changed this week when i was writing the piece, that there was enough brushback enough slowing down because of these reversals in court. and they say activist judges, but this. is the one they had yesterday for acquiring foreign aid to keep coming out. that was a biden judge, one of the last biden judges. but there are trump judges. there are reagan judges. there are bush judges that have been doing this to that, that i think tells the response that they are there. they are calling out these judges. and you've seen elon musk even criticize by name judges talk about how do we impeach these people? you saw eli crane of arizona says already already moving to impeach somebody, and you need two thirds vote to remove these. i feel like at this point we should know how impeachment and conviction works. but that frustration comes from this annoyance. there is a there is a branch, equal branch of the government that has review and is able to block them. it's not fun, but it's part of being in power. >> yeah. this is this is what it looks like. dave weigel, a really interesting piece. thank you for joining us. and that was

way too early for this friday morning. have a good weekend. morning joe starts right now. >> good morning. >> and welcome to morning joe. it is friday february 14th valentine's day. >> we have got a. >> lot to. >> get to this morning. >> including the fallout from the justice department's order. >> to drop. >> the corruption. charges against. >> new york city mayor eric adams and. >> accusations of a quid. >> pro quo. >> between the mayor. >> and the doj. >> plus, we'll play for you. >> president trump's. >> comments about. >> senator mitch mcconnell. >> as the. >> former party. >> leader voted against. yet another one of the president's. >> cabinet nominees. >> also ahead, we'll bring you the latest. >> out of. >> ukraine after a potentially. >> catastrophic russian drone. >> strike inside. >> the war torn country. and will go through president trump's new tariff proposal and the. criticism from a. >> major conservative outlet. >> meanwhile, there are more. >> legal challenges.

>> to elon musk's seemingly unchecked power. >> within the federal government. >> we'll explain that, and we'll be joined. by a comedic legend and one of. the original snl cast members, chevy chase. is our guest. >> ahead of. >> this sunday's. big 50th. anniversary special. >> along with willie and me. >> we have the co-host. >> of our. >> fourth hour. >> contributing writer at. >> the atlantic. jonathan lemire. >> and. the host. >> of. >> way too. >> early, ali vitali. first things. >> first, everybody. >> it's valentine's day. willie. >> yes. >> and are. >> you prepared. >> for valentine's day? >> flowers have. >> been ordered. >> jonathan lemire. >> there are plans. no, really. >> plans are made. surprises? >> yes. >> oh, wow. wow. willie. >> okay. well done. >> and went to dinner last night. >> last night. >> last night. today. >> went to. >> dinner last night. >> alec vitale's. >> been reminding. >> everyone all week, so. >> thank you for that. >> i wouldn't have.

>> known it was valentine's day. >> so, ali, you set to go? >> i love. >> love. >> i mean, so sue me. i will say, my very sweet valentine surprised me with roses in the room that i get ready in this morning, so i was feeling very. >> very good. way to start. >> so joanna. >> in the control room. >> says. >> love is in the air, which. is good because i think at this point. we need. some good news. >> so i'm. >> thinking we're. >> going to like. >> change our. >> programing up. >> a bit. willie, we'll do a little bit of. >> like. >> can we do some live on air proposals. >> on mj. >> or something. >> let's cut things. >> up a little bit. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> can you help me with that with. >> your today show connections? >> we'll work. >> on that. we'll do some. >> legal news first. >> yeah. >> we'll get to. >> some. >> pregnancy revelations. >> alex corson. >> our producer. >> are you ready? >> i'm ready. >> for. >> the news. >> okay. >> okay. >> so he is the. >> wet blanket. it's usually me. >> all right, let's get started with the news. >> happy valentine's. >> day, everybody. >> after a very long. >> week and it continues. the top federal prosecutor in new

york has resigned after she refused to. >> follow a. >> justice department. >> order to. >> drop the corruption charges against new york mayor. >> eric adams. >> acting u.s. >> attorney for the southern. >> district of new york. >> danielle sassoon. >> announced her resignation in a brief. >> statement to colleagues. >> according to. >> a senior official. >> sassoon appealed. >> wednesday to. >> attorney general. >> pam bondi and expressed her alarm at. >> being ordered. >> to drop. >> the case. >> according to. >> a letter. >> obtained by nbc news. >> she wrote. >> that she attended a meeting on january. >> 31st. >> with a meal. >> bovey, the. >> acting u.s. >> deputy attorney general. >> adams, attorney, and members of her office, quote adams attorneys. repeatedly urged what amounted. to be a quid. >> pro quo. >> indicating that. >> adams would be in a. >> position to assist with the department's. enforcement priorities only. >> if the.

>> indictment were dismissed. mr. bovey admonished. >> a member of my team. who took notes during that meeting and directed. >> the. >> collection of those notes. >> at the meeting's conclusion. >> the attorney. >> for mayor adams. >> alex spiro. >> denied the allegations. >> in a. >> statement that reads in part, quote. the idea. >> that there. >> was. >> a quid pro. >> quo is a. total lie. >> we offered. >> nothing and the department asked nothing of us. >> sassoon also revealed. >> in that letter that her office was prepared to bring. additional charges. >> against mayor adams. >> based on. evidence that adams. >> destroyed, and instructed. >> others to destroy evidence and provide false information to the fbi. adams was indicted last. >> year on multiple criminal. >> charges. >> including bribery and fraud, over his dealings with officials. >> from the turkish government. >> he has maintained. >> he did. >> nothing wrong. >> at least five. >> other justice. >> department officials. >> have. >> also resigned.

>> as a. >> result of. >> bovi's order. >> to dismiss. >> meanwhile. >> new york city. >> mayor eric. >> adams says. >> he. >> will issue an executive. >> order allowing immigration and customs enforcement agents. >> access to the. >> jail on rikers island. mayor adams. >> says the order. >> would allow the agents. >> to assist in criminal. >> investigations. >> with a. focus on. >> violent criminals. >> and gangs. >> the mayor announced. >> the shift. >> after a meeting with the. >> trump administration's. >> border czar. >> tom homan, >> yesterday. >> and this. >> morning. >> both adams. and homan are. >> set. >> to make a. >> joint appearance on fox news. >> let's bring. >> in nbc news. >> national law enforcement. >> and intelligence correspondent tom winter and former assistant district attorney in. >> manhattan. >> nbc news. >> legal analyst catherine christian. >> tom, i want to start with. >> you on the. >> reporting on. >> this, because it's a. >> lot it's a lot to. >> take in. >> can you. >> break down. >> exactly what we. >> know about what happened here

and why? >> this letter by. >> danielle sassoon is so. >> blistering and. >> potentially revealing. >> it is potentially revealing because. >> excuse me, so, so rarely. >> do we. >> see the internal communications between offices, between the justice. >> department and their headquarters where they're based. >> and main justice. and so rarely do we see the back and forth that occurs in these cases. it to be clear, this back and forth happens all the time. so this is not something. >> that is. >> that is unusual that there could be issues about cases. what makes this so extraordinary and what i think people really need to understand here this morning is that the justice department leadership under this administration doesn't care about your feelings. they don't care about what you think. they don't care about all the smart legal points that catherine will make about the precedent of this issue. and you will hear unprecedented today that this exploded into public view. the questions that sassoon raises in her memo, which i'll get to about this particular case, about the concerns about this particular case. they are not losing any sleep, is not losing

any sleep right now. the attorney general is not losing any sleep. her staff is not losing any sleep about what happened yesterday, with the exception of the fact that this case still remains open on the docket. they do want to get this order of dismissal without prejudice entered into it. so they need to find somebody who's going to do that. everybody they've asked so far. >> has resigned. >> that's maybe. >> the. >> only thing that they're losing sleep about. they have come in in their eyes with a mandate, with an executive order from the president saying you will zealously support the efforts of this administration. if it comes to a point where we're either bringing a prosecution that's to our agenda or whether you're defending the administration, when people bring legal challenges, that is your job. that is what they are telling their people. that is the executive order from the president. so they have policies and some of them have experience in these areas. when we talk about cartels, when we talk about drugs, that might be very successful, if they're able to carry them out the way that they want to. but when you look at cases like this, the issues that

sassoon raises, it's something that we spoke about in our coverage earlier this week. eric adams right now can walk around with one of those t-shirts that says property of the united states government. and this is a question and an issue that she raises in her memo yesterday, effectively saying, we are doing something that the courts have told us we cannot do, which is hold over a policy issue, over somebody that we've charged and we're not supposed to be able to do that. and adams is in this position now. and to be clear, the executive order that you referenced that he signed yesterday about putting ice people at the jail, he could have done that six months ago. he could have done that a year ago. that's not something that is particularly new or that he's now allowed to do as a result of all this. this is something that law enforcement officials in the city have been calling for. if you have somebody who's a member of a venezuelan gang who's been charged with multiple violent offenses, why are we having a trial? why are we having an issue? have somebody at rikers who can say, that person is not in this country legally? they're out. and so she raises that

concern. and then she raised the concern that this appears to be in her eyes, what it amounts to, as she said, a quid pro quo, basically. i'll do what you guys want me to do on immigration. i need these charges to be at the very least, tabled, if not dismissed. >> and that's. >> what democrats in the. >> city have been saying for. >> days now. >> that. >> that mayor adams. >> is simply. going to. do president. >> trump's bidding. >> we have heard prominent. >> members of congress. we've heard. >> state local lawmakers suggesting he. >> needs. >> to resign. >> there's been reporting. >> that. >> adams may run. >> for reelection this year. >> as a republican. >> switched parties. you know, there's pressure on. >> governor hochul to. >> try. >> to force. >> him out. >> of. office because. >> the there is and there's a mechanism where. she could potentially do that. >> because this idea that he's no longer. >> independently governing the city, but rather doing. >> what what donald trump wants. so. >> catherine, let's talk about. >> that, why this. >> is set up the way it is, how unusual. if it is. >> unusual that. >> that the dismissal. >> of. >> the cases were done without prejudice. the idea that it. >> could be. >> returned, that the charges could. be brought back. >> on adams. >> if he doesn't. >> do you carry out trump's

immigration policy, let's say, and then just speak about the crisis, if you will, in office. you know well that the mass resignations an open rebellion, it. >> would seem. >> and s.d.n.y. >> well. >> unusual is too light a word. >> yeah. >> shocking. extraordinary. it just doesn't happen. and any prosecutor, any ethical prosecutor. you're always fearful. >> you're not. >> always. >> fearful because. >> you work for decent people, that you don't want a boss to tell you prosecute that person and there's no basis for it, or don't prosecute that person out of fear or favor. and you have a prosecutor here, miss sassoon. she's now resigned, who basically said, no, we're not doing that. we're we have. a last september, damian williams, the former u.s. attorney. >> gave. >> a press conference and he talked about this being a long running conspiracy, a legal campaign, contributions, over $100,000 in first class luxury trips. these are all allegations. but these were against the mayor of the city of new york. a search warrant was

executed on gracie mansion. that's the home of the mayor of the city of new york. never happened before. so now, six months later. okay. you know, if you again, this is allegation if you agree to our immigration agenda will dismiss this case, but we'll dismiss it with prejudice, because if you don't, we're going to bring it back. that's the appearance. and that's basically, quite frankly, what mr. suen said in a letter happened. dismissal with prejudice, without prejudice. immigration agenda. you don't do the immigration agenda. we'll bring back the indictment. so that's shocking, outrageous, extraordinary. and it's disheartening. and i'm not surprised that. >> all of. >> these prosecutors resigned. >> and the. >> current acting u.s. attorneys throughout the country, the people who have been nominated to be u.s. attorneys, they have to look in the mirror and ask themselves, do i want to be in that same position? and they have to decide, are they going to go forward. and agree to be

the u.s. attorney, or are they going to resign as current acting u.s. attorneys are going to wait and see what happens? >> and as. >> you said, tom. >> the administration. >> now has. >> the. >> mayor of. >> america's largest. >> city in its back pocket. >> and they're parading around as. >> mika just. >> said, they're going to be on door knocks on fox and friends with tom homan. >> doing all. >> these appearances. >> doing effectively whatever. >> they need him. >> to do on immigration. >> and we. >> should. >> also point out. >> that this. >> is not some screaming. >> new york lefty. >> she clerked she clerked for. >> justice scalia. she's a federal society judge. >> she's very, very conservative. >> in the classic. >> sense that. we understand. >> conservatism. >> not in a sort of a trumpist. >> maga sense. >> but what are the implications. >> now for. >> the judicial. system writ large. >> if. >> as you. >> say. >> the message. >> is get on board. >> or you're gone. >> i think there's extraordinary as far as implications of this. look, it's the same thing with the fbi. i mean, it's very clear where the third rails are with an investigation or opening an investigation or continuing with

the prosecution. with this administration, they have their defined priorities, as i alluded to before. but one of the things we've been talking about to bring back some of our fbi coverage on this, in another in another memo that was sent from the justice department where they said you were being insubordinate, at least the memos that have become public, it's very clear that one, they want you to do exactly what their mission states, as i mentioned earlier. but two, what is the incentive to open an investigation into anyone tied to the trump orbit or anybody who should be under investigation? but maybe that cuts against some of the some of the ideals or some of the some of the priorities of the trump administration. why would you do that, willy? why would you possibly open up that investigation, go down certain avenues? what does that ultimately do to people's respect for and understanding of law in this country? there will be people that will will vocally because they're in my email and on social media, tell me we really don't care. thank you. we

elected donald trump to do x, y, and z in the justice department needs to play along with x, y, and z. there is a component of the country that absolutely feels that way, but there's another component of this country that feels obviously quite differently. and the politics. >> of this. >> are i. >> mean, adams. >> has been openly. >> courting this, right? >> he went. >> to mar a lago, he went to the inauguration. he is. desperate to have these charges dropped. he was seeking a pardon. instead, we have this. >> and then. >> to tom's. >> point. >> what this is saying from. >> the white house is there's not going. >> to be a. >> separation between what the white. >> house's political. >> arm is and the department of justice. >> they're going. >> to carry out his bidding. >> no matter what. >> president. >> it sends certainly sends that message. >> one more. >> legal story. >> before you go. officials in louisiana are seeking to prosecute a new. >> york doctor. >> after she. sent abortion. >> pills to a. >> louisiana resident. new york. >> governor kathy. hochul rejected a request to extradite the doctor after. >> louisiana governor jeff. >> landry. >> signed the extradition. >> warrant. >> hochul stated. >> that she will.

>> never. >> under any. >> circumstances. >> turn the physician over. >> to louisiana. >> doctor margaret. >> carpenter was. >> charged with. >> allegedly prescribing. >> and shipping. >> abortion medication to. >> a pregnant teenager in. >> west baton. >> rouge. >> parish last month. >> the mother. was also. >> indicted on. >> a felony charge. >> for. >> purchasing the abortion. >> pills. >> but she. >> has. >> not been identified to. >> protect the privacy. >> of her. >> teenage daughter. the case is the. >> first known criminal. >> indictment of a. >> doctor being charged with sending abortion. >> pills across. >> state lines, after roe. >> v wade was overturned. >> to note new york. >> has. >> a shield law. >> in. >> place which prohibits. >> state and local law. >> enforcement from cooperating. >> with extraditions. >> or arrests. >> of. >> persons charged. >> with health care provisions. >> that. >> are lawful. >> in new york. >> and that. >> could be what what. >> helps with this case? >> new york saw this happening in the future. and passed. this

law protects reproductive health care providers from out of state investigations, prosecutions, civil liability and extradition. and that's what governor hochul is. >> relying on. but it's. >> still sending such. >> a. >> chilling message. >> to doctors. >> who are trying. >> to. >> give women access to what is, at. >> times, life. >> saving health care. >> and here. >> we go. >> any promises. >> of any type. >> of progress on lowering abortion bans or trying to make things better for women in america appears not. >> to be happening. >> that appears. >> to be. moving forward just. >> as is. >> which. >> is a horrific. situation for. >> the state of women in america. in terms of. >> their. >> health care. >> ali vitale. >> give. >> us some. >> context of this. >> you were reporting on this. >> for way too early. >> and why. >> some of. >> these laws were in place. >> and this is actually a case that's really important. catherine and probably tom too, can talk about why a lot of lawmakers, including pat ryan, who is the lawmaker that represents the area where this doctor practices. of course, you've got kathy hochul now

engaged in this legal battle. but it's really important because this is an example, one of the earliest of red states trying to build upon the dobbs decision that, of course, curtailed the right of women to access abortion care. so i think it's really important that we that we point out the fda approved mifepristone, which is the abortion pill, medication we've seen that come under legal challenges to in recent years. but then there's also the fact that during the pandemic, the fda said you can prescribe and send the abortion pill through the mail. that was a time where telehealth was being expanded. so an important way of trying to make this care more accessible. then, of course, at the state level, you have restrictions coming into play. so now it's a patchwork again of rules, where in some states you can get this medication, in other states you can't. that is of course the crux of this, but it really does present the question. right, catherine? that that where basically questioning now in this case, are we a country that is willing to potentially criminalize and go after

providers and criminalize or go after patients? it's sort of been the next frontier in this reproductive health care battle, right? >> oh. >> well, clearly louisiana is doing. >> that, of course. >> and we can't i mean, new york has, you know, this great shield law. not all states have that law. so if you're a doctor in another state and you don't have a law or a governor who is going to protect you, you're just not going to provide this reproductive health care. and so that will have a chilling effect. if more states like louisiana does this. >> we'll be following this. >> msnbc legal. >> analyst catherine. >> christian. >> thank you. >> so. >> much for being on this morning and nbc. >> news, national. >> law enforcement. >> and intelligence. >> correspondent tom. >> winter. >> thank you. >> as well. >> also. >> president trump. yesterday ordered his. >> administration to determine. >> how to impose. >> reciprocal tariffs on all. major u.s. >> trading partners. the order does not give a firm. >> timeline for the tariffs. >> senate commerce. secretary nominee. >> howard lutnick said the

administration would look at. >> countries one by one. >> with a final report expected by. >> april 1st. >> the president yesterday. >> was pressed. >> by. reporters about the possible impact of more tariffs. >> what's the. >> timeline. >> consumers expect? >> are prices. >> going to go up short term. >> long term necessarily? i mean, not necessarily. but i'll tell you what will go up is jobs. the jobs will go up tremendously. we're going to have great jobs, jobs for everybody. >> mr. president, because of these tariffs, who do you think voters should hold responsible. >> oh, i think what's going to go up is jobs are going to go up and prices could go up somewhat short term, but prices will also go down. there could be some short term disturbance. but long term it's going to it's going to make our country a fortune. >> so americans. >> should. >> prepare for some short term pain. >> i know you said that. i didn't say that. >> the prices go up. >> and let's see what happens. nobody really knows what is going to happen. >> all right. so far.

>> trump has implemented. only one set. of the series. >> of tariffs. >> he has announced an additional. >> 10% levy. >> on chinese. >> imports. >> a 25% tax on steel and aluminum. imports announced this week. >> as well as 25% duties on. >> imports from canada and mexico that trump suspended would not go into. >> effect until. >> early march. >> so this will have. >> a huge. >> impact ultimately. >> on. >> american consumers willing. >> yeah. >> prices are going to go up. >> let's bring in the. >> anchor of cnbc's. >> worldwide exchange. >> frank holland. frank. good morning. >> so let's talk first about how the. markets are reacting to all of this this. >> morning. >> and also just. how manufacturers. >> consumers across. >> the country understand. >> what tariffs. >> will do. if you. >> talk. >> to somebody running. >> a car. >> dealership in. >> detroit or a. >> parts manufacturer. >> prices are going. >> to go up. >> well, first off, let's start off with the fact. >> that tariffs. >> are. >> a tax on imported. >> goods that are paid by businesses and often. >> passed on. >> to consumers. >> there still seems to be some

confusion about that. so certainly there's a potential for price increases when it comes. >> to the market. >> reaction, though. yesterday, after. >> we saw the. >> president's news conference. >> in. >> the oval office, we actually saw the. >> markets move higher. >> some of it was. relief that the. >> you know, reciprocal tariffs weren't being instituted that day. >> and the idea that there's going to be a study. >> and again. >> this when we look at the markets. this morning, we're seeing the futures actually in. >> the red. the dow is down about 100 points. >> the s&p and the. >> nasdaq down fractionally. >> so it. >> seems to be some. >> kind of. >> mixed opinions. >> people really trying to figure. >> all this out. when it comes to tariffs. >> however there's. >> a couple of different camps. so there's many. >> who argue. and these. >> arguments are becoming. >> louder that these tariffs are just negotiating tactics. in fact, that a guest. >> on my. >> show this. >> morning from the american enterprise institute, he described the president. >> as. >> having a complex or sophisticated. >> agenda when it comes to global trade. >> and he. believes these tariffs. >> could lead to tariffs imposed by other countries to be lowered proactively. before the. white house and u.s. agencies finished their study of tariffs. in fact, the commerce secretary. who you just mentioned, the commerce secretary. >> nominee. >> who. >> you just. >> mentioned, who.

>> is leading. >> that study. >> said the president's. >> going to get that study on april. >> 1st and then has the option to. >> start these tariffs on. >> april the 2nd. implying it's. >> not really a. >> foregone conclusion. >> and the fact that the. >> president says he's going to. >> match tariffs from other countries. >> as opposed to universal. >> tariffs that he discussed. >> before, many people believe. >> that will reduce global trade uncertainty. >> and that. could in turn. >> and the. >> could is the key word. >> there be a boost. >> for. >> the u.s. economy and. >> potentially increase foreign investment in the u.s. that's what the president. >> was alluding to. >> for investment in the u.s, leading to new jobs. >> all right. >> cnbc's frank holland, thank you. mika. >> before you. >> go, i. >> think you guys are burying the lead. there's one other huge story. >> happening today. >> what's that? what's that. >> what's that? >> eagles. eagles parade today. go, birds. super bowl champs. >> america's team. >> valentine's right here. go, birds. >> america's team one. >> america one. >> thank goodness. >> it's. >> going to the parade later today. >> to philly today. >> you know a. >> million. >> eagles fans. >> you have opportunity. >> you had an opportunity. >> i think. >> i took. >> it today. no you. >> took it. >> you didn't. you took it. >> you already have a valentine.

>> my valentine right here. >> the birds. valentine saquon okay. >> all right. evergreen valentine's. >> day guys. >> thanks. >> happy valentine's day okay. >> so we do we are hearing. >> from the wall street journal. >> editorial board. >> yeah they've been consistent on this. >> they're writing. >> trump's tariff stress test. >> the piece reads is president. >> trump trying to push markets. >> through a. >> stress test? >> it feels. >> like it. >> stocks rallied thursday after. mr. trump announced a. >> temporary reprieve. >> from. >> the global. >> reciprocal tariffs he threatened earlier. >> this week. >> try to catch your. breath before his next. >> blunderbuss tariff shot. trump's willy. >> nilly tariff. >> threats on one day off. >> the. >> next create business. >> uncertainty that. >> will hurt u.s. >> investment and hiring. mr. trump's. >> tariff threats encourage. >> other countries to get closer. >> to beijing. u.s. businesses are. >> huffing and puffing. >> but xi. >> jinping is. >> smiling. >> writes the. >> editorial board. >> of the wall. >> street journal. and ali. you spoke. >> to a member. of donald trump's. >> team. >> his economic. >> team, yesterday, and. asked the. very obvious question. won't prices go up with these new tariffs? >> a very obvious question. when

you saw the president there was asked himself, and he actually used very similar language to what his top economist told me yesterday on msnbc. just listen to that exchange. can you, without invoking the past administration, guarantee that prices won't rise because of these tariffs? >> i, you know, prices move up, prices move down. that's the way the world works, right? the economy. >> but you're an economist. you forecast trends. >> like no, no. >> so will. >> consumers see prices rise. >> my expectation is that prices will fluctuate. and that when economists study the fluctuations of the prices, that they'll wonder what the causes were. and there will be many. and so am i confident that there won't be strong evidence of a price effect of tariffs? yes, i am confident. >> so he's saying he's confident. look, that's a clip that we can save for later and see if it actually ends up being right. but it's exactly what the president then echoed about an hour or so later when he actually put these reciprocal tariffs into effect, or at least

the starting bell for them. but i think frank brings up a lot of really good points here, like the idea that there are open questions about if these tariffs will include carve outs for industries like the automotive industry. that's something that on capitol hill, we've already heard some murmurs about agitating to have carve outs like that. there are questions about if this violates world trade agreements. and then, of course, the way that it impacts just the alliances and trade partnerships that we have on the world stage. so a lot of questions there. and then, of course, what the wall street journal has said, mika. >> absolutely. >> and also just very. >> quickly, some. >> of this is just negotiations. >> trump has. >> had for years now said tariffs have to be part of this. >> so he's got at least fall through to a time. that's telling that. >> this has been pushed off. >> to. >> april before it actually starts, or later. >> depending on the study. >> we'll suspect there could be what he says he means. >> i think. >> you know, certainly people are expecting. >> these to come in. some form. >> but perhaps. >> not the quite degree first. >> but there seems to be an obsession. >> really, to blame these the impacts, the consequences.

>> of some of these policies. >> on joe biden. >> or go back to. >> obama and. >> even saw. >> it actually in. >> a news. >> conference yesterday with president. >> trump going. >> back many. >> presidents and. >> blaming the. >> war. >> on ukraine. >> i mean, it. >> just are. >> well. >> part. >> of it, we won't go. we won't. >> dig deep. >> into that. >> there's a connection between. >> ukraine and inflation, which. >> is that donald trump on the campaign. trail suggested he would wave a wand, and on day one, he'd get a deal. to end the war in ukraine and. >> the prices. >> would come down. >> now. >> gas. groceries prices. >> have gone up since then. >> and may go up further. >> if. these tariffs actually come to pass. >> right. and there'll be no one that they can blame it on. >> these are. trump's tariffs. are still ahead. >> on morning joe. president donald trump. >> reveals more about. >> his phone call with vladimir putin, but. >> declines to. >> say what russia should. give up, if anything, in. >> a potential deal. >> to end the war in ukraine, the. >> country russia invaded. the wall. >> street journal editorial board argues he's making concessions to. putin without anything in return. we'll read from. >> that new piece.

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containment shell of the chernobyl. nuclear power plant. despite the attack. >> with a. highly explosive warhead, radiation. >> levels at. >> the plant have not. >> increased. >> according to president volodymyr zelensky and a. un agency. a kremlin spokesman. >> said that it was. responsible for the strike. >> it comes. >> as vice. >> president jd. >> vance is set to meet with president. >> zelensky today. >> at the munich security conference, president trump. >> spoke about. >> his negotiations with russian. >> president. >> vladimir. >> putin yesterday. >> russia has gotten themselves into something that i think they wish they didn't. if i were president, it would not have happened, absolutely would not have happened. and it didn't happen for four years. i think that when you look at ukraine and when you look at the mess that they're in, it's got to be ended and it's got to be

stopped. now, russia has taken over a pretty big chunk of territory, and they also have said from day one, long before president putin, they've said they cannot have ukraine be in nato. they said that very strongly. i actually think that that was the thing that caused the start of the war. but as far as the negotiation, it's too early to say what's going to happen. maybe russia will give up a lot, maybe they won't. and it's all dependent on what is going to happen. the negotiation really hasn't started. >> so the word. >> negotiation is being used here and not sure. exactly what's being. >> negotiated, a european official tells nbc. news nato. >> allies were blindsided by trump's. >> call. >> with putin. >> the official says there is also. >> frustration that. >> defense secretary. >> pete hegseth said publicly that. ukraine should. >> abandon its hopes. >> of nato. >> membership as part of a peace deal, effectively. >> making concessions to. >> russia before. >> quote, negotiations have eve.

>> started. >> by. >> the way. >> that was. >> president trump. >> alongside india's prime minister. >> modi yesterday in the news conference. joining us now live from. >> munich, columnist. >> and associate editor for. >> the washington. >> post. >> david ignatius. >> david, your. >> analysis on what the president. >> has said and also these conversations. >> that he's. >> having. >> directly with putin. >> so, nick. >> behind me is the packed lobby of. >> the hotel. >> where the munich security conference is taking place. everybody's jostling. >> it's like. >> a huge. >> dinner party. >> where everybody's trying to get a seat. and that's kind of a metaphor for. >> me of. >> what's going. >> on in. >> these negotiations. >> everybody's trying to figure out what positions the us is taking, how to. >> respond to them. >> and the positions have been. >> all over the map. >> president trump's initial description. >> of. >> his meeting with. >> or his. >> conversations with. >> vladimir putin. >> was very warm. >> it led. >> people to worry. >> that that. >> trump might be getting ready to.

>> sell out ukraine. similar comments by pete. >> hegseth denying ukraine the likelihood of membership in nato added to those worries. >> in the following two days, we've had people pulling back some of those comments to the point that vice president j.d. vance said yesterday that the us might want to put tariffs on russia and might even send troops into. ukraine to. guarantee the peace agreement. the very. thing that president trump had said two days before wouldn't happen. so there's a lot of. confusion during the. three days of this conference here in munich, where every foreign. >> policy national. security official from. >> around the world gathers, there's going. >> to be nothing but discussion. >> of these. negotiations and. >> what positions. >> the us is going to take, and even who's going. >> to. >> do the negotiating for the us. >> that's another mystery. >> so it's a moment. >> where we've all. got lots of questions and not a lot of answers. >> so, david, if.

>> the negotiations effectively are phone calls between donald trump and vladimir putin, which is how it has now begun, donald trump even pointing. >> out that. >> vladimir putin used the term maga. >> and he. >> was flattered. >> by that. >> putin obviously. >> knows all the buttons. >> to push. >> with donald trump, and it. >> appears he's getting exactly. >> what he wanted. >> by. >> supporting him. >> during the presidential campaign. >> but if it. >> is donald trump and. putin really. >> running these. >> negotiations, how. >> concerned are nato members? how concerned. >> are the people in that room behind. >> you about what. >> this deal. >> will look like? >> well, that. >> specific issue of. >> trump and putin negotiating over the heads of the ukrainians and the europeans, don't forget, it's their security. that's at stake here as well, led. to some pretty strong comments over. the last. >> several. >> days, including from britain. which said it it still is open. >> to the idea. >> of ukraine. >> joining nato and. pushing back, insisting. >> that europe. >> has to have a. place in these

negotiations. >> it's not. >> just a bilateral discussion between. >> trump and putin. >> so as i. >> say, this is. >> going to this is going to shake out. i think. >> we're in. >> the in the moment. >> so often. >> before negotiations. >> you have a period of. >> jostling, positioning. we had what appears to. >> have. >> been an. unusually heavy strike by russia hitting near the chernobyl nuclear plant. that's been a red line so far in the three years of this war. so it's a very unsettled period as it as we move towards some kind of negotiation. my own guess will be this isn't just going to be putin and trump, that the ukrainians will make so much noise that they'll they'll have a seat at the table. >> so another piece. >> from. >> the wall street journal editorial board. this one is titled peace through weakness in ukraine. it reads in part. president trump has begun his promised effort to negotiate an end to the war in. >> ukraine. >> and. >> the initial. >> signs are discouraging. he is making concessions to vladimir putin without anything in

return, and he's informing ukraine. after the fact. >> does mr. trump want to negotiate. >> peace with honor. >> that will. >> last, or peace. >> through weakness. >> that will. >> reward the kremlin? >> most concerning. >> is that. >> mr. trump. >> seems to be excluding. >> ukraine as. >> a negotiating. >> party. much less partner. mr. trump is wrong. >> if he. >> thinks letting. >> russia dominate ukraine. >> will result in. >> less u.s. involvement in. >> europe, or. >> enhanced deterrence in the day. try. blink. tears day. try. blink. tears different way at&t has a new guarantee. because most things in business are not guaranteed. like a distraction-free work environment. -yeah,i'll circle back around. -get those steps in, kevin. your coworkers keeping things confidential. [phone ringing] oh, she's spilling all the tea. ♪♪ or office etiquette. yeah, that's not guaranteed. i know you can see me! you know what at&t guarantees? connectivity you depend on, the deals you want, and the service you deserve. can i get that logo bigger? or we'll make it right. pacific, the us will end up that's the at&t guarantee. elevated design for thoughtful living thuma. spending far. >> more on defense. >> and deploying more troops in europe to defend poland. >> welcome back to. >> the. >> morning joe. we've been >> baltic states. talking all morning getting >> and nation. ready to hear willie's interview >> states and. nato commitments. with chevy chase coming up here. >> if he abandons. >> ukraine, he'll soon find that >> can't wait to. >> talk. in the lead up to the china. >> is even more emboldened. >> to take taiwan. big special on nbc sunday night. >> mr. trump has to decide if. >> he. >> wants to. if he. snl at 50. and willie, you are >> wants an. going to be on the red carpet >> honorable peace in ukraine or. risk his own. for that event. yes. >> afghanistan or vietnam. >> there's a pre-show from 7 to >> jonathan lemire. 8. the big show starts at 8:00.

>> again, it doesn't sound like a negotiation. >> okay. >> i, along with leslie jones, >> that involves. will be hosting the red carpet >> all parties at. >> all to this point. >> it does not. and the latest show from 7 to 8. example. >> so stop. >> of the remarkable deference >> yeah, so we'll have all the that donald. stars coming by. it will be bill >> trump shows, vladimir putin. we saw. murray and will ferrell and tina >> it in helsinki. >> we saw it repeatedly. fey and everybody who's ever been on the show, along with a >> during. >> his first time. >> in office and now. bunch of tbd, who i think is as >> inviting him to. >> the united. >> states. >> potentially even the white big as names get. house, and at least. >> david ignatius. >> seemingly at this. >> i'm going to get my popcorn >> moment. >> cutting him out. out. >> will be there. so yeah, we're >> cutting zelenskyy. >> out of these negotiations. excited to be there on the red >> we should note, just carpet and then to watch along apparently a few. >> minutes ago at. with the rest of america. >> an interview there in. >> 8:00 the hottest ticket in >> munich. >> our senate armed services years. >> you can't get tickets to. chair, roger wicker, republican >> can't get in. from mississippi, said that >> no. >> willie, i know you tried. talking. about defense secretary >> to. i asked. >> but listen, i'd like. >> to get in. pete hegseth, who. >> was the one who. >> first said that ukraine >> people don't realize how small that snl studio is. a returning to its pre-war borders couple hundred people, and it's once you put in the cast members was unrealistic. and. and their. i think lauren's >> a line that. trump then message was no plus ones. echoed. wicker said that that >> no plus ones. was a, quote, rookie mistake. >> maybe get people in, but no >> and said that hegseth. plus. >> well, i can't wait to watch >> should not. >> have said. you on the red carpet this >> that. >> because it's giving up. sunday, 7 p.m. eastern. okay, >> leverage in these negotiations. there's growing drama this >> so my question. >> to you is. morning in the feud between. it >> do we think we'll. ends with us costars blake >> hear. >> more from. lively and justin baldoni, >> republicans on. >> that. >> that might push. >> this white house.

>> to rethink. including a new character in >> how they approach these their public battle. nbc news negotiations? >> so. >> jonathan, there is republican entertainment correspondent chloe melas has the latest. pushback when you have the wall street journal warning about, >> this morning. a new character has quietly entered the growing you know, peace through weakness, you know, about about public battle between. it ends with us costars blake lively and misconceived negotiations, you justin baldoni. the instagram know, that that trump has has page of colleen hoover, the. trouble. >> author of the best. >> it's. >> selling novel. >> going to this is going to be >> that the movie was. >> based on, does not have. a very complicated negotiation. >> any. >> images. >> or references. >> to. >> lively or baldoni. hoover, and i think although hegseth got who follows. >> lively but does not follow baldoni. a lot of criticism for saying >> returning to the social. >> media platform wednesday. that ukraine may have to make territorial concessions, that's >> after deactivating her account last month. generally been understood really >> the author previously. posted for a year now. this war is at a an. >> instagram story. >> after lively's initial stalemate. ukraine has tried to push the russians back accusations. >> that appeared. >> to show her support for the unsuccessfully. so i think actress, writing. that's less the issue than what >> you've been nothing but honest, kind. kind of guarantees ukraine will >> supportive and patient. have, that whatever the >> since the. >> day we met. never changed. ceasefire line is that's agreed, >> never will. >> months after. >> the film's release, lively the russians will be forced by filed a sexual harassment. >> complaint against. by european troops, maybe >> baldoni. accusing him of misconduct. supplemented by u.s. troops to >> during the film's production. stay behind that line. i think >> baldoni then filed.

that's going to be the key issue >> a $400 million countersuit. >> against lively. her husband in negotiations. >> all right. the washington ryan reynolds. >> and their. post. >> david ignatius. >> publicist, claiming. >> as always, thank you so much >> defamation and extortion. for coming on the show this >> lively's legal team, now. morning live from munich. all subpoenaing baldoni's. right. >> phone and text records. >> coming up, our. >> next guest argues the. >> her lawyer saying. >> new resistance. >> in a statement. >> to donald trump's presidency >> that their. >> client has initiated discovery that. >> will. is. working. semaphores. dave >> expose the. >> people, tactics and methods weigel joins. >> us to. >> explain his new reporting. that have worked. >> to destroy. >> and bury her reputation. plus, republican senator mitch >> and family over the past mcconnell is no longer. helping year. trump push. >> baldoni's team calling the >> his agenda forward. move a massive fishing >> we'll go through. expedition, adding they. >> the new friction. >> are desperately. seeking any >> between the president and the former. majority leader. after factual. >> basis for. >> their provably false claims. mcconnell. >> voted against another one. >> the latest legal. >> of. >> trump's cabinet nominees, >> move comes. >> as previously released audio morning, joe. we'll be right and video recordings paint a back. picture of. >> what happened. >> during the. >> production of the. >> film hey blake. it is two in the morning. hopefully this does. >> not wake. >> safelite repair. >> you up. >> safelite replace. >> including this more. >> than six. >> nobody likes. >> minute. >> a cracked windshield. >> audio message obtained by the dailymail.com of baldoni. >> oh. >> apologizing. >> to lively for his lack of >> but at. enthusiasm for changes she made >> least you can go to safelite. to a pivotal scene in the movie.

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moves. >> going forward. >> charges against new york city >> while we wait for the courts mayor eric adams and accusations to proceed? isn't the damage being done right now? of a quid pro quo between the >> well, those. are number. mayor and the doj. plus, we'll >> one. >> i think. look, there's a lot play for you president trump's of some of these agencies where comments about senator mitch there's. >> where there are court orders. mcconnell as the former party >> holding things in place, right. leader voted against yet another >> the. >> the at the moment those agencies are not functional. one of the president's cabinet >> so. right. >> you can. nominees. also ahead, we'll >> there's yes. damage is being bring you the latest out of done. i think damage is. ukraine after a potentially >> being done. >> now kind of independent of catastrophic russian drone that also because the reality is strike inside the war torn that if you're if you are living country. and we'll go through in a federal agency right now president trump's new tariff and you have seen what's proposal and the criticism from happened to people at usaid or a major conservative outlet. at the consumer financial protection bureau or other meanwhile, there are more legal places, you are now living in challenges to elon musk's fear. and there are a lot of ways in which this kind of the seemingly unchecked power within the federal government. we'll explain that, and we'll be behavior. >> the elon musk and. >> his team at dodge. have joined by a comedic legend and undertaken. there are a lot of one of the original snl cast ways in which supposed to operate. >> some of them. >> involve actually trying to members, chevy chase, is our cut things. some of them involve guest. ahead of this sunday's putting the fear of god into everybody about the possibility big 50th anniversary special. they're going to be able to cut things right. and i think the along with willie and me, we fear. >> is as.

>> much has as much of a have the co-host of our fourth pernicious effect as the actual question of. maybe a little bit hour contributing writer at the atlantic, jonathan lemire, and less than what you keep your job the host of way too early, ali or not. but it's now pervasive throughout the government that vitali. first things first, people see. >> elon musk running. >> amuck in the way that he is. so i think there's damage being everybody. it's valentine's day. done in either case. it is true, though, that the courts are willie. >> yes. >> and are you prepared for holding a very important line here, especially in the context valentine's day? of a republican majority in >> flowers have been ordered. congress that seems to have no >> jonathan lemire. interest in being in doing its part of asserting any >> there are plans. >> oh, really? constitutional. >> prerogatives. >> and is basically turning. >> plans are made. surprises? over all of its authority to the yes. oh, wow. wow. willie. okay. executive. >> so, dave. >> your piece is titled, well done. and went. actually. >> to. >> dinner last night. >> the resistance. >> is working. >> and you. >> last night? last night. >> point. >> out the resistance looks. >> went to dinner. >> last night. >> a little different this. >> ali vitali has. >> time. than it did. >> been reminding. >> everyone all week, so thank >> eight years ago. >> say it's. you for that. i wouldn't have >> not people marching. known it was valentine's day. >> in. >> the. >> streets, necessarily. you're talking about. >> resistance in. >> the courts. so, ali, you set to go? i love. >> you're talking about. >> resistance from. >> state. >> attorneys generals. >> love, i mean, so sue me. i >> so how is. >> it working? >> well, i think john. will say, my very sweet >> said it up. well, they're not valentine surprised me with stopping everything, but they had a plan a, plan b if they roses in the room that i get lost the election to organize lawsuits very early, find ready in this morning, so i. plaintiffs very early, as soon as they weren't sure if it would love very. very good. >> way to start. so joanna. be elon musk acting. but as soon >> in. >> the control. >> room says love is in the air. as the trump administration which is good. acted to cut staff, to stop what >> because i think at this point.

>> we need some good news. so organizations were doing to shut i'm thinking we're going to like down agencies, they were going change our programing up a bit. to sue instantly. and they have. willie, we'll do a little bit of so you had democracy forward and like, can we do some live on air skye perryman create this proposals on mj or something. coalition of liberal legal let's cut things up a little groups that are up to i talked bit. can you help me with that to this week, up to 400 that are with your today show connections? >> we'll work on that. we'll do involved in this in some way. and they're they're moving very some legal news first. yeah, quickly against the trump we'll get to. administration. that's also >> some pregnancy revelations. moving quicker than it did eight years ago. they did not have the alex korson, our producer. are same level of legal talent they you ready? have now. they were much more >> i'm ready. >> for the news. stymied, for example, with the muslim ban. that was their first >> okay. legal test eight years ago. they >> okay. >> so he is. the wet blanket. it's usually me. all right, kept losing and having to rewrite it. this time they are let's get started with the news. acting differently. they and happy valentine's day, everybody. after a very long that context is important. there week and it continues, the top is nothing that house democrats federal prosecutor in new york can do, senate democrats can do, or a lawyer can do. if somebody has resigned after. >> she. leaves this administration and >> refused to follow a justice department order to drop the corruption charges against new they don't get their job back in six months, if they if they win york mayor eric adams. acting the case, the nlrb is slightly u.s. attorney for the southern frozen there. there are a lot of district of new york danielle tools that the trump sassoon announced her administration is using to resignation in a brief statement shrink the administrative state. to colleagues, according to a i'm just saying the democrats senior official. sassoon knew that would happen, and they appealed wednesday to attorney were not naive in waiting for

general pam bondi and expressed him to move. i contradicted a her alarm at being ordered to little bit the idea that democrats are stymied. they're blown away. they can't they drop the case, according to a can't respond to this stuff in letter obtained by nbc news. she real time. members of congress and leadership are having wrote that she attended a trouble getting in the news meeting on january 31st with a cycle, but the attorneys are really not having trouble getting into court. >> i think also, though, dave, this is what we were talking meal. bovey, the acting u.s. about a little bit earlier, this idea of a decentralized deputy attorney general. adams, democratic party, it's not happening here in washington. attorney, and members of her and i take the point that office, quote adams attorneys heilemann is making about how the republican majorities in repeatedly urged what. amounted congress don't really want to to be a quid pro quo, indicating have good faith debates over what's happening here, because that adams would be in a the politics takes over. we can position to assist with the always ask the question, but as department's enforcement reporters often tell their editors, you can't make someone priorities only if the make news. you can't make these indictment were dismissed. mr. folks push against the administration, at least not bovey admonished a member of my yet. so at what point can people look at these legal challenges team who took notes during that that have slowed at least a lot meeting and directed the of the trump administration's collection of those notes at the efforts and say that is meeting's conclusion. the democrats, through an organized fashion, trying to push back, attorney for mayor adams, alex trying to stop this? can they shapiro, denied the allegations in a statement that reads in can they take good enough? part, quote, the idea that there >> well, democrats try to take was a quid pro quo is a total credit for it. you asked we asked chuck schumer for this lie. we offered nothing and the piece and other democrats in

department asked nothing of us. congress about it. and they they say, yes, we have a sassoon also revealed in that multi-pronged strategy. one, they won't say one of them is letter that her office was not working at all, which is having rallies and giving prepared to bring additional speeches that get turned into memes. that's not very charges against mayor adams, effective, but this is part of based on evidence that adams it. they're all in coordination. and the. evidence that it's destroyed, and instructed others to destroy evidence and provide false information to the fbi. working a little bit is the white house. is caroline leavitt adams was indicted last year on complaining about activist multiple criminal charges, judges saying that they are undermining an elected president? and i think everyone including bribery and fraud, watching this knows there are different branches. one of over his dealings with officials from the turkish government. he them's not elected. that's kind has maintained he did nothing of the point. the white house is stymied by this and irritated by this. there's a very dramatic wrong. at least five other example of this happening in new york as we as we speak in the justice department officials southern district. but have also resigned as a result democrats, i think, see some of the gun shyness they might have of bovi's order to dismiss. is for four years, they were in meanwhile, new york city mayor court against donald trump as a eric adams says he will issue an private citizen. and they didn't it didn't stop him from returning to the presidency. executive order allowing immigration and customs democrats don't necessarily want enforcement agents access to the to be the party that doesn't win elections, but does win win jail on rikers island. mayor lawsuits. but in this situation, they want to be the party that adams says the order would allow the agents to assist in criminal is defending one their investigations, with a focus on constituents in the federal workforce to the government violent criminals and gangs. the

itself. this is the party to a mayor announced the shift after fault really because it didn't a meeting with the trump help them in 2024, the party of administration's border czar, a large government that runs tom homan, yesterday. and this really well with a with a big staff. so this is part of it is morning, both adams and homan being a party of talented are set to make a joint lawyers who know how to gum appearance on fox news. let's things up. maybe they're not going to run ads on that in in bring in nbc news, national law new jersey and next year in virginia, where there are about enforcement and intelligence correspondent tom winter and 140,000 federal workers, i think it will help them. and people former assistant district will notice there's a republican attorney in manhattan, nbc news attorney general who's not suing to save their jobs, and there legal analyst catherine are democrats who are suing to christian. tom, i want to start do it. >> politics reporter for. with you on the reporting on semafor dave weigel. thank you very much, john heilemann, real this, because it's a lot it's a lot to take in. can you break quick. >> you know. >> if you want to talk about down exactly what we know about dave, just. talked about the one what happened here and why? this sign of that it's. >> working is the frustration on the part of people in the white. letter by danielle sassoon is, is so blistering and potentially >> house and. >> just cruising. >> charlie kirk, his twitter feed, and he says, you know, revealing. >> it is potentially revealing. last night he was tweeting, if >> because excuse me, so, so any judge in any court anywhere in the country can stop anything. rarely do we see the internal >> donald trump does, we don't. >> live in a democracy. that is communications between offices, a that is a kind of outflowing between the justice department of the kind of. >> frustration that they're. and the headquarters where they're based in main justice. >> starting to feel because they and so rarely do we see the back are being tied up in so many and forth that occurs in these courts, whether it's temporary cases. it to be clear, this back or not, and whether it's the

perfect solution or not. again, the court saved us in 2020, and and forth happens all the time. so this is not something that is the courts so far are holding at least some kind of a lie right that is unusual that there could now. they may be the only thing be issues about cases. what right now. makes this so extraordinary and >> all right. what i think people really need >> robert f kennedy jr. >> was sworn in. to understand here this morning >> as. >> the nation's health and is that the justice department human. >> services secretary yesterday. leadership under this administration doesn't care the senate confirmed kennedy 52 about your feelings. they don't care about what you think. they to. >> 48, with. >> every. don't care about all the smart >> democrat and republican legal points that catherine will senator mitch. >> mcconnell of kentucky. make about the precedent of this >> voting against his issue. and you will hear nomination. kennedy's team sent unprecedented today that this exploded into public view. the out. >> a. >> celebratory email. >> after the vote, which reads questions that sassoon raises in in part. her memo, which i'll get to >> quote, the future. about this particular case, >> of public. health is about. about the concerns about this >> to change forever. particular case, they are not losing any sleep, is not losing >> kennedy was sworn. >> in by. supreme court any sleep right now. the attorney general is not losing associate justice neil. gorsuch any sleep. her staff is not in. >> the. >> oval office. losing any sleep about what >> with president trump. >> in attendance. trump then. happened yesterday, with the exception of the fact that this signed an executive. case still remains open on the >> order establishing. >> the president's make america docket. they do want to get this wealthy again commission. its order of dismissal without first task will be to prejudice entered into it. so they need to find somebody who's investigate childhood chronic going to do that. everybody disease. again, senator mitch they've asked so far has resigned. that's maybe the only thing that they're losing sleep mcconnell of. about. they have come in in >> kentucky was.

>> the lone gop vote against. their eyes with a mandate, with >> robert f. an executive order from the >> kennedy jr's confirmation. >> he was. also the sole. president saying you will zealously support the efforts of >> republican who. >> voted against tulsi gabbard this administration. if it comes for dni. >> and also. to a point where we're either >> voted against pete hegseth. bringing a prosecution that's true to our agenda, or whether >> the former. >> senate republican leader you're defending the administration, when people issued a statement. >> about rfk. bring legal challenges, that is >> jr, writing in that statement your job. that is what they are yesterday, quote, i'm a telling their people. that is survivor. the executive order from the >> of childhood polio. in my president. so they have policies and some of them have experience lifetime, i've watched vaccines. in these areas. when we talk >> save millions. of lives from about cartels, when we talk about drugs, that might be very devastating diseases. >> across america and around. successful, if they're able to >> the world. i will not condone carry them out the way that they want to. but when you look at the relitigation of. proven cases like this, the issues that cures, and neither will. sassoon raises, it's something >> millions of. >> americans who credit their that i, we spoke about in our survival and quality of life to coverage earlier this week. eric adams right now can walk around scientific miracles. with one of those t-shirts that >> president trump. responded in says property of the united states government. and this is a the oval. >> office yesterday. question and an issue that she >> well, i feel sorry for mitch. raises in her memo yesterday, effectively saying, we are doing and i was one of the people that something that the courts have said he couldn't. he wanted to go to the end and he wanted to told us we cannot do, which is hold over a policy issue, over stay leader. he wasn't he's not equipped mentally. he wasn't somebody that we've charged and

equipped ten years ago, mentally, in my opinion, he let we're not supposed to be able to do that. and adams is in this the republican party go to hell. position now. and to be clear, the executive order that you but i was the one that got him referenced that he signed yesterday about putting ice people at the jail, he could to drop out of the leadership have done that six months ago. position. so he can't love me. he could have done that a year but he's not voting against ago. that's not something that bobby. he's voting against me. but that's all right. he is particularly new or that he's now allowed to do as a result of endorsed me. you know mitch mcconnell. do you know that all this. this is something that mitch endorsed me, right? do you law enforcement officials in the think that was easy? what? city have been calling for. if you have somebody who's a member >> he had. >> polio, obviously. >> and i don't know. i don't know anything about. he had of a venezuelan gang who's been charged with multiple violent polio. he had polio. offenses, why are we having a >> and are. >> you doubting. trial? why are we having an >> that he had polio? issue? have somebody at rikers >> i have no idea if he had who can say, that person is not in this country legally they're polio. all i can tell you about out. and so she raises that him is that he shouldn't have been a leader. he knows that. he voted against bobby. he voted concern. and then she raised the against almost everything. now he's a, you know, very bitter concern that this appears to be in her eyes. what it amounts to guy. >> we could definitively say is, she said, a quid pro quo, mitch mcconnell had polio. >> despite what president. basically, i'll do what you guys >> trump has been casting doubt want me to do on immigration. i need these charges to be at the there. >> and a few things i know, you know, in washington. very least, tabled, if not dismissed. >> and that's what democrats. >> there's some certainly some. >> in the city have been saying. >> democrats like. >> it's a little. late leader mcconnell to suddenly. be >> for days. >> now, that. standing up. >> to donald. >> trump and to remind the >> that mayor adams. >> is simply going to do president. president trump's bidding. we >> there mcconnell. >> when during trump's first have heard prominent members.

term. >> of congress. we've had. state >> when he was majority. >> leader, ushered. and local. >> lawmakers suggesting he needs >> in much of trump's agenda, to resign. >> there's been reporting that including. help steering numerous supreme court justices, adams may run for. >> reelection this year as a you know. and blocked merrick republican. switched parties. you know, there's pressure. garland from getting a spot. >> on governor hochul. >> there. >> to try to force him out of. >> the year. >> before trump. >> took office. but john >> office because. hammond, you know. >> the there is. >> a there's. >> he is in his, you know, the >> a mechanism where she could potentially. >> do that because this idea. waning. >> days of his time in the >> that he's no longer. >> independently governing the senate. >> has made. >> some principled stances. city. >> but rather doing. >> here against. >> some of trump's. >> you know, nominees. >> what what donald trump wants. so, catherine. >> he also has broken. >> let's talk. >> with him on ukraine policy. >> about the. >> he has said publicly. >> why. >> this is set up the way it is, >> mcconnell has, that he. wants how. >> unusual, if it is. ukraine and. >> unusual that that. >> continued u.s. support of. >> the dismissal. >> of the cases were. >> done without. >> ukraine to. >> be the like. the signature >> prejudice, the idea that it. part of his legacy even. >> could be. >> returned, that the charges could. >> but right now, he seems like a lone voice crying in the >> be brought back on adams. >> if he doesn't. >> do carry. >> out trump's. wilderness. >> immigration policy. >> it's yolo, mitch. basically. >> let's say, and then just speak about the. yeah. you know, all of a sudden we're seeing him and i, you >> crisis, if you will, in know, who would have thought office. >> you know. >> well that the mass. that we would find yourself in a >> resignations an open situation given a lot of rebellion. it would. mcconnell's behavior in, in the >> seem that s.d.n.y. latter part of his career, in >> well. >> unusual is too light a word. particular, that we would be >> yeah. >> shocking. extraordinary. it saying, gosh. >> it'd be. >> great if the rest the just doesn't happen. and any republican. >> party was. >> more like mitch. but but he is in that he is, you. prosecutor, any ethical prosecutor. you're always >> know. fearful. you're not always >> he is really behaving like someone who is free of all fearful because you work for

political potential, political consequence. and both things can be true at the same time that decent people, that you don't that has freed him to, to take want a boss to tell you some votes that he. prosecute that person and >> that, that. there's no basis for it, or >> that are, that seem sensible on the, on the merits and that don't prosecute that person out of fear or favor. and you have a he would never have taken before. but also the democrats prosecutor here, miss sassoon. kind of look at it and. >> go. >> you know, gosh, you would she's now resigned, who have been. >> great if you'd. basically said, no, we're not >> been around a guy like. >> you had been around. doing that. we're we have a last >> in the past a little sooner. >> all right. september, damian williams, the >> still ahead, democratic former u.s. attorney, gave a lawmakers, congresswoman mike cheryl and congressman jared moskowitz are standing. press conference and he talked about this being a long running >> by with their take. >> on today's politics. >> plus. >> oscar nominated actor. conspiracy, a legal campaign, >> chiwetel ejiofor. >> will join the. contributions, over $100,000 in >> conversation to discuss his new film, bridget jones mad first class luxury trips. these about the boy. are all allegations. but these were against the mayor of the >> also ahead. live from new york. city of new york. a search >> it's saturday. >> night, one of. warrant was executed on gracie >> the original snl cast mansion. that's the home of the members, emmy winning. comedian mayor of the city of new york. chevy chase. >> is here. never happened before. so now, >> ahead of. >> the show's. six months later. okay, you >> 50th anniversary special. and know, if you again, this is speaking of snl. allegation if you agree to our >> willie. >> what are you up to for sunday? >> today we. immigration agenda will dismiss >> put together the best of our this case, but we'll dismiss it snl cast. with prejudice, because if you >> member sunday. >> sit down. yeah. >> tina fey, you've. don't, we're going to bring it back. that's the appearance. and >> got jimmy fallon. seth

meyers. >> i wrote a few of. that's basically, quite frankly, what mr. suen said in a letter >> them down will. >> ferrell, maya rudolph. >> lorne michaels, bill. happened. dismissal with >> hader. >> julia louis-dreyfus. prejudice without prejudice. >> tracy morgan, john. immigration agenda. you don't do >> mulaney. >> fred armisen. oh my god, bill the immigration agenda. we'll murray, kenan thompson, kate bring back the indictment. so mckinnon, andy samberg, the list that's shocking, outrageous, goes on and on. >> amy poehler right there. extraordinary. and it's disheartening. and i'm not surprised that all of these >> so you're going. >> to. >> see the. >> best of all the. prosecutors resigned. >> interviews we've done. >> over about nine years with. >> and the. snl cast. members talking about >> current acting u.s. attorneys their. >> auditions. throughout the country, the >> which were all. >> terrifying. >> and their experiences with people who have been nominated to be u.s. attorneys, they have the show. >> mike meyers. >> right there as well. to look in the mirror and ask >> so a celebration of. >> snl 50 this sunday on sunday. themselves, do i want to be in today, we'll be right back. that same position? and they have to decide, are they going to go forward. and agree to be the u.s. attorney, or are they going to resign as current >> i've always been an active acting u.s. attorneys are going to wait and see what happens? person biking, running. >> as you said, tom, the >> but yoga, it's really special administration now has the mayor to me. it's definitely a big. of the america's largest city in >> part of who i am. its back pocket, and they're >> and i love the. way it makes parading around as mika just me feel. said, they're going to be on >> but there was a time not long door knocks on fox and friends ago when i felt i had to accept with tom homan doing all these the idea of hanging up this old appearances, doing effectively yoga mat. you see, i have whatever they need him to do on symptomatic. obstructive hcm immigration. and we should also which. >> left me. >> so short of breath i just point out that this is not some

couldn't get out here making me. >> feel like a bystander. screaming new york lefty. she >> in my own life. so i talked clerked she clerked for justice to. >> my cardiologist. >> and he told. >> me about cam. he said cam scalia. she's a federal society judge. she's very, very works. >> by targeting what's causing conservative in the classic my obstructive hcm. so he sense that we understand prescribed it and i'm so. conservatism, not in a sort of a >> thankful he did. kim's icu's trumpist maga sense, but what is used to treat adults. are the implications now for the >> with symptomatic obstructive hcm may improve your symptoms judicial system writ large if, and your ability to be active. as you say, the message is get >> kim icu's may cause serious on board or you're gone. side effects including heart failure. >> that can lead to. >> i think there's extraordinary >> death, a. >> risk that's increased if you as far as implications of this. develop. >> a serious infection. >> or irregular heartbeat, or look, it's the same thing with when taking certain other medicines. so do not stop, start the fbi. i mean, it's very clear or change. >> medicines or the dose without where the third rails are with telling your health care an investigation or opening an investigation or continuing with provider. you must have echocardiograms. >> before and during treatment. the prosecution. with this >> seek help. administration, they have their >> if you experience new or defined priorities, as i alluded worsening symptoms of heart failure. because of this risk, to before. but one of the things cam is only available. that we've been talking about to >> through. >> a restricted program. before taking cam, cios tell your bring back some of our fbi coverage on this, in another in doctor about all of your medical. >> conditions. another memo that was sent from >> including current or planned the justice department where pregnancy. >> with cam. >> reducing my symptoms, i've they said you were being gone from. insubordinate, at least the >> sitting on. memos that have become public, >> the. >> sidelines to being back in the game. >> my name is stephanie. it's very clear that one, they >> and this is my. want you to do exactly what

>> cam moment. their mission states, as i >> call your. mentioned earlier. but two, what >> cardiologist today and see if a cam icu's moment may be in is the incentive to open an investigation into anyone tied your future to. to the trump orbit or anybody >> i'm howie. who should be under >> mandel. >> the newest ambassador. investigation? but maybe that >> of skechers. >> funny story. cuts against some of the some of >> how i became an ambassador. >> i went to the store and i the ideals or some of the some lied. >> and said i was an ambassador. of the priorities of the trump >> do i get a discount? administration. why would you do >> do i get a discount? >> the own that, willy? why would you possibly open up that investigation, go down certain avenues? what does that ultimately do to people's respect for and understanding of law in this country? there will be people that will will vocally because they're in my email and on social media, tell me we really don't care. thank you. we elected donald trump to do x, y, and z, and the justice department needs to play along with x, y, and z. there is a component of the country that absolutely feels that way. but there's another component of this country that feels obviously quite differently. and that's politics. >> of this are i mean, adams has been openly. >> courting this, right? >> he went to mar-a-lago, he went to the inauguration. he is. >> desperate to have these charges dropped. he was seeking.

>> a pardon. >> instead, we have this. and then to tom's point, what this is saying from. >> the white house is. >> there's not going to be a separation between what. >> the white house political. >> arm is and the department of justice. they're going to carry out his bidding no matter what precedent. >> it certainly sends that message. one more legal story before you go. officials in louisiana are seeking to prosecute a new york doctor after she sent abortion pills to a louisiana resident. new york governor kathy hochul rejected a request to extradite the doctor after louisiana governor jeff landry signed the extradition warrant, hochul stated that she will never, under any circumstances, turn the physician over to louisiana. doctor margaret carpenter was charged with allegedly prescribing and shipping abortion medication to a pregnant teenager in west baton rouge parish last month. the mother was also indicted on a felony charge for purchasing the abortion pills, but she has not

>> measles and. been identified to protect the >> wide leg jeans. >> are back. privacy of her teenage daughter. >> but don't. the case is the first known >> worry, we. >> have a. criminal indictment of a doctor >> new health czar. >> bobby brainworm is on the being charged with sending job. rfk jr was confirmed today abortion pills across state as our new secretary of health lines, after roe v wade was and human services. by a vote of overturned, to note new york has 52 to 48. mitch mcconnell was a shield law in place which the only. republican to vote no. prohibits state and local law mitch mcconnell is 82 years old. enforcement from cooperating he survived. >> polio as a kid. with extraditions or arrests of >> and thanks. persons charged with health care >> to rfk jr. provisions that are lawful in >> polio might get. >> another run at him. new york. and that could be what >> gosh. >> welcome back to. >> morning joe. it's friday, what helps with this case? february 14th. happy valentine's >> new york saw this happening in the future and passed. this day. jonathan lemire. >> john. >> heilemann, still with us. and law protects reproductive health joining the conversation, we. care providers from out of state >> have nbc. >> news and msnbc political investigations, prosecutions, analyst, former u.s. senator civil liability and extradition. claire mccaskill. claire. >> it's. >> great to have you on board and that's what governor hochul is relying on. >> but it's still sending such a this morning, also with us, democratic. congresswoman mikie chilling message to doctors who sherrill of new jersey. she's a. are trying to give women access retired navy helicopter pilot to what is, at times, life and member of the house armed saving health care. and here we go. any promises of any type of services committee. >> she is. >> also running. progress on lowering abortion >> for the democratic nomination

bans or trying to make things in her state's governor's race. and a mother of four. better for women in america >> the list goes on. appears not to be happening. >> mikey. congresswoman, let's that appears to be moving get to our top story here. the forward just as is, which is a top federal. prosecutor in new york. has resigned after. she horrific situation for the state refused to. follow a justice of women in america in terms of their health care. alec vitale, department order to drop the give us some context of this. corruption charges against new you were reporting on this for york mayor. eric adams, acting way too early and why some of these laws were in place. u.s. attorney for the southern >> and this is actually a case district of new york danielle that's really important. sassoon announced her resignation in a brief statement catherine and probably tom too, can talk about why a lot of to colleagues. according to a senior official. sassoon lawmakers, including pat ryan, appealed wednesday to attorney who is the lawmaker that represents the area where this general pam bondi and expressed doctor practices. of course, her alarm at being ordered to you've got kathy hochul now engaged in this legal battle. drop the case. >> according to. a blistering. but it's really important because this is an example, one >> letter obtained by nbc news. of the earliest of red states she wrote that she attended a trying to build upon the dobbs meeting on january 31st with decision that, of course, emil bove, the acting u.s. curtailed the right of women to deputy attorney general. adams, access abortion care. so i think it's really important that we attorney, and members of her that we point out the fda office, quote, adams attorneys approved mifepristone, which is repeatedly urged what amounted the abortion pill, medication to a quid pro quo, indicating we've seen that come under legal

that adams would be in a challenges to in recent years. position to assist with the but then there's also the fact department's enforcement that during the pandemic, the fda said you can prescribe and priorities only if the indictment were dismissed. mr. send the abortion pill through the mail. that was a time where bove admonished a member of my telehealth was being expanded. team who took notes during that so an important way of trying to meeting and directed the collection of those notes at the make this care more accessible. then, of course, at the state level, you've got restrictions meeting's conclusion. coming into play. so now it's a >> the attorney. patchwork again of rules, where >> for mayor adams, alex spiro, denied the allegations in a in some states you can get this statement that reads in part, medication, in other states you quote, the idea that there was a can't. that is of course the crux of this, but it really does quid pro quo is a total lie. we present the question. right, catherine? that that where offered nothing and the basically questioning now in department asked nothing of us. this case, are we a country that sassoon also revealed in that is willing to potentially criminalize and go after letter that her. office was providers and criminalize or go prepared to bring additional after patients? it's sort of charges against mayor adams, been the next frontier in this based on evidence that adams reproductive health care battle, destroyed, and instructed others right? >> oh, well. to destroy evidence and provided >> clearly louisiana is doing. >> that, of course. false information to the fbi. >> and we can't i mean, new york has, you know, this great shield adams was indicted last year on law. not all states have that law. so if you're a doctor in multiple criminal charges, including bribery and fraud, another state and you don't have a law or a governor who is going over his dealings with officials from the turkish government. he to protect you, you're just not

has maintained that he did going to provide this reproductive health care. and so nothing wrong. at least five that will have a chilling effect. if more states like other justice department officials. have also resigned as louisiana does this. >> we'll be following this. a result of bove's order to msnbc legal analyst catherine christian, thank you so much for dismiss claire mccaskill. your being on this morning and nbc news, national law enforcement take on this. and intelligence correspondent >> well. tom winter, thank you as well. >> this prosecutors across. >> the country are. >> tremendously proud. coming up, an update from the >> of this woman. >> i think. that the. cold munich security conference in bucket of. germany, as vice president jd >> water that was dumped on vance lays out the trump prosecutors all across the country, state, local, federal. administration's position on ukraine. the washington post was the letter from beauvais david ignatius is there and joins our discussion straight instructing her to dismiss the ahead on morning joe. case. and here's what what about that letter was so alarming? typically, mika, there's. only >> i'm howie mandel. >> the. >> newest ambassador of two. reasons that a case would skechers. >> funny story. >> how i became. be dismissed after filing, and >> an ambassador. >> i went. >> to the store and i. those are. based on either the >> lied and said i was an ambassador. >> do i get a discount? soundness of the legal arguments. >> in terms. >> of where the facts apply to the law, or secondly. >> the. >> quality and quantity of the evidence. there has to be. >> a problem with one.

>> of those two for a case to be dismissed ethically. and they admitted trump's justice department. this guy beauvais. >> admitted in this. >> letter they had not considered. >> either one. >> of those things. that's called political corruption. that's called using politics to influence the application of a law in this country. and it was startling when i read that letter because, you know, having been in the position to make terribly hard decisions about charging someone, you have to be >> do i get a discount? >> the owner called me and krista, it's time to fess up.. abooooouttttt? you're over 45 and still haven't screened for colon cancer! we all knew. this is like the third year she's turned 44... mmmmok. i wasn't ready! drink all that prep?! cancel brunch plans?! ask for cologuard®. it's a one-of-a-kind way to screen for colon cancer that's effective and non-invasive. no prep and you use it at home. false positive and negative results may occur. those at high risk should use colonoscopy. skip the drama. ask your provider or request cologuard online. >> the critical news coverage. >> that sling provides. guided by the law and the evidence. and not. >> all of. >> this bs that the trump justice. >> department is using. i mean, the. >> greatest city in the world deserves better than eric adams. i just. >> hope new yorkers. >> are paying attention. >> i think they are. claire. we'll see what happens. he's got an. >> election coming. >> up here. let's talk. >> more broadly. >> take this case just about how the justice. >> system is. >> holding up in this first month or so of the second trump

administration. >> we talked. >> in our last segment about. >> in many ways, it. >> is pushing back. >> it's suggesting that all these. >> executive orders crossed. >> the line and. >> are not legal and kept. >> in place. >> at least some of the things that. donald trump is trying to. >> pull away. >> but what. >> is the challenge. >> going forward. >> that sling provides. >> okay, see tap into etsy for home and style staples to help you set any vibe. >> when we have loyalty. from custom lighting under 150 dollars to vintage jackets under 100. for affordable pieces to help you make a fresh start, etsy has it. >> tests at. i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks! —uh. —here i'll take that. [cheering] ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar >> the fbi. >> loyalty tests. and a protein blend to feed muscles up to 7 hours. ♪♪ tariffs on all major u.s. trading partners. the order does >> among federal. >> judges. not give a firm timeline for the >> donald trump and. >> his people are pushing. >> and pushing and seeing. tariffs. senate commerce >> how far they can go. secretary nominee howard lutnick >> what do you see. said the administration would >> as the. >> end game here? look at countries one by one, >> i think it's. >> really. with a final report expected by >> difficult to see right now. a lot of this is going to be in april 1st. the president yesterday was pressed by the lap of our court system. you reporters about the possible know, i guess. >> i've never been more. impact of more tariffs. >> grateful for lifetime appointments in the federal judiciary, because nobody there >> what's the. >> timeline consumers expect? has to worry. >> about losing their. >> are prices. >> job. like some. >> going to go up? short term. >> of the cowardly. >> long term necessarily. i >> republicans in the united states senate that are bending a mean, not necessarily. but i'll knee for. really incompetent and tell you what will go up is jobs. the jobs will go up tremendously. we're going to inappropriate cabinet members. have great jobs. jobs for so we'll see if the courts hold everybody. up. >> we'll see how. line >> mr. president, because of these tariffs, who do you think

prosecutors. >> and just trust. voters should hold responsible. >> me, as somebody. >> who's been. >> oh, i think what's going to >> in this system, the. >> vast majority. go up is jobs are going to go up >> of the fbi, if they lean any way. >> they lean. and prices could go up somewhat >> right, not left. short term, but prices will also >> and the vast. >> majority of the prosecutors go down. there could be some in this country are are not short term disturbance. but long term it's going to it's going to doing anybody's political bidding. they are trying to make our country a fortune. protect their communities. and >> so americans. if they hollow out the fbi and >> should prepare for some short term pain. >> you said that. i didn't say they hollow out the department that. >> well. of justice from. >> if the prices go up. >> and let's see what happens, >> all with all the. nobody really knows what is >> skilled people that are in. going to happen. >> those agencies. >> all right. >> so far, trump has implemented >> right now protecting america. only one set of the series of >> i mean, all this talk they have. >> about wanting to get bad tariffs. he has announced an guys. >> really, this is how. additional 10% levy on chinese >> you go about it. you, you you nominate a guy to head the fbi that says he wants to close the imports, a 25% tax on steel and fbi headquarters and. >> make it. >> a museum. that's the way you aluminum imports announced this attack. violent crime in this week, as well as 25% duties on country. it's just crazy. and i imports from canada and mexico hope americans are paying that trump suspended would not attention. it's hard. >> to pay attention because go into effect until early everybody. >> is drinking out of a fire march, so this will have a huge hose right now. with all the impact ultimately on american nonsense that's coming out of the oval office. consumers willing. >> yeah, prices are going to go >> mayor adams is. is making an up. >> we are hearing from the wall appearance. >> or made an appearance this

street journal editorial board. >> yeah, they've been consistent morning on fox news with homan. on this. they're writing trump's tariff stress tests. the piece so, i don't know, it seems kind reads, is president trump trying of obvious, but perhaps we just to put markets through a stress test? it feels like it. stocks leave it there for now. rallied thursday after mr. trump congresswoman, i'd like to ask announced a temporary reprieve from the global reciprocal you about the legal challenges tariffs he threatened earlier this week. try to catch your that that elon musk's doge moves breath before his next blunderbuss tariff shot. trump's are seeing right now, attorneys, willy nilly tariff threats on generals across the country to one day off the next create all these cuts and changes that business uncertainty that will they're making outside of the hurt u.s. investment and hiring. mr. trump's tariff threats process. what's your take and encourage other countries to get closer to beijing. u.s. what's members of democratic businesses are huffing and members of congress take on puffing, but xi jinping is this? is there any more action smiling, writes the editorial that can be taken to push back, board of the wall street or are you feeling a little journal. and ali, you spoke to a member of donald trump's team, powerless at this point? no. i think. his economic team, yesterday, >> it's striking. how effective. >> some. and asked the very obvious >> of the pushback has. question won't prices go up with >> been so far. >> where in. these new tariffs? >> the courts especially. >> you've seen. >> a very obvious question. one, >> the judges. you saw the president there was >> stopping the ability to. asked himself, and he actually >> shut down. used very similar language to >> all federal. >> funding places. >> like head start and. what his top economist told me >> meals on wheels. >> that we were. yesterday on msnbc. just listen

>> seeing. >> the pause. >> that took place, that was to that exchange. can you, ended. >> we're seeing elon musk being without invoking the past pushed out of treasury. administration, guarantee that >> the courts. >> have pushed. prices won't rise because of >> him out of that. these tariffs? >> just last. >> night, we saw a decision that >> i know prices move up, prices said that we have to fulfill. move down. that's the way the >> our. >> federal contracts on foreign world works, right? the economy. aid. >> so ending. >> but you're an economist. >> that program. >> and then what's so striking. >> you forecast trends. >> to me here. >> no no. >> too. >> no no. >> consumers see prices rise. >> is you're seeing. >> by my expectation is that >> pushback at the u.s. attorney's office, says. >> now, danielle. prices will fluctuate and that >> sassoon, the. >> yeah, i mean. when economists study the >> she is. >> no. >> liberal icon. fluctuations of the prices, that >> she's a member of the they'll wonder what the causes federalist society. yeah. she were. and there will be many. you know, she clerked for and so am i confident that there justice scalia. won't be strong evidence of a >> this is coming. >> down to people who are loyal price effect of tariffs? yes, i to the constitution. >> or people who are loyal to am confident. trump. >> what are you. >> hearing from constituents >> so he's saying he's confident. look, that's a clip about. any of this, if at all, that we can save for later and are you oh. see if it actually ends up being >> i'm. >> hearing from constituents. right. but it's exactly what the >> tell me, in new jersey, we president then echoed about an hour or so later when he are we. >> are. >> not standing aside for this. actually put these reciprocal >> i've had rallies. tariffs into effect, or at least >> we've had town halls with the starting bell for them. but supreme court experts. i think frank brings up a lot of >> we have. >> a strategy to legislate, really good points here, like litigate and mobilize. and so. the idea that there are open questions about if these tariffs we've seen the litigation. will include carve outs for

>> we've just. industries like the automotive >> talked about. >> how effective that has been industry. that's something that on capitol hill, we have already and how in the. >> states. >> we are seeing the u.s. heard some murmurs about attorneys across the nation agitating to have carve outs standing up. against what's. like that. there are questions going on in washington. we know about if this violates world we have legislative priorities trade agreements. and then, of coming up. >> where if. course, the way that it impacts >> the republicans are going to just the alliances and trade need. >> democratic votes, which it partnerships that we have on the is. >> likely they will. from what world stage. so a lot of we are hearing. >> you know. questions there. and then, of course, what the wall street >> we will make some basic journal has said. mika. demands, at the least, that the >> absolutely. >> and also, just very quickly. president of the united states >> some of this is just. follow. the law and the court negotiations trump has had. orders, and then we're >> for years now said. mobilizing. we're seeing people. >> tariffs have to be part of >> not just. >> not just in the streets. this. >> so he's got at least fall >> in new jersey. >> i was. >> just on the mall. through to. >> a time. >> with. >> that's telling that. >> this has been pushed off >> federal workers to. stand up for the 22,000 federal workers. till. >> april before it actually i mean, this. >> is. starts or. >> later, depending on the >> everybody from air. study. >> will suspect that. >> traffic controllers. >> to the people who check your >> could be what he says he eggs to make sure they're safe. means. >> i think, you know. and i'm hearing again, from >> certainly people are people on the. expecting these to come in some >> ground. form, but perhaps not to quite >> people who are afraid to fly, people. degree. >> who are concerned. >> but there seems to be an >> about their social security obsession, willie, to blame and medicare. >> a woman. these the impacts, the consequences of some of these >> working for the epa in new policies on joe biden or go back jersey who was telling me she to obama and even saw it gets. emails every day actually in a news conference encouraging her to take that yesterday with president trump fork in the road to quit when we going back many presidents and know how important the work that blaming the war on ukraine. i they are doing is right now. mean, it just are.

>> congresswoman, what do you say to. >> well. >> part of it, we won't go. we >> democrats who are really worried right. >> now who are panicked. >> as they watch? they feel won't dig deep into that. >> there's a connection between like. >> this. last three and a half ukraine and inflation, which is that donald trump on the weeks, the government just being campaign trail suggested he stripped. away. effectively. would wave a wand, and on day >> we have an fbi. one, he'd get a deal to end the >> director incoming. >> who likely. >> incoming. >> as claire said. war in ukraine and the prices >> wants to shut. >> down the fbi. would come down. now, gas, >> headquarters where. >> you. >> have incoming. groceries prices have gone up >> likely head of the since then and may go up further department. >> of education closed the if these tariffs actually come department of education. >> you have. to pass. >> robert f. >> right. and there'll be no one >> kennedy jr, who. that they can blame it on. these >> is skeptical. >> to put it mildly. are trump's tariffs coming up. >> of vaccines. people worried. >> about what's going to happen with vaccines. you can go down is the resistance to president the list. >> the head. trump actually working. our next >> of. >> the dni, who's very. fond of guest has new reporting on the vladimir. >> putin and. >> assad, and people go, oh my effort to push back on the gosh, we're losing. administration's policies. >> everything right now. >> what do you say to them? >> well. >> we are pushing back effectively in many areas, but it's up to us. i mean. >> if we. >> want to save our democracy, if we want to preserve the values and institutions we have, we have to get engaged. so if you're sitting on the sidelines and waiting. >> for. >> somebody to ask you to get engaged. >> i am. >> asking you right now and i don't think social media is enough. >> i don't think. >> it's going to be enough.

>> to be an armchair warrior. >> you have to get out in your communities. you have to be on the streets. you have to be mobilizing right now because this is unusual. it's very scary. and we are. seeing why democracy isn't just about voting rights. democracy is about ensuring that everyone has a fair shot that you don't, for example, have to give hundreds of thousands of dollars to trump's campaign to start a small business, or to be able to have go to a good college or go. >> to a. >> good school, that in a democracy, anybody has a shot. >> and that's. >> what we're seeing threatened to all americans right now. >> congressman, let's talk about. >> democracies overseas. you have a military background. >> you serve. >> on. >> the house armed services committee. >> let's get. >> your reaction to what you've heard from the president and the administration. >> this week about. >> ukraine, suggesting that the nation should not be considered for nato, that it will not reclaim all of its territory seized illegally, of course. >> by russia during. >> this conflict. you know, as it seems like we're heading towards the negotiating table, what do you think of the stance

the administration is taking? >> yeah, so i was in ukraine about ten days. >> before the war started. >> and then thereafter. >> i've been back. >> and i'll tell you, the people there have. >> been. >> working incredibly hard to preserve a democracy, knowing what it looks like under putin's rule. and to now have trump go to the negotiating table already giving away one of our key negotiating points, ceding that administration's policies. morning joe is back in a m (♪♪) some people just know they could save hundreds on car insurance by checking allstate first. like you know to check first that you bought seats in the right section. kansas fans, get on your feet! boo! boo! yeah, checking first is smart. so check allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds. oh, yeah. we'll see! oh, yeah! help yourself. wow! you're in good hands with allstate. socks, underwear and t-shirts are the most requested items in homeless shelters. bombas was founded to help. to putin is just what so many of so one purchased equals one donated, with 140 million donations and counting. visit bombas.com and get 20% off your first order. we've never spoken. but you've told us many things. that you love stargazing, hate parallel parking, and occasionally, your right foot gets a little heavy. the lexus es didn't begin in a studio — it began with you. ♪♪ it all started with a small business idea. it's a pillow with a speaker in it! that's right craig. pulling in the perfect team to get the job done. i'm just here for the internets. at&t, it's super-fast! you locked us out?! and when thrown a curveball... arrggghh! ahhhh! [crashing sounds] we had everything we needed. is the internet out? don't worry, we have at&t internet back-up. the next level network for small business. ♪♪ i sold a pillow! number one most. >> visited car shopping site, we. >> make sure your big deal is us were concerned about. we know that this is a president that is the best deal. not immune to flattery. >> and putin. >> i've always been an active >> knows that, too. so we were person. biking, running. but very worried about him being manipulated on the world scene. yoga, it's really special to me. and i think we're seeing that it's definitely a big part of now. so the editorial board of who i am and i love the way it the financial times writes about makes me feel. but there. trump's dangerous approach to >> was. >> a time not long ago. peace in ukraine. that piece >> when i felt i. >> had to accept the idea of reads in part this the president's approach looks hanging up this old yoga mat. you see, i have symptomatic alarmingly like a path to the obstructive hcm. >> which left me so. >> short. sell out. his partners had >> of breath. >> i just couldn't. feared. european leaders must >> get out here. making me feel like a. >> bystander in my. own life. use all means they can to try >> so i talked to my and talk trump round to a more cardiologist and he told. >> me about cam. >> he said cam works.

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>> msnbc presents a new original seem that he's ceding most of podcast hosted by jen psaki. each week, she and her guests the positive outcome for explore how the democratic party vladimir putin. yeah. is facing this political moment >> the president's ego is so. and where it's headed next. the >> big. >> he actually. believes that he blueprint with jen psaki. listen now. doesn't need any allies around >> here we go. in three two. the world. and that puts us in a >> jason sudeikis. very dangerous position. the >> yeah. >> hi. >> i'm fred. notion that he would begin >> armisen. >> pete davidson. ceding territory to putin >> leslie jones. >> hi i'm sally field. >> good evening, ladies and without even talking to our gentlemen, and. >> welcome to the. european allies. i mean, nato >> saturday night show. >> get off the ship. has been a very successful >> okay, now, what you gonna do? military alliance. it is there >> oh, no. >> no, no. >> thank you so much. >> that's all. >> thank you very much. >> i appreciate it. to protect us, and it has worked >> thank you very much. thank you. thanks. >> thank you. very, very well. and the notion >> thank you very much. thank you. that he would try to go into a >> very much. >> thank you, thank you, thank. >> you. >> very much. thank you. negotiation by calling our >> bye. >> overnight, a russian drone adversary. >> and beginning. >> to. strike hit the protective >> deal without. >> even. >> consulting our allies or, containment shell of the frankly, without beginning with chernobyl nuclear power plant. ukraine, who we have been trying despite the attack with a highly to protect. >> with american. >> tax dollars since russia explosive warhead, radiation levels at the plant have not invaded them and tried to take increased. according to

over their country in an illegal president volodymyr zelensky and war. so it is really, you know, a u.n. agency. a kremlin spokesman said that it was it. backwards how. >> he's going. responsible for the strike. it >> about this. >> and i would. comes as vice president jd vance >> i would ask congresswoman is set to meet with president cheryl and. zelensky today at the munich >> you know, as somebody. >> who has served in the security conference, president military, as. someone who has. trump spoke about his negotiations with russian president vladimir putin flown helicopters, as. someone yesterday. who sees pete hegseth. >> russia has gotten themselves >> as really. >> having an attitude, a public into something that i think they wish they didn't. if i were attitude that women like you are president, it would not have not needed in the military, and happened, absolutely would not that, even worse, that women have happened. and it didn't like you somehow subtract from happen for four years. i think our strength. tell me what this that when you look at ukraine feels like to the people. and when you look at the mess >> who have been. >> training, and the people who. that they're in, it's got to be ended and it's got to be >> have been working on. stopped. now, russia has taken >> arming ukraine, and the people who understand what it over a pretty big chunk of means. if donald trump puts up territory, and they also have the white flag. >> to. >> vladimir putin. >> it's so. incredibly upsetting said from day one, long before president putin, they've said to those of us. they cannot have ukraine be a >> who believe deeply in nato. they said that very democracy, to those of. >> us who have worked. strongly. i actually think that >> across the world with our

that was the thing that caused allies and. the start of the war. but as far >> know that. >> we never fight alone as the as the negotiation, it's too united states of america, that we've had key allies we've been early to say what's going to building since world war two, happen. maybe russia will give that we've set up. up a lot, maybe they won't. and >> a rules based. it's all dependent on what is >> order across. >> the. >> world for democracy and going to happen. the negotiation democratic institutions and really hasn't started. economic institutions that have >> so the word negotiation is created fair playing fields for being used here and not sure u.s. companies around the world. exactly what's being negotiated, >> so to see all. >> of this being rolled back, a european official tells nbc and i don't. news nato allies were blindsided >> think it's. >> it's i don't. by trump's call with putin. the >> think. >> it's unintentional. i think trump has been attempting, since official says there is also frustration that defense his last administration to secretary pete hegseth said realign the united states away publicly that ukraine should from democracies and towards abandon its hopes of nato membership as part of a peace people like putin, like deal, effectively making concessions to russia before, president for life. xi like the north korean dictator, seeing quote, negotiations have even that as a pathway that he would started, by the way, that was like to emulate. and it's very president trump alongside dangerous. and i'm very. india's prime minister modi >> hopeful. >> as you know, the munich yesterday in the news conference. joining us now live security conference is coming up from munich, columnist and this weekend. we know that associate editor for the washington post, david ignatius. people like vice president vance david, your analysis on what the will be there. and i am praying that sitting there face to face president has said and also these conversations that he's

with our traditional allies, having directly with putin. remembering who fights with us and remembering what we fight >> so make behind me is the for and why it's so critically packed lobby of the hotel where important, will ignite within the munich security conference this administration some sense is taking place. everybody is of how important our allies are jostling. it's like a huge across the world, and i hope dinner party where everybody is that it will reignite in them a trying to get a seat. >> and that's. desire to protect democracy here >> kind of a metaphor for me of what's going on in these at home and across the world. negotiations. everybody is trying to figure out what >> so, congresswoman, i want to go back to the top of the positions the us is taking, how conversation we were talking to respond to them, and the about. about the. >> how's the resistance working? positions have been all over the how does. >> the. >> pushback working? and you pointed to the court's totally map. president trump's initial legit. one of the things in description of his meeting with among democrats that we saw or his conversations with after the election was naturally, like a lot of vladimir putin was very warm. it introspection, people talking about how do we change? we. led people to worry that trump >> were we had a. might be getting ready to sell >> pretty. >> bad election cycle. out ukraine. similar comments by >> you have an election two years from now. the party does. pete hegseth denying ukraine the it's the next time when there's a chance to win back some actual likelihood of membership in nato power in the legislative branch. added to those worries. in the do you where do you think that discussion stands now? because trump takes up so much oxygen following two days, we've had below the line, below the people pulling back some of those comments to the point that surface, democrats are having a vice president j.d. vance has still a robust debate about. said yesterday that the us might

should why would we need to change messaging? do we need to want to put tariffs on russia change what the party stands and might even send troops into for? where is that discussion and where do you think it needs ukraine to guarantee the peace to go? >> so i actually have an election coming up less than one agreement. the very thing that year from now. president trump had said two >> i know you, i know. >> you do. days before wouldn't happen. so >> set the table. >> if. there's a lot of confusion >> you will. >> for those 2026 elections. so those conversations. during the three days of this >> are are happening now in real conference here in munich, where time. yeah. >> and you know. every foreign national security >> as i've said, we can't simply official from around the world be the party that is anti-trump gathers, there's going to be and pro-abortion. we need to be nothing but discussion of these the party that is discussing why negotiations and what positions this matters to every single the u.s. is going to take, and even who's going to do the person. and we can already see the buyer's remorse going on. negotiating for the us. that's another mystery. so it's a people who in just one month are moment where we've all got lots realizing that inflation is of questions and not a lot of going up, not down under this answers. administration. and so really >> so, david, if the negotiations effectively are providing the path forward to fr phone calls between donald trump and vladimir putin, which is how it has now begun, donald trump even pointing out that vladimir putin used the term maga, and he was flattered by that. putin obviously knows all the buttons to push with donald trump, and it appears he is getting exactly what he wanted by supporting him

during the presidential campaign. but if it is donald trump and putin really running these negotiations, how concerned are nato members? how concerned are the people in that room behind you about what this deal will look like? >> well. >> that specific issue of trump and putin negotiating over the heads of the ukrainians and the europeans, don't forget, it's their security that's at stake here as well, led to some pretty strong comments over the last several days, including from britain, which said it still is open to the idea of ukraine joining nato and pushing back, insisting that europe has to have a place in these negotiations. it's not just a bilateral discussion between trump and putin. so as i say, this is going to this is going to shake out. i think we're in the in the moment. so often before negotiations, you have a period of jostling, positioning. we had what appears to have been an unusually heavy strike by

russia hitting near the chernobyl nuclear plant. that's been a red line so far in the three years of this war. so it's a very unsettled period as it as we move towards some kind of negotiation. my own guess will be this isn't just going to be putin and trump, that the ukrainians will make so much noise that they'll they'll have a seat at the table. >> so another piece from the wall street journal editorial board. this one is titled peace through weakness in ukraine. it reads in part. president trump has begun his promised effort to negotiate an end to the war in ukraine, and the initial signs are discouraging. he's making concessions to vladimir putin without anything in return, and he's informing ukraine after the fact. does mr. trump want to negotiate peace with honor that will last, or peace through weakness that will reward the kremlin? most concerning is that mr. trump seems to be excluding ukraine as a negotiating party,

much less partner. mr. trump is wrong if he thinks letting russia dominate ukraine will result in less u.s. involvement in europe, or enhanced deterrence in the pacific, the us will end up spending far more on defense and deploying more troops in europe to defend poland, the baltic states and nation states and nato commitments. if he abandons ukraine, he'll soon find that china is even more emboldened to take taiwan. mr. trump has to decide if he wants to. if he wants an honorable peace in ukraine or risk his own afghanistan or vietnam. jonathan lemire again, it doesn't sound like a negotiation that involves all parties at all. >> to this point. it does not. and the latest example of. >> the remarkable deference. >> that donald. >> trump shows, vladimir putin. we saw. >> it in helsinki. we saw it. >> repeatedly during. >> his first time in office and now inviting him to the united. >> states, potentially.

>> even the white house, and. >> at least. >> david ignatius, seemingly at. this moment, cutting him out. >> cutting zelenskyy out of these negotiations. >> we should note, just. >> apparently a few minutes ago at an interview there in munich, our senate. >> armed services chair, roger wicker. >> republican from. >> mississippi. >> said that. >> talking about defense. >> secretary pete hegseth, who. >> was the one who. >> first said. >> that ukraine returning. >> to its pre-war borders was. >> unrealistic, and. >> a line that trump then echoed. wicker said that that was a, quote, rookie mistake and said that he should not have said that because it's giving up leverage. >> in these negotiations. >> so my question to. >> you is. >> do we think we'll hear more. >> from republicans on that, that might. push this white house. >> to rethink. >> how they approach these negotiations? >> so, jonathan, there is republican pushback when you have the wall street journal warning about, you know, peace through weakness, you know, about about misconceived

negotiations, you know, that that trump has has trouble. it's going to this is going to be a very complicated negotiation. and i think although hex has got a lot of criticism for saying that ukraine may have to make territorial concessions, that's generally been understood really for a year now. this war is at a stalemate. ukraine has tried to push the russians back unsuccessfully. so i think that's less the issue than what kind of guarantees ukraine will have, that whatever the ceasefire line is that's agreed, the russians will be forced by by european troops, maybe supplemented by u.s. troops to stay behind that line. i think that's going to be the key issue in negotiations. >> coming up. today marks seven years since the parkland school shooting in florida. we'll talk to congressman jared moskowitz, who graduated from. >> that. >> school and is now pushing for reforms intended to keep kids safe. that conversation is

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changes to government funding, canceling contracts, making personnel decisions and more. at the same time, a federal judge has ruled that the trump administration's controversial plan to place thousands of usaid staffers on paid leave will remain on pause at least through friday. joining us now, nbc news national affairs analyst and a partner in chief, political columnist at puck, john heilemann and politics reporter for semafor, dave weigel, whose latest piece is entitled actually, the resistance is working. dave, i'll get to your piece in a moment. john heilemann, your assessment so far. this pushback from the courts and from attorneys general? yes, that is a line. at the same time, aren't some of these firings and buyouts and moves going forward while we wait for the courts to proceed? isn't the damage being done right now? >> well, those are number one, i think there. look, there's a lot

of some of these agencies where there's where there are court orders holding things in place. right. >> the. >> the at the moment those agencies are not functional. so you can there's yes. damage is being done. i think damage is. >> being done now. >> kind of independent of that also because the reality is that if you're if you are living in a federal agency right now and you have seen what's happened to people at usaid or at the consumer financial protection bureau or other places, you are now living in fear. and there are a lot of ways in which this kind of the behavior that musk and his team at doge have undertaken, there are a lot of ways in which to operate. some of them involve actually trying to cut things. some of them involve putting the fear of god into everybody about the possibility that they're going to be able to cut things right. and i think the fear is as much has as much of a pernicious effect as the actual question of maybe a little bit less than what you keep your job or not. but it's now pervasive throughout the government that people see elon musk running amuck in the way that he is. so i think there's damage being

done in either case. it is true, though, that the courts are holding a very important line here, especially in the context of a republican majority in congress that seems to have no interest in being and doing its part, asserting any constitutional prerogatives, and is basically turning over all of its authority to the executive. >> so, dave, your piece is titled, actually, the resistance is working and you point out the resistance looks a little different this time than it did eight years ago. say, it's not people marching in the streets, necessarily. you're talking about resistance in the courts. you're talking about resistance from state attorneys general. so how is it working? >> well, i think john set it up. well, they're not stopping everything, but they had a plan a, plan b if they lost the election to organize lawsuits very early, find plaintiffs very early, as soon as they weren't sure if it would be elon musk acting. but as soon as the trump administration acted to cut staff, to stop what organizations were doing, to shut down agencies, they were going to sue instantly. and they have. so you had democracy forward and skye perryman create this coalition of liberal legal

groups that are up to when i talk to them this week, up to 400 that are involved in this in some way. and they're they're moving very quickly against the trump administration. that's also moving quicker than it did eight years ago. they did not have the same level of legal talent they have now. they were much more stymied, for example, with the muslim ban. that was their first legal test eight years ago. they kept losing and having to rewrite it. this time they are acting differently. they and that that context is important. there is nothing that house democrats can do, senate democrats can do, or a lawyer can do. if somebody leaves this administration and they don't get their job back in six months, if they if they win the case, the nlrb is slightly frozen. there are a lot of tools that the trump administration is using to shrink the administrative state. i'm just saying the democrats knew that would happen, and they were not naive. in waiting for him to move. i contradicted a little bit the idea that democrats are stymied. they're blown away. they can't they can't respond to this stuff in real time. members of congress and leadership are

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chocolates, 10% are caramel. >> 10% are coconut, the other 80%. >> are tangerine. >> mint goo. you know, it's not quite orange, not quite mint. it's like next up, when it comes to making. >> a dinner. >> reservation. >> 40% made it a month before. >> 35% made it a week before 25%. just wing it and pretend. >> chili's was all part. >> of the plan. becomes too expensive. presents 70%. >> choose diamond earrings. >> 25% choose. >> a gold bracelet. >> 5% choose a half a dozen eggs. >> half. >> yeah, hard to get those eggs. welcome to the fourth hour of morning joe. it's 6 a.m. on the west coast. 9 a.m. in the east. happy valentine's day, everybody. along with jonathan lemire and me, we have the president of the national action network and host of msnbc's politics nation, reverend al sharpton. are you ready for valentine's day? >> i'm ready. >> are you sure? >> i'm positive. >> okay. don't let anybody down.

former senior spokesperson and adviser for the harris campaign, adrienne elrod, is with us. new york times investigative reporter michael schmidt is with us in person. good to see you again. and former state attorney for palm beach county, florida, dave aronberg joins us this morning. so we have new this morning. new york city mayor eric adams is now responding to danielle sassoon, the former acting former acting u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, who resigned yesterday after she refused to follow a justice department order to drop the corruption charges against him. here's what he told fox news moments ago. she quit. >> yesterday, the acting. >> u.s. attorney, and so did five members of the department. >> of justice. because they felt like being forced. >> by the department of justice. to drop the. >> corruption charges. >> was inappropriate. >> and they. >> should not have asked. >> and what she. said was, she said, you. >> offered to. >> help with the migration.

problem and the immigration. >> agenda in exchange. >> for the case being dropped. >> think about that. >> think about that. think about my attorney, alex spiro, wanted to. one of the top. trial attorneys in the country. imagine him going inside saying that. >> the only. >> way mayor adams is. >> going to. >> assist in immigration, which i was calling for, for since. >> 2022. >> is if you drop the charges, that's quid pro quo. that's a crime. >> that took her three.he took it took her three weeks. >> to report in front of her a criminal action. come on. this is silly. >> just pointing. >> out. >> he's sitting there appearing on fox news with the border czar, tom homan earlier this week, sassoon appealed to attorney general pam bondi and expressed her alarm at being ordered to drop the case, detailing an earlier meeting she had with adams lawyers and doj

officials where she says they discussed, quote, what amounted to a quid pro quo. in a statement to nbc news, mayor adams lawyer called that allegation a total lie. she also revealed in that letter that her office was prepared to bring additional charges against mayor adams, based on evidence that adams destroyed and instructed others to destroy evidence and provide false information to the fbi. mayor adams was indicted last year on several charges, including bribery. he has maintained that he did nothing wrong. this letter is scathing. jonathan lemire. >> yeah. >> it's an extraordinary moment for her to spell it out. >> and now for the. >> public all to read michael, the. >> latest piece that you. >> coauthored for the new york times is about. >> how the justice department. helped sink its own. case against. >> eric adams. you write in part this the. >> series of events. >> in which the acting.

>> number two official. at the justice department seemed. >> to guide. >> criminal defense. >> lawyers toward a rationale. >> for dropping. charges against. >> a high profile client. >> represents an. >> extraordinary shattering of norms. >> for an agency charged. >> with enforcing. >> the laws. >> of the united states. >> it also sends. >> a message. that under the trump administration. >> the justice. department will. make prosecutorial decisions based not on the merits. >> of a case, but. on purely political concerns. >> longtime prosecutors and defense lawyers said. so, michael, let's let's talk more about. >> your reporting. >> this is truly. >> extraordinary moment in terms. of her resignation. >> but. >> also the orders that caused it. >> yeah, i think that. >> we have. >> to appreciate and like, just take a moment to understand. >> how different. >> a. >> resolution this. >> is to a criminal investigation. >> there are. >> times where s.d.n.y. wants to bring a case, and they go back

and. >> forth with main justice. >> and there's a real push and. >> pull and. >> sometimes they lose. this is not that. >> at all. >> this is something that we have. never seen before. certainly i've never seen before. and it's very. >> hard to find a historical precedent. it is. resolving a criminal. >> investigation. >> a criminal prosecution. >> something that's about. >> to. >> go to trial as essentially part of an agreement. >> in which the. >> mayor is agreeing. >> to do what the president. wants him to do after. >> the mayor. has gone and met with the. >> president and. >> has had. his lawyers appeal directly. one of the things. we report in the. story is that the day or so after. >> trump took office. >> adams's lawyers sent a letter directly. >> to the white house. >> asking for a pardon, asking trump to intervene before it goes to trial to give him a

pardon. there was silence. >> from the white house. >> for days. >> then a week. >> later. >> the acting. >> deputy attorney. >> general called the lawyer. for adams. >> and said he wanted to. >> have. >> a meeting. >> to discuss the dismissal. of the case. >> that is. >> how this all. >> i don't know if this is how it all gets started. >> but this is. >> how it all gets started after trump. >> takes office. >> yeah, some of members of the trump administration have called judges that are pushing back on other moves. judicial activists in this case, i really don't think you can look at this former acting u.s. attorney as someone who approaches things from the left. if you look at her background. >> no, she's federalist society. >> someone who. >> clerked for. >> scalia. someone who. actually led. >> the prosecution of. of sbf, the in. the crypto stuff.

>> someone who. empowers to. embody this. ethos of. >> sdny where they see themselves. >> as having. >> a higher calling, having a higher level of independence. and if you. >> talk. to folks from. >> s.d.n.y, they. >> would probably say that if she was. >> what she, you know. >> had had. >> been. >> her. >> entire career. >> a true. >> s.d.n.y prosecutor. >> then the only choice she would have had would be. >> to resign. >> the thing. that i. can't help. >> stop thinking about. >> about her is that. >> she's eight and a half months pregnant. >> well. >> while this is all going on. >> so she. >> has a monumental decision. >> that's not just a. >> decision about. >> oh. >> what's going. >> to happen with this. >> major criminal prosecution. >> it's really a decision about the. >> direction that the. >> justice department takes. >> after basically post watergate norms had. had created

a certain type of justice department that was largely based on the laws and the facts. >> so that. >> is the. >> person who. >> made this decision, someone who was. >> eight and a half months pregnant. i don't have any more words to say anything about that. >> so it's incredible. reverend al, you you've known eric adams for a long time. what do you make of these recent developments? >> well, what's troubling to me is when i read the letter from the acting deputy attorney general, where they write explicitly that this is being done because they want the mayor to be available to help with immigration and violent crimes, which trump has said is stop and frisk, something we all led against. i've been a friend and supporter of eric adams. the question is, are you saying now in writing that you're holding him hostage on political and

policy reasons? and as you know, i've called to convene some of our black elected officials and clergy. the thing that we've got to wrestle with is that is the president or his surrogates in the justice department now going to say we will prosecute or not prosecute based on the policies and politics that you commit yourself to. that's a danger to all of us, and it holds the city hostage. i think. then when i see yesterday, a lady that clearly is to the right. she clerked for scalia. as michael said, she comes out of the federalist. she's not somebody that comes to my rallies in harlem for her to leave her job and then five others. i mean, this is beyond people just playing inside baseball. we've got to stop and look and say, wait a minute, she saying this was a political deal? well, don't miss the story here. the

political deal is some people in our community, haitians, people from south america. i just spoke with bishop matthew hyde the other night at saint john the divine about the humanity of migrants. so we're going to bargain our human rights and civil rights, defense of migrants so that we have a political deal. if donald trump or the justice department felt that eric was was mistreated in some ways and some of us did, why didn't you pardon him? you pardoned people that physically assaulted people. january 6th. why did you throw us into this quagmire and have people now saying to remove all of that when you could have pardoned him unless you wanted to put the city of new york as hostages? >> so, reverend. >> sharpton, let me. >> follow up on that. a number of democrats. have really denounced the events of. >> the last few days. >> richard torres said the mayor of new york city has been compromised, said the city of new york has been all but. >> reduced to a subsidiary. >> of the trump administration. so my question to you is, do

you. >> have faith right. >> now that eric adams is governing new york city with the city's best interests in mind? >> i mean, i think that i would make that judgment once all of us meet, but i think that what we really are looking for is will the judge allow this to have the charges dropped? this judge should sit down and say, i've heard in the public what the assistant us attorney resigned. i'd like to have a hearing with all of the parties and let them present. then if you in writing and michael, i'm sure, read the letter in writing had the question of immigration, the question of crime. those are not legal reasons to drop a case. explain to me, the judge should say, what are the legal reasons that this did not reach the bar? talking about that it was too close to the primary was nine months before the primary. people in congress run every two years. everybody's running nine months before. it's ridiculous. the judge in this case should say whether or not he's going to

allow them to drop the charge. >> so, dave, let's go to you. >> for legal analysis here. >> just on how unusual. first of all, the deal was, but also how you perceive what is a seemingly open rebellion there at s.d.n.y. >> the whole thing. >> stinks, jonathan. >> so let's go back to what eric adams. >> said on fox news. he said. >> i have a lawyer, alex spiro. >> who's. >> a really good lawyer. he would. >> never do something like this. well, alex biro. >> is a very good lawyer, but he's also known for being hyper aggressive. he was criticized by the. judge in. >> the jay. >> z matter. he represents. jay z for his. over aggression, attacking the other lawyer. >> he's also the same lawyer. >> for elon musk. >> so i'll leave that there. so as if to prove that. this was. >> part of a corrupt. >> deal. >> eric adams is. >> not only. >> appearing with the border. >> czar. >> but he's also assuring publicly the border czar that he will use his executive powers to allow federal immigration authorities to back into rikers island. that's like a 180 degree turn from the typical sanctuary

city policies that new york city had. >> so. you know, it sure looks like there's a. >> quo in exchange. >> for the quid here. >> and then. >> you have. >> deputy attorney general emil beauvais, who i think is doing. attorney general pam bondi a disservice by his actions. >> he wasn't. >> even approved by the senate yet. he was trump's former criminal defense lawyer, and he's not. >> even trying. >> to hide his motivations here. he made it clear in his letter that this dropping of the case was so adams. >> could better. >> help with. >> the. >> immigration crackdown. and then he dismisses the case without. >> prejudice. >> which means that it's going to be hanging over. >> adams throughout just to make sure. >> he plays ball. so you can see. why adams was so compliant. with trump's. >> border czar. >> yesterday when the sword of damocles is hanging over his head. but as the reverend said, he's right. it's up. >> to. the judge. >> and i think this judge is going. >> to reject. >> this deal. and i think in the end, it's going to be a standoff with the judge. so i'm not accepting this dropping. and then doj says, well, we're not

pushing it forward. so it's a very interesting time. >> yeah. michael where do you see this going. >> i don't know i don't know. >> the other thing. >> is, is that as i'm pretty sure. >> no one. >> has still gone. >> to court to. >> dismiss the charges. >> yet, right. >> that's correct. and the. problem with that is that at. least yesterday, they. >> couldn't find anyone to do that. >> because that's that. >> see, that's the issue here. >> someone has to walk into court and. >> actually do this. >> do the deed. >> and that is. >> the. >> the analogy. >> to the saturday. >> night massacre, which. >> is who. >> are they going to find. >> to do that? and is the acting. >> deputy attorney. >> general himself going to have to walk into court to do that? >> it's just. >> like we're. >> really like in. >> in. >> in, in. >> places that we. >> have really not seen in in recent decades. and then what is the judge do? but even if the judge. >> says, and you know, i'm not a legal. >> expert, but i'm not sure. >> the legal experts. >> have an answer to this, even if the judge says. >> no, i'm not allowing you to.

>> dismiss this, then. >> who is going to. >> be. >> there to commute that case? so you. >> just had all these people. >> resign who were. >> affiliated with. >> this case. you have a justice department. >> that doesn't want to prosecute it. and then the judge, if the judge. >> says, okay. >> i'm not going to. >> dismiss it. >> so what. >> is it? >> just sit there. >> we will find out. new york times investigative reporter michael schmidt, thank you very much for your reporting. we'll be following this. and former state attorney for palm beach county, florida, dave aronberg, thank you as well. meanwhile, despite some legal roadblocks, president donald trump is pressing forward this morning with his administration's efforts to overhaul the federal government. nbc news capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles has the latest. >> overnight. >> massive cuts. >> at. another critical. >> agency. >> the department. >> of veteran affairs, announcing the dismissal of more than 1000 employees, a move. it says will save the va.

>> $98 million annually. it comes as. >> the trump administration advised all federal agencies to fire. probationary employees. >> workers who have been on the job. >> for less. >> than a year. >> the new. >> battlefield for. >> president trump. >> and elon musk's effort to reshape the government. >> is fast. >> becoming a federal courtroom. >> i always abide by the courts, and then i'll have to appeal it. >> in the wake of the aggressive push by the duo to cull the federal workforce, cut funding. >> and. >> eliminate departments, a. >> flurry of lawsuits. >> have. >> been. >> filed nationwide. >> and one by. >> one judges are. >> putting temporary hold. >> on the administration plans. late thursday. >> a. >> federal judge ruled the trump administration could not suspend or cancel. foreign assistance that was in place. >> before he. >> took office. it comes on the same. >> day. >> another judge extended. >> the. >> restraining order preventing usaid employees from being put on leave. 14 states. >> also filed. >> suits challenging. >> the appointment and. >> authority of elon musk. >> calling it unconstitutional.

>> musk attacking the courts overnight. >> writing. >> if any. >> judge anywhere. >> can stop. >> every presidential action. >> everywhere, we. >> do not. >> live in a democracy. >> meanwhile. >> as musk has also threatened. >> to, quote, delete. >> entire agencies. >> trump's choice. >> to run the department of education. >> linda mcmahon. >> on capitol. >> hill did. >> not rule out. >> that agency. >> being completely eliminated. >> i will work with congress to reorient the department toward helping educators, not controlling them. >> with us now, the co-host of the weekend on msnbc, symone sanders townsend, along with adrienne elrod here on set. adrienne, i'll start with you. i mean, what are some of the effects happening, you know, with the so-called resistance in these legal challenges? is that the new frontier? >> it kind of. >> is, mika. you know, if. >> you look back at 2017. >> after trump won. >> the first. >> time.

>> there was a real organized effort among the grassroots. >> we had the women's march. >> people were marching. >> every weekend. people were really taking it to the streets. obviously, a little. >> bit. >> of a different scenario. >> this time around. people are. >> realizing that. >> you know, some. >> of. >> those tactics. >> didn't work or were not as effective. so people are really leaning on people in. >> the. >> party and. >> just people. >> who are opposing this sort of authoritarianism that we're seeing coming out of out of the trump administration. there is more of an effort to. make sure that we have. very tactical, strategic legal challenges. >> i'm actually working with an organization called democracy. >> forward, which is doing some of this, and they've had some successes. when it comes to some of the ways that the courts have put in place, including on usaid employees and on some of the doj's requirements to and the federal spending freeze. >> i mean, just. >> like. >> michael schmidt was saying earlier, if you don't actually. >> present a legal. >> challenge. >> nothing is going. >> to get done. so what organizations like. democracy forward in a sea of, you. >> know, the aclu, some of the immigration groups out there, they've been. >> planning for this. >> this is not something where they woke up on january. >> 20th. >> at 12. >> noon and thought. >> oh, man, we got.

>> to like, figure out what is our legal strategy. they've been. >> planning on. >> this scenario. >> for a. >> long time. >> making sure that they are. challenging these, you know, the egos that we knew that trump was going to file in a very strategic way. and that is really kind of. as you. >> pointed out, mika, the new frontier. >> so, symone, as these issues move their way through the courts, the damage is being done right now. your take. >> well, look. >> mika, first and foremost, we have heard from the president, his allies like elon musk, even all the way down to republican elected officials as well as republican commentators, is this use of framing what is happening with the courts, these legitimate lawsuits being brought as quote unquote, lawfare and lawfare is a term that was coined in 2001, and it basically says it's the use of courts and other legal systems to damage or delegitimize a political opponent. so what, donald trump and his allies want people to believe is that these lawsuits are being brought by democrats and democrat judges, even though republican judges

who have been appointed by republicans have ruled against the trump administration, not because there is any illegality associated with it, but because of some animus towards donald trump and his administration specifically. i think that that is a really important thing to understand here, because we saw with our own eyes as donald trump weaponized and delegitimized our election system, millions of people believed that the 2020 election, to this day, millions of people still believe the 2020 election was stolen. so if he can do that with our election process, why would we not believe he could do this with our judicial branch in the courts? and why do you want to delegitimize the courts and the lawsuits that are being brought? because it makes it so much easier and for you to ignore them and for the people to go along with your ignoring of the laws. the laws are the only thing that hold our society together and our agreement, if you will, to abide by them. and when that goes out of the window, so does the organization of our society. and so i do think it is very important here

for the democrats and the elected officials, the attorney generals, who are bringing these lawsuits to be very specific for the judges to be specific and not to back down, because this isn't lawfare, this is the law being applied fairly. >> so let's bring into. >> this conversation. >> now, democratic congressman jared. moskowitz of florida. congressman, good. >> to see you. >> this morning. we want to turn to today's somber anniversary in. >> a. >> few moments. but first, let's get you on. >> on this and your your. >> view as to how the courts right now are being. >> used and. ruling against what you're seeing from the white. >> house and in particular. >> elon musk, and talk. >> to us about what. >> next steps should be carried out. >> no, thanks. >> thanks for having me. it's the seventh anniversary of the shooting at my high school at marjory stoneman douglas on valentine's day. >> but obviously, you. >> know, with the chaos going on in, in washington. >> i. >> mean, look. >> i'm someone as so did bill clinton and so did. >> al. >> gore believe that there's

nothing wrong. with shrinking the size of government, and there's nothing wrong with shrinking government spending. that's a bipartisan issue. we should absolutely try to make our government more efficient. >> but you got. >> to do it legally, right? >> you can't just do it illegally. >> and that's. >> where the. >> courts are coming in. and so. >> look, the. >> process is working, right? people are going to court, they're filing motions, okay. >> and courts are. >> making rulings. and then, yes. >> there will be appeals. >> and eventually some. >> of this will get. >> up to the supreme court. and so that. >> is how our institutions work. >> if one of the. >> branches of. >> government does something. >> and they're not doing it in. >> accordance with the. >> constitution. >> in accordance. >> with the separation of powers, you go to the courts to solve that. dispute between the legislative and the executive. >> so, as discussed. >> today, indeed. marks seven years since a gunman opened fire at marjory. >> stoneman douglas high school in. >> parkland, florida, killing 17 students and staff. yesterday, officials. >> in indiana arrested a. >> teenager who had been accused of plotting. >> a mass shooting. >> at a school. on valentine's

day, a plan that he allegedly. wrote was inspired, yes, by. >> the shooting in parkland. >> congressman. >> you, as noted, attended the school there. you represented the area in the state. legislature and currently represent parkland. >> in the us congress. >> give us your reflections. >> on. >> today. >> that somber anniversary, but also your efforts to keep schools safe, which is. evidenced by. >> this headline out. >> of indiana, still very, very needed. >> yeah. >> no, i you know, i can't believe it's seven years. when i'm done here, i'm, i'm going to go to marjory stoneman douglas, my high school. where i graduated from, which seven years ago today looked like a war zone. i was here that night, right after the shooting, i flew home from tallahassee when my wife alerted me what was going on. my four year. >> old. >> at the time was in preschool, right around the corner from douglas in a closet because they were on lockdown, and the teacher. >> that was with. him in the. >> closet was jen guttenberg.

>> she was. >> protecting my son when her daughter was killed at my high school. and so many things failed that day. you know, obviously our gun laws failed that day. >> our school safety. >> procedures failed that day. >> law enforcement response. failed that day. >> and after that, we passed the marjory stoneman douglas school safety act in florida, which is still intact. we raised the age to buy guns to 21 three day waiting periods in florida. >> red flags. >> in florida. >> those red. >> flag laws. >> have been used 19,000. >> times since. >> we put them in place. >> in the last. seven years. >> 19,000 times. law enforcement has deemed someone a danger to. >> themselves or danger to others. >> and then we did. >> a ton. >> of school safety components. >> we hardened. >> our facilities, we did notification systems. >> we did threat assessments. >> and so obviously, look, i serve in a congress now that's completely controlled by republicans. they're not interested in doing anything on guns. so i'm focusing on school safety. and so i filed a number of bipartisan bills, taking what

worked in florida with threat assessment and with hardening our facilities and with school notification. all those bills have been filed, and i'm waiting for the speaker to bring those bills up to. >> keep our kids. >> safe in school. >> congressman jared moskowitz of florida, thank you so much for joining us this morning. we appreciate what you do. thank you. take care. coming up, updates on the other developments out of washington, including donald trump's new comments about tariffs and what the president said about the war in ukraine. plus, a look at the other stories making headlines this morning, including a new survey that is answering the age old question, when is the best time to nap? we'll tell you when it is. i didn't know you could nap. also ahead, he's had one of the most successful comic acting careers over the last half century, was the first to anchor weekend update on snl, and was the first to say those iconic

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russia would. >> have to give up. >> maybe russia will give up a lot. maybe they won't. >> but today, vice president j.d. vance, who's set to meet with world leaders in munich, expressed strong support for ukraine in a new interview with the wall street journal, saying that if russia doesn't negotiate in good faith, sending us troops to ukraine is on the table along with economic sanctions. it comes as the president is targeting some of america's top trading partners with. >> a. >> sweeping reciprocal tariff plan that would tax foreign goods. >> at the same level. >> other nations tax us products. >> they charge us a tax or tariff, and we charge them. >> now, dismissing worries about the impact of new tariffs. >> jobs are going to go up and prices could go up somewhat short term, but prices will also go down. >> so details of this plan still unclear. but adrienne. >> most economists think the tariffs actually will. prices are going to go up. >> because some are already are. >> some already are.

>> because it's going to be handed down from businesses to, to consumers. so it. seems that we know donald trump. he centered his campaign on lowering prices, said they'd start going down on day one. that hasn't happened. they've only gone up. >> looks like they're only. >> going to go up more if he follows through on these threats. how can democrats take political advantage? >> well, first of all, you're. >> right. to say. >> that donald trump, obviously it was a center point of his campaign. >> it was. >> it was one of the reasons why we lost this campaign because of prices, because of inflation. >> and now. >> he's going out. >> there and trying. >> to say, oh, we're going to have some short. >> term term. >> you know, price gains. >> to, you know, get longer term price, you. >> know. >> price prices to go down. >> we have to hold his. >> feet to the fire. >> we have to hold him accountable. and i frankly. >> i. >> i understand. >> that democrats are frustrated right now. >> that, you know, whatever we're calling. >> the resistance, the organized opposition is trying. >> to kind of figure out how to recalibrate. >> and what to do. >> but we have got to do. >> a better job right now holding. >> him accountable. >> and by the way, it's not this. >> is.

>> not just. >> a. >> democrat versus republican issue. this is a anybody who does not support donald trump is authoritarianism. he's already putting. injecting into our government, into our society somebody who, again, ran. >> on one. >> of the reasons why he won this election is because of prices. and that was the central theme of his campaign. >> we've got to do a. >> better job of holding him accountable and making it very. clear that the promises. >> made on. >> the campaign trail are not the promises that are being kept in the white house right now. >> so let's get. >> your thoughts. >> what do you think? how should democrats be taking advantage? >> well. >> look, i agree with adrian and the point that like democrats, they have got to fight fire with fire. you know, they they have to be willing to call the thing the thing and not be on this. >> we're willing. >> to work with anybody. yes, we are aware. we know y'all are willing to work with anybody. but the republicans do not seem willing to work with you. so why don't we just call a thing a thing? but i also think that to me, donald trump's focus that he's had in these first, you know, couple of weeks of his administration. >> it's very. >> clear. >> to me that the election wasn't about the price of eggs. it was not actually about for

people that voted for him because the inflation because of. so i think we'll be we will be seeing more of a backlash. and so i do think it also is a moment to be a little more introspective and think about the fact that americans seem to be completely fine with the weaponization of the full force of the government against even american citizens when it comes to immigration. right? rounding people up, americans seem to be just completely fine with unqualified people being appointed and into positions that are important for our health, for the safety of people all across this country, regardless of who they voted for in the last election. and that's something we have to reckon with. but i do think the democrats need to stiffen their backs a little bit, if you will. i will note that it seems to me that democrats outside of washington have found their footing more quickly than democrats inside of washington, because it's democratic governors and attorney generals that are being very clear about what the path forward is.

democratic members of congress, i know if you are a house member, you are running for reelection right now, but this will work with anybody. and we want to be bipartisan. yes, again, we are very well aware, but you have to be a little more stronger in not just your messaging, but also your actions. >> msnbc symone sanders townsend, thank you so much. we, of course, will be watching the weekend, saturday and sunday right here on msnbc. and by the way, before we go to break, we're less than three weeks away from the forbes and know your value 3050 summit in abu dhabi, the greatest global gathering of women in history. symone and adrian, i'll see you there. the event will take place march 5th through the eighth on and around international women's day. as it is every year, we'll be bringing together dynamic women from different generations and all walks of life from all around the world for four unforgettable days filled with connection, enlightenment, culture, inspiration. and we're going to

hear from powerful voices including actress freida pinto, entrepreneur and investor alexis ohanian, olympic swimmer and syrian refugee yusra mardini, and more. we have some really major announcements next week right here on morning joe, and you can get all the details at know your value.com and forbes.com. we would love to see you there. and also we've been talking all morning long about snl's big 50th anniversary this weekend. and rev, it dawned on us that you're the only one at this table who's actually hosted the show. what's that like? we can't even get tickets to sit in the audience and we work here. >> it's exciting. i, i hosted the show in 2003 when i was getting ready to run for president. and the scene you're looking at, that's tracy morgan there, and they were all kids that look at where they are now, babies. and they, they. kenan thompson and jimmy fallon was

there and all of them were kids. >> wow. >> and it was a thrilling experience. the big joke was when i got there, they said, the celebrity guest tonight is going to be paris hilton. and i said, who is paris hilton? >> thank you. >> thank you. that's actually that morning. >> because i really didn't know. yeah. and then they came back and said, you know what's funny? they said we said that we've got a heavyweight that's hosting tonight. we told paris hilton, reverend al sharpton, she said, who's reverend al sharpton? so we laughed about it down through the years. that's how they cross culture and politics. it's a phenomenal experience. >> it really is. up next, willie is sitting down with snl legend chevy chase. they're going to talk about the very first episode, his iconic landshark sketch, and much more. morning

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>> i don't own a car. >> come on. >> who is this? >> candy. graham. >> eye candy. graham. oh, boy. oh, no. >> live from. >> new york. >> it's saturday night. >> a look back at just some of the iconic moments from the legendary chevy chase on saturday night live, capped off there by the show's first ever live from new york. that was in 1975, and the award winning comedian and actor joins me now in studio. he, of course, was a member of the original cast of snl. the show's 50th anniversary special will air live this sunday on nbc and this saturday night in the show's traditional 11:30 p.m. time slot. nbc will re-air the very first episode ever. chevy. good morning. it's so great to have. >> you here, buddy. >> we are thrilled that you are here on this occasion. i'm

curious, you got in the elevator this morning at 30 rock. came up the same elevator, probably with the same carpeting. yeah, that was there in 1975. >> i noticed. >> the walls had. >> changed the walls a bit. yeah, but otherwise it's sort of the sort of the same. what? what does it feel like to think that it was 50 years ago that you birthed this incredible cultural phenomenon? >> it doesn't seem real in a way. but but at the same time as we're going up there, i'm. >> thinking. >> hey, i've been here many times. and it's. it's a great thing for lorne and the cast and all of that. it's wonderful. but it's a long time ago, and i miss it. i shouldn't have left, but there you are. >> well, that's interesting. you say you shouldn't have left, so you were there. people. you're so associated with the show because you were there right from the beginning. you invented weekend update, all of those things. you were a writer on the show and a performer, but you left after one year. looking

back on it now. yeah. why did you leave and why do you say now? you shouldn't have. >> well. >> for gosh sakes. >> you know, i left because. >> i was. stricken with a. >> girl from la that i met and in fact married. but for only a couple of years, she. >> was a. >> you know, i married to janie now and have been for 45 years. yeah. but so it was it was strange. >> because i. missed it right away. >> and i still miss it. i love that show. i love being with lorne and the. and the cast. >> it was. >> a quite a funny cast. dan aykroyd, john belushi, garrett morris, gilda, gilda, laraine and jane. you know. that was a great group of people. >> and so i you know. >> i miss them too.

>> we talk about it now in such grand terms because of the impact it's had. but when you guys were scrambling that first season and that first episode just to figure out how to get something on the air, i'm sure it didn't feel like a guarantee that this was going to go on to have a long run. so what were those early days like? >> oh. >> i have no memory of this. come to think of it, no, no, it was great. you know, there is that film that came out about saturday night live the first day and all that wasn't anything like that, really. in fact, lorne and i knew. >> exactly what. we were going to do. >> and particularly lorne and. was. we were prepared and ready. on the other hand, it was very exciting because, you know, i'm on. tv now kind of thing. and i'd been on tv, but, i mean, this is this. >> is. >> not the smothers brothers,

where i was in the background somewhere, paul lynde show or whatever that was. so it was wonderful. >> people don't realize, too, you were hired as a writer. and then weekend, the idea for weekend update comes along and the story goes that lorne just thought you were the funniest guy in the office. >> yeah. >> you made him laugh more than anybody else, so put him on the air. >> yeah, i. >> think so. because lorne, when he originally made the offer, he said, i don't want you acting. i just like you to be the head writer. >> let's take a look at another sketch. this is landshark. >> we gotta think of something. >> and think. >> of. >> something very fast. >> okay. >> i got it. i got an idea. >> okay, i'll be right back. this has got to stop. >> we've got to do something. >> i know, i know, that's it. i can get some people. we'll post. >> deputies at the entrances and exits of all the buildings. i'm glad you're back. i know just

how to handle this. >> what we're going to do is we're going to get some. >> people together. >> get a posse. >> get a posse? >> that's right. >> surround the area. >> surround the area. >> right. >> let's go, let's go. surround the area. >> walkie talkies. >> walkie talkies. >> good. >> walkie talkies. >> maybe carry some harpoons. >> carry some harpoons. that's a stupid idea. >> just a preposterous premise. i still. >> don't understand. jaws was a. huge film, and it just seemed to me it would be hilarious if this guy could get on land this shark and be a land shark. and i just loved doing that voice and the whole concept of it. and so lorne had that huge shark made for me to put my head in, and it was so much fun to, you know. that's how it began. everybody knew when. >> they heard. >> that. >> they know it was going to be

land shark, right? yeah. who is it? it's doctor carlson, you know, just whatever he could say, right? i just loved doing that guy. >> we saw belushi in that sketch. a dear friend of yours. yeah. true that you're the one that kind of pulled him along into the snl universe. >> well, i think michael o'donoghue and i both. michael o'donoghue was a, of course, the. best writer. i thought on snl. >> he was the original co-head. >> writer. and we were both from the national lampoon. right? so we knew each other and we had used on the radio hour on national. neither here nor there. but, you know, i thought that when i said to lorne, what about belushi? he said, no, no, it's too difficult. i knew exactly what he meant. and john was very difficult as as you could find out later. but, you know, we finally talked him into

it, and there, there he was. i wasn't deep, deeply in love with john, but we liked him and we thought he was funny. he was funny. >> well, how do you assess the longevity of snl? chevy 50 years of, you know, there's always, oh, it's not funny anymore. and then all of a sudden it comes back, yeah, all these peaks and valleys. how has it stayed not just around, but stayed relevant for a half century? >> geez, i don't know. i mean, that's a good question. i think that we made the. >> the template. >> as my wife. >> likes to say. >> the format work. and, you know, when you think about it, weekend update, we know that's going to be on at noon, at 12 midnight, noon. >> still there 50 years. >> and it's still there, the same thing. it's a great format,

easy for everybody. and also just a lot of fun. if you can get the funny people sometimes they weren't that funny, sometimes they were, you know, i think we were the funniest, frankly. but that's leave it to me to say that. yeah. >> do you have over these 50 years as you've watched the show, do you have other favorite cast members who you thought were hilarious and you would have loved to have worked with? >> i loved dana carvey. of course, a guy like me is going to go, they're they're not as funny as i am. you know, that feeling of dominance? i was the best. but in fact, they were all they're all good. it's very tough to. be funny on a show of that nature and live, you know. and so all the kids have done it since i was there. were good. >> let's take a look one more time. we have to. all right. you as gerald ford.

>> my fellow. >> americans. >> ladies and gentlemen, members of the press and my immediate family. first, may i thank you all for being here. and i am, and my immediate family first. may i thank you all for being here. and i am and my immediate family. thank you all for being here. and i am truly honored to be asked by you to open the saturday night show with. >> harvey cosell. >> i do have. i do. >> have two major announcements to make. >> oh. >> no problem. no problem, no

problem. >> okay. >> my first announcement is one i think you've all been waiting for. >> oh no problem. no. okay. >> what are you thinking as you watch that performance? >> i'm remembering it almost verbatim. i mean, poor gerald. and, you know, he. we went to the. i went to the white house. he invited me. he was such a sweet man. just not a particularly great president. but he was a sweet guy. and i was just doing a job on him every week. and that. which is why he invited me. i have a feeling he. >> slips down one flight of stairs and you create a whole character around him. yeah. >> i know, i know. >> final thoughts chevy on 50 years of snl, you are among the small, elite group of people who dreamed up and started this whole thing. what do you feel in through this weekend? >> you know, i love lorne. we're just very close friends. and

it's just wonderful memories. by the way, he hasn't changed at all. he's been the same guy all the way through. he's he's really a comedy genius in many ways. the way he's, over the years, been able to keep this thing going. and so it's my friendship with him that makes it important for me. i can't wait to pat him on the back again and say, jeez, man, i don't know how you kept this going. >> that's well said. well, it's going to be a fun weekend and you are a huge part of it. the 50th anniversary special of saturday night live airs this sunday at 8 p.m. eastern on nbc, and you can watch the first episode of snl, which includes chevy, this saturday at 11:30 p.m. eastern. emmy award winning comedian, the legend chevy chase chevy. great to see you. thanks for being here. >> thanks.

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pontiff has suffered from influenza and related health issues repeatedly over the past two years. francis suffers from diverticulitis, a common condition that can cause inflammation or the infection of the colon. following his hospitalization, the pope's events over the weekend have now been canceled. >> now to an alarming trend. emerging that shows cancer rates increasing among young people. according to a recent study from 1990 to 2019. early onset cancer diagnosis, which refers to patients younger than 50, rose by 79% in the u.s, researchers found that breast cancer is the most commonly diagnosed early onset cancer, but there also have been recent increases in cancers affecting digestive organs. let's bring in health correspondent at time, jamie ducharme. she's the author of the magazine's latest cover story, which addresses the recent increase in early onset cancers. jamie, good morning. it's great to have you here. we were just talking. this is

something we pick up anecdotally when you talk to your friends and family, feels like it feels like something's happening. but now there's data to show that this really is happening. so what's behind it? >> that is the million dollar question. nobody knows for sure. there are many, many hypotheses within the scientific community. diet seems to be a big one. whether it's processed foods or alcohol, red meat, the specifics remain to be seen, but a lot of scientists are looking into diet. but, you know, it could be environmental exposures, microplastics, contaminants, even potentially things that we are not aware of yet because it takes many years for a toxic exposure to result in a health problem. so it can, you know, it can take a very long time to figure out exactly what's going on. >> so let's just frame this a little bit. how far back are we looking? in other words, when did this really start to tick up among people under 50? >> it looks from the science like the increase has been gradually ticking upwards, potentially even for decades. but i would say within the last few years there have been, you know, a growing number of

studies that really put this in the spotlight. >> so are there. >> particular types. >> of cancers that are on the rise and. >> particular demographics. >> that seem most vulnerable? >> yeah. great question. cancers of the digestive organs. so colon rectum stomach pancreas are surging the most dramatically. so they're not necessarily the most common. but the increases are the most pronounced among those cancers. one really startling and interesting trend is that women under 50 who have never smoked are being diagnosed with lung cancer. in really strange and startling numbers, and that seems to be especially pronounced among asian women. so that's another open question about why that's happening. >> are the numbers in terms of what does surging mean? and then are there any other factors that are like different areas of the country or anything else playing into this that we can see so far? >> so in terms of your first question, it is important to remember that by and large, it's cancer is still a disease of old

age. 88% of people diagnosed with cancer in the us are at least 50. so it is still, you know, a minority of people who are under 50 and getting cancer. but any increase within that age group is of course concerning. and that kind of warrants the increased attention that this issue has gotten. as for your second question, i don't know that the science is quite there yet to say that there are specific areas or environmental risk factors that are driving it, but certainly something that's under investigation. >> and, you know, go ahead. >> i was just going to say, when we talk about diet, you talk about processed foods, alcohol, red meat, i think people would hear that and say, well, we've been eating all three of those categories for generations. so what is different now about our diet than would have been 40, 50 years ago? >> still an open question. i think potentially it's just time delay. i mean, it can take years or even decades of following a risky behavior for that to actually result in a health problem. i mean, you look at people who smoke for decades and only develop lung cancer late in their life, so it could

potentially just be a lag. it could potentially be some change in the formulation of foods or additives. but again, it's unsatisfying to say, but nobody knows exactly for sure. >> so on the treatment side of this, how are hospitals? how are how is the medical community grappling with this? >> right? >> i think that is one of the bright spots here. there are a number of researchers who are looking into treatment methods that are better suited to young patients because chemo, radiation, surgery, they can work, but they're devastating physically. they can leave you with infertility, permanent lifelong side effects. so memorial sloan kettering, memorial sloan kettering cancer center here in new york city is doing some really interesting research on a surgery free immunotherapy technique that in some small studies, shows just about 100% efficacy and eliminates those side effects because people don't need to go through surgery or chemo, they're just getting a drug. >> and are there. >> any basic.

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mask on first. >> you just have to. >> get laid. >> charles is right. >> oh my god. >> it's been four. >> years now. >> you were. effectively a nun. >> a very, very naughty nun. >> i set. >> you up on tinder. >> what's tinder? >> that is. >> a look at the new. movie bridget. >> jones mad about the boy. the film follows renée zellweger's character as she returns to that beloved bridget jones, while she navigates life now as a widow and a single mother, jones embarks on a journey of self-discovery through work and dating. the continuation of the film series that has been such a smashing success. and joining us now award. academy award nominated actor chiwetel ejiofor, who plays mr. wallaker, one of jones's love interests in the film. >> it's so good. >> thank you. >> it is. so. this is the fourth installment of this, and generally they take good long breaks between them. so the appetite is wet for bridget jones fans. yeah, yeah. and i had a chance to see it. it is so

good and so funny and up to the standard of all the others. so if you can a little bit explain your character's role in this new one. >> yeah. >> i play mr. walker, who is the teacher at at bridget's children's school and quite specifically the science teacher for bridget's son, billy. and that's really how they how they meet. when we meet mr. walker, he's pretty uptight kind of character. you know, he's pretty. buttoned up, but over the course of it and in, you know, meeting bridget and the kind of chaos that's around her, he sort of starts to soften and we see a slightly different side to him, which is fun. >> this cast. >> i mean. >> how much fun you have, renee zellweger, hugh grant, you, leo woodall, colin firth. >> emma thompson. >> yeah. stop! >> amazing. amazing. >> yeah. it is. >> it must have made coming to work so fun. i mean, to be able to work with such professionals who are so talented. >> yeah. >> and, you know, i was a little intimidated, i think, by, you know, it's such a beloved

series. it's such a beloved franchise. and you. >> can feel. >> a. little intimidated at the top coming into something like that. but it was a remarkable group of people to work with and led by renee zellweger, you know, who is so warm and so kind of inviting into the environment of bridget jones that it was it was and a great part to play as well, by the way. so it made it really fun. >> yeah. >> so talk. >> a little bit more. >> about that. this is. >> such a. >> it's a franchise that's. >> been around for a long time. >> it has made a lot of money. >> it has so many fans. were the expectations of. >> delivering another one that. >> holds up as really said to the standard of the original. what was that like? >> yeah. >> i think that that was what was. well, you know, i think it's really about it just comes down to a script in the end. you know, it's such a great and beloved idea and renee is so brilliant in it. and when i read the script, i was like, this is this is great. this script, you know, it's really funny. it's really emotional. you know, it takes you on a real journey. it feels like it's threading that needle in a brilliant way

because, you know, you have to have something that really speaks to people who love, who love the franchise, but also evolves it. you know, it's years later. a lot of things have happened. bridget has a lot of new challenges in her life. and, and so and these characters are really rich. so it was it was all of that. it was it was great. >> so let's see more. should we your. character has sort of an interesting interaction with bridget jones after she gets stuck in a peculiar spot. let's take a look. >> everything all right. >> mrs. darcy? >> yeah. yep. super. >> just climbing. >> a tree. >> i can see that. >> having fun? >> yes. >> yes. >> it was really fun. >> you sure. >> you don't need a hand? >> no, no. >> as einstein. >> said, what. >> goes up. >> must come down. >> newton? >> yes, newton. >> we're going to die. >> no. >> we're not. >> going to die. >> we're having fun. we are definitely going to die.

>> clearly, you've got this nicely in hand. >> look, there's a policeman. >> oh my god, i've climbed a magical man tree. >> oh. >> does she ever. how does she get down? >> well, you know the. >> film i was just telling you. i interviewed renee yesterday, and she was singing your praises on camera and off. she loved working with you so much. what was the experience like for you? she's been in it since for 25 years now. this is sort of her her film series. what was it like to work with her? >> yeah. >> i mean, i loved the film when it came out, you know, it's almost. yeah, 25 years. quarter of a century ago when it came out, the first one. and i just remember it being sort of remarkable what she did in it. you know, i think i had seen her before at that point in jerry maguire, and i thought she was obviously a great actress, you know, but then seeing her as a, as a british character, you know, and just the transformation, it felt like it sort of felt miraculous to me,

you know, like everybody else. and so i was a huge fan of hers, a huge fan of the franchise, you know, just of the films. and so i was really excited about the sort of opportunity to jump into something like this. and then and then working with her was really was really special. you know, she's very, very kind. she's incredibly sort of optimistic. she feels a lot like bridget jones in that way. so you find yourself and she never breaks character as well. in a way. she's always in the british accent. and so it was only doing the press tour that i ever heard her speak as a, as a, as a texan, you know? >> right, right. >> that's cool. i was like, oh, okay. that's that's, you know, that's you. >> she did say, i think it's been nine years since the last one. she had to brush up on that british accent a bit to get it back. bridget jones mad about the boy is streaming now exclusively on peacock. you got to check it out today. it's on peacock. chiwetel ejiofor, pleasure to have you here today. thank you. congrats on the.

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