal is. >> playing out.

>> in the. federal courts. >> right now. >> where district. >> judges are. >> releasing a flurry of orders. >> on some. >> of trump's most controversial. >> executive orders. >> as. >> well as trying to keep. >> elon musk and. >> his junior. >> staffers from being able. >> to access. >> sensitive government. >> systems like the treasury. >> department's payment system. >> basically. >> the system that pays all. >> of america's. >> bills, or. >> at least. >> it did until. >> the doj's kids came along. the pushback. >> is not sitting well with. >> the co-presidents. >> who. held court in the oval office today. together alongside. elon's toddler. and weirdly. it was. >> musk doing most of. >> the talking. >> perhaps he should. >> have. >> been the one sitting behind the resolute desk when he did get a word in edgewise. >> trump did put. >> the. >> judges on. >> notice with. >> this ominous remark. >> and it seems hard to believe that judges want to try and stop us from looking for corruption, especially when we found hundreds of millions of dollars worth much more than that in just a short period of time. we want to weed out the corruption,

and it seems hard to believe that a judge could say, we don't want you to do that. well, so maybe we have to look at the judges, because that's a very serious i think it's a very serious violation. >> weirdly. >> no one asked for specifics on that supposed corruption they found, adding to the pushback from the courts, just this morning, a federal judge ordered trump's federal health agencies to restore web pages that have been changed or taken down to comply. >> with trump's. >> executive order regarding so-called gender ideology. u.s. district judge john bates, a george w bush appointee. >> said the changes. >> to the web pages appeared to harm. some doctor's ability. >> to treat. >> patients and. >> was done without any public rationale, recourse or ability to challenge the decisions. despite laws and regulations that typically require them. but when it comes to trump and his administration following the law, we've seen how they've decided to pick and choose which ones they want to follow. of

course, this shouldn't be all. that surprising. >> this is what happens. >> when you put an adjudicated criminal in charge of your government. not only does. >> he not feel bound by. >> the law, he clearly. >> feels empowered. >> to defy the courts. and dare. >> them to react. one of. >> his. first acts. >> as president was to release nearly. >> 1500 fellow. >> convicted criminals. >> the january 6th. >> insurrectionists, including the hundreds who violently attacked law enforcement simply because they were his allies. so to trump, that means they're patriots. right now, he's allowing musk and musk's musk's. teenage band of doge programmers free rein to rifle through americans data to do who knows what with it. the potential theft of all of our personal data is now on the table for both scammers and maybe even foreign adversaries. who knows? and thanks to trump, the consumer financial protection bureau will no longer be there to help americans avoid being ripped off. all of this is happening as those around trump, like vice president jd vance,

are openly saying that the courts actually. have no right to act as a check and balance on trump, even though the constitution. says that they do. >> and don't expect. >> any pushback from the other co-equal branch of government. as house speaker mike johnson says, he's on board with vance's assessment. >> i will say i agree wholeheartedly with with vice president jd vance, my friend, because he's right what they're doing in the executive branch. i've been asked so many times, aren't you uncomfortable with this? no i'm not. i think that the courts should take a step back and allow these processes to play out. what we're doing is good and right for the american people. >> the we's doing a lot of work there. in the meantime, we are getting a firsthand look at what justice looks like in the second trump term. yesterday, the justice department ordered federal prosecutors to drop the bribery and fraud charges against new york city mayor eric adams, a move one federal law enforcement official called horrific and just transparent

corruption. in a striking two page memo, acting deputy attorney general emily bove said the justice department reached the decision not based on the strength of the evidence, but rather they think the indictment had been brought too close to adams reelection campaign and has restricted the mayor's ability to, quote, devote full attention and resources to illegal immigration and violent crime. >> bove also. >> suggested, without evidence, that the charges were politically motivated, writing, it cannot be ignored that mayor adams criticized the prior administration's immigration policies before the charges were filed. but it's not just adams. trump also signed a full pardon for rod blagojevich, the former illinois governor and celebrity apprentice contestant who in 2011 was convicted of corruption for attempting to sell the. senate seat vacated by barack obama when he became president. today, we learned that blagojevich is reportedly and i promise you, i promise you, i'm not making this up. under consideration to be the next

u.s. ambassador to serbia, according to a source with knowledge of the matter. because, of course, add to that trump signing an executive order directing the doj to pause prosecutions of americans accused of bribing foreign governments and also ousting the head of the office of government ethics. because, you know who needs ethics when you're creating a breeding ground for corruption, fraud and scams on the american people? anybody want to buy a trump meme coin or use twitter to send money like cashapp or paypal? raise your hands. i guess we should expect nothing less from the first convicted felon president. the question is what, if anything, can we do about it? joining me now is sherrilyn ifill, vernon jordan chair in civil rights at howard university and former president and director counsel for the naacp legal defense fund. sherrilyn, it is always good to see you. i want to go back and get you to react to the speaker of the house saying, no, this is fine. i have no problem with donald trump's top campaign

donor exercising my authority as a member of congress and all of congress's authority. >> oh, good evening joy. >> listen, everyone knows, and certainly the republicans know, what are the magic words that you have to say in order not to incite trump's ire? and those are the words that mike johnson is saying. before the clip that you showed, the reporters asked him the question and said, you are a constitutional law expert, mr. johnson. and even the man behind mr. johnson laughed a bit. >> he's not. >> talking like a lawyer. he's saying what he feels. and you heard the language he used. what we're doing is good and right. he has a kind of evangelical tone. he's not talking about whether it's legal. he's not talking about whether they are following the procedures that are required by law. he's not talking about whether separation of powers is being recognized and protected. and, frankly, for the leader of the house of representatives to sanction and

support, essentially handing over the power of the united states congress and independent branch of government to the executive branch is shocking. it's disqualifying and would be in any other time. so when we hear mike johnson saying that in that tone where he's trying to calm everything down, we should recognize that he's abdicating, abdicating his responsibility as the speaker of the house to protect the power of that house. that's nonpartisan. that's not because he's a republican or a democrat, but because his allegiance should be to the united states congress. and what he showed there is that his allegiance is to whatever other whims of this united states president, not to the congress to which he has been elected as leader. >> i will note that j.d. vance is president of the senate as vice president and has a yale law degree, and agreed and concurred also with the law breaking of the president. i want to go to some of just the corruption piece. let's just zero in on eric adams for a moment. eric adams, you know, the doj is dropping the charges. they literally said in order in order for the charges against

adams to be dismissed and the dismissal is without prejudice, the official said, meaning the charges could be filed in the future, which essentially means that donald trump now owns eric adams because those charges could come at him anytime. i will add to that this piece of news from pix11, local great local 11, the local news outlet in new york, mayor adams instructed his top officials in a very tense meeting not to criticize donald trump if they have any issues with the president, keep it to themselves. this man is now the property, in a sense, of donald trump, that is the most open and blatant corruption i can imagine. >> well, you remember that, you know, word on the street was that mayor adams wanted a pardon from the president. he did not get a pardon. what he got was an offer to remove the heat. and we all understood that he was kind of looking for a pardon, by the way, in which he was cosigning some of trump's commentary about immigration. we understood that. but what happened is something

even more chilling. this dismissal without prejudice essentially means. and they said they'll review it again after november, after the election. and essentially what that means, if that is that if mayor adams steps out of line in accordance with how trump or pam bondi might see it, the attorney general, they can re-up this case at any moment. you can't help but be chilled by that. you can't help but be compromised in what you might say or what you might do, or policies you might undertake. i'm fully expecting mayor adams to be at president trump's black history month commemoration next week. i expect that he will be called upon on various occasions to shore up the policies of president trump. but the issue here is that this is someone elected to represent the people of new york, what the people of new york need and what's best for them. and this is clearly a way in which president trump and pam bondi have some control over him, and that we can't expect

that it will not have some influence on the way he behaves over the next ten months. >> yeah. and what happens to immigrants in his city? they're already saying that ice officials should be allowed into schools. they're a sanctuary city. that's not legal, but they're going to let ice run wild in the city of new york because trump needs it. let's i want to go to the supreme court because one of the conceits to me, of john roberts is that he sees his own power as sacrosanct, that he believes that the power of the courts cannot be questioned. he then said the following in his immunity the immunity ruling that so scarred the whole meaning of a civilian president, a citizen president, quote, the danger is akin to indeed greater than what led us to recognize absolute presidential immunity from civil damages liability, that the president would be chilled from taking the bold and unhesitating action required of an independent executive. the bold and unhesitating action that he believes that donald trump ought to be able to take, he now has essentially created a monster because donald trump's

bold and unhesitating action, including apparently means ignoring the courts. doesn't that mean that donald trump might say, i don't know, i don't want to listen to a ruling by john roberts and the supreme court conservative majority. >> yeah, i think this is an interesting question, joy. first of all, yes, i wouldn't say he created a monster. trump was a monster, but he emboldened the monster. he didn't just remove the chill. he lit a fire under a president who was disinclined to follow rules and to follow the law in the first place. and now what they have done is told him that he can do so with impunity. so we're getting exactly what we should have expected after that supreme court's immunity decision. but you you didn't hear trump today was quite interesting in the oval office there with elon musk. he hedged on the question of whether or not he would defy judicial orders. in fact, he said, i always will always comply with judicial orders. now, this is not because trump has suddenly developed an affection for the rule of law. this is because senators like josh hawley and others have been quietly behind

the scenes. it's been reported calling the president and saying, don't do this. do not step out and suggest that you are not going to follow the rules of courts. so this is important because i have said for some time, the only thing that can slow this train down is if some wedges are built between trump and elon and between trump and republicans in congress. i think we're starting to see that in congress. representative dan bacon from nebraska has been quite distressed about the u.s. aid aid issue, as has the senator from kansas, because they know how it will affect their farmers. i think if you looked at that picture that you just showed in the in the in the oval office, the wedge between elon and trump is growing and will grow. you know, the time magazine cover the protests. i think this is important to just keep your eye on, keep your eye on the wedge between trump and elon that will grow. and keep your eye on the senators, at least a couple of them who seem to be pushing on trump and saying, this is a this is maybe a bridge too far and a dangerous

for us for you to say you're not going to comply with judge's orders. he did say, maybe we should quickly the judges, he did say maybe we should look at the judges. he wants trump. >> yeah. to try to impeach them very quickly. can the us can they be? jamie raskin is talking about maybe a class action lawsuit against elon musk demanding that he not have our data? could a class action lawsuit be the way to go? >> i think that there are actually many ways to skin this cat, and this is something a number of us have been talking about. what are some of the potential litigation moves? there are some already. there's a direct challenge to the department of governmental efficiency. there are actually multiple challenges in multiple courts for all kinds of elements of this that would slow down the train. but i think a kind of omnibus challenge is something that lots of people are looking at. there's a question about whether there can be a challenge on behalf of democrats in congress because of this usurpation of their power. so i think there are lots of ways to go. i heard my great friend

representative raskin yesterday kind of brainstorming in front of the mics. and, and i think it's possible i don't think that lawsuits are going to end people are really this is something we've never faced before. and so people are really looking at all the options. i've been actually quite gratified by some of the plans that i've seen, and that's the part that we have to wait on, because we know all this stuff's going to go up to the supreme court. in the meantime, don't think that the protests don't matter. don't think that calling your congressmen, both republican and democrats, don't doesn't matter. it does matter. they are hearing it. everyone is uneasy, no matter what mike johnson says and what tone of voice. they are made uneasy by elon's recklessness and by the power grab. just him standing there in the oval office today like he was a co-president. and keep in mind that the president just said yesterday that he does not think j.d. vance is his successor. so he's already indicating. yeah, so wedges and wedges are breaking out all over the place, and we should keep

our eye on it. >> sherrilyn ifill, always a pleasure. thank you. >> so thank you, george. >> and coming up cheers. coming up, more on trump's assault on the federal government and what, if anything, democrats can do about it. senator amy klobuchar about it. senator amy klobuchar joins me next. what are folks 60 and older learning these days? new perspectives! ♪♪ how to fix things. ♪♪ fun recip... (high pitched sound) (high pitched sound) (high pitched sound) ♪♪ huh, noom has glp-1 meds now? yes, noom combines medications with healthy habits so you can lose the weight and keep it off. yeah, glp-1s starting at $149. that's noom smart. noom. the smart way to lose weight.

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>> 22 days into trump's, everything everywhere all at once returned to office, 13 out of the 22 announced members of

his cabinet have already been confirmed, with weekend tv host turned defense secretary pete hegseth the only cabinet nominee to not receive any votes from democrats. and this will be a consequential week, with a vote scheduled for the nomination of former democratic congresswoman and kremlin favorite tulsi gabbard to become the national, the director of national intelligence and another for wealthy vaccine skeptic, former heroin addict and non-scientist rfk jr to head health and human services. those crucial cabinet votes come as the senate judiciary committee will vote on thursday to advance trump ban. an occasional conspiracy theorist, kash patel's nomination to serve as fbi director, in spite of another strongly worded letter, this time sent by dick durbin, the ranking democrat on that committee, accusing patel of secretly orchestrating the firings of fbi officials whose work has displeased donald trump. despite telling the committee under oath that he was not aware of any plan to do such a thing. joining me now is senator amy klobuchar of minnesota. senator, i want to

ask you about these nominations in just a moment, but i first want to get your comment on donald trump holding an oval office, you know, confab with reporters with elon musk and elon musk's toddler standing over him, that elon musk standing over him holding his baby. what did you make of that? >> it's unbelievable to me. i think. >> we saw enough of it at the inauguration, with all the oligarchs lined up in front of the cabinet nominees, and now this elon musk has. conflicts up the wazoo. he has. all kinds of federal government contracts. he's running a business, and now he's rummaging around in the private data of americans. and that when you when you ask americans, do you think that's okay? overwhelmingly they say no. and i think the big question that i just keep coming back to with all this chaos up, corruption is up. you know what else is up? a crisis. because as much as donald. trump promised

to bring prices down and costs down for americans, another day goes by when there's no work. >> on bringing. >> health care costs down, when there's no work on bringing housing costs down, and there's no work on doing something about making more child care for the people of this country. so every day when i wake up, i think about that because it's really important that we realize what they're doing here. they are literally trying to clock in favors for people like elon musk and put out a tax plan that we're about to see with over $2 trillion in tax cuts for the wealthiest of americans, and they're looking for ways to pay for it. and one of those ways, according to doge and elon musk, is cutting out funding from nih, which literally funds cancer trials for kids. that's what's going on right now. people need to see it as it is. >> so let's talk about what the senate can do, what the what democrats can do, because obviously democrats do not have a majority in the house or in the senate. but i'm old enough

to remember mitch mcconnell's strategy when he was in that position of being in the minority with republicans was an all out war to stop barack obama from doing anything. and he did that using the filibuster and by holding his caucus together to vote no on anything, they could barely name a post office. y'all could barely get anything done when president obama was there such that he had to do things like daca through executive orders. you all have some, you know, ability to filibuster. it has been used sort of sparingly to temporarily stop one nomination, but then it went through up mr. vote. but in terms of voting for or against the nominees, even just as a symbolic measure, democrats are voting for some of these guys. the treasury secretary, scott bessent, got 68 total senate votes. that means a lot of democrats voted with him. pam bondi got 54. that means democrats voted for her. doug burgum got 79, doug collins 77 for veterans affairs. i can go down this list. rubio got 99 votes, almost unanimous. all the democrats going along. you yourself, senator, have voted

for eight of the 13 confirmed cabinet nominees. why vote for any of them? why not simply withhold democrats consent for anything, including the budget that's coming up? vote for nothing. >> okay. >> i just on my own. >> i'm sorry you voted against it. you voted against. >> eight. >> against vote against it. i voted against bondi. i'm voting against tulsi gabbard. and like nearly all my colleagues, i'm voting against kennedy. and of course, i'm going to vote against kash. patel had been one of the people leading the charge against kash patel. so i have voted against a majority of these people, and i believe that they are dangerous for america. so let me start out with that. secondly, it is the question to ask joy is what are the republicans doing when democrats are voting against people like kash patel, who says he wants to close down the headquarters of the fbi, who is on a revenge agenda? who's hawking reversals on the covid vaccine to make money? what are the republicans

doing day after day? they are acquiescing in this. and that is what really, really bothers me. and yes, we lost this election and they controlled this place. we know that. but time and time again through history, when a party controls like they do, there are brave and courageous souls who stand up and we just haven't seen that yet. so i believe that's the question that has to be asked. and what are democrats doing? you just heard it from cheryl lynn. incredible things. democratic attorney generals and governors taking on these cases. and we've been giving them whatever record evidence that we can that is public from these hearings, taking on cases, winning cases, stopping this nih, this disastrous, disastrous nih, stopping the funding they have taken on. but, joy, i mean, the victories are mounting. they have stopped him from rummaging around the treasury data. they have stopped the freeze of the funding. they are taking this on. and we that's the court strategy. the congress strategy is oversight and taking on these

nominees through the night. i'm still here in the middle of a snowstorm. joy. and then finally standing with our constituents, which they are. they are literally shutting down the phone lines. so i would not for a second put this on democrats right now. this is why aren't the republicans standing up. >> and i totally get that. and i would love to get a republican to come on and answer that question. we haven't been able to do that yet. let me ask one more question. if the logic of donald trump is that he gets to do you guys job and decide how the public's money is spent, and you all have no say in it, and he can just bypass you. why shouldn't states like california and new york, who are donor states, say, okay, in maryland and other states like that, say, then we're not going to send any, any, any more tax money to the federal government. we're going to hold on to our tax money and deduct the amount that congress allocated to us. and you're not getting a dime more than that. we're going to keep our money. why shouldn't states do that? >> i still believe in the united states of america as a federal

system. so let me give you a different solution here. the solution is that we win these court cases big time, and i believe we will. we've already had reagan appointed trump, appointed, bush appointed judges stay on our side because when you and josh hawley are having a mind meld when it comes to holding up the rule of law, joy, that is true. you both use the same example from history this week. it's scary. but when you guys are on the same side in terms of holding up the rule of law and moving forward, i think we have momentum on our side when it comes to the fact that we have three equal branches of government, and you cannot have an executive that makes unilateral decisions like they're doing. they know it. jd vance knows it. he is a he a, as you pointed out, a yale law graduate. he knows what he's saying. and they are messing around with something very dangerous, in the words of justice roberts. and i believe we will prevail in these court cases. >> well, we shall see. senator amy klobuchar, thank you very much. and stay. >> tuned on joy. thank you.

>> cheers. thank you. and coming up next, donald trump met with king abdullah of jordan today, where trump continued to push for the united states to take over gaza and expel nearly 2 million palestinians from their homeland, with no right to return the implications of that horrific and, frankly illegal proposal, and the latest complications with the hostage deal between israel and hamas is next. >> in my eyes, they're dry, uncomfortable looking for extra hydration. now there's blink nutrition. it works differently than drops. blink nutrition is a once daily supplement clinically proven to hydrate from within, helping your eyes produce more of their own tears to promote lasting, continuous relief. you'll feel day after day. try blink nutrition. here's a

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>> i can feel the winds of change. >> today. donald trump doubled down on his insistence that the us will forcibly empty the gaza strip of 2 million palestinians. >> we're not going to have to buy. we're going to we're going to have gaza. we don't have to buy. there's nothing to buy. we will have gaza. what does that mean? no reason to buy. there is nothing to buy. it's gaza. it's a it's a war torn area. we're going to take it. we're going to hold it. we're going to cherish it. >> mr. president, take it. >> under what authority? >> it is. >> sovereign. >> territory under the us authority. >> wow. on sunday, he told bret baer that he he would own this and that the forcible displacement of the palestinian people is, quote, a real estate development for the future, but that the palestinians would not

have a right to return, which would directly violate international law. today, trump was asked a somewhat obvious question about palestinians not wanting to leave. here is that exchange. >> mr. president, how do you know that the palestinians don't want to leave their land? some people say this is ethnic cleansing. you won't be able to force them to leave their land. >> this is moving into a beautiful location where they have new homes, where they can live safely, where they'll have doctors and medical and all of those things. and i think it's going to be great. >> wow. yesterday, he said he might withhold aid to jordan and egypt if they did not take in palestinian refugees. there are already 2 million palestinian refugees in jordan. and while trump was claiming that the us would take gaza, prime minister benjamin netanyahu warned that if hamas did not return israeli hostages by saturday at noon, the cease fire would end and the military assault would resume until, quote, hamas was finally

defeated. the prospect of palestinians being resettled is a nonstarter for the countries in the region. after his meeting today with trump, the jordanian king whose wife, queen rania, is a palestinian refugee, tweeted that achieving a just peace on the basis of the two state solution is the only way to ensure regional stability. a former deputy prime minister close to the jordanian government told the bbc that we consider any attempt by israel or others to push people out of their own houses in gaza and the west bank as a criminal act. but any attempt to push those people into jordan will be tantamount to a declaration of war. late this afternoon, egyptian state television reported that egypt rejected any proposal to allocate egyptian land to gaza residents. joining me now is rula jebreal, journalist and palestinian policy expert. rula, it gets it goes from bad to worse to clear violations of

international law. donald trump is tripling down and saying that they will take gaza under american authority. and he's still calling it a real estate development. what is the region saying? what are you hearing from your sources in jordan and egypt? >> well. >> the entire. >> region actually. >> convened arab. >> league summit. >> and they are. rejecting it. >> in mass because they understand that this is not a new idea. >> joy. >> this has been this. >> is the same. >> idea that the far right in israel has been trying. >> to impose on palestinians. >> for 75 years. actually, we. >> are here in this place because they. >> never solved. >> the issue of the 700,000 palestinians. who are ethnically cleansed. in 1948, there was a united. >> nations resolution. >> that was about the right of return, which. >> is enshrined. >> in international law. it's actually an international covenant of rights and political rights and civil rights. >> however. >> the international community gave israel that exception. and today israel. is backed by the united states. is saying that

the. >> law is. >> wrong, that presidential. decree will change the law. it doesn't work like this. but also when donald trump used this, you know, excuse that he will cut aid. he doesn't understand this aid is not charity. it's tied actually to peace accords and security accords for the united states and israel itself. maybe that doesn't remember, but in april last year, it was thanks to jordan and the arabs that they stopped the drones and the missiles from basically from iran. if that security accord is null and void, then all hell can break loose. he's right about this. but that means. regional war not only against palestinians, but against 400 million people in the region. >> can you tell me, in the region, do people believe that this idea that donald trump has of the u.s. owning gaza, which seems insane, the idea that u.s. troops would have to be there, they're going to clear all the bombs and build developments. he

claims there would be any military involved. of course there would. you couldn't have the us occupy gaza without the military does. do people believe this idea came from trump himself, or is this an idea that is netanyahu's far right supporters like itamar ben-gvir and mr. smotrich? is it from them? >> yes. >> but not only this is an idea that kushner. >> actually. >> i believe last spring was peddling about. yeah. >> the waterfront. >> in gaza. and he was talking about this. but this is an idea as old as the state of israel. and this is an idea that, you know, the founding fathers basically were were fantasizing about, but they never had the legitimacy or validation from a united states, you know, president. and i think a lot of it's giving actually license for smotrich to say on television that this this idea will not stop against the palestinians, only in gaza. he actually said that this is the west bank. the occupied west bank is next. this is, i think, what what donald

trump doesn't understand, the region actually offered to israel in multiple occasions. the arab peace initiative in 2002, 2007, 2017 and 2020 4th september this year. they actually told israel, we are willing to guarantee your security. we are willing to take on and reconstruct gaza where willing actually to accept and normalize and embrace you in the region. and the first two countries, actually, that made a peace deal with the israelis were jordan and egypt. so they are willing all of them together to accept israel, normalize on one condition, end the military occupation and allow a palestinian state. israel rejected this, but they were stunned. the arabs that trump himself, who bragged about being, you know, and campaigned on not wanting war, that he would dismiss that idea and would embrace the kushner kahana, smotrich ben-gvir idea. they were stunned because they thought he was more pragmatic. i

think they were wrong. >> i mean, there is also this hostage deal that seems that it's probably going to end, that there will be a restart, a restarting of hostilities, maybe even as soon as this weekend. do you have a sense on the arab american side, because there was a move toward trump, as you said, thinking of him as the potential peacemaker here? that clearly is not only not the case, it's beyond not the case. he's not trying to make peace. he's claiming the us would become the new occupier in the middle east. >> look, joey, i think we need also to have this conversation in an honest way, and i, i am one of the people who actually reached out to the kamala, you know, campaign saying that she can stand and defend international law and the leahy law. that was america's leahy law that was violated constantly by israel. i think people in especially the people who didn't vote because the overwhelming majority didn't vote. but even if every arab american voted, she would have lost the elections. the truth this election was between oligarchs.

it's a fight between oligarchs and multinational corporations. the oligarchs won, sadly, and i think we need to be clear about why did the democrats decide to put israel and, and not international law and not america's democracy on top of this, regarding the ceasefire, i think it will collapse because israel violated that ceasefire. but not only that, there's another issue. they were never going to go into the second phase, which means total withdrawal from gaza and above all, basically giving the palestinians a permanent ceasefire. netanyahu never wanted that. and i don't think trump even agreed to that. >> this is a mess in a very simple terms. please come back. and as we see these developments continue, it doesn't seem like in a good way. thank you, rula jebreal. and up next, blatant racism behind the war on die. with the military no longer recruiting at the annual black engineer of the year awards, why would they do that while they're still recruiting at nra sponsored events? of course. sponsored events? of course. don't go anywhere. tap into etsy

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restoring the name fort bragg because who wants to use the term liberty? here's what hegseth said about that old switcheroo today. >> first. >> it means. >> bragg. >> is back. >> no, actually it's not. it's not, because instead of owning up to his weird obsession with the base's original namesake, braxton bragg, the confederate who enslaved humans lost key battles and is widely considered to have been the worst general in the war. hegseth is renaming the base to honor a different bragg. private first class roland bragg, a world war two hero who earned the purple heart for his service during the battle of the bulge. which is fine, i guess, except it's a cynical move that could cost millions of dollars to change all the plaques and the literature about the base, and actually rather wimpy, given that hegseth had advocated for returning to base to its previous name because legacy matters. look, if he wanted to change the name to honor private bragg, he could have just done that and said so. instead of

pretending to restore the name when it comes to these orders around race, what donald trump and his foot soldiers are doing fall broadly into two categories. this fort bragg renaming falls under the performative. but the other half, which is far more serious, sure looks like an attempt to resegregate the military. military.com is reporting that the army and other service branches are abandoning recruiting efforts at a prestigious black engineering event this week, turning down access to a key pool of highly qualified potential applicants amid trump's purge of diversity initiatives in the military and everywhere else in government. joining me now is retired army lieutenant general russel honoré. so good to see you, lieutenant general honoré. what do you make of the idea that it is no longer acceptable to recruit at a black engineering event, but still acceptable to recruit at nra events? >> that's pretty warped. if i've ever heard. weird, to say the least. with the number of minority soldiers we have in the

army now and in all the military. that's pretty warped. that's very lame for the administration that came in and said, we're going to focus on warfighting. we're going to focus on meritocracy. you've got to have merit. well, you don't have folks hanging around engineer conventions that are not of merit. i mean, you don't become an engineer by now, passing the academic requirements, and you would think they would embrace that. but boy, did i hear you say they're going to the nra convention, but they're not going to the engineer convention. that doesn't sound like making the military more about warfighting. that sounds like some reminiscence of some talking point from fox. and i hope the secretary, with all due respect, you need to lose that part of his past and focus on what he said he was going to do. warfighting and readiness and going after the industrial complex that is dragging out the

deployment of multimillion dollar and billion dollar programs that are very ineffective. and that's what he said he was going to do. but he's still stuck with one foot in that fox chair. and he needs to move on from that because the grunts are watching him. the grunts want him to say they're doing good. >> yeah, i mean, he i mean, to be to be fair to him, he really doesn't know how to do those other things. he's he's a fox tv host, not really somebody who's managed a big, complex organization like the military. but here's another thing that that that has been done under hegseth. west point has disbanded cultural clubs in response to trump's anti dei executive order. the clubs disbanded include the asian pacific foreign club, the japanese forum club, the latin forum cultural club, the national society of black engineers club, the native american heritage forum and the society for women engineers club. now still allowed to meet are the west point polish club and the west point humanist society. what's that about? >> it says it all. the polish

and the germans can. >> meet. >> i mean. >> that's you asians, not not you asians. not you african-american. i think they've they've leaned into this way over their skis. and because they want to say, okay, let's see how show you how bad we can make it and how miserable we can make people. he got to remember, this is an all volunteer force, and he better not f it up. yeah, it has taken us four decades to build this force where people volunteer to come in and we don't need to draft. we can't have him over tooling something that has very little impact on our combat readiness. >> i want to note that you know, that that, you know, white christian men are clearly what pete hegseth wants to increase the supply of. but according to the census, only 19% of americans are white christian men. so he's reducing the pool,

saying, we don't want anyone who is diverse but people of color, black and brown, folks. overindex on joining the military. black and latino americans are increasingly the biggest pool of people who want to join the military. if we're just going to try to sort of reverse harry truman's order as 1948 order, you know, desegregating the military, which did result in this very multiracial. it's one of our most multiracial organizations. what does that do to combat readiness? if they try to say, we really only want to go for the pool of that 19%, not the rest of americans, not the other 81%. >> yeah, i think that's a very false narrative. and they'll end up short on their recruiting campaign. and there's a lot of talk about the over the last couple of months, the army is starting to meet its recruiting numbers. i think that trend has started. the economy has a lot to do with that. but that would be very disheartening to the thousands and millions of veterans sitting out there

watching this happen that they're going to reverse from 1947 and go back to a segregated army. and i don't think that's the intent, but it's showing the hell sound like it when we go to recruit that nra. but we're not going to the black engineer convention. holy lordy. >> holy lordy is what i say to the retired retired lieutenant general russel honoré. always a general russel honoré. always a pleasure. thank you so for more than a decade farxiga has been trusted again and again, and again. ♪far-xi-ga♪ ♪far-xi-ga♪ ask your doctor about farxiga. above the rest. it's super beats. discover why more cardiologists recommend super cardiologists recommend super beats for heart health (vo) it's half time, time to go to the bathroom. (man) never slams.

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>> welcome back! it is time for our much needed moment of joy this time. an update to our discussion last night about the wokest super bowl ever. the ratings are in and there was a bit of entertainment. history made. kendrick lamar's halftime show was the most watched performance in the history of the game, with 133.5 million people tuning in. that is a larger audience than the super bowl game itself. so much for those on the right claiming people turned the tv off. no, they sang turn the tv off. and for those keeping track, that's over 100 million more than the 24.6 million viewers that tuned in to watch president donald trump's second inauguration. even the youtube video of the halftime show, uploaded yesterday, already has more views than trump's coronation. no need to be humble. thanks for the euphoria and the moment of joy. kendrick all in with chris hayes starts now. >> tonight on all in.