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theaters. you and i don't get out much this year. yeah, we don't get we don't get out that much. so that does it for us this morning. we, of course, are looking back on the three year anniversary of the russian invasion of ukraine and whether republicans on the hill want to admit it or not, it was, in fact, very straightforward. regardless of what the secretary of defense said, it was a russian invasion of ukraine to try to take over the entire country. we'll see if any republicans care to speak out and say the same things today that they were just saying in the months and weeks and years before donald trump got back to the white house. that does it for us this morning. ana cabrera picks up the coverage right now. >> right now on ana cabrera. >> reports the ultimatum elon musk tells. >> federal employees. >> explain your work or else. >> igniting a new.
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>> standoff with. >> trump loyalists. >> leading other. federal agencies. plus, a conservative podcaster now tapped for number. >> two at. >> the fbi. >> dan bongino. >> history of calling for. >> mass firings at the bureau. also ahead critical condition. >> the latest on the health. >> of pope francis as he remains in the hospital this morning. >> and three years since. >> russia's invasion. >> zelenskyy's new. >> comments about. >> trading power for. >> peace in ukraine. >> amid new tensions with. >> president trump. it is. >> ten eastern, 7 a.m. pacific. >> thanks for joining. >> us on this monday morning. >> i'm ana. >> cabrera reporting from new york. we begin this morning with elon musk's ultimatum to every single. federal employee. we're talking millions. >> of federal workers. justify your. >> work by. >> midnight tonight or be fired. >> that new. >> demand igniting a new standoff with trump. >> loyalists. >> leading other federal.
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>> agencies who've told their employees not. >> to respond. >> this as the trump musk. >> slash and burn continues. 1600 usaid workers. >> now officially fired, and the pentagon. left in upheaval after. >> several top military leaders were. >> given. >> the boot. >> nbc's yamiche alcindor is joining us now from the white house. >> and ken dilanian is closely monitoring all the updates from the justice department. >> so, yamiche, walk us. through this. >> ultimatum from elon musk. do we even know what they're trying to accomplish? >> well, this was really a striking development. over the. >> weekend. >> elon musk and the department of government efficiency, as well as president trump, say that they're looking for waste. fraud and abuse in the country and in the federal workforce. and they, of course, want to trim down the federal workforce. but what they are doing is giving an ultimatum to 2.3 million federal workers, most of them being asked to respond to this email that came out saying that today at 11:59 p.m, they have until to send five bullet points of what they accomplished last week. so this is a demand
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by elon musk. he is putting on social media that if people don't respond to this email, that he will take that as a resignation, though there are some sort of power struggle happening here. and this is happening because you have some agencies like the state department and other and the federal bureau of prisons sort of telling their employees to pause. but you also have a number of other agencies like the hhs saying, in fact, that they have to respond. so a lot going on. but this ultimatum is a legitimate email that came from the federal government. anna. >> yeah. >> let's show that mixed. >> reaction we're seeing from agency to agency, because yamiche mentioned hhs among those saying, you must respond. we know of at least a half dozen other agencies saying, don't respond. and, ken, the intel agencies are among those pushing back. are we seeing an internal power. >> struggle here? >> is that what's going on? >> it's hard. >> to. >> know exactly, anna, but that's sure what. >> it looked like. it particularly when fbi. >> director kash patel immediately put out a message to the workforce, basically. >> saying. >> ignore this. >> we will evaluate. >> our own. employees on.
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>> our own timetable. thank you. very much. now. >> that may. >> be kabuki theater. it's we're going to have to see how this plays out over the coming days. >> but one. >> thing is for sure. >> it's problematic for intel agency employees and fbi employees to write down what they did last week, even if it's not classified information. >> because a lot of what. >> they're working on. is very sensitive. experts have already said this unclassified email would be a bonanza for foreign. >> intelligence services. >> if people from the cia and the nsa and the fbi started writing down what they did last. >> week, even if it wasn't classified. >> on them. >> and, yamiche. >> at the pentagon, there. >> was that friday night purge of top officers, several other senior officers also fired. where do things stand now? >> well, right now, the department of defense, as you said, has made some massive cuts. you have seen general c.q. brown, who was only the second black general to hold the title of chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, also taken and fired in this changes was admiral lisa franchetti. she was the first
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woman, first female officer to rise to the navy's top job. we also had several top lawyers from the navy, air force and the army also dismissed. but the defense department, the secretary, pete hegseth, he is defending this. take a listen to what he said over the weekend. >> this is. >> a. >> reflection of the president wanting the right people around him to execute the national security approach we want to take. and i have a lot of respect for cq brown. i got to know him over the course of a month. he's an honorable man. there's nothing about purging. there's nothing. >> about illegal. >> we've made. >> clear from the beginning, shannon. >> the military. >> will be apolitical. >> now, while pete hegseth is there saying that he thinks general, c.q. brown is an honorable person. for months, he's been attacking cq brown, general cq brown, saying that he was someone who was pushing too many diversity initiatives, saying that he was someone who was too woke. so the general, of course, has been, has, has said that he was really into people's merit, but also did want to see a diverse military. so that is
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sort of what we're seeing there in terms of why he might have been let go. it's also interesting that pete hegseth has been saying that he wants to cut the defense department budget by $50 billion with a b. >> and then there's dan bongino, someone who has never spent a day working at the fbi. >> but will. >> now be the deputy director. ken, tell us. >> about bongino's. >> background and what kind of reaction we're seeing to this pick. >> well, the most important thing to know about his background is that, as you said, he hasn't worked at the fbi. this is a job that, for 117 years has been. held by a career fbi agent. because this person is. actually in charge of. >> operations at a very complex law. >> enforcement agency. dan bongino. >> was a former secret. service agent, but he's. >> better known. for being. >> a. right wing. >> podcaster, a very successful podcaster who has spouted conspiracy theories. most recently on. he claimed that the fbi was lying when they said they didn't know. who placed the pipe bombs outside the. rnc and the dnc the day before the january 6th attacks. the fbi
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came out with a big information. >> push to. >> try to get more, more info from the public. they said they were seeking information. >> about suspects. >> bongino did a podcast where he. >> said. >> no, they really know who did it. this is all a cover up. well, now he's going. >> to go and. >> help run this agency, and he's going to have to either deliver on these conspiracy theories that he's told his millions of followers about or tell them that, in fact, no, they weren't true. after all, it's going to be a really interesting thing to watch. >> but i can just tell you. >> there is. >> real consternation. bordering on horror from the fbi people. >> i'm talking to about. >> this appointment. because of his beliefs and because he has no background in. >> the fbi. >> ken dilanian and yamiche alcindor, we know you're staying on top of all these developments. thanks for walking us through the latest reporting. and joining us now is democratic. congressman seth moulton of massachusetts, a member of the armed services committee. >> congressman, good. >> to have you here. let's just start where ken left off. bongino. now, the number two at the fbi, this is someone who's been peddling conspiracy theories for years. in 2018, he
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said, quote, my entire life right now is about. owning the libs. >> congressman, how. >> are you looking at. >> this pic and what it means for the nation's top law enforcement agency? >> well. >> the point is that trump is politicizing everything. he's injecting his maga politics into every federal agency. and if you know people. >> who work. >> at the. >> fbi who. >> are consummate professionals, people like friends of mine who i. >> served with in. >> the marines, who now do this incredibly important law enforcement job for the nation to keep our. to keep us safe. they're horrified. >> by this. >> kind of politicization. >> you know. >> they're professionals who show up to do. >> their work. >> every single day, not to play politics, but to ensure our national security. so that's. >> the. >> irony here, is that. >> when trump and. >> hegseth say they're politicizing things, no, they are making the most. political appointments. >> they possibly can. and that's. >> dangerous for these agencies. it's dangerous for our national security and our basic just safety every day, which is something that we count on the fbi to protect. >> and more broadly, you have federal.
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>> workers who really do feel committed to public service. now they have this ultimatum email sent to millions of federal employees, elon musk, saying they have until midnight to respond or be fired. what's your reaction to that? >> well, obviously it's illegal. i mean, there's. >> been numerous legal opinions. >> that have said you can't. >> fire someone for not. >> responding to an email from some government. >> agency that just was. >> established for some billionaire. >> to run. >> but the problem here, of course, is. >> that. you know, they're. >> just doing. >> whatever they want from the oval office. >> trump and. >> elon and there's no control. >> so what's. >> going to happen. >> in. >> the immediate term is just chaos. chaos. and that's dangerous for our country. that's dangerous for our just day to day safety. >> i'm a. >> national security guy. >> so i'm. >> looking at what china and russia are doing right now. >> possibly trying to take. >> advantage of this moment when our guard is down. >> because everything is. >> in chaos. and the federal government. >> speaking of that chaos. >> among those. >> fired in recent days are several. >> top leaders. >> in the military, including
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the joint. chiefs chairman general cq brown jr, a four star officer, former deputy head of. >> u.s. central. >> command, a former commander of u.s. air forces in the middle east. someone who's not real political, typically, the washington post points out that brown spoke. >> infrequently about. >> diversity and sought to emphasize merit and opportunity. they cite this 2021 air force recruiting video, where he noted that a pilot's race and gender are invisible under his or. >> her helmet. >> you just know i'm an american airman kicking. >> your butt. >> he said. >> congressman, why. >> do you think he was fired? >> i think he was. >> fired because. >> he's such. >> a. principled person. >> that he's going to uphold his. >> oath to the constitution before any personal loyalty to trump, and trump has clearly replaced him. this this matters a lot. who he's replaced. >> him with. >> he's replaced him with someone who donned. >> a maga hat in a meeting and apparently said, you. >> know. >> donald trump. >> i'd kill for you.
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>> so this, again, is about politicizing a federal institution, politicizing the military. and the point that we should understand about cq brown is not. >> what your reporter at the white house. focused on, because. >> this is playing. >> right into. >> the republican's hands. frankly, it's not the fact that he was the second black. >> person to hold. >> this job. >> it's the fact that he is. >> one. >> of the most. >> intelligent, forward thinking military officers of his generation. and i'll. >> tell you, i wrote. >> a letter. >> to that effect to president biden when he was considering. >> him for an appointment. i'm very focused. on how we need to modernize our military. because the world is changing so quickly. >> we see this in ukraine. we see the threats from china. we have to. rapidly modernize. >> and cq brown has been at the forefront of that discussion and debate. >> that's why he. >> was the chairman of the joint chiefs. that's why he should have that job. that's why he should still be in that job. but he's being. fired because trump is making a point about. race
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and because he wants a personal loyalist in the position instead of an absolute consummate professional. like cq brown. >> this isn't the first time the vice president has pointed out that other presidents have fired generals. president truman fired general douglas macarthur. president obama fired. >> because he was subordinate. so, right. because you see this. different made a mistake, right? there were very. >> clear reasons that come. >> back to. >> basic civilian. >> control of the military. >> why those. >> generals were fired. and we can't gloss. >> over that. >> there's been no reason whatsoever. i wrote a bipartisan letter, very significant, that it was bipartisan to secretary. haig last week saying, if you want to. fire cq brown, just explain why. >> just tell me why. >> and you've heard all these interviews this weekend. he can't give an answer. he can't. give a substantive answer, because the only answer that's true is. >> because. trump wants. >> a loyalist, and the secretary of defense knows that. >> that's not how. >> you. >> choose a. >> chairman of the joint chiefs.
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>> democratic congressman seth moulton, really appreciate your perspective. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> next. >> rage at republicans. >> gop lawmakers getting an earful over government cuts. but will it slow down elon musk slash and burn efforts. also ahead, a tug. >> of. >> war over ukraine's future. three years since. russia's invasion. could the strong arm tactics for peace cost zelenskyy his job? >> plus. >> germans wary of their pasts get a major. >> shock at the polls. >> what's behind the. >> rise of the country's. far right? and the latest scare in the air that scrambled fighter the air that scrambled fighter jets. we're back in 90s. (vo) what happens when one of the most famous dunkers of all time goes to the greatest lobsterfest of all time? (blake griffin) i make red lobster famous. (vo) no blake, dunking happens. (blake griffin) yeah, you're right. (vo) create your own lobster lover's dream with 2 or 3 choices on one plate. at red lobster. with hotels and vacation rentals, booking.com has something for everyone.
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that have taken place. joining us now, democratic strategist alicia cross, a former campaign adviser to president obama, and republican strategist malik abdul, who worked in the george w bush administration. thank you both for being here. malik, the republicans who are facing some of this pushback over doge aren't just in swing districts. some of these are deep red areas. how serious of a problem is this politically for the gop? >> well. >> anna, first of all, thank. >> you for. >> having me. >> so there. >> are a couple of things happening here. it is one thing for members of congress. >> i live. >> here in washington. >> d.c. >> and we only have one. non-voting member of congress. they don't have. >> answer to anyone in washington. >> d.c. >> but they do. >> have to answer. >> to their constituents at home. >> and i think what. >> you're probably. beginning to see, especially. >> as. >> we get closer to the. >> midterm, the. launch of. >> the midterm cycle. >> for next year, you will probably see, as the more people hear that maybe a neighbor, maybe someone at their church, because there's this assumption that federal.
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>> government jobs. >> are isolated to the. >> d.c, maryland. and virginia. >> area when most. >> federal jobs. >> are outside of this area. so i think that republicans are. >> going. >> to start hearing more, and they probably will then begin to pressure the. >> white house. >> to do something or intervene in some way, because their midterm elections. obviously are on the line when donald trump doesn't have to run again. >> yeah. right now, we aren't seeing that kind of pressure coming from the ground up. in fact, we were reporting at the end of last week that white house is not feeling under pressure whatsoever. but we have seen some comparisons to those town halls that got fiery back in 2009 that eventually led to the rise of the tea party. so how do you think democrats should harness this energy? >> i think democrats. >> should assist in the organizing. >> in the states. >> also, be. >> attentive to the fact that, to a point, malik made. actually over. 80% of federal. employment is outside of the. >> d.c. area, meaning that those individuals are employed in the state. when i. >> worked for the. >> epa, i.
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>> worked for the epa. >> region five. >> in the city of chicago. >> not in d.c. when we talk about the backbone of the middle class, the overwhelming majority is because. of government work and the fact that i think. >> most people have. >> to understand what government does. >> like, there's. >> this drain the swamp mentality from the republicans. there is this anti-system sentiment that exists across. >> voters of. >> multiple parties. but when you talk about this. >> outside of the system. >> itself, when you talk about what it does for your daily life, we're talking about things like head start and early learning for your children. we're talking about health care administration. we're talking about medicaid for individuals who are going to be affected there. we're talking about the everyday services. >> that. >> are provided by the government that will no longer be. >> able. >> to provide it. >> should this slash and dash of those continue to happen, i think the democrats have to message what it means in real terms for everyday people, but also go to where it hurts republicans. >> the most. the deep south. >> those individuals and those plus 18 republican districts are going to be the key to. >> actually seeing something. >> change, because midterms are just around the corner. and if those voters are losing
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essential services, if they're losing their lifelines, they're going to need somebody to blame and they're going to point to their districts, and those district leaders are going to need to try to save. >> themselves and to save themselves. they're going. >> to have to put forth an effort to stop what's going on right now. >> doge. >> elon musk is an unelected official. he's not worried about approval ratings, but guess who is. those republicans in those red districts. >> so the question is, are these constituents connecting when they're speaking out? malik, our nbc affiliate in philadelphia, talked to an irs worker who supported trump and was just fired. >> take a listen. >> i did. >> support him. >> i was a trump supporter. >> you know. >> when he talks about. >> government waste. >> and all that. >> yes, i'm behind it. i thought that someone with, like. >> his business. >> acumen would have. >> come in with. >> a fine tooth. >> comb and actually found. >> it instead. >> of coming in. >> with a wrecking. >> ball and destroying people's lives for no reason.
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>> and then you hear from republicans openly mocking people who are expressing concern about these cuts. here's ohio's jim jordan. >> i grabbed this. >> this headline, national parks in chaos after washington post story. here's the first paragraph. california national park a trump administration fired. >> the only locksmith. >> on staff. next sentence. he was fired. he was the sole employee with keys and institutional knowledge needed. >> to rescue. >> visitors from locked restrooms. now, if that isn't. i mean, that's. the best you can do. >> we just heard from that irs worker talking about lives being destroyed. malik. are republican leaders listening to their constituents? >> i think they're listening. but this is also part of the game that's played on television. you have to stick in your own corner. you can't give any ground on anything, because if you do, then the other side will use what you said against your side. so this is what you're seeing from politicians.
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this is an issue. and that's why i was mentioning earlier. it's not just federal government workers living in the dmv. you didn't hear jim jordan respond to a trump voter just like that person. and i think the more if media starts asking these specific things because the majority of americans agree when it comes to cutting waste, fraud and abuse wherever they find it, it is how they're going about it. and so you're hearing more and more people saying, what about the scaffold that you should take as opposed to the sledgehammer? so i get why republicans and many people, you know, if i were in the position maybe getting paid by the administration or something, i would say something differently. but the reality is, is that when we're at a time where eggs are 8.99, the same economic anxiety that led people to go to the polls in support of donald trump, it still exists. and if they're not hearing enough on the economy, where a lot of the focus is on die or people just losing jobs simply because they work in an industry that many republicans say, you don't have the right to be there. i think
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that the more members hear from their constituents, because it's still early midterm cycle hasn't even begun yet. but once we get into those summer months, i think we'll probably be having a different conversation, especially if elon musk is not gone after this 130 days or so that i believe a special government employee can serve. >> when it comes to the kitchen table. when it comes to the economy, i have to imagine unemployment is going to be an issue for the president posting on social media that he would like elon musk to be even more aggressive with his cuts. how do you think that would land? >> i think it's going to land. >> hard and trump. >> is going to fall flat. >> on his face. >> he believed. >> that by. putting elon. musk in front of doge and having them produce these massive cuts, circumventing. >> congress. >> that it would any instigation of upset would slide off of donald trump and direct itself. >> towards elon musk. >> and what he's finding in town hall. >> after. >> town hall. and i think as the months go on and as we get into that back to school cycle where parents are really finding it
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difficult to afford everyday items, in addition to, you know, his tariff plan. >> things are going to. >> get extremely difficult. trump rode the wave of saying that he had a great economy, saying that he had great business strength and he was going to be able to continue to, you know, mount jobs and access for people across this country. and a lot of americans bought. >> it. >> regardless of what side of the aisle they're on, they're discovering in real time that they are finding out right now that that was never his plan. when you elect oligarchs multi-billionaires, and they elect. or unelect. their cronies to be a part of this. speaking of doge, you get what you get. these are people to enrich themselves in their own wealth. off the backs of everyday working americans. >> the working class. >> is going to feel the crunch. many of them are going to be unemployed, many more are going to be underemployed, and several are not going to be able to afford the basic cost of living. welcome to the donald trump 2025 agenda. >> misha cross and malik abdul, thank you both for joining us. appreciate your time. up next here. >> on ana. >> cabrera reports prayers for pope francis, the leader of the catholic church in critical condition, battling pneumonia
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receiving treatment for double pneumonia and kidney issues. nbc's anne thompson joins us now at the vatican. also with us is pulmonologist and msnbc medical contributor doctor vin gupta. so, anne, what is the latest on the pope's condition this morning? >> well. >> vatican sources. >> tell us that the pope is awake. >> today, that. >> he is. eating and he is in good spirits. >> but as you say. >> he is still. >> in. critical condition. and because of that, he. >> is still receiving. >> treatment, particularly that oxygen therapy that. >> he needs. >> to help. >> him breathe. >> as he battles. >> both double double. >> pneumonia and. >> mild kidney failure. >> around the world this morning, prayers for pope francis. >> from outside the. >> hospital in rome. the hopes of many expressed in candles, balloons and messages at new york's saint patrick's cathedral. >> cardinal timothy dolan. >> saying out loud what.
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>> few have been willing to. >> say as our. >> holy father, pope. >> francis. >> is in very, very fragile health and probably close to death. >> dolan did. >> not say. >> where. >> he got his information. >> but later. >> told reporters he. >> hoped francis would recover in asia's east timor, where. >> the pope. >> visited last september. the faithful pray. >> at a cardboard. >> cutout of. >> the. >> pontiff, his face on the obelisk of his hometown. buenos aires, where. he was the. cardinal. francis, who never let age or. health issues slow him down, is. >> now. >> well into his. >> second week at gemelli hospital with chronic. lung disease, dating. back to when he lost part of a. >> lung as a young man. >> the pope's situation is described as complex. >> by the vatican. >> he had. >> a. prolonged respiratory crisis saturday, which required. >> supplemental oxygen, then. >> blood transfusions. >> because of a low platelet. >> count associated. >> with anemia. >> now, along with. double pneumonia. >> he. >> is dealing. >> with initial mild kidney.
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failure at. >> saint peter's square. >> the pope's health is top. >> of mind for. >> cousins amy, etan. >> and cathy gregory. >> well, we've. >> been praying. >> for his health. >> we do hope he recovers. >> and every time we. >> walk into a church, that's. >> what we're. >> praying for. i love. this pope. >> i feel like he's. >> really moved. >> the church forward. >> michigan's joe miter's. prayed for the pope. >> at mass. >> he's a. >> very. >> good man. >> he has a good heart. >> and those. >> prayers will continue. >> tonight to. >> be a rosary. >> service every night from now on. as long as. >> the pope. >> is hospitalized here in saint peter's square. >> it will be. >> led by the cardinals. >> of. >> rome. >> and the. >> first cardinal. >> to lead that. service will be vatican secretary of state cardinal parolin. anna. >> anne thompson, thank you for bringing us that report. doctor gupta. pope francis, we know is still on oxygen, but reportedly alert he's able to eat after a peaceful night. what do these few details tell you?
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>> it encourages me on it. >> i will. >> say people that develop. >> pneumonia. >> what we really. >> look for. >> is. >> are they awake? are they alert? are they. >> able. to get. >> out of. >> the. >> bed to the chair, which i understand. >> over the weekend we were passing through some of. >> the reports. >> from. >> the vatican. >> he's able. >> to do. >> those are all. >> really good signs, i should say. >> for your viewers. >> out there. sometimes things get. >> worse before. >> they get better. >> the need for high. >> flow oxygen, higher concentration and higher pressures into. >> the lungs. >> sometimes that's. necessary and things will get worse. and he has underlying lung disease. so this is not surprising. but i'm encouraged. >> but he's also suffering an issue with his kidneys. how how does that fit into the picture here. >> so i. >> piecing this together. >> and recognizing i don't have all the data. what i would say. >> is. >> he probably has a severe pneumonia given the need for high flow oxygen. >> likely has what we call sepsis. >> so that. means his body is in an. inflammatory state and so on. >> you know, typically. >> we'll see anybody in the. >> icu or if you.
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already asked for a budget reminder. smart. >> i got it. >> got it. boss. otter. >> you got this. >> welcome back. we have. our eyes on the white house this morning. where? just moments ago, we saw french president emmanuel macron leaving the white house after participating in a call with president trump and g7 allies this morning. likely a major focus of that conversation. the war in ukraine. we could learn more when we see him back at the white house with president trump around noon. so stay with msnbc for that. now, today marks three years since russia invaded
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ukraine, sparking europe's largest conflict since world war two. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy is spending the day surrounded by allies. but a representative from the us, which has long been the biggest supporter, is notably absent. president trump and his administration have pushed a dramatic shift in us policy toward ukraine, threatening to cut off u.s. support and falsely blaming ukraine for the start of the war. and now, zelenskyy says he's willing to step aside if that could mean peace. nbc's richard engel is in ukraine. >> three years. >> ago this morning, russian. >> president vladimir putin. >> ordered his troops. >> to invade ukraine. >> and he isn't. >> letting up. launching nearly 200 drones overnight. >> but now. >> pressure is coming from president trump, too. >> trump is demanding ukraine accept a. deal in which income from its natural. >> resources would. >> be diverted. into a huge american controlled fund.
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>> i want them to give us something for all of the money that we put up. so we're asking for rare earth and oil, anything we can get. >> zelenskyy said trump's. >> price $500. >> billion four times the. value of. >> aid committed. >> by the. >> united states so far, is. >> too high. >> and comes. >> without american security guarantees to protect ukraine from a future russian attack. >> i'm not signing something that. >> ten generations of ukrainians will be paying off, he said. >> it feels. >> like strong. >> arm tactics to many. >> ukrainians, who were. >> deeply offended when president. >> trump blamed them. >> for launching. >> the war. instead of criticizing russia, whose troops have been accused. >> of mass. >> rape and other war. >> crimes. >> olena avilova lost her son. >> andrey to a russian mortar attack. >> she opened a coffee shop in kharkiv to honor him and others. >> who died. >> in his unit. >> oh no. >> this place is an.
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>> extension of his life, she says. >> what do you think should happen now? >> after three. >> years of war. >> we dream that the war. >> ends, she says. our children died not because we're bad people, but because our. >> neighbor wants our territory. >> and richard is joining us now from kharkiv. richard, so important to highlight individual stories there to give us perspective. you've been on the ground for so much in the last three years. you say the resolve hasn't changed. >> the resolve hasn't changed, but the entire political dynamic and certainly the relationship with the united states has changed profoundly when this country was invaded. it started just after 5:00 in the morning three years ago. i was in ukraine at the time. there was a feeling, a belief that ukraine wouldn't be able to last. >> that. >> it would be quickly overrun. >> by by. >> russian forces. and the ukrainians hung in and president zelensky stayed in the country.
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>> and the. >> united states quickly came to ukraine's. >> defense. >> as did europe. >> and a coalition was formed. and if you remember, all around the world, people were hanging ukrainian flags and they were charity events to try and help ukraine stand up to russia. well, just over the last month since president trump came to the office, came into into the white house, there is a sense here that the flip. >> is that. >> the script has been flipped, that president president trump is no longer a real supporter of ukraine. and ukrainians themselves are looking at what the trump. administration is proposing, and they are watching the statements not just coming from president trump, but his cabinet. and from from from here in ukraine. and it looks like what. >> the trump administration. >> wants and expects and demands. is that. ukraine give up around 20% of its territory to russia and get nothing in exchange from russia except. >> vague promises. >> that perhaps russia might
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stop attacking temporarily. and in addition to giving up. >> the. >> 20% of land to russia, that ukraine would also have to give $500 billion to the united states and effectively get nothing in exchange for either one of these, no security guarantees for the half trillion dollar spent to committed to the united states, and nothing in exchange for giving up a fifth of this country to russia. so from from ukraine, it feels like compared to where they were three years ago, the united states has backed. >> out of their corner. >> and we know that russia has made those inroads even as this fighting continues in terms of taking over more and more territory inside ukraine currently. richard engel, thank you for the latest. and joining us now is kira rudik, who is a member of ukraine's parliament and leader of the country's pro-european voice party. thanks so much for being here. three years into this war, support from the us government slipping. what do you see as the best possible outcome for the
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ukrainian people? what's realistic? hello anna, and thank you so much for having me. well, for us, realistic is to get the security guarantees that will bring to our. >> people peace. >> with the promise that russia would not attack us again. this is our main goal right now. and with all. those talks, about 500 billion about us funds, about talks, we do not hear one thing. what are the security guarantees? how do you make sure that russia would not attack us again. and that's a baseline for any kind of negotiation, settlement, anything that would be happening. >> in the. future. we have. >> been in this situation already. in 2014, we had so-called ceasefire with russia and look where it got us. so right now. we are at better. situation than we were three years ago, three years ago. we
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didn't have people behind our back. three years ago, we knew that if we will have to. >> fight, we will. >> fight and we will. >> probably do that alone. >> so the fact that. >> we are still here is for two reasons. >> the first is. >> brave men and women of ukraine who are fighting at the. front line, and. >> second is. >> brave men and women of the free world who are standing with us, who were supporting us through their governments. so my question is, did the. position of the united states american people, did their position. change accordingly towards ukraine? >> i do not believe that. >> so we hope that the representation of the united states will. >> continue. >> continue supporting the country that is fighting. >> for the. >> independence, for the. >> american values. >> about freedom, about controlling your own. >> future. >> being able to. decide your. >> own fate. >> president zelenskyy says that he's willing to give up the presidency if it means peace for ukraine or nato membership. what
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do you think about that idea? i know the truth is many of us in ukrainian parliament would have given up our positions or more. and of course, we support. >> what. >> president zelenskyy said, that we will give away so much. >> if that. >> would mean that our country will get a chance at just peace. if that would mean that our. country will get. protection as. >> it. >> needs, and our people will get safety as they deserve. but unfortunately. >> that's not. >> what on the table, right? nobody is asking president zelenskyy to resign in exchange for the security. >> unfortunately. >> the ask was for. ukraine to have elections, which is completely different. and again, it's coming without the security guarantees. the difficulty with having. >> the. >> elections during the war time is. >> ensuring people's. security and ensuring that our army is able to participate in the
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democracy, and we do not have any good way of doing that without again giving up to russia. kira rudik, thank you very much for being part of the conversation and sharing the ukrainian perspective on all of this. thank you. next, ana cabrera reports. it is been called the new ellis island. new york city's mayor orders the iconic roosevelt hotel, a major migrant center, to be shuttered. the impact that could have on thousands. and later, why an american airlines flight was diverted from india to italy and required a fighter jet escort. >> repairs. >> sadly. windshield chips can turn into windshield cracks. but at least you can go to safe flight.com and schedule a fix in minutes. sweet safe flight can come to you for free. and our highly trained techs can replace your windshield right at your
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of more than 230,000 migrants. 173,000 of them. >> were. processed here at the. roosevelt hotel. >> and in recent days, though, that number has gone down dramatically. just 350 migrants intake here per week that according to the city. eric adams, calling the closure of the center a, quote, milestone. take a listen. >> while we're not done caring for those who came into our care. today marks another milestone in demonstrating. >> the immense. >> progress we have achieved in turning the corner on the unprecedented international humanitarian effort. >> the roosevelt. >> hotel is also controversial. >> it is the reason. >> that the trump. >> administration has cited criminal. >> and gang activity, alleged criminal. >> and. >> gang activity surrounding the hotel. the reason that the trump
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administration cites for seizing some $80 million from the city's bank accounts in recent days. eric adams, the mayor, as well as on behalf of the city, filing. >> a lawsuit. >> against the federal government to have those funds returned. the city comptroller putting out a scathing statement saying. >> that. >> they. were pushing for the returns of those funds, in the words of the city comptroller, saying that they had been provided by fema for asylum seeking purposes and that they were stolen. saying that, he pushed eric adams to file that lawsuit against the federal government. >> donna karan. >> mclaughlin. >> appreciate that reporting. thank you. and now we have some breaking news. just a huge loss in the music world. r&b and pop legend roberta flack died today at the age of 88. flack rose to stardom in the 70s with hits including the first time ever, i saw your face and killing me softly with his song. both went on to win grammys. a statement from flack's rep says she died peacefully surrounded by her
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raf, tell us more about this significance of this and how it's being viewed across europe. >> so, ana, this political earthquake for germany and for europe. 1 in 5 german voters last night casting their ballots for the far right alternative for germany, known as the afd. as you said, this is by far their best result since the second world war. they more than doubled their vote since the last election. and this is a party that, despite downplaying the holocaust, some of its extreme members talking about stripping citizenship away from germans who have foreign heritage, went into this election with the explicit backing of elon musk, the world's richest man. musk tweeting earlier today he believes the afd is on course to win the next election. now, as you said, they only came second in this race. this election was won by the moderate conservatives, the christian democrats. they will lead the next government. their leader, the next chancellor of germany. just minutes after the exit
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polls gave a stark assessment of the crisis and the relationship between the united states and its european allies, he said, it is very clear the trump administration does not care about europe. he says he does not know whether nato will survive in its current form, and he says that his top priority will be strengthening europe so that it can launch an independent path from the united states. this is the leader of europe's biggest economy, key nato ally, speaking in these very, very stark terms. >> anna sanchez there in berlin. thank you. that does it for us today. we'll see you back here tomorrow. thanks so much for joining us. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage now. >> good morning. 11 a.m. >> eastern, 8. >> a.m. pacific. >> i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin this. >> hour in ukraine, where today. >> marks three years. >> since russia launched the full scale invasion. and a
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