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>> if he doesn't. >> come through, i'll. >> be. >> back in new york city and we. >> won't be sitting on a couch. i'll be in his office up, up his butt saying, where the hell is the agreement we. >> came to? >> that was one of the tense moments, as we've reported, would seem to corroborate, agree with, rather than deny one of the key allegations here that this was not a legal or factual finding, but rather a plot to engineer some greater cooperation from adams. one of the prosecutors, who resigned in protest said no one should have signed off on this, but i suppose eventually they'll find someone who is enough of a quote fool, or enough of a coward to file your motion. it was never going to be me. that was just one of the protests in reference to the motion, which, late in the 6 p.m. hour east coast friday night, has now been filed. that does it for us. the reidout with joy reid starts now. hi, joy. >> how are you. >> doing, ari? >> and yes, here. >> it is. we are twinning. it is quite a day. >> been quite. >> a day in legal terms and
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every other. >> way. >> it is. >> as always. >> thank you. stay on it. >> have a good weekend as well. >> thank you. have a great one. >> all right. >> thank you all for. >> joining us as well tonight. >> we have. >> a lot to get to. >> as you. >> can imagine, in the next hour. >> of. the reidout. >> including the start of. >> mass firings. >> of federal. >> employees. >> possibly hundreds of thousands of people put out. >> of work by donald trump. >> and elon musk. plus, america's shame. >> on the. >> world stage as jd vance and pete hegseth blunder their way through the munich security conference. but we begin tonight. >> with. >> donald trump's take on law and order, as we now live in a country where the rule of law comes second to whatever trump wants. we saw that on day one, when trump gave full pardons to the 1500 january 6th insurrectionists, including the hundreds who violently attacked law enforcement officers considering the maga mob were called to the capitol by donald trump, the rule. >> of law did not apply. >> to them. and it continues to this day with the pressure
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campaign by top officials in trump's justice department, some of whom happen to also be his former criminal lawyers, to have the corruption charges against new york mayor eric adams dropped, in part because they were interfering with adams ability to focus on the administration's immigration priorities. today, seven. >> top federal. >> prosecutors and officials, including the acting u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, danielle sassoon, have resigned in protest. the seventh resignation coming this morning from hagan scotten, an assistant u.s. attorney at the s.d.n.y. who didn't hold back in his letter to trump's acting deputy attorney general, emil beauvais, writing, no system of ordered liberty can allow the government to use the carrot of dismissing charges or the stick of threatening to bring them again to induce an elected official to support its policy objectives. he also wrote. but any assistant
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u.s. attorney would know that our laws and traditions do not allow using the prosecutorial power to influence other citizens, much less elected officials, in this way, if no lawyer within earshot of the president is willing to give him that advice, then i expect you will eventually find someone who is enough of a fool or enough of a coward to file your motion, but it was never going to be. me and the doj finally found someone to formally file the motion to dismiss the case. ed sullivan, a trial attorney with the public integrity unit who is nearing retirement. he officially did that in just the last hour. it still requires a federal court judge to approve the decision before the charges can be dropped, but it came only after beauvais gave the remaining lawyers in the doj's public integrity section a. >> one hour deadline. >> earlier today for someone to agree to file it, or, as reuters
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reports, risk seeing all of the prosecutors in that section get fired. in addition to two former doj officials. on top of that mob like threat, beauvais ordered that what amounts to a quid pro quo, expressly promising a leadership position to whoever agreed to sign and file the order. and i say second, because accusations of quid pro quo are nothing new in this situation, with daniel sassoon making that claim in her resignation letter saying that she witnessed adams attorney indicate that adams would only be able to help push trump's immigration enforcement policies if the charges against him were dropped this morning. adams responded, of course, on fox. >> think about that. think about that. think about my attorney, alex speier, one of the one of the top trial attorneys in the country. imagine him going inside saying that the only way
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mayor adams is going to assist in immigration, which i was calling for since 2022, is if you drop the charges, that's quid pro quo. that's a crime that it took her three she took it took her three weeks to report in front of her a criminal action. come on. this is silly. >> well, first i should note that adams attorney, alex spiro, who you just heard him mention, also represents none other than trump's co-president, elon musk. interesting, right? and second, it is hard not to find it ridiculous when adams is seen sitting next to trump's border czar, tom homan, right there on fox, who just minutes later all but confirmed the quid pro quo with a threat to adams on live tv. >> if he doesn't come through. >> i'll be. >> back in new york city and we won't. >> be sitting on a couch. i'll be in his office up, up his. >> butt saying. >> where the hell is the
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agreement. >> we came to? >> him up his butt? nice. as i said at the top, welcome to trump's twisted version of law and order. joining me now is harry litman, former u.s. attorney and former deputy assistant attorney general, and christina greer, political scientist, co-host of the fake new york city podcast and author of how to build a democracy. harry, i do want to start with you because you have been posting some knowledge of how this has all gone down. can you give us sort of the back, back and forth as to how we got to here, where this motion has now been filed, ordering the dismissal of these charges? >> sure. >> i mean, as you say, joy, there was a cascading series of resignations, and that is just the ultimate the only thing that an honorable. career prosecutor or any prosecutor can do when confronted with an illegal. >> order. >> they do it again and again and again. recall in the saturday night massacre. >> it only went. >> to three people. here it goes
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all the way down and threatens to keep going forever. they put everybody in a room as if they're third graders, and someone has stolen a pack of life savers. they say if you don't play ball as we say, we're going to fire everybody. almost unimaginably brutal and unprofessional treatment. one person who is about to retire steps up after they all consider. >> should we. >> resign en masse? and does the dirty deed? of course, he's got a hard road to hoe in front of him, because this guy has to go in front of the court. that has to decide, is this in the interest of justice? and may well want to take evidence about it, but it was done in the most sort of brutal and unprofessional fashion, clearly in d.o.j. history. and this was i just want to emphasize to everyone, anyone of any stripe who has ever been in the doj, conservative, liberal, etcetera, would tell you this. these are the people in public integrity. it's the crown jewel of the
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department. it's the sort of navy seals. somebody is clearly telling the truth. somebody is clearly not. and i think the written record and just who they are makes it really clear what happened here. just one quick point. the most startling of all of this back and forth is that the acting deputy attorney general said, dismiss the case. oh, but not because of the law or facts, which is the lifeblood of the doj. and that's what really sets up what was so corrupt and the aftermath, therefore so brutal about what they did. >> i mean, you were kind to describe it as almost kids in a room. it sounds like a hostage situation where you do it or everybody gets thrown out of here. and then also if you do it, maybe we'll give you a little something. it was very mafia feeling. i want to be because you mentioned the reason for the dismissal. here's part five of this dismissal. it says in connection with that determination directive, the acting deputy attorney general concluded that dismissal is necessary because of appearances of impropriety and risks of
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interference with the 2025 elections in new york city. you skip down to six, and they say that these proceedings would interfere with the defendant's ability to govern in new york city, which poses unacceptable threats to public safety, national security and related federal immigration initiatives and policies. to your point, harry, none of this is about the actual facts in the case. they're saying we need him to do policy for the for the president. >> and especially number six, you saw the letter and you read from it by by the way, a john roberts clerk who has two bronze medals for valorous service in iraq says you cannot do this. i think beauvais is trying to leave a little room to, in this appearance of impropriety, to suggest, as the attorney general, pam bondi has, oh, this is just a politicized prosecution. that's simply false. it's a lie. and that's however, what if they could have played that card? it would have been one thing, but they didn't.
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they've conceded from the start. this is not the facts, not the law. that's what it would mean if it were all politicized. so they got a very bad hand and really rough people on the other side with impeccable credentials. >> yeah, indeed. christina, how how does this play out for the mayor? he looked incredibly weak sitting there on a leash next to his handler, who apparently is now tom homan, who made this really vulgar reference that essentially he's going to be inside of his in his posterior if he obey. that doesn't sound like the strong mayor of new york city. it sounds like somebody who essentially is a hostage of the president of the united states. right. and we're seeing that the president of the united states is the hostage of elon musk. i do want to just point out for your new yorkers who are watching the show, tonight is the last night that you can register to vote in the june 24th primary. so if you are
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a registered democrat, you must register by february 14th. so there are going to be a lot of people who actually may or may not be paying attention to this, this scenario right now. but possibly as we get closer to june, recognize they absolutely, you know, want to participate. if they don't register by this evening, they won't be able to. and so that's a larger question we'll have in our democracy what we've seen, though joy in the past year plus, is that mayor adams has been weak because he has been distracted because there are several people in his administration have had to resign for various improprieties and possibly illegal doings. and so the past few months, he's actually had some some new lifeblood in his administration that actually were righting the ship. this adds another layer in the sense that we knew that when the trump administration came in, he would be one of the more susceptible mayors to kowtow to this particular administration. we don't see that in, say, chicago, for example, or even
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philadelphia. but this mayor, anyone who's looking down particular possible prison time is always going to be susceptible to cut a deal in some way, whether it's quid pro quo or listen to someone like donald trump, which we know. we've talked about this joy together for years on the show, someone who does not respect law, someone who does not respect tradition, someone who does not respect the separation of powers and checks and balances in donald trump. and so here we are in the worst case scenario, which, you know, 92% of black women warned the country about consistently that this would be, you know, the first time donald trump was casing the joint, the second time, it's going to be a real dismantling of democracy, which we're seeing in real time. let me play, because one of the consequences could be there are people calling for the mayor to resign. this is what governor hochul had to say about whether she would move to try to remove him, which there is there are some provisions in new york law where she could try. here's governor hochul. >> this is not. >> supposed to happen in our system of justice. the biden
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administration in that department of justice is already showing they're corrupt. now, set that aside. i did see the letter that was issued by the acting united states attorney. the allegations are extremely concerning and serious. >> yes. >> but i cannot, as the governor of this state, have a knee jerk, politically motivated reaction. >> like a. >> lot of other people are saying right. >> now, i have to do it smart. what's right. and i'm consulting with other leaders in government at this time. >> but you are consulting with other leaders, consulting with your advisers, and looking anew at this matter, given the. >> recent, of course i am. >> briefly. we've got like two minutes. so i'm going to give the first minute to you, christina, likelihood that this might happen, that that he will serve out his full term. and what are the political implications for him that the governor is considering removing him? the governor is considering removing him. but don't forget joy. the governor is also up for reelection herself next year. and we saw that new york is definitely moving to becoming a much more purple state. most states did show, you know, just week, week and cracks in the
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foundation when it comes to big d democratic politics. so she's weighing all her options because she's not just running for governor of new york city. she's looking at sort of centrist and republican leaning voters as well next year. and she also will most likely have a pretty complicated primary to get through first. and i wonder for you, harry, if the judge considering this is judge dale ho, he's a former aclu lawyer who we actually have. i have him on my weekend show a fair bit, a brilliant guy. will he consider the likelihood that that, you know, holding held over eric adams head is removal? is that a factor in him deciding whether or not to, you know, accept this dismissal? >> it'd be really extreme for him not to accept the dismissal joy, but he will go into the facts. what the heck happened here? to my mind, this is maybe i'm a d.o.j. choir boy type, but it's almost a side show. once you have the deputy attorney general saying dismiss this case
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even though the facts and law are solid, you're just and demanding that somebody violate their oaths. that's an absolute black eye for the department of justice today. whatever they you say about adams, though, that looks credible to me as well. >> yeah, there are consequences. when you put a convicted felon in the white house and then, you know, don't be surprised if they act outside of the rule of law and don't really respect the law very much. harry litman, christina greer, thank you both very much. coming up, the mass firings begin with trump's office of personnel management telling agencies to fire all all probationary employees, which could be hundreds of thousands of people. the stunning impact that that will have, and the latest legal action against d.o.j. is next. >> my eyes, they're dry, uncomfortable. looking for. extra hydration. now there's blink neutral tears. it works
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little bundle of weird. by ali. >> donald trump and his unelected co-president elon musk have been promising to gut the federal workforce. so now the mass firings have begun. the administration told agencies to fire most probationary employees, a move that could affect more than 200,000 federal workers. the exact extent of the firings isn't clear, but so far we know that amid a nationwide surge in flu cases and a measles outbreak in texas, the centers for disease control and prevention will cut one tenth of its workforce. 1300 workers are being forced out at that critical agency, and as many as
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2000 employees at the department of energy were let go, including hundreds from its national nuclear security administration. take that in. according to the new york times, the internal revenue service is preparing to lay off thousands of employees as soon as next week, reversing the biden administration's efforts to beef up that agency. what could go wrong with dramatically cutting the irs workforce in the middle of tax season? just remember, the trump administration put tax cheats ahead of your needs. if you have problems with your refund, firings are already underway. also at the department of education, housing and urban development, the department of housing and urban development, and even at the agency ordering them, the office of personnel management. it comes as elon musk's staff at the made up department of government efficiency reached further and further into federal agencies, including nasa, where doge is expected to review spending, which definitely seems like a conflict of interest since elon
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musk's spacex is one of the agency's biggest contractors. but the legal pushback to the authority that the administration has given to the unelected tech billionaire and his junior staffers has also increased. in new york today, a federal judge extended the block, restricting doge access to the treasury department's most sensitive payment and data systems, and democratic attorneys general in 14 states filed a lawsuit arguing that elon musk's authority to do anything with doge is unconstitutional. judge tanya chutkan, who oversaw donald trump's january 6th case, heard arguments on that late today in washington. she did not immediately issue a ruling. joining me now is rob schreiber, who served as acting director of the office of personnel management during the final year of the biden administration. mr. schreiber, thank you for being here. i guess my basic question, the basic question that i think a lot of federal employees might be asking themselves is what rights do employees have? i
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always thought of these kinds of, we call them government jobs, these federal civil service jobs, as having certain civil service protections from things like abrupt firing. is that true? >> yeah they do, joy. >> and thanks. >> for. >> having me. and i'm happy to say. that democracy forward, the. >> organization i. >> work for. has been. >> at the. forefront of. >> protecting those. employee rights. >> so you hear a lot about. >> these probationary. >> employees today. >> these are folks. who are in their first. >> or. >> second year on the job. >> and they can't just be summarily terminated like. >> this on a mass scale. >> there are rules that govern. >> federal employees and their and their. >> rights in. >> the workplace. and you're not supposed to remove them. unless they're poor performers or they engage in misconduct. so we filed. another action. >> just today. >> joy. >> through one of the administrative bodies that enforces. >> these. >> rules, the office of special counsel. >> if you are a federal worker and you get one of these sort of pink slips or notice that you've
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been fired, what what should they do? >> so first of all, if you're a member of a union, you should check with your union representative because they. have rights under the union contracts. that can be enforced. secondly, there are resources available, such. >> as. >> our civil service strong. org website that walks people through the process for filing. an appeal of those actions. there are a lot of lawyers out there that are looking to help civil servants. there are a lot of pro bono lawyers and organizations. and you've got a lot of rights. and so find out what those rights are. make sure you get legal counsel or a union rep and file those appeals on time. >> let me ask you about this deferred resignation program, what people were originally called a buyout. it's not really a buyout. does that strike you as somebody who worked at the office of personnel management as something that is enforceable legal? because the understanding that i think a lot of us had is that congress would have to authorize the funding to pay people a certain amount of money
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beyond 25,000 or so. is that true? >> yes. so i think there continue. >> to be serious. >> questions about how that program. >> is going. >> to be funded. for one thing, we're under a continuing resolution until march. >> 14th. >> so there's no budget beyond that to pay for these so-called deferred resignations. >> secondly. >> there are programs that were enacted by congress and implemented by opm to accomplish these kinds of goals, like official programs where employees have transparency into what their rights are under them and the agreements are funded and enforceable. and so my question from the beginning has been, why didn't the administration follow that approach? and i think, joy, it's the answer is that they asked employees to sign up for this, to sign these broad waivers that basically preclude them from bringing any kind of action arising out of their employment, including, i suspect, enforcing this very agreement that they signed on to.
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>> yeah. so they can't sue. let me ask you this, because just as somebody who worked in office of personnel management, i can only imagine the disruption that immediately firing 200,000 some odd federal employees across the country, particularly by 20 somethings who don't necessarily know what each of these agencies does, they don't necessarily know what someone's specific job is at the nuclear agency or at the department of energy or at cdc, and just firing them all to get the numbers down. what kind of disruption could that cause throughout government, throughout the country? >> you know, joy, they have no strategy or no plan for how to continue to deliver government services to the american people without the workers who do so every day. and i think it's motivated by some perception that federal workers are part of the deep state and just out to thwart the trump administration. but the people that they fired today. so the call center worker in east butler, pennsylvania, i don't think that person gets up
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every morning thinking, how can i thwart the trump administration today? or the person who works for the agriculture department in iowa that helps farmers get the financial assistance they need? i don't think that person wakes up every day saying, how can i thwart the trump administration? the only thing, joy is that the federal government got a lot older today and a lot less diverse, because the people that they let go are folks that have been on the job for 1 or 2 years. they're the early career talent or the interns who converted into permanent positions, people fresh out of school and, you know, the younger generation is more diverse. and so we've gotten older and less diverse today. >> that might be the plan. and yet when people try to call up a call center and they need government services and there's no one on the other end of that line, you can thank donald trump and elon musk and his junior staffers. rob schreiber, thank you very much. please come back. we have lots more to ask. have so many more questions. thank you. and coming up, pete hegseth and jd vance. disastrous debut on the world stage for both of
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ukraine. the so-called us leadership is having a disastrous moment on the global stage. symbolic much. defense secretary and former fox weekend host pete hegseth and vice president jd vance are in europe this week amid rising tensions with our allies. nato is currently in disarray after hegseth announced that our security priorities lie elsewhere and has already been forced to walk back, comments he made just a day before that, indicating that ukraine should abandon all hope of regaining all of its territory back from russia. senator roger wicker, republican of mississippi and the chairman of the panel that oversees the pentagon, criticized hegseth for his remarks, calling it a rookie mistake, and told politico, quote, i don't know who wrote the speech. it is the kind of thing tucker carlson could have written. and carlson is a fool. the youth have spoken two dozens of middle school students on a u.s. military base in germany walked out of class in protest
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of dismantling of d-i policies. jd vance is also stumbling out of the gate by berating our allies in a bizarre speech to european leaders that attempted to export his maga message and make europe great again. >> the threat that i worry the most about vis a vis europe is not russia, it's not china, it's not any other external actor. and what i worry about is the threat from within. if you're running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing america can do for you. nor for that matter. is there anything that you can do for the american people who elected me and elected president trump? >> vance's remarks at the munich security conference were met with shock and later condemnation by the eu and germany, while drawing praise from. i think you can guess who. russian state television. joining me now is ed luce, u.s. chief columnist for the financial times. ed, it's good to see you. just a few more
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highlights from just j.d. vance's time abroad. he has railed against excessive ai regulation, essentially said that people need to stop worrying so much about disinformation, told europeans to stop shunning parties that are deemed extreme, like the far right party in germany that's got nazi roots. he met with german far right leader alice weidel at the munich conference. and this is the person from afd, the group that elon musk has also promoted. viktor orban could not have done better. what is how is this going down with among our allies? >> very badly. >> and i expect that's intentional. the speech that he gave. >> was met with stony silence. my colleagues were. >> there, and. >> they echoed other. >> people's reports from it. they were expecting this is. >> an annual security conference. >> where the ukraine. russia issue is on everybody's minds. and they were expecting the vice president to talk about that. he
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mentioned. ukraine a couple. >> of times in passing. >> the purpose of his. >> speech. >> as you've already. >> outlined. >> was to say that the real threat to europe came from. within and came from his audience there in munich. it came from liberal democratic, liberal democracies, including germany, which faces a general election ten days from now. where vance is and elon musk, of course, are openly backing the far right, the nazi adjacent party. so this is just not in anybody's playbook for an american vice president to come over and do this. and moreover, to cite examples from different democracies. >> germany, sweden. >> and uk, three examples he used of where he alleged europe was suppressing free speech and depriving people of their liberty. now these are countries with one fifth or less the incarceration rate of america.
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so it's a very odd thing. at a security conference for an american vice president to be lecturing people on taking away their own citizens liberty. it's just surreal. beyond. beyond any anything that people were expecting. >> yeah. and i'll note that one of the ways in which he claims liberties are being violated is that they're not allowing people to harass abortion clinics. and therefore, he says that's also a violation of free speech. among other things. and he also there's very quickly to stay with vance for a moment. he also seemed to imply for a moment that u.s. troop presence in ukraine was on the table and then took it back and then said the wall street journal twisted his words. was that ever clarified, or are we threatening troops or. no. >> i don't think so. i mean, vance, very well known to russia and to the europeans, has been the leading advocate in in the trump world of cutting and running from ukraine and, and pivoting to asia to china. but
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the whole sort of pete hegseth kerfuffle of him basically making all the concessions to putin before there were any talks with russia, i think wasn't he wasn't guilty of being wrong or saying something that trump doesn't believe. he was guilty of saying it too early. this is very clearly what what trump plans for the negotiating sessions with the russians and with putin directly, something he craves. and that that's the other backdrop, really, to this munich conference, which is trump's 90 minute call with putin lifting the embargo on russia, lifting its diplomatic isolation, saying he was going to get it back into the g-7, make it the g-8 again. they are very happy in moscow. and you should see. i'm i'm sure you have joined the clips from russian tv. they are seeing this as a victory. >> indeed. i mean, and hegseth,
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you know, to add to the embarrassment, he took a far right conspiracy theorist, jack posobiec, along with him. he was protected by us military families. that never happens. he seems to have been quite the disaster. but to your point, the neville chamberlain vibes are certainly surrounding not just these two who found themselves a bit on the world stage, but really donald trump. >> yes. i mean, munich is a very unfortunately, i mean, ominously apt historic venue for this kind of message. i am encouraged and to some degree surprised by the pushback we're now beginning to see from european leaders. keir starmer mentioned britain's prime minister mentioned that no negotiation should take place without the ukrainians being at the table, that ukraine should eventually become a member of nato and uk also impose sanctions on additional members of putin's circle today. boris
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pistorius, germany's defense minister, said vance's speech was unacceptable. highly strong language for a german and to come out with us. the european counterpart to marco rubio, used the word appeasement. so talk of munich and appeasement. >> we nato may be something out that we are not a part of at any time soon. so sadly, but at least they are holding together without us. always a pleasure. thank you so much. and coming up, how trump's budget cuts and the cash bonanza he and musk have pulled off for themselves are hurting his own voters in are hurting his own voters in red states. don't go anywhere. ♪♪ no. ♪♪ -no. -nuh-uh. ♪♪ yeah. oh. yes. ♪♪ oh yeah.
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be going over so well in heavily republican greene county, tennessee, home to the nation's sole manufacturer of penny blanks and all of trump and elon musk's dismantling of government programs and slashing federal funds. yeah, spoiler alert that's going to hurt red states, too. usa, for example, has a program called food for peace, which spends hundreds of millions of dollars buying goods from american farmers and businesses to distribute around the world to help fight hunger. so gutting the agency means hurting farmers in places like kansas, where the program was founded. on top of that, you have republican senator mitch mcconnell, for years, probably trump's most notorious enabler, now warning his constituents in an op ed that the tariffs trump is promising could have have negative consequences for the state's 75,000 family farms that sell their crops around the globe, or the hardworking kentuckians who craft 95% of the world's bourbon or our auto industry. joining me now is
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angelo carusone, president and ceo of media matters, and antjuan seawright, democratic strategist. who would have thunk it? angelo, that a lot of these cuts are willy nilly being made by some 20 somethings, and the normalize indian hate guy are going to hurt trump's own base. is that message, do you think getting out beyond just local news, you watch the media? >> it's not yet. and that's i think the top line takeaway here. one is that. >> and we know where this is. >> going. >> to. >> go to. >> so that. >> low income heating program. >> where those people lost that money. >> that was straight. >> out of. >> project 2025. i mean, right. >> in the. >> 900 page book, that was one of the programs. >> that. >> they were targeting. >> so in. >> effect, trump is just. >> implementing a. >> lot of the. >> things that they've already written and prepared for. >> which means we. know what's. >> coming. >> next. >> and we know the people that are going. >> to be affected. >> by it. >> which means there's. >> no excuse for. >> for democrats, for the. >> news media not. >> to be. >> able to connect the dots. >> and your question. >> is the. >> important one.
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>> here. >> because if we don't help. >> build that. >> connective tissue for. >> his actions. >> to the harms. >> that people. >> are already experiencing. >> what's going to happen. >> is that because they have narrative. >> dominance and. >> they have that massive megaphone. >> that when. >> people start to. >> ask questions. >> hey, why is this happening? >> they're going to blame the deep. state malicious. implementation right there. and they're going to use. >> that anger and kinetic energy and turn it right back around to. >> gather more power for themselves. >> so it. >> is both. >> an important. >> opportunity, but. >> we also need to make sure we're. >> telling this. >> story so that. >> we don't we actually prevent them from using it to get stronger. >> yeah, absolutely. and you know, antoine, you have you made a video actually that, you know, that sort of sort of walks democrats through sort of a way to tell this story, not even just on the red state pain, but just on the price increases that everyone is feeling right now. i'm going to play just a little bit of that. we have it. maybe we have a little bit of that. >> we will. >> stop inflation. we will make america affordable again. we have tremendous potential in this country. >> the president's tariffs are expected to have a major impact on the price american shoppers pay. >> tariffs that could. >> raise prices.
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>> for many products. >> it will also. >> bring your grocery bill down. >> consumers can expect. >> to see increases on items like avocados, berries and meat products. >> grocery. you know, it's sort of simple but sort of means. >> like everything you eat. >> with many things. to our director, downtown sterling brown, here is your article. antoine, is trump ignoring his promises that won him the election? what should democrats be asking? where should they be playing that video? >> well, joe, i can tell you this as a as the old african american proverb tells us quite clearly, we tried to tell y'all. the fact of the matter is, what we see now is a governing style of ram, jam and screw ram. these government overreach extreme policies down the throats of the american people jam up the news cycle with multiple things at one time, and screw whatever constituency that will be impacted by these. and quite frankly, i think the american people need to understand that these policies and this government overreach, this extremism, is not just impact democrats. it does not just
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impact those who may not have been for donald trump. it impacts everyone. in my home state of south carolina, we better known in many places as the battery capital of the world, the largest investment from the inflation reduction act. perhaps in any other state. we've had 2 or 3 announcements where companies will not produce what they said they were going to produce, just in georgia a few weeks ago, the same thing. and so i think what's going to happen at the end of the day, if you look at his extremism, along with what the republicans want to do in the congress with this budget cut in terms of medicaid, people are going to be hurting. and the people who benefit the most are going to hurt the most. in my opinion, those who voted for donald trump. >> yeah. i mean, and by the way, who's going to gain the most, angelo, are, you know, trump and his family, they're already reaping money. they're selling meme coins. they're selling their personally, you know, enriching themselves. elon musk is signing himself up for contracts while canceling medicaid money. >> i mean. >> 800,000 people lost money in. >> that deal. >> you know, they thought they
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were going to get rich. >> they thought they were going to. >> make some. >> money off of trump's momentum, and. >> they lost it. and that's the. >> nature. >> of a. >> lot of these scams. >> and that's a part, you know, that's the. >> part about this that makes this even more intense, is that it's not just that they're using. policies to directly affect people and harm people and transfer wealth. >> they're also. then using their. >> cultural and social. >> influence to then fleece. >> them and pick their other pocket with the sort. >> of. >> with, you know, with. >> these other. >> gambits and that. >> you know, and then further. >> in line their pockets. >> and i mean, they are they. >> have really successfully. >> managing to double dip in the most odious ways. and one of the ways that, sure. >> remember, donald trump promised on day one he was going to bring down inflation, he was going to lower the price of car insurance and all these other things. and here we have prices of gas and goods, and everything in between are still up. and yet his constituents, who voted for him on this notion, are the ones who are suffering the most. they're not in blue states, they're not in urban cities.
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they're in rural america, they're in urban america. they're all over the country. and that's why if you look back and reflect on this election, what people understand is it was easier to be angry than it was informed, because if you were an informed voter in this election, you know, it was not a policy thing that the president put up that wanted to benefit working class americans as they thought it would have. when we tried to make this idea that the election was going to be about economics and microeconomics in particular, not one person who voted for him is benefiting from that, except that the wealthy, the well-off and the well-connected. >> it was an open book test. the book was called project 2025. last word to you on this, angelo, because there you said there were going to pivot and just blame someone. i mean, trans people are right now taking the brunt of it. i mean, they're being erased from the military. they're taking off the t in front of the stonewall memorial, which is literally stonewall was done by trans people. black trans women did it. i mean, they're literally just sort of making them vanish and disappear. it is they are
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insidious. they are. >> and that's a strategy. >> yeah. i mean, and, you know, they organize power on the fringes. and when you bring all those. >> people. >> in from the fringes, now. >> each of them get their small little piece of the puzzle, and there's a very strong segment of the right wing that wants to. erase that, erase trans people. there's a big push in right wing media about two years ago that said that this was the trans lie, and that it was only gay white men that were at stonewall. there weren't even anybody that wasn't white there. that is the narrative that they push. and part of it is to divide and to weaken. but it's also a reflection of the fact that they are fighting a culture war here and recognize that politics is downstream from culture, which is partly why he hung that. >> portrait of. >> himself in that mugshot in the white house. it's about. >> culture, about a mug shot in the white house. do we can we show this? i mean, it is the first thing you see when you go to the white house is donald trump's mug shot. it is insane. i mean, he is a convicted felon. so i guess that is what he wants people to know. don't go anywhere, angelo. there it is. angelo and antoine are sticking with me to play our favorite with me to play our favorite game.
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a couple of days, he finally let facts get in the way, and he began to internalize the truth. we're going to need a lot more of that going forward. >> and i would like to have him on the show. so if you're out there, buddy, we would like to interview you. antoine, who won the week? >> the courts, the lower courts, some obama judges. i think biden judges, those who are trying to deal with in real time, co-president elon musk and donald trump for their overreach. the courts have done the blocking and tackling for us. thank god for the lower court. >> all right. they are still standing. okay, my. who won the week guys? my pick comes. my pick actually combines one of my deepest night terrors with the blessings of great good luck. now just take a look at this video. as a man on a kayak is literally swallowed by a ginormous humpback whale. the nightmare took place this week in the strait of magellan in chilean patagonia. and if that doesn't look like winning and it should not. also watch as the whale spits him right back out. moments later, 24 year old
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adrian simancas, his father, captured the horrifying scene on video before kayaking out to retrieve his briefly slimed son. simancas later told reporters yes, at first when i thought i had died, it was like, of course, a lot of terror. i thought, no, no, there's nothing i can do. understatement of the already too long year. but by surviving the scariest taste test in the history of everything and living to tell about it like jonah in the bible, this thankfully rejected whale morsel. adrian simancas. simancas. i think i'm pronouncing his name wrong. he's still alive. he's still alive. so he clearly won the week. angela carusone, who i think i pronounced your name right. antjuan seawright who? i think i pronounced your name right. thank you both. and that is tonight's reidout. you can follow me on blue sky at and instagram at joy-ann reid and on tiktok at tiktok. joy reid official. follow our show accounts on instagram and the reidout tiktok at the readout on blue sky and joy@msnbc.com. and by the way, here are my two friends that i got from my husband for valentine's day.
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