>> time for the water to go down. so many of these fatalities were due to attempts to drive through water and through moving water. so folks, stay off the roads right now. flooding is still possible around many, many rivers in our state. all across, this may be a record, but portions of more than 300 state roads and federal roads are currently blocked due to flooding, slides or damage. >> yeah. alex. >> the governor saying crews are of course exhausted, but they're going to keep at it to make sure they can help as many people as possible. that declaration, of course, helping tremendously. so we'll just have to wait and see how all of this unfolds as that other round of weather. >> for sure. we'll keep an eye. thanks, george. that's going to do it for me on this edition of alex witt reports. i'll see you wednesday and thursday at 1 p.m. and of course, next saturday and sunday at 1 p.m. eastern. deadline. white house weekend is next.

>> integrity is contagious. >> those words were uttered by former u.s. >> attorney for. >> the southern district of new. >> york, david. >> kelly, at this table just a. >> couple days ago. >> on this program. >> and now the men and. >> women of the office, he. >> once led, the. legendary southern district. >> of new york are proving. >> him correct. >> one after. >> the other. after the other after. the other. >> the federal prosecutors on the front lines of an unprecedented attack on the rule. >> of law in america. >> refused to buckle. >> it was a. >> prosecutor named. >> danielle sassoon. >> she was the. interim u.s. attorney. >> handpicked by the incoming. trump administration. >> with unimpeachable. >> conservative credentials, who. according to the. >> new york times reporting, quote. resigned rather. >> than. >> obey an order. >> from a top. justice department. official to drop the.

>> corruption case against new york. >> city mayor eric adams. >> then the times continues, when. justice department officials transferred the case to the public integrity section in washington, the two men who led that unit also resigned. >> several hours. >> later. three other lawyers in that unit also resigned. 123456 resignations. and now we can add to that list another rather remarkable resignation from the times quote. hagan scotten, the lead prosecutor on the federal corruption case against mayor adams, a man who, quote, served three combat tours in iraq as a u.s. army special forces officer and earned two bronze stars who, quote, graduated from harvard law school and clerked for chief justice john roberts and later for justice brett kavanaugh, a man who has led the investigation into mr. adams since it began in the summer of 2021. today, in a spectacular and scathing letter to acting

deputy attorney general beauvais, he set a new standard for integrity and moral courage. he wrote this quote there's a tradition in public service of resigning in a last ditch effort to head off a serious mistake. some will view the mistake you are committing here, in the light of their generally negative views of the new administration. i do not share those views. quote i can even understand how a chief executive whose background is in business and politics might see the contemplated dismissal with leverage as a good, if distasteful, deal. but any assistant u.s. attorney would know that our laws and traditions do not allow using the prosecutorial power to influence other citizens, much less elected officials, in this way. if no lawyer within earshot of the president is willing to give him that advice, then i expect you will eventually find someone who is enough of a fool or enough of a coward to file

your motion. but it was never going to be me. end quote. it comes as the new york times has brand new reporting on exactly who concocted what danielle sassoon calls in her letter to attorney general pam bondi, a, quote, quid pro quo. according to the new york times, that would be none other than the acting deputy attorney general, emil beauvais, who shortly after donald trump took office, quote, called mayor eric adams lawyer, saying he wanted to talk about potentially dismissing the case. what followed was a rapid series of exchanges between adams lawyers and trump's administration. quote, the series of events in which the acting number two official at the justice department seemed to guide criminal defense lawyers toward a rationale for dropping charges against a high profile client, represents an extraordinary shattering of norms for an agency charged with enforcing the laws of the united states. quote, it also sends a

message under the trump administration, the justice department will make prosecutorial decisions based not on the merits of a case, but on purely political concerns. longtime prosecutors and defense lawyers said, quote, prompted by mr. beauvais, the mayor's lawyers refined their approach until they landed on a highly unorthodox argument. records and interviews show one that was ultimately reflected in mr. beauvais memo to prosecutors monday. that memo stated that the criminal case had unduly restricted mayor adams ability to address illegal immigration and violent crime. it also pointedly said that the decision had nothing to do with the evidence or the law. we'll let that sink in. it's where we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friends with us at the table, new york times investigative reporter and msnbc national security contributor mike schmidt is here. he is byline on that reporting we just read from. also joining us, president of the national action network, host of msnbc's politics nation, the reverend al sharpton is here

also joining us at the table, msnbc legal analyst, former s.d.n.y. criminal division deputy chief christie greenberg is here. and mimi rocca joins us. she's a former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. and she ran the s.d.n.y criminal division. mimi, i'm going to start with you, because when we came on the air yesterday, you had a real live wire into that office. and i wonder what you're hearing this afternoon. >> so what i'm hearing, nicole, is pride. from daniel sassoon on down that office. actually, believe it or not, i think the people there feel rightfully so. better now that this has happened, because as i know, we'll get to a little bit more. but as you read, as hagan scotten said in his letter, any federal prosecutor across the country knows that they could not stand up in federal in front of a federal judge and ask for

this to be dismissed. and that is what actually is so remarkable that the people here who are twisting the principles of being a federal prosecutor are not the ones in the southern district of new york or public integrity who are resigning, but the ones who are trying to literally coerce them into doing it at the head of the justice department. and so there is, i think, a great sense of relief and pride more than anything right now, not just in the southern district, but in the doj alum community. i mean, i'm hearing from people all over. and just lawyers in general saying, yes, this is what our oath is about. this is what following ethical rules is about upholding the constitution. this is most certainly, as mr. scott made clear, not about politics. >> i guess, mike, i want to ask you to take us through your reporting, because it's clear that the people leading the department don't see it that way, that it is explicitly in

letters they're putting their names to on doj letterhead. only about politics. >> correct. this is i mean, it's an important thing. you said it at the top there, but the decision. was not based on the merits of the case. it was. based on whether. >> there had. >> been political. interference from damian. >> williams or. it had. >> gotten in. >> the way. >> of the. >> mayor's ability. >> to do. his job. >> in terms of immigration and national security. >> and in. >> our. >> reporting. >> what. we found was that as soon. as trump. >> was sworn in. >> adam's lawyer sent a letter directly to the white house saying he's looking. >> for a. pretrial pardon. >> he wanted president. >> united states. >> to go in and use his powers to pardon him. >> before he went on trial, which is an extraordinary thing in. >> and of itself. >> there's a. >> period of silence. >> for a week in which adam's lawyers don't hear. >> anything back. and then the next thing they hear is from the

acting. deputy attorney general, who reaches. >> out to say, well. >> have a meeting to. >> discuss dropping. >> the case. >> there is. >> this meeting in washington in which the. >> acting deputy attorney. general says. >> says to the group that this is. >> not about the merits of this case. i'm interested in whether it's getting in the way of his. >> job. and essentially. >> in doing that, what he starts. >> doing is building the off ramp. >> for adam's lawyers. he's saying. >> to them, give me the. >> reasons why it's hard for him to. >> do his job. >> and you. >> see that in these letters. >> that go, because it's just a few days after that meeting. >> adam's his lawyer sent send a letter laying out all the ways it gets in. you know, him trying to enforce. >> immigration, national security matters for the city of new york. >> and it is. >> ultimately that rationale that is used. >> and it was this. dance in which they went. >> back and forth to get to. >> something that. that apparently the department

thought was. >> enough to rationalize this. >> now. >> the thing that we're going. >> to see here is what is the bar that they're going to need to. clear to get this dismissed? and i my sense is that the bar is not very high. the judge can. >> ask a lot of questions. >> the judge could jump up and down. you know, i defer to the legal experts on that. but the i don't think there's a ton that the judge can actually do at this point to, to stop this. is that true? >> well, i think danielle sassoon and higgins scott and both make a pretty compelling case here that there is something that the judge can do, because the judge does have to at least find this is in the public interest. and both of them are saying, no, this is pretextual. this is not at all in the public interest. and so at a minimum, i think you're going to see judge ho have a really, you know, tough inquiry for the whichever prosecutor it is that's going to get up there and have to defend this about

what these reasons are, and if they are reasons that really are about upholding the constitution or just, you know, demonstrating loyalty to donald trump. so i do think the judge ho is going to engage in that. i don't think he's just going to rubber stamp this. >> how does adams end up sort of in a group of citizens with the january 6th insurrectionists, whose side trump is taking against merrick garland's justice department? >> he doesn't end up with them. he ends up worse than them. they were pardoned, and they have videotapes of them committing crimes. he has been put in a compromised position where, with a leash around his neck and the neck of the city of new york, they don't even pardon him. if donald trump were sincere about eric adams, had in some way been violated or politically targeted, why shouldn't he pardon them like he did the hoodlums that he pardoned on january 6th? or like he's

pardoned others? he used this to say, you're going to do my immigration policy in writing. as michael said in writing, free to do his work in immigration and criminal crimes, violent crimes, which to some of us in new york spells stop and frisk all over again. not education, not daycare. there's a lot of mayors supposed to do specifically assigning him to these things. so now what i think the judge is going to have to deal with. are you now saying, your honor, that anyone that is in office should not face indictment or trial because they have to do the job of the city, because that's what they claim in this is the reason for this or that. if it's nine months before the primary, they shouldn't be indicted. what did everybody in congress, because they have to run every two years, they start a year ahead of time. i think the judge is going to have a hard time having

to deal with the rationale, because none of the rationale is based on law, it's based on politics and policy, and that's dangerous. and i don't even think it was fair to eric adams. eric adams should have said if he feels that he's innocent, give me a pardon or don't give me the back of the bus. >> but do you know why that didn't happen? and let me ask you two questions and then you can jump back in. but whose idea is it to say he can't carry out trump's enforcement policies if he's indicted? is it mr. sparrow and mr. birx, or is it mr. bobo's? >> it's sort of a mystery because the question is, in our story today, we cover what happens from the moment trump becomes president. until basically yesterday. but there's a whole part of the story that happens before that. you know, the mayor goes all the way down to florida to see trump. there's some sort of back and forth. the mayor changes his public posture towards trump. there had to be,

you know, other sorts of discussions that were going on that we don't have the full appreciation of. >> because someone. >> had to sit there and say, okay, trump doesn't want to eat this himself. he doesn't. >> want to have. >> to pardon him himself. >> so why not? >> i he didn't want to own this one. >> he owns it. i mean, we is eric adams in your reporting viewed as more toxic than enrique tarrio to trump? >> i don't know, but there was something about this that trump didn't want to go out and do because. >> he wanted like a look. >> i've seen the letters clear as day, the day. that day or so after trump takes office, this letter goes to the white house counsel saying we are seeking a pretrial pardon. and the letter reads like a screed, like a donald trump screed about the justice department leaks and the new york times and how, you know, he's been unfairly tried

in the public. it reads it reads just like trump's complaints about the justice department, it's clearly geared towards trump. if trump wanted to pardon him at that point, he could have done that. that doesn't happen. the next thing that happens is the justice department calls. now in that conversation, it's our understanding. it's let's talk about dismissing the case. let's have a meeting to talk about dismissing the case. in the meeting they say, you know, how is it getting in the way of him doing his job? now, the thing that we just need to pause here on that for a second, though, the idea that that is the way of ending a case is like, never like we're not allowed, as reporters to say, never happened before, but it's never happened before. >> well, and that made me just jump in on this. that's the i mean, david kelly sat here and agonized over whether that was corrupt because, i mean, to mike's point and to the rest point, a pardon is an absolute presidential power. and i think that's why even i think even the prosecutors said if trump wants

to pardon him, he can pardon him. but this desire to, for whatever reason, not be not be, i don't know, not pardon the mayor of new york city is something. trump is something trump doesn't want to do as a bridge too far, which is a hard sentence to even utter about donald trump. the other side of that coin is to corrupt the department of justice, and that beauvais goes along with it, and sassoon and the other prosecutors in new york and in the public integrity section don't feels like an absolute fracture. i mean, what does it mean? what is the department of justice today, if not corrupted? >> i, with all due respect to dave kelly, who is a friend and i respect a ton, i'm not going to agonize over it. the department of justice at its head is corrupted right now. what we are seeing is that the halls of the doj and the fdny, and i'm going to go out on a limb and say, i think probably almost every federal prosecutor across the country, if they have

any shred of integrity, would do exactly what miss sassoon, what mr. hagan, what the penn prosecutors did. they would not stand up in front of a federal judge and say, this case should be dismissed when it is clear as day. we have seen it now ourselves in a letter. we have seen it in letter. we've seen it in hagen's letter. we that the basis for dismissal is literally a political deal. and i don't think it's that he didn't want a pardon. adams i mean, i don't know, but i think it's that he did want leverage over adams. it reminds me, i think i said this yesterday of the mafia case. i did. you know, it's much better to have someone who you can kind of pull the puppet strings on than to have someone who just owes you a favor. >> no one goes anywhere. and to the rest point, mayor adams saying publicly today that there was no quid pro quo. and yet this morning he sat right there

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checks and balances. there's a lot being thrown. >> at the american. >> people right now, and it is really important. >> to. >> pay attention. >> to it, but. >> it is just as important to recognize how many. >> of those things. >> are. >> getting announced. but they're not happening at all, or at least not yet. just try to remember we are not looking at the final score. we are still in the first quarter. keep your pads on. the game has just begun. >> if he doesn't come through, i'll be back in your city and we won't be sitting on a couch. i'll be in his office. i'll be up his butt saying, where the hell is the agreement we came to? >> there you have it. trump borders our tom homan appearing on fox news this morning alongside new york city's mayor eric adams, seemingly confirming on the air a quid pro quo agreement as alleged by manhattan's u.s. attorney danielle sassoon in her resignation letter. using different language than danielle sassoon did, describing his

location as, quote, up his butt and quote, if he doesn't carry out the policies to your powerful declaration that the department has been corrupted. what happens next? >> that's an excellent question. look, i think first of all, we have to see what happens with this case. as christi mentioned earlier, i do not think judge ho is just going to rubber stamp this. so for pam bondi to say the case is about to be dismissed, you know, is presumptuous that the judge does not have a lot of discretion to actually deny the motion to dismiss, but there is a lot of discretion to do an inquiry and just bring even more facts to light and, frankly, to make. beauvais todd blanch, who you know, is about to take his position, or miss bondi herself to come to the southern district of new york and explain in front of a judge, perhaps under oath, you know, what, what has

transpired here? even even more than what has been reported. but to make them answer for it, because so far all they've done, frankly, is be quite cowardice and try to push this out on career prosecutors. and that's why they're having so much trouble finding someone, because career prosecutors. i mean, i know we've said this a hundred times, but you're seeing it play out in real time right before your eyes that we didn't know the politics of the people we worked with. we didn't know what party they belong to. it just wasn't an issue. it was the oath to the constitution, the oath to follow the rules, the ethical rules, and to do justice. and there is no career prosecutor who can stand up and say it is just to dismiss this case. i mean, i think we're going to have to live through this. there are a lot of people who are hoping, frankly, that todd blanch, who was a very dear friend of mine for many years in the southern district and a good

person and lots of integrity, that he would view this as the final straw and that he would say, i'm out. i, i don't think that's going to happen. i hope it does, because i think right now mr. beauvais has been the driving force. i don't think it's too late for mr. blanch. i know the southern district community would welcome him back. and the d.o.j. community. but i'm not sure he wants to be welcomed back. so i don't think that's going to happen. >> i want to make sure there is a hope that todd blanch is an incoming department official, will take a position in opposition to mr. beauvais. >> there is definitely hope. i'm not saying an expectation by any means, but those of us who knew todd cannot reconcile the person that he was, and i say was because he doesn't appear to be that person anymore. and what is happening now? and that he would not only stand by but condone

it. i mean, if you're coming into the administration now watching everything that mr. beauvais does, and in particular this to todd's old office, that he too revered and has all the same principles that you're seeing. danielle sassoon and talk about. i mean, todd is was no different from them. there was hope that he would say, you know what? i'm not going to take this position. i'm not saying it's a realistic hope, but when i tell you how many people have said, do you think maybe this is the breaking point for todd? and i used to hold out a little sliver of hope, and i don't really anymore. but i would love to be proven wrong. >> there's so much about hope and despair and there and find sort of edge of the knife that you walk when you when you see people that you worked with in government go in and service of the destruction of institutions they once held as dear as you did. it's been a constant ache

in my gut for nine years of covering the trump story. do you think that there is actually going to be a standoff at the highest levels of doj over this case, or do they view the career prosecutors as collateral damage? >> they're collateral damage. i held out no hope that todd blanche is going to buck a.g. bondi or bovey watching his confirmation hearing. he sounded very much still like he was trump's lawyer. he outlined a number of different areas where he alleged that the special counsel had engaged in misconduct for things that are as basic as going back and getting a superseding indictment for scheduling a trial date for routine discovery. he he was misleading in his characterizations. i mean, it was it was really hard to listen to. that is not you know, you're not zealously advocating for your client anymore. your client is supposed to be the american people. but that is not at all how he sounded. and he was

actually asked during his confirmation hearing about february 10th memo. the first memo, he didn't say, oh, i've got a problem with this. this is completely contrary to what i know to be the traditions of the s.d.n.y and the doj. i'm appalled. no, he actually started joking about doing an ironman marathon with his father and maybe senator grassley, like it was an insane exchange where they were kind of jovial in in a manner that is so gravely serious. so i have no hope that that he's going to see the light. the one person we're not talking about, though, that i think is really responsible here and has such a dereliction of duty as a.g. bondi because, look, bobby deserves all of the heat that he's getting for these memos. but in his second memo, he said, i acted with the authorization of a.g. bondi. and if you look at danielle sassoon's memo, which she says is, hey, i'm i'm want to talk to you. a.g. bondi, you and i have

never had a conversation. we've never met about this case. i want to talk to you. i would like you to reconsider. i would like the opportunity to appeal to you. why are we rushing this? like the trial is in april? we've got some time here. i'd like to get you up to speed and see what you think. she offered to resign. only in the event that a.g. bondi did not take her up on that offer. and by the way, standard operating procedure in the doj is that the a.g. would take that meeting. if you have a u.s. attorney and an acting deputy attorney general who disagree on such a fundamental thing, is dropping a criminal case against a sitting mayor, no less, you're going to want to weigh in and make sure you got that call right, that that you have all the facts, you have all the information. but again, it wasn't about the process. it wasn't about whether the analysis because he did no analysis. right. this wasn't based on the facts or the law. it was about giving donald trump the result that he wanted. as much as he may say, i have no

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particularly where we have the opportunity to win those fights, as has been the case in several instances, including in pushing back aggressively against the illegal funding freeze that would have halted medicaid. as we know it all across the country, the american people rose up. members of congress, members of the senate, democratic governors, and it was reversed in less than 40 hours. this administration backtracked, showing us and hopefully the country, that public sentiment does matter. and there are limits to what this administration is capable of doing. we've seen that in the courts right now. there are more than 65 different lawsuits that have been filed related to at least 25 of the unlawful executive orders, and the american people are actually winning those lawsuits, and donald trump and his administration are losing. we have to keep that up. but we also have to engage aggressively with the community, because at the end of the day, the american people will have to push back as

it relates to their tolerance for trump and republicans promising to do things to improve their quality of life, but instead doing the exact opposite. >> i mean, so you're sort of dealing with everything from the legality of musk's doge, doge, whatever we're calling it, to the price of eggs. and i guess what i'm trying to distill is how you, you know, how you direct all that. do you know, do you divide up your members? do you divide up your days? i mean, is there or are you really in triage and crisis management? >> well, i think it's all day, every day, every week, every month until we get the country through this moment. now, there's one overarching narrative, which is the republicans have essentially pulled a bait and switch. last year. they promised relentlessly that they were going to drive down the high cost of living. yeah. as their chief promise to

the american people, they now have the opportunity to do it. there's a republican president, a republican house and a republican senate. no ideas, no plans, no program to lower the high cost of living. in fact, costs aren't going down. they're going up in the united states of america. and the republicans could care less. why? because their objective actually is to pass massive tax cuts for billionaire donors and their wealthy corporations. and then third stick working class americans with the bill by slashing and burning things like medicaid to the ground. and so it's all connected at the end of the day. and we've got to break through with that narrative that ties it all together for the american people and then battle it out in these different forms in the congress, in the courts and in the community. >> democratic senator chris murphy calls it an oligarchy. do you see it that way? >> well, i mean, i think these people are trying to end america

as we know it, as it relates to our democracy, as it relates to our ability for the federal government to deliver the type of services that are designed to improve the quality of life of the american people. and i certainly think it's the case that you've got donald trump, you've got elon musk as a billionaire puppet master who is directing house republicans as to what they should or should not be doing. and so you've got house republicans who were elected to serve the american people, but they're serving elon musk. >> and what can you do about that? >> well, for instance, we're going to continue to press forward with legislative efforts in addition to the litigation. you know, we've introduced a taxpayer data protection act, for instance, which would make elon musk's activity, particularly as it relates to the department of treasury, unlawful. they're trying to use this exemption that elon musk is a special government employee

who is exempt from the ethical requirements and the financial disclosure requirements. meanwhile, he's raiding the personal data bank accounts, names, addresses, social security numbers of the american people. why does he need access to that information? it's unconscionable. it's un-american. we're going to work hard to make it unlawful as we're battling in the courts as well. >> what is the most helpful thing for the, you know, 48.6% of americans who voted for kamala harris to do right now. >> i think the most helpful thing is to communicate with their elected officials, both in terms of what they would like to see happen. that's important, that's occurring. but what's even more significant is share the personal stories as to why the things that are occurring in washington as a result of the extremism coming out of 1600 pennsylvania avenue will hurt them, hurt their families, hurt their parents, hurt their neighbors. because one of the

things i think we're going to have to more effectively do as we move forward, as we communicate with the american people, is to personalize it. >> all right? >> it's not about. >> them on the side of the bureaucracies and put the democratic party on the side. >> of the individuals. >> how do you put i mean, you look at the success that liz cheney and adam kinzinger had when welcomed in under your predecessor's leadership to work with democrats in the january 6th select committee. do you think there's a scenario where any republican is interested in hearing from danielle sassoon about what went awry at s.d.n.y? >> it's going to be interesting to see. we certainly look forward to providing any opportunity that we can for her to present her story, and the information to the american people should be a very compelling individual. i think that what we've been saying to our republican colleagues is that on any issue that the american people are concerned about, it only takes three republicans to break with the other side of the aisle, join

the 215 democrats, and we can stop them in their tracks. it only takes three. meanwhile, they're in the witness protection program as it relates to the things that are taking place. don't want to take a stand, don't want to offend elon musk. don't want to offend donald trump, but they're really offending the people that they were elected to represent. >> are you starting to see any evidence of that? i mean, do you have the campaign side evidence that in some of those tougher districts, it's hurting them? >> on the campaign side, there's a lot of activity that is taking place to hold house republicans accountable now for their failure to govern in an enlightened fashion. and that will have consequences next november. but we need we need them to do the right thing now. >> right, right. i want to ask your opinion about eric adam's ability to govern the city of new york. and if you agree with congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez, who says he's currently being coerced by donald trump. >> he's going to have to make the case to new yorkers that he

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those. the ones he promised. today, the bureau of labor statistics is reporting that contrary to donald trump's many, many, many, many, many, many, many daily promises, inflation is actually up by 3% in what was the fastest monthly increase in a year and a half. it's not over, with economists noting that president trump's new tariffs could put even more upward pressure on prices, meaning again, up. not surprisingly, the trump administration is rapidly changing the message on inflation. >> so now that president trump's. policies are starting to take. >> shape. >> how long will. >> it take to cycle through and get some of the actual prices that americans are. >> paying to come down? >> is it a year, and. >> will. >> americans have the patience to wait for it? >> i don't have a timeline. a timeline for you, silly person. joining our conversation, nbc news senior business correspondent christine romans. let's deal with what's up. take us through it. okay. >> housing. that was about.

>> a third of. >> the problem. >> is housing. >> it's called. >> shelter, the way the government. >> measures it. >> but basically. >> the tough. thing about. >> housing is. >> you can't. >> switch out where you live, like you switch out a cut of meat. you know, i can go with only a dozen eggs this month, but. or this week, but i can't switch where i live. so that's that's why i've been watching that one so carefully. fuel oil airfares. you look. at auto insurance. i mean, you take into some of these numbers. again, there are things you can't switch out of your budget. you can't every month switch car insurance companies to try to find the cheaper one. although you should be trying to find the cheapest car insurance if you can right now. so there's you can see that shelter energy up 1.1%, food up 0.4%. so this is just too hot. 3% is not the 2% the fed would like to see. >> and what is the impact of trump's sort of favorite economic tool the tariffs on all those. so almost everyone. agrees that. >> tariffs are raising prices raising costs. right. when you put a tax at the border somebody has to pay that tax. and when i talk to small business owners, sometimes some of them tell me they're not necessarily going to pass that tax on right away to

consumers because they can't. consumers are so sticker shock, have so much sticker shock. but it might mean they hire fewer people or in another way they pull back or they don't expand. so it has a dampening effect on economic growth in the very near term. you know, when i talk to economists and listen to earnings reports, the question isn't whether this will raise prices, tariffs, it's how much and when and for how long. and is it, you know very near term hit and then it tapers off after a few years. that's that's the kind of conversation the people who study this are looking at. >> what are the answers? >> the answers are of folks are telling me, for example, on a new car, maybe it adds $3,000 to the cost of a new car, but it could it could be more than that. i mean, there was an executive at an auto company this week on his conference call said, if donald trump puts these tariffs on mexico and canada that he wants to, it blows a hole in the u.s. auto industry, just blows it up. wow. that was a view from from from a domestic manufacturer. you look at housing, there was a homebuilder that said tariffs would add $5,000 by the end of this year, $5,000 to the cost of a of a new

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