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their members? melanie. >> yeah, this debate over doge has. been consuming republicans as they've returned to washington this week. and there has been some real frustration that they have not been getting any guidance, that they have not been given any sort of information about what these cuts actually entail. and so republicans have been privately pleading with their leaders, with party officials, about just how to navigate some of this blowback, especially after some of those viral town halls we saw in several republican districts last week. and i am told that republicans are now being encouraged to either host tele town halls, which are virtual, not in-person, or to better vet the participants so that only constituents and not activists or protesters are the ones participating as a way to sort of mitigate some of the theatrics that we've seen unfold at these public town halls. i also want to read for you what an rnc official told my colleague matt dixon. this official said, i don't know that a specific edict is going to come down from on high that they

need to stop or anything, but a message, i believe has been clearly sent that this narrative should end very soon. probably the best way for that to happen is no more town halls. elon musk's work still has the administration's support. >> period. >> now, i also talked to one house republican who said the rnc has been very supportive, very helpful in making suggestions about how to go about some of these town halls and said the rnc is not telling them not to do any public town halls. but this member said most of their republican colleagues at this point don't even want to bother trying to hold these town halls in this moment, that they're spooked by what they've seen over the last week. so no doubt, just another example of how doge is creating some serious heartburn for republicans, even as they stand by the doge mission publicly. chris. >> melanie zanona, thank you. now to dni tulsi gabbard firing more than 100 intelligence officers. nbc's dan lewis has this story for us. what more are you learning about what led to these firings, dan? >> right. >> so last night, the director of. national intelligence.

>> said she had ordered. >> the firing of more than 100 employees across 15 intelligence. agencies because. she says they. were misusing. >> an internal. >> communication platform for inappropriate conversations that included. >> references to. >> gender transition surgery. or partizan, political discussions and polyamorous relationships. now, there's no evidence or indication. >> at. >> this point that any of. >> these employees. >> somehow spilled any. >> secrets or posed. >> a counterintelligence. >> problem. >> but she is. >> portraying this. >> as as. >> quote, cleaning house that the intelligence. community needs. to be overhauled and. >> that trust. >> needs to be restored with the american people. so that's how it's being portrayed. it's still under investigation. and the national. >> security agency. >> which oversees these kind of internal communication platforms. >> say that it involves. >> a. >> relatively small number of.

>> people and that the matter is still under investigation. >> thank you so much, dan. appreciate that. let's go to illinois now. and new details on how the man who's charged with the fatal stabbing of a six year old boy reacted when confronted by police at the crime scene. nbc's maggie vespa is reporting for us from chicago. a court is still in session, but what have we heard so far? >> yeah, chris. so that testimony was chilling. it happened just in the last few hours here. we're now roughly half a dozen witnesses into this trial, so they're moving at warp speed. let's get to that exchange from a deputy who's one of the ones who testified to arresting joseph shuba, the landlord in this case. he says. >> he said, sir. >> to shuba multiple times as he's walking up to him, by the way, in the yard outside. >> the home. >> that's where they found him. and says shuba, he did not give any response. then he says, shuba sat back up, placed his hands behind his back, the deputy saying he did not order him to do that. and that's when they arrested him. effectively saying. >> that. >> he. was mute in this moment,

said nothing, did nothing to resist. so on and so forth. this is the latest witness, the latest kind of chilling testimony there. shuba himself, shortly after the arrest in this case of a. >> six. >> year old palestinian american boy, wadiya al-fayyumi, who prosecutors say was stabbed by that man by their landlord, 26 times. one week after the october 7th attacks in israel. and that timing obviously key because guardia's mother, hanan shaheen, testifying yesterday that in the days following october 7th, her landlord, whose wife has said he was listening to a lot of conservative radio about the war coverage of the war, she said her landlord kind of became obsessed with their muslim faith, started asking her a lot of questions and saying things like, your people are killing jews and babies and israel. finally, the day he attacked, she said, saying, and you're doing nothing about it. so chilling testimony coming ou. right now. we're seeing a physician's assistant or producer in court tells us, testifying about putting 19 stitches to close a laceration on the mother's face. again, she

was attacked as well, but survived. shuba, for his part, has pleaded not guilty to these charges. his defense team just hoping that the jury buys their theory that basically police. assumed he was guilty too quickly and failed. >> to look. >> for any other suspects. we'll see how. >> that goes. >> chris. >> maggie. >> vespa. thank you. and now to the emotional funeral of israeli hostages. shiri and her two young sons, ariel and kfir. nbc's matt bradley is in tel aviv. tell us more about what surely must have been heartbreaking goodbyes today. >> this was a heartbreaking. >> and really emotional moment. >> and not just for this family, but. >> really for the whole country. because remember the. >> drama that went in to the. exchange of. the bodies here? >> now, shiri. >> was one of four bodies. >> who were handed over. >> or supposedly. >> were handed over. >> from hamas in exchange. >> for hundreds of. >> palestinian prisoners and the. >> continuation of the cease fire. >> and there. >> was a huge controversy when. >> israeli medical.

>> authorities checked. >> and decided. >> that the body was in fact not that of shiri bibas. >> and then. >> that caused. >> a huge. division between. >> hamas and. >> israel over this. >> very. >> very delicate peace treaty. >> what happened then. >> was that the hamas. >> went back. >> and found. >> a body. >> who they. >> said was in. >> fact the woman in question. she was. >> buried today. >> so what we. saw was an enormous. >> funeral cortege. >> that went. >> from the middle of. >> the country, almost. >> the length of half of all. >> of israel. >> to her. >> final resting place near the kibbutz, where she was attacked and killed with. >> her children. >> and this is something. >> that. >> has really animated. >> a lot of emotions here. >> ever since october 7th. >> this family was one of the most high. >> profile of all of the hostages. >> and in fact. >> her husband, yarden, who spoke today, gave an incredibly gut wrenching speech at the. eulogy in which he. apologized to his family, apologized to his children for not being able to protect them. >> and then. >> in other televised remarks from his sister. >> she harshly.

>> criticized the administration of benjamin netanyahu, the prime minister. here, she. >> said. >> putting he. >> put the. >> israeli government put. >> revenge over the lives of. >> those hostages. >> who died in hamas. >> and in the. >> custody of hamas. >> and its partners. >> so what we're. >> seeing here. >> was, like. >> i said, a. >> gut wrenching. >> series of. >> events today coming again week after week. we're seeing. all of these hostages and. >> prisoner exchanges. >> and now we're seeing these burials and these just heart wrenching moments of grief from family members that are really. >> bringing in. >> the entire nation. you saw over that funeral cortege. there were thousands of people lining the streets. >> they were encouraged to do so. >> and in many cases, what we're seeing are these moments of grief turning into moments. >> of politics. >> and that's one of the things that we're probably going to be looking forward to as this peace transition, as this peace treaty between hamas. >> and. >> the israelis. >> goes from. >> phase one. >> into phase two. >> and that's.

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investigative reporter laura strickler. also with us here, former republican congressman david jolly and msnbc political analyst. so do we even know gabe what this would even look like? >> hi there chris. well, this idea has been around for years, especially after the 2012 debt crisis in europe. other countries issued what they called so-called golden visas, golden passports, so to speak. and the trump administration, though, surprised reporters in the room yesterday by bringing this up. and commerce secretary howard lutnick says that this would replace the current eb five visa program, which he says has little oversight. but as you said, president trump revealing this and today even calling it a bargain. take a listen to more of what he had to say during his cabinet meeting earlier today. >> we have to be able to get people in the country, and we want people that are productive

people, and i will tell you, the people that can pay 5 million, they're going to create jobs. they're going to spend a lot of money on jobs. i don't know that we're going to sell that many. maybe we won't sell many at all. but but i think we're going to sell a lot because i think there really is a thirst. no other country can do this because people don't want to go to other countries. they want to come here. everybody wants to come here. >> president trump yesterday suggested that russian oligarchs might possibly buy some of these visas. and today his administration said that they would go on sale, so to speak, in about two. >> weeks or so. >> chris. >> okay, congressman, i mean, do you see this as kind of what some other countries do? first of all, for example, the uk, i think it's a 2 million pound investment in a business, but we don't have the details on just if you have money, are we going to give it to you? right. do you have to guarantee you're going to create jobs? i mean, there's this famous line right on the statue of liberty. i don't even know how many times i've been there. i go a lot. give me your

tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe. >> free. >> does this $5 million go golden ticket say something about access? and who gets access to the american dream? >> it does. it's in many ways an abandonment of american values and the american identity. we have investor class b visas, eb five, we have e-2. you can come here, you can invest in a business. you can come here and make passive investments. we have those. so perhaps they should be reformed or or made better. and those are category along many categories including eventually you get to refugee and asylum status. we have different pathways. i think what the, the cruel nature of this is. you're right. it was the great colossus by emma lazarus. give me your tired, your poor. what most people don't know is the passage that precedes that which is keep ancient lands your storied pomp. and what it says is keep other, other countries, keep your rich and your famous and your fabulous. bring us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free, your

homeless, your wretched refugees tossed upon the shore. behold, i have raised my lamp by the golden door. that is, americans should have be. it has been and should be the american ethos of welcoming all people. i think we know what drives donald trump's motivations. he sees the ability to sell a gold car for a gold card for 5 million, which will have zero impact on the federal treasury. it's just a matter of bringing in wealthy people. >> laura, you have exclusive new reporting about a trump administration plan to find unaccompanied migrant children. what can you tell us about that? >> yeah. thank you chris. what we've what we've learned is that ice is planning a nationwide operation to locate and. >> potentially deport. >> children who came. >> into the united states without a parent or. >> legal guardian. >> according to. >> two sources familiar. >> with the plan. if a judge determines they have no legal. basis to stay in the united. >> states, they could be. >> put on a path. >> to deportation. >> now, while timing for this is. >> not clear, we. >> have heard this operation to

locate. >> these minors could. >> begin as early. >> as this week. >> and here's the backstory. as we know, almost 300,000 children crossed the. >> border since fiscal. >> year 2019. that includes under the first trump administration, and they were not given notices to appear in. court after they crossed the border, the government had them in custody. >> and then. >> transferred them. >> to the. >> care of sponsors throughout the us. then there was an effort by government. contractors to follow up with them. 30 days. >> later. >> tens of thousands of them did not respond to phone check. ins after they replaced with a sponsor. these are the kids who will be focused on for this ice operation for possible. >> deportation. >> according to the same two sources. familiar. >> congressman, you've said in the past, the question of immigration is a reflection of our values. where does the prospect of threatening a 14 year old with deportation land? >> i find it heartbreaking, and i think the framing of immigration in our national conversation has really been

wrongly set. i mean, we're the most powerful nation in the world. we are not threatened by families and young people trying to come be a part of the american dream and grab opportunity and escape poverty and escape violence. if anything, we should be welcoming them. and i think even when we get into the nuances and a lot of these red states versus blue states policies, i mean, rip the band aid off. what is wrong with welcoming people to the united states who contribute to our culture and our economy, our education system and the fabric of who we are? it is a question of our values. i think the most worrisome thing about this new idea by trump about the registration, making people register, creating civil or criminal penalties, going after these folks. the there was about a decade where obama and even the likes of marco rubio, there was an understanding to allow these families and individuals to come out of the shadows that as a nation, we at least would be better if we could get them out of the shadows. this will push them back into the shadows, because it will be a terrifying prospect to register under a trump administration that you're here without proper

documentation. the next step is deportation. >> it is interesting to me, among many things, and it's a complicated problem, right? and i think most americans think there should be some sort of way for people to come out from the shadows and for pay, pay taxes, all that. but a lot of folks who do get. >> help. >> get help through churches. >> that's right. >> and a lot of the people who are railing against this are people who talk about being christian and believe in the christian faith. and i wonder if there is a disconnect somewhere with some of their constituents who frankly, and i've seen it all across the country, people who work in their churches, in their neighborhood, you know, gyms to help people who come here get jobs, learn the language, go to school. >> i don't think progressive evangelism died with jimmy carter. i think there's still a thread of progressive evangelism around the country. i think there are evangelical democrats still sitting in church pews. but you're right. so much of the

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to meet a higher legal bar to prove they faced bias at work. kimberly atkins store is a columnist for the boston globe and msnbc political analyst here in studio with me. lisa rubin, msnbc legal correspondent. walk us through the arguments in this case. >> the argument in this case is marlene eames. who is the plaintiff or the petitioner here? chris said she was discriminated against because from the moment she got a gay supervisor, everything sort of went wrong for her. first she was demoted and then she failed to achieve a different promotion because the people around her were all sharing the same sexual orientation. the justices today at argument, didn't seem to buy the idea that there should be one standard for people from majority groups, and a different standard in title seven employment discrimination cases for others. in fact, at one point, justice kagan even asked the parties, if you guys all agree essentially on the fact that there's the same standard for everyone in terms of what your burden of proof is, why are

we even here? it seemed like all of the justices had a sort of consensus. after listening to all of the parties, that maybe the lower court made a mistake, and requiring more from miss ames, but that nobody really wanted to mess with the fundamental test for what it what it takes to prove employment discrimination. >> kimberly, give us your take on what you heard today and the potential impact if the court sides with the plaintiff. >> yeah. >> the impact can be really immense. i agree with lisa that this court seems aimed toward ruling in marlene ames favor on this idea that she was discriminated against because she is a straight woman and is not gay. but i think it's important. one thing that i was listening for in the argument that i did not hear is the history of this law, the civil rights act of 1964, which was passed at the height of protests, and the civil rights movement, aimed to protect the rights of black people who face

historic discrimination in this country, as well as women, indigenous people and others. and it's this supreme court that actually extended those protections for gender to include lgbtq people. in the bostock decision. a few years ago. so this seems to be turning all of that on its head. it's okay for justices to look for the reason that a law exists, and that is to stop discrimination against marginalized people. but this is also the court that struck down affirmative action. and the chief justice, who frequently likes to say that racial discrimination is always wrong, regardless of which direction, completely turning a blind eye to what is. actually happening. you know, just short. long and short of it here. there is no massive lgbtq discrimination efforts against straight people. >> in. >> this country. it's just not happening. but now, lawsuits like this will not only make it harder for more meritorious, meritorious suits that are supposed to be brought under this act. it really gives more

fuel to this anti die effort that as you said, is happening everyplace from the white house to private employer workplaces across the country right now. >> yeah you're right kimberly, we know where the president stands on dei. we know where most of the. republicans in congress stand on dei. now, the third branch of government will have its say. give us some more particulars, because i think for a lot of people, they may have the idea that workplace discrimination is tough to prove anyway. so will this really have some sort of major impact? but talk about that. >> yes. >> so the additional step that the supreme court are considering is whether someone who is in a majority group has to show some sort of background or circumstance that proves that this is an unusual circumstance in which majority group members are being discriminated, being discriminated against. that's not an extra high bar, but the court really, some members

really embraced it as some sort of unfair bar that people would have to clear. although that's never been the case. people have been able to bring these cases. it has to be on the merits, and that has been going on since 1964. so there's no real evidence of unfairness here other than what is, claimed. her. the plaintiff in this case. her lawsuit was thrown out below by courts who weighed the evidence. but it seemed that the supreme court could step in here and really upend the way that employment discrimination has been handled for decades. >> if all of cases, lisa, are going to be judged on their merits, what's a merit like? how do you determine that? >> well. >> the sort of paradigmatic framework for evaluating employment discrimination cases comes under a supreme court case called mcdonnell douglas. and it sort of establishes what we call a burden shifting framework. the plaintiff is responsible for proving, by a preponderance of the evidence, that there's prima

facie evidence that they were discriminated against. if they can get over that hurdle at that point, the burden shifts to the defendant to show that they had a nondiscriminatory reason for taking the employment action that they did. and then the plaintiff gets an opportunity to rebut that by saying, hey, what you point to as nondiscriminatory, that's really pretextual your whole aim and design all along was to discriminate against me on the basis of a protected characteristic. if the supreme court does the modest thing here, what they'll say is that test remains in place, regardless of whether you're in a majority group or a minority group. one of the things that they were being asked to do today, even by ohio, which was theoretically the defendant, was to revise that test. that is an even worse case scenario than marlene ames simply winning and having her case go back down to lower court so you can see some of the more liberal justices start to say to themselves, well, wait a second. you guys don't really have much of a disagreement here. why don't we just close up shop and be done

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months away, but the race for florida governor is getting really interesting already. republican congressman byron donalds is now officially running and he has the backing of president trump. but governor desantis says he has a better idea for donalds stay in washington. >> donald trump. >> just got. >> into office. >> i want these. >> congressmen focused. >> on enacting. >> his agenda. >> we've achieved. >> victories in florida. >> we need. >> to start. >> achieving those victories up there. >> so i. think people look at it. >> and say. >> you know, you got a guy like byron. he just. >> hasn't been. >> a part of. >> any of. >> the. >> victories that we've. >> had. >> here over the left over these last years. >> he's just not been a part of it. >> he's been in other states. >> campaigning. >> doing that, and that's fine. >> but okay. >> well. >> then deliver. >> results up there. >> well, desantis can't run again, but he has been talking up his wife, casey, as his possible successor, although she hasn't said she's running. and one florida newspaper last year published a list of 13 potential

candidates. joining us now, julia manchester, national political reporter at the hill. wow, julia. i mean, how competitive and how expensive is this going to be? this is a big prize in governor's races. >> it's a big. >> prize in. >> governor's races. >> but also it's a big prize. >> in. >> the republican. >> party in the state. that really has become the center. >> of that party's universe. >> and we could potentially see. >> if casey. >> desantis were to jump. >> in the race. >> against byron donalds in that primary. a trump. >> versus desantis. proxy battle. we know. >> that president. >> trump last week on. >> thursday came out and. >> gave. >> his full. >> throated endorsement to byron. >> donalds before byron donalds even jumped into. >> the race. >> but we. also know that casey desantis and ron desantis have been talking with donors and some operatives about the possibility. >> of her running. >> there are a number of polls, including one from the university of north florida, that was released last week that showed that casey desantis, as first lady. >> has higher. >> name id than byron donalds.

>> does in florida. >> but the problem. >> for casey desantis. >> is that byron donalds has that trump. >> endorsement. >> and we know that trump. >> endorsement carries. >> quite a bit of water. in florida. so going forward, i think it could be. >> if. >> we see. >> this desantis versus. >> donalds primary, it could be a bruising. >> primary for republicans in that state. >> yeah. this is the interesting part for me, right. because when the when the primary is held, who knows what the economy is going to look like. who knows how people are going to feel about donald trump? he made a lot of promises about day one, right, that. >> he has. >> still some time to get done before the midterms. but i don't know. if you can say now. >> how useful his. >> endorsement will be. >> it's unclear. >> because we do know, at least in the primary. >> in florida on. >> the. >> republican side and just. >> in. >> republican politics in florida in general, desantis and trump are giants. i would say that. >> trump obviously. >> is the bigger giant, being the. >> president. >> having won the. state by, what, 13 points in 2024.

>> but i would say that both of these. >> men, desantis. >> and trump. >> and the argument for casey desantis is that she would be an. extension of ron. >> desantis legacy. >> essentially, and his. >> role in. >> turning florida more red. >> trump and. >> desantis have certainly played a huge role in getting the state more red, particularly going back to the coronavirus pandemic. that being. >> said, though, looking ahead to the general. >> election, it's going to be an uphill climb for any democrat really. >> to face off. against the. >> republican in a. >> state that has just tilted. >> so far to the right in recent years. you know, we've heard some names floated, congressman jared moskowitz, but he seems to. >> have, you. >> know, thrown some cold water. >> so as the florida. >> democratic party rebuilds following a number of losses last cycle, it's unclear who they're going. >> to choose. >> to be governor. >> i think that's why. >> there's so much stock being thrown into this gop primary, because republicans have such an. advantage there. >> julia manchester is going to

be an interesting one to watch. thank you so much for coming on the program. well, the trump administration, sweeping cuts to the federal workforce have dealt an especially hard blow to the nation's veterans, who made up 28% of government employees last year. here's what two veterans told nbc about getting their termination letters. >> i felt. >> absolutely betrayed by a government that i had spent. a good chunk of. my life serving and sacrificing for. >> i was really. >> just in shock, honestly. >> because i. >> never had an issue with my job. i feel let down. >> this isn't a meme. this isn't a tweet. this is myself and my wife. >> and. my three. >> children who don't know how we're going to pay the mortgage next month. >> joining me now is william hague, executive director of the union veterans council. he was deployed in iraq from 2003 to 2009. thanks so much for being with us. william, i wonder what you're hearing from your members and how they're dealing with with these layoffs.

>> i think we're hearing. >> the exact same message those veterans. just put put forward. the idea of being. >> left behind. >> being disparaged. >> i think. >> it's. >> something that we're hearing. >> every single day. >> and i want to. >> thank you. >> so much. >> for. >> lifting up this story. you know. >> there's. >> almost between between. >> the. >> 28% of veterans. >> that work in the federal. >> workforce and contractors. we're looking to almost a million veterans that could be. >> affected by. >> these layoffs. >> and words matter. >> we've heard a lot. >> of. >> numbers being. >> thrown around. >> about. >> how many people they want. >> to cut. >> and if. >> it's towards. >> the high. >> end. >> of what the. >> doge committee and what elon. >> musk has. >> said. >> publicly. >> it could. >> be a devastating. >> devastating impact to working. >> veterans across america. >> the veterans affairs secretary also announced cuts to the va, which of course provides care to more than 9 million veterans. 36% of veterans in the civil service are disabled or they have a serious health condition. many of them are receiving care for injuries sustained while they were serving. so what are the ripple effects if their main provider

has funding cut? >> so for the last 40. >> years. >> especially since, you know. >> 2008. >> the. >> global war. >> on terror. >> veteran organizations like. >> myself, the american legion. >> vfw have worked tirelessly. >> to make sure. >> that we have veterans. >> preference and programs for veterans to find gainful employment. >> to solve many of the. >> problems we have in the veterans community. it can start with a job. and a career that gives veterans. >> the ability to live the. >> american dream. >> and. >> not have to worry about. >> paying the. >> mortgage next week. >> we've created these. >> programs because. >> veterans fit. into the federal. >> workforce in such a. >> strong way. they've served their. >> country already. >> they continue. >> to serve. they've got great skill sets. and we made a promise to them. >> we made. >> a promise. to the blank check that they wrote. but then also when we worked to make sure that they took these. >> positions and. >> these careers. >> many times taking less money than they could in. >> the public sector or in the private sector. we made a promise to. them and for them to be fired unjustly. that is. >> the issue here. >> we're all for making. >> sure. >> there's government accountability, making sure that

taxpayer dollars are spent. but these people provide critical roles every single. day to keep our country going. and so many of them feel like it's a second service. >> faa workers. >> in nebraska. >> that just. >> want to. >> make sure. >> that planes can land on time. have been laid off with no just cause. and that's something that we've got a bone to pick with. and we just came from, from from from. >> from a from. a press. >> conference where legislators. >> are putting. >> out legislation. >> now hopefully to. >> make. >> make right by our veterans that. >> have been laid off so. >> far and put accountability. >> into this. >> administration. >> who. >> seems like they. >> just want to press. >> buttons and. >> put names on a spreadsheet and. >> not. >> realize who they're affecting. >> like that. >> gentleman, we heard. where him and. >> his family are, not. >> sure what they're. >> going. >> to do next week. >> yeah. how do you pay your mortgage? i also want to get your reaction to a couple of things. there was a va employee yesterday who told the house committee that veterans struggling with the layoffs, with losing their jobs, can turn to a suicide hotline. almost at the same time, usa today reports at least two dozen operators of the va's emergency hotline were

fired in the doge cuts. data shows more than one third of veterans have a mental health disorder. an average of 17 veterans died by suicide every day in 2024. how essential is mental health support for veterans right now, and what do you make of the statement? well, if you're having a hard time getting fired, call the suicide hotline. >> i think. >> it's pretty. >> pretty embarrassing. >> that we're in. >> a position. >> where we have. >> the president of the. united states. and an elected billionaire. >> who walks around. >> the world as paved in gold. >> while most of. >> us veterans. >> are just working. >> class folks. >> are putting. >> veterans in a position. >> where they have to call. >> the suicide. >> hotline or be. >> warned to call the. >> suicide hotline. >> or get help. >> you know. >> we have. >> a. >> request of. >> where. >> can they find people, where can they sign up for programs to get a food assistance? where can we find how can we make sure that veterans. >> have another job. >> to go into? that may. >> not be. >> as good as. >> this one. financial stability is one of the key parts for our veterans. veterans. veterans.

>> community. >> there's an army war college study called financial instability. >> a. >> suicides weapon of choice in the. >> military community. >> and right. >> now. >> there's almost a million veterans who do not know if they're going to get an email or. >> they're getting emails that. >> are threatening or confusing to them, and that's putting them. >> into an uncertain position. >> we do not want to see that as as a veterans advocacy community. and i'm really wondering where most. >> of the other veteran organizations are. >> i'm really proud. >> of the. >> vfw yesterday for coming out with a strong statement about this, but these are their members. this is. >> almost 12%. >> of the entire. >> working. >> working population of veterans that are under attack right now and are being called names. bye bye, bye bye bye bye, elon musk. i think that's one of the hardest parts that i've had to deal with, is these people are. >> brave. >> patriotic americans. >> that go to work. >> every single day and they're being called bums. >> they're being called. >> disparaging remarks from from elon musk and donald trump. and you would think that every single one of these people were. >> showing up to work, putting. >> their feet on. >> the desk and not.

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