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instantly when you transfer to dave checking. >> download the dave app today. >> do it. >> right now. >> on anna cabrera reports take two. elon musk. >> issues his second ultimatum to federal employees. >> prove your. >> worth or. head for. >> the door. >> we're live on capitol hill. >> where fired federal workers are expected. >> to protest this hour. plus,
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speaker mike johnson. >> asking for prayers. >> as he. >> looks to pass president trump's budget plan. >> could hold. >> out in the. gop doomed the deal. >> also ahead. >> the growing divide between the us. >> and europe. >> over condemning and blaming russia. >> for its invasion. >> of ukraine. and your breakfast plans scrambled. >> the latest chain to add a surcharge to meals with eggs. good morning. >> thanks for. >> joining us at 10:00. >> eastern. >> 7:00 pacific. >> i'm ana. >> cabrera. >> reporting from new york. >> another busy day. we begin on. >> capitol hill this. morning where fired federal workers are expected. >> to stage a sit in against doj's indiscriminate. >> slash and. >> burn. >> as elon musk gives millions. of federal employees a. second ultimatum explain your. >> work, or else. >> musk's first midnight deadline came and went with trump loyalists at several federal agencies. telling their folks not to respond. let's go
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to capitol hill and nbc's ryan nobles and at the white house. >> aaron gilchrist. >> tracking the latest with president. >> trump and elon musk. ryan, we're expecting this protest on the hill this hour. and it comes as. republicans are finding themselves under pressure to respond to these cuts. what are. >> you hearing? >> yeah. >> and i think it's not. >> just. >> the cuts. >> themselves. >> but the. >> form and. >> fashion that. >> these cuts are. >> manifesting themselves under. >> elon musk and his department of. >> government efficiency. >> we're now starting. >> to. >> see republicans in both the house and. senate raise concerns. about the fashion in which musk is going about these cuts, how intermittent they are, how haphazard they are, and how there's not a ton of. clarity for these federal government workers. >> about what the. >> next. >> steps in this process. >> will be. >> there's, of course, the separation, the. >> voluntary separation. >> program, which a lot of federal government workers don't have a lot of faith in. >> there is the. >> possibility that. >> if they. >> don't respond to this email. >> that they could be fired and that. they're getting kind of. >> contradictory information. >> from some of their cabinet leaders. >> as to. >> whether or not they should
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even respond to those emails. i caught up. yesterday with alaska. >> senator lisa murkowski. >> her state has the. >> third most. >> federal workers per capita. >> and she. >> said that. >> she's very. >> unhappy with. >> the way that this process has played. >> itself out. listen to what. >> she said. >> just a little bit of. >> of. >> humanity and. >> dignity to the process, i think, is what many of the alaskan federal. >> employees are asking. >> for when. the executive basically blows. >> by congress. >> or rolls right over congress, and we allow. that we're ceding our responsibility. >> and so what murkowski is. >> saying there is. that it's up to. >> members of congress. specifically republican members of congress, to. >> stand up to the. >> trump administration. >> and tell them. >> that they are unhappy with how this. >> process is playing itself out. >> and ana murkowski said that. >> she's. >> in favor. of making the government more efficient. >> she's even. >> in favor. >> of possibly. >> reducing the. >> size of. >> the. federal workforce. but she said the form and fashion in
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which that plays itself out has. got to be dramatically different from the way it's playing out right now, and. >> we're going. >> to see that manifest itself here on capitol hill, as these federal. >> workers are. >> going to come. and sit. >> in in the senate office buildings. >> to. >> make their voices heard. whether or not that resonates with elon musk and donald trump is. >> something that we're going to have to wait and see. >> so, erin, we. >> are now. past musk's. >> original deadline. >> where does. >> this demand to federal employees. >> stand. >> and does musk still. >> have the. >> full support of the president? >> well, let me take the less confusing part of that question first. and that. is president trump. yes, elon musk does still have the president's support. the president in the oval office yesterday said that he thought the. email that went out to federal employees on saturday was genius. i want you to hear a little bit more. >> of the. >> president's response when he was asked about this request that seemed. >> to. >> come from opm to federal workers over the weekend. listen. >> i thought it was great because we have people that don't show up to work and nobody even knows if they work for the
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government. so by asking the question, tell us what you did this week. what he's doing is saying, are you actually working? and then if you don't answer like you're sort of semi fired or you're fired because a lot of people are not answering because they don't even exist. >> so the confusing part of this is that there seem. >> to be efforts. >> from different agencies to try to clarify what was required and. >> what was. >> not required. as a result of. >> that. >> email, we heard from some agencies yesterday that they got direction from opm. that said, essentially responding. >> to the email. >> was voluntary and that there would. not be any. resignations or. not responding to the email would not qualify. >> as a. >> resignation from any positions within the federal government. of course, we saw elon musk post on social media that, and this was about a 15. >> minute. >> time period last night, first saying that the. email request over the weekend was just was trivial, that it was an inane test. and then a few minutes later, he said that it was
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possible that president trump could ask people again to submit those same sorts of responses. and if they didn't do that, then it would qualify as a resignation. but again, we saw agencies and department heads say that they make the hiring and firing decisions within. >> their individual. >> agencies, which again seem to go against what was coming from elon musk and that email from opm, ana. >> erin gilchrist and ryan nobles. guys, thank you for that reporting. keep us posted on new developments. and joining us now is democratic congressman adam smith of washington state, the ranking member of the armed services committee. >> congressman, we. >> appreciate you taking the time. >> you. >> posted on social media this trump is moving in a fascist direction, and we. >> need to. >> stop him. you write, how do you do that as a democrat, a democrat, when the republican party controls the white. >> house. >> the house and the senate? >> well, the first. >> thing you do is you be very clear about. >> the message and try to convince the american people of it. we have to persuade people to agree with us.
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>> and you. >> saw lisa murkowski. making her comments. you heard other republicans expressing concerns. if we. >> identify what. >> trump and musk. >> are doing. >> as what it is. >> which is basically trying to smash the federal government. so that they can have. greater power and control. this is nothing to do with efficiency and effectiveness. you line up 100 ceos in the country and. >> say, is this. >> the way you'd run your business if you wanted to make it more. efficient and effective? >> absolutely. zero would say yes. >> this is about trump and musk creating a situation where they have the power to do whatever they want to do, whenever they want to do it, without any checks on that power. call it what it is and build support in the country against it. and then also. >> sue. >> which we have been doing, use the courts to block the illegal actions that they're taking. >> but this is. >> a basic messaging campaign. we've got to get our message out aggressively so that we can get more people to agree. with us. and also, i think we have to build up credibility amongst the democratic party. a lot of people have concerns about the democratic party. a bunch of issues build our credibility,
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identify what musk and trump are doing. >> for what it is. >> and build support. >> that's how. >> you push back. >> in the first trump term, we saw this huge resistance movement that really hasn't materialized in the same massive. >> way, at least. >> this time around. do you expect a capitol hill. sit in protest like we're expecting today. >> can move. >> the needle? is that enough pressure on this administration to, i guess, recalibrate? >> yeah. no. >> no. >> one thing. is enough. >> and i think that's part of the problem. look, there's a certain sense of exhaustion. i mean, we've been fighting trump for five years now, trying trying to stop this from happening. and people are trying to figure out what's going to work. >> and i. >> also think people are like like you said, it's like, well, i'm going to protest. i'm going to do no one thing is going to turn this around. it has to. >> be a. >> series of collective actions and individual actions, and there has to be a fierce desire to get that out, but also not a feeling of, oh my gosh, if we haven't solved the problem by
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tomorrow, what's the point? you have to keep at it and do a variety of different things to draw attention to this. and one good example, the budget resolution that's on the floor today. republicans make two arguments for the idiocy of what they're doing with our federal workforce. one oh, we got to be more efficient and more effective. as i just. >> said. >> the way they're doing it is the exact opposite of that. and second, they give impassioned pleas about the debt and the deficit. my gosh, i know it's a little chaotic, but goodness, we have to get this under control because the debt and the deficit are just so bad. and today they're planning on voting for a budget resolution that is going. >> to increase. >> the debt by $2 trillion over the next decade. >> this is an absolute. >> lie that. >> donald trump is. >> telling to the american people. call them out on that lie and begin to build. support to push back. >> well, i have to wonder. we're going to talk about the budget later in the show. >> the bill. >> that is up for a vote today. i do wonder, though. >> what the. >> american people really care about. if they if they care more about the tax cuts that would
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balloon the deficit, or if they care about a balanced budget. but that's a different conversation coming back to what we're seeing with doge and the millions of people. who have now lost jobs because of this slash and burn strategy. we are. >> reporting. >> some republicans are now planning to raise these doge concerns during a meeting with president trump today, when the entire sophomore gop class will be at the white house. >> congressman rich. >> mccormick of georgia, who had quite the earful at some of his town halls we've covered. in the last few days, he told nbc news this the question is, do we give people time to adjust to their lives? and i think. >> that's my biggest. >> concern is that we're being compassionate. how do you respond to that? >> look. >> the biggest. >> thing. >> republicans in. >> congress need to start being. less pathetic. i mean, that's where we need to start. they have turned the entire government over to the cult of personality that is donald trump and to some extent, elon musk. they have completely abdicated any responsibility because they are deathly afraid. >> of.
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>> saying anything that donald trump doesn't. >> want to hear. they need. >> to change that. and i'm glad congressman mccormick put out that mild little statement. but republicans need to stand up for. this institution. they need to stand up for representative. democracy and say, no, donald trump is not a king. >> we have. >> a system of government, and we in congress have a profound. responsibility to exercise our. >> authority as a. >> check on that power. if we don't agree with things that trump is doing, we need to. say it and push back against it. i can't tell you the number of republicans that i talked to when they completely shut down usaid. i am the co-chair of the caucus for effective foreign assistance. i've worked with republicans for 15 years to make foreign assistance more effective. i went to my colleagues on that and said, hey, completely shutting it down, not making it more effective. >> oh, you're right. >> yeah, that is a problem. okay. what are you going to do about it? well, nothing. so we have to put that pressure on republicans in congress. and i'll end where i started. they have to start being less pathetic and start standing up for their constituents, for the
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country and for the constitution. >> i should. >> clarify that we. >> don't know how. many people have lost their jobs. there are millions of federal workers. >> who could. >> lose their jobs, but there has been a lack of transparency with doge. >> it's impossible. >> to know how many have lost jobs, how much money is actually being saved. doge just launched what they are calling this agency efficiency leaderboard and list the estimated savings. so far, it has claimed to have saved about $65 billion, but there are numerous discrepancies in the numbers, and that is. >> far less. >> than the at least 2 trillion in savings musk had originally promised. >> are there ways. >> that you think doge could actually be effective in saving taxpayers money? >> not the way it's. set up. and understand that that's not the point. what i keep saying is musk and trump want to smash the federal government so that it is weaker, and it doesn't get in the way of what they want to do. okay. that's the only. well, that's exactly what they're doing. it's the only explanation for the way they're doing it. they're not trying to make it more efficient and more effective. look, when this thing was first set up, you know, i,
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the ranking member of the house armed services committee, i'm deeply concerned about the way the pentagon does acquisition and procurement. i don't think they're doing it efficiently. and i saw the way elon musk set up spacex, you know, going through requirements, getting to better results. i thought, hey, this is something we could do. so, so i met with them. but that's not what they're trying to do. look, the federal workforce hasn't grown in 40 years. when you look at what's inefficient and ineffective about the federal government, the size of the. workforce is not it? and i'm talking real numbers. i'm not talking adjusted for inflation or population growth. the federal. workforce has been flat for 40 years. that's not the reason that government isn't as efficient and effective as it should be. and it's also not the focus of musk and trump. the focus is to smash our federal government so that they individually have more power, and it is time we call them out on that and stand up against it. >> congressman adam smith, appreciate you. >> joining us. >> thanks so much. >> thanks for the. >> time next. prayers for mike. >> johnson.
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wrapped up their weekly caucus meeting. johnson's expected to speak at any moment now. we'll continue to. monitor that. he has just hours left to get his conference behind his budget package before a planned vote today. and as far as we know, there are two major sticking points conservatives who want steeper spending. cuts and centrists who want to protect medicaid. and if every member votes. johnson can only afford to lose one republican. let's bring in nbc news capitol hill correspondent julie. sirkin and msnbc political analyst brendan buck, a former top aide to speaker paul ryan and john boehner. first to julie. speaker johnson asked for prayers yesterday. julie, as he got ready to move this package to the floor. and so how are things looking for him now after this caucus meeting? do we know. >> if he needed prayers yesterday, today? he definitely. >> needs a hail mary because. >> i was just outside. >> of that republican caucus
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meeting. >> and as members were trickling out, it really isn't looking that great for johnson. on one hand, i spoke to a moderate member from new york, congressman lawler, who told me. >> that today is. >> just the. >> first step. >> in a long process. he blamed. democrats for trying to. >> paint this vote. >> today as an immediate. endorsement of cuts to medicaid and medicare. >> and snap food stamp benefits. of course, things. >> that his. constituents rely on. so he is a yes. i thought that was good news for johnson. but then on the flip side, i got a text. >> from congresswoman. >> victoria spartz who told me. >> that she is a no in all caps on this bill. this is, of course, the more conservative faction of the republican conference. in addition to. >> spartz. >> you have warren davidson and a couple of others. >> who are. >> hard nosed. and remember, speaker johnson can only. >> afford to lose one. >> republican to pass this budget resolution tonight. it would, of course, be part of trump's grand plans of one big, beautiful bill. it would fund his deportation plans, his border security plans, energy and military, and also, of course, extend those 2017 tax
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cuts. johnson being squeezed from all sides here. >> and so, julie, is there anybody else you're. >> keeping an. >> eye on? i mean, if he is if he. loses spartz who has already told you she's a hard no. who else you know could be teetering on the brink? well. there's a. >> couple of. >> members teetering on the brink. you have eli crane, who was posting on x about this bill, saying that they need more cuts to the deficit. that's really the problem here. and you laid it out in your intro so well, anna, is that johnson like we've seen in years past with even kevin mccarthy, is wrangling people who have completely different opinions, completely different constituencies. and he needs to make sure that they all fall in line to get this budget resolution across the finish line. you have a group of republicans who are heading to the white house today to protest those cuts that we've been seeing again, that is also dictating the cuts that republicans want to make as part of this budget resolution. they are not spelling out the fact that they will be touching medicare or medicaid or any of these programs. we heard the president say that is not something he wants to do. but then how do you achieve those $2 trillion in cuts? there really is no way that the math maths on
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this one. and so we will see in a couple of moments if johnson still moves forward on holding that vote tonight or not. >> okay. we'll keep an. >> eye on. >> his remarks expected. any moment. and i know. >> you are going to continue. >> to work your contacts there on the hill. thank you. julie. >> brendan. >> this is the first big test for. >> speaker johnson. >> in trump's administration. if he. >> can't get a. win here. >> when republicans control the white house and congress. >> where does. >> that leave his speakership? and are we looking at a government shutdown? >> mike johnson has invested. >> a. lot of. >> capital, not just with his conference, but with donald. trump promising that he could move forward with this one bill approach, that everything in trump's agenda can be jammed into one bill. and i will. >> say. >> this. >> even if the. >> house. >> manages to. resolve some of these differences among themselves and pass it today. we're a very long way from actually getting an. outcome on this. this is really. >> just a. >> procedural step. but the. substance is julie laid. out is really important. you have conservatives who are unhappy
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that you're not doing more than nearly $1 trillion in cuts to medicaid. i can tell you right now that's going to go down really tough. >> in the senate. >> senators who have to worry about entire states, states like west virginia, where there is a lot of people on medicaid, are going to have a hard time with that. >> so even if the. >> house gets through this, mike johnson will have. >> a. >> very short victory here, because. >> soon you're going to have to resolve that. >> with the senate. and i think that's going to be a big problem. now, i don't know if this is going to lead to a government shutdown. those are sort of parallel tracks. this is, i think, distracting a little bit from the government funding deadline that's coming up. but you're right. mike johnson i think will lose a lot. of standing. >> if he can't pull this off in. >> the next week. >> or two. >> congressman smith, i was. >> just speaking with. >> brought up the fact that the republican party has. >> hailed itself as fiscally responsible. >> but while this budget. >> has trillions in spending cuts, it also. calls for up to 4.5 trillion in deficits through tax cuts. so at the end of the day, my big question is what wins out for republicans the tax
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cuts or balancing the budget? >> well, i think it's important to. >> appreciate that. >> the tax cut. >> number is really. >> just. to preserve. >> the current tax rates. we're not talking you know, donald trump is throwing out a few things about no taxes on tips and no taxes on social security. i don't know how real those are, but we're not talking about cutting taxes any further than they. already are right now. >> there's just a cost. >> associated with that. and you have a lot of conservatives who say, this. >> is the. >> one time when we are all together. >> united. >> unified government, we have a real debt crisis. if not now, when are we going to do big spending cuts? you probably. >> can't. >> get to $4 trillion without touching some mandatory programs that i think are really important. this is, i think, where the real issue is. >> they say. >> they want to balance the budget. donald trump says he wants to balance the budget, but they're. >> also saying they're. >> not. >> going to touch medicare. they're not. going to touch social security. >> they're going to increase. >> funding for defense. that only leaves medicaid. and there, frankly, isn't enough medicaid, even if you wanted to eliminate it to balance the budget. and so the math just doesn't add up. and i wish some of them would be
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a little more honest about that. but, you know, when you have a closer, i guess on third rail politics, you're just not going to address those things. and so we talk about balancing the budget, but nobody's actually doing anything serious about it. >> brendan buck got to leave it there for now. thank you. we'll stay on. top of. >> the latest. >> on this budget fight. up next on ana cabrera reports more on the legal fight against elon musk. we'll talk to a lawyer battling d.o.j. on behalf of fired federal workers. plus, the scramble for eggs just got a little more pricey as one restaurant chain eyes a price restaurant chain eyes a price hike. i never thought i would develop shingles. i was wrong. i didn't know that 99% of people over 50 already have the virus that causes shingles and it could reactivate. don't learn the hard way, like i did. talk to your healthcare provider today. the best moments deserve the best eggs. especially when they're eggland's best. taste so deliciously fresh. with better nutrition, too. we love our eggs any style. as long as they're the best.
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supreme court decision on a controversial death penalty case. let's bring in msnbc's lisa rubin. lisa, take us through this ruling. >> ana. >> this is an extremely. >> tortured case in terms of. its history. >> but. >> also in terms of the. >> facts here. >> this case. concerns the. >> conviction of a man named. >> richard glossip. >> in oklahoma. >> he was convicted of. >> paying someone. >> else to. >> murder his boss in an oklahoma hotel. he has been on. >> oklahoma's death. >> row since 1998. ultimately. >> there. >> was evidence. >> discovered that showed that his codefendant, someone. who actually. >> did commit the. >> murder, had. >> lied on. >> the stand. >> both about. >> the. >> fact. >> that he. was taking lithium for bipolar disorder. >> and that he was seeing a psychiatrist. >> he also had changed. >> his testimony.
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>> about how. >> he. >> committed the murder. >> and provided inconsistent. >> testimony as to his motives. >> today, the. >> supreme court is. finding that the conviction. >> must be vacated and. >> a new. >> trial can be had. >> on the. >> grounds that it is a constitutional violation for prosecutors to support a knowing conviction. >> when it is. >> based on false evidence. one of the things that turned this case around is that the oklahoma attorney general actually. stood behind glossips bid for post-conviction relief, saying based on evidence that was belatedly discovered and not shared with the defense, there was no way that the attorney general should have or could have supported this conviction. so a very long and tortured path to the vacate, the vacating of this conviction for mr. glossip? >> yeah. >> more than 20 years. >> nearing 30 years since this conviction, a new trial expected now in the richard glossip death penalty case. thank you so much for bringing us all of that. and now to other news. we're following in washington this hour, new lawsuits and new
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confusion over the trump administration's mass layoffs. a former veterans affairs employee has now sued after being fired for poor performance. while she argues as a nearly 20 year staffer there, she did not qualify as a probationary employee and was never told her performance was unsatisfactory. another lawsuit against the office of personnel management was already working its way through the courts, but elon musks ultimatum that workers list their recent accomplishments or be fired has now added a new layer to that case. and one of the plaintiffs attorneys is joining us now, norm eisen, the chair of the state democracy defenders fund. he's also a former special assistant to president obama. norm. elon musk says this email request to federal workers was utterly trivial. in a statement. on behalf of the plaintiffs, you. >> say this. >> the patronizing demand that federal workers still on the job have to justify themselves by enumerating five accomplishments just adds insult to injury. that, too, is against the law.
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>> so what's your. >> reaction. >> to musk. >> calling it trivial? >> anna it's. >> anything but trivial. it's the latest sally in a sustained. attack that we. contend in a series. >> of. >> lawsuits that we've. >> worked on with our wonderful partners in the labor. movement and others, a series. >> of lawsuits. >> that show a. >> violation of. >> the constitution. and laws time and time again. by the musk headed. >> doge, by. >> donald trump. >> and. >> the trump administration. >> you're not able to fire probationary. >> employees. >> also in this lawsuit. thousands of them. without following proper procedures, or send them letters saying they're. fired for perform letters saying they're. fired
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for performance reason reasons when there's. >> no such. >> thing so broad illegality, anything but trivial. we say it's the latest thing against the law. >> and. >> i'm hoping that you. >> can help set. >> us straight. >> because this has become a moving target. you have this initial opm email demand on saturday. >> they backtrack. >> then they say responses are voluntary. and then last night, musk tweets that workers who didn't respond will be given another chance, and failure to respond a second time will result in termination. senator murkowski brought up some concerns that this isn't happening through the proper chain. so what is that proper chain? do cabinet department leads have the authority to just ignore doge? >> anna? it's the. way we've done it in. >> our country for two and a half centuries. >> congress passes. >> the law, the executive. branch implements them. this kind of. >> thing does. >> have. >> to go. >> through cabinet heads. >> elon musk can't just tweet. that's not the law. nobody. it's
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against the administrative procedures act. and he has not been appointed. that's a violation of the constitution. anybody with this power under the constitution has to be confirmed by the senate. that hasn't happened. so it's. >> a gigantic. >> legal mess. and that's why the courts keep entering orders saying. stop this. >> so how long. >> till all this is resolved? because like you point out, there's now so many cases. >> that. >> have trickled all the way up. through different levels. of courts, and there's no resolution. >> well. i there. >> was an attempt at shock and awe. campaign by donald trump, elon musk and doge to take over the. >> government and. >> bend it to their will. >> that's failed. >> because all. >> of these. >> court orders. >> and cases have. >> have. >> put a stop to it. they haven't. >> been. >> able to accomplish. that
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objective. >> so it's. >> not the beginning of. the end. >> it may be the end of the beginning on now we'll move into another phase. congress is starting to get into the act because they're hearing at town halls from outraged constituents who don't like the chaos, don't like the cutting of those who protect our nuclear stockpiles. those who keep the planes in the air and keep the bird flu under control. firefighters in our national forests. so it's having a terrible impact. this wrecking ball. and congress and the american people are now starting to get. very agitated. >> norm eisen, appreciate you joining us. >> thank you very much. >> thanks, ana. >> next on ana. >> cabrera reports, we are at the vatican with an update on the pope's longest hospital stay as he battles kidney and lung problems. plus, is the old order
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that's not okay. it doesn't feel like that in our hearts. i mean, it's worrisome. [dog barks] already asked for a budget reminder. smart. got it, got it. boss. otter, you got this. >> welcome back. >> pope francis. >> is alert and moving about. >> this morning. >> the vatican says the 88 year old leader of the catholic church is showing slight improvements in his hospital room as he's treated for double pneumonia. joining us now, nbc
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news correspondent anne thompson at the vatican. and what more do we know about how the pope is doing and his prognosis? >> anna. we know that he is continuing. >> treatment this. >> morning as. >> he deals with. >> the affairs. >> of state. >> the 88 year old is said to be showing. some slight improvement. >> as he is now in the longest. >> hospital stay of his papacy. >> this morning, pope francis is up and a vatican source says out of bed after a full night of rest, though he remains. >> in critical. condition with double pneumonia. >> the vatican. >> says the pope was able to do some. >> work monday, including his nightly call to the catholic church in gaza. he also met with his secretary of state. >> fueling the. cautious optimism this morning. >> doctors say francis mild kidney failure is no longer a concern. and while he continues to get supplemental oxygen, the levels are reduced. prayers for
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the pontiff intensifying in saint peter's square. the cardinals of rome. >> led the first. >> nightly rosary for the pope in the crowd. >> minnesota college student sarah schmidt's and kellen orti. >> that is in. >> poor health right now. and we want to do our part and give strength to him spiritually. >> coming together with a lot of other people who are here. >> to do the same thing. so i feel like it's more powerful. >> in his. native buenos aires. a mass for the recovery of the. argentinian pope. francisco at the white house. president trump and french president macron. >> you have a message for pope francis, sir. >> sending francis good wishes. >> very serious. situation for him. >> well. >> they are. >> outside the. >> rome hospital. >> a vigil. >> for francis. no prognosis from the doctors this morning. but these people have faith.
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>> now. >> as we. >> read the tea leaves. >> here at the vatican. >> a couple of. things to note. first of all. >> he met with. >> people yesterday. >> so there are. observers who say. that's a good sign because. >> that's. >> the first. >> time that. >> that has happened. >> also, in that meeting with his secretary. >> of state. >> he talked. >> about a future. >> meeting of cardinals to talk about future saints. so the pope is clearly looking. >> forward as he tries. >> to recover from this double pneumonia. but again, his he is still in critical condition. >> the doctors. >> have not released any prognosis, and he is an 88 year old man with a lung infection and now all or a chronic lung issue. and now you have all these problems on top of it. so that's the story from here, anna. >> some good news, but a delicate situation still. >> anne thompson. >> thank you. >> very. >> very much. so. >> now to the white house's growing divide with u.s. allies over president trump's shift on
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the ukraine war. the u.s. continuing that tack towards russia by voting against a un resolution condemning russia for the war and calling for the immediate withdrawal of russian troops. that vote on the third anniversary of russia's invasion found the u.s. aligned with russia and north korea, and against european allies. on the same day, president trump held white house meetings with french president emmanuel macron. joining us now is sam vinograd, former assistant secretary for counterterrorism at the. >> department of. >> homeland security. sam. >> great to have you. >> join us. the un resolution, which the u.s. voted against, condemned russian aggression. it called for russia to immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw all of its military forces from ukraine's internationally recognized borders and demanded an immediate cessation of the hostilities against ukraine, in particular of attacks against civilians. again, the u.s. voting against it alongside
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countries like russia and north korea. what message does that send to u.s. allies like france or the u.k? well, the trump. administration certainly established. >> a new. >> normal at the un yesterday by voting alongside a coalition of countries we typically negotiate against. at the same time, based on the text of the us resolution. the us. also normalized illegal russian activity by failing to condemn russia's egregious actions in ukraine. now, aside from the shock value, there are real short and long term consequences to these actions in the short term. the us. undermined ukraine's negotiating position as the aggrieved party in this conflict. and longer term, the us really helped putin's long standing objective of undermining the us led liberal democratic order by taking the united states out of a leadership position when it comes to defending democracy. unfortunately, that.
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>> opens the door. >> for other bad actors to view sovereignty of other nations as something that the. >> us doesn't take seriously. >> so i would. imagine taiwan and others. >> are. >> concerned about. >> this notion that there's. >> a carte. >> blanche for. >> violations of sovereignty. >> it's also notable. >> that president trump refused to call putin a dictator during his q&a with macron yesterday. of course, he called zelensky a dictator last week. if macron's goal was to bolster ukraine to attack the us towards the european position, how did that go? >> well, macron. >> and trump have fundamentally different views of why ukrainian sovereignty matters. for trump, ukraine is a financial investment that's gone wrong. based upon the $200. >> billion or so. >> in security assistance the us has provided. >> for that call. >> and. >> for other european leaders. >> the sovereignty of ukraine is. >> an existential issue for europe. >> macron and other.
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>> european leaders, as well as many other leaders around. >> the world. >> are deeply. aware that putin likely won't stop in ukraine and. >> that their. >> own countries could be at. risk of. russian invasion. if ukraine's. sovereignty isn't protected. so trump sees ukraine through a financial lens. >> macron. >> keir starmer, the prime minister of britain who is due. >> to. >> visit. view the sovereignty. >> of. >> ukraine as. an existential issue for europe. so speaking of that financial lens, president trump says the jen psaki will soon sign a deal with the us for access to ukraine's rare earth minerals. he has called it deal making and compensation for us financial support of ukraine. former ambassador to russia michael mcfaul called this an embarrassing wartime grab for ukraine's resources. how do you see it? the us does not provide security. >> assistance and. >> then issue a tab. >> to. >> countries around. >> the world. the us provides security assistance based. >> on enduring. >> us national security
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interests. past presidents have viewed russian aggression around the world. >> in ukraine. against the. >> united states, and more as an existential issue for the united states. >> because of. >> concerns about what russia is trying to achieve. trump views this differently and does not consider russia's tactics globally to be destabilizing to us national security. we cannot charge allies and friends for the security assistance that we provide. i will note, though, in his first term, president. trump did try to renegotiate. >> the terms. >> of deals. for example, for us military bases around the world. >> so we. >> should expect. >> more of. >> this to come. and that's why we see foreign leaders starting to talk about increases in their own security. >> assistance, additional provision. >> of weapons to other countries. >> and more. >> sam vinograd, thank you. >> appreciate your insights. thanks. next here on ana cabrera reports, there is. >> an exhausting. >> new update about egg prices. the latest restaurant chain the latest restaurant chain announcing a surcharge
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>> i just explained that those categories. >> are saved. i just explained that. so watch how the process. >> plays out over the. >> coming weeks. >> and you'll see what we're talking about. >> yeah. thank you, mr. speaker. >> should elon. >> musk allow president trump's cabinet picks to make their own decisions on personnel? >> i'm not going to tell the executive branch how. >> to operate. >> i've got enough to. handle over here in the legislative branch. but i will say that that i think the vast majority of the american people understand and applaud. and appreciate the doj's effort. the goal to scale. >> down. >> the size and. >> scope of government. >> our party is. >> committed to that. >> as a core principle. we always have been. and the. >> reason we're excited. >> about what elon musk. >> and the team at doge. >> are doing. >> the end result of that. >> is going to be. achieving the goal that. >> we've always had, and that is to make. >> government more efficient, just. as the name. >> of that operation. and that that. >> project implies. and if we can save $1. >> trillion. >> in fraud, waste and abuse, which elon has said in recent weeks and told. >> me in his office. >> a couple of weeks ago, he thinks. >> it's very possible this. >> year to identify and. eliminate $1.
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>> trillion of waste. >> of your taxpayer dollars. you ought to be. standing up and. >> applauding that. and we all do. >> yeah. >> speaker. >> president trump has long. >> said. >> that he wants to help the dreamers. >> what is. >> the. republican the house gop. >> conference plan. >> to do that? >> will dreamers be part of the budget reconciliation? >> yeah. >> well, you can't do big policy changes in reconciliation. as you know, it's limited to what. >> you do with the budget itself. >> but there's lots. >> of. talk about big changes to immigration policy. i came off the house judiciary committee before i. was speaker of the house. for almost eight years. i served there, and when. >> in my first two terms. >> we worked really hard. >> on comprehensive. immigration reform, and i learned firsthand how difficult and. >> complex that is. so there'll be a lot. >> of thoughtful discussion about that. we're not we're not on those issues. >> right now, but it. >> will come, i think, later. >> in this congress. >> because we understand the immigration. >> system has been broken. >> securing the border was the first and most immediate priority of the american people. >> and that's what's happened here. the president has done it with executive orders.
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>> we now have to. >> codify that. when we get to that, then. >> we'll be addressing. >> the rest of the issues. >> yes. >> mr. speaker. mr. speaker, president trump called zelensky a dictator and has falsely claimed that ukraine. >> was responsible. >> for the war that russia started. >> with its 22. >> 2022 invasion. >> you guys were off. >> when he made those comments. i haven't. heard you respond. especially to. >> the dictator comment. >> and i wanted. >> to know what you. >> think of. mr. trump's comments. >> and also. >> how the. >> administration's position. >> on ukraine. >> have you rethought. your move to. >> bring ukraine aid to the. >> floor last year? >> well. >> the thought. was that. >> the supplemental last year. >> was. >> to put ukraine in the position. >> where they are right now to be in a. >> posture where a peace negotiation can take place. i said for more than a year. >> on the campaign trail that i. >> knew that when president trump was elected, he would. >> be the changing agent. >> he would be the. >> force who could. >> come in and move both of those parties to the table to negotiate. >> an end. everybody in the world wants an end to this war. >> we need to. >> restore peace there.
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>> president trump is fiercely. committed to that now. >> he operates in a certain way. he is a great. >> deal maker, as everyone will have to acknowledge whether they like it or not. he wrote the book the art of the deal. right. and i think of this i liken this to my former law practice, where we. >> would be engaged sometimes in. >> arbitration or mediation between two parties that were at war, metaphorically. and when you begin an arbitration proceeding, you don't bring both parties in to the. meeting at the for that first table set because they're they're at odds. >> listening to. >> you, speaker johnson, we're going to pull away. >> here as i hand it. >> over to the next hour. but we were waiting for him. to say, one way or another. >> if there will. >> be a vote today on the budget, we have not got any confirmation otherwise. so that appears to still be on. that's going to do it for us this hour. i'll be back at noon eastern. and now jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage. take it away. >> my friend. >>
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