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and name calling. president donald trump calls ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky a dictator without elections, after zelensky accused him of living in a russian disinformation bubble. we're going to take you to the front lines in ukraine. plus, news from the vatican. we're going to go live to rome, where we just got an update on pope francis's condition as he's being treated for pneumonia. our nbc news reporters are following the very latest developments for us. we're going to begin with nbc's rehema ellis, who's outside the courthouse in new york city, where that hearing over the request to dismiss charges against mayor eric adams is getting underway. rehema, welcome. so what do we expect to see this afternoon? >> well, let me set the stage for you right now in terms of what we saw when mayor eric adams arrived in his car, there were those in favor of him who were standing at the top of the steps, and those who would like to see him step down, and they booed him as he got out of the car, walked up the steps, and he gave a thumbs up to those who were supporting him. he is here

now and he's going to be alongside the man who was the former on the legal team for donald trump, and that is emil beauvais. he is the acting u.s. deputy attorney general. he knows this area well. he's a former assistant u.s. attorney here in new york. and he is going before this federal judge asking that these charges against eric adams be dismissed. and the judge wants to know why? because he's asking that they be dismissed without prejudice, which means eric adams could be brought back into court on these charges at a later time. it has led to the four people who are his top deputy mayors, saying that they are planning to resign in the coming days as a result of it as well. it follows the resignation of several department of justice prosecutors, including two here in new york, southern district of new york, who were bringing these charges against eric adams. they say their objection

is they think it's somewhat of a quid pro quo, that these charges are dismissed without prejudice. in return, the mayor says that he will support president trump immigration policies, and that is something that people think should not be allowed. so they will have to answer the judge's questions about whether this is appropriate. we do not know how long this will take, nor do we know whether the judge will issue his ruling today or take information from his attorneys and then take it under advisement. but we should point out that is not unusual for the district attorney's office to file charges against someone and then at some point to decide to dismiss them. it is very unusual that it's coming the way this is coming in, that you have a sitting city official and that they would be dismissed without prejudice. and so the charges could be brought back again. alex. >> we're. >> going to listen closely to see what federal judge dale ho does in this one. thank you, my

friend outside that court for us. well, the trump administration is now once again getting involved in local policy, this time putting an end to new york city's controversial congestion pricing. nbc's garrett haake is following this at the white house for us. garrett, welcome to you. so what is the white house saying about this? >> well, alex, in a letter from transportation secretary sean duffy to new york's governor, they called this congestion pricing plan a slap in the face to working class americans and suggest the tolling system that is in place here is backwards and unfair. they say the idea that there's no way to enter midtown manhattan by car. >> that isn't affected. >> by this tolls makes it unduly burdensome to small businesses and to lower income people who might still have to drive into the city and don't have a choice to not pay these tolls like you would find on any other highway system anywhere in the country. they say they are pulling authority for this system, effective essentially immediately. now, you won't be surprised to hear there's been significant pushback from the

mta commissioner from the comptroller of new york state, arguing that this congestion pricing plan, which has been under discussion for about as long as i can remember in new york city, has been through countless environmental reviews and other reviews, with signed off on by the department of transportation under the biden administration, arguing that the trump folks can't just come in and change their mind. sean duffy addresses this in his letter, basically saying, yes, in fact, we can. alex, i suspect this is something that will probably ultimately have to be settled by the courts. but for now, the administration says this tolling system has to be shut down immediately. >> okay. well, there will be people driving into new york city that will enjoy not paying $9 at this point to get below 60th street. thank you, garrett, for that. let's go now to the president's inflammatory and false claims about the leader of ukraine, including accusations he started the war. even republicans, though, are pushing back pretty hard. >> to the extent that the. white house said that ukraine started the war. i disagree, i think

vladimir putin started the war. i also believe. through bitter experience that vladimir putin is a gangster. he's a gangster with a black heart. i don't he makes he makes jeffrey dahmer look like mother teresa. he has stalin's taste for blood. >> nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel is on the front lines in ukraine. for us, it is extraordinary to listen to a senator of the united states say he thinks that vladimir putin started the war. i mean, it's extraordinary the way he sort of soft pedal disagrees there. what about folks paying attention, i imagine, in ukraine, richard, what's being said? what's the reaction from there? >> well, people in ukraine are watching this with a lot of fear. they are watching the

potential future of their country being decided without them. they are watching this relationship between president trump and president putin. and they think that these two men are carving up this country to suit their own needs. and president putin is very pleased. if you saw him today, he made some comments as saying that so far he's happy with the negotiations and that it would be, quote, a pleasure to meet with donald using the using president trump's first name. so ukrainians are concerned president putin is apparently quite happy by the way this is going. and here in ukraine, people feel that their. the united states, their biggest ally since the since russia invaded years ago and russia did invade this country three years ago. i was here at the time and that they're being pressured both from their allies and their enemies. and it's having an impact. alex, as we were talking about in the last hour on american troops earlier today,

i'm now in the center of the city of kharkiv, which is a city that russia is still trying to take, and russia still carries out attacks here. there was an air raid siren not long ago. troops that are positioned just on the on the edges of this city, first of all, didn't understand how president trump could possibly say that they started the war when suddenly troops from russia crossed the border and started to heading toward cities like this one and kyiv, the capital, and were dropping out of helicopters trying to secure the capital and take ukrainian nuclear sites. and there were many human rights allegations. there have been numerous accusations that russian troops were involved in brutalities, including mass rape, in places like bucha. so when you tell a ukrainian that they started the war, they look at you with with shock and disbelief and a degree of horror, considering what they've been through for the last three years, and a commander of this unit that i was speaking to said that it is having an impact on morale, it is lowering morale.

and that is a very costly thing. when troops are still in the midst of a very hard fight. >> tell you, those are sentiments unfortunately shared by many of us around the world. i'm hearing that ukraine started the war. richard engel, thank you very much for the live report. the vatican says pope francis is resting and his condition remains stable as he is battling pneumonia in both lungs. it's going to bbc's claudio lavanga, who is in rome for us, where the pope is hospitalized. claudio. so i think this sounds like at least a bit of good news. give us the latest. >> hey, alex. yes. it sounds like good news. in the last hour, the vatican said that the clinical condition of the pope is now stable. and the blood tests, the latest blood tests reveal that there is a slight improvement, especially when it comes to the inflammatory markers, meaning essentially, that the treatment is working and the pope is responding well to it, to the point that the vatican said in a statement that in the morning he had breakfast

and then he went along. he went about working, doing some work with his closest collaborators in the hospital. the statement also said that he received a visit in the afternoon today by the italian prime minister, giorgia meloni, and they spent about 20 minutes together. now the prime minister also issued a statement saying that she was very happy to see or to find the pope alert and responsive. she even said that they cracked a few jokes together, and that she was happy to see that the pope even preserved his sense of humor. alex. >> okay, well, that is at least some good news, and we're all hoping for the best. thank you. claudio from rome in 90s. we'll go back to the manhattan courthouse and the legal and political future facing the political future facing the mayor of new york city. time to press rewind with... neutrogena rapid wrinkle repair. it has derm-proven retinol... ...expertly formulated... ...to target skin cell turnover... ...and fights not one—but 5 signs of aging. with visible results...

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district attorney and an msnbc legal analyst, and michael hardaway, former communications director and spokesman for congressman hakeem jeffries. okay, we'll go ladies first here. catherine, thank you for joining me, both of you. this hearing was called to address to substantiate the reasons for dropping these charges by the doj. so give me a sense of what the judge judges weighing. >> judge wants. >> to make sure. >> that there. >> wasn't a quid pro quo. >> that it wasn't. >> this. >> dismissal without prejudice. which means you can bring. >> the case back. >> it was not made in exchange. >> for adams promise that i'll do whatever you want me to do. donald trump, when it comes to immigration policy, because that would be against the public interest. barring that, judges don't really have discretion. prosecutors can choose to charge or not charge, but judges aren't, you know, potted plants. they have a duty to make sure that whatever the prosecution is doing is just and is not against the public interest. >> would it be different if it was dismissed under a different set of circumstances.

>> if the facts were. your honor, we have reviewed this case thoroughly, and we have determined that we actually cannot prove the defendant's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. and we are moving to dismiss with prejudice. but they didn't do that. the without prejudice really is the problem. >> exactly what they're doing. >> exactly. >> so you have to wonder, how are they go about proving that it isn't quid pro quo. but let me get to what? chief of staff to our new attorney general, pam bondi. this is chad mizelle. here's what he posted in a thread on x today, arguing that the legal theories underpinning the case were too expensive, and that the indictment doesn't properly allege bribery. but emile beauvais did not make these arguments in his letter to the s.d.n.y. ordering them to dismiss the case, instead alleging the prosecution was politically motivated. is there is there a grasping at justification here? well. >> now it's sort of now there's the now meaning the department of justice are probably saying, oops, maybe we should have been

more thorough and not be so obvious about what happened, because acting u.s. attorney form acting so soon, she basically made the allegation in writing. so is she making it up when she says that she believes was a quid pro quo, or is there really something here? >> so, michael, how does the outcome potentially test how much the courts can delve into government motivations, right, for prosecutions and that kind of thing? i'm curious what the political impact could be here. >> well, it upends the entire system. if you're saying to me that the courts and prosecutors go through a process, and any president can then parachute in and force them to change their decision. that is problematic, especially when it's only kind of a temporary reprieve for the mayor. he is under the thumb of the president. and i think that was made clear with that fox news interview, which was incredibly uncomfortable and looked like a hostage situation. >> well, that's one way to look at it. i haven't seen it described like that, but okay. so, katherine, we have the

acting deputy attorney general, emil beauvais. he's in court today. they didn't just send a doj prosecutor or it. what does that tell you? you know what. >> he should be because it was his memo directing miss olson to drop this case. and he's the one who signed the motion that was ultimately filed. so bravo for him for actually being there. could he be called as. >> a witness? >> well, he well, he will be asked to speak in on behalf of the government. so it's not really a hearing. and the judge is going to ask him pointed questions. and only he, quite frankly, can answer the questions. so it's good that he's the one who's appearing on behalf of doj. >> okay. michael governor hochul, as we know, met with a number of new york city leaders yesterday. she's facing growing calls to remove mayor adams from his position. what do you think the factors are that would shape her decision either way? either way. >> i think it's obviously politically insensitive. you have the second black mayor of new york city, and the visual

there may look bad, but i think. >> and that it's never been done. >> and it's never been done. >> come on. however. >> however, you do have this incredibly uncomfortable situation which is more about donald trump than it is the mayor and an ancillary way. the associated press ran a piece today showing that two thirds of people in new york city would support the governor if she chose to remove the mayor. and so i just don't know that you can keep the guy, given the position he has put himself in. >> i'm curious, michael, because mayor adams, he's supposed to give some sort of a live interview later on this evening. he's going to take questions from new yorkers about what's happening right now. what do you think his message is? what does it need to be? what does he need to say? >> this is going to be bad. there's no real way he can get in front of a crowd of intelligent new yorkers and say, despite what you've seen and despite the common sense you have, you should listen to me, that i can be my own man and i can run this city with all of his issues. because, by the way, outside of immigration, you've got sky high prices, you've got unaffordable housing, you've got

all these issues we need our mayor to address. he can't address those things. with donald trump playing the piano to his pinocchio. that is a problem. >> listen, you were the former spokesperson to congressman hakeem jeffries. how long can he stay out of this? he's been silent thus far. >> i think he's done the right thing because he didn't want to weigh in based on the decision that was going to be made today. and so i think that's why you saw him hesitate for making the decision. i don't know what he's going to do post decision, but i imagine that would free him to weigh in the way that he wants to. >> okay. michael hardaway, thank you so much. you my friend catherine christian may not go too far. we're going to have you back in just a wee bit and we'll see you again as well michael. thank you. boston's john f kennedy presidential library and museum is back open today following an abrupt closure. the jfk library foundation says the sudden dismissal of federal employees forced the museum to close yesterday afternoon. that sign you see posted on the door said that the closing was due to the executive order, with members of the kennedy family pointing the finger at elon

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>> that the voice recorder from the cockpit. and the. >> data recorder. >> have been brought into a lab for further study. and all signs seem to be pointing just towards sort of a multifactorial story here, as they're interested in, of course, what was happening with the crew and on the aircraft in the moments before. it made that very hard landing on this tarmac here. but then also, of course, the weather. still questions surrounding the 40 mile per hour winds that the pilot would have been contending with negative 2 degrees wind chill and snow very much blowing in the air. officials shared with the public that look between thursday to sunday, they were seeing the amount of more snow than they saw all of last year. take a listen to a member of canada's transportation safety board describing the investigation. >> we've already. removed the cockpit voice recorder. the flight. >> data recorder. >> and we've sent them to. >> our lab. >> for further analysis. >> at this point. >> it's far too early to say what the cause of this accident might be.

>> we also now know that only one person remains in treatment in a hospital. our team was able to confirm that of the people who have been released, one of them was a patient who was at a pediatric institution. so that, of course, has brought relief here. all people, all all of the people involved are expected to be fine. and so, you know, the real question for, for the folks involved here has been just the emotional and mental toll this has taken on all of them. part of what first responders were talking about is in addition to trying to get foam on the aircraft and just respond to the crash itself, they were talking to people who were experiencing, of course, shock and anxiety and that kind of thing. alex is going to stay with people for some time, of course. >> oh, you can imagine. anyway, antonia hylton, thank you so much. and by the way, it just looks cold there. so extra thanks for doing that live shot. >> it sure is. >> oh, yeah, i can tell. but bless you for doing it. meantime, speaking of cold, today's arctic blast storm is blasting texas with the coldest conditions the state has

experienced this year, triggering an extreme weather warning through tomorrow. and you can see roads are already snowed over in fort worth and at dallas airport. in fact, we just got this new video of crews deicing planes out on the runway where the windchills were at negative five degrees. wow. let's go to priscilla thompson, who's live for us in dallas. i mean, this is extraordinary weather. but here's what's even more extraordinary, priscilla. it comes on the anniversary of texas's deadly deep freeze back in 2021. so big picture. how are people holding up? >> yeah, that deep freeze certainly not lost on people who lived through it. but the good news is that this does feel quite a bit differently. we have already heard from the energy grid operator saying that, yes, they're expecting high demand, but they believe they are going to be able to meet that demand. and we are not seeing widespread outages like what we saw in 2021. we are seeing some of those hiccups at the airport, though. as you mentioned, there was a ground stop for a brief

time earlier today as they were working to de-ice those planes and deal with the wintry weather conditions. but the good news is, on the roads things appear to be pretty clear. traffic here is moving, and that is in part because crews were out yesterday salting the roads. they're also on standby today for any areas that might have issues. and that was because overnight there was thinking that there was thinking that there might be some sleet or potentially frozen rain that could lead to some ice on the roads. but as you can see, the cars behind me seem to be moving just fine. and so officials here are really urging people to continue to be mindful of the four p's that is people, pets, pipes and plants. so people and pets stay inside. this is not the kind of weather that you want to be outdoors for a long period of time for. make sure that your plants are covered and that your pipes are remain dripping if you can wrap them to prevent them from bursting and freezing. so those are the tips that people can kind of keep in mind to just get through all of this. and hopefully we'll be

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is the house isn't even in session, and the details of that single bill are nowhere near worked out. nbc's sahil kapur is on capitol hill for us. sam stein is the managing editor at the bulwark, and both of them are joining us now. so sawhill, vice president vance has been on the hill today meeting with senate republicans, trying to find some sort of a way forward. majority leader john thune spoke just minutes ago. what did he say? >> yeah, that's right alex, senate republicans just announced that they are staying the course and plan to move forward with a vote a rama tomorrow usually is a late session. it goes for hours or unlimited amendments. and they do plan to pass this budget plan out of the senate. this comes despite the fact that president trump, just hours ago, threw a wrench into this by instead endorsing the house plan, which does everything the senate republicans are trying to do, including more money for immigration enforcement, more military spending, changes to energy policy, the house budget does all of that, plus a whole lot more. now, senate republican leaders were caught off guard.

they were a little stunned by trump's statement earlier today. for the first is the timing. they voted just last night to begin this process. they could have probably heard from him earlier and benefited from that. the second is trump's own officials, including the border czar, tom homan, told senate republicans last week that they urgently needed money for immigration enforcement, and they still doubt the house can pass a bill anytime soon, especially with the small margins that they have. senator john thune, the majority leader, made clear that the senate is going to keep going with its bill. take a listen. >> well, i think he's. >> made it clear for a long. time that he would prefer a one big, beautiful bill, and we're fine with that too. if the house can produce one big, beautiful bill, we're we're prepared to work with them to get that across the finish line. but we believe that the president also likes optionality and the legislation that will be working and voting on tomorrow addresses, as i said, those three critical priorities.

>> now, the house budget resolution includes $4.5 trillion in tax cuts, which senate republicans believe will take a lot of time to get done. they're not going to be able to do it in a hurry in a matter of weeks or maybe months. it also includes a $4 trillion debt limit increase, and they simply doubt that house republicans with these margins, with a vote of 1 or 2 republicans to spare, will be able to do that. hence, they are moving forward. now, the other problem is how do they balance all of this with president trump's boast to reduce red ink, to even balance the budget? he has not offered a plan to do that. take a look at this chart that we made last night about what the government actually spends money on. three quarters of the federal budget is social security, medicare, medicaid, military, veterans, plus interest on the debt. you see that orange slice? about a quarter of the budget. that is everything else packed into it. head start, snap benefits, nih, cdc, air traffic controllers, nuclear weapons workers, food inspectors. this is the problem that republicans are running into. they believe, at least in the senate, that they're going to need a whole lot more time to figure this project out.

>> yeah. okay. so to you, sam, next, is this how the next four years are going to go? republicans get close to passing something and then president trump will blow it up sometimes with a post on social media. i mean, we see senator thune, they're close. let's go to the house. the house is not in session. senator thune starts saying, well, yes, i understand if they can put it together. i mean, it just it seems frenetic. >> to say the least. it's surprising he's calling it a big. >> beautiful bill. >> who could be opposed to that? >> it won't be the next four. >> years, but it definitely will. >> be the. next two years. >> and we've. >> seen this. >> happen even before trump came into office. >> remember back in december they needed. >> to. >> fund the government. the house believed it had a deal with democrats. president trump, elon musk blew it up. we thought we were going to have a government shutdown at the. >> last minute. they extended the government. >> and so on and so forth. >> and here we are once again. >> going through. >> the motions. and yeah, absolutely. right. when you have margins as narrow as you do in. >> the house.

>> this is what happens. and in. >> a functioning. >> normal productive system, you would have negotiations that actually cross party lines. but that's not what's. happening here. >> and in fact, democrats have no. >> incentives to help out republicans here because what they've. >> witnessed over the. >> past three weeks is that the funding. >> that they came. >> up with and passed has been. essentially disavowed and. >> ignored by. >> elon musk and donald trump. so why would they come to the negotiating table at all? and so the senate is going to go and it's going to do its thing. the house is going to figure out what it has to do. and this is all complicated by the fact that trump shifts around his focus and demands. and so while it all may seem like a big, beautiful bill, last night on fox news, he said he didn't want to touch medicaid. this morning, he tweets out or posts that he wants the house budget bill, which severely cuts medicaid. so it's hard to figure out where his priorities are. and that leaves house leadership on the republican side searching for answers and with very little direction. >> okay, i think buckle up is the way we all need to approach

the immediate future. gentlemen, thank you both so much. appreciate you. let's go from there now to georgia, where a woman is suing a fertility clinic after an embryo mix up. 38 year-old. christina murray alleges she became a, quote, unwitting surrogate against her will after reportedly being implanted with the wrong embryo, leading her to give birth to someone else's baby. nbc's priya sreedhar has the details. for christina. >> murray was. >> finally living her lifelong dream of being a mother. >> he was. >> beautiful and perfect, but it was also very clear. >> that. >> something was wrong. >> after a. >> grueling round of ivf. >> and nine months of pregnancy, murray, a fair. >> white woman. using a white. >> sperm donor. >> gave birth. >> in late. 2023 to a baby. >> boy with a much darker complexion. >> my son's skin. >> tone didn't match mine, but he. >> was. still my son. >> what should have. >> been a joyful first. few months? >> bonding with her. >> son, who she loved. >> and wanted to raise. >> was. >> punctuated by constant. >> fear and uncertainty.

>> i didn't know whether. >> it was. >> a sperm mix up or whether he was someone else's. >> murray took a dna test that. >> confirmed her. >> baby wasn't. >> hers. biologically. >> the clinic. >> she. >> used, coastal fertility specialists. eventually determined that they mistakenly. >> implanted another. >> couple's embryo in murray. >> the biological. >> parent sued. >> her for. >> custody. >> and murray chose. >> to give the baby she loved up to. >> them rather than fight. >> i walked out of. >> the building with an. >> empty stroller. >> and they. >> left with my son. and what was it like going home alone? probably the hardest thing i've ever done. >> mari now. >> suing the clinic, which said in a statement to nbc news that it deeply regrets the. >> error. calling it. >> an isolated event with no further patients affected. the clinic also saying it conducted an in-depth review and put additional safeguards in place. her story is rare. >> but not unprecedented. >> in the world of fertility treatment, which experts say is

largely unregulated. >> there's no reliable. >> data or. >> disclosures about how. often ivf goes unjustifiably wrong. the us regulates assisted reproduction. >> far more. >> likely than. >> other. >> developed countries. >> even after the trauma of the last year and the legal process ahead. christina, who's 38 and single, isn't giving up on her hopes of one day becoming a mother. >> i have started the process over again with another clinic, and i'm hopeful that in the next year or two, i can try again. >> all right. our thanks to priya sreedhar for that report. we're going to head back to the new york city courthouse right now. we're just moments ago, we got our first readout of that hearing underway on the justice department's efforts to drop the criminal corruption case against mayor eric adams. nbc's rehema ellis is at the courthouse for us. i know you've been poring over all these details. my takeaway at the beginning, it was fairly straightforward. to judge who was just trying to

establish competency, that mayor adams was comfortable and that he'd come here on his own free will and that sort of thing. but then it got into some details so you can take it away from there. >> yeah, i got into some details in terms of the government, meaning the department of justice asking for these charges to be dismissed. the judge wanted to know, does that mean at a later time you could return and reintroduce these charges? and emil bove said that would be at the discretion of the justice department. he goes on to ask, he says, bove says that this is a straight exercise of prosecutorial discretion. he says it's his conclusion that this case is based on the appearance of the abuse, of criminal abuse of process. and he says that one of the concerns that the justice department had is that the continuation of the prosecution against mayor adams is interfering with national security and immigration issues. you know, one of the concerns that people here in new york had

with this is that they think it was something of a quid pro quo, believing that mayor adams was getting these charges dismissed, and in return, he was going to be cooperating with the trump administration in reference to enforcement of the immigration policies. so some of that is being asked. mayor adams was also being asked, was it his understanding that he was getting something in particular in return? and mayor adams said no, that there was no promise of something in particular. so it's going on and on like that. we did point out at the very beginning when this began, the judge was saying he is going to ask some procedural questions, but no one should take any reference that that would determine how he would rule in this case. alex. >> okay. raheem ellis, thank you for the very latest on that courtroom going on. right behind you. thank you. coming up, the federal government watchdogs unleashed inspectors general who just lost their jobs, warned about the country hitting a

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personal phone and it was just swamped with text saying. >> i've been fired. how about you? >> if things move toward a scenario where you're installing, you know. >> somebody who. is partizan and devoted to one person, there is enormous potential damage in the credibility of that work. >> so is it fair to say, then, that the independence. >> might no longer exist in the inspector general system? >> i think that's what time. >> will tell whether. >> it does. certainly the indications are. given the. >> mass firings here. >> is that the administration. >> does not. >> want truly independent. >> inspectors general. >> back with us, sam stein and catherine christian. sam, to you first, because 18 inspectors general were fired on a single friday night. that happened in the first week of the administration. their entire job is to find fraud, waste and abuse. that is everything that trump and doe say they are doing. is there any sense why of the 70 inspectors general in the

federal government that these particular 18 were dismissed and whether more purges are coming? >> well, from my reporting, not really a sense. i talked with one, the inspector general of the department of interior, who was actually a trump appointee from the first trump administration, and his firing was completely random. according to him, he had no inkling that it was coming. like the others that you just showed just happened. his phone blew up. he was more or less locked out of his office and able to get his materials, unable to say goodbye to his staff, and was searching for answers as to why. keep in mind, there is laws put in place that you're supposed to give congress a heads up when it comes to whether or not you want to dismiss an inspector general. and in this case, that did not happen. now, of course, there's been speculation, perhaps, that some were overseeing departments where trump had financial stakes or elon musk had financial stakes, or trump just had bad history. for instance, in his

first administration. inspector general did, in fact push back on some of what trump was doing. but in terms of an overarching thesis about why these specific ones were fired, i have not yet covered one or uncovered one, i should say. >> so, catherine, we have eight of the inspectors general. they filed the lawsuit, and they have asked a judge to immediately reinstate them, arguing that trump broke the law. the judge did not grant that request, but he didn't kill it either. right. so i'm curious what happens next in this case, how do you see the next steps playing out? and what law would they say that donald trump broke? >> is the inspector general act. now it's interesting, as sam said, that, you know, trump did not give notice. the law says that the president should communicate in writing to congress. >> not must. >> that's right. lawyers fight every day about what's the definition of shall, the shall be, must or shall mean. maybe if you want to do it so that word

shall will is the administration is going to hang on. so he shall communicate in writing 30 days before removal. he didn't do that. was he required to do that? did that break the law? and i that's going to be the big argument. shall does not mean must. that's where it's going to turn on. >> shall anything kind of come to mind. you have eight that have filed the lawsuit. not all 18 is anything. >> they just probably don't want their names out there like the three that were there. and this could be as simple as donald trump wants his own people, period. these were the prior administrations. the one was a trump appointee. it's just that i want all of my own inspector generals. we're supposed to be independent. right. but they are appointed by the president. >> i was going to say, which reflects the last person from whom we heard who said the administration does not want truly independent inspectors is what he's alleging. so, sam, the inspector general, in that interview, they highlighted how much congress relies on them to find fraud, waste and abuse. and they urged lawmakers to step up on their behalf. take a listen to what they said.

>> i think the concept of independent, aggressive oversight. via in-house. inspector generals. >> is at a. >> tipping point. and i think. that this. should be an alarm to. >> all americans. >> but in particular, congress. and congress is the one. >> if they don't want to. see igs. >> authority and value. >> dissipate. >> they need to wake up. >> is there any appetite on capitol hill to push back on these firings? and if there isn't, what does that mean for congress's constitutional obligation to oversee the executive branch? >> sure. well, i shall try to answer this question at this point. the answer is no. there's not really appetite. and the reason we know that is that the person who has been foremost associated with the defense of inspectors general chuck grassley, the senior senator from iowa, has been relatively muted. i mean, he's critical of trump. he's saying he wants answers. but we know that he could do more. the reason we

know he could do more is that back in the first trump administration, when trump did fire or attempted to fire a number of inspectors general chuck grassley actually put a hold on confirming trump nominees until he got answers. chuck grassley has not done that during this, during this iteration. and i will note, look, it's easy at this point to roll over if you're a republican for trump. make sense? they have been compliant for this whole month. but it's not. it's also fairly easy to see a future in which this comes back to haunt them. during the obama administration, for instance, it was the inspector general of the treasury department that uncovered what he alleged to be the targeting of conservative groups by the irs. now, it's sort of a controversial topic, but that created the foundation for a lot of republican attacks on obama. it created the foundation for efforts to root out politicization of the irs. it created legislative efforts, and so on and so forth. it was all done because there was an independent inspector general there. if they want to have a

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