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>> welcome back to. >> the third. >> hour of. >> the weekend. breaking overnight. >> the justice. >> department has moved to dismiss. >> corruption charges against new york city. mayor eric adams. the filing comes. >> after an extraordinary internal rebellion because of the intense pressure from department officials. seven department. >> officials left their. >> posts, including. >> now former. >> top.

>> manhattan prosecutor danielle sassoon. who alleged to attorney general pam bondi that adams lawyers urged, quote. >> what amounted. >> to a quid pro quo. an ally in trump's immigration. >> agenda for an end to the mayor's. >> legal woes. >> now, nbc news. reports that. deputy attorney general amiel. >> beauvais convened a meeting with the remaining. >> lawyers in. >> the doj's public integrity. unit to determine who. >> would sign the controversial motion. >> two sources. >> say beauvais expressly promised leadership positions. >> to. >> those who agreed to sign and file it. it is now up to a federal judge whether to grant that dismissal. >> joining us now. >> conservative lawyer george conway. >> convened the meeting. and allegedly in that meeting apparently said, if no one is willing to speak up here, you all are getting fired and we're going to find somebody else to do it. what do you think about this? is this worse than the friday night massacre that they told us about with nixon? >> yeah, i mean. that what happened in the nixon administration only involved. >> just, you. >> know, the firing of one individual and the resignation.

>> of two people. >> at what, one was the attorney general, the other was the deputy. attorney general. but this is much worse because this. is going to the functioning. of us attorney's offices nationwide. and it really is. i mean. we we're seeing a. justice department, including the. >> fbi. >> that is on the. >> edge of a full scale revolt. >> because they're being asked to do things that are just contrary. >> to what. >> they are. obligations to. >> the nation are and their ethical. obligations as lawyers. and those. >> letters that we saw, written. >> by danielle sassoon and the chief assistant us attorney that was on the adams case. >> were. >> really. really extraordinary. i mean, they're basically just saying, like, you are asking us to make. >> a. >> baseless motion to dismiss. this case for. reasons that have nothing to do with its merits, but everything to do with. >> with. >> with politics. and that is just not, you know, that is just not the. >> proper role. >> of federal. >> do we have the letters? i think we have danielle sussman's

letter and hagen's letter. we can put it up. >> hagen's letter is the best. >> danielle sassoon. this is her letter to pam bondi, where she writes, adam's attorneys repeatedly urged what amounted to a quid pro quo, indicating that adams would be in a position to assist with the department's enforcement priorities only if the indictment were dismissed. mr. beauvais admonished a member of my team who took notes during. >> that. >> meeting and. directed the collection of those notes at the. >> meeting's conclusion. >> what does the letter say? what's the hagen's letter? he ended the letter with, but it was never going to be me. >> right. no. he basically. >> said, you know, he kind of was protective of trump and protective of the trump administration. >> he essentially said he agreed. >> he was he told us he was a republican. >> yeah. >> he is. i mean, he was a you know, he was a he was a kavanaugh clarke and a roberts clarke. he's a fed soc. >> type like i. >> have been. and what he basically said was i don't put i am not saying this. because i have some problem. overall with the administration. i'm saying this because it's wrong. and he basically said and he basically sort of. excused trump by saying, well, you know, he's

just a businessman. he doesn't know anything about law. i mean, you know. he let's leave a part that he's a criminal, but okay. and he said, you know, if nobody within earshot of the president's going to tell him this is wrong, you know, i, i don't know what what what you could do here. he said something like, i guess some you're going to find somebody who's a fool enough or a cow or a coward enough to do this, but it was never going to. be me. >> so for me, this, this, all of this boils down to a moment. >> it is a moment. >> it's one particular moment on a couch. >> yeah. at fox. >> news, in which you have eric adams and tom homan sitting there, in which mr. adams, the mayor, is, you know, claiming how much this is not what you think it is. and, you know, i'm somehow this independent, independent player and homan

setting the record straight. let's let's take a quick listen to this. if we can imagine him going inside saying that the only way mayor adams is going to assist in immigration, which i was calling for, for since 2022, is if you drop the charges, that's quid pro quo. that's a crime. >> if he doesn't come through, i'll be back in new york. >> city. >> and we won't be sitting on a couch. i'll be in his office up, up his butt saying, where the hell is the agreement we came to? >> so you've got the mayor sitting there laughing while tom homan is basically emasculating him, right? going to be up his butt, right? if he doesn't do what we've already agreed he's going to do. and they. >> have. >> how pathetically? anyway, i'll just let you. >> because in the name of in the name of tackling. >> the criminality of undocumented. >> thank you, alicia, for. >> sitting there next to quo on the fox. >> thank you. the quo.

>> right. >> and here's what's what. here's the. >> thing. the justice. >> department wants. this indictment. >> to be dismissed without prejudice. >> which means. >> that's. >> legal terms. for we can bring. >> it again. >> so basically when coleman's talking about up the but excuse me, he's basically saying he's basically hooking on to that and basically saying. >> we can. >> indict you if you don't do what we want. >> that's right. >> but i. >> also think. >> that there was something more going on here. >> than this. immigration for dismissal trade. >> i think this. >> has a lot. >> to do with. >> donald trump's pathological narcissism. this guy. >> came in and kissed the ring. that's it. that's the most important thing to donald trump. donald trump doesn't give a about immigration. >> truth be. >> told. >> he only wants to use it as a cudgel, which. >> is. >> why he why he tanked that immigration bill. last year. i mean, in fact, back in the 2016 campaign, when it.

>> first started. >> they couldn't get him to talk about immigration. and the way they got him to. >> talk about. >> immigration is, hey, talk about you being such a great builder. you could build a wall. and all of a sudden he got interested in that, and then he got all the, you know. the seals clapping and he says that's he's been riding that that kick ever since. and he doesn't actually care about solving the problem. he only wants to. exacerbate it and blame somebody else. >> i mean it putting the finest point on it. i think you're absolutely right. he also, i think, enjoys having the mayor of new york city in his pocket. yeah, donald trump himself, someone who has, you know, loved to fashion himself as the highest of high society. >> do you. >> mean the chairman of the kennedy center? >> oh, of course. >> i mean. >> again, i. >> i don't want to change the subject. >> shall never be better now. >> the greatest. >> we're only gonna have the best start. >> the best start. >> we have. >> what do. >> you think is going to happen here? because i thought that tish james was very know. it was notable for me yesterday when

she was asked about, you know, what is she what does she think should happen to mayor adams? should he be removed? should he not be removed? and tish james said, well, there are lots of conversations happening right now, and i don't want to speak until those conversations are are complete about the fate of the mayor. so i think there's a lot of people that are like, and you need to go. and the lieutenant governor has said that the mayor should step down or be removed. >> so. >> i mean, i don't know. i mean. >> it's up to kathy. >> hochul. >> and i. >> think the problem. >> from the prosecutorial. >> standpoint is, is that i don't know. that a state, a state. >> prosecutor can catch up to what. >> this investigation of adams has been going on for years. i mean, i think through multiple u.s. attorneys of both parties, this, this, this investigation has been going on. and so. >> i you know. >> i don't think the federal government obviously isn't going to turn over all the evidence it has to the state. and i don't, you know, i don't know that, you know, they could that the state

could bring a prosecution in any realistic timeframe. i have no idea. but hochul can remove him and we've seen enough here. we haven't seen nobody's made the case for this mayor. and this isn't about, you know, he. >> didn't even make the case. >> he didn't make the case, right? there's nothing in the case, you know, and it's not. yeah. >> the voters will. i mean, at the end of the day, if we get past all of. >> this. >> what they. >> said about proper look. >> yeah. no. >> he's very unpopular, though in new york city. >> look, at the end of the day, the system is not going to do what a lot of folks are expecting the system to do. it's just not right. the governor is not going to remove him because of the optics and the politics of removing a black man from the job. the justice. needs to the justice department is not going to touch it either because of what donald trump wants and how corrupt they've now become. so at the end of the day, this all boils down his fate. no matter how much he wants to dance around about it, you can flip and switch parties all day long.

you put your name on a ballot. new yorkers have to decide whether this corruption stands with them, because they know at the heart of what this is about, as you said, counselor, that this has been going on for some time. this is not made up out of whole cloth by the biden administration or some democrat in the corner. this has been going on, so people need to understand one that point. and two, this ultimately rests in their hands because the system has been corrupted and will not do what you expect it to do. so get your heads straight on this and don't be surprised. come election day, there's a ballot in front of you. go, well, i thought i thought the justice department was going to handle this. >> no, bishop michael steele. it's on you. >> it's on you. i mean, right, i mean, yeah, at the end of the day. >> right? i think that's right. if hochul doesn't do it and i don't know whether she has the spine to do it. yeah, that's exactly where we end up. and it's really, really remarkable because again, there hasn't been

a real you know, i know he's entitled you know, if his liberty is going to be taken away, he's entitled to a criminal trial beyond a reasonable doubt. but he's not entitled to be mayor of the city of. >> new york. >> yes. okay. and if we have not. heard a defense. not only that. daniel sassoon sassoon's letter pointed out that they were ready to re indict him to bring obstruction charges. interestingly, the same kind of charges trump faced in florida, you know, basically urging people to destroy evidence, lying to the fbi, you know, obstruction. >> other people. so that's why you. >> love. >> each other. >> people within the new york apparatus, within his office have resigned, have been under investigation. let's not forget, we got the text messages from his aide being like, these are the flights the mayor wants. honestly, they're just playing in our faces. and i'm. i guess i'm with michael. please, people of new york, please put us out of our misery come election time. don't do it to us again.

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election before that, are republican judges. >> many of them. yes. >> many scrambled that. >> he has scrambled. >> many of them. >> appointed by him. >> but that. >> is so old. school of us, because you're. >> still thinking. >> of it the way i think of. >> it. >> which is democrats, republicans, progressives, conservatives. >> he has made it inside and out, right. these people are part of the institution. and thus they are part of the deep state. >> regardless of the fact that he appointed. >> them, because. >> regardless of the fact that he. himself was president of the united states. >> he somehow convinced. >> people. that he. >> was once again an outsider. >> he's trying to delegitimize the legal system, i think so that it is very easy for him to ignore the laws, and then the people will be with him because the people are like, yeah, these activist judges. and it's like, what? the judges can only consider the cases brought before them. the judges aren't going out here being like, i hereby decree people are bringing cases and they are ruling not with some animus towards trump, but like for the law, this is law being applied fairly. >> and to simone's point,

prosecutors are prosecuting. persuaded me. >> well, we'd like to. >> violently agree. >> i agree. >> with everything. >> you're saying, but but they're they're prosecuting because elements of a crime have been brought in front of them and they, by order of their sworn oath, follow, follow the crime. and if the crime happens to lead to your death, donald trump, because of something you did. that's not that's not political. that's not personal. that's just the way the system works. for every other brother and sister out here on the street. >> the way i look at it is. >> donald trump is a criminal sociopath. he ticks off. the definition of a sociopath. they don't want to obey laws. they don't want to obey rules. they don't think they apply to them. and donald trump has no moral conscience and no empathy doesn't he does not care about anybody else other than donald trump, which is why in his first term, he said, article two lets me do whatever i want. article

two the constitution, the first trump term, which i call one, was a, you know, was was was an assault on the rule of law, but it was only like a it was like cancer. it was like a stage one, maybe stage two. we got to stage two right around january 6th. and he was a threat to the rule of law. and then he went into remission. now he's back. we're at stage three. stage three is basically where. >> we. >> are ignoring laws and running roughshod over laws. i mean, you know, basically refusing to spend money appropriated by congress, which is against the law. the law requires the president to spend money. president can't not spend the money that's been allocated for particular subjects. and you've got this guy who's not been appointed lawfully under the. let's talk about that. musk. and so that's stage three. stage four is going to be well, these courts are telling me not to obey orders. why should i don't

want to obey the law. so why don't i why am i paying the courts. and stage four is metastasis. stage four is when democracy can die and the rule of law can die and constitutionalism can die. >> and we. >> unless something happens radically, i can't see how we don't get to stage four because the logical path that they are taking, which is, is that the law doesn't apply to us and nobody can enforce the law against us. >> yes, they're saying these are these activist judges are saying these things. we can't take the judges seriously. they literally are like by they i'm talking about jd vance, donald trump himself, elon musk are saying, since when can a judge tell the president what to do? so i want. >> you. >> to riddle something out for me, which is, let's say elon musk goes. >> after cfpb. >> has his fingerprints. >> all over cfpb, given. >> that he. >> has. >> a business. >> interest before. >> cfpb that would benefit you. then you. have people saying,

well, then you could. >> have charges of. >> criminal conflict. >> of interest. >> that were brought. >> those charges though. >> would have to be brought. >> by trump's doj. >> correct. okay. so i think given what. >> we are. >> watching, that seems unlikely. what then is the legal mechanism? it's worse than that. okay, okay. it's worth everyone around. trump feels like they are immune from prosecution. okay. and that's includes musk. it includes a guy like a boris epstein who tried to hold people up for cabinet positions. it includes everyone around him. they have no fear of ever being investigated. if you're friendly with trump, like mayor adams, you get a pass. and if even if the justice department were highly unlikely to charge you, guess who could give you a pardon if you go back and kiss the ring? okay, so but it's worse than that. you point out that the justice department isn't going to prosecute any of these minions. it's worse than

that. the justice department is the only way courts can enforce orders. i'm a judge, and you do something in your court and you throw something at me. i can throw you in. i can throw you in jail for civil contempt, okay? or criminal contempt. if you if you enforce my orders, i can i can hold as judge. i can have you thrown in jail. how do i do that? i say, marshal, take her away. >> guess who. >> the us marshal. >> service were. >> oh my god. >> the united. >> states department. >> of justice. >> and who does the united states department of justice report to? this is the problem. the courts have no police of their own. they have no army of their own. the only thing that stands between us and utter lawlessness is our willingness, and in particular, the willingness of government officials, including and especially the president of the united states, to obey the court orders even when they have good

faith disagreements with those orders. and this president doesn't have good faith disagreement and these orders, he does not care. he is a lawless criminal. and we have basically a criminal regime. and if you believe that they are going to enforce, are going to abide by court orders, they're not going to do it. they're already probably trying to slide around the court orders, but they're not quite yet in open defiance. but we will get there. >> yeah, i think i think we'll get there much sooner than people may realize, because the speed of this matters, the speed with which they are coming at the system matters. if they did it slowly give folks a chance to regroup and sort of collect themselves. but now you've got. >> like a safety blitz. >> i mean. >> the states, the us attorneys general, you've got individual organizations and some individuals out there just just running to catch the lawsuits

and throw them out there. that's part of breaking down the system. >> you know, it's funny though. it cuts. >> a little both ways there. >> i don't think the justice department. >> is going to be able to. >> defend all of these suits, because there are so many of them, and they have limited. >> resources at the. >> justice department. and some of these lawyers are going to quit, as we have just seen. so they're going to not be able to defend these orders, which tells me they're just going to disobey them. and what they're going to do is they're going to order the marshal service, not to enforce any orders, any contempt orders against government officials, federal government officials who are disobeying orders or court. >> orders at the at. >> the behest of the president. >> and to your further to your. >> i hate. >> to i'm so cheery. >> no. >> no, no. >> but it's like dang george, but you further the truth and the. people need. >> to know. >> because some people. >> got it. i've been. >> saying, have you believe. >> i've been saying this? >> okay. >> i've been saying this to law professors. i'm saying this to smart lawyers. i've been saying it to smart historians and smart

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us from the. >> trump musk takeover. >> and any. >> person who tells you otherwise, especially if that. >> person is an elected democrat in congress, is selling you an excuse for inaction and complacency. trump and musk are barbarians. >> at the gate. >> calling in the lawyers to tell. >> them. their trespassing isn't going. >> to halt their advance. >> i could not agree more. i just think fundamentally this requires something that i think each of us, as individuals and institutions, are going to have to reach deep down inside and pull out at the end of the day, the you know, i love this, this visual of, you know, the barbarians at the gate, but this is worse than barbarians. >> you would you would really like. >> the beginning of this piece where elie. says that democrats. >> are like the. varsity chess team being told. >> it's their. >> time to start the football game. >> right? >> like. >> oh. >> that's. oh, lord. accurate. >> so accurate. >> what? but, michael. >> yes. >> what are what what would you

have us do? >> i would, i would actually you know what? i just like you to show that you give a damn that you got a little emotion about the fact that people are losing their jobs indiscriminately. that that this, this individual sitting down the 1600 pennsylvania avenue has given absolute power to one man who brings his son into the into the oval office, whose son says to him, you're not the president. you shouldn't be in that chair. now, where did he get that from? he got it from his daddy, because that's what his daddy thinks of the man who brought him into the oval office. so i just like to see somebody wake the hell up and get excited about the fact that your country is under assault. the they're not at the gate anymore. they're in your bedrooms. they're in your living rooms, they're in your businesses. they got they got your data. they got all your stuff. elon musk has his

tentacles in everything you're doing, not just off of x, but now he's in the treasury department. he's in the labor department, he's in the department of homeland security, and nobody seems to give a damn. so that's all i want somebody to show that they care enough to get off their fat and say something about it. >> they're going to have to be republicans. who then ultimately. >> oh, the hell with. >> republicans. >> won't do anything. they're the problem. >> from a numbers perspective. >> my point is, if you. >> actually want any real accountability, it's like it's like you've seen we have jamie raskin on last week and he's. >> talking. >> about sort of this novel. >> legal theory. and he was asked, are you willing to. >> bring articles impeachment yet again. >> to president trump? and he. >> said, you find me 2 or 3 republicans, and then we actually have a conversation. but that's a. >> that's a ballot box thing. so what's the strategy to get those people who are strip mining our federal bureaucracy, who are stripping away your rights? how do they keep their seats? >> it hasn't even been a month. thank you. we are supposed to

wait until the midterm elections. i don't, and at this. >> point to the midterm election. >> well, i guess what i am saying is, and i know they told me i got 30s, but like, i, i, i used to not be one of those people that were like, people are like, oh, we're not going to have elections in four years. i'm like, y'all gotta chill out. i am thoroughly concerned about how we survive. and it just makes me think about this movie that i saw on the plane a couple months ago, civil war. it wasn't necessarily great, but in civil, i know we got to go. but in the movie civil war, like all hell is breaking loose in washington dc and in places all across the country. and there were people in in the middle of the country that were just living their lives like nothing was happening. and i think that that is actually where we are, and they're going to be a lot of people that are gonna continue to just go on about their daily lives as though rome is not burning. well. >> next. >> maryland attorney general anthony brown, stay with us. we'll tell you why. he's the man with the plan to talk to today. with the plan to talk to today. you're watching the weekend.

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powers without seeking the advice and consent of the senate. but federal judge tanya chutkan didn't seem convinced that the states showed enough evidence of imminent harm. at one point, chutkan told a lawyer from the maryland attorney general's office, quote, you're essentially asking me to shut down the government. the lawyer replied, we're asking you to shut down a constitutional violation that we haven't seen in this country. joining us now, maryland attorney general anthony brown. welcome. >> general brown, good morning to you. where do you go from here. >> on that particular effort? >> so we're in court. >> in the district of columbia arguments yesterday. all of these arguments are. >> are are tough. these are tough cases. we're filing. >> proposed orders today. >> look, what we're alleging. >> is that elon. musk and his sort of designation. as some. super employee violates the appointments clause. the constitution. says if you're going to wield that kind of power as a federal. >> official.

>> you've. >> got to be. >> properly vetted and go through a confirmation. process with the united states senate. he's done none. >> of that. >> he's got access to financial data. personal information. it's dangerous. >> so we're. >> in court. we're going to propose an order. >> and. >> you know, it was a. >> it was a difficult hearing yesterday, but we'll continue pursuing it. propose an order, get a good. >> result. >> and continue litigating this issue. >> let's read what judge chutkan said, because it is. she seemed to express a lot of skepticism yesterday. and this is reporting from yesterday. judge chutkan repeatedly questioned what imminent harm the states were facing from musk and doj's work that would warrant an incredibly broad temporary restraining order. she also said that plaintiff's use of words like perhaps and may, when describing how states could be harmed by doj's actions, undercut their argument that irreversible harm was imminent. you're saying i should tell dodge and their officials to stop what they're

doing because we don't know what they're doing, she said. and this is from daniel barnes of nbc news. so what is your take on this, general brown? are the are you all going to come back and retool your argument to narrow it a little more? your motion here, or do you believe that the broadness of the suit that you all have brought is warranted? >> i think. >> it's warranted. the broad nature of the suit. we're going to be responsive to the. judge's request. but look, in maryland alone, the central payment system in the u.s. treasury. spends $11 billion to the. >> state of maryland. >> 50 billion to the. >> residents of maryland. >> we've seen elon musk go literally into federal agencies telling them to shut down without. >> using the proper. >> procedures and protocol. >> so this is a dangerous person in a. >> very important position. >> so we're saying to the. >> judge. >> we've got to stop this. >> and as a minimum, right. >> access to the central. >> payment system, the ability

to go into agencies, because that does have direct harm. on marylanders. >> and. >> you know, residents throughout the country. >> general, this reminds me so much of situations in which you bring concern, evidence, facts to an argument, to a case. and, and folks say, well, essentially we got to wait till something bad happens before we do something, which is why i think a lot of folks out here are beginning to express, as our friend, we were talking about before, that the courts are not going to save us in this, that with all due respect to the lawsuits. and that's great. continue suing. at the end of the day, you're going to have judges who are going to parse and they're going to, you know, piecemeal. they're going to approach this from a appropriate

judicial constitutional perspective. but do you get the sense that and i know you're in a tough position when i ask this question. do you get the sense that, you know, they don't get that this is the house is on fire? it may not be burning in the room you're in, but the back porch is on fire, right? and it's spreading into the kitchen. and when it hits the stove, it could be a massive explosion. so i mean, how how do you frame this up so that the, you know, this, you don't die on the hill of, oh, it's just too broad and i can't, i can't rule because it's too broad. >> keep in mind that. >> a lot. >> of the issues. >> presented to the. >> courts, i mean, these are difficult questions. balancing the authority of the president versus the. >> rights of, of. residents and the. >> the. >> interests of. >> of states. but we've. enjoyed

some. >> successes thus far. >> the birthright citizenship. >> we got a temporary. >> restraining order and. >> not just. >> attorneys general in an action brought. >> in maryland, where. >> the federal government. wants to, you know, withhold. money when. >> gender affirming care. services are provided by an institution. >> there's been successes there. >> we've enjoyed successes in the court in rhode island when it comes to the. federal funding freeze. so judges. >> are observing. >> they're seeing they're appreciating the real harm that could be caused across this country, the chaos, withholding of benefits and services. and funding to families and communities and residents who. >> have. >> relied on this forever. >> and look, the president has awesome authority and awesome power, but it's not unlimited. and in exercising that. >> authority, courts. >> recognize there's a process. there are rules and statutes that govern that. >> so i think. >> courts see that. and we're seeing some early successes and not to raise expectations. this is the early stage of

litigation. >> but we're confident that there are. >> judges who will ultimately reach that decision, that it's unlawful. >> it's. >> both the process and the reach. and perhaps many of these cases will make it to the supreme court. >> john. >> i got to admit, i am. very impressed that in this game. >> of defense, you. >> have managed. >> to. find room to play offense on wednesday on maryland. >> and baltimore sued. >> glock over the device enabling. machine gun fire. >> can you sort of. >> talk us through. >> that litigation and just. >> the simple choice to bring. >> it in the midst of everything. >> else. that is going on? >> the office of attorney general, not just in maryland, but around the country, day in and day out. we're busy and we've been so before president trump was elected. and we're going to continue to be so consumer protection, you know, making sure we have competitive marketplaces, the criminal investigations, enforcement we do. so you know, we were teeing up a lawsuit against glock. a glock is irresponsibly selling

into our communities pistols that can be easily modified with an auto sear to convert it into a machine gun. other manufacturers have been able to prevent that type of easy modification. so we're in court saying, look, glock has. >> to stop. they they they. >> sell guns in europe. that cannot be easily modified. so we're saying, hey, stop pushing these guns that are easily modified into machine guns. and we're asking for a monetary recovery to address the harms that they have contributed to. look, i hear people say, you know, guns don't kill people. do i can assure you that in maryland, we are investigating and prosecuting those who who unlawfully use handguns to kill and harm residents in maryland. we are doing that. we're bringing actions that are difficult against gun shops. and yes, we're going to bring actions against gun manufacturers. and glock is one of them. and we filed the action on wednesday. we're not going to allow this chaos in washington

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balances. >> there's a lot being thrown at the american people right now, and it is. >> really. >> important to pay. attention to. >> it, but. >> it is just as important to recognize how many of those things are getting announced. but they're not happening. >> at all. >> or at least not yet. just try to remember we are not looking at the final score. >> we are still. >> in the. >> first quarter. >> keep your. >> pads on. the game has just begun. >> trump's take over. >> at the kennedy center is prompting. >> backlash from the music, theater and film communities after he replaced the board of trustees with loyalists and was elected chair. several stars announced that they are cutting ties with the prestigious arts institution, including shonda rhimes, issa rae, ben folds, and more. >> i just looked up because some people might say, why is the kennedy center such a big deal? and the kennedy center was established by a commission.

well, a commission in 1955, established under dwight d eisenhower, you know, commission to for a cultural center in the nation's capital to take its place on the world stage. and that is the that is where the kennedy center comes from. that's the history of it. and i do think it's a big deal, because culture, we keep using the term culture nowadays, and culture isn't just about one specific type of person, type of thing, type of genre. culture is expansive. it it runs the gamut across the board. and the thing that the kennedy center has been a good had been good at in the past, from democratic and republican presidents, regardless of who was in office, is ensuring that they are inclusive of the expansive culture in this country. just last night, there was a for love of go-go event at the kennedy center. >> they want to define. >> what that. >> culture is, and that culture is not the expansion into a go go night. it is not having

talented african american, hispanic, asian american artists on stage who do all kinds of creative things. this, for me, was summed up in an article i read in which one of the interviewees was quoted as saying, this is great. now maybe, maybe we can get some country music on the kennedy center stage. i'm like, well, country music has performed at the kennedy center. i've actually performed at the kennedy center. i have. i have. i'll tell you about that. i did, i did with back with the first. the first regional choir was put together from choirs here in, in the dmv back in the late 70s when i was in high school, and we got to perform on the kennedy center stage. that's what the culture is. it is bringing the community together in ways that you otherwise don't get to

experience, don't see expressed. what we're seeing now is the sort of the dumbing down and the whitening of this effort. i don't know what donald trump plans to bring to the kennedy center. i don't know how he's going to do that in his day job. okay. >> because he's now the chair. >> because he's. >> now their. >> favorite musical. >> so we may see evita. >> just on repeat. >> back to back performances. >> of evita. >> so with donald trump playing evita. >> donald just outside the. >> casa rosada, i. >> also want to be clear though. >> like. >> i think this. is validating for those of us who. >> love the arts and. care about the arts, that the arts have incredible power. >> and if you. >> look at what donald trump. >> is doing. >> we know that he has. >> followed viktor orban's playbook to a. t as it relates to. >> crushing the judiciary. >> as it relates to trying to. >> crush an independent and fair press. >> but also. >> part. >> of what. viktor orban. >> has done is gone. >> after arts and culture. >> in his own country. appointed

leaders that agree with him. >> to boards done all of. >> these sort of. >> nationalistic art. >> shows inside. >> of institutions. >> because he does have an understanding. >> that emotion. >> and memory. >> to your point, is all shaped and shifted. >> by the culture. >> i guess to me, part of what is surprising here. >> is just how quickly and soon he did this, that this. >> was a. >> day one priority. >> i mean, very quickly. but to your point, there is a playbook and he is executing the playbook. music and arts have the have the ability to inspire communities. it can shift culture. it can. it has inspired movements in the past. i mean, you think about the happy birthday song, the stevie wonder version that was stevie wonder wrote that in coordination with the push to get the mlk day holiday, that's what it was about. you know, there were the arts and culture have been always been instrumental in all of the change that has happened, particularly in this country. and so this is a really an assault, if you will, on on the arts. and i think that's why you've seen so many people

resign or cancel. so what do you think. >> should happen to those those. >> cancels i think i think reschedule reschedule in the city there are wonderful places for you to come to arena stage. issa rae, we'd love to have you there. constitution hall. constitution hall, come to roundhouse theater for performance. there are wonderful places you can go in the dmv other than the kennedy center, given the way this is playing. >> and shout out to deborah rutter because she was really good at incorporating local voices. and i'm just like, i don't know what's going to happen here. >> cast michael steele so he can continue being. >> the most. interesting man in the entire world. all right, stick around. >> there is more ahead. >> and coming up on. >> velshi, it's a brand. new edition of the. >> velshi banned book club. >> today, ali is going to be joined by author gillian flynn to discuss her bestseller, gone girl. that's coming. >> up at 10 a.m. eastern right here on msnbc. do not go anywhere. >> we will. keep you. >> and, doug.

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