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get to work investigating the long list of people on his previously published enemies list and carrying out trump's retribution. and did you catch this video? former nfl punter chris kluwe arrested for anti maga disobedience in california. mr. kluwe will join me later in the show, but we begin tonight with the impact that doge led federal cuts are having on real americans. >> i think. >> we're all really rallying because we really, really, really believe in the mission of the cfpb, and it is so important to those of us who no longer. work there and those who are still there to band together and try to save what we can. >> we're not some deep state that, like, has ulterior motives. i want to go to work. i want to help veterans. >> pretty frustrated and disappointed with the whole process. it was my dream to work for the national park service. i'd love to come back and work for the national park service again. >> we did this to serve our fellow.

>> people in our regions, and to not be able to do that now is just it's heartbreaking. >> these stories are everywhere. a woman who served in the navy for 11 years terminated from the department of education. federal workers fired from the departments of veterans affairs, agriculture and transportation or the national weather service who were distraught over being terminated via an impersonal form letter for doing nothing wrong, just doing their jobs, helping the american people through scientific research or processing complaints against predatory lenders and scammers, or ensuring that our food is safe to eat. and then someone is manning the suicide hotline at the va, or safeguarding our nuclear weapons. these jobs aren't just in washington, by the way. these are your neighbors with kids, aging parents, car payments and mortgages who may not get rehired elsewhere anytime soon or ever. donald trump in three presidential campaigns and two administrations, pegged himself as the populist choice, the one looking out for real, hard working americans in opposition

to the elite. but surprise, surprise, the man of the golden toilets, who was born with $300 million in the bank, is instead listening to other billionaires. and now, of course, he's a billionaire, too. just a day ago, trump promised that he and doge would not touch medicaid. he said that during his joint appearance on fox with his favorite billionaire, his co-president, elon musk. and then today, he he endorsed a house budget that guts medicaid, blindsiding even some of his staff. and when it comes to his precious tariffs, which consumers pay for, this is his story. >> we were at our richest from 1870 to 1913. that's when we had we were a tariff country. and then they went to an income tax concept. and, you know, how did that work out? it's fine. i mean, it's okay, but it would have been very much better. >> so trump has this weird fondness for william mckinley, the 25th president lately.

mckinley was a congressman ushered through the mckinley tariff in the late 1890s, a time better known as the gilded age, which was characterized by recessions, labor unrest and dire poverty for everyone except the robber baron. super rich. now, trump is often wrong and misleading about a lot of things, but especially about history. and he's not exactly been shown to be a deep historical thinker, which should lead you to wonder who is feeding him the things that he spits out or posts on social media. i mean, republicans have long been beating the tax cut drum for decades. everyone from john boehner to paul ryan has wanted to whittle down the income tax and replace it with a consumer tax. but trump isn't listening to garden variety republicans. we know he gets a lot of ideas from right wing media, fox, newsmax, or insert whatever manosphere podcast. one of his sons suggested that he listen in to. and anyone who knows anything about trump knows that he is highly suggestible to whoever is the last person in his ear these days. that includes elon musk, of course,

and anti-immigration zealot stephen miller. those are the names you probably heard of, but there are a range of people you probably haven't heard of who may matter even more, because they're the ones who plant the seeds with the people who are in trump's ear. one of the louder voices in the maga influencer sphere is jack posobiec. semaphore found that he was by far the most influential voice, with dozens of republican strategists going into the 2024 campaign season, he is the most cited voice with more than 2 million followers on twitter and more than 1 million on truth social, according to the southern poverty law center. posobiec is a trump favorite, and most recently he has met with polish neo fascists, interviewed a pro hitler disinformation poster, and interviewed a libertarian internet commentator and alleged cult leader who amplifies scientific racism, eugenics and white supremacism to a massive

new audience. you might remember him as one of the most prolific promoters of the pizzagate conspiracy theory, which falsely accused clinton administration officials of running a child sex trafficking ring out of a d.c. pizzeria. posobiec has also used twitter to mainstream russian intelligence backed propaganda in the past, which makes his invitation and alleged travel to germany, belgium and poland with former fox weekend host and unqualified defense secretary pete hegseth even more troubling. after hegseth parroted putin talking points about ukraine, posobiec, who again is an alt right extremist who promotes anti-semitism and white nationalism, wrote a book called unhuman. in it, he and his co-writer posit that for as long as there have been beauty and truth, love and life, there have also been the ugly liars who hate and kill. and these people of anti-civilization have always gone by different names

communists, socialists, leftists, and progressives. but they really are unhuman or subhumans. jd vance endorsed un humans and praise of spanish general francisco franco, chilean dictator augusto pinochet. senator joe mccarthy and elon musk. he even provided a blurb that they used to peddle the book. and that's not the only extremist jd vance has celebrated. he also loves a guy you probably really have never heard of. curtis yarvin, a 51 year old writer who is the darling of people like peter thiel, charlie kirk and tucker carlson. why? because he wants to replace american democracy with a pseudo technocracy, saying america needs a hard reset or reboot and not political reform. >> you need. >> a ceo, and a. >> national ceo is what's called a dictator. it's the same thing. there's no difference between the ceo and dictator. if americans want to change. their

government, they're going to have to get over. >> their. >> dictator phobia. >> get over our dictator phobia. joining me now is hugo lowell, white house correspondent for the guardian, and angelo carusone, president and ceo of media matters. angelo, i'll start with you. tell us more about this curtis yarvin fellow. >> i mean, i'll. >> start with something that people will know about. and the concept of a red pill. that's his he invented. >> he came. >> up. >> with. that term. >> and it is sort of the notion in the early 2000 of sort of, you know, taking the red pill and. seeing the light, seeing the ideology that he is inspired. and when he wrote about it, he was describing exactly what. >> he, you know. >> you heard in that clip, which is a process by which we sort of shed our phobia of dictators, and we embrace the idea of a dictator. >> or a ceo. >> and he is really started to push that notion. and obviously he shied away from using the term dictator and is leaning into the concept of a ceo. but the fact is, and the reason i start there is that's only one example. >> he personally. >> may not have a ton of influence individually, right? i mean, his relationships with some of these figures are

probably overstated to a degree. but what's not overstated and what is significant is that he was like johnny appleseed of bad, crazy right wing ideas, right? he spread these things around years and years and years ago, and they have germinated. and now you have massive techno billionaires who loved his notion of techno feudalism and sort of this techno technocracy. so yeah, i can get behind this idea going out there, as you know, a guy in your 40s or 50 and still pushing ayn rand seems a little strange, right? but now you push this guy, which is basically the same concept. >> yeah. >> and it sounds. >> much. >> more authoritative. >> is it the idea that, you know, you've got this right? they want certain things like tax cuts and deregulation, but they want to have like an intellectual firmament to it. they create these, you know, sort of claremont institute sort of pseudo intellectual ism. right. and they want to put something he provides that like steve bannon, you know, he didn't create the term alt right and actual neo white supremacist created it. and then he said, i'm going to make breitbart the home of the alt right. and then they mainstreamed the idea of alt right, which literally means white nationalists. >> that's precisely it. and by putting it out there under the term of not just like something

that is not sort of wrapped in hate, which a lot of these things tend to make their way into the zeitgeist, but rather, as, you know, an interesting thought piece. yeah, right. oh, well, that's not so terrible. if he's just asking questions, he is just proposing these ideas. we should challenge ourselves to explore these concepts. and that's sort of the thing is it's sort of this veneer of thoughtfulness and intellectual ism. but what it really is, is dictatorship, extremism wrapped in, you know, sort of like, you know, serious thinking. >> it's not. and so you talk about who's who actually talks to trump because it doesn't seem like jack posobiec gets face time with trump, but his ideas obviously do. right. they get to trump or does he? i mean, like who is actually feeding trump the his ideas? >> i like to think. >> of trump world now as kind of concentric circles of relationships. >> posobiec. >> for instance, is. >> someone who has come out of. >> kind of the war room posse, the war room alumni and everyone. >> in the war room alumni. >> talks to each other. >> so that's whether it's bannon. >> posobiec, raheem. >> kassam. >> whether it's, you know, kash patel, for instance, was co-hosting bannon's war.

>> and. >> now he gets to run the fbi. >> and now he's running. >> the fbi and has. >> a direct line to trump. >> so that's one concentric circle. >> the other. >> concentric circle for instance with kind of like ukraine and russia and kind of we've seen this in recent days when trump posted. >> the truth social post that, you know, zelensky is a dictator. >> yeah, right. >> that wasn't necessarily because i think people in the oval office were like, yeah, let's do it. it was more, you know, the kind. >> of conservatives. >> who decided we don't like zelensky. and kind of this group inside the white house is like, you know, we need to hit back at ukraine aid and conservatives in the house and the freedom caucus. and they all came together and thought, what's one way we can really hit back at. zelensky in a way. >> that. >> you know, in a way that we know he won't appreciate? oh, let's take this thing that he, you know. doesn't have elections, by the way, that's only because. >> there's a war, right? you can't have elections during a war. >> precisely. and so they kind. >> of use. >> these episodes to then inform, you know, how can. >> we get back. >> at people. and so those are the kinds of people around. >> and then, of course, you.

>> have someone like elon. >> musk who. >> you know, has. >> been basically. >> talking to trump every. >> single day. >> and is thoroughly red pilled at this point. >> and he's becoming. >> savvier, actually, at the way he interacts with trump. >> i think early on in. >> the administration. he didn't know necessarily. >> like the. >> structure of the white house, how. >> it operated. >> he was running afoul, i think, of some personalities. >> he has become much. >> more disciplined in recent days. and this is kind of a new reporting is he is now starting to run things by the chief of staff. susie was much more often, much more transparently. you know, recently they were traveling back from florida and he made sure to go tell susan, hey, i'm going to go talk to the president. you know, don't come with me. and in doing so, he endears himself to. west wing aides. he's building up alliances inside the west wing so that what he is now proposing and what he, you know, feeds trump like, oh, this is what we've cut $8 billion today or whatever it is that carries more legitimacy because everyone else in the white house is like, yeah. >> they've been bought in. i mean, so cpac is today, obviously, right. you have a lot of republicans there. weirdly enough, the attorney general of the united states is at cpac, which is very strange. but it's not just that trump has been red pilled by all of these ideas,

these very far right ideas that would have been considered too far gone for the republican party. even five, ten years ago. the whole republican party has been brought into it. and somebody like a ted cruz would be a hawk, or marco rubio, who was like a russia hawk. they either have to fake it or they really believe it. >> yeah. >> and this is the part that i think is, is very disturbing because one of the things that's happened within the. republican party is that over the years, because of trump and because of his relationships to these right wing figures, these extreme right wing figures, they organized and built political power on what used to be considered the fringes. right. and when you bring those people in to the political fold and you actually build power on them, you now have to maintain that power, which is why you're, you know, one, they could be genuinely hopped up on some of these ideas. and on the other hand, people that may not be don't really have a choice. they're held captive because that is where the political center of gravity is now. and it's not that disconnected. you know what we talk about with curtis yarvin or jack posobiec, who's tied into charlie kirk now, who's deeply embedded in the administration. he's flying with the vice president. right. you know, there's a reason jd vance today at cpac talks about. so men need to be men. it's okay everybody, you should not feel bad even if you're kind of a bad guy. right. because it's okay.

that is that is he's speaking to these audiences. and that's the real thing that helps partly explain what's happening these days is that they brought these people in, and now they are continuing to serve them so they don't care about popular what popular opinion is anymore. they're speaking very specifically to a rabid, highly engaged, highly energized core that is reflective very much of what jack posobiec does every day. what curtis yarvin believes, what you see in elon musk's twitter feed, that is who they're speaking to. it's a fundamentally anti-democratic, you know, notion of how you govern. >> and the thing about it is, if you do if you're governing that way and you're locking yourself in, i mean, they're even like, we won't even allow anyone in the administration to read the new york times or the associated press. they all have to read breitbart or whatever it is they've now locked themselves in. that's all they've got. the polls show that this isn't popular broadly, but they don't seem to care about that. which leads me to think they aren't worried about elections. they aren't thinking about trying to have popular support or the public will. they don't care. >> i think that's bad. and i think, you know, who knows where

that that that. >> road goes. >> but i think you know what is. >> important to take away. >> and this is not just at the white house. >> is at the. >> justice department. there's other agencies, is everything that this. executive branch is doing has to be viewed through whether or not it's going to advance the trump administration's political agenda. and if you indulge me for a moment with the justice department, because i just think it's so acute over there. you know what? emil bove, the acting deputy attorney general is doing is recalibrating the justice department, having this. >> new practice. >> that whereby prosecutorial decisions are now going to be. based and balanced on what the trump. administration's political priorities are. you saw this with the adams case. >> it's going to play on x twitter. >> right. and kind of does this advance trump's immigration crackdown or does this advance, you know, elon musk. and doj's ability to, you know, cut government grants that have already been or contracts that have already been set out. and the reason that it's happening is because they have all bought into this idea that of the unitary executive, where where trump controls all of the executive branch agencies. and i

think there is no way you can shame. i think this is kind of what people have to grapple with. you can't shame trump or the trump administration into changing course resignations, whether it's seven resignations. yeah, they don't care. they will just go to the next person down the wrong. they will find someone to do it. and same with mlb, by the way. >> like if he wasn't. >> the one, like carrying out these directives, he will be fired and they will find. >> someone else to do it. >> and so i think the approach has to be that this is this is how the trump is going. >> yeah, i want to i have some more questions, but we'll come back. we're going to do more of this. hugo lowell, angelo carusone, thank you both very much. coming up, the senate confirms, kash patel, as we just thought about talked about as fbi director, placing someone was directly called for political retribution in charge of the nation's law enforcement. what could go wrong? >> in my eyes are dry, uncomfortable. looking for extra hydration. now there's blink neutral tears. it works differently than drops. blink neutral tears is a once daily supplement clinically proven to

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book with a so-called enemies list in the appendix. the head of the nation's premier law enforcement agency responsible for protecting the country from global threats and terrorism, and with the power to wiretap, investigate and arrest american citizens. what could possibly go wrong? joining me now is david corn, mother jones, washington bureau chief and msnbc political analyst, and george conway, conservative attorney and msnbc contributor. in the old meaning of conservative, which is completely change the name, the meaning this i feel david like some of the delay in kash patel's vote today was your fault. you have had about half a dozen different stories on kash patel. tell me of the many things that you've uncovered at mother jones about him, what alarms you the most? >> you know, i think it's his general attitude. he is highly paranoid and conspiratorial. he really believes that there is a malignant deep state that has plotted for years, and he includes bill barr as being part. >> of the. >> you know, christopher wray.

so it's not just the democrats who you would, you know, tend to think. right. but it's like everybody i mean, this guy is obsessed with this paranoia. mother jones, we've discovered that he got paid $25,000 from a pro kremlin propagandist to be in a film. he still hasn't explained the money he made from doing consulting work for qatar. he has over $1 million in interest in a chinese company that he didn't really fully explain. he did as you, as the intro noted, often promote qanon, which is about as wacky as one can be. >> and in that enemies. >> list. >> i mean, i. >> sat through his confirmation hearings where i, i think you can say he lied. he said it's not an enemies list, it's just an appendix. but if you read the book, which unfortunately i did. it says, these are the people who need to be investigated, investigated. so it is an enemies list. and you do see him going in and this and punishing people in the fbi who worked on the january 6th investigations,

they've been kicked out. it seems like he might have lied to the committee about his role in all that, too. so i don't think he's an honest person. i think he has this agenda, and i think he's driven by irrationality. >> yeah. >> david. >> david i'm sorry. >> george, you're. >> so focusing. >> on. >> the negative, i know. can we spend a few. >> minutes also. >> spend the rest of. >> the segment. >> to talk about his qualifications, please. >> and we're done with that. >> okay. >> yeah. i mean. >> moving, moving merit. >> merit. >> let me i want to ask you, george, because the thing about it is, it's funny, until he actually wiretaps a member of congress, right? i mean, you had the d.c, u.s. attorney from d.c. literally threatened chuck schumer over something he said a few years ago about how, you know, you're going to feel the wrath of the american people. he's like, oh, that sounds like a threat. anyone who says any criticism of the doge kids, he could literally have your house raided. i mean, this is the threat that republicans and democrats are now living under. >> and indeed. >> the united. states attorney. >> across, you know, down the

street is writing letters to people who criticized elon musk and saying, please explain yourself. so this is not a good development. these, you know, we have prosecutors who are basically openly threatening people with investigations. and we have a guy who's basically said that's what he you know, if he doesn't shut down the hoover building, which i guess he's not going to now that he gets to occupy it, he's going to use it to carry out. >> the most absurd moment. >> at the confirmation. >> hearing came when the democrats showed a tweet or social media post that he had amplified. they had a meme in it, and the meme was a video of him, you know, artificial ai generated of him with a chainsaw saw sawing off the heads of adam schiff, doctor fauci, liz cheney and other trump enemies. and so here's the guy going to the fbi who says that he doesn't have a partizan agenda. he put this social media post out, and when asked about it, he said.

>> well, i didn't make it. >> i didn't i didn't make it. yeah. as if. i mean, in any other era. >> yeah. >> this would have been in and of itself disqualifying. >> i mean, pam bondi during her qualification hearings assured us, i think i have the quote here. no one will be prosecuted or investigated because they are a political opponent. the partizanship the weaponization will be gone. america will have one tier of justice for all. she is now presiding over a department that, as you said, they will not investigate the people who are in this die watch list who are getting threats. she will not investigate the people who are harassing michael fanone and other d.c. and metro police officers, parents, capitol police officers. they don't care about that effectively. we have no justice department, right? there's no one to call. >> right? i mean, you, if you have reports of somebody is, say, using the fact that elon musk is running doge to get advertising for social media site that the guy happens to own. i mean, suppose that were to happen? yeah. who would you call? >> there's no one to call. >> i mean, it's title 18 has this provision about extortion.

yeah, it's enforced by the department of justice. >> yeah. and i think about things like we've never found out who placed that pipe bomb at the dnc. there's who's going to investigate that is anyone is anyone going to. >> even said they're not going to investigate? you don't have to, you know, you know, come to this, you know, you know, by deduction because they said when it comes to foreign agents registration, it's done. it's done foreign bribery. we're not going to do this. we don't care about j6 crimes. >> we care about that. >> you know. and so but just think if you're an fbi agent, there's a lot of there are thousands and thousands of fbi agents who are hardworking. you get a tip this person has some crypto scam. someone's violating sec or there's a bribe going on. first thing you do is you google that person. oh, they gave money to trump. >> oh they gave. >> you can't. >> touch it. you'd have to be crazy. yeah. >> you tell your superior. >> you're going. >> to be fired. >> you're going. >> to be fired. >> and i mean, and the reality is, i think that people the irony is, you know, the fbi has a history that is dark in some

ways of going after people like doctor king, of going after the civil rights movement. they are now the ones, essentially, who are under the tyranny of a, of an ideologue who can do to them what they've done. >> well, this is. >> an authority. >> this is an authoritarian state where the justice department and now the national police force, which is kind of what the fbi is, is under the thumb of this guy and will do his bidding. and kash patel will do trump's bidding here. and, you know, and the whole thing, they go on about weaponization. we see with ed martin the case you just brought up, we see with kash patel's enemies list, that's what they want to do. they keep talking about going back and investigating people who are political enemies. and of course, trump has been talking about that for years. >> there is a story that talks about how scared some members of the united states senate and congress are to vote against donald trump's nominees, that people will vote in ways that they ideologically don't want to because they're afraid of, to be frank, being hurt or harmed or killed by trump's supporters.

and let's not forget, donald trump released 1500 people, some of whom were very violent and violent felonies that they committed on january 6th. essentially, donald trump has put the entire republican party under heel, right? there is no opposition. >> we saw it not that very long after january 6th, when people like lindsey graham were accosted at airports because lindsey graham had said something like that. he was done after january. >> he got right back on board. >> right. and, you know, i remember liz cheney was campaigning out in wyoming. she had to have her own her campaign had to pay for security, even in small venues. yeah. for her. >> remember what mitt romney said? >> yes he did. >> that's right. paying $5,000 a day for the security for him and his family. and those other members hear that. they hear that. >> and if any of these people are threatened again, or if president biden is donald trump had their security clearances and they have no one to call, there is no federal 911. it's a chilling thought and people should take it seriously. david corn, thank you, my friends. much appreciate it. coming up

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equipped for work of great consequence and to the disappointment of my critics, i'm still here on the job. >> yeah, well, not for much longer. mitch mcconnell says he will not run for reelection as the senior senator from kentucky next year, ending in kentucky next year, ending his four decades in the senate. it's not soon enough for the man almost singularly responsible for the rot of our current politics, the former senate republican leader who said the single most important thing he wanted to achieve was for president barack obama to be a one term president. having failed at that, he stole a supreme court seat from obama and democrats in 2016 by refusing to hold a hearing on merrick garland's nomination. in a sense, setting up president biden to choose the ever cautious mr. garland as our attorney general, rather than someone who might actually have been more aggressive in pursuing the crimes of donald trump and his insurrectionist mob. and yet

the same mitch mcconnell said this after the january 6th attack on the capitol. >> there's no question, none, that president trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. >> mitch mcconnell said that right after he voted to acquit donald trump of inciting the attack. fast forward three years to 2024, and he endorsed trump for a second term. mcconnell's is a senate tenure that, in my humble opinion, will live in shame and infamy. joining me now is msnbc political analyst claire mccaskill, who served with mcconnell in the senate for 12 years. and to paraphrase mitch mcconnell, claire, i would argue that mitch mcconnell is singularly and morally responsible for everything donald trump has done and will do in his presidency. i feel quite negatively about him, but i want to let you, as a former senator, weigh in.

>> listen, there's no question. >> that mitch. >> mcconnell should have an asterisk by his name when it is reported in history books that. >> he was the. >> longest serving leader of the united states senate, and that asterisk can. >> be for several things. >> but first among them is his. refusal at a key moment to lead his party. against donald trump. >> and. >> what donald trump did on january 6th. >> he he whiffed. so did mccarthy. >> and by. >> the. >> way. >> it would. >> have turned out. >> differently had. >> the leaders. >> of the republican party. >> stood up. then donald. >> trump wasn't leaving office with a great deal of popularity. donald trump. >> wasn't. >> you know, in the middle of a campaign for the presidency again. donald trump was at a moment. where they could have vanquished him, and we would have had just won four years of donald trump. >> we had to. >> put up with. there's other stuff he should be known for to

joy. >> that i don't think we should forget. >> he single handedly, probably. >> even more. >> so than protecting. donald trump, made sure. >> that we do not. >> have campaign finance reform in america. he did anything he had to do to stop any efforts to ever bring sunshine into the process of buying elections by big corporations behind the curtain. he's very proud of that. and, of course, stacking the supreme court. yeah, protecting trump, stacking the supreme court and making sure that we had a lot of dirty money in politics. those are the three main things that mitch mcconnell is responsible for. >> and he had not one but two bites at the apple. mitch mcconnell claims to have all of this moral outrage over what's happening to ukraine and to be a russia hawk, bs. the first impeachment was for donald trump trying to strong arm the exact same guy that he's now calling a dictator, vladimir zelensky.

that was that was his first bite at the apple. he refused to allow that to. he could have whipped that vote any way because, you know, he had total control over his caucus. so he failed twice to let the 14th amendment rid his party. and i think about claire. i'm not a you know, i'm not a fan of ronald reagan. but in that era, they didn't let the john birch society take the party. this man was willing to let maga and the tea party consume his party at all costs for his own ambition. i find that wicked to the point where i have no better word for it than wickedness. >> yeah. the western alliance of democracies has been wholly responsible for peace and prosperity for 80 years, for the united states of america and other people who love to control their own government. i'm talking about the people who get to vote. not people like kim jong un and xi and putin. and now mcconnell is saying, oh, i'm going to assert myself on foreign policy in the time i have left. i am freed from the

shackles of having to lead the party. i can now really focus on what matters to me. well, where is the press conference? where was the press conference? where he gathered other republicans that know that putin is the one who invaded ukraine. ukraine didn't start any war. ukraine is the victim here, not the perpetrator. where was mitch mcconnell's press conference with his other fellow republican senators, calling out what donald trump had done? once again, he is hiding behind the desk and worried about the future of his party, more than he's worried about the future of his country. >> and he voted against. i suppose he wants credit for having voted three times against some of trump's nominees. i believe he voted against robert f kennedy jr. he is a polio survivor himself. that makes sense. he directed against tulsi gabbard and he voted against pete hegseth. so what? he voted for kash patel today, and he did not whip or try to use his influence. and he's left a weakling as his successor in

john thune. who cares that he voted against those three? i don't. >> i time. time will tell how weak john thune is actually going to be. i think it's too early to judge that. obviously he's bending the knee to trump right now, but so are people like lisa murkowski and susan collins, which just surprises me and disappoints me in many ways. yeah, mitch mcconnell could could have whipped votes on this, and mitch mcconnell could have gotten out in front at the very beginning when these people were nominated and said, absolutely not. this is not going to happen. he still has influence in the senate. and the fact that he was willing to be quiet and just do a lonely vote of no tells you all you need to know about whether or not he's really willing to stand up for the stuff he believes in. >> and i'll note that in the louisville courier journal reporting that minutes after mcconnell made his announcement, daniel cameron, the man who failed breonna taylor and declared her shooting to be not a crime, and the only crime being a bullet left in the wall of one white neighbor being the only crime that is probably the

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stands for firing the people overseeing our. nuclear arsenal. >> maga stands. >> for firing military veterans and those serving them at the va. including canceling research on veteran suicide. >> maga stands for cutting funds to. >> education, including. >> for disabled children. >> maga is profoundly. >> corrupt, unmistakably anti-democracy. >> and most importantly. maga is. >> explicitly a. >> nazi movement. you may. >> have replaced a. >> swastika with a red hat. >> but that is what it is. >> i will. >> now engage. >> in the time honored american tradition of peaceful. >> civil disobedience. >> get the heck! >> get out! >> that was chris kluwe, the former punter for the minnesota vikings, at a city council meeting tuesday evening in huntington beach. basically, the florida of california. he was arrested for protesting the council's decision to replace a plaque commemorating the public library's anniversary with, of

all things, a plaque including the words magical, alluring, galvanizing, adventurous, a nod to maga. and it's not the first time that he's been outspoken and on the right side of history, with kluwe saying that he was fired by his nfl team in 2014 after he started speaking out in support of same sex marriage. and chris kluwe joins me now. thank you so much for being here, chris. when i saw your clip sort of scrolling through my instagram, i immediately thought, i want to talk to that guy. please tell me the origins of your protest. how did you plan it? did you plan it in advance? and how did that all play out? >> yeah. >> so here in huntington beach, we've. >> been having. >> issues with our. >> city council. >> for about. two and. >> a half years. >> now in regards to the library. i've been to multiple. >> city council meetings to. speak out against what they're trying. >> to. >> do. >> to. >> the library. >> and the problem is, is that. >> our city council does not care about the huntington beach

community. they care about themselves. >> they care. >> about accumulating. >> their own power. >> and. >> they care about. >> national attention. >> because they. >> hope it can put them in trump's orbit. >> and we've seen. >> that very recently with our city. >> attorney, michael gates. >> recently. >> he left his job in order. >> to take a job in trump's administration. >> and it's what all of. >> them are. >> angling for. >> they want. >> this attention. >> they want people looking at them because they want power. >> they don't. >> want to help people. >> and frankly, i'm tired of it. >> i know. >> a lot of. >> people in the city are tired of it, but. >> you know, we. need to do something about it. >> it feels really trolling. it's clearly a troll to do that. in regards to the library, right to take the plaque and make it maga. and the library has become, you know, an unfortunately very political place in terms of book bans, in terms of trying to limit what people can read. is that something that's happening there, or is it just the plaque? >> yeah. no. >> so this is. >> what. >> actually started. >> the whole library. >> issue is that. >> one of. >> our council members. gracie vandermark, wanted to ban books in the children's.

>> section of. >> the library, and they were primarily. >> lgbtq oriented books. >> and she. she is. >> one of the council. >> members that is. >> desperately seeking attention. and it's. >> really. >> unfortunate that. >> they keep trying to politicize our. >> library, because a library. >> is supposed to be an apolitical place. it's supposed to be some place where everyone can come. everyone is welcome. everyone can check out a book and read because books are amazing books. books are the gateway to the imagination. and i love books like, i've been a. huge reader. my whole life. and so that's why. >> i get. >> so incensed when i see these people continuously trying to. mess with the library. when the community has made it clear, keep your hands off of the library. >> yeah, and by the way, having grown up in the library, always in the library with my mom, you are speaking my language. i love a library, but, i mean, the other thing that you notice when you listen to your protest is not just your strong words about maga and calling it a nazi movement, but the way that the people cheered for you once you began the actual protest, part of what you were doing, you had the crowd. do you get the sense that what these city council

members are doing, it has the popular sentiment, or are they doing it in your view, against the majority of the public will? >> they're clearly. >> doing it. >> against. the majority of the public will. >> because i. >> was at the previous library commission meeting the week before, and 90% of the people there, over 90% spoke out against the plaque. and that commission rubber stamped it, sent it to the council. when i showed up to the city council meeting, i knew they were going to approve it seven zero. they weren't going to debate it. they weren't going to talk about it. they were just going to do what they wanted to do because. because that's who they are. and that's and that's why this is a microcosm of what's going on on the national scene, is that's what trump does. that's what maga does. they don't care about building community. they don't care about lifting people up. all they care about is accumulating power and using it. and in my mind, that is one of the most unamerican things you can do, as clearly illustrated by the white house official account posting a picture of donald trump in a crown. and i'm sorry, but that is absolutely

disgusting. and we founded our country on the idea of no kings, no tyrants. blood was shed, people were killed because we as american citizens said no, no kings. and i think regardless of your political affiliation, regardless of who you think should be in charge, if you want to be america, you have to say, no kings. >> yeah, i you know, i'm struck by the fact that i told my team when we did our show me today that, you know, chris cooley has always been that guy, right? you've been an ally to the lgbt community for a long time. you know, you said you risked your, you know, your nfl player, you know, and you go you you stood for the rights of lgbtq folks back then. you're doing it now. what do you make of this fixation that the right and that maga has, particularly on trans people? because it definitely is a fixation. >> it's well. >> i mean, it's. >> disgusting and it's straight out of the nazi playbook. the

first people the nazis went after were the trans community because they thought they would be an easy target, and they could get people to go along with it. and for the for maga, they tried going after gay people. they're going to continue trying to go after gay people, but they're going to use trans people as the wedge to do it. and we've seen this playbook before. they're using the exact same playbook that they use to try to outlaw same sex marriage. and so it's up to us to recognize that playbook and to say, no, we're not we're not going to allow you to do that. we're not going to allow you to hurt innocent people who have done nothing wrong, and who just want to be free to live their lives. >> what has been the reaction to your protest besides overwhelmingly positive. >> yeah. yeah. right, right. it's overwhelmingly positive on i'm on blue sky, which is a great place. i highly recommend blue sky. it's fantastic. i'm sure on nazi twitter they really don't like me, but it's the nazi site, so i don't really care. but yeah, if you. >> if you will follow me on blue sky, i will follow you. how about that? i'll follow. we'll do a follow back. >> oh, sure. >> absolutely. yeah. no, i'll do it right after. right after i

log off. so. but yeah. no, >> it's good. >> oh, yeah. i was going to. >> say it's. >> been really positively overwhelming. like lots of people reaching out to me saying thank you for standing up. like, thank you for doing something. and i want to say one of the reasons i did this protest was also in the hopes that our democratic officials would pay attention and do it as well. i'm not going to ask someone to do something i'm not willing to do myself. but guess what? i just did it. >> you go. you did. you did a good dude. chris kluwe, thank you so much. really appreciate your time. thank you. and up next, in addition to me getting a follow back from chris kluwe himself, i'm going to have another moment of joy from one of my absolute favorite actors. of my absolute favorite actors. and that's right after asthma. does it have you missing out on what you love with who you love? it's time to get back out there with fasenra. fasenra is an add-on treatment for eosinophilic asthma that is taken once every 8 weeks and can also be taken conveniently at home. fasenra helps prevent asthma attacks. most patients did not have an attack in the first year.

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