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your structured settlement call now. >> hi everyone. >> welcome to wednesday. >> it's 4:00. >> in new york. >> there is brand new reporting. >> today that reveals. >> that the planned. >> purge of. doj and fbi rank and. >> file. >> as well. >> as any leadership. >> of any official. >> who diligently. >> and unapologetically pursued january 6th cases, might have. >> missed a spot. >> nbc news. >> reports this. >> quote in the months after the january 6th attacks, a hard charging federal prosecutor in manhattan eagerly oversaw efforts to find and arrest capitol rioters in the new york area. his former colleagues say, and even proposed to the justice department that his office should play. >> a. >> central role in the

investigation. his name is emil bove. as acting deputy attorney general. bove is right now leading the charge to identify and possibly expel thousands of fbi agents who worked on the january 6th investigation, the largest investigation in justice department history. he wrote this in a memo, quote, the fbi, including the bureau's prior leadership, actively participated in what president trump appropriately describes as a, quote, grave national injustice that has been perpetrated on the american people over the last four years. grave national injustice in both writing and in trump's warped alternate reality, is not actually the violent storming of the u.s. capitol or the maiming and injuring of scores of capitol police officers, or the setting up and erecting of a gallows to potentially hang mike pence, the sitting vice president, or members of congress. it's not attempting to

overturn the outcome of the election. the will of the american voter, either. what trump means and what bove writes by grave national injustice is the prosecution of people responsible for all of that. for everything we mentioned for years, though, trump's deputy ag didn't see it this way, didn't see it the way trump sees it. once again, from nbc's new reporting, quote, bove worked closely with fbi agents as they hunted down suspects in the new york area. quote, he treated these cases as a priority, said christopher o'leary, who sat in meetings with bove as a senior fbi counterterrorism agent. quote, in my daily interactions with him, there was never any indication of anything other than full throated support. bove attended weekly morning meetings about january 6th cases chaired by the senior fbi official in new york, the group of prosecutors and law enforcement agents planned and prioritized efforts to find and arrest

january 6th defendants based on the intelligence coming in from all around the country. emil gave very clear direction to aggressively work to support the fbi's effort to write warrants. pen registers. et cetera. the former prosecutor told nbc news, referring to an fbi technology that records incoming phone numbers regarding one particular arrest of a january 6th defendant. a prosecutor who asked to remain anonymous, told nbc news this, quote, emil was up half the night preparing for that arrest, but i don't know, maybe that was a different emil bové, the emil bove who he was before he joined donald trump's legal defense team and before he was nominated to run the department of justice. before pam bondi's confirmation. an official tells nbc news that the amount of damage that bove and his team have done to doj and public trust in the department is, quote, impossible to

overstate. and that's to say nothing of what the trump administration still has in store for the fbi workforce. the new york times reports that the bureau has compiled a list of 3600 so-called probationary employees, or recent hires, who joined the bureau within the last year or two. they're on that list as part of the trump administration's efforts to slash the federal workforce. from that reporting, quote, at the fbi, officials are concerned that cutting the workforce by firing probationary employees would be risky and costly, since agents undergo extensive training and removing new analysts and other support personnel could have repercussions beyond the simple decline of personnel. natalie barra, the president of the fbi agents association, said the probationary employees represent roughly 10% of the agency's workforce, and their dismissal would reverberate widely. these people are, quote, actively investigating crimes in every

state and globally, she said, adding this, quote, losing these agents and employees would weaken national security now and into the future. the trump administration's war on the rule of law, potentially endangering national security, is where we start again today. nbc news justice reporter and author of sedition hunters how january 6th broke the justice system. ryan riley is here. he's bylined on that fantastic reporting we just read from. also joining us is former democratic senator, msnbc political analyst, our friend claire mccaskill's back. and with me at the table, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york and attorney for former fbi director james comey. david kelly is here. plus, former republican congressman and msnbc political analyst david jolly is here. ryan, let me start with you on the reporting about emil bove's role in. i think the quote is eagerly, i don't want to misquote him eagerly pursuing january 6th cases. do we know if

trump knew that. >> we you know, we don't. i mean, a lot of people. >> within the fbi. >> and doj were in some way involved. in these cases. this, again, is the largest. >> investigation, was the largest investigation in fbi and doj. >> history in terms of the number of defendants. it was an incredibly widespread operation. and you. >> have people all. >> up and down the chain of. >> command at the. >> fbi and a lot of u.s. attorney's offices who had to help out. with this in some capacity. so it's just. >> a huge. >> amount of people. but the anger about. >> this. within the bureau. >> and within the justice. >> department. >> i really. >> don't think can be overstated. >> i had someone, you know, use. >> a term that i can't use on the airwaves. >> here to. >> refer to the acting deputy. >> attorney general and referred to him as a traitor, saying. >> that this. >> was someone who, you know, who switched sides, right? >> who went from. >> who went from championing these cases all the way to targeting individuals who pursued these. cases to begin with, even though he had that background as a career attorney and a lot of people, because of that background. >> i. >> think gave him a little. bit

of a little. bit of a of a leash and thought that, okay, maybe this is someone who's sort of sober minded who will come in here and, and recognize. this for, for what it was. and, you know, someone said they. were hoping. >> that he would be an. >> adult in the room. >> and that's i don't think, is the way it has has played out. >> i mean, there's just a lot of anger over this targeting. and as well as going after nicole, probationary. fbi agents potentially that's you know, i think that could just have sweeping consequences. for the bureau for years. >> so emil bove said in a meeting every morning after after suggesting that s.d.n.y. should take over, that the counterterrorism unit should take over a bunch of the january 6th cases. what was the alleged infraction of fbi leaders? i mean, did they do more or less than that? >> yeah, it's a it's. >> a good. >> question, right? you know, it's a good question. >> about what. >> the fbi, you know, so the i should say the cases were somewhat controversial within within. the fbi

ways that the cases were were handled, this was not something that everybody was necessarily on, on board with from the get go. i think, you know, especially the assault on the federal officer cases. i think just as most of the vast majority of the american public would support those cases, i think those also had a lot of support internally. but, you know, remember, the fbi is this conservative leaning law enforcement organization. and so it's not only politics, it was also just this idea that people who are typically working felony cases were dealing with misdemeanors. right. so that was something that we that you heard a lot of sort of internal divisions about about how these cases were being handled and, and really what ultimately it's a little bit of monday morning quarterbacking, but the, the justice department and the fbi way underestimated initially how many people would enter the capitol. it's upwards of 3500. and the scope of this, you know, that they were thinking from the beginning was about 800. that's something that they could have handled. and that's just not where all of this ended up. but, you know, it was, i think, especially learning that the acting deputy attorney general was had tried to bring this up

to s.d.n.y was shocking because even for sdny, folks, that's a pretty bold move to suggest that the attack on the capitol should actually be prosecuted out of out of new york. i'm not sure how many how folks in d.c. necessarily felt about that in the field. office here and in the us attorney's office here, which ultimately took took the guiding hand and directed how all of these cases were handled while they still had a lot of opposition from out in the field within the fbi, over over these cases, you know, there were just field offices where you could not get progress to be made. people were sitting on their hands. so this is i mean, something i think that divided the fbi, just as it sort of divided the nation. nicole. >> but it didn't seem to divide mr. bove based on this new reporting. and i guess what i'm trying to understand is, are you aware of any fbi leaders or individuals who were fired for less than this, quote, full throated support, end quote, in the words of mr. o'leary, this action quote, bove attended weekly morning meetings about january 6th cases chaired by the senior fbi official in new york,

the group of prosecutors and law enforcement agents planned and prioritized efforts to find and arrest the january 6th defendants based on intelligence coming in from all around the country. and this email gave very clear direction to aggressively work to support fbi's efforts to write warrants. pen registers. et cetera. referring to fbi technology that records incoming phone numbers. are you aware of any fbi leadership or agents who were fired for less than that? >> well, the fbi, you know, had the few people in the leadership who have been pushed out right now. it's sort of people wondering who is going to be on the chopping block, because we haven't seen those necessarily mass firings yet. but they've gathered this list of individuals who participated in these cases. i think the most direct comparison would probably be those assistant u.s. attorneys who were shown the door and kicked out because they touched january 6th cases. those explicitly were individuals who were hired for these january 6th cases initially, and they were hired as term prosecutors, meaning that they were only expected to be there for two years. but often those jobs turn permanent. but what happens sort

of after the election is a lot of these individuals were assigned to other, other cases, right. so you had a lot of individuals who, despite trump's claim that they really want to crack down on crime in d.c, who were being trained and had in fact been trained and were set on inauguration day, in fact, to be, or rather, the week after inauguration day to be going to court to handle violent crime cases in superior court, because d.c. is a little bit unique in that it handles both federal, federal and sort of more, quote unquote, local crimes. and so that's that's what they were set to do. but of course, all of those individuals were pushed out and fired. and, you know, i watched them march in one day and have to turn in all of their, their, their computers and, and bring all of their stuff out. you know, that's what that's what happened in the first days of this administration. >> i mean, david kelly, i would bet my last dollar that there are agents on the list and there are prosecutors who have done

what ryan rowley just described, who did less and did it with less enthusiasm than mr. beauvais. >> well, given. >> the. >> number of cases. >> and the pretty explicit descriptions. >> that we. >> see in. >> the reporting. >> i think it's a pretty good bet. >> so what's really going on? >> that's that's a loaded question. i'm not quite. sure that anybody's really figuring out that emile probably knows what's going on. but look, i think. >> there's a huge challenge. >> here for. >> the for. >> the. >> department and how they handle this, because, you know, look, i'm an institutionalist and i have great faith in the institution. i think it's just demoralizing and disheartening when if you're within. >> one of. >> those institutions and there is a false narrative that is. promising actions such as. >> these. >> it's one thing to reform an institution. institutions need to be reviewed and it needs to be evergreen. you need to completely evaluate yourself, and i think it's completely legitimate for this administration to do that. but to do it based on a false

narrative with pretext, i think, kind of defeats the whole purpose, and it kind of creates yet a whole nother dimension to the institution that needs to be reformed. >> well, listen, your giant and i hesitate to push back on anything you just said, but they're not interested in reforming the fbi. they're interested in remaking it into a political weapon for trump's use. and i think one of the one of the challenges now, and one of the reasons this bové reporting is. so it's the most stunning thing i've read since the election, frankly, that the person in charge of doing the most historic damage to the department of justice is the person who did the thing that he's firing people who did the t he's firing people for doing. you know, it's unbelievable. >> and it's not the first time that somebody in trump world has been, you know, a naysayer or somebody who offends him. the vice president case in chief. but later. >> jd vance called him america's hitler. i write it down every

day. so i quoted accurately. >> but then comes back and is able to get back in his graces. my guess would be that the narrative here is going to be, yes, emil did all those things, but he left the bubble of the justice department. he went on to the side of the defense for a particular defendant, and he came and he saw the light. and so that now he is in trump world, and he realizes that everything he says about january 6th is true, which, you know, that i don't know what other narrative you can come with this other than to get them, you know, for the president to say, i get he did all that, but he's a great man. he did a great job, and i'm going to move past that. >> so that's the president's perspective. and i think that's probably right. although i don't know that they see the light. they seem to see the dark. what does it do to the people who were in that meeting with him and the people that he now leads. >> i think it's completely demoralizing. i think, within the southern district community,

there is a tremendous unrest, a lot of torn, a lot of feelings about what to do. i think most people, you know, there was some talk about mass exodus, mostly in connection, not just with this, but more so with the adams case, but then a recognition that, you know, that's not where they're about. they are like me when i was an institutionalist. and you want to save the institution, walking away from it is not going to do that. we need to stick it out and really kind of rise to the level here where we can navigate whatever it is this administration is trying to do, whether it's reform or what you say is maybe it's a deconstruction. and then how does a reconstruction look? can we be part of that in a productive way? >> say more about folks inside s.d.n.y contemplating a mass exodus after the adams case. >> well, look, with the adams case. look, let me let me say a couple of things to preface that, which is, as u.s.

attorney, i think, you know, you have lots of big cases and important cases. and i always found when you got a lot of smart, smart lawyers around and you're all doing the right thing for the right reasons, basically have blinders on, and the decisions in the cases are easy. what's challenging for the u.s. attorney in the southern district of new york is navigating the relationship with the main justice, and my argument always was, you need us. it's almost like jack nicholson. you want me on that wall, right? because when things hit the fan, you want the justice department wants to be able to say, we've got this independent branch that's going to handle this, and it's going to handle it well. and i think that if you take that and cast it aside, you probably are going to end up regretting having done that. and i think that this decision and the way it was made runs the risk of doing that, if it hasn't already. and i think it's obviously, you know, demoralizing for the people who

are there who have always, you know, despite the false narratives that are out there, they're doing the right things for the right reason. and they built the case. it was a case and which is significant here. this case was not dismissed outright. it was dismissed without prejudice, which means they can come back and do it. if jay clayton, once he's in office, wants to do that. it was not. despite the mayor's attorney's statements. it was not decided on the merits. it was other considerations, considerations which, by the way, highly unusual to be considered, particularly in the justice department, especially in the southern district of new york. >> are you part of something corrupt if you stay? >> no, and i wouldn't. >> i mean, i mean, i guess what i'm trying to say is it's pretty clear that the case was dropped. as long as adams cooperates with mass deportations. and adams has been reporting from new york city hall correspondents that adams told people not to disparage trump. if you brought

the case, you believe the case is righteous and you go along with something that's clearly a political patronage. what are you a part of? >> well, you're part of an institution that's been tainted. and the question is, can i continue in my service and maintain? and, you know, i have an oath and i'm going to i'm going to live by that. i guess your concern is, well, how will others perceive me? and i think i think it's that the mindset typically is i really don't care what other people think. i know i'm doing the right thing. i'm not looking for. thanks. i'm not looking for praise. i'm looking to fulfill my oath and do the right thing. and if at the end of the day, i my filling that role doesn't help preserve this institution, i did what i could. whereas if you leave, i think their thinking is if ieave, well then who is going to go in my place? somebody who doesn't meet the same standards that traditionally have been required to get into that office and hold

the same values? possibly. and so what am i doing? the institution, if i stay, what am i doing for the institution if i leave? >> so if you stay because you decide, i mean, this is the decision that countless people make, right? and then they rip. jeff berman stayed over and over again. he was asked to and then he gets fired. but i guess what i'm trying to understand is if you stay, do you really stay thinking that eric adams is the only prosecution you're asked to drop for a political favor? >> well, you'll have to see how things unfold. >> what do you think? i mean, you've you've sort of studied. >> criminals and criminal acts, i think. i think, look, the decision here, it i don't think the decision in the adams case came out exactly the way the department would have preferred it. and i think that's the case because i think the southern district people went down to washington and made their case in a very vigorous and made robust arguments that made it very difficult for the department to do something more

than what they did. i mean, they couldn't have them dismiss it outright, and that would they didn't do that. and so i give a lot of credit to the folks in the southern district for prevailing on the department to make things not as bad as it might have otherwise been. >> i guess from the outside it just looks very clearly like the southern district of new york, known as the sovereign district, i think even to people not in the system was broken by donald trump. and it's and i hear what you're saying, it wasn't as bad as it could have been. it sounds pretty catastrophic. >> catastrophic is a good word. it's a big word. but i will keep the faith that it survives. >> we need faith. >> fingers crossed. but it's a huge hit. look with. it's always been a huge tension with the u.s. attorney and the main justice and maintaining that sovereignty. it doesn't just come with a click of the fingers. jeff berman, under the first trump administration, it brought that challenge to a new height. this well surpasses that. >> yeah. okay. thank you for

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>> now is the time, so we're going to. >> do it. >> settle in the rachel maddow show weeknights at 9:00 on msnbc. >> what we do. >> is try to. >> cut right to the bone of what we're seeing in washington that day. claire, because you're not at the table. i'll bring you in on the conversation that we had over the break. the reason you and i have been talking about defending. first it was it was, you know, mueller, right. and the mueller investigators because they were going to let their their report do the talking. they were never going to indict donald trump. and then it was letting merrick garland's justice department speak for itself. and then merrick garland turned it over to jack smith. and the reason we have to talk about defending the department of justice is because trump has destroyed the credibility of the rule of law completely among his base. and why this matters is

because if the truth and the facts are not valued by enough americans to say that can't be a political organization, they have to follow the facts wherever they go. then there is no rule of law in this country, and we no longer live in a democracy. tell me where you see this effort, this very flagrant effort by a man who described the january 6th cases as a, quote, priority to purge the fbi and the department of justice of everyone else who touched them. >> well. >> let me for a minute circle back to the dismissal of the case against. eric adams, and. >> i. >> listen, i feel for david kelly. >> he loves. >> that office, and i understand why. >> and he has great respect. >> for the men and women who have. worked there with a great deal of. >> integrity and ethics. >> for many, many years, widely respected within the larger. >> criminal justice system. but let. >> me just say what this dismissal is. it's corruption. because in the letter he sent, as david kelly wells knows, there'on one reason. as a former prosecutor who spent a

lot of time making decisions on what cases to file, making decisions on what cases to dismiss. there's only one reason to dismiss a case that has been filed, and that is because. >> of the. >> strength of. >> the legal. >> arguments contained within and most important, the quality and quantity of the evidence. that's it. >> you're supposed to not have. there's a reason that. >> lady justice. has a. blindfold on. >> you're not supposed to consider anything else. it's the law and the facts. and that's what every real. >> prosecutor in this country knows, including this guy, emil bove, who has lost his integrity on his way to worship trump. and what he said in that letter is they did not consider the strength of the legal theories or the evidence, didn't. >> even consider it. he just. >> made up some stuff. and said, you know, dismiss the case. >> and is these.

>> guys, you know, musk throws around corruption and fraud and all these sentences without any evidence of it, nothing that would ever pass muster, even at a warrant desk in a small municipality doing nothing but ordinance violations. he throws around that all the federal employees are corrupt and fraud. you know, i've been away for a while. i took. >> a break and. >> you can tell i'm raring to go. but i mean, these guys. >> he dismissed the head of. >> the ethics office today. he dismissed the case against the wwe. big, big shot made them ditch that case. he said to quit enforcing the foreign corruption act, telling all the big corporations it's now okay to bribe foreign officials. >> and this is all on the day. >> that we have record inflation of groceries, of the highest rate of inflation on groceries in three years. give me a break. i mean, it is really bad. and i don't know what all those really good prosecutors at s.d.n.y are going to do, but i guarantee you

they're sick to their stomach. >> david jolly. >> i think it's all. >> dirty. >> gross and transactional. we have a reality show president. >> who is. >> surrounding himself by. >> people who. >> are incapable and unqualified. >> and i think we. >> can isolate emil bove, we can isolate the. >> eric adams case. >> we can we can figure out all that. >> and there's a variety. >> of posture. >> of. >> the people involved. you have u.s. attorneys. >> who are. >> standing in the breach. trying to figure out what to do with the. corrupt president. you have people like emil bove who apparently are caving. >> you have marco rubio and jd vance and tulsi gabbard and. everybody who's. >> coming around. >> but but the. >> nexus of all. >> this and the. darkness of. >> all. >> this and the corruptness of. >> all this, the corruption. >> of. >> it. >> is with donald. >> trump. >> and i think. >> if you take the eric adams. >> case. >> it's easy. >> to look. >> at eric adams. >> and say, mayor. >> adams went to. >> mar-a-lago and. >> he looks guilty by the indictment. >> i mean that, frankly, the s.d.n.y.

>> press conference on that was a. remarkable moment where. >> where he led. >> the public through how. >> the office got there, like. >> to. >> detail it was remarkable. >> it's like, how do you how could this guy ever be acquitted? >> all of those. >> transactions occur. >> but the root. >> cause of the corruption. >> is donald trump himself. i will. >> say this. >> every day we. >> are in. >> a constitutional crisis. we should. >> not be tepid about saying that. >> and it doesn't matter. >> what it. >> is touching on a given day. donald trump is corrupt. >> he's a corrupt president. he's a feeble president who. >> is an easy mark. i guess that's the other subplot to this. he is such an easy mark. eric adams. goes to mar-a-lago. eric adams pleads his case. donald trump says i'll hold something over him and do it without prejudice. and so now he has to respond. >> to me, emil. >> bove i'm going to use to, to wash out all the prosecutors, even though he touched j6. >> himself, vladimir putin today. i mean, what. >> we saw with. >> all of the russian. >> revolution. >> the pivot by donald trump on russian foreign policy. >> today. >> donald trump is. >> corrupt. >> but he's also such an.

>> easy, feeble mark for people within our. >> domestic politics, within. >> the. >> law enforcement. >> community, within the. >> prosecutorial community and. >> on the world stage. >> we are. in a crisis. >> and we should not be tepid about. >> saying that. >> what happens next? >> so i. >> you know, a lot of people are. blaming democrats for this moment. >> it is not the. >> democrats fault that republicans. >> are criming. >> it is not the democrats fault that donald. >> trump is corrupt. >> it is not democrats fault the. >> republicans are. >> going along with the constitutional crisis. >> we have to. >> push back on it. >> we have to oppose. >> what is happening. we have to. >> propose new solutions. we have to rely. >> on the courts. >> we have to rely on people of good faith. >> the last. >> thing we can do is let fatigue become defeat. we can get through the next 3 or 4 years of this. if we stand together. >> as a country. >> you get the last word. >> well, exactly what i was saying, which is that's why these folks should not be be

leaving. we need them. and they've taken an oath and they should stay there and fulfill the oath despite what's going on around them. >> how do we help them? i think a lot of our viewers, i actually don't think people are fatigued. i think it's as bad as you articulated. someone said yesterday, it's 55 times worse than anyone can imagine, and i think that's a good number. i'll use that. but i look, this is what we do, like this. this is and our viewers are highly engaged. but what can ordinary people do to support the people who want to stay in there and hold the line against what david just, i think, accurately described as corruption. >> i think i think it's try to be well informed about what's really going on and be very thoughtful about where your source of information is coming from, and to avoid false narratives and to avoid misinformation and to and to share that with people. >> it's so interesting. i mean, that's really how we got here, right? too many people took trump up on the offer to not believe what they see and not believe what they hear. just believe me. he said that in 2017. on that note, we're going to continue to call on you. so i

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>> it is. >> hard to understand. coming from the country that defeated the soviet union in the cold war, that we would put a woman in charge of our entire intelligence community who has shown. >> over and over. >> repeated interest in vladimir putin, taking. his side of the argument, wondering what he's done right. and our intelligence community has done wrong. >> can you put it that way? that was michigan senator elissa slotkin. she's a former cia agent laying out and articulating the case against tulsi gabbard, who russian state media describes as, quote, their girl to be the american director of national intelligence. of course, she came up short. the united states senate, controlled by republicans, confirmed tulsi gabbard to lead those 18 different intelligence agencies

responsible for thwarting threats to americans here and abroad. she was sworn in a few moments ago. gabbard was confirmed by a vote of 52 to 48, with all 47 democrats, as well as mitch mcconnell voting against her. a little bit of irony for the man who used to control the republican party. now finding himself casting what is basically an ineffective dissent to oppose a n who russia is cheering for. within an hour of gabbard's confirmation, donald trump announced that he and vladimir putin would immediately begin negotiations to end the war in ukraine. we're back with claire and david. claire. we need more. claire. >> yeah. i can't tell you how disappointed i am in my republican. my former republican colleagues who many of whom know better. and, you know, i, i think there's a certain irony that i would quote mitch mcconnell today. mitch mcconnell said it's her judgment. do you

really want somebody in charge of this really sensitive and important part of protecting our national security, someone who's had such poor judgment in the past? i mean, all these people claim they've, you know, i mean, whether it's rfk saying now he's okay with vaccines or whether it's kash patel, you know, trying to convince people that he hasn't said that he wants to tear down the fbi building and make it a museum. you know, forget all these people, like trying to disavow who they were. this shows her lack of judgment. and lisa murkowski knows that. susan collins knows that. todd young knows that. bill cassidy knows that. you know these guys, they all know it. and they wouldn't vote for her no matter what. if she was nominated for this by a democrat. and the reason she was a democrat is because a lot of her views of the world were really far left. so, i mean, these guys have lost their minds. they've just lost

their minds. i don't know what else to say. >> david. >> in a bubble, you'd like to. >> think. >> mitch mcconnell. >> is. >> having a john mccain. >> moment, but mitch mcconnell always. >> seems to disappoint. and john mccain rarely did. >> i think we can't overlook the real. >> significant national security. geopolitical story that happened this morning. >> and for. >> much as we see. >> the. >> trump administration's chaos today was. >> clearly so. >> well coordinated. >> tulsi gabbard. >> is. >> confirmed, while pete hegseth is addressing. >> nato. >> saying ukraine. >> has. >> to give up their sovereign. territory to russia, while. >> donald trump is on the. phone with vladimir. putin engaging in a prisoner. >> swap. >> but also saying we're going to reach some type of peace agreement. and by the. >> way, and had two summits. >> and have. >> two summits, we're. >> going to have state state visits. >> by putin and trump. today was the day. >> not surprising, right? >> we knew all this was happening. this is part of where maga is. but boy, a pivot in american foreign policy. and i think in mitch mcconnell's vote,

he sees. that to claire's point. all these other senators see it. >> as well. >> they just collapsed and fell in line. but in terms of our own national security. and in. terms of pivoting, america's. posture on the world stage, today was a heavy, heavy day just a few weeks into the trump administration. >> well, let me ask both of you. i mean, i, i hear what you're saying, claire. i'm about four years beyond being able to be disappointed by the republicans because i think this is who they've become. let me ask you. i mean, i think most of them know better. there are a couple who maybe seem to not, but the vast majority of them know better. so they decided to do this. why? >> because donald trump won in a more convincing fashion than most people anticipated. because he won in spite of all the things he has done and shown the american people about his character and integrity, because their party, the base of their

party, is enthralled with this man. some of the people i mentioned have elections coming up in states that they could easily be defeated in a primary by a pro maga republican. i'm sure that part of susan collins calculation is she became convinced that tulsi gabbard was not going to do something she liked. and she knows that if a maga republican got nominated in maine and beat her in a primary, that they would be defeated in the general, because that's a state that kamala harris won and joe biden won. and it is it's a state that susan collins has held on to because she has been thoughtful and moderate in many instances, not all, but in many instances. so i think it's this primary coming up for many of them. and the pressure they feel that their party has been basically the party they knew has disappeared in terms of issues like how we treat our

enemies like russia. that is no longer whether it's free trade or hawkish views on foreign defense or standing up for the rule of law. you know, the republican party is not who the republican party used to be. and i think they're all searching for a home and are uncomfortable in the home they find themselves in. >> so politics, which is what i thought. and that's just pathetic. it's like it's like shining your shoes on the deck of the titanic. susan collins wants to make sure her, you know, heels don't get stabbed as she's going down underwater. it's absolutely. i mean, i thought that was the reason. i wasn't sure, but that's that's sick. they're there for six years so that every now and again they do the right thing for thent. that's i'm sure you're correct. but that that's a tragedy. we're going to ask both of you to stick around a little bit longer. we'll be right back. >> hi. i'm not sure i'm amy poehler. >> we are rolling here. >> hello, i'm seth meyers. tracy morgan. >> kate mckinnon.

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instance of it ever happening, even in the height of other controversial military decisions and moments. david jolly. >> i think the. >> folks we see there protesting hegseth have. more courage and mettle and resolve than susan collins and lisa murkowski and todd young. >> and others. you know, i agree with everything claire said before the. >> break about the. why some of these people fell in line. but i don't think we need to hold back. these are weak, cowardly leaders. and when you get elected, i felt i realized maybe not everybody else, but many people. >> i'm sure. >> you have this kind of awesome responsibility of assuming the public trust. and you either lead or you follow. collins, murkowski, young, everybody else, all. >> those. >> republicans, they followed those protesters. right now they're leading. and i think. >> you know, your earlier question, what. >> do we do about it? when you enter a campaign, you enter into it with a belief that you might prevail. you can't really see it. but, you know, maybe there's a pathway. and i think that's

where a lot of americans are right now. now is the time to commit. the one tool we all have are our voices. that's it. if you're a senator, you're a protester. you're sitting here at the set. you have your voice. and what democratic senators are doing right now is trying to move public opinion with their voice. >> it's the. >> one. >> tool that's their best tool. right, right, right. >> and there's so much that trump is stepping into that that the american people know is wrong. and they just need the voices of leadership to say, let's go. let's go take the hill. >> let me can you put the picture back up of the. let me ask you, claire, to help us explain. so if you are a military family, most of the time, certainly most of their instances you live on or near the base. your kids go to school at the school. you have so much skin in the game. you have so much at risk to do this. they're not hiding. they're not nameless blobs on social media. they are standing there as pete hegseth, the only defense secretary in american history to be opposed

by bipartisan senators. there has never, ever, ever, ever been a moment where the military has been led by someone for whom democrats and republicans thought was unqualified and unacceptable until this moment. and so i guess the reason i press and try to understand why a few more senators couldn't get there is because these folks are out there because they know that the person they're protesting was opposed by democrats and republicans. and if they are unafraid to stand there in the light of day on a base where their kids probably go to school, where they probably get all their housing and all their meals, why can't that inform and steel the spines of more senators? >> yeah. and if you noticed, nicole, at the beginning of the tape running, you could see a man in uniform taking their pictures. so they stood there while someone in uniform. actually, if you look to the

edge of the picture, you'll see a soldier with, with a camera, with his phone, taking pictures of everyone who's there. so you're right there he is taking the picture of them. and you're right, it takes a lot of courage because the military, you know, you don't stick your head out. you you follow orders, you follow command and to protest. the secretary of defense, as a military family member on a foreign base is quite a statement. but they know they know this whole thing on dei is just a cooked up deal. i mean, this is a military that prides itself on how it is integrated and how it is pushed back. i got a guy behind me back there, harry truman, standing by the cookies. he integrated. he integrated the armed services against popular opinion. he did it even though the polling said not to. and the men and women of

color that have served our country bravely endured horrible things as the military was integrated. but we survived it. and leaders have grown. leaders of color have grown up through the military and been great leaders in our military. and the idea that somehow trying to emphasize how important it is that our military and by the way, our military, so many of our volunteers are coming from distressed economic families because they're looking for a career. they're looking for a way up, a way to have training and education. so it's really bad that that they have tried to besmirch the efforts to diversify the military in the way they have, and the military families know it. >> yeah. i think this first attack was against the actual utterance of the words. our diversity is our strength. he he attacked that. claire, we're so happy you're back. you don't get

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relinquished their constitutional duties over to an unelected bureaucrat, someone who no one went out to vote for. and absolutely, he is occupying the oval office, as we saw yesterday. and that is a first for me to see someone occupying the oval office who's never actually been elected to the oval office and actually answering more questions than the person that allegedly got elected. >> hi again everybody. it's now 5:00 in new york. yesterday's appearance in the oval office shored up and revealed outed elon musk's outsized role in trump's white house. new york times referring it to musk enjoying the pinnacle of power by standing there and doing all the talking. next to the resolute desk, that unbridled display of power bestowed upon the unelected billionaire which was him, along with his doge

team, infiltrating federal agencies and gutting them, that was all scrutinized today at the very first hearing held by the house oversight doge subcommittee. democrats on the committee, just like you just heard, our friend, congresswoman jasmine crockett, do, laid into the billionaire's conduct and actions. here's ranking member melanie stansbury of new mexico, addressing the stakes of all this. we can't just sit here today and pretend like everything is normal, and that this is just another hearing on government efficiency. i mean, all you have. to do. >> is. >> look across. >> this. >> room and see that it is not a normal hearing. because while we're sitting. >> here, donald. >> trump and elon musk are recklessly and illegally. dismantling the federal government. shuttering federal agencies, firing federal. >> workers, withholding. >> funds vital to the safety and well-being of our communities, and hacking our sensitive data systems. trump actually signed a new executive order yesterday, giving elon musk more authority,

requiring federal agencies to work with doge to make large scale workforce reductions. meanwhile, in response to elon musk's aggression, the courts have been really the only guardrail keeping the actions of doge in check as much as the courts can. a fact supreme court justice sonia sotomayor spoke to an event last night. court decisions stand whether one particular person chooses to abide by them or not. it doesn't change the foundation that it's still a court order that someone will respect at some point. that's the faith i have in our system and that other actors in the system, whether it's congress or others, will follow the law because it's what we all take an oath of office to do. >> the justice was also quick to

point out the limits on the power of the executive branch. >> our founders were hell bent on ensuring that we didn't have a monarchy, and the first way they thought of that was to give congress the power of the purse. and because that's an incredible power. >> it's a power. elon musk wants to take away his answer to the pushback from the courts. he's now calling for this, quote, an immediate wave of judicial impeachments, an idea he posted on social media earlier. it's where we start the hour with democratic congressman robert garcia of california. he was a part of today's first doge subcommittee hearing. what is doge? and it's sort of delicious that the republicans now have to defend this, according to the polls, very unpopular new agency. >> well, look, i think. >> what it's clear. is that elon musk has been given the keys to do absolutely whatever he wants

across the federal government and our agencies. this is a bunch of unelected teenagers and essentially college graduates that are running around from agency to agency, causing real harm to our institutions. and i think we've got to be very, very clear with the american public that what we have right now in the line of fire is the department of education, which is supporting children with disabilities. it's usaid, of course, which is providing foreign. aid to poor people and starving people in countries around the world. it's now attacks on medicare and medicaid. and so doge is nothing to do with government efficiency, but everything about collecting as much savings as possible so that elon musk can give himself and his billionaire friends and companies an enormous tax cut. and so this is all about them essentially raiding the federal treasury and giving that money to themselves. it's a it is both a real scary moment, and it's greatly harming our institutions. >> let me just establish some facts, because they have not

been transparent at all. what is the pretense of doge? is it is it an i mean, why isn't there even an effort in your understanding to go in with forensic auditors? because i think even democrats would have a hard time resisting efforts, right, to cut out waste. something everybody is for. >> yeah. i mean, look, i mean, the way not to cut waste is to fire all of the independent auditors and inspector generals whose job it is to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse. i mean, that should tell you enough about this, this effort. but i think what's really, i think, really dangerous about this moment is essentially, elon musk has said that he needs to eliminate 1 to $2 trillion with a t from the federal budget. what he's trying to do is because he knows he needs those savings, what he calls savings, to give these tax breaks away. that's why he's attacking so many of the institutions. and he also wants to ensure that there's no one to check him on his federal contracts, that his companies continue to

essentially get all of, all of these resources from the federal government, and that there is no one to actually go after his unconstitutional and illegal actions. let's not forget that many of these agencies, including usaid, were actually conducting investigations on musk and his company. so this is about protecting himself and getting himself more resources. >> had usaid developed any information or had that investigation only been in its early stages? >> i mean, look, that investigation was still in its early stages, but they they were they were doing work. we've we've heard from folks inside the agency. they were collecting information. they were on their way to a serious investigation. and now that investigation, thanks to donald trump and elon musk, doesn't exist. and so that is the danger of the moment that we are in. and clearly, we need the public to stand up and to speak out forcefully like they did during the federal grants that they tried to freeze. the public came back and pushed back. we need the courts to do

their job, and we need congress to match the energy of the people on the ground. and i think that's something that's really important, is we need to bring the fire to this fight. and i think there's a lot of members that are doing that. i think our leader, jeffries, is focused on ensuring that we are bringing this to the republicans and to the maga majority, and we've got to take on elon musk and call him out every single day. >> what are elon musk's people doing and who are they? are they who are they and what are they doing right now? >> well. >> look, i think what we know it is public record. essentially, it's a team of folks that have been loyal to elon musk, have worked in his various companies. they're engineers and other folks and programmers that are going around to our agencies. they're entering our agencies and accessing people's, you know, essentially private information, their data, they're accessing medical records, they're accessing people's student loan information. also, that elon musk can essentially provide some sort of secretive

effort to save dollars for the american public, which we know is an absolute joke and a disgrace. the truth is that we don't know exactly what they're doing. we don't know what information they're accessing, and what we're supposed to do are being asked to do is just to trust elon musk and donald trump. i mean, that is ridiculous that we should somehow just trust the person with the most federal contracts, with the most federal contracts in the government. the person that spent more money than any single person in the last election to elect donald trump and republicans. so, i mean, there is fire and smoke. we can see it in front of us, which is why we have to act aggressively and continue to oppose these efforts. >> you have some public opinion as the wind at your back. let me share this. musk is very unpopular. based on the latest polling. this is from yougov. he's at -19 percentage points among moderates. he's at -18 percentage points among independents. and overall all respondents. he's got a -9%

approval rating. to listen to him talk yesterday about democracy and unelected bureaucrats, he's really the only unelected bureaucrats with his hands on the steering wheel. i wonder if he if you've asked to meet with him. i mean, do you how do democrats in the minority break through and get folks that you described as teenagers and coders and programmers away from americans personal data? >> well, we have actually asked elon musk to come in front of our oversight committee and testify to answer questions. republicans, of course, have refused. they're in the majority that vote. we voted in unison to do that. we've asked, of course, elon musk series of questions. members of this caucus have tried to get information from the white house, and we've gotten absolutely nothing. donald trump is protecting elon musk and allowing him to do whatever the hell he wants to do to our agencies, which is so important as to why we've got to be loud in the street, protesting, essentially showing up at these agencies, which we've been doing, where they

show up at trying to stop some of these meetings and taking action in our committees through any legislative action that we can. look, there is a reality. we understand the republicans control the white house, the us house and the senate. we understand that that's a reality we have to live in. but it shouldn't stop us fighting as hard as we can to ensure that we get as many answers as we can get. and i think the american public, like you just said, they understand that elon musk is a danger to this country. >> i wonder if it's an important piece to make sure people understand that with his budget, donald trump could have made any cuts he wanted. i mean, are you sure? are you sure that that i mean, what are the other scenarios for? why a bunch of programmers and coders would be inside these agencies when the budget document and russ vogt wrote all project? i mean, they had a plan to cut all these agencies. what what are the other sort of theories about what he's actually doing inside the systems of all these agencies? >> well, i think that's what's

really scary. i mean, there are a lot of thoughts about what they could be doing. i think the idea that they could be damaging data so that elon musk can come in and save the day with him and him and his private companies or his billionaire friends so that they can do things better. there's conversations and real, real, thoughtful people in this country that are really concerned, myself included, about the foreign influence that could be happening, whether our information is somehow being sold to foreign governments or foreign adversaries is concerning. we don't have answers on that. but more importantly, data we know is critical and powerful and valuable. so them getting their hands on the data of the american public is a way for elon musk to make enormous amount of money so that he can fund all of his, you know, trips to mars and whatever else he wants to do at the expense of working class americans. >> as you continue to ask questions and pursue these investigations, please come back and keep us updated. congressman

robert garcia, thank you for joining us. >> of course. >> right now, let me bring in to our coverage voting rights attorney, founder of democracy docket, mark elias, and former acting assistant attorney general for national security at the justice department, now an msnbc legal analyst. mary mccord. mark elias, here's the piece that i that i don't get. you can cut the budget when you're the president. you you have a couple of months after your swearing in to i think march is usually when you present your budget document. all that project 2025 existed for, for four years in waiting was to craft that document. they basically had it done and on a website. so i don't buy that this is about cutting waste. also, if you're cutting waste, you go in with auditors, not the congressman described them as programmers. what do you think is going on? >> yeah, i think there are two agendas. going on here. one which is. >> decidedly, i. >> think, in in. favor with the doj's folks and, and, and their

supporters is to simply. break government just. >> to. have it. >> not. >> work is to. >> abolish departments. >> defund programs, just force government officials out. and just. >> literally, you know, slim it down to such an extent that it no longer works. >> and that is, i think, kind. >> of. >> one thing, but in tension. with that, but equally as important. >> and i and. >> people need to hear this is what i think donald trump wants. which is donald trump wants to refill the government with his cronies. right. he's not interested in a smaller government. he is interested in a weaponized government. so the reason why donald trump is not proposing a budget to decrease the size of the federal government is he doesn't want a decreased size of the federal government. he wants just as many fbi agents as there are now. he just wants those fbi agents loyal to him. he wants just as many people in these departments as there are now. he just wants them doing his bidding and singing his praises at every turn. and so that's why there is a tension between the

two things you see going on. one which is an effort to break government. the other is an effort to weaponize government. >> mary, i want to ask you about elon musk, who i'd actually never seen speak until yesterday. he spoke live during my hours. lucky me. and i watched him. his adorable son seemed to capture donald trump's attention, but elon musk said things about democracy that were that were shocking. i mean, the person acting so undemocratic that independents, moderates and overall voters, including republicans, have a -9 to -20% approval rating of him is elon musk. and this is what he did today. he reposted a tweet by an influencer named laura loomer, which accused u.s. district judge john mcconnell, junior, of a conflict of interest. the post claim that judge mcconnell's daughter, katherine, works at the department of education and agency. musk and the trump administration are considering defunding the connection, according to laura loomer should

have prompted the judge to recuse himself. he's targeting justices he's tweeting today about impeaching judges, and the only person clearly acting outside the bounds of the law is elon musk. where's the where's the how broken is the system when no member of the republican party will say that out loud? well. >> it's a real travesty. >> i mean, this is a continuation of intimidation and threats that we've. seen elon musk. engage in against, you know, all kinds of people he perceives. >> and donald trump perceives. as political enemies. >> that includes members of the. >> media, that. >> includes elected officials. and now, of course, it includes judges. and we've seen more even than the examples. that you just gave attacks by both. musk and others. >> on, you know, in that same. >> milieu, laura. >> loomer and. >> those types. we've seen these attacks. >> now. >> particularly over.

>> these last. >> several days. >> as courts. >> and the judges have sort of become sort of the bulwark. >> against this. >> lawless. >> executive activity. >> that we've. >> seen ever. >> since january. >> 20th, just almost minute by minute new actions. taken under. >> this expansive reading. >> of executive. authority that. >> oftentimes violate the constitution and other. >> times directly violate statutes. >> and judges. >> are doing what. >> judges are, are sworn to. >> do, which is decide the. >> cases in. >> front of them. >> based. >> on the facts. >> and the law. >> and it is up to the judicial branch, as the supreme court has held for over. >> 200 years, to decide what the law is. >> it's not. >> up to donald. >> trump or elon musk. or anyone. >> else who's not. >> part of the judicial branch. and so that's, you know, that's what is causing this backfire. >> and this. >> really elevated.

>> threatening rhetoric. >> i mean, to suggest. that judges who. >> rule against the. >> administration should. be impeached, judges who rule. >> against the administration. there's a there's an avenue to disagree with. >> the judicial ruling. >> that's called an appeal. >> and if. >> ultimately. >> through the. >> appeals, let's. >> say this has to do with violating. >> a statute. >> if the appeals don't work. >> your. >> way. >> you can also try going to. >> congress and asking. >> for. >> a statute to. >> be changed. when we're. talking about the. >> constitution. >> that's the constitution. >> and the courts have the last word. >> and so this is really. >> i. >> think. trying to. intimidate judges, trying. >> to get them to potentially. >> cow to the administration in the next. >> case in. >> front of them, be out of fear. because what happens with these kinds. >> of attacks. are threats. >> online, sometimes physical threats not only to. >> judges but to. >> their families. >> judge tanya chutkan was swatted. politico reported. mark elias, judge engoron was threatened ceaselessly. judge

mershon was at the receiving end of a lot of threats from donald trump. it has happened before. judge esther salas, judge, was assassinated by someone harassing her, unrelated to politics, but a disgruntled litigant. these are human beings, and the rule of law has been under assault for the nine years that donald trump has been on the world stage. and i guess i wonder i wonder where you think we're heading. >> so i do have to say, i've been a critic of the judiciary. i felt it has not held donald trump accountable. i thought in the criminal cases they gave him way too much latitude. i have been impressed. we have seen judge. after judge after judge. judges appointed by ronald reagan. judges appointed by donald trump, judges appointed by barack obama. right. we have seen judges of all ideologies, all geographies across a range of issues rule against them. so much so that the white house spokesperson today began the press conference by noting that they have lost 1212 cases so

far. and i and i think that that number keeps, keeps growing. so as mary said, this is what courts do, right? it is the job of the judiciary to determine what the law is and to apply the law to the facts and to check violations of the law by the executive branch. it is an absolute national shame what the republicans in congress are doing. they are a national disgrace because of checks and balances. should also be the house and the senate standing up for their prerogatives. and mitch and i'm sorry and john thune and speaker johnson have literally turned over those, those chambers to donald trump. but the judges are doing their job. and as long as they keep doing their job, you know, donald trump can complain and elon musk can posture. but, you know, the courts may wind up yet protecting us. >> they don't scare the way john thune and speaker johnson do. i need both of you to stick around much more with mark and mary

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msnbc. >> we're back with mark and mary. mary, we spoke at length with david kelly earlier about the strain, and i wonder if you can just take us inside the specific national security strain on a day like today when trump is on the phone with putin, when trump's cabinet members are saying things very ominous. if you're president zelensky of ukraine. and tulsi gabbard, sales to confirmation to head dni. >> this has to be. >> alarming to the. >> career men. >> and women in our intelligence. >> agencies. >> as well. >> as in the other national security departments. >> and agencies. including my. >> former colleagues in the national security division. >> of. >> the department of justice. i mean, they've spent years in. >> many cases, decades. >> you know, learning as much as. >> they can about. >> the. >> threats that are posed by people like.

>> vladimir putin and learning. >> as much as they. can to help the u.s. protect its. national security. >> protect our. >> intelligence collection. >> protect our. >> intelligence sources and methods, protect our military. and so these types of public, you know, public statements and publicly known things and the and the threat from, of course, someone like tulsi gabbard as potentially the head of all of our intelligence agencies. these have to be very alarming within the departments and agencies who have whose, you know, main focus, their main job every single day is to protect the national security of the country. and i'm sure that many of them feel, you know, really disappointed in congress for not pushing harder with respect to some of these nominees and not raising some of these issues in the course of hearings. and so they're feeling, i suspect, a little bit alone right now in

what is and what is coming and what they are going to be forced to deal with in the days, in the days ahead. >> i mean, mark, just i want to share some of the reporting. i mean, i think it's isolation and under under threat. this is the washington post slate latest reporting on this. most of the top national security officials fired or transferred at the justice department and fbi have not yet been replaced, according to multiple people familiar with the personnel changes. trump's appointees at the justice department have been leading the morning meeting in recent weeks, running through threats of the day. people have been moved to border security. bondi's role in, or plans for the morning meeting have not been able to be ascertained, but this is some reporting that says it seems clear she does not want any remnants of the last administration to linger in the justice department headquarters. and one of her first days as attorney general, bondi entered a secured facility in the national security division. according to two people, she saw portraits of biden, harris and

garland, and in front of multiple justice department employees. bondi pulled the portraits from the wall and stacked them in a corner. to your point about retribution and the entire government being hollowed out and refilled and repurposed for retribution. at doj, at least, it seems to be starting very clearly at the to. >> right. and that's donald trump's plan, right? i mean, donald trump cares who the attorney general is. he cares who the director of the fbi is because they have the ability to investigate his political opponents, potentially indict his political opponents, and certainly make his political opponents lives legally very difficult. he cares about pete hegseth at the department of defense because they control the weapons. they control the military. he cares about tulsi gabbard because he cares about the collection of information. he cares about collecting secrets. that is what donald trump cares about, because that is who he is. and he is not

hollowing these agencies out because he wants them smaller. he is hollowing these agencies out because he is going to go on a vengeance campaign. and everybody needs to realize that that is what we are starting to already see happen. we are already starting to see vengeance in the form of firings. we've seen vengeance in the forms of threats, of investigations by people close to donald trump. and next we're going to see a fully in control fbi and department of justice. you know, doing the worst of the worst business for donald trump. and let me just say this. it was one month ago today that the washington post gave a thumbs up to pam bondi and thought she was one of the reasonable ones. and i hope everyone and i call that out not to single out one one entity, but we all need to recognize they are all in on it. marco rubio is in on it. you know, pam bondi is in on it. this is donald trump's plan. >> mary, just quickly, what

happens to the threats when donald trump removes all the veterans from the national security agency? do they miraculously go away? >> of course not. i mean, they're going to change in response to what they're seeing coming out of the white house and coming out of the united states and our department of defense and everything else. but they but, you know, these threats don't go away. we have still, you know, an active islamic state that is constantly a threat against america. we have counterintelligence and espionage threats. we have threats to our critical infrastructure. we certainly have threats to our military. we have threats right here at home, domestically grown extremist threats. and, you know, in fact, domestically, i think people are feeling quite empowered, particularly after the mass blanket pardons and dismissals of the cases against those who were responsible for assaulting our capitol on january 6th of 2021. and so the real concern

here there are also based on that reporting you just discussed, real concern. there are so many concerns. where do i start? but on this on that reporting is if you're not even wanting to listen to those threats because you're not bringing the people in the room, who are the experts who have watched the trends, they know who the actors are, the threat actors are. they know their backgrounds, their histories, sort of the way they think, what motivates them. those are the people you want in the room briefing the president, briefing, the fbi director briefing. you know, the all of our other intelligence, high level officials, those are the ones you want the briefings at in this white house situation room when the national security council is taking up issues across all these vectors, and if those people are removed from their from their positions, what kind of threat briefings are you even going to be getting? >> obviously none. marc elias and mary mccord. thank you. when we come back, it was a day one promise from donald trump to

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one. we will end inflation and make america affordable again. >> woo! >> now we are seeing some results, some outputs. just not those the ones he promised. today the bureau of labor statistics is reporting that contrary to donald trump's many, many, many, many, many, many, many daily promises, inflation is actually up by 3% in what was the fastest monthly increase in a year and a half. it's not over, with economists noting that president trump's new tariffs could put even more upward pressure on prices, meaning again, up. not surprisingly, the trump administration is rapidly changing the message on inflation. >> so now that. president trump's policies are starting to take shape. >> how long will. >> it. >> take to cycle through and get some of the actual prices that. >> americans are paying to. >> come down? >> or is it a year? >> and will. >> americans have the patience

to. >> wait. >> for it? >> i don't have a timeline. >> a timeline for you, silly person. joining our conversation, nbc news senior business correspondent christine romans. let's deal with what's up. take us through it. >> okay. housing. that was about a third of the problem is housing. it's called shelter the way the government measures it. but basically the tough thing about housing is you can't switch out where you live, like you switch out a cut of meat. you know, i can go with only a dozen eggs this month, but. or this week, but i can't switch where i live. so that's that's why i've been watching that one so carefully. fuel oil airfares. you look at auto insurance. i mean, you take into some of these numbers. again, there are things you can't switch out of your budget. you can't every month switch car insurance companies to try to find the cheaper one. although you should be trying to find the cheapest car insurance if you can right now. so as you can see, that shelter energy up 1.1%, food up 0.4%. so this is just too hot. 3%. it's not the 2% the fed would like to see. >> and what is the impact of trump's sort of favorite economic tool the tariffs on all this. >> so almost everyone agrees

that tariffs are raising prices raising costs. right. when you put a tax at the border somebody has to pay that tax. and when i talk to small business owners, sometimes some of them tell me they're not necessarily going to pass that tax on right away to consumers because they can't. consumers are so sticker shock, have so much sticker shock. but it might mean they hire fewer people or in another way they pull back or they don't expand. so it has a dampening effect on economic growth in the very near term. you know, when i talk to economists and listen to earnings reports, the question isn't whether this will raise prices, tariffs, it's how much and when and for how long. and is it, you know very near term hit and then it tapers off after a few years. that's that's the kind of conversation the people who study this are looking at. >> what are the answers? >> the answers are folks are telling me, for example, on a new car, maybe it adds $3,000 to the cost of a new car, but it could it could be more than that. i mean, there was an executive at an auto company this week on his conference call said, if donald trump puts these tariffs on mexico and canada that he wants to, it blows a

hole in the u.s. auto industry. it just blows it up. wow. that was a view from from from a domestic manufacturer. you look at housing, there was a home builder that said tariffs would add $5,000 by the end of this year, $5,000 to the cost of a of a new home. and then there's a forecast that if the 10% tariff goes on canadian oil, that could add 15 to $0.25 a gallon for americans, specifically midwestern drivers, because that canadian oil is refined by american workers and american refineries into gasoline. that's driven by americans. >> and what about eggs? >> eggs. this has been just the fascination of the public. they take all of their anxiety about about the economy. they put it in eggs. look at egg prices, $4.95 for a dozen. that is almost doubled from last year. this is the avian flu. they're the flocks are infected with avian flu. we're not producing the eggs we used to. at a time when consumer demand is very robust. and so it's supply demand. and it could be like this for the next year. you know, you talk to, you know, the global poultry folks and they say experts and they say you got

to get rid of the flu. then you've got to cull all the flocks. and then you have to grow new birds and start all over again. and so they say 250 for a dozen eggs, maybe sometime next year. >> so everything's going up. >> except for apparel went down. >> that's good. >> after the after the holidays, women's apparel went down. some cereal prices went down too. >> i'll buy some cinnamon toast crunch and a new dress. there we go. christine, thank you for joining us. when we come back. friday marks seven years since the horrific school shooting at parkland in florida. our dear friend fred guttenberg, whose daughter jaime was murdered in that massacre, will be our next guest. >> what was it like. >> when trump. >> got elected? >> what was the i mean, what was the reaction. do. >> you think about ice coming to knock on your front door? >> for president trump's first 100 days, alex wagner travels to the story to talk with people most impacted by the policies.

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conversation is our dear friend, our fearless advocate of gun safety, fred guttenberg, whose daughter jamie was murdered seven years ago in the mass shooting at marjory stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida. also joining us, the president of brady united against gun violence, the nation's oldest gun violence prevention group. chris brown. fred, how are you doing? i miss you, our viewers. miss you. how are you? >> you. >> when we. >> last spoke. >> i had. >> made a. decision to step. >> away, talking about this. >> as regularly. >> as regularly as i. >> was was hard. >> and i'm committed to that, with a few exceptions. you know, my wife and i today, to get to your question, we're looking for pictures of jamie that. >> capture jamie that we could. >> share throughout this week. >> being that it's. >> seven years and everything.

is stuff we've shared, imagine not. >> having any new photos to share. >> no new memories, no. >> new ways. >> to show the world who jamie was. >> that was. >> hard for us. >> today. >> to be quite honest. >> we want to share. >> with the world the work we're. doing for. our foundation, orange ribbons for jamie and our paws of love program, because that's what our life. is committed to now. helping survivors of gun violence. >> but we. >> can't find new pictures of jamie. and, you know, listen, the work that i've done the past seven years is to save families from sitting around realizing they can't. >> find new pictures. >> it's why i am so committed to my friend chris brown and her organization, brady, and the work that they do. and i plan on continuing to work with them. nicole. >> our country. >> is at a turning point. i would make an argument that

even. >> though. >> it's bloodless at the moment, we're. actually undergoing a terror attack on the country and our institutions. >> but it's going. >> to be institutions like brady that. >> are. going to. >> lead us forward. and so i'm i'm struggling this week, as. >> i. >> always do this week. >> but you. >> know me, we're going to power forward. >> you always let us struggle with you. and that is the gift of you. chris, what is it like to have fred's sort of movement and the power of fred's sharing every picture he possesses of the daughter he lost as part of this movement? how does that help you change hearts and minds and laws? >> in every. material way? >> nicole. obviously i'm. >> a mom. >> i know you're. >> a mom. we have moms and dads

all over this country. who don't. >> have to. imagine hard. >> what it is to walk in. >> fred's shoes. >> i hear. >> from parents all. >> across the country who are terrified. >> to drop their. >> kids at school. >> and are. >> terrified of getting that. >> call, that there is a shooting at their school, and we don't have to live this way. and i think fred and his wife, jen. >> and so. >> many in the movement, jim and sarah brady, our founders, have suffered the worst. they've bee. >> shot, they've lost families to. >> gun. >> violence. >> and they don't want anyone. >> else to suffer. >> and that is a result that many. people come. >> to after. >> being. >> shot after surviving. >> that's what jim and sarah did. >> fred is an. >> inspiration to. >> us and he. really drives home. the point that. this is something all americans want. >> this is not. >> a controversial. >> issue, and so much. >> that we've been able to do. >> with fred's. >> voice works.

>> and has. >> saved lives. we have a 50%. >> reduction in. >> violent crime. that's not. an accident. and i'm so glad that he's with us. to continue to message why this is. >> so. >> important and non-controversial. >> fred, when you we put up the pictures and i have seen i've seen them and i've seen all the pictures of her dancing. and i take your point about the pictures, but you have, i think, on this occasion shared news stories. and are there any stories that you're thinking about, especially as you step away from politics but don't want the work and the mission to relent? >> you know what? >> the news stories i want to share really are. just reminding people of what a happy, amazing kid jamie was. i don't want people when they think of jamie to think about what happened to her. i want people to know my

daughter loved life. my daughter was obsessed with her dogs. she loved her family and she had a life plan. my daughter knew exactly where she was going to go to college. you know, she was going to be a gator, go to university of florida. she knew she was going to get married. >> she knew she was going. >> to have two kids, and she was robbed of all of that. but i want people to know her real life story because in spite of what's happening in this country, in this moment, we all have people who we love, and it's worth fighting for our safety. and so, nicole, i know you and i have spoken in the past week about trying to make this segment with chris and i a regular thing, you know, monthly or so, because while that guy in the white house. shreds our institutions. >> it's really.

>> going to be important to remind america of. >> the goodness that. >> exists and of the work that we're capable of doing. >> and of the things we all agree on. lots of the specific measures have 70, 73, 85% support from all americans. we will be thinking of you and your wife and your son and your daughter, jamie, this week. we send all of our love to all of you. chris brown, thank you. to be continued. for all of us. thank you. another break for us. thank you. another break for us. we'll be right back. this is clem. clem's not a morning person. or a night person. or a...people person. but he is an "i can solve this in 4 different ways" person. and that person... is impossible to replace. you need clem. clem needs benefits. work with principal so we can help you help clem with a retirement and benefits plan that's right for him. let our expertise round out yours.

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