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not. >> expected at the table when discussions begin tomorrow. >> what role. >> will. >> that country. >> have in deciding. >> its. postwar future? >> plus. >> those arrived at. >> the irs. >> new reporting on why elon musk's team. >> wants. access to taxpayer information. >> and later. >> deadly flooding. hits kentucky. we're live in the region. >> where the. >> threat from extreme weather. >> is not over yet. >> good morning. 10 a.m. eastern, 7 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart in for ana cabrera. we begin with breaking news overseas. secretary of. >> state marco rubio. >> arriving in. >> saudi arabia overnight ahead of this week's. >> talks with russia. >> on the. >> ukraine war talks. >> we've now learned will. >> begin in. >> riyadh tomorrow. >> we've also. >> learned the u.s. >> plans separate. >> talks with ukraine following international concern. the country had not been invited to
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discussions about its own. >> future. >> and apparently shut out of the talks. european leaders are holding an emergency summit this morning in paris. joining us from ukraine, nbc. >> news chief. >> foreign correspondent. >> richard engel. >> also with us, nbc news. >> senior national. >> security correspondent courtney qb and joel rubin. former deputy assistant secretary of state. so, richard. russia firing drones into. ukraine overnight as these talks are beginning or set to begin later tomorrow. what do we know about how these separate discussions with russia and ukraine are expected to unfold? >> so it is happening very quickly. president trump had said that he would end this war quickly, that he would quickly enter into negotiations to stop the fighting. and we know that he already had that long conversation with vladimir putin and then these these talks came quite quickly, and we didn't know exactly that they were going to take place in in saudi
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arabia. we didn't know who would be involved. it was only today that russia finally confirmed that. >> the. >> russian foreign minister, sergei. >> lavrov. >> would be attending. >> and coincidentally. >> president zelensky, ukraine's president, is in the middle east at the moment. >> on a previously. scheduled trip. he is not, however, set to. take part in the saudi arabia talks. it's going to be. senior trump administration officials, a russian delegation led by lavrov and then later. >> in the week. >> the trump administration. is expected to meet. >> with ukrainian. >> officials here. >> in. >> ukraine after these sets of negotiations that are now being held separately after these take. >> place. >> then the. >> trump administration. >> is planning to have a round of. >> joint negotiations. >> however, that no date has been set. >> as far as i know. for those joint conversations. >> it is. >> happening quickly. i spoke to a senior ukrainian official last
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night. they were. >> trying to. >> make sense of it all. they feel that president trump is. >> using his presidential power. >> to its fullest. he's using. >> his very. >> blunt style. the official confirmed to me that the trump. administration wanted ukrainian president zelensky to sign away half of this country's. rare earth mineral. reserves just to sign a document, a non-negotiable document. signing away those rights to. >> to find those minerals and. >> to own. those minerals that ukraine's. president refused to sign that. >> because there. >> wasn't enough detail, no explanation, no explicit guarantee that there would be anything coming from the. us in exchange for the mineral rights, particularly. security guarantees, which is something that ukraine wants. >> but at. >> this stage, ukraine. >> is trying. >> to get more clarity. >> and does. >> not. >> want to be cut out. >> of the process. moderator meet the press kristen welker spoke with.
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>> president zelensky over the weekend and specifically. >> asked him if ukraine feels cut out of this process at this point. >> can you accept any peace deal that is cut without ukraine? >> no. >> and do you feel like you have a seat at the table right now? >> not only count on it, i'm sure that we have to be there. otherwise it's not acceptable. but if there is a decision without us and putin will go out from all our land, we will be in nato and putin will be in the prison. so president trump can do it without us. >> richard, what's the reaction there. >> in. ukraine to. >> what's. >> going on in in riyadh? >> ukrainians are watching. >> this with. >> with mixed reactions. we were at a bunker earlier today speaking to children who are
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living in shelters. three years on, people here. in. in southern and. eastern ukraine, in frontline areas are still going to the shelters every day, sometimes sleeping in them. there are power cuts frequently in this part of the country. there are still attacks, daily attacks with drones or russian missiles. >> so ukrainians. >> want to end the war. >> and you can. >> see some of the footage right now of ukrainian children gathered. >> in a bunker. there was. a quick. valentine's day celebration. >> these children. >> that you're. >> seeing right now for the last three years have not been socializing. with each other. >> they communicate. >> online. if there happens to be any internet connection. they're going. >> back. >> home after this small party to houses. that are cold. not a lot of food, and this was one of the only opportunities. >> that they had. >> to socialize. >> so on. >> a popular level. >> people want. >> the war to end, but they. >> don't. >> want terms. >> imposed upon them. >> they don't want president
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trump and president putin cooking up some sort of deal that is not in ukraine's favor, or a deal that gives away too much territory and. >> gives no ukrainians. >> any assurances that one year, two. >> years. >> three years from now, russia won't just invade again. >> richard engel. >> thank you so very much. appreciate it. courtney, president zelensky saying ahead of these talks that ukraine's. >> future remains. >> uncertain without. continued u.s. >> support. >> what does u.s. >> support of ukraine. >> look like. >> right now? >> so over. >> the past three years, the u.s. has poured. >> about $50. >> billion worth of weapons and equipment. >> into ukraine. >> there's another. >> 20 billion that are already. committed to ukraine. but the big question is will that $20 billion worth of. >> equipment. >> much of it is, is spaced. >> out over months and even years. >> will that. >> actually make its way to ukraine? and the reality is we just aren't getting. good answers to. >> that. >> question right now. >> we are. >> awaiting what's going to happen out of these talks tomorrow in saudi arabia to see if there's some sort of an agreement. but i just spent the
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weekend in munich speaking with. >> dozens and dozens. >> of officials. >> from countries. >> all over the world, many of them. >> europe and eastern europe. and there was one consistent concern here. and that is about those security guarantees that the. >> united states and the. >> world needs to provide to. >> ukraine, if, in fact. >> there's going to be a ceasefire and then any kind of an enduring peace. united states senior officials in the trump administration. >> called those. >> security guarantees directly into question last week, starting with the defense secretary, pete hegseth, who made in. >> prepared remarks. >> to the ukraine defense contact group. on wednesday. just for perspective, the. ukrainian defense minister sitting. >> three seats away. >> from him. he said that. >> the united states. >> does not see. ukraine as a member of nato being a realistic eventuality or a realistic outcome of these discussions. jose, that. >> caused a. >> firestorm among u.s. allies, close u.s. allies who've been working to help support ukraine for these last three plus years. people are very concerned about
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what these security guarantees will really. look like. and i know that trump administrations have been defending the trump administration. officials have been defending the fact that the united states, in this preliminary discussions, whatever we want to call, is happening in saudi arabia, the u.s. meeting directly with russia, and that there would be follow along conversations with zelensky. european officials are also meeting in paris today as part of this emergency summit. the reason that they are so concerned about not being a part of these early discussions is another another theme that also came out of trump administration officials last week, and that is the need for europe to take over more of its own defenses. the reason that there has been such a groundswell of concern about these. bilateral discussions between u.s. and russia is on one hand, the trump administration is saying, europe, ukraine. you need to take over more responsibility for. >> your own security. >> but hey, at the same time, we're going to have discussions about. europe and ukraine's security without involving any
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of you. that is the disconnect that is causing so much concern. that is the disconnect that has led these european leaders to meet in paris today. while the u.s. is meeting separately with russia in saudi arabia. >> josie courtney kuby, thank you so very much. and, joel, just wondering. >> your thoughts. >> on and, you know, courtney brought up this issue of this disconnect that appears to be growing. and the fact that, you know, you've got the leaders of most western european nations meeting right now in, in paris. what's the message you think the trump administration is sending by holding these talks? >> not in europe. >> but in riyadh? >> well, you know, jose, the disconnect is real and it is intentional. what could have happened last week in munich is that the united states could have worked with our allies to develop a common position and negotiate then with vladimir putin from a position of strength alongside ukraine. but that's not what's happening. instead, cold message was sent to europe about basically you're
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you're on your own here. and now it looks like donald trump is chasing vladimir putin to come up with some agreement to then force ukraine to accept. so these are very difficult times right now for europe diplomatically to understand how to navigate forward, because the trump administration is making it clear that it does not have their back, like they've assumed for decades that united states would. >> yeah. i mean, joel, the fact that the trump. >> administration clearly considers that. the importance, impact and even just relative importance repeating. that is no. longer in paris or madrid. or even london, it's in riyadh. and the ever growing presence of. of saudi arabia. >> as a power player. >> yeah, jose you're right. loo, riyadh, saudi. it is first of
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all, mohammed bin salman was the first leader that donald trump called when he took took the oval office a few weeks ago. he's going to riyadh, obviously, because that is what he views as the center of his universe and where he wants to really build a deep relationship. but i think, again, the optics of having us, the united states, negotiating with russia in riyadh in a formal official setting. now, remember, this is at the secretary of state and foreign minister level. this is not the same as some phone calls here and there with president zelensky to kind of talk, just like he spoke with putin. these are actual, real, hard official negotiations convened by the saudis. and, you know, we europe has reason to be suspicious. there's a long history in europe of what happens when countries invade other countries, divide them up, and then there's nobody to provide security. we've seen this in the 30s. it led to world war two. that's why there is a nato to avoid these kinds of dynamics. and now it looks like
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we're laying the groundwork again to create insecurity in europe, which is very dangerous. >> yeah. >> joel, i mean, if you think maybe, maybe some diplomats may. >> be. >> rethinking. >> for example. >> the budapest agreement that was with the european nations and with ukraine, that they would remove their nuclear weapons in exchange for. >> including support of. >> the united states for defense. of ukraine. now, what is interesting, joel, is there seems to be a new dynamic in the world, and it just seems as though i'm just wondering what you think ukraine can. do to have a presence in what could be, what happens to. >> their future. >> well, we're seeing it now, for example, with the interview with president zelensky. we're seeing him put forward red lines and ideas of what he wants to see in negotiating position be. but of course, what he's going
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to have to do now is align with his european allies, and they have to look at each other and say, we're in it on our own. right now, it's ukraine, plus european countries. and he does have some tools. he has the minerals that, of course, the trump team wanted to try to capture 50% of last week. he has other rhetorical tools. he can remind donald trump that vladimir putin is not to be trusted. no matter how much you want to deal with putin, it's not really worth the paper that it's signed on, unless there's real teeth to it. but i think he's going to have to unify with the europeans and put up a common front. there will be a moment where he is challenged to accept what vladimir putin negotiates with donald trump, and that's going to be a real test, because it's quite likely that he could see his losing military aid ultimately as part of it, if he turns away from that deal. >> joel rubin, always fascinating and a learning experience to have a conversation with you, i thank you. >> thanks, jose. >> still ahead, extreme winter
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>> 16. past our breaking news in kentucky, where governor andy beshear is giving an update after a weekend of severe flooding that killed at least 11 people. the rising waters also triggered more than a thousand emergency rescues, turning homes into islands and swallowing cars. the rain also pushed a levee in tennessee to fail, sending rushing waters into neighborhoods. all is a strong series of storms spawned tornadoes in the south, and now in the northeast. there's snow and the threat is not over. nbc's kathy park is on the ground in hazard, kentucky. also with us, nbc ten boston meteorologist tevin wooten with the very latest forecast. but kathy, what are conditions like there today? >> hey, jose, good morning to you. well, parts of. >> the south kentucky included received up to. >> six inches of rain in. >> some locations. and that caused these creeks and rivers to overflow. >> behind me, you're. >> taking a.
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>> look at the north fork of the kentucky river. >> it's still rushing. >> the water level. >> is still pretty high. >> you have debris. >> scattered along. >> the banks. the governor said there were over 1000. rescues this weekend. >> folks just trapped in the. >> flood waters. >> and as you. >> can see, it's. >> starting to clear. >> up now, jose. but now snow. >> is on the way. >> this morning, parts of the south. >> were covering. >> from a weekend of wild. >> weather. violent storms sweeping. >> across kentucky, tennessee. >> and west virginia, where streams. >> and creeks surged to historic levels. >> making roads. >> impassable and causing severe. damage to homes and businesses. >> rising waters. proving too much for a levee that burst. >> in tennessee, flooding. >> entire neighborhoods. while in other parts of the. >> state. >> people and. pets had to be rescued by boat. the extreme weather also spawning. >> a. >> destructive tornado in alabama. >> we have a. >> lot. >> of damage downtown. you see behind me. roofs are blown off the most of. >> our. >> buildings in kentucky. flash flooding.
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>> stranding drivers. >> and residents across the state. first responders finding themselves. >> caught in the chaos. to this. firehouse in hazard flooded by the intense rains. >> at least nine fatalities. >> reported in kentucky, the governor saying most. >> of the tragedies. >> occurred as people tried to drive. >> through high water. including a mother and her child. >> this is one of the most serious weather events we've dealt with in in at least a decade. the biggest challenge of this event is it's everywhere. >> president trump approving. >> a disaster. >> declaration for kentucky. >> and it's. >> not over yet. >> as the state braces for powerful winds and more snow. in louisville, the wintry mess being blamed for this massive pileup. >> a blast of snow. >> also barreling across the great lakes. >> and into new england. >> where officials. >> say it may have played a role in this. >> partial building collapse. and this. >> morning. >> the extreme weather has. >> also knocked out power to hundreds of thousands of. >> customers throughout.
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>> the mid-atlantic. >> and northeast states. >> and back here. >> in the south, we're catching a. >> bit of a break. >> but then that. >> cold air and of. >> course that snow will be moving in. >> starting tomorrow. jose. >> kathy park, thank you very much, i appreciate it. it's good to see you. how are things looking right now, jose? >> it's good to see you. >> as well. well. >> right now the worst is already passed. that's certainly good news. >> however. >> we're still concerned. >> about. >> moderate to perhaps even major flooding in some spots of kentucky. >> all of. >> those. >> dots that you see, there. >> are river gauges, but the water levels are starting to go down as the rain has departed. >> as it's now off towards the. >> east, however. >> back towards the west, another storm will go from one. >> coast to the. >> other. >> and in between some. >> of those same spots that. >> just dealt with deadly flooding yesterday and today. dealing with snowfall. some 33 million americans are under those winter weather alerts. the storm starts across. >> the intermountain west. >> it exits the rockies. >> sometime tonight. tomorrow morning. >> we see. >> the storm across the nation's. >> midsection. >> across the mid south, and even across the northern. >> gulf coast states. we're dealing with. severe weather, potentially thunderstorms from
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power outages today. >> was that. >> kevin wooten? thank you so very much. appreciate it. up next, taxpayer identification numbers, retirement account information. the information sensitive information at the irs. the doge is expected to seek access to and why. and later, president trump takes his bid to overhaul the government bid to overhaul the government to the nation's highest court. when emergency strikes, first responders rely on the latest technology. that's why t-mobile created t-priority built for the 5g era. only t-priority dynamically dedicates more capacity for first responders. >> and look at the difference. >> my eyes look brighter and whiter. whiter. >> for up to. eight hours. ever feel like a spectator in your own life with chronic migraine? 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more. botox® prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine.
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elon musk's doge task force is focusing further into the federal bureaucracy, potentially handling taxpayers personal information. nbc has confirmed that doge affiliated worker could be gaining access to a highly sensitive irs system. the move comes after a weekend of attrition at multiple agencies. including hundreds of layoffs at the centers for disease control, the faa and fema. also on the agenda, an overhaul of the country's overburdened air traffic control system. and it may not just be doge. transportation secretary soliciting input from musk's spacex team. nbc news white house correspondent aaron gilchrist is in florida with the president. also with us, former aide to republican house speaker boehner and ryan brendan buck. and washington bureau chief for black press usa, april ryan. so, aaron, courts have blocked doge workers from accessing some sensitive data. treasury now at the irs that those affiliated employees seeking access to
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taxpayer data there. what's the justification from the white house from all of this? >> well, jose, as we understand it, this is an irs employee who is connected to the doge team that's been going through all of these government agencies looking for waste, fraud and abuse. as the president has told us in this case, this employee is expected to seek access to the integrated data retrieval system, as you noted. this would allow access to taxpayer ids, to retirement account information, to collections, documents, actions, collections, actions that the irs may be taking. we've been told by an administration official that this person is acting legally and has the necessary security clearances in order to access this information. it's not your standard irs employee access that you would have with this particular data system. and so the administration says this person has the appropriate clearances. when the white house was asked about this, they gave us a statement that a statement that said, in part, waste, fraud and abuse have been deeply
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entrenched in our broken system for far too long. it takes direct access to the system to identify and fix it. >> jose and aaron. one particular trump firing was blocked by the courts. it's now going to the supreme court. why is the white house picking this specific fight? >> we're talking about the person in charge of the office of special counsel. this is the ethics watchdog group, ethics watchdog agency inside the federal government. the trump administration fired hampton dellinger. he sued to get that job back, saying that he was improperly fired. a court said temporarily, yes, you can have the job back. that was appealed by the administration, a court over the weekend, the appeals court said they would not overturn that decision from the lower court. now, we expect through filings that nbc news has been able to obtain, that the white house will go to the supreme court to try to get that reinstatement overturned. this is really the first time that we're seeing any of these challenges to the white house's
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actions over the last several weeks, really getting all the way up to the supreme court. and this case, the justice department expected to argue that the court is seizing power, that is, that is assigned to the executive branch to the president, and that the supreme court should not allow the judiciary, jose, to govern. >> aaron gilchrist, thank you so very much. appreciate it. so, brennan, now, doge moves or focus, it's trying to reshape the federal government is now into the irs, not particularly one of the most popular agencies in the federal government. how is this being seen? brendan. >> well, i. >> think it comes down to whether you think the trump administration gets or doge gets the benefit. >> of the doubt. >> look. the irs is a. >> famously inefficient. >> organization, and i don't think anybody. >> has. >> ever applauded the. >> way that they operate. so certainly. >> you could argue. >> that the irs. >> is due for.
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>> some reorganization. >> and some efficiency. >> and i think that's. >> that's great. >> i do. >> think it's. >> important. >> though. >> to. >> appreciate that maybe. >> people have. >> this perception. >> that, you know, the government just. >> sort of has all these. >> master files on. >> everybody. >> and can just look. >> at. >> anybody's stuff. >> irs filings. >> are some of. >> the closely. >> most closely guarded things that we have. >> very few people have. >> access to it. so the question. >> really just comes down. >> to, for what purpose. >> is doge getting. >> involved in this? >> and this could be a whole lot. >> of nothing. >> this could. >> be legitimate trying to make it more efficient. >> or, you know. >> if we're being, you know. really concerned. one of the big concerns about this administration. >> is targeting. >> people through the. >> irs auditing people. we have no idea. >> exactly what the what the. purpose of this is. >> now, if it is what. >> they say they're looking. >> for, just efficiencies in. >> government, i. >> think. >> that's great. i think that's probably an organization. >> bureau that that needs it. >> this this whole problem with, with. >> doge is we just. >> don't have. >> a lot of. >> transparency into. >> what. >> exactly they're. >> doing or why they're doing
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it, what their. >> motives are. >> yeah. and so, april, how does this translate into these concerns that brennan is talking about into when or if we can actually see what it is that doge is or is not doing? >> well, jose, trust and believe they will let you know what they're doing in the way they want to frame it. they're not going to tell you everything. and what we do know is that this administration, this trump administration. and also the first trump administration has been a very retaliatory type. >> of. >> group when they. >> get upset with people. >> so this is sensitive. >> information that they will have to one, either make the government leaner, but. also they can if they don't like you, if they don't like what you're saying. they can use. this against you. something hanging over your head. >> this is a this is. this is unprecedented. >> this is dangerous.
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>> this is people's information. >> financial information. and what. >> will you be doing with it? we don't know. >> and the white house is. >> really. >> not slapping the hand of elon musk. he's moving forward. with this. this is a dangerous moment in this country. >> when you go to the irs. >> and you're also cutting agencies, the people and agencies. we've got how many plane accidents now? we've got. >> situations with. >> the cdc. we've got seven. >> at least seven. >> airborne illnesses. >> out there and. >> people aren't talking. >> about it. and then now you're. going into the irs. and talking about making it leaner, but you're getting people's personal information. what will be done with that? and how does that make government leaner? >> yeah. and i mean, and you're absolutely right, the republicans have for the longest time also been pointing out to what they call the politicization of the irs to go after people that, you know. so it does work both ways. but but
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i think what, you know, your point is like, let's find out exactly what it is that their information they're getting and then what they could or could not do with that. now, brennan meanwhile, unemployment has spiked in washington, d.c. it's four times higher than a year ago. the overwhelming majority of federal workers, however, live outside washington. so what happens when this starts hitting other cities? >> yeah. >> you know. >> you've. >> actually already started. >> to see senators. >> and members of. >> congress complaining a. >> little bit. >> about this and making. >> that exact point. >> you know, you. >> think you're just taking on washington. >> but the federal workforce. >> is all over. >> the place. it's one. >> of those. >> things where. >> there's sharp knives in. >> that drawer. >> be careful what you're reaching. >> for when you do this. >> look, i will say this. i'm a republican, i'm a conservative, and i think most of the country. agrees with me that perhaps the federal bureaucracy has gotten. >> too big. >> and i don't have. >> a problem with someone. >> taking a. >> closer look at whether. places that we can trim the
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government. >> i think that is. >> completely fair. and i think that's probably why you're seeing some of what. donald trump's numbers. >> be so positive is related to. where i have an issue is that. someone probably shouldn't be elon musk, that someone should be congress. and that's because as we. >> are learning. >> as what they had. >> to. >> you know. >> reinstate some people. >> they fired. >> elon musk doesn't have any real. sophisticated knowledge of. >> how our government. >> works, figuring. >> out where. >> real inefficiencies are and. >> real waste and fraud. >> is takes a lot of work. it takes. >> a lot of. >> digging into reports. >> and understanding how agencies are supposed to work. and what we're seeing is a very unsophisticated approach where. >> they're. >> just cleaving off parts of the government. >> and i. >> imagine they're going. >> to make some mistakes. >> along the way. and you're gonna have members of congress, even really conservative ones, say. >> hold on a second. >> that's not. >> what. >> i thought you meant. >> when you said. >> you were. >> you were. >> cutting into government. >> so i appreciate the spirit with which. >> they're doing things. >> i just wish they were. >> taking this a little more seriously. >> and that. >> means.
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>> going through. >> the proper congressional. >> pathways to. >> doing it. >> yeah. i mean, and meanwhile, last night, transportation secretary duffey posted this april that said members of musk's spacex team will be visiting the air traffic control system command center to get a firsthand look at the current system, learn what air traffic controllers like and dislike about their current tools, and envision how we can make a new, better, modern, and safer system. he says, april, that this is not musk's spacex x company being invited, and apparently it's something that other companies corporations have been invited to do in the past. but are there any concerns, do you think, from this? on the other hand, spacex is doing stuff that nobody else on earth is doing. >> that's true. >> but isn't there still a conflict of interest. as spacex is. >> owned by elon musk. >> who is. >> trying to make government. >> more leaner and more efficient. and also, spacex should have learned from. >> elon musk when he fired all. >> of those people. >> at the faa before that first accident over the potomac.
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shouldn't they have been advised by elon musk at that time? so it's a hurry up and wait. >> catch up. >> all of that kind of thing. but the faa is something serious. >> we've seen how many. >> air accidents. >> fatal air accidents or. accidents with planes. since this administration has been has taken over the white house. and at the end of the day, shouldn't there be another company because it's such a conflict of interest? i mean, from the optics of it, yes. elon musk, there's no one else that does what he does. but shouldn't there be another company bidding for. this contract because it's in your face? it's such a conflict of interest. >> so we'll just have. >> to see what happens. and spacex. >> may get the contract. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> if there is, if there is bidding for a contract, i mean, it may just be, hey, how can you know what suggestions do you have? i mean, it's interesting. brendan buck in april. ryan, thank you so much. really appreciate it. still to come
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moved to drop the charges against him following an internal revolt where a number of federal prosecutors resigned in the face of this planned move. and we're a top new york prosecutor questioned whether there was a quid pro quo between the trump administration and the mayor, something the president's border czar called ridiculous and the mayor denied. but this isn't the end of the mayor's troubles, as he faces political blowback, standing defiant against calls to resign. >> no matter. >> what they are saying. >> yes, we're going. >> to continue. >> to fight for you. i'm going to. continue to stand up. >> and be a child of god. >> yes. >> and i just don't understand. no. are those. >> who watch. >> the second. >> black man in the history. >> of this city? >> yes. and now. >> joining in the chorus. >> i want to bring in nbc's ryan riley and former federal prosecutor kristy greenberg, who worked at the southern district
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of new york. so, ryan, the future of the mayor is now in the hands of a of a judge. what happens next? >> yeah. and the judge is. >> going to be able to. >> look at this, this deal and decide, you know, whether this. >> is something that he would immediately. >> or they would immediately dismiss. >> you know, this is a remarkable. >> moment within the. justice department. we're talking. >> about several. >> times the number of resignations than we saw in. the in the crux of the watergate scandal, when you had the saturday night massacre. there are just an enormous number of prosecutors who decided that this. >> was their. >> line, that this was not something. >> that they. >> thought was ethical. >> and especially, you know, we had all of these individuals within the public integrity section who said that they could not they could not stand. by this. and we had those prosecutors, of course, of course, in the southern district of new york as well. you had a lot of unity going on in the justice department about this, because they this is not the way that they think the justice department should be operating and not under the codes and ethics and the traditions that they, that they, that they stand by. so this is a very, you know,
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really unusual moment, i think, in, in american history. and i think within the justice department, there's, there's just a question of whether or not this is breaking through enough to the american public. >> and so, ryan, what is it that the judge has the power to do or not do in this case? >> well. >> the judge is, you know, ultimately it's the decision. >> whether or not he. >> can dismiss this case altogether. but it's going to be a little bit difficult, i think, for the justice department to try to explain this, why it is being dismissed to the judge, and you might see a little bit of pushback from the judge there. when there's just this dismissal, we saw that in some. >> of. >> these january 6th cases in dc where judges. that was a different scenario, of course, because you had a presidential pardon, which is clearly a power that the that trump has under the constitution. but what you had there is judges pushing back on those dismissals and saying that those that they disagreed with the reasons and standing up for the truth about what those cases were all about. jose. >> ryan riley, thank you so very much. so, christie, what do we know about this judge? and what are the factors that the judge is going to be considering as he
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looks forward to decide adams's case? >> so this is a fairly new judge to the bench. judge how he his background is in civil rights. he he does not have a background as a criminal prosecutor. but he's he's very smart. he has had experience going up against the trump administration the first time. and i expect the s.d.n.y is a very collegial bench, and i expect that he is likely reaching out to other judges, more seasoned judges, with with extensive experience in, in criminal trials and reaching out to them for some guidance about how to proceed. the one thing i feel very confident of is that he will not rubber stamp this. there are serious questions when you have this many career prosecutors resigning, rather than put their name to this motion to dismiss. it begs further questions. so i expect judge ho to ask those questions to hold hearings, because
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really, there is a factual dispute at the heart of this. you have former s.d.n.y. u.s. attorney daniel sassoon saying that eric adams attorneys came in to meetings with the justice department and with her prosecutors and said, dangle, they dangled immigration enforcement in exchange for dropping the charges. that is a quid pro quo. that is plainly wrong, and it's not something that doj should be doing now. eric adams has denied that. so have his attorneys. so has amal bovey from doj. so there's a factual dispute here. and that's something the judge can hear testimony on that something the judge can get declarations from the attorneys on, and he can make a finding as to who is credible here. and basically, if the judge determines that these prosecutors are credible, then in this quid pro quo existed, then governor hochul actually can remove eric adams from office. she has the authority to do that because then he would plainly be compromised. and if
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he makes that finding, she should absolutely do that. >> you know, some of the officials that resigned were put in place by republicans, although i understand that the judge who was brought in by the biden administration. right. >> he was he was appointed by the biden administration. that's correct. >> but some of the folks that have resigned were were were brought in by by republican administrations. you know, the prosecutors that resigned, i mean, this is this is clearly a there's a bipartisan issue here going on in many ways, kristie. meanwhile, the trump administration continues to push legal boundaries on a number of fronts. i mean, the president is invoking french general napoleon over the weekend on social media, writing, quote, he who saves his country does not violate any law. what's your reaction to that? and is there a message there for officials? >> so this. >> is precisely what justice
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sotomayor, in her dissent in the supreme court's presidential immunity opinion, warned about, that a person that's charged with, as the president is taking care, that the laws be faithfully executed, can now break them with impunity. and the supreme court majority opinion said, look, dissent your your fear mongering here with these extreme hypothetical examples. this isn't going to happen. well, it is happening. we're here. you have the when donald trump is saying he who saves the country does not violate the law, that spells the death of the rule of law. so we really do need to fight to uphold the law. and that's what our officials need to do in this country. >> kristy greenberg, it's always a pleasure, i thank you. next on msnbc, 50 years of laughs. snl celebrates five decades on the celebrates five decades on the airwaves.
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