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com or just stop by granger for the ones who get it done. >> thanks for spending time with us. i have one of our final questions for you to end the week. do you think that donald trump is now using the very free speech crackdowns and pc style language policing that he wants to cry? you can tell me on social media where better to discuss our speech at ari melber on any of those platforms? that's at ari melber. that's the question raised by that smart writer we had earlier tonight who talked about the rise of the so-called woke. right. have a great weekend. that's our time. the reidout with joy reid starts now. hi, joy. >> how are you doing, ari? i love answering your questions, but i'm not going to answer it
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this time because i feel like people kind of can guess what my answer is. i feel like if there's no suspense in my answer, so i'm just going to leave it. i'll leave it to your your your friends, your fans. >> i'll think about it. >> but i have a thought. think about it. noodle on it, noodle on it over the weekend and i'll see you on monday. >> have a good one. >> cheers. >> thank you. you too. all right. and thank you all for joining us tonight. we have so much to get to in the next hour of the reidout, including elmer stewart, rhodes and tarrio returning to the scene of the crime. donald trump pardoned them for. but it wasn't long before tarrio was placed back in handcuffs. plus a shakeup at ice as trump's deportation plan runs into many obstacles. but the white house is succeeding in weaponizing deportations and demonizing immigrants, which has already had deadly consequences. but we begin tonight with the people who are really running the country right now. and no, i'm not talking about donald trump. i'm talking about this guy, elon musk, who yesterday made an appearance at the conservative political action conference, aka cpac, where he
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rambled incoherently and waved around a chainsaw while wearing sunglasses indoors. that weird guy has control of our government because he bought it. getting donald trump in the bargain. and today we are getting a frightening new look at just how much control that means. in a new article for the atlantic, one employee and senior leadership at usaid describes doj's level of access to their systems as god mode, writing that they now have full, unrestricted access to the agency's digital infrastructure, including total control over systems that americans working in conflict zones rely on the ability to see and manipulate financial systems that have historically awarded tens of billions of dollars, and perhaps much more. and with that level of unfettered access at usaid, it raises the question of who or what is stopping musk and doge from doing the same thing at
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every government agency that they're infiltrating? and what could that mean for the american people? the atlantic writes at nasa, for example, it could mean access to knowledge about sensitive government technologies used for defense. at the cdc. such ability could expose millions of americans health data and allow doge to access labs that store deadly pathogens at treasury. such access could allow musk's employees to view americans names, social security numbers and financial information. and if that's not concerning enough, the wall street journal is reporting that the message coming from leadership at the elon owned social media site x twitter is this get your clients to spend more on our platform, or else they write that leaders at an advertising conglomerate interpreted the communications from x as reminders that their recently announced $13 billion merger deal could be torpedoed,
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or at least slowed down by the trump administration, given musk's powerful role in the federal government. some of the people said that guy is essentially running the show, all for his personal financial benefit, while trump gets to sit in the oval office or hang out on the golf course, living out his revenge fantasies via the justice department, dragging the secret service to sporting events and pretending he can rename international bodies of water. but musk isn't doing it alone, which is something even trump acknowledged. today. >> elon is doing a really good job, and i said, who are these people that travel you? we call them the dodgers. and i said, what are they? he said, they're generally young people with extremely high iqs who who are very good with computers, because you have to be good with computers. >> young people with extremely high views are really good with computers, which i guess sounds great. i guess until you learn more about who these guys are and what access they have into
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your private lives, they are the people who are seizing control of the federal government. you didn't elect them. in fact, most americans don't even know their names. you might call them the young, inexperienced engineers aiding elon musk's government takeover. they are between the ages of 19 and 24, holding nebulous job titles within the made up and orwellian department of government efficiency from wired. most have connections to musk, and at least two have connections to musk's longtime associate, peter thiel, a co-founder and chair of the analytics firm and government contractor palantir, who has long expressed opposition to democracy. wired identified six men musk allies or lieutenants who have gained access to the treasury department or who have taken control of the office of personnel management and general services administration, which is the federal government agency that manages federal property and provides contracting services. there are reported
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details about some of them, like luke ferriter, who per the new york times is a 23 year old former spacex intern with access to us aid systems, according to people familiar with his role. he is also listed as an executive engineer in the office of the secretary of health and human services, and had an email account at the gsa interns with little to no government experience are helping to reshape the federal government with potentially catastrophic consequences, and we're starting to see some real backlash at town halls and not just democratic ones. even in a deep red georgia county, republican congressman rich mccormick faced an angry crowd during a town hall on thursday, with many of his constituents lashing out over his support for trump's agenda. >> why is. >> this being jammed. >> down the. >> pipe so. rushed and sloppily? >> so you. understand that when
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you say you have. >> this many employees that. >> you have to cut. >> that organization. >> decides. >> who they're. >> going to cut now, they. >> may make no. it's clear from all the writings of our founding fathers that our great republic was never meant to be ruled by a dictator, nor a king who. >> joining me now is david gilbert, reporter for wired, and tim o'brien, senior executive editor of bloomberg opinion. thank you both for being here. david gilbert, welcome to the show. please tell us why you guys have been doing honestly, some of the best reporting on this and on who these guys are. walk us through some of the personnel who are now running our government. the doj's. >> yeah, i think you kind of laid. >> it out quite well. >> these guys. >> are most. >> of them are. >> just out of college. >> some of. >> them haven't finished college. >> one of. >> them is. >> a. >> teenager who hasn't even.
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>> gone to college, has just finished high school. >> at edward carson, or, as he's known, online. >> big balls. >> these guys have. >> quite a lot of links to. >> trump and. >> peter thiel. they've either. >> interned or worked. >> with some of his. >> companies. >> and some of them have worked with multiple of his companies. and while a lot of them have shown a lot of skill, as trump was talking about and are good with computers, i guess if you want to put it like that, they have zero experience of working with real systems. and when you talk to experts in government systems, i was talking to the founder of the usds earlier this week, and he was looking at one of these dozers, and he was saying that he would not put him in charge of any system that had any serious personal data involved with it. and i think that's the real danger is that these guys have never worked with systems like this before,
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yet they're being granted, as you said, god, access to this system and can do pretty much whatever they want with it. >> and godmode access. can you explain that a little bit more for our non tech savvy viewers? i mean, does this mean that they could upload malware or download the data that they're getting access to. and we're talking about like personal data of americans? >> yeah, i think i think it's the downloading of data and the manipulation of data is what is really worrying here. initially when we reported on this, the pushback was that they only had read access, which meant they could see the information, but they couldn't really do anything about it. but we had reporting, we knew that that wasn't the case, that at least one of them had read write access to this information, which means they can manipulate and change and potentially take the data out of the agencies they're in and send it to another agency or send it somewhere else. and because there's no oversight, there's no transparency. we don't know where that goes. the government
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has finally, ultimately admitted in court that this is the case, but we still really don't know what they're doing with the data. and we've been trying to report this out, but there's this kind of veil of or lack of transparency around exactly what they're doing. and that's, i think, really worrying. >> right. and tim, i think, you know, for, for, for ordinary people hearing about this, you know, the thought of that is if they could take $80 billion out of new york city's bank account, just take it. they could take money out of any bank account or any bank. they could stop someone's social security or lots of people, social security, or make some money off of the social security payments, or delay them, or prevent them, or end medicaid payments to states. i mean, you think about manipulation of data. can we trust the data coming out of the bureau of labor statistics when they report the unemployment rate? right. if donald trump wants it to be 2%, will it be 2%? if he wants it to be, you know, we have 0% unemployment. could it be that could they manipulate census data like
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there's so many things they could theoretically do? and then to me, one of the others to think about is whether they could take the data and just use it or have. elon musk have access to it to create his ai, which is launching next week. >> well. >> you know, the tether in all of this and in david's great reporting and the questions. you're asking is that one word that keeps coming up, which is data. and it is there is so much data centralized in in the federal government. and it's become simpler and simpler to access that from single points. you know, there's a there was a long, i think, period of time when a lot of that data was siloed. there was competition between agencies. it wasn't seen as efficient to have some of this housed in different federal agencies and departments. and, and in recent, you know, i think probably since 911, there's been real efforts to centralize access to data. certainly national security and intelligence data. but even just management data, and. >> i think that's. >> why musk and his crew occupy
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the office of personnel management as one of their first sort of stakeouts when they entered the trump administration, because they can do so much from there. i think it's also really useful to think about the world that musk himself inhabits now, because there is a population of digital entrepreneurs who are in close to this government and operating within it, and they are a very distinct business class. businesses have always been close to the us government, going back to the gilded age, howard hughes in the 70s. but this is a population of businesspeople that see government as essentially getting in the way. they see their own business activities as boundaryless and global. and i think they see this as a useful moment to solidify this, not just in the us, but as a model elsewhere, which is why you have so many other governments trying to emulate, you know, maga and maga as an anti-government, authoritarian movement. and, and
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the us right now that's being allied with the business interests of a small clique of silicon valley entrepreneurs. and the other thing is that business isn't a government. government is not a business. government provides a lot of services that don't have bottom line orientations and have long term goals. public works, public health, defense those are enterprises other businesses don't want to get involved with or can't actually operate. so this idea that they're also going to come in with a business minded approach to these and that will necessarily make government more efficient, is also very murky and unproven. perspective. >> yeah, because government is going to help people. that doesn't always involve making a profit. david, you know, opm you know, i think it's important that tim mentioned opm because from a from your from a reportorial point of view in opm, i don't believe is foible. right. so if they were and they're operating out of the white house too, they have like
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white house apparently eop, you know, eop emails. and so it's very difficult to get at them because you can't do a foia request, freedom of information act request because they're operating in a way that's savvy that way. but can you talk about that? and the challenge of trying to report on who these people are, and also the fact that they're working in these systems, that i think anyone who sort of has some familiar with the government, they're like old. these are not like brand new, spanking new computer systems that are really hard to manipulate or hack. >> yeah, like one of the things that came out this week was the fact that the social security administration databases are built primarily on cobalt, which is a 60 year old programing language, that none of these engineers would ever have any interaction with. you know, during their education or their brief periods of internship at spacex. and for them to go in and try and plug their laptops in because they're carrying their own laptops into these places and plug in and try and
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figure out what is going on, they just they don't know. and that's how you end up with elon musk and donald trump claiming that 150 year old people are claiming benefits. they just they don't understand the systems. they don't understand the data they're getting back out of them, which is terrifying given that they're now in charge. and it's absolutely what you said about trying to find out what exactly they are doing with the data is really, really difficult because what we found out is that within the agencies, they are siloed in very specific teams. there's typically a couple of people from the agency together with some people from the that would have been at the agency already, and they work as a very cut off or individual team within those agencies. and so finding more information out about that is difficult. and then what we've seen, maybe in the course of the last week is the fact that people are now paranoid. people are worried about speaking up. yeah. initially there was a lot more
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ease about speaking up, but people are now worried about their jobs, people are worried about getting caught, and there has been threats being made against them. and that is, you know, making it even more difficult to find out what's happening. >> yeah, indeed. it doesn't help that the d.c. u.s. attorney, ed martin, is threatening people and claiming that anyone who's even exposing the identities of these people is somehow threatening them and maybe guilty of a crime. it is scary stuff. david gilbert, please come back. you guys are doing such great reporting. tim o'brien, our friend. thank you. come back also often. and coming up, the trump pardoned oath keepers and the proud boys gleefully. look at this. held a press conference on capitol hill today, celebrating the fact that they were able to essentially get away with the insurrection and return to the scene of the and return to the scene of the crime. dry eyes still feel gritty, rough, or tired? with miebo, eyes can feel ♪ miebo ♪ ♪ ohh yeah ♪ miebo is the only prescription dry eye drop that forms a protective layer for the number one cause of dry eye:
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right now, all of this, all of it was orchestrated by the federal government. the complaint the complainants included the former leader of the proud boys, enrique tarrio, who, if you remember, was convicted on six felony counts, including seditious conspiracy for helping to organize the events preceding that day. and there was the founder of the oath keepers, elmer stewart rhodes, who was only convicted on three counts, though one of them was also seditious conspiracy. unlike on january 6th, 2021, today's gathering was mostly peaceful. no cops beaten, tased or doused with bear spray except following the press conference when tarrio was arrested for, quote, simple assault after striking the phone and arm of a counter-protester. prior to today's event, this group of first class citizens reportedly got the rock star treatment at the annual gathering of the conservative political action conference, aka cpac, though not without a few hiccups. when their credentials were temporarily denied. well,
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temporarily for most, though not for january 6th insurrection is jake lang, who didn't take it well. >> this woman is telling me that my credentials have been removed. you know, i did 900 days of solitary confinement. i was just released from the dc gulag 29 days ago with a presidential pardon. this is abhorrent. this is horrible. we should not be being treated like this. >> and here is jake lang beating cops with an aluminum baseball bat and a riot shield on january 6th, 2021. i'd say those officers really shouldn't have been treated that way. joining me now is ryan riley, nbc news justice reporter and author of sedition hunters how january 6th broke the justice system. and, well, it did ryan, that guy, jake lang, when he got out of his new york, when he was, you know, about to get sprung by donald trump. he said this in my heart of hearts, i think i'm going to be picked up in a limousine. me and all the jj
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sixers in the cdp where i am right now and taken to the inauguration on day one. in my heart, that's what i feel like is going to happen. we will be presented as god forbid. humility strikes me, some form of heroes or whatever at the main event, the inauguration, like the heroic champion entry type of scenario, the liberation of the january 6th political prisoners brought directly just five miles away from the united states capitol to revel in the festivities with all of our other people who stepped by our side. they think they're heroes. they think they have more of a right to the capitol than the capitol police, who they beat up. talk a little bit about this event today and what went down. >> yeah. >> i mean, you know, it was really bizarre. >> i mean, last night i got a phone call from one of the january 6th defendants, actually a face time, and she panned over. she was at cpac and enrique tarrio was on the screen. right. so you're talking about people who are returning to the capitol. they actually did the whose house our house chant on the on the west side of the capitol near where that first breach point took place,
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where carolyn edwards was assaulted by the mob. there she was, the first officer to be injured by the january 6th mob, and then sort of traced their path, and they went around to the east side of the us capitol, actually went through the path that they went through on january 6th itself, sort of walked down a few set of stairs and walked to the other place. and where they ended up setting up was where they organized on on january 6th itself. initially the but then the police officers, the capitol police told them they couldn't really set up there. they ended up moving a little bit further, but still sort of on the grounds of the us capitol there. but it was i mean, it was just a bizarre sort of event. and i think, you know, they announced this lawsuit. and one of the fascinating things about that is, you know, considering the nexus between the justice department and the white house these days and how directly the justice department is reacting to the orders of donald trump, you very well could see a settlement there, right? like that's something that they have the power to do. the justice department can settle with entities that sue the federal government. so theoretically,
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it's. not outside the realm of possibility that these individuals are going to be looking at a payout on taxpayer dime. >> they are going i mean, i think you can expect that steve bannon has said numerous times that they should get reparations. he's used that term. and, you know, given who's running the justice department now. yeah, i think we should expect that we, the taxpayers are going to pay these people money for having beat the hell out of police officers. they're also, in some cases, trying to get their pardons expanded. there are a couple of people, elias castellanos, when the fbi reached his maryland home because they were investigating him for january 6th insurrection, they found four guns, along with evidence that castellanos had sold cocaine and testosterone. you got a floridian accused of throwing an explosive device at police officers when he was arrested on january 6th. charges agents found a gun and ammunition in his possession. you've got people. when they were investigated for january 6th, people, police may have found child pornography. et cetera. they think they should be pardoned for all of it. right? they should. they pardon should be extended to whatever other crimes were going on. this is the one person who was had child
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sex pornography allegedly in their home that we just showed. >> yeah. and not the only one i should say. like there are numerous child sex offenders amongst the january 6th defendants. they are charged separately for that crime. but, you know, there's one case in out of texas where an individual was charged with soliciting a minor online. andrew talk. he's someone who was actually busted in a bumble sting because he was bragging to a woman on the dating app afterwards who sort of had gone out and tried to talk to a bunch of people who went to the capitol that day. and she said it was she told me it was very easy to sort of reel him in. but anyway, what, you know, with these other crimes, you do have these pardons. and basically the line that the justice department has drawn is saying that any any crimes that were a result of a search of a house is where they're going to sort of say, okay, that's we're going to also say this is part of the crime, right? because, you know, in their mind, then you shouldn't have been searched for in the first place because of january 6th. there is one
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case i will say a word about this week. edward kelly, who separately plotted to murder the fbi agents who were investigating him. the justice department is standing behind that particular case and that sentencing is coming up. so it'll be very interesting to see where donald trump's justice department lands on how long the sentence someone who plotted to murder fbi agent should you should get. >> i wouldn't hold my breath for him to get much of a sentence. unfortunately, this is the new law and order they want to charge adam schiff, senator adam schiff and chuck schumer with crimes for speaking out against doge. but apparently it is not a crime to beat police officers on behalf of donald trump. there it is. even if at home you've got other crimes going on. ryan riley, what a new world. thank you so much. coming up, the devastating consequences of the pure cruelty driving this administration's draconian and ugly immigration policies. we'll ugly immigration policies. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ the flag replacement program got started by a good friend of mine, a navy vet, saw a flag at the office
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house, including on their increasingly juvenile social media accounts like this rather sick message posted on the official white house website on valentine's day. roses are red, violets are blue, or the official white house twitter account posted a video of immigrants in handcuffs and shackles and labeling it asmr. but amid the cruel trolling from the highest and now apparently lowest office in the land, there's a story that shows the tragic consequences of the toxic environment and rhetoric toward immigrants that's taking hold in trump and elon's america. little 11 year old jocelyn rojo carranza. her father called her a sweet, happy girl, took her own life this month, according to her parents and gainesville, texas, police, according to her family. little jocelyn sought her school's guidance counselor two weeks prior to her death. she reported harassment on the school bus by 1 or 2 students over her parents immigration status. jocelyn's dad spoke with nbc's dallas station.
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>> well. >> i have no now. jocelyn gone. >> to. >> the to talking about two weeks in interesting couple times to tell somebody telling migration going to come for your daddy and for your mom. because i know your mom is mexican and your dad. to. and. it's hard. >> it's. >> hard to assimilate all this. >> he also said jocelyn was scared amid rumors that ice agents would detain him. the gainesville, texas, independent school district declined an interview but said in a statement, quote, whenever we receive a report of bullying, we respond swiftly to ensure all students are safe physically and emotionally. while we cannot release any information about specific students or incidents, our schools have several policies in place to combat bullying and resolve conflicts, unquote. the gainesville police say an investigation is ongoing.
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the police are investigating jocelyn's death, and the school district is investigating the allegations of bullying. joining me now is maria teresa kumar, msnbc contributor and president and ceo of voto latino and mta, my friend. i mean, if this was a young person killed by an undocumented immigrant, this is all the right would be talking about. i've seen a few people have sent me jocelyn's story. it is not being blared all over the media on the on the other side, but it should be. i mean, the bullying atmosphere we're seeing has released a statement. i'll just put it up on the screen so people can read it. but this is horrific. it's the worst case scenario. >> well, this is this. >> is. >> the. >> thing, joy. and this is something that we. saw sadly under the first trump administration is the level of bullying that happens. among school children, among communities, to anyone that is brown. we don't know the actual status of jocelyn's parents, but that misses the point. there was systematic failure. >> all up. >> and down from that tweet that
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you showed from the white house. basically degenerating people that are that may be undocumented, down to the school that did not notify the mother and the father that jocelyn had been bullying and that she had sought help. she did the right thing. she went and talked to an adult and it ended there. so there are multiple levels of failure, but we do need to take a step back. and say, what is the humanity when we allow our communities to basically, you know, absorb this hate coming out of the white house and not act accordingly. and i. do believe that, unfortunately, what happened with jocelyn really allows us to have a conversation as parents in this moment, making sure that we are telling our children to be kind. i can tell you that in 2019, i went and. spoke to dallas of to over 3000 student counselors, and one of the things they told me was that the number one issue that they had started seeing among three year old latinos, three year olds, latinos, was
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anxiety and depression because of. >> what. >> they were hearing, their parents possibility of having to be deported. i cannot imagine the mental health of these children growing under this administration, and it's going to take us adults to make sure that we're sheltering them to the best of our ability. >> yeah, i mean, they just removed the haitian and venezuelan americans, tps, their, you know, children of immigrants all over the country are terrified. and as lulach said, no child should ever feel so isolated, so tormented that they believe their only escape is to take their own life. this is the administration is lying. the data. that's the real data. the actual data shows that the administration is not arresting people who are primarily criminals. only 41% of the 1800 people that they've arrested fall into that category. they're also taking down the national institute of justice, has deleted websites that track undocumented immigrants offending rate. and the data that was up on january 18th,
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before trump came in, showed that undocumented immigrants offend, do crimes at a lower rate than us born citizens. you can see that on the left. on the right, you can see the new one where it just says the department of justice, office of justice programs is currently reviewing its websites and materials, blah, blah, blah. they took it down because they don't want people to be able to look on a government website and see that they are lying about the majority of undocumented immigrants being criminals. >> well. >> this is this is, again, the asymmetrical nuance when it comes to immigration policy for this administration. on one case, they're saying we're trying to deport all these undocumented folks that may or may not have committed crimes, right. at the same time, they are waving a banner and telling white europeans of south africa in south africa, say, come in and become refugee asylum. and that tells you. >> exactly who they actually. feel it should be the people. >> representing this country. but when you look at what their goals are, we've always known, and you and i have had this conversation, there is no way for them to meet their
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deportation goals when it comes to deporting individuals, because to your, you know, to your great charts that they used to have on their website is that, yeah, undocumented folks simply. don't commit crime at scale. and that's part of it, because they don't want to be on the radar. they're here to work. they're here to put their heads down, and they contribute hundreds of millions of dollars every year to our economy. but this is, again, where the american people are going to have to have a conversation, because when they start deporting your neighbors, when they start deporting families, even in ruby red states and districts, that is going to be a pushback, because it's the amount of disruption, not just in community, but economically is going to be almost unbearable. and so my hope is, is that they start learning and actually recognizing that the contributions that these individuals make to our community every single day, but more importantly, it is going to be about every single american voter standing up for what is right. >> the a bunch of democrats, 12 democrats voted for the lake and riley act, which was named for a young woman who was tragically,
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tragically killed. and her family is also heartbroken, obviously. and in this case, it was the very unusual case of it being an undocumented immigrant who was the assailant. but two democrats voted for that, some who were not up for reelection until the 2030s. here's an idea. maybe one of those guys should propose a jocelyn act, a jocelyn carranza act, and do something about trying to protect young people who are being scared, literally to death by their fellow citizens. maria teresa kumar, thank you very much. and coming up, trump's attempt to celebrate black history month. i know you want to laugh when you hear that. as his administration decimates the gains made by the civil rights movement. yeah, it's as absurd as you think it it's as absurd as you think it was. all [monologue] i got somebody for that! ♪♪ i got somebody for that. ♪♪ i got somebody for that! you guys got somebody for peyronie's disease? ♪♪ there's hope for the estimated 1 in 10 men who may have peyronie's disease, or pd.
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have spent the month since his dramatic return to office waging an all out assault on diversity, equity and inclusion. what's even more surreal is that donald trump, a guy who last june was freshly accused of racism during his days at the apprentice, gathered his favorite black republicans from senator tim scott to disastrous failed georgia senate candidate herschel walker, and pretended to care about the key figures in black history, a history that trump is vowing to erase from every school, library and university in america. it's also pure comedy, not just because of the cheesing and embarrassing sycophancy in that room, but also because while the white house was holding this performative circus, other trump agencies like the pentagon and the department of transportation banned black history commemorations, per donald trump's executive order. joining me now is wajahat ali, author of the left hook. on substack and co-host of the democracy ish podcast. and eugene craig, former chair of black republicans for kamala harris.
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eugene, i am going to start with you, because sometimes you got to be embarrassed for people because they don't have the good sense god gave them to be embarrassed for themselves. you did not attend this. whatever we want to call that was in the white house with the folks that were cheesing and dancing around for trump. but what do you make of the fact that it happened and those who attended? let's put up the kodak black. they put up a picture of kodak black, the rapper, on their official white house page. >> i'm going to tell you. >> this right. >> i just. >> find it disgusting that. >> these people. >> couldn't stand. >> on business. >> when black americans. >> are under. attack at every, every stretch and every angle, whether it's, you know, usda pulling hbcu funding, whether it's dye being equivalent to the new n-word and, and the way the trump administration is just literally trying to denigrate anything black during black history month. and so for those people like deontay johnson and malik abdul and byron donalds to go and trade in, you know, rich black heritage for a drink and toast with a little racist is absolutely disgusting.
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>> and by the way, i just note that donald trump, the day after holding that little party with those people who apparently are not embarrassed to be seen with him, just fired the joint chiefs chair, icu brown, who was only the second person ever to be a black joint chiefs chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. so he did that the day after. so y'all got used, you got played. you got nothing. byron donalds though watch is going to apparently get donald trump's endorsement. he got his truth social endorsement to be the governor of florida. something that i, i texted to a good friend of mine, my bestie in florida who does a lot of politics down there. she literally laughed in response. your thoughts, donald byron donalds, who walked out after dixie was played in new york and has no shame there. they say he's going to be governor of florida now. >> yeah. >> every community has what i call their chickens. >> for colonel. >> sanders, muslims had their halal chickens. the black community has their chickens. byron donalds is a grown black man who referred to donald trump as his daddy. and i want i want to tell the byron donalds every community has got donald. i got a kash patel, we got a, we got a
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nimrata. but you know, we got a haley. we all got em. alright. what i want to say is this. they'll never love you. they'll never love you. no matter what you do. they'll never love you. you can never wipe out that brown or black skin. to quote. look what they make you give your integrity, your decency, your people, your cultures, your self-respect. and for what? how many black people are in the trump administration? one. it ain't byron donalds. it ain't tim scott. remember tim scott, who married a real life woman and even, you know, sorry. my bad. too soon. look what they make you give. and so for all those people of color who traded in their ancestors and their decency, was it worth it? it ain't worth it. that's what i have to say about that. >> i totally and listen, y'all are speaking for me. i want to i want to show you guys this. so steve bannon this is the this is just to get it. make sure maybe they won't get it. the people who are there celebrating with trump last night, donald trump's former white house adviser, the guy who made breitbart the home
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of the alt right. here's what he did. he apparently he's been accused by the french. far right. okay. a person from marine le pen's far right party has said she can't be seen with steve bannon because he apparently did the same salute that everyone is saying elon musk did. that is they're trying to call it a roman salute, which doesn't exist. that's not a thing. but he apparently did it. let's watch him do it. let's see him do it there. are we going to see him do it? there we go. he did it, eugene. and apparently the far right in france is, like, too much. too much. >> but but the thing is this, right, steve bannon, you know, now, like, you know, vice president vance, i can't believe i'm saying this. they're doing their best to control us all. but secondly, prop up the far right around the world. so while you know le pen may now want to distance herself from steve bannon the last decade and a half, she embraced him. similarly. how you know, jd vance is now in germany propping up the afd. you know, this is for what it's worth. it's truly a global fight against, you know, right wing nationalism.
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you know, the rebirth of naziism and all around just bad guys, you know, currently in power. >> to the point that the new york post, rupert murdoch's new york post, made it their cover story today to try to instruct donald trump on who is a dictator, because he keeps trying to say, the guy who's literally in a middle of a war because putin has invaded his country, is a dictator because he's not holding elections in the middle of a war. here's donald trump talking about putin, his buddy in ukraine. >> mr. president, you have some sway with him. you definitely talked. >> to him. >> more than probably anybody else in the world. but here's the thing. they have. >> taken it. >> have to make a deal. because if he wanted, he'd get the whole country. >> wow. >> yeah. so two things. number one, never go full nazi. another piece of news came out today that actual nazis, nick fuentes and richard spencer said, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow your roll. calm down with the nazi salutes. when you're too nazi for nazis. maybe you jumped the shark or goose stepped a bit too far. and then
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secondly, donald trump, through our allies, zelensky, who is democratically elected under the bus for putin. same verse. second, you know, the second verse, same as the first. right. and he is promoting russian talking points. and this is a man who promotes 1776 but says he wants to be a dictator for today. terminate the constitution. quotes napoleon doesn't call putin a war criminal, an anti-american dictator, a dictator, but calls zelensky a dictator. so forgive me for saying this on your show. i never tried to swear, but donald trump is acting like putin's. and i want an american president for the american people. but we don't have that right now. joy, and forgive me for saying that and being so blunt, but you know what? it's all going to hell right now. joy, you got to let me be blunt. i got to keep it real. okay? >> democracy. >> thankfully, we're cable. we're cable. let me play one more thing, because to the point that you guys are making and we're going to do who won the week in a minute. but before we do this, let me give you a nominee for who won the week. now we don't know if this lady
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is going to win, but this is the governor of maine. her name is janet mills. let me show you how you stand up to a dictator, or at least a wannabe one. roll them. >> is the maine here the governor of maine? i'm here. are you not going to comply with that? >> comply with state and federal law? >> well, i'm we are the federal law. well, you better do it. you better do it because you're not going to get any federal funding at all if you don't. and by the way, you population, even though it's somewhat liberal, although i did very well there, your population doesn't want men playing in women's sports. so you better you better comply because otherwise you're not getting any, any federal funding. every state. good. i'll see you in court. i look forward to that. that should be a real easy one. and enjoy your life after governor, because i don't think you'll be in elected politics. >> yes, you will, because she said, see you in court. boom. don't go anywhere. because after that mike drop, wajahat and eugene are going to stick with eugene are going to stick with us after careful review of medical guidance and research on pain relief,
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visit homeserve.com. >> what was it. >> like when. trump got elected? >> what was the what was the reaction? do you think about ice. >> coming to knock on your front door? >> t for president trump's first 100 days. alex wagner travels to the story to talk with people most impacted by the policies. >> were you there. >> on january? i was. >> there on january 6th. >> did it surprise. >> you that you were fired, given how. resolutely nonpartisan you have been? >> and for more in-depth reporting, follow her podcast trumpland with alex wagner. >> well, we made it to the end of another week, which means it's time to play our favorite game. who won the week? back with me are wajahat ali and eugene craig. wajahat ali, who won the week? >> democratic women. governor. governor mills, aoc. jasmine crockett. senator warren with chutzpah, with fire, with boldness. punching a bully figuratively in the mouth. democratic men. schumer. pay attention. follow their lead.
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>> a man who beat that? eugene craig. who won the week. >> listen. well, my book. erica claudio, the chair and founder of my body pac black women, led us this last cycle and lead us this next cycle. and she's the tip of the spear, charging the resistance. young black women taking lead with my body. pac. >> okay, both of you guys picked women. so let me go and help out the men. i'm going to pick the men of the canadian national hockey team who won the four nation games. justin trudeau tweeted at trump and got back his dignity against that man. trying to say that the 51st state. no they're not. they're the first state when it comes to canada. you can't take our country. you can't take our game. oh, canada. wajahat ali eugene i'm penny davis, honey, watch out. eugene. craig. thank you. that is tonight's reidout indeed. all in with jen psaki starts now.
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