small businesses. >> right now on anna cabrera reports presidential plus one. president trump. >> convening the. >> first meeting of his.

>> cabinet next hour. >> with billionaire buddy elon musk. >> invited to. >> the table. this amid signs of rebellion. >> in the doge ranks. >> details on federal tech. staffers who resigned in mass rather than work for musk. plus, a win for house republicans passing a trump budget by the skin of their teeth. but can it survive the senate? also ahead, zelensky to washington how soon ukraine's president could visit the white house? as we get reports of a rare. >> earth minerals. >> deal with the us. hello. it's ten eastern, 7 a.m. pacific. thanks for joining us. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. one hour from now, president trump will hold his. >> first cabinet. >> meeting. >> of his second administration. and notable non cabinet member elon musk is expected to be there, putting his controversial. >> doge actions. >> even more in the spotlight. already we're learning republicans are now scaling back

public appearances over outcry from constituents about musk's massive job cuts. at the same time, doge itself has downsized. 21 career staffers resigned in protest, and they did it on the same day the white house finally revealed who's technically in charge at doge. spoiler alert they say it's not elon musk. we are following all of this with. nbc news white house correspondent. >> erin. >> gilchrist, our senior national politics reporter. jonathan allen, msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, and washington bureau. chief and white house correspondent for black press usa, april ryan. erin, so what's on the agenda at this cabinet meeting that's happening at the top of the hour? and do we know why non cabinet member. >> billionaire advisor. >> elon musk. >> is going to be there. >> well. >> honor the work that elon musk. >> is doing really. >> is at the. top of the agenda as we. >> understand it, for this first cabinet meeting of. >> the second trump administration. >> we were told by the. >> white house press.

>> secretary yesterday that these the entire administration would be in the room. >> as she. >> said it, and that. >> the. >> president would. >> expect to hear from his cabinet secretaries or people who have positions. >> at the cabinet level to talk about the. >> work that they've been doing to identify, as. >> the. >> president has. >> called it, waste. >> fraud and abuse. obviously, we. will hear. >> from president. >> trump, who is leading this meeting, and he'll be surrounded by the. >> 18 cabinet level. >> officials who have been confirmed at this point. a handful, maybe 2 or 3 have yet to be confirmed. >> they likely. >> will be in the room. >> as well. >> you mentioned elon musk. we know that he will. >> be there. the press secretary said it. the president. >> said it. he will be in the room. he is a senior advisor to the. >> president and the person. >> tasked with leading the doge effort. >> as we've. >> been talking about, what we'll. >> be looking for is. >> where he is in the room. it is not altogether unusual to have senior advisers to. >> the. >> president in the room for meetings like this. it would be unusual or atypical. >> to see. >> that person sitting at the table with all the secretaries. typically. >> you'd.

>> have the vice president, secretaries of state, defense. the attorney general close to the president will be looking to see if elon musk has a primary seat. that says. >> something about his. >> importance in this administration. >> and aaron. >> obviously, he has been the face of doge, but the white house is now saying he is. >> not the actual. >> administrator and they're naming. >> someone else. fill us in. >> so the. >> executive order. >> that the president. >> signed, creating doge. was one that listed an administrator. a director needed to be appointed for that. and we were told yesterday that amy gleason, a career. federal government official, is the person who is the acting administrator of us doge services, elon musk, though we were told repeatedly yesterday, is leading the doge effort. i want you to hear a little bit more of what the white house press secretary. >> said about. >> this this morning. >> amy gleason has been the doge administrator for quite some time, i believe several weeks, maybe a month. i'm not actually sure of the specific timeline. she's a career official. she's doing.

>> just told. >> us yesterday. >> that they found out about her being the administration administrator yesterday. why is that? you have to ask them. they're clearly unaware i don't. you did you announce her position to the rest of the doge staff? we everybody knew. and we said who she was to all of you. because you are hounds in the media who are so obsessed with this for some reason. >> well, it's confusing though, anna. or additionally confusing is that there have been lawyers fighting. trump administration cases, lawsuits that have come against the administration in court who were asked by judges who's running the doge office. and doj lawyers weren't able to explain who exactly the administrator was. and so that just adds to the mystery that seems to surround the team that elon musk we know for certain, whether it's on paper or in some other way, is the head of anna. >> all right. >> aaron gilchrist. >> thank you for bringing us all that, john. even white house press. >> secretary doesn't really seem to know exactly when gleason. >> was elevated, despite weeks

of questions. >> about it. >> but the decision. >> did appear rushed. when they. >> made the announcement yesterday. >> the new york times reports that she was scheduled to be on. >> vacation when this announcement was made. now the white house is saying she was. >> put. >> in this. >> role maybe a month ago. look, she's not a known trump loyalist. she's a career official. does all. this add up to you? >> no, not at all. anna, i think we all know who's. >> in charge of. >> doge and who's in charge of all of these efforts across the government. >> it's elon musk. it doesn't really matter. >> whether he is. >> called senior advisor to the president. >> senior. >> you know, or a special government employee or doge administrator. >> or. >> you know, doge domain domain leader, whatever he could be called. we all know that musk is running the show. amy gleason, this career official is something of a heat shield. i think. >> for the white house to. >> be able to say, look, this isn't political. >> we've got a. >> career official. it's ironic that they're saying these things because they seem to be so proud of the cuts the president is making. >> even as there. >> has been significant political blowback. >> in parts of the country.

>> and this was. >> president trump just last week. >> yes. >> i signed an order creating the department. >> of government. >> efficiency and put a man named elon musk in charge. thank you, ellen, for doing. >> it. all signs have pointed to elon musk, right? the white house press secretary said musk still oversees doge. so, lisa, let me ask you, because aaron brought up all. >> the court cases. where lawyers have been. >> asked who's in. >> charge here? >> and they can't say for. certain the person who would fit that, that role. right. and so what does this new announcement now mean for. >> these court battles? and does it. >> shield musk? >> not necessarily. i think what they are trying to do is avoid a couple of things. first of all, doge came in as like taking over another agency, the united states digital service. the people who resigned yesterday, for example, are legacy united states digital service technologists. what they are

doing now is taking that agency, sort of clearing it out, turning it into doge, moving it into the white house rather than as an independent agency. so it's not subject to public records laws, and in so doing, trying to shield it from all sorts of disclosures. but it's not going to work because it's pretextual. not only has trump, for example, said that elon musk is leading doge, but if he sits at the big kids table, so to speak, today at the cabinet meeting, that is an indication that he really is exercising authority far above and beyond that which you would expect an inferior officer of the government to issue. and that's where the court battles come into play. ana, because not only is doj's actions under court review, its very structure is perhaps unconstitutional. there are people who are challenging the way that doge is constituted in the same way, ironically, that trump challenged jack smith's office of special counsel, saying that

it was unconstitutional under the constitution's appointments clause because jack smith had never been confirmed by the senate. so too does elon musk lack that. >> but will the damage already be done after all. >> of this plays. >> out in the courts? >> april, we are starting to see a rebellion within the doge ranks. 21 doge staffers resigned in protest. >> these weren't the outsiders musk brought in. these were civil servants who had worked for the us digital service and then were pulled into doge. let me read part of their resignation letter. we don't have their specific identities. so it was anonymous. but they write we will not use our skills as technologists to compromise core government systems, jeopardize americans sensitive data, or dismantle critical public services. so can doge do its job without people who have the institutional knowledge. >> of. >> how things work? >> do we really even know what doge actually formally does? and just putting people? at the end of the day, doge is relying on

these people who understand the inner workings of government. i mean, i have been talking to so many fired employees who do not who are terrified and don't want to talk about it. they are telling me, and this is this is why doge is upset about these career people, these 21 people leaving. they are going into these offices and firing people departments and firing people and leaving things left untied. like for instance, you know, on valentine's day, i did a story on valentine's day. they fired many people. i'm not going to say department, location, etc. just to protect these people from repercussions, but they fired people and they still have their key cards. they still have access to websites 11 days later, right? they have access to their computers and they're just starting the process now to get them to come back and bring those materials back. they're just starting the process. doge needs these people. doge needs

these because they're not tying the loose ends. it's dangerous what they're doing. yeah. >> it speaks to the chaos that is. >> currently in. >> place, the mess that's. >> been made. is there a sense. >> that this. >> cabinet meeting. >> today could be a chance to do. >> some doge cleanup? april, especially after. >> the internal rebellion? >> after all, the. >> combative gop. >> town halls, after at least three agencies fired and then fired critical workers after doge posted blatant inaccuracies on. >> its. >> page. >> and then. >> you know, just quietly revised them. >> well, first of all, anna, as we are talking about all of this doge, there is an attempt to shield elon musk by making amy gleason take the fall if there is a fall. but the question also is, will these cabinet members be so loyal that they don't tell the truth about the pain that's coming in these departments? you know, everyone talks about the emperor with no clothes, and the emperor with no clothes is

really about the people who surround them, not telling them the truth. and that's what's going to be the issue. will they tell him the truth about how these departments are impacted? let's just look at the department of transportation. how many people have died? how many near misses that we've had there? fatal accidents since this administration has taken, taken has come into the white house. then look at the health department. they are diseases out here that the cdc, the health department employees have been muzzled about. they can't talk. will the truth be laid on the table in this cabinet meeting or will it be your great. and this is working. we just have to see what happens and see what the pool reports from that meeting. >> and jonathan, we're looking right now at. >> the doge do overs. >> these, you know, cuts. >> that they say. >> were made. and then they've sort of. >> backtracked on them. after some reporting. >> and some digging. and you can. >> see it's. >> not exactly what they. >> initially presented. so here we are a month later. all these high profile doge actions. has it made anything more efficient?

>> that's a great question anna. they're definitely done some cutting. obviously tried to cut the entire us agency for international development. there are other places where they've been making cuts, but i spoke to government officials yesterday who said that, you know, career government officials who said that they spent a good part of monday talking to each other, talking to subordinates, talking to managers about how to respond to elon musk's email, demanding that they put this bulleted five point list together about what they did last week, you know, costing over. >> the. >> course of the, you know, over the spread of the government, maybe millions of man. >> hours. >> you know, and certainly tens of millions of dollars, if not more simply to reply to that email to figure out whether to reply to it. i think, you know, as you point out, doge has made all kinds of mistakes. there was one on its website last week that it finally cleaned up, where it said the entire us debt was $1 billion in 2019 and is

$1.8 billion now. of course it's trillion. we've seen them mess up million, billion, trillion a lot. i know it's hard to keep up with if you haven't spent time with federal budgets, but you know, in the past you would think folks who knew about those things would be involved in deciding what to cut. >> i mean, it sure sounds like the department of government efficiency is. having the opposite effect at this point. one of the first doge related moves, as you mentioned, is the dismantling of usaid. >> and then president. >> trump paused foreign aid as well. well, in the past two weeks, a federal judge has ordered the administration to unfreeze those funds three times. so the administration has not been complying. >> with the order. >> and we. >> learned yesterday that was still the case. >> the administration says it's. >> appealing this latest order asking for a stay. but i mean, lisa, what more can the courts. >> do if the. >> administration just simply defies the ruling or the order? >> well. >> it's unclear whether a judge can hold a president in contempt of court, but certainly there's lots of precedent for holding

lower level presidential appointees in contempt of court. he could ask marco rubio to come to court. he could ask pete morocco, who was currently running usaid operations, to come to court. and if they can't explain their defiance of these court orders, he could hold them in contempt. there certainly have been contempt rulings in the past. betsy devos was subject to a contempt ruling by a court in the first trump administration. that's an embarrassment and a blemish for any presidential administration, and i would hope that this one would want to avoid that as well. >> so you're saying. >> the people below trump might actually face the legal consequences? >> absolutely. and some of them are acting as if the sort of heat shield around him also extends to them. but that's not necessarily true. >> all right. >> lisa. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> jonathan allen and. >> april ryan, appreciate you all. up next, a budget win. for house speaker mike johnson as well as president trump. but how will their bill that calls for billions in new spending fare in the senate. plus dodge cuts

hitting thousands of veterans. congressman jason crow, who served as an army ranger, joins us on the impact. also ahead, new reporting that the trump administration is eyeing an operation to find and possibly deport unaccompanied migrant children. and another airplane. close call caught on camera. what the heck is going on? we're what the heck is going on? we're back in 90s. sometimes my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis gets in my way. ♪♪ but thanks to skyrizi, i'm free to bare my skin. ♪ things are getting clearer, i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin, yeah that's all me ♪ ♪ nothing is everything ♪ ♪♪ with skyrizi, i saw dramatically clearer skin. and many people were 100% plaque free. skyrizi is just 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses. don't use if allergic. serious allergic reactions, increased infections, or lower ability to fight them may occur.

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with tim burchett. all of them say they've had conversations with trump. we know that he was basically on speaker phone as a group of these holdouts huddled with speaker johnson off the floor. originally, johnson actually sent members home. he pretty much canceled the vote and then called them back in the end and ultimately got it over the finish line. take a listen to a little bit of what we heard from the holdouts. >> ultimately. >> move my. >> vote to yes. once i received. >> the. >> assurances i need that there. >> would be actual cuts to. discretionary spending. >> when did you speak with the. >> president? >> today. >> during that. during your time on the house floor today? >> there's no quid pro quo. but the president assured me that he would work towards cuts. and he's never lied to me. he's always been honest about it. if he lies to me one time, then it's over. but he's never lied to me. he's like my wife, she's never lied to me, and i've always trusted her. >> the colorful tim burchett of tennessee. this was a really important moment for speaker johnson, but i'm reminded of when he got the speaker's gavel in early january. trump, too, had to weigh in in a very similar fashion.

>> so what do we need to know about what is in this bill? >> well, what you need to know, first and foremost is that this bill is going to look very different when the final reconciliation bill, that process where republicans are going to bypass democratic votes to get funding for trump's agenda over the finish line, it's going to look different because, as you see in the house budget resolution, it targets immigration. it gives trump funding for those mass deportations he's been talking about. it also does something on energy and military. but importantly, it extends the 2017 tax cuts that the signature achievement from trump during his first term, the senate bill does not. that resolution passed last week. a part of that is because they're moving on two tracks. you heard from lindsey graham, who introduced this resolution, saying, let's just do what we can now unlock funding for the immediate priorities that trump is already doing. of course, we know those deportations have been taking place, and they want to make these tax cuts not only extend them, but make them permanent. there's a lot of logistical factors at play here in the future, but i think the big picture is, for our audience at

least, is that this is going to take several months. the senate and the house are going to have to get on the same page. there's actually a meeting later today, i'm told, between the top tax writers in the senate, along with leader thune, the top republican in the senate, speaker johnson heading to the white house to meet with their folks over there in charge of treasury and taxes later this afternoon. that meeting is going to be a real marker for how this process unfolds in the coming weeks. and by the way, we have a government funding deadline around the corner, and none of this has anything to do with that. >> right. >> and that. >> could eventually end. >> up in a government shutdown if they can't get everybody. >> to agree, and they. >> may need democrats to make that happen. thank you. julie sirkin. >> we know. >> you have a lot. >> to. >> cover there on the hill. so new developments now on. >> president trump's. >> immigration crackdown. >> apparently now focusing. attention on. >> unaccompanied migrant children. nbc news has exclusive reporting on a planned operation which would target children for deportation. we're talking about young migrants who entered the country without a parent or guardian. and this is according to two sources familiar with the

plan. the operation could impact nearly 300,000 childn living right now in the u.s. with government vetted sponsors, and could begin as soon as this week. >> nbc news. >> senior investigative producer laura strickler is joining us with more on her exclusive reporting. laura, how are you? how are officials planning to go about this? >> so. >> anna, what. >> we've learned is that. >> ice is planning this nationwide operation to locate and potentially deport. >> children who. >> came. >> into the u.s. without a parent. >> or legal. >> guardian. >> according to two sources familiar. >> if a. judge determines. >> that they have no legal basis. >> to stay in the u.s. >> they could be put on a path to deportation. now, while, as you said. >> while timing for this is not. >> clear, we. >> have heard. >> this. >> operation to. >> locate these minors could begin as early as this week. and here's the backstory. >> more than 290,000. >> children crossed the border since fiscal year 2019. that includes under the first trump administration. >> and they were not. >> given notices to appear in

court after they crossed the border. >> the government had. >> them in. >> custody, then transferred them to the care of sponsors throughout the united states. >> then there was an. >> effort by. >> government contractors to follow up with them 30. >> days. >> later, and tens. >> of thousands. >> did not respond. >> to. >> phone check ins after they were. >> placed with a sponsor. >> these are the. >> kids who. >> will be. focused on. >> for. >> this ice operation for possible deportation. according to the sources familiar. >> okay, so last week, we know the trump administration allowed federally funded organizations to resume the legal work for unaccompanied migrant children. that was days after they had ordered them to stop providing services. but do most undocumented kids have lawyers? how are they navigating the court process? >> yeah. it's difficult. i mean. >> this legal work was allowed. >> to continue. >> but the. groups that. >> get. >> that money. >> say they're. >> not even sure their. funding will now be sustained. >> so these. >> kids will have. >> to go before a judge. >> for immigration proceedings. >> and that will add to the backlog of more than 3 million

immigration cases. that could take years if. >> the trump. >> administration cuts legal services for these children, it could make it even harder to fast track their deportation. and so, again, we've learned that these kids. >> and their. >> sponsors could have a knock on the door. >> from ice as soon as this week. >> quickly, if you will. laura, what's the age range do we know? >> well. >> these kids would. >> have if they came in as unaccompanied minors. >> they were under the age of 18. they could have aged out beyond that by now. but that's that's what we know at this point. >> laura strickler, appreciate your reporting. thanks so. much for bringing it to us. up next on ana cabrera reports. deal or no deal. new reports about an agreement for rare earth minerals as ukraine faces. >> a. >> drawback of u.s. support. plus serial podcast subject adnan syed due back in court adnan syed due back in court today, his new bid to get his upset stomach iberogast indigestion iberogast bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs,

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we know about this potential deal? >> good morning. well, as you said, this is not a public deal yet, but we are starting to get a clearer picture of what's going on. it is different from, i think, what we were expecting. there's obviously been a lot of talk over the past week about the trump administration's demand for some 500 billion being repaid by ukraine for aid already given. that language appears to have been dropped from this deal. and that was sort of the kicker that has brought zelensky and ukraine back to the table on it, or at least making making statements that they're now ready to sign it. so, you know, the trump administration doesn't seem to be getting specifically what it said it wanted from it. neither is the ukrainians. so there is some language, as we understand, about security guarantees. there is no there is no actual pledge for security guarantees, but the context is there. so neither side are getting specifically what they want. and in a lot of ways, it kind of looks like an attempt to keep the negotiation process moving forward while sidelining or at least kicking some of these issues down the road in terms of what is

actually in the deal, as we understand it, it is it is being described now as a framework agreement for setting up, essentially a us, ukrainian, russian owned fund in which 50% of the revenue from minerals, from rare earth materials extracted from ukraine would go into some kind of ukraine reconstruction fund, while the other half going to the united states. and so that's what we're looking at at the moment. zelensky said that he has not actually seen the final draft yet, but that he will review it tonight. >> and zelensky is reported to. be here in washington on friday. his team is saying there's been no decision yet if he'll sign this deal while he's here. so what else could be achieved. >> in this meeting? do we. >> know what else. is his objective. in coming to the us? >> well, i think i think all this should be taken in context. obviously. earlier this week we saw french president macron in the in the west wing in the oval office with trump. the uk prime minister, keir starmer is due to be there tomorrow. and now

zelensky, in the context of this, obviously donald trump's statements last week that were very celebratory of vladimir putin, those remarks blaming ukraine incorrectly for starting the war, blaming zelensky himself. so i think zelensky wants to have a big in-person meeting with president trump, following up these european leaders to sort of make a show of signing this deal. and i think what we're going to be looking for is, of course, trump's reaction to that meeting, the statements that are made after that, to kind of get a sounding on how these, these really these allied efforts over the past week to sort of get get trump to come back onside, so to speak, are actually having any results. >> matt bodner, appreciate the update. thank you. this morning, the vatican says pope francis spent a peaceful night in the hospital. doctors are still cautious, though. they say while he's stable, the pontiff remains in critical condition. he's been hospitalized for nearly two weeks now, undergoing treatment for double pneumonia and kidney issues. today, the vatican says

pope francis is still working from his hospital bed, including naming venezuela's first. >> saint. >> jose gregorio hernandez, the doctor of the poor. and breaking news back here at home now in texas, where health officials have confirmed. >> the. >> first death from measles during a worsening outbreak, 124 cases have now been identified, mostly in west texas. babies, children and teens make up 101 of these infections. nearly all were either unvaccinated or hadn't received their second shot. i want to bring in doctor vin gupta, a pulmonologist and msnbc medical contributor. so doctor gupta, first, just a reaction to now there's death. >> you know, i unfortunately, i'm not surprised. and this is a this is a tragic set of circumstances because we know that measles is very preventable. the vaccine is 97% effective. the two dose regimen at preventing. this from happening. >> so this. >> is a tragedy. >> across the board in terms of

what your viewership needs to know. 9 in 10 people that get exposed to somebody with measles. so say a child that has measles, say, in west texas, if they're surrounded by other unprotected, unvaccinated children, nine and nine out of ten of them, it is estimated. >> will actually get exposed and. infected as well. >> it's that contagious. we also know on the from historical data about 1 in 4 unvaccinated children that are infected will end up in the hospital. that is a very, very serious number. and there's major complications severe pneumonia encephalitis which is swelling of the brain. so this is extremely serious. and i worry that this might be the beginning of more. >> we know that there had been a reduction in vaccinations. well, now, lubbock's director of public health reporting, after seeing, you know, more unvaccinated children, families that didn't believe in vaccines, they are now seeing those families getting vaccinated because of the numbers that are growing in this outbreak. is it common, do you think, for these

types of outbreaks to trigger people's newfound belief in the vaccine? >> you know, fear is actually very motivating. we saw this on in the peak of the pandemic in places that saw hospital surges, not just in the united states, but elsewhere, that that actually compelled people to go and get vaccinated. and so, yes, fear does it. >> does motivate. unfortunately. >> if it's very proximal, it's even more motivating. >> so yes, we should. >> see more of the uptake of the vaccine. which is. great because even one dose is 93% effective and that works relatively quickly. so vaccination even acutely in the setting of an outbreak can be helpful. >> well, i'm so glad you told us how contagious it is for those who are watching. and we're concerned about the vaccine, to know just how deadly it could be to not be vaccinated, especially with measles on the rise. thank you very much, doctor vin gupta next, reporting on thousands of veterans likely fired under doge. we'll talk to democratic congressman jason crow, a former army ranger, about the real life ripple effects from this

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is this the only card democrats have to play to try to limit president trump and elon musk slash and burn? >> well. let's let's take a step back and look at the fact that house republicans and even senate republicans now are unwilling to stand up and do their constitutional duty ■of serving as an independent check on the presidency, regardless of politics. right. they have been captured by this president. they have been captured by donald trump. we see that time and time again. we saw that last night when 217 house republicans lined up behind donald trump, and they passed a bill that's not paid for that will add to the deficit. that will give $4.5 trillion of tax cuts to billionaires and the largest corporations, and will gut medicaid and take health care away from millions of americans. it's astonishing. >> okay. you said your piece about republicans, but what about democrats? and what about you? are you willing to shut down the government to hold the line against doge? >> well, to be clear, anna, we

are not the party in power right now, right? the republicans have the house majority. they have the senate majority, and they have the white house. it is their turn to govern, right? they won the election. they have to govern. it's their responsibility. and they have two decisions. the two options. the first option is they can actually work with us to govern because they have a slim majority and pass a bill that's in the best interest of their constituents and of americans. the second option is, is they weaponize this, they capitulate to donald trump, and they pass a bill that will gut congressional power, that will gut health care for americans. and we're just simply not going to do that. that's their decision. that's not our decision. we're always standing here ready to work with them in good faith if that's what they want to do. >> have you reached out to the powers. >> that be in the republican party? >> well, i'm one of the most bipartisan members of congress. i'm always having discussions with my republican colleagues and counterparts to see where we can work together. you know, the

trump administration is not taking my calls to be clear. i mean, i have a long history of pushing back and resisting the worst impulses of donald trump. but listen, i always talk to anybody and everybody i can i can talk to. right? i never refuse a good faith conversation because that's what i'm here to do. that's my job, is to actually figure out how we can legislate, how we can deliver for folks and make their life better. and i'm never going to stop doing that. >> speaking of conversations, we have some new reporting that house republicans are now planning to scale back town halls after the intense blowback we've seen from angry constituents upset about all the doge cuts. is this a case of if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen? >> yeah, that would be a good way to put it. anna. listen, the lesson from tough town halls and pushback in people's districts shouldn't be run away from that and do less of that. the lesson, obviously, by these members should be, wait a minute. the people who i am constitutionally obligated to represent are going to be hurt and are speaking up

and have a right to speak up. right. i'm doing a town hall tomorrow night, and i have over 1500 people who have signed up for that town hall. that's three times the size of my next largest town hall since i've been a member of congress. i'm going to show up. i'm going to engage. those people have a right. my constituents have a right to know where i stand and what i'm doing to advocate for them. >> and so many lives have already been impacted by the firings, the layoffs, the cuts that doj's making. you have served. and continue to serve on the armed services committee. you've served in the military as an army ranger. democrats say at least 6000 veterans have been fired as part of the doj's cuts, with as many as 500,000 at risk of losing their jobs. i want you to listen to one army vet who worked for usaid and was just laid off. >> this isn't a meme. >> this isn't a tweet. this is myself and my wife and my. three children who don't know how we're going to pay the mortgage next month. you know, this. >> is. >> someone that. >> has spent. >> their people that i work

with, that have spent their. >> entire lives. >> dedicated to helping others, sacrificing for others. >> veterans make up about 30% of the federal workforce, according to the house appropriations committee. how concerned are you about the impact of these cuts on vets? >> well, it's devastating. it's simply devastating. i'm a combat veteran. i served three combat tours in iraq and afghanistan. and actually one of the reasons i went in to elected public service is to advocate for my fellow veterans. right. there is a sacred promise in america that if somebody steps up to serve, that this country will be there for them and their families, right? people are willing to give everything for this country in service to our nation, and we owe it to them to make sure that they're taken care of. and this is just this illustrates the problem of donald trump and elon musk's approach. donald trump has handed over the keys to the united states government for elon musk to run off and treat it like some hostile corporate takeover. right. but the problem is, is when you're dealing with

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nation's attention because of the hit podcast serial. right now in baltimore, adnan syed, who spent decades in prison fighting a conviction for the murder of his high school girlfriend, is back in court. in 2014. the podcast presented new evidence in his case, leading to a groundswell of renewed interest in syed. he was released from prison in 2022 when a judge vacated his conviction, but it was later reinstated. >> nbc's marquis. >> francis is following this for us, so right now, syed's not currently behind bars. what does that mean in terms of where this case stands and what's happening in this hearing? >> yeah, right. >> now that. sentence reduction hearing is happening. >> right now. >> and his lawyers are bringing up. >> folks to. >> the. >> stand that can speak to syed's character, so. >> to speak. but as you mentioned, this. >> case has. >> been tossed, reinstated. >> and for the last decade, it's. >> been going through all these appeals. >> and the last. 24 hours, baltimore. >> prosecutors actually. >> chose not. >> to. >> vacate syed's.

>> murder conviction. >> and so now syed's team. >> is hoping. >> that a new, fairly new state law is able to. >> be presented. >> in this case, it's the maryland juvenile. >> restoration act. >> which says that someone who has been convicted of a crime when they were a. minor and already. >> served 20 years, they can be resentenced. and so far, syed's. >> team. has called. >> to the. >> stand two. >> people he. >> was in jail. >> with. >> a psychologist that. >> can speak to his psyche. she mentioned that. >> he is actually a nonviolent. >> he has kind. >> of restored. >> who he is. >> he now. >> is married. >> he takes care of. >> his family. >> he has a job. >> and so the team is basically trying to make it. >> seem as though. >> syed has done the work that he needs. >> to do. >> they're also saying he still is. not confessing to doing this crime, but we're. >> waiting to see. will he not go to. >> jail anymore or will he have to do more time? >> so it could be over here, but it could also mean he goes back behind bars. and the judge is going to be making the call. >> yeah. >> the judge will make. >> the call.

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