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angry constituents. plus, ukraine's president, under pressure from the white house to second look at president trump's proposed deal handling over half of the us ally's mineral rights. what zelensky wants in return. and disturbing discoveries after the remains of october 7th. hostages return home. fresh heartbreak creating new obstacles as the already fragile ceasefire barely holds on. good day. it is noon on the east coast, 9 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz balart. thousands more government workers will be laid off after a federal judge on thursday denied a bid by unions to stop the firings, clearing the way for president trump and elon musk to continue shrinking the federal government. the plan includes cuts of up to 4500 workers at the department of housing and urban development.
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more than 200 layoffs at tsa and more than 6000 at the irs. right in the middle of tax season. now, yesterday at a conservative conference outside washington, elon musk said he's going to push ahead with more cuts and wielded what the area called a chainsaw for bureaucracy. >> waste is. >> pretty much everywhere. >> people ask, like, how. >> can you find. >> waste in like in dc? >> i'm like, look, it's like being in a room, you know? and there's. >> the wall. >> the roofs and the. >> floor are. >> all targets. so it's like you can close your eyes and go shoot in. >> any direction. >> you can't miss. >> by the way, that chainsaw that you see there was a gift from the gentleman that you see holding it. the president of argentina, javier millet, who used that chainsaw in his campaign for the presidency as a symbol of his push to cut the size of government in argentina. but there is major blowback to the cuts from some voters here at home, including at a town
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hall in georgia with republican congressman rich mccormick. >> will you. >> make sure. >> hungry kids get fed and five year. >> olds aren't picking berries? >> or are you going to? >> i take education very seriously. >> i think i can. >> be transformative. >> i think lunches. >> why is this being jammed down the pipe so rushed and sloppily so. >> you. >> understand. >> is when you say you have this many employees that you have to cut, that organization decides who they're going to cut, that they may. >> make. >> no. >> it's clear. >> from all the writings of our founding fathers that our great. >> republic was. >> never meant. >> to. >> be ruled by a dictator, nor a king who. >> and, you know, today. more cuts could be in the works for
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the us postal service. the washington post, citing six people familiar with the plans, is reporting that president trump is expected to take control of the usps and fire its board. joining me now in the sea news chief white house correspondent peter alexander, reuters white house correspondent jeff mason, former democratic senator doug jones, former republican congressman from florida david jolly and catherine christian, former assistant manhattan district attorney. so, peter, you questioned the white house press secretary earlier today about those cuts. what did that look like? >> yeah, i had an extended. >> back and forth with karine leavitt, of course, the press secretary here, where i asked her about some of the. >> words we have heard. >> from those constituents at town halls in traditionally red districts around the country, including those that you played. moments ago. and by and large, she blamed. >> the media. >> for. >> amplifying, as she described it, a few critics. >> in her words. >> when she says the. >> overwhelming number of americans. >> right now. support exactly what. president trump is doing, she says that the president is simply. >> delivering on. >> the promises that he has made so far. then i followed up by asking. >> her specifically. >> about the claims that the
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administration has found tens. of billions of dollars of fraud, waste and abuse. of course, waste. everybody can have their own opinion about what is wasteful spending or useful spending. >> but. >> fraud is a crime. and i pressed her on that specifically. here's part of that exchange. >> fraud, of course, is a crime. so have you turned over evidence of fraud to the justice department? and when should we expect to see those indictments? >> it's a clever question. there has been extensive fraud, particularly if you look at social security. in fact, according to an ig report from the social security administration, there were $71 billion worth of fraud in one single fiscal year that we know about. >> to be clear. >> that $71. billion was. >> from 2015. >> to 2022. >> so it wasn't in. >> just one year. so everyone agrees that $71.8 billion is. >> a lot of money. it was. >> over. >> the course of eight years. >> it was. >> in the. >> form of overpayments. >> and over the course of the last several days, we've heard from karine, caroline leavitt saying in part that the administration suspects that tens. of millions of americans,
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dead people, she. >> said, are fraudulently receiving. >> social security payments right now. but we looked at that same ig. >> report that. >> she noted in that back and forth i had with her. right now, they say that there are according to that ig audit, there are 18.9 million americans listed as 100 years. >> or older. >> in the. social security administration's. >> rolls. >> but they are not necessarily dead in that database. but notably, it says almost. none of that. 18.9 million americans above 100 years. >> old is receiving. >> social security payments. and were they they say that would not be fraud. it would simply be wasteful spending and needs to be cut back. they say only 89,000 americans over the age of 89 right now receive social security payments. jose. >> and so, david, just your thoughts as a former member of the house, when we see that town hall where people essentially ask and directly confront the
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congressman, their congressperson, i'm just wondering, do you think this is something that could have continuing deepening of this kind of, i guess, backlash? you know, something like, you know, what happened in 2010 or in other places? >> sure. >> i would say first, as a former member, i would. >> say, where. >> is the congress right now? i mean, the power of the purse originates, frankly, with the house of representatives. and the budget. that was written and passed and signed into law was approved. all of this spending that donald trump and elon musk are now saying, no, we're not going to do it. so first of all, congress has collapsed. and as a former member, that's that's pretty sad to see. but secondly, the raw politics of this, yes, the cuts will be to services in the communities that members of congress represent. they will be employees. there will be economies affected. if you think about our national park economy and in certain locations, if you think about access to healthcare and to and to housing, local economies, real people will be
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impacted by this. but the last thing i think of is just how foolish this really is politically for donald trump and elon musk, about 1.7% of the. entire federal budget is federal employees. so let's say they're cutting half of that. they're not maybe ten, 20%. you're at less than one half of 1% of a fiscal impact, and yet you're causing chaos or reduction in services anxiety, fear, layoffs, higher unemployment in certain communities. you're doing all this for really no impact. >> on the debt. >> and the deficit. and that is where i think this is a pretty foolish move to step out of the gate in the first month and say, this is what we're going to do. we're going to scare the american people, but get nothing in return for it. >> yeah, david. and yet the other side may tell you, well, you know, by inaction, nothing ever has changed. republicans or democrats who have over the years talked about the need to, you know, tighten the federal government, make it smaller, etc, and nothing really happens.
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is it that inaction is better than this? >> yeah. >> maybe inaction is also a lack of conviction. i mean, right now republicans control everything. they have about three weeks left to right, an annual budget if they're willing to absorb the political capital and hits from this, they can actually sign their names to it and pass it an actual federal budget that says these are now the real numbers, but it is a lack of conviction on capitol hill. they can speak to the need to cut spending. but to your point, jose, they never really do. but again, going after the federal employee workforce is not a way to actually cut spending. what they have to do is to go after medicare, medicaid, social security and frankly, interest on the debt is another big component. well, they have the conviction to do that. maybe. so we are hearing that on the hill. but pay attention america, because that's going to hit a lot harder and a lot worse than cuts to the federal workforce. >> yeah. and, doug, i mean, the new washington post poll, ipsos
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shows that 57% say the president has exceeded his authority on elon musk, 49% disapprove, 34% approve of his handling of the job so far. what do you see in these numbers? >> well, i see the beginning of. the end of what's happening with doge. i think. >> that the more. >> these cuts take place. >> the more. >> images you see the. juvenile kind of. >> images of someone. >> like elon musk. strutting around a stage with a chainsaw, proud of what he's doing to the federal workforce. proud of what he's doing with these cuts. i think that that really takes its toll on the american public. this is not what they bargained for. and i think people want. >> to see fraud, waste and abuse taken away. >> but that takes. >> some time. that is not just slash and burn. >> it is. >> not taking a chainsaw to the workforce. and as these cuts hit home to the american public like they're beginning. >> to do, i think. >> you see.
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>> it in that poll. you see it in the town hall films that. >> you showed. >> a few moments ago. when these start to take hold and people realize that all politics today is personal and it is going to affect them and their communities directly, you're going to see the continued slip in these numbers not only for elon musk, but for donald trump. >> yeah. and catherine, meanwhile, a federal judge yesterday said the cuts can continue. there are 73 cases legally challenging trump's different executive orders on these issues. won't that take a long time to make it through the courts? >> it definitely will. and yesterday the judge the judge didn't say the lawsuit was wrong. the judge just said, i don't have jurisdiction. administrative law 101. you should have went to the federal labor relations authority, which are administrative law judges. those judges will hear this dispute. >> if you. >> lose, then you can appeal to the circuit court of appeals. so the judge just said, i don't have jurisdiction, but interestingly enough, made a
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point of, i'll say, criticizing. he said there was an onslaught of executive actions that have caused chaos in the country, so that the judge slipped that in. so, yes, these lawsuits are going to take time because when one side loses, they, of course are going to appeal. and it can be argued that maybe the trump administration is hoping that one of those appeals for an issue that they really care about will land at the supreme court, and they will get five votes to uphold what they're doing. >> yeah. i mean, jeff, jeff, meanwhile, the senate passed a $340 billion budget blueprint yesterday. that doesn't include everything the president wanted. the situation in the house is kind of complicated right now, right? >> yeah. >> i'm smiling because that's a that's a nice way of describing it, jose. >> yes, i think. >> it is complicated. and that's one reason why. >> the. >> senate passed. >> what they did. there's skepticism. >> on the. senate side that the house.
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>> republicans majority. >> which is. >> such a slim. >> majority in that in that. >> part of the congress for. >> the republicans. >> will be able to. >> get through the big, beautiful. >> bill that. >> president trump wants. >> and so the senate passed. a something else as an. >> alternative or a. >> backup plan. >> that. doesn't include the. >> tax cuts that president. >> trump wants. >> although the senate. >> leaders. >> republican leaders. >> have said they're. >> you know. >> if the house. >> does succeed, that they're willing to work with them. that's going to be some drama that will be interesting to. >> watch in. >> the coming days. as president trump is. >> criticizing lindsey graham, who's normally a. >> pretty close ally. >> for his role. >> in the senate. >> bill and really wanting. >> the house bill to move forward. >> yeah. and, jeff, i mean, that house bill moving forward depends on so many almost. and, you know, back to david or doug's point that all politics eventually do become local. there are so many different aspects when you have such a
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tight majority in the house. it's like, doesn't seem like there's any progress on that. >> yeah. >> very hard. i mean. >> it's. >> obviously the speaker. >> speaker johnson. >> is. >> a very close ally. >> of president trump. he was in mar a lago the other weekend when i was on the trip. >> with him. and the. >> president spoke. >> to republicans. >> there and. encouraged them. >> and it's certainly. >> a big priority for the speaker. but that does not. >> change the math. and the math. is such that it will be very difficult. >> to get. >> everyone on board because. some of those some of those cuts that you're just. >> referring to, i mean. >> some of these. >> impacts or the impacts of these of this agenda. >> will have. >> will have an impact. you use that word. >> again. >> not only in blue states, but in red states and. >> from from republicans. >> who will be. >> who president trump. >> wants. >> to vote for this agenda. >> peter. and right now, the white house, at the white house, the president is meeting with a bipartisan group of governors. what do we know about that?
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>> yeah. >> that's exactly right. >> president trump behind closed doors right now, meeting with republicans and democrats, governors from around the country as part of a. governor's working session here. we're getting some notes from our colleagues that. >> are in the room. >> right now. among those in attendance, notably new york's democratic governor, kathy hochul, that had sort of a fierce back and forth about president trump after the white house posted a picture showing the president as a king when the president said, long live the king. following up his effort to kill congestion pricing in hochuls home state of new york, the. president began. >> his. >> remarks by saying it was a good and friendly group of a nice and friendly, in his. >> words, a group. of governors in the room. >> he said that they were all. >> doing a. >> good job. >> he did also talk interestingly. >> about the situation between russia and ukraine right now, saying he has had good talks with the russians, not so good talks. with the ukrainians right now. and he said there are people that need to get back to the negotiating table. if you'll indulge me, your friend jeff mason, who is joining this panel, and i are college
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classmates from our freshman year 30 years ago. so i'm sure somewhere our folks are smiling. that tuition was well spent. the two j school kids showed up on your show that many years later. >> thank you. >> that. >> wow, that's. >> a great bit to end this conversation on. thank you. peter, jeff, doug, david, catherine, all of you. thanks for being with us this friday. coming up, how those federal cuts are impacting safety at our national parks, putting plans for the summer tourist season in jeopardy. coming up, but first, why ukraine's president is reconsidering president trump's proposed mineral deal. to the white house initially gave him only an hour to sign it. we're only an hour to sign it. we're back in just 90s. (sigh) (snoring)
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treasury secretary all the way out to kyiv to propose it. and then we get this rhetoric in the media. look, here's the bottom line. president zelensky is going to sign that deal. in his nightly address, zelensky said in exchange, he wants security guarantees from the us that would ensure long term protection from russia. this is russia continues to pound ukraine with more airstrikes, killing at least seven people overnight in the donetsk region. joining now from kharkiv, ukraine, is nbc's chief foreign correspondent, richard engel. richard, is this national security adviser comment that zelensky is going about to sign this agreement with the united states? is that seem like it's possible? >> it does seem like it's possible. we don't know exactly what the deal is going to say, but the ukrainians are indicating that they are flexible to signing some sort of deal. they want an investment
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deal. when you listen to what president zelensky said last night, he said that security agreements and economic agreements must go hand in hand. so certainly he's not rejecting it outright. and i've been speaking to senior ukrainian officials and they've been saying and listening what president zelensky has been saying. and their main issue wasn't signing a mineral deal with the united states. the issue was that they were being forced to sign it under duress. as you mentioned, they were given an hour to agree to the document, according to an official in zelensky's office. they were told if they didn't sign it on the spot, president trump would be angry, suggesting that there would be consequences, that the agreement was vague and it didn't spell out explicitly what kind of security guarantees would be involved. and for ukraine, that's essential because ukraine is now entering into these negotiations that president trump is spearheading, and these negotiations could reshape the borders of this country and
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potentially either set it up for stability and set up stability in europe, or set it up to be permanently weakened and see russia invade again in a few years, which would be a disaster. obviously, for ukraine, it would be a disaster for europe. so for ukraine, its very future is on the line. and what's most important to it is that there are some sort of security guarantees. that's why president zelensky keeps talking about nato. for him, the best security guarantee that they can find would be to be a member of the world's most powerful military alliance. the trump administration has already signaled that it changed its opinion on it publicly, but it has signaled quite clearly that it doesn't believe nato is on the cards. and zelensky himself has said, okay, if nato is on the cards, what else is there? what else can we have? maybe eu membership, but that's mostly an economic and political agreement. how about some troops? could there be an international peacekeeping force here? could there be weapons here? could there be an iron dome military system like israel
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has? what kind of security guarantees can they have in order not to see russia invade again, and this country set up for a future invasion? so that's what they're looking for, and they are willing to pay for it. so it does seem likely that they will sign some sort of agreement. i don't know if it's tonight, tomorrow and the next few days, but it seems like after this, this very rough patch, that they might sign something and they've expressed their concerns to the trump administration. president trump doubled down and showed that that he's willing to push selenski around. and now we will see if we get to some sort of result. but yes, it's to make a long story short, i do think waltz is probably right that he will eventually sign. >> you know, richard, i'm just thinking of the total lack of support and solidarity with the people of ukraine over the decades, right? the, you know, the budapest memorandum of 1994,
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when the uk and the us agreed that if the nuclear weapons were taken out of ukraine, that there would be some protection for, for ukraine going forward. let's not forget the annexation of crimea, crimea in 2014 and the inaction of the united states and others. it's just when you see the inaction and the lack of solidarity towards ukraine forever from the united states and others. boy, you got to be, as a ukrainian, be wondering, well, what kind of guarantees could i get going forward? >> you're 100% right. the ukrainians are very skeptical. skeptical of any kind of written guarantee, and they are skeptical of president trump's intentions because president trump has blamed them for starting the war and just said recently that he thinks vladimir putin is willing to negotiate ukraine's future in good faith. intelligence agencies around the
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world, and i've spoken to several of them, do not believe that vladimir putin is acting in good faith. do not believe that he intends to give up his aspirations to take over, or at the very least, hobble ukraine. that that remains his long term goal. and yes, they have seen time and time again security guarantees that have meant very little. you mentioned the budapest memorandum fundamental to this entire conversation. so when ukraine was formed as the soviet union was collapsing, soviet union collapsed 1990, 1991, and this whole series of new states were born in eastern europe and central asia, and ukraine was one of them, and had once been a province of the soviet union, a long abused province by moscow with including mass starvations. but when this, this, this province suddenly became an independent country, it gave up its nuclear weapons. and there was a security agreement that the united states was a party to saying, we guarantee, in exchange for giving up these
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dangerous weapons, that you will not be invaded by russia. and it was invaded by russia. it was invaded by russia first in 2014 when russia took crimea, which it then backed up with a with a referendum. and now it plans to take several provinces in the east and the south, potentially with with president trump's support. so what they want is not just a written guarantee, some sort of document. they want weapons, they want weapons systems, they want security guarantees that actually make this country harder to invade. >> and richard, just how does do the people in ukraine react and feel when they hear the president of the united states, who just right now told governors at the white house that he's had a good series of talks with putin, not so good talks with ukraine, adding they don't have any cards. it's just
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how do people react to something like that? >> well, people feel that president trump and vladimir putin are allies of sort, ideological, ideological allies, at the very least, and that president trump has never liked this country. and you have to go back. you remember the first relationship that president trump had with with president zelensky, president zelensky, and this is during his first term, had just been elected to the to the president as president of ukraine. even then, there was a low level war going on between ukraine and russia. and then there was that famous phone call, which president trump still calls the perfect call, in which which raised so many concerns that he ultimately the call was leaked and he ultimately was impeached. but in that call, it was president trump demanding, demanding something for money that he would. president trump would hold up security assistance to this country unless he got at
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the time, it was information on burisma and the biden family, hunter biden in particular. so that kind of relationship, give us something, give me something that i want. otherwise we will hold up. money that you need to protect against russia is the relationship that they have seen from president trump during his first term, and it's the same relationship that many see right now. and frankly, it is also being seen in europe where people believe that that that president trump is, is trying to extort an ally and is trying to demand payment from a country that is not in a position to say no. >> richard engel, it is always a treat to speak with you, my dear friend, and the fact that we're able to talk about the budapest memorandum or the crimea annexation or holodomor, i just thank you, man. you're it's always a treat to speak with you. appreciate it. >> wow. >> pleasure is mine. >> thanks. coming up. outrage is growing in israel over how the
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were just four years old and barely nine months old when they were captured, were brutally murdered, not killed in an airstrike, as previously reported by hamas. just yesterday, their bodies were returned to israel, along with what was supposed to be and believed to be, the remains of their mother. joining us now, nbc news correspondent hala gorani in tel aviv. so, hala. those weren't, according to these israelis, the remains of the mother. how is this all playing out in israel? >> well, it's playing out very badly, as you can imagine. these two kids, these two redheaded kids had become kind of the symbols of the hostage crisis across this country. there were big billboards featuring their photos. the children were the youngest hostages. their bodies were returned on thursday. but as you mentioned, the body that was returned, that was meant the coffin that was meant to contain the remains of shiri was in fact contained the body, it appears, of a gazan woman. the prime
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minister, benjamin netanyahu, of this country, in a in sort of a typical response, said that he would seek revenge for hamas's actions. hamas has said for months now that these children and their mother were killed in an israeli airstrike, and the reason that the wrong body was sent back was because there was an error and, quote, overlap in the sort of remains that they were able to collect to send back the fourth body of oded. he was one of the oldest hostages, 84 years old. and his we understand his funeral will take place on tuesday. he was one of the founders of the kibbutz nir oz, where he was taken from, and someone who volunteered, actually in a humanitarian organization driving palestinians to israeli hospitals. so and the six live hostages, as we've been discussing, will be set free tomorrow. jose. >> hala gorani in tel aviv,
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thank you so very much. i appreciate it. and joining me now is the international spokesperson for the israeli defense forces, lieutenant colonel nadav shoshani. colonel, thank you very much for being with us today. you say that you actually were able to confirm that those two little children were not killed in an israeli airstrike. what did you confirm and how did you get to that confirmation? >> good evening. >> and thanks for having me. absolutely. what we. what has. >> happened in the last. >> 24 hours is as. >> we receive those. >> four caskets. that were supposed to be for. israeli hostages. >> deceased hostages. >> we took. them into. >> an examination. >> a forensic. >> examination that this. >> is protocol. but also. >> something. we do because. >> we. >> know who we're. >> dealing with. >> we know hamas. >> is a. >> terror organization. >> that lies. >> that manipulates. >> and so we sent. >> them for forensic. examination and the forensic examination. >> we first. >> of all found.
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>> oded. >> notified his family. >> we found. >> and ariel, a nine month year. old baby and a four. >> year old child. >> and what we. >> saw in the. >> forensic investigation. >> and i want. to respect the family. >> and not go. >> into too many. >> detail of it. but what. >> we found is. >> they were murdered. >> in captivity. >> they were. >> brutally murdered. >> cold handed. >> brutal. >> cold handed. >> murdered by by terrorists. >> towards these. young people. >> in. >> november 23rd. >> and obviously, we know hamas. >> and it's. >> not. >> the. first time, but hamas. >> has. >> been trying. >> to create this narrative that people that. >> are hostages. >> being. >> killed are being. >> killed by. >> israeli air strikes. >> we know that's. not the. >> case in this case. >> we know. >> a different case in. >> rafah. >> where six israeli. >> hostages were. >> murdered. >> cold. >> bloodedly as well. but in. >> this case, it's much worse. >> they they killed them with their bare. >> hands and. >> they lied about it. >> and they. >> tried. to cover.
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>> it with. >> cover up. >> with horrific acts. and then when it was time to return them in. >> this deal. they lied again. >> and put someone. >> else. >> that is not their. mother to return. >> to israel. >> and i. can't imagine. >> the pain that. >> you'll then. >> be was. >> the father. >> of this family is. >> is. >> suffering. >> in these days. >> yeah. i have and you know, there's so many gruesome issues to this that i also want to always obviously respect, you know, the family members that are just going through this horrendous reality over and over and over again. this is a little a little child that was, you know, not about to be nine months old, four year old child and their mother that were taken during the hamas massacre of israel on the 7th of october, when 1200 men, women and children were killed. and i'm just wondering, where are these remains held in gaza? how is it
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that they have the i don't even know how to describe it, but to return to promote what they've done and what they're doing as they as they exchange the remains. there's a whole public relations campaign going on. i'm just wondering, are you confident that what you're saying is, in fact, the truth? >> 100%. >> and first. of all. >> it's a great question. >> you asked. >> these people, these. these four people were taken alive. >> on. >> october 7th. they were. >> killed in gaza. >> they were murdered. >> but this is this is how. >> hamas acts. they look at human lives as a bargaining chip. and they. >> kept think about this. >> imagine this. >> it's hard to. >> imagine i have a. >> baby the same age. they kidnaped a baby. they murdered. >> it. >> they lied about it. and they. kept its body.
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>> for over. >> a year as. >> a bargaining chip. >> and let. >> me tell. >> you. >> you. >> know, we've. >> had intelligence. what i'm telling you is. >> not just based. >> on forensic. >> it is heavily. >> based. >> on forensic and experts. >> and doctors looking. >> into this. >> but we've also had intelligence. >> on this. obviously, we've been gathering information since the since. >> day one of this. >> war. >> and we were. >> able to. >> cross-reference very. >> significant intelligence with very clear evidence. >> very clear. >> forensic evidence. >> which makes us. >> very. >> sure, you know, we did not speak up when hamas was lying. and manipulating. >> and telling. >> those stories. >> about an aerial attack. >> we didn't speak. >> up because we speak up. >> when we. >> know for sure. >> and in this case, there is no. doubt we. >> understand hamas. >> well, terrorists in. >> gaza murdered. >> kfir and ariel. murdered a nine month year old baby and a four. >> year old. >> child. >> and. >> kept their bodies. >> as. >> a bargaining chip for over. >> a year. >> and so we have we're expecting to see six more hostages released tomorrow. who are they and what are you all
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doing about? i don't know, logistics? >> well, first of all. >> before that, we expect to see us. >> we expect. >> to see. >> her returning. >> that's part. >> of the agreement. hamas violated the agreement, and we expect. >> to see her back. >> and we are also. >> expecting tomorrow. >> to receive six. more hostages, live hostages. >> who were also kidnaped on october 7th. and this is an operation. >> you know, on. >> the. >> one hand. >> idf is. >> ready to. >> operate and. >> has been operating in. >> gaza to. >> fight this terror organization. >> on the other hand, we are also operating to. >> facilitate this. >> this agreement. we have. three different. >> entrances or. >> exits for the. >> hostages to come through. >> we have. >> three different points. >> where there's. >> initial health care, initial caregivers. we have our. >> troops deployed in different. >> points ready to receive. >> those. >> hostages from the red. >> cross. and afterwards taken. >> to a hospital. >> with a. >> helicopter to.
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>> get some treatment. >> and more. and have some check. >> up on their health situation. but we're ready tomorrow and we're we're. >> expecting to. >> see six live. >> hostages, and. >> we're also expecting to see us. >> so this is part of the agreement. >> we're very adamant on. this that. >> hamas needs. >> to hold their. >> part of the agreement. this is not a one sided agreement. >> and if hamas doesn't. >> hold. >> hamas has to hold their part of the agreement. if not, this agreement can't can't exist. >> moving forward. >> colonel, thank you very much for being with us today. appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me. >> good night. >> coming up as its workforce is cut, the national park service is struggling to keep up with demand. the chaos already crippling some of the most revered national sites in our country. next. >> you. >> you're making everything orange. >> we're showing we're consumer. cellular gets great coverage. >> we use. >> the same towers as big wireless, so you get the same coverage. wow. for unlimited talk and text with reliable
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