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administration's move to dismiss corruption charges against new york city mayor eric adams has proved has pushed the city's politics to the brink and has sparked a revolt inside the us department of justice. the scandal caps off another whirlwind week for this white house, where president trump stood by elon musk and his chaotic quest to dismember the federal government. and republican senators rolled over for trump's highly controversial cabinet picks. democrats sat at at at the local, state, federal level are faced with the challenge of keeping up with the reckless pace of this new president and trying to determine whether there can be any compromise with the republican party. more fixated on tearing down and paid back than building consensus. we start tonight with democratic

senator from minnesota, tina smith. senator, thanks for joining us this evening. >> thank you. reverend. >> it's so good to be with you this evening. >> let's start with the adams situation. the justice department finally filed a request to drop charges against the new york city mayor. last night, the motion was signed by the number two leader of the justice department or at the justice department after the lead prosecutor in manhattan and at least six others refused the order and resigned from the doj. doj. how big a deal is this? >> this is a. >> huge deal. >> this is. a shocking level of corruption and lawlessness. here you have in plain sight the president of the united states making a deal with the corrupt mayor of new york out front, quid pro quo. and what's really incredible. is to see the words coming out of the mouths of

these prosecutors who resigned rather than follow the orders of the political leaders at the department of justice. these are people who are have sterling conservative credentials. they are not democratic judges or prosecutors by any stretch of the imagination, so that they wouldn't put up with it is, i think, a sign of how far donald trump is going. and then, of course, at the end of the day, what you see here is the justice department through resignations, the people who are loyal to the rule of law are getting called. and who's going to be left are the people who truly are going to be just doing the president's bidding. >> and the lead prosecutor, i might add, was a clerk to justice scalia. hardly. or someone considered centrist and very cynical move by the trump administration. i'm going to address it later in the show. but this week, it became clear that the senate will serve as little more than a rubber stamp

for trump's controversial cabinet. tulsi gabbard and robert f kennedy jr were easily confirmed, and kash patel seems to be on the glide path as well. do you ever think you would see the your republican colleagues in the senate roll over for nominees so far, outside of the american political mainstream? >> it is just really incredible. i would expect that my republican colleagues would stand up for the rights and responsibilities of the united states senate. you know, the constitution tells us that we have the responsibility, the obligation to provide advice and consent. and so you look at this and you ask yourself for each one of these nominees, this is what i ask, can i trust these individuals to follow the rule of law? and time after time after time with these nominees, you have to answer. if you're answering honestly, no. but my republican colleagues, i think, are under incredible pressure. they are. there's threats of

money being spent against them, physical threats that are out there online from these elon musk, you know, boxers online purses their responsibility to stand up to that. but that they're not is, i think, a real tragedy. and it is a serious situation when you think of robert f kennedy jr, leading the department of health and human services, an individual who spent the last 20 years trying to tell americans that vaccines aren't safe. >> now, let's shift to a foreign policy. trump is continuing to double down on his talk of taking over gaza, even amidst an uneasy ceasefire and sensitive hostages released, he held a phone call with russian president vladimir putin this week as his administration sends mixed signals about its continued support of ukraine, and also sent secretary of state marco rubio to saudi arabia to help start peace talks with russian and ukrainian

negotiators. and his vice president has been in munich speaking sympathetically about germany's far right party, which many germans believe minimizes the atrocities committed by the nazis. what is the image this new administration is projecting on the world stage? >> so these new leaders of the trump administration have gone to europe. and what do they do? they basically are attacking our allies. and i think americans need to understand that that makes us less safe. it weakens our global alliances. it makes it strengthens russia, it strengthens china. and to imagine vice president vance going and criticizing germany for clamping down on free speech when his administration is the one that fired all the inspectors general. his administration is the one that won't even let the ap into cover white house press conferences. the cynicism of this is just beyond the pale. and it's i want

to particularly draw people's attention to what happened with trump speaking to putin directly and about the resolving the conflict in ukraine completely, boxing out our allies in europe, completely boxing out ukraine, and then seeming to just give away the things that putin most wants before the negotiation has even started. i mean, i think the nicest thing you could say about this is what my colleague roger wicker, republican, said when he said of hegseth was a rookie mistake. i think it's much more serious than that. >> senator, this week you said you would not be running for reelection in 2026. this is your first national cable interview since you made the announcement. can you talk a little bit about why you made that decision? i've had the occasion of being in minnesota, working with you around george floyd's case. dante wright, you've been on this show. many people will miss your standing up. what brought

you to this decision? >> well, reverend sharpton, i will continue to stand up in all the ways that i can, and i have two more years left in my term. but at the end of the day, this was a purely personal decision for me. i was thinking about how i wanted to spend the next ten years of my life, and i love my family, and i'm a grandmother, and i see so many ways that i can be with them and also continue to be involved in my community here in minnesota. but i also just want to say that given that i will not have to run an election in minnesota, i was confident that i could have won, but it would have been a lot of work. i wouldn't have taken it for granted. that means i can put all of my energy into this very scary next two years, where we are literally protecting our democracy, and that feels like the right thing to do for me right now. >> your colleague, senator gary peters of michigan, also announced late last month he would not seek another term. there are a number of

recognizable democratic names currently considering running for your seats. i want to ask you your favorites, but can you talk about the message you'd like to see? the next generation of democratic leaders send to voters in the midwest in the upcoming midterm elections? >> well, first, one of the things that really mobilizes and motivates me is making room for the new generation, the next generation of leaders, very talented leaders in minnesota to step in who are more than ready to do this job. i don't have that politician. some politicians have the idea that they're indispensable in this role, and i don't i just don't feel that way. i think very much that democrats have to be loud and clear about how we are standing up for people to be able to be safe, to be able to be economically secure, that we are fighting for them and that we are fighting against these billionaires and wealthy people. who is who? clearly, that is who

donald trump is fighting for in this moment. and i mean, reverend sharpton, democrats have a lot of work to do to build a stronger relationship with regular voters, regular folks in this country, so that they really do see that we are on their side. and i'm going to do everything i can to help rebuild that relationship. >> all right. thank you for being with us. senator tina smith of minnesota, president trump's dodge commission, run by billionaire buddy elon musk, continues to tear through the federal government, cutting off payments and firing workers. critics say without any regard for existing laws and regulations. the pain from the cuts is spreading even to heavily republican states like alabama, where low income households are poised to lose federal assistance for their energy bills. the state's rocky city aerospace sector in huntsville is bracing for

layoffs and cuts to health research at the university of alabama have gone so deep that senator katie britt has become one of the first republican lawmakers to call for more targeted approaches. joining me now is democratic alabama congresswoman terri sewell, who represents the state's seventh district. thank you for being with us again, congresswoman. >> thank you. >> so much, reverend. >> now, congresswoman, on tuesday, you held an emergency town hall to hear from your people in your district, about the district, about trump's administration's dismantling of federal services. we're hearing tonight the administration has fired a number of immigration lawyers. despite a backlog of roughly 3.5 million million cases, what have your constituents been telling you about all the cuts? >> we know. >> we had. >> an emergency town hall meeting. and more.

>> than 20,000. >> of my. >> constituents joined our. >> line. and over. 2000 remained. >> on. >> the line for. >> the whole hour. >> they are frightened. they are scared. >> they are scared of their jobs. they're scared. that they're going to lose their. >> services, whether that's social security. or that's head start. they're just frightened about. >> what's going on. >> and as you said, these the damage that the trump administration. is doing is not just affecting. >> blue states. >> it's affecting red states. it's affecting all of us. and we here in. alabama depend. >> a lot. >> on the university. >> of alabama, birmingham. uab is one of our largest employers. >> and over $300 million come in every. year for medical research. and this is 5000 jobs. >> it's, you know. >> people's livelihoods. >> and so. >> it's just simply unacceptable. >> i mean, we. talk the whole hour about what. house

democrats. >> are doing. >> to push back. >> and i just wanted. >> my constituents to know. >> that we are. >> legislating. >> we are litigating, and. >> we are mobilizing against these horrible lawlessness that the trump administration is trying to exact upon us. >> now, much of the work of the doj's group would seem to undermine the constitutional role of congress in controlling government spending. and yet, this week, georgia congresswoman marjorie taylor greene held the first hearing of her d.o.j. subcommittee, where she's mostly parodying the white house's misleading claims about widespread waste and abuse. we know the republicans that run both chambers of congress are reluctant to challenge trump on anything. but do you have any hope they might change their tune when their constituents start to feel the effects of these cuts? >> well. >> you know, early days when there. were so. >> many executive. >> orders being issued, we. saw

that public sentiment and public. outcry does make a difference. you will recall that literally the five days after he issued an. >> executive order regarding die. >> the air force eliminated the tuskegee. >> airmen from their training. >> manual, the history of. >> the tuskegee airmen. >> and this was simply outrageous. it wasn't die. it's american history, amazing. american history and alabama. >> history for that point. >> and there was so much public outcry that they actually. >> put it. >> back. >> put it. >> put that back in. likewise, the freeze. >> the memo. >> that was issued. >> by this administration freezing. >> all funding was pushed back. and ultimately. >> that memo. >> was. you know, was. >> was taken. >> taken away. and so i think that i've advised my. >> constituents that in this time we. >> we need to. >> hear their voices now more than ever. we need to hear about the practical, real life. >> consequences of. >> what trump.

>> and. >> his administration is doing to american people. >> and when i'm talking about american people, i'm. >> talking about some of the most. vulnerable people in our society. >> it's simply. unacceptable that they're willing to cut $4 trillion from our budget. $4 trillion. why? because they want to give tax cuts for. >> the wealthy and the millionaires and billionaires like. elon musk. >> now, on thursday, the republican led budget committee approved the budget blueprint to cut taxes and spending by trillions of dollars, sending the budget resolution to the full house, where the gop majority has a razor thin margin. previous republican congresses have struggled to unite their own party around a budget, let alone when democratic support. how do you think this budget battle will play out? >> well, you know, they have 20 plus people. >> in their freedom caucus. >> that have never passed. >> a budget. >> they don't pass laws that

will raise the debt ceiling. they're simply renegades. and as you know, there's a razor. >> thin margin that the republicans have in the house. >> all we need are three. >> republicans to join with us. >> three. and so they're going to have a hard time. >> trying to figure out how they're. >> going to pass this budget. and, you know, we democrats have bailed. them out time and time again. and we've got to stop. we are. going to stop. we know that this. is a pressure point. this is an opportunity for us to. >> exert our leverage. and we. >> plan on doing just that. and so this this plan, this this budget, you know, your budget tells you everything about what you value. and it's clear to us that they don't value these critical, vital services that help our farmers, that help our children, that help. >> our elderly and our veterans. and so. >> we are going to. >> continue to hold. >> fast and push back. >> about push back. >> on any cuts. >> that may. >> occur with respect to

medicaid. >> you know, i sit. >> on the house ways and means committee. where we are. we have jurisdiction. >> over the. >> tax and over. the tariffs. and so. >> we look forward to continuing to. >> fight for the. >> american people and. holding strong against this lawlessness that the trump. administration is exerting. >> before i let you go, you have introduced a bill that would designate december 1st as a federal holiday to honor the historic arrest of rosa parks in montgomery back in 1956. the proposal comes as this new administration tries to scrub away black history. as you mentioned, they even tried to remove references to the tuskegee airmen from the air force training textbooks. what are your thoughts on trump's war on di in the midst of black history month? >> you know. >> rosa parks, on her birthday, we reissued the rosa parks day bill. >> as you said, to. >> make december 1st a national

federal holiday. and in doing so, she would be the first woman, the first black woman to ever have a holiday in her honor. and i think that the courage that she showed is, you know, showing how ordinary americans can literally change, make social change and change the world. and it needs to be acknowledged, especially this february as we celebrate the contributions of african americans. you know, we have to look at the attacks on diversity, equity and inclusion as a pushback against our history. they're trying to whitewash our history. and now more than ever, we need to stand up and stand firm. on the amazing contributions that african americans have made to this, to this nation, and no better representative than rosa parks. you know, rosa parks was the first black woman to lie in state in our nation's capital. she has a statue in our nation's

statuary hall in the capitol. and i believe that that now is the time to renew our efforts, double down on our efforts to pay tribute to historic african american contributions and significance. and so i believe that she she exemplifies that. and i also know that we're literally weeks away from the 60th anniversary of the selma to montgomery march. and i think we have a lot to learn from the past. our soldiers, our foremothers and forefathers were, you know, were technicians. they were technicians. they were strategists. and we do well to take a page from their playbook as we fight against such atrocity. >> and every year there is the reenactment of marching across the edmund pettus bridge. and i look. >> forward to welcoming you on that. >> i've been honored to go arm in arm with you many years across that bridge, remembering the price that was paid. thank

you. >> and i think that this time, more than ever, we're going to really be paying tribute to that. and i expect the 60th anniversary to be a big deal. >> thank you for being with us. congresswoman terri sewell of alabama. coming up, president trump preaches government efficiency while his administration courts corruption. my gotcha of the week is next. and before we go to break. earlier today, i was happy to see another round of israeli soldiers, israeli hostages and palestinian prisoners go free. deco chen, an american israeli who was kidnaped and held in gaza by hamas for almost 500 days, able to finally see his daughter, who was born during his captivity. we talked a few times to father jonathan here on politics nation while he was campaigning for the release of his son, and i'm happy that today they were able to hug each other. i will

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against new york city mayor eric adams. joining me now, brendan buck, former press secretary to former house speaker john boehner and paul ryan. he's also an msnbc political analyst. and michael hardaway, former communications director for congressman hakeem jeffries. now, brendan, some are comparing these justice department's resignations to richard nixon's saturday night massacre that led to the downfall of his presidency during watergate. but this is a very different president, a different congress. do you think there's anything to that comparison? >> well, look, i would imagine in the long, you know, full picture of the trump presidency, this will probably just be a blip. i can't imagine that this will be the most extraordinary thing that happens, certainly with with the doj. let's remember, this is a president in one of the first, if not the first acts of taking office was

freeing hundreds or more than a thousand people who stormed the capitol on january 6th. it's very clear that this is a person who does not have any real sense for what the word justice means, or any any respect for our system of government checks and balances and basic norms. this is not he's not going to take a political hit for this, but i think it is just another example of how he keeps creeping further and further away from the system that, you know, the way our system has been held together for hundreds of years. and look, these were not people who resigned, you know, in the first term, you had sort of these sort of performative liberals who resigned over trump coming in. these were very well credentialed conservatives who resigned because the very basic underpinnings of our system were violated here. and i think hopefully more people will will pay attention to this and keep an eye on it. but again, i can't imagine he's going to pay much of a price for it.

>> yeah. well, the lead prosecutor that resigned was a clerk for justice scalia. you can't get more conservative than that. michael, new york governor kathy hochul has found herself in the middle of this controversy. some in new york state have called on her to remove mayor adams because he appears to be beholding to the administration. i'll share my thoughts later on this tonight. i think it's a very cynical play about the president, but but governor hochul also has much to lose by going against president trump, such as the congestion pricing program, which the white house has threatened to undermine. how should she handle this moment? well it's tough. >> i'd say that as you look at new york city, it's the most important city in america, and you need a mayor who can lead. the city already has a litany of issues, from immigration to sky high prices to unaffordable housing. and you need a mayor that can focus on that. instead of having the president looming over him. and he is currently in

a situation where the president, at any time can reattach those charges to him. and so i think it's complicated for the governor because she doesn't want to come out against, you know, the city's second black mayor. however, he is in a tough position. i also should add that several people in his party have come out for him to resign, including the state senator from new york state, who is a democrat, and the lieutenant governor. and so i think the governor at some point is going to have to make a decision. and the better decision, i think, for her would be to ask for the mayor to step aside. >> you when you say state senator, are you talking about the majority leader of the state senate? stewart-cousins, brendan. the republican controlled house budget committee advanced a budget blueprint this week. it calls for up to $4.5 trillion in tax cuts and steep spending reductions for the health care programs like medicaid and medicare and food assistance benefits like snap. the budget

resolution now goes to the full house, where republicans have a very narrow majority. now, you've worked for two republican speakers. do you think speaker johnson can get this budget passed without derailing his speakership? what happens if he can't do it? are we headed for a shutdown? >> well, look, there's a lot of things going on here. the next step here, this is the. let me just say this. this is the beginning of a long journey here. and if they can get it across the floor, they still have a very long way to go from there. if they don't get this done, i don't think it's going to be mike johnson's undoing. it will probably be because moderates are uncomfortable with the level of snap benefit cuts, the level of medicaid cuts that are conceived here. and it's not those those moderates aren't going to be the one that that kicks him out. the problem that that mike johnson has, and frankly, john thune has as well, is what the house will accept. those huge cuts, very

conservative bill is probably not consistent with things that the senate is going to be willing to accept. if you're a senator, a $800 billion cut to medicaid looks very different than if you're a house member in a very red district. so there's going to be some conflict here. this is a an important first step, but i think people need to, you know, bide their time here. this is going to we're going to be here for a while as they sort this out, because there's so many conflicting views here. and as you said, such a very tiny margin. >> michael trump's cabinet is coming together with minimal resistance from the senate this week. two of his most controversial nominees, tulsi gabbard and rfk jr, cruised through confirmation. kash patel also appears to be on the verge of becoming the next fbi director. democratic lawmakers are under fire from some in their base for not doing enough to fight against this new administration thus far. do you think that's a fair criticism?

>> i think democrats are fighting as hard as they can from a legislative and a policy perspective. the reality is that there's nothing senate democrats could have done to obstruct any of these nominees from getting confirmed. that's a fact. i do think democrats should be louder and more aggressive every single day as they're telling these stories. and i also think that if there are things where they can work with the president to get to improve the lives of the american public, they should. but outside of that, they should obstruct everything as much as they can. negotiations around the debt ceiling and everything else. i do think they should fight and obstruct there. but i think that they're doing as much as they can right now. they just don't have much to deal with. >> msnbc political analyst brendan buck and democratic strategist michael hardway then. thank you both for being with us. bad faith. president trump touts himself as a champion of religious freedom, even as he lashes out against faith leaders he disagrees with. that's the

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atlantic conference. thank you both for joining us tonight. reverend rabbi, this week, both of you signed onto a lawsuit brought by nearly 30 christian and jewish groups against the trump administration's decision to allow ice to arrest migrants in churches and temples. i participated in a gathering at saint john the divine with bishop hyde around some of these issues this week. starting with you, reverend palmer, why is it so important to push back on this issue? simply put. >> reverend sharpton. it's important for us to push back on. >> this. >> issue because our understanding of what it means to. be religious. community means that we are to welcome our the stranger. we are to love our neighbors. it's to care and show hospitality for. >> anyone who enters. our

places. >> of worship. >> no matter. where they come from. >> we are obligated by scripture. time and time again to welcome people who come in our doors, no matter where they come from. so it is very important that we have sanctuaries that are able to allow anybody to enter, to worship, to be in community, to experience god together. >> rabbi jacobs, same question. >> well, reverend sharpton. it's fundamental to being a religious person that we're able to. >> do our. >> holy work. the torah, the hebrew bible. >> calls us to. >> care for not just the stranger, but to love the stranger. who is the stranger. the word in hebrew is ghere. it can also mean migrant or immigrant, and it's a fundamental obligation of what it means to be a jewish person or a christian. and so for us to be inhibited from doing what we are commanded to do would

undermine the religious liberty of not only a synagogue, but every congregation house of worship. this is something we have to push back on. and if we don't push back on this, i can imagine. >> so many other. >> things falling. >> as well. this has been. a fundamental commitment. >> it's called the. sensitive locations, whether. >> it's a hospital. >> or a school or a house of worship, we should be free to practice our faith. it says in the in the hebrew bible, over and over again moses says to pharaoh shall ami. which means, let my people go. why? >> so we. >> could worship freely. that's fundamental to what it means to be a person of jewish faith, or christian faith, or frankly, any faith. and it's for us. >> to stand up and scream about this. >> which we've done almost 30 organizations. this is a waterfront of christian and jewish groups standing together shoulder to shoulder, saying, we will not go gently. >> into. >> the good night. >> reverend president trump signed an executive order on

inauguration day, allowing his administration to deny visa requests on national security grounds, laying the groundwork for a reworked version of the muslim ban. his comments on taking over gaza has led even some muslims to who supported trump during the campaign, to speak out against him. how should the entire faith community respond to trump's targeting of muslims? >> the entire faith community. >> need to. >> respond in a manner that's consistent with our scriptural teachings and with the teachings of the torah, with the. and to say that all people are worthy of being safe. all people are worthy of being affirmed. it does not matter what faith you are part of, that it is important that people have a right to live, to worship, and to be together and to be

together in safety. the god's vision is shalom, which is not just peace, which is a conventional definition of the word. the meaning of shalom means well-being. the meaning of shalom means safety. that applies to everyone of all faiths, with no exception whatsoever. so that is something we need to push back on. anything that is excluding muslims and putting a ban on their right to be here is something we need to fight against as a religious communities. >> rabbi jacobs, president trump has also signed executive orders purportedly aimed at combating antisemitism. it is a very real problem, as you know, but much of the order is focused more on deporting foreign students who participate in pro gaza protests than on protecting the safety of american jews. right here with rising antisemitism. in your

opinion, is there a better way to confront anti-jewish hate? >> well. >> first of all, we got to name it reverend sharpton. >> and it doesn't matter if it's coming from the. >> right or the. >> left, it's making jewish life endangered. and we've got to respond. and that's the college campus. it's our. neighborhoods here in new york city. >> there are people who really are scared. >> to go to synagogue. >> on a saturday morning. >> so this is essential. >> but it has to be part of a whole way in which we talk about other people who have different faiths. we are seeing a president who demonizes. anyone who's different and who's different, everybody that he can see. so jews, blacks, lgbtq people, trans. >> people. >> there's a muslim. he just language of demonizing. it's so important for us to have the language that the genesis narrative tells us that everyone is created in god's image. no one is lesser than anyone else. and that's got to be fundamental. it's a fundamental of american law as well, and that undermines. >> the safety.

>> of jews. democracy has kept jews safe. strengthening our democracy will strengthen the safety of jews, blacks, muslims, every american. and we were watching some of those democratic norms being eroded and weakened. that will make the jewish community less safe. and i really think that there are many. things that. >> can. >> be done, should be done. but we can't actually get anywhere by just demonizing everyone in our country. >> i have worked, as both of you know, with religious leaders and faith groups from diverse traditions, all of my career. and to me, this lawsuit is a prime example of interfaith cooperation. but as faith communities get dragged further into this immigrant purge, what else can be done to foster that cooperation across different religious backgrounds? reverend, you first briefly, please. and then you, rabbi, for the last word. >> sure. well, what i believe, reverend sharpton, is that we need to do more of what we've

just been doing by following this lawsuit. and it's about the power of we. it's about the power that of people coming together. it has been shown time and time again in history that people can do far more together than they can do alone. and it's really important, especially in this climate, that faith communities come together and collaborate and work for the causes and things that we believe in. it is, i think, the strategy of this administration essentially to barrage people and cause people to feel overwhelmed and make them feel powerless. but this is a civil rights summit, and i do remember the civil rights movement, and we in the civil rights movement were able to affect change through faith, and we can do it again if we come together in meaningful ways for causes we believe are right. >> rabbi 100%. first of all, this lawsuit is the faith community standing shoulder to

shoulder. we may not agree on every aspect of theology, but boy, we understand what it means to be people who do god's work caring for the most vulnerable people in our society. when we stand together as faith communities, we send a message to america, not just the people on capitol hill, but to everyone. god created all of us, and god loves all of us. so let's actually practice that love with one another. we've got a this is a lawsuit. but frankly, there are other times we have to raise our voice and advocacy to the lawmakers. sometimes we got to just show up in our communities and stand with people who are being assaulted. this is a moment for us to be a religious community that lives. our faith doesn't just talk about it, doesn't just preach about it. but let's walk the walk. and frankly, this is about setting back the civil rights. this is a summit on civil rights. reverend sharpton, we can't go backwards. not one step back. we got to go forward and we go forward together. i think of doctor king and my predecessor, rabbi maurice eisendrath, who carried a giant torah scroll whenever they would march together. and just let's

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