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>> between the trump administration and european allies, allies that. have been rattled. that's putting it mildly. but president trump's handling of the ukraine war. the vice president's confrontational, again, putting it mildly. speech at the munich security conference and. those looming blanket tariffs that donald. >> trump wants. >> to take effect. >> against the e.u. next week. starmer will likely. >> point to. >> his plans to increase defense spending to try to impress donald trump. he also brought along a letter from the king, a personal. >> letter. >> from the. >> king to present. >> to donald trump. he has also offered to send british troops to ukraine as part of any future peace deal. in exchange, he will likely ask donald trump. >> for just. >> a. >> few things, like a u.k. exemption to the looming 25% tariff on. >> steel and aluminum. >> imports, and steering donald trump. >> away. >> from his. >> redevelopment plans. >> in gaza. but the real priority here for starmer and

the european allies. >> we saw this with macron earlier. >> in the week, is making. >> donald trump understand. >> the implications. >> the broader implications. >> if he doesn't already, of. russia gaining ground in ukraine. joining us now. >> nbc news. white house. >> correspondent yamiche alcindor. >> editor in chief at foreign policy ravi agarwal, editorial. >> board. >> chair and editor at large for the financial times gillian tett, and diplomatic correspondent for the new york times michael crowley. yamiche, i will begin with you. talk to me about what we saw so far between keir starmer and president trump. they were in the oval office meeting and reporters got to ask quite. >> a few questions. well, it's really interesting because the setting of this meeting was that keir starmer was not as close of an ally personally to president trump as, say, french president emmanuel macron, who visited earlier this week. keir starmer had said that he does not agree with president. >> trump, who. >> called president zelensky, of course, the president of ukraine a dictator. that being said, in this oval office, they were sort

of presenting a united front. and keir starmer in particular said he was giving credit to president trump for moving along these peace talks. so there was this real sense that they were together trying to get, get, get a sense of sort of how to end this war in ukraine and how to stop russia from invading more parts of ukraine. that being said, you saw in keir starmer someone who was also trying to make the case that europe should be at the table and also trying to make the case that they have been trying to make their own guarantees, upping not only their national defense spending, but also their economic ties to the united states. so definitely an interesting real move there by keir starmer to sort of leave the frosty relationship to the side and to try to really, i think, in some ways cozy up to president trump. of course, the us and the uk have been longtime allies for a long time. so it really, in some ways was striking. >> yeah. >> michael, we. >> definitely saw that in the oval office meeting. the hand delivering of that and the big ceremony that he tried. >> to put around. >> the delivering of the. letter from. >> the king. >> and. >> the invitation. >> this is the message has

gotten to european allies that they believe the best way to get donald. >> trump on. >> their side is just to shower. him with flattery, to make him. >> feel important. >> absolutely. katie. >> this is. >> the name. >> of. >> the game. >> and, you know, i think a lot of these leaders, there's no. doubt they have real. distaste for donald trump or worse. and but i think they learned over his first term sometimes the hard way that, you know, trying to challenge him, trying to one up him, insult him, prove him wrong just doesn't work. and so people are just resigned to basically kissing the ring. and, you know, it's the old saying flattery will get you everywhere. and i think people understand that. i think that the game a lot of people are playing is that you play to trump's vanity, and you. >> hope that. >> the image and the kind of theatrics get what you get, you

what you want substantively. so say and do what you have to in front of the cameras, say how great he is. kind of play along with his photo op moments, and try to get what you can behind the scenes based on whatever goodwill you can earn doing that. >> the posture. >> toward europe has changed so dramatically, it's hard to know where to start with questions. gillian, it's not. just that donald trump is trying to, you know, claim that vladimir zelensky is a dictator or that, you know, the ukrainians started the war. it's not just that he's cozying up again with russia, which anybody could have predicted. it's the way that he's talking. about european allies. the rhetoric has gotten sharper, coarser. this idea that he believes the eu and our friends have taken advantage of us uses much coarser language than that. and also the implication of these tariffs. >> that he wants. >> to levy against the eu. it's not just talk to say that the united states suddenly feels.

>> much more. >> like a foe than a friend. >> that's absolutely. >> i'm sitting here in. >> london right now. >> and there. >> is a. >> growing realization. >> here that the postwar geopolitical. >> order is. >> basically dead. >> and britain. >> and the rest. >> of the european union and the european. >> allies are. >> going to have to find a. >> new type. >> of path going forward. and for keir starmer. >> this is. >> a. >> really important. visit because he's. >> had a very tough. >> few months. >> he. >> on the one hand, desperately. >> needs to show the british public. >> that he can actually do business with donald trump. >> and actually strike. >> some, some kind of deal. >> because, of course, there's this long. >> standing idea. >> that british, british. >> governments and american governments have this. >> so-called special relationship. but at the same time, anyone who's ever seen the movie love actually knows that one. >> thing the british. >> public hates is being bullied. >> by american presidents. >> or lectured. >> by american presidents. >> and so if starmer is seen to. >> be essentially. >> giving in in any. >> way, he will.

>> face a big. >> backlash back home. starmer hopes. he can create a path where he actually acts as a bridge. >> between europe and the us. >> that's a hope. the fact that donald trump actually met him in person, whereby. >> president macron. >> was actually met by essentially the head. >> of protocol. >> is one sign that in some ways. >> they're giving. >> the british a bit more love. but certainly it's going to be very tricky indeed for starmer to emerge from this without looking as if he's either been too sycophantic or essentially. been too aggressive and brushed aside by the president. >> what is it going to mean to. >> have. a 25%. >> tariff in the uk? the uk, the economy is already struggling there from the move to leave the european union so many years ago. >> absolutely. it would be brutal. >> i mean, there. >> is a real sense of stagnation. >> in the british economy right now. >> and because of the rupture of trading relations. >> with the european. >> union following brexit, the uk has really been relying on countries. like america for a lot of trade. so a 25% tariff

would be very, very. >> painful indeed. now. >> the one good bit of. >> news is that. >> most of the trading relationship between the uk and the us is actually around services, not goods. and for the most part, donald trump doesn't seem to pay any attention. to services, although it's actually pretty important for the uk economy, in fact, very important indeed. so i think one of the other things is that british prime minister will. >> be praying that no one mentions the. >> services at all, because that's something which is so important for britain. >> right now. >> there was. >> one quite remarkable. >> go ahead gillian. >> i was going to say donald trump is very retro, and. >> he doesn't. >> seem to have noticed that there can be more to economies than factories. and the reality is, in today's global world, services are absolutely critical. >> there was one moment in the oval office meeting between the. two that that struck me as uncomfortable. and this was when donald trump said to keir starmer, could the uk take

russia on by itself? and the prime minister just made a face. of course it can't. it doesn't have an army to do so. no one in europe has a standalone army to take on russia. part of the agreement that the europeans have had to push back on russia is to be part of nato, to have all of the armies together stand up to russia. and the biggest one, obviously being the united states. >> of course. >> and. >> you know, the. >> only time article five of nato. >> has ever been. >> invoked. >> that's the article. >> that says you attack one of us, you attack all of us. >> that was after. >> nine over 11, of course, when european. >> countries and canada came to america's help when. >> it needed it most. now i would just caution. >> i agree. >> with everything. our panelists. >> have said here. but there is a danger to reading too much into the bluster of the tv. i mean, a lot. >> of what. >> we heard in the last couple of hours was theatricality made for tv moments. and so when trump says something like, you know, can you take them on in

your own? i think he's really playing to the cameras, just as, for example, when he was asked if he saw zelenskyy as a dictator. he looked at the cameras and said, you know, did i say that? so there's a lot of drama, a lot of theatricality. and i think what all of us need to be doing is to look out for the details later when they do emerge, if any deals are struck and what the give and take has been on on either side. i think one thing is clear from the theatricality so far that starmer came in very well prepared. it was so clear that trump was just absolutely pleased as a child with sticky toffee pudding, that he had gotten an invite to go to the uk on a state visit from the king, looking at the signature and sort of marveling at it. that stuff actually works. and so, you know, well played from the uk. the challenge, however then is behind the scenes. what do they actually get out of it? i'll also just point out the uk has more to lose in a sense,

than many other european countries. ki a i mean, the uk is not part of the eu anymore, but b the five eyes alliance. this is an intelligence network that includes the us, uk, australia, new zealand and canada. and the uk really needs american intelligence to be able to sort of survive in that space, in that arena, especially when you add in how ai and data can sort of crunch so many things. again, that is an area that that starmer will hope trump doesn't use as a bargaining chip in any way. >> you know, you. >> took the next. >> question right out of my mouth, and it already appears that he's trying to use that as a bargaining chip. there's been, you know, whispers of this against canada to try and force better or in his mind, better trade agreements with with canada just for our audience benefit. and as obviously, we're waiting for the bilateral press conference between the two leaders, explain five eyes and. >> why it is so.

>> important. >> not just for the uk, but all of the member countries very much, including the united states. >> yeah, this is a spy sort of intel sharing network where these five countries canada, the united states, australia, new zealand and the uk that they share all the intelligence gathering they have. and obviously they do sort of redact some data that they think is absolutely crucial to them. for example, deep sources, stuff like that. but really they share the bulk of their sort of big data, as it were, intelligence sharing, cooperation, things that allow them to be more than the sum of their parts. and, you know, this data has has come in handy, for example, when canada last year, you know, pointed out to the indians, for example, that they thought the indian government was responsible for an assassination plot on one of their citizens on canadian soil.

a lot of that data had emerged came from the american side. so it really is one of those net positive things for all five countries. however, as we've learned, it's always the smaller countries that stand more to lose if they're taken out of this kind of a partnership. so it is with nato, where the smallest countries stand to lose the most. and in a sense, katie, as we're talking about this new world order that jillian mentioned, where the old one seems like it's being destroyed or it's ended. that is the thing that all of us are looking out for the most. because inasmuch as all these world leaders come to the white house and play trump's transactional game very well, in some, in some cases something else is lost in a zero sum world. you have other dangers that emerge, alliances that don't quite work out, and the smallest players that suffer in a world in which there isn't a rising tide that lifts all boats. >> you know, i wonder when

you're talking about the details, you know, don't pay attention too much to the theatrics. look at the details. what details are you going to be watching out for? that will point you in a direction. i mean, we've been having very serious conversations about this. this new world order that donald trump tries is appears to be trying to pursue diminishing the power of europe, lifting up the power of russia, wanting to potentially take over territory, make canada the 51st state. he keeps on saying it. talk about taking over greenland or trying to panama canal, gaza strip, all of these things while he's at the same time singing the praises and cozying up to vladimir putin, who clearly wants to do the same thing in europe. you have mbs that he is buddying up with in in saudi arabia. he has, you know, generally nice things to say about president xi. is there anything that you're going to be looking for in terms of the actions that are taken that will either steer you toward an idea that donald trump's trying to remake the world order to lift those powers up or away from

that? >> well, in this particular meeting, we'll all be looking out for tangible commitments. i mean, if something on ukraine, some advances agreed upon, then at what cost? you know, what does ukraine have to give up out of everything that's been discussed so far? but most of all, are there security guarantees? that is the one thing that i think, you know, any ceasefire. and then further on a peace deal, it hinges upon a security guarantee for which the united states would need to be a part of. otherwise, europe really doesn't need it in that same way. and we've begun to see european leaders really move in a direction where they say that, you know, at some point we have to figure out now more than ever before how to take care of ourselves. that conversation is accelerating. but in the here and now, they're all at least a decade away from that point. and so security guarantees is still the thing that all of them will keep pushing trump for.

>> jillian. >> let me ask you about tariffs again. and the eu. why does donald trump say that the us is being taken advantage of. why does he believe the us is being taken advantage of? >> well. >> he thinks he thinks he is being taken advantage of by everybody is the reality. his specific complaints. >> revolve around. >> issues like the level of tariffs imposed on car imports. he complains that those are unfair. he also complains that europe should not be imposing regulatory controls on american tech companies. he thinks that's another sign of unfair behavior. and of course, he also takes exception to some of the green controls that europe is trying to introduce as well. but, you know, the reality is he complains about being taken advantage of right across the board. and it's part of his negotiating style and strategy. and certainly european leaders would roundly reject those allegations. >> do they.

>> have any. >> leverage to push back on on trump. >> was a very interesting question because the reality is, having spoken to trump officials in recent days about this, the reality is that the white house right now is far more focused on china and russia than it is on europe, and there's a very strong sense that they want to try and cozy up with russia, to essentially isolate china and break some of the russian-chinese links. and so, in some ways, the europe is a bit of a sideshow in terms of the military strategy. and it's also a bit of a sideshow economically, because many of the american officials view europe's economy as being hopelessly stagnant, antiquated, and really not that exciting a place to be doing business with. now, in reality, there are lots of american companies who are very big footprints in europe and in the service sector. there certainly is a lot that europe does, and it's very important, particularly the uk. but, you

know, actually europe is in a pretty weak position right now. and the level of, you know, condescension and sneering comments, scathing comments from white house officials around europe are on a level that i've never heard before. >> and, michael, tomorrow. yes, tomorrow is friday. >> i'm trying to. remember what day of the week it is tomorrow. we expect vladimir zelensky to be at the white house. and donald trump says they're going to sign this rare earth minerals deal. but vladimir zelensky, as i understand it, said the deal had not been finalized. do you know what the daylight is? >> well. >> a lot of it is in the specifics. there's a lot of daylight, or rather details. you know, the devil is in the details. it's a it's a devilish document right now. and i actually think that's in zelensky's interest. so to go back to one of the big themes that we've been talking about here. how do foreign leaders appease trump? how do they play

trump? we i think, are in agreement that it what you do is you give them the theatrics, you give them the photo ops, you give them the reality show. and so i think from zelensky's perspective, if the deal, if the details are not nailed down, that's better than some of the an earlier version of the document, which was actually more detailed in a way that was worse for ukraine, more economic sacrifice, more commitment to america, and no security guarantees. i think the ukrainians are holding out hope that there will be some kind of commitment, some kind of reassurances from the united states to back them up in some kind of a peace settlement with russia, and that the economic terms might be a little bit more forgiving. so if you have that ambiguity, what do you do if you're zelensky, you can go to washington and have an event with the president in the oval office and give him what he wants. you come as obviously

sort of implicitly as as a supplicant. you're kissing his ring. he's forced you to do this. he's he's got you bending to his will. you have this momentous event. all the cameras are going to be there. everyone's going to be talking about it. and that will be very satisfying to trump. and then having kind of earned that goodwill, can you then negotiate the particular terms that you left unresolved and that are more important to you than those theatrics? and so i think that's the thing to watch. >> in. talking about security guarantees, one of the things that donald trump implied earlier when he was being asked questions by reporters was that if you have american private companies there mining for these this, these rare earth minerals, that in itself will be a deterrent for russia. can you. >> play that. >> out for me? why would that be a deterrent? >> well. >> it gives us. >> two things. one, it it's a

deterrent for the russians who, you know, as we, the russians don't want to kill americans. the russians don't want to get into a fight with america. and particularly right now when they're starting to have this breakthrough with donald trump, vladimir putin is looking to have a almost cooperative relationship with president trump. you wouldn't want to risk hurting any american workers, damaging american infrastructure, causing harm to american economic assets, on the one hand, and on the other. if you do have a major american business investment in ukraine that provides an incentive for trump and the u.s. government to protect those american business interests. we do that all the time, all over the world. the military comes in particularly. i can think of examples in africa, for instance, i think in nigeria, you had big oil producing companies and they were having their workers kidnaped, and the u.s. navy came and helped to fight that off. so

there can be a role for the u.s. military to protect, to protect american economic interests. and we all know that when donald trump thinks about what is in america's interest. what am i going to use the military for? it's probably not going to be going in somewhere to protect human rights, but if it is going to protect american assets and economic activity, i think from the way he talks, that's a much more defensible calculus. >> that's a good point. michael crowley, ravi agarwal and gillian tett, thank you so much. i know, michael, you are going to be sticking around for us as we await this bilateral to begin this bilateral news conference between the prime minister of the u.k, keir starmer, and the american president, donald trump. we're going to keep an eye on this. we are going to sneak in a very quick break. still ahead, can republicans avoid a government shutdown without any democratic support? what both sides stand to lose and possibly to gain if they let the lights go out? plus, what

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budget resolutions. the gop, that is, but they only have until march 14th to iron out the details. that gives them just over two weeks to figure out an accounting trick that shrinks the budget to where president trump wants it, while protecting the policies and the programs their constituents rely on. joining us now, nbc news chief capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles. how will it all work? >> yeah, well, you know, we're these are. >> two different things when. >> we're talking about reconciliation. >> and the budget plan. and then the appropriations. >> package, which comes. >> due. >> on march 14th. and so. there is a lot of back and forth that has to happen between now and march 14th. >> and the other important. >> thing to keep in mind about this, katie, is that they cannot keep the government open without democratic support. this is something that needs 60 votes in the. >> senate. >> in order to pass. unlike the reconciliation package. >> which would only. >> require 51. so now house and senate leaders are going back and forth about the best way.

>> forward when it comes to this plan. and it could mean just. >> what they call a. >> continuing resolution that. basically keeps spending levels. >> at the. >> same level for at. >> least a year. >> while they then iron out. >> the issues with this other. >> budget proposal. >> that they're talking about. and the house passed that budget. >> resolution, which there's no real. >> timeline on. they can have quite a bit of time to get that passed. and the house really believes that because they were able to pass theirs, that the senate needs to come along and get. >> on board. >> with what they passed. listen to what speaker johnson said about it yesterday. >> how many. changes will you be able. >> to stomach? as little as possible, and i've articulated that over and over because, as demonstrated last night, we have a very small needle to thread here, and we have sort of an equilibrium equilibrium point amongst people with competing priorities. and we deviate from that too much. we have a problem. so senate understands that. and i think we'll have a product that both chambers can agree to. >> and this gets. >> into what you were talking about before, katie, is. >> that they've. >> only built a. framework here

around. >> the. >> budget proposal, and. >> they now need to fill in the details. >> around it. so the question. >> then becomes, how. >> do you cut $2 trillion from the budget? also extend tax cuts to the tune of $4.5 trillion and then at the same time. >> not touch. >> those third rail. programs like medicare, medicaid and social security, and then also not blow a massive hole in the deficit. republicans claim that they've got a way to do all of that. they keep pointing to waste, fraud. >> and abuse. >> as the solution. to all of this, but it seems very hard pressed to see how they can meet all these competing goals and do it in a way that will have enough votes in both the house. >> and the senate. >> yeah, the numbers. >> don't quite match up. you're talking about how they don't have a time frame for the budget resolution, but there is the time frame of having to keep the lights on in congress. so. are they going to their obviously first going to have to figure out how to keep the lights on. then i wonder, how much pressure do they expect donald trump to

put on them to get this. >> thing passed. >> he wants those $4.5 trillion in tax cuts, and he wants to be able to deliver that, i assume, sooner rather than later. i'm not sure that he'd be happy with a year long wait. >> no, you're absolutely right. >> and we say that there's no. physical deadline. >> that they have. >> to put on themselves. >> really. >> the only deadline. >> that they would have. >> would be the next election, because. >> if they were to. >> lose one of the chambers, they would then lose. >> this opportunity to pass. >> the. >> agenda through with only republican votes. >> but donald trump needs. >> a lot of this funding to get through as soon as possible. for instance, he needs funding. >> for his mass. >> deportation plan. he can't wait on that. >> so he wants to get. >> this package done as quickly as possible. and i think. that's when you start to see perhaps some creative accounting tricks. you see, perhaps the senate use some different. formulas to come up with their long term forecast as to how this might impact the deficit going forward, how it will be paid for. and i. >> think. there's going to be. >> a lot. >> of questions. >> as to whether or not those accounting tricks actually. >> right themselves.

>> with the rules of the senate, and especially as it applies to this reconciliation package and the rules around reconciliation, not to get too far into the weeds. so, yeah, there's a lot that's. >> going to be. >> done here. and yeah, go. >> ahead and finish i'm sorry. >> no. and the point you the point you were making about the pressure that donald trump could put on them, you know, the. >> the reason that the. >> senate abides by these rules is because they. >> don't want a. >> precedent set down the road. so we're going to make sure that we abide by the filibuster rule. we're going to abide by the rulings of the parliamentarian, because if we change those rules and lose power, well, then the democrats will be able to do it the next time they have power. so there's a lot at stake here as we go through this process to give donald trump everything that he wants, but then. also do so within the confines of the rules. >> of the. >> senate and house. >> ryan nobles, we're keeping an eye right now on the east room of the white house, where donald trump is going to be having a bilateral meeting. i'm looking down at my monitor with keir starmer, the prime minister of the uk, and we're going to watch it because it's beginning right now. thank you ryan.

>> thank you. >> prime minister starmer. you've been terrific in our discussions. you're a very tough negotiator. however, i'm not sure i like that. but that's okay. very, very special person. the prime minister and i have gotten off to an outstanding start. the us and uk have a special relationship. very special. really like no other. passed down through the centuries and we're going to keep it that way. we're going to keep it very strong as it is. and very importantly, i was just notified by letter from king charles that he's extended through the prime minister, a historic second state visit to the united kingdom. and that's a great honor because it's never happened before. one person has never been extended that honor. and i really do call it an honor, but it's not for me. it's for our country. it's respect for our country. so i just want to thank you, and i want to thank king charles. thank you

very much. and we accept i don't know if the media is going to follow us. i have a feeling they might. okay. thank you very much. appreciate it. i'm pleased to say that the bust of one of the prime minister's greatest predecessors, winston churchill, is now back in the rightful place in the oval office, and we're very proud of it. our meeting today and the various breakout sessions we had were tremendously productive. most importantly, i provided the prime minister with an update on our efforts to end the bloody and horrible war in ukraine with russia, which would never have happened if i were president. that was not going to happen. i promise you that after three years of hellacious conflict, approximately 1 million ukrainians and russians have been senselessly killed. but the number, i believe, is much higher than that. countless schools, hospitals, towns and beautiful ancient churches have been absolutely obliterated. to

begin the process of ending this spiral of death, i had historic back to back calls with president putin. very successful calls, i might add, and president zelenskyy and my team also spoke with the secretary general of nato and numerous occasions. and we're working very hard to get that war brought to an end. i think we've made a lot of progress. i think it's moving along pretty rapidly, and i want to thank all of the people that are here that have been working on it, and we'll let you know what's what happens. it will either be fairly soon or it won't be at all. in addition, this week i met with president macron of france, as you know, and held talks with members of the g7. tomorrow, the progress toward peace will continue. when president zelenskyy visits the white house. he'll be here tomorrow in the early part of

the day, and we'll be signing a historic agreement that will make the united states a major partner in developing ukraine's minerals and rare earths and oil and gases, and we have a great understanding. i think it's going to be great for ukraine. we're going to be at the site and we'll be we'll be digging. we'll be dig, dig, dig, dig. we must a big utility in new york, con edison. they used to have a sand dig. we must and we will be digging. but much of the european aid to ukraine has been sent in the form of loans for which they expect to be paid back. and we didn't have that honor under the biden administration. he sent money. just send it money after money after money, and never had any, any knowledge of ever seeing it back, maybe 300 to $350 billion. but under the breakthrough agreement, very unusual, which

everyone said was difficult to get. but it's really very good for ukraine and very good for us. the american taxpayers will now effectively be reimbursed for the money, and hundreds of billions of dollars poured into helping ukraine defend itself, which by and of itself is a very worthy thing to do. we've paid far more than any other country, and with most of our support it's been paid in military, the finest weapons anywhere in the world. this includes vast amounts of military hardware, ammunition, and various other things that we now have to start rebuilding our own stockpiles. additionally, the minerals agreement will provide the basis for a more sustainable future relationship between the united states and ukraine and thus stimulate the long term prosperity that will help the ukrainians rebuild their country. it's been demolished and the ruined infrastructure,

the infrastructure, as you know, is in very bad shape. in just over one month, our administration has already achieved more progress toward peace than years in the other administration, where they did nothing toward peace. they didn't understand what was happening. our approach is basically common sense. as i said, so many of the things that we do are based on common sense. if you want peace, you have to talk both sides. as i discussed with prime minister starmer, the next step we're making is toward a very achievable cease fire. we hope that that can happen quickly, because thousands of young people in this case, we're not talking about americans, we're talking about ukrainians and russians are being killed every week. thousands. and it's a rough battlefield. it's a flat piece of land, and the bullet only stops when it hits somebody. and this week i saw

the reports and it's i don't even want to say what what they are, but thousands of people, young people, young, vibrant people died. and we want to stop that senseless should have never happened. this will lay the groundwork for a long term peace agreement that will return stability to eastern europe, and hopefully ensure that such a terrible war will never happen on european soil, or for that matter, anywhere. again, it's a it's a horrible thing that's going on. the disaster in ukraine shows exactly why it's so important for the united kingdom and other nato partners to make large investments in their defense capabilities, in many cases, 4% or 5% of gdp would be appropriate. i know that they're raising it. i just read an article, a great article about the work you're doing in the uk. as to the military, you're raising it quite a bit, which is a great thing to do for

your country. it's a great thing to do. it's sad that we need that, but probably need that. so congratulations on that. i know you got it through. after years of chronic underfunding, there's an urgent need to catch up for some countries. and i want to thank the prime minister once again for traveling here today, working together. i believe that we'll once again demonstrate the power of our country's unique friendship. this is indeed a unique friendship. it's been many years, and i think it's only gotten stronger. and we will make sure that it stays that way. we're going to have a great trade agreement one way or the other. we're going to end up with a very good trade agreement for both countries, and we're working on that as we speak. i think we'll have the confines. i think we'll have something maybe even in terms of possibilities, agreed to very shortly is working on a vice president. and

scott and i'm just looking this over. mike, you're going to work on it. everyone's going to work on it. we'll see if we can do something pretty quickly, but we're going to make some great trade agreements with the uk and with the prime minister, and it will happen very quickly. so i just want to thank you again and please thank king charles for the invite and look forward to your giving our acceptance on behalf of the united states of america. thank you very much, sir. thank you. >> thank you. thank you. >> well. >> thank. you very much. >> mr. president. thank you for your hospitality. thank you for your leadership. this has been a very good and very. >> productive visit. and with your. >> family roots. >> in. >> scotland and your. >> close bond. >> with his majesty the king, it's good to know that the united kingdom has a. >> true friend. >> in the oval office. >> and it was so. >> good. >> to see the bust. >> of winston churchill back in its rightful place just. >> a. moment ago. but look, in a moment of. >> real danger around the world,

the relationship. this relationship matters. >> more than ever. >> we remain. each other's first partner in defense, ready to come. >> to the other's. >> aid, to. counter threats. >> wherever and whenever they may arise. >> no two. >> militaries are more. intertwined than ours. >> no two. >> countries have done more. >> together to keep people safe. >> and in a. >> few weeks. we mark ve. >> day, the. >> 80th anniversary of. >> victory in europe. britain and america fought side by side to make. that happen. >> one of the. >> greatest. >> moments in our history. we stand side. by side still. >> today. >> and we're focused. >> now on. >> bringing an enduring end. >> to. >> the barbaric. >> war in ukraine. >> mr. president, i. >> welcome your deep and personal. >> commitment to bring peace and to stop the killing. >> you've created. >> a moment. >> of tremendous opportunity to reach. >> a. >> historic peace deal, a deal

that i think would be. celebrated in. ukraine and around. >> the world. >> that is the prize. >> but we have. >> to get it right. there's a famous slogan. >> in the. united kingdom from after the second world war, that is, that we. >> have to win. >> the peace. >> and that is what. >> we. >> must do now. because it can't be peace. >> that. >> rewards the. >> aggressor. >> or that gives. >> encouragement to regimes. >> like iran. >> we agree history must be. >> on the. >> side of the peacemaker, not the invader. >> so the stakes, they. >> couldn't be. >> higher. >> and we're determined to work. together to deliver a good deal. >> we've discussed a. >> plan. today to reach a peace that is tough. and fair. >> that ukraine will help shape. >> that's backed by strength to stop putin. >> coming back for. >> more, i'm working. >> closely with other. >> european leaders. >> on. >> this, and. >> i am clear. that the uk. >> is. >> ready to put boots on the

ground and planes in. >> the. air to. >> support a. >> deal working together with our. >> allies, because that is. >> the only. >> way that. peace will last. >> mr. president. >> in this new era. you're also right that europe. >> must step up. >> and let. >> me tell you. >> now, i see. >> the growing threats. >> we face. >> and so the uk. >> is all in. >> this year. >> will be giving more. >> military aid. >> to ukraine than ever. and just. >> this week, i have set out how. >> we are shouldering more. >> of the. >> security burden. we're already one of the. >> biggest spenders in nato. >> and now. >> we're going. much further, delivering britain's biggest sustained increase in defense spending since. >> the. >> cold war. >> this isn't. >> just talk. >> it's action. >> rebalancing the. >> transatlantic alliance. >> making us. all stronger and. >> standing up. >> for our shared values and shared. >> security, as. britain always has. mr. president, it's.

>> no secret we're from different political traditions, but there's. >> a. >> lot that we. have in common, and. >> we believe. >> it's. >> not taking. part that counts. >> what counts is winning. >> if you don't win, you. >> don't deliver. and we're determined to deliver for the working people of britain and america who want and deserve to see their lives improve. so we're both in a hurry to get things done. and that's what the uk and us do. when we work together, we win and we get things done. so we'll do what it takes to keep our people safe. we'll also work together to deliver some big economic wins that can benefit us both. we have a $1.5 trillion invested in each other's economies, creating over 2.5 million jobs across both economies. >> our trading. >> relationship is not just strong. >> it's fair, balanced.

>> and reciprocal. we're leaders. >> together in so many areas, ranked one and two in the world as investment destinations, one and two for universities, one and two for nobel prizes, one and two in golf as well, by the way. and we're the only two western countries with trillion dollar tech sectors, leaders in ai. and look, we take a similar approach on this. issue. instead of overregulating these new technologies, we're seizing the opportunities that they offer. so we've decided today to go further, to begin work on a new economic deal with advanced technology at its core. look, our two nations together shaped the great technological innovations of the last century. we have a chance now to do the same for the 21st century. >> i mean. >> artificial intelligence could cure cancer. that could be a

moonshot for our age. and that's how we'll keep delivering for our people. there are so many opportunities. keep our nation strong and fulfill the promise of greatness that has always defined this relationship. finally, to undermine, to underline the importance of this bond, it was my privilege and honor to bring a letter with me today from his majesty the king, not only sending his best wishes, but also inviting the president and the first lady to make a state visit to the united kingdom. an unprecedented second state visit. this has never happened before. it's so incredible. it will be historic, and i'm delighted that i can go back to his majesty the king and tell him that president trump has accepted the invitation. so thank you. our teams will now work together to set a date, and we look forward to welcoming you in the united kingdom. thank you once again.

>> thank you very much. what a beautiful accent. >> yeah. >> i would have been president 20 years ago if i had that accent. >> thank you. >> so much. >> thank you, thank you. >> thank your questions. >> okay. let's see here. go ahead please. >> thank you, mr. president. >> earlier today. >> you told me. that you believe. >> that foreign. >> countries pay tariffs. >> but americans who are concerned about higher prices believe, as most people do, that they're paid by consumers and importers when. >> they import. >> things into this country. can you explain how you came to this belief that foreign governments are. >> paying tariffs? >> and for the prime minister, did you discuss with president trump his repeated statements of desire to annex canada? and has. >> the king expressed any concern.

>> over the. >> president's apparent. >> desire to remove. >> one of his. >> realms from. >> his control? >> so i'll go ahead to the first part. the tariffs are necessary because we've been treated very unfairly by many, many countries, including our friends, friend and foe. but we've been treated very unfairly in trade at levels that nobody has really ever seen before, and especially under the biden administration. they really took advantage of the united states. i put massive tariffs on china during my four years. we had the best economy in the history of our country, probably the best economy, maybe the best economy in the history of the world. and i had i used tariffs to even things up, and in particular with china, we took in hundreds of billions of dollars and we had no inflation. and it's a myth. it's a myth that's put out there by foreign countries that really don't like paying tariffs, and especially to even

up. so we've been treated badly by a lot. we're using tariffs. and i find and you just have to look at the numbers. but i find that it's not about inflation. it's about fairness. and the inflation for us has not existed. and i don't think it's going to exist. we're going to bring our car industry back. we're going to bring our chips back. we're going to bring so many things back to our country, including pharmaceuticals and drugs. and the thing that's going to get us there is tariffs. and i say often it's my favorite word in the dictionary. but i always preface it by saying now, because i got into a lot of trouble with the fake news where they say, that's not good. so i say, god, love, family, wife. they're all my favorite words. but tariff is about number 4 or 5 on the list. but i will tell you, it's going to make our country rich, and it's going to stop us from being a laughing stock all over the world because we have been taken advantage of like no country has ever been taken advantage of.

thank you very much. >> and look, we had a really good discussion, a productive discussion, a good discussion, as a result of which our teams are now going to be working together on an economic deal. our team is going to be working together on security in ukraine. you mentioned canada. i think you're trying to find a divide between us that doesn't exist. we're the closest of nations and we had very good discussions today, but we. >> didn't in canada. thank you. please go ahead. go ahead. yes. thank you. thank you. >> thank you. hi, natasha. hi. mr. president, you've said you're working on a new trade deal with britain, which we, of course, welcome. president obama once said britain was at the back of the queue for. >> that trade deal. >> where are we now? when do you think we'll. we're going to see that. and prime minister, the bbc has today admitted serious flaws over the recent gaza coverage, suggestions of payments made to people linked to hamas. does the. >> bbc. >> bbc still have your trust? thank you. >> well, they didn't do well with president obama. he never

got a lot of things done and he didn't get a trade deal done that was of any importance or magnitude we have. we've had great discussions on trade, and i think we're going to have a deal done rather quickly, as quickly as it can be done. we're going to have something, i think rather quickly. we expect to do that. okay. please. >> on the bbc, look, i've been concerned about the program in question. the secretary of state had a meeting with the bbc. i think it was yesterday. could have been the day before. thank you. >> jeff. go ahead. >> thank you sir. >> pardon me mr. president. >> do you. >> support article five of the nato treaty? and are you. concerned that. >> it might be triggered. >> if european. >> peacekeeping forces. >> end up in ukraine? >> i support it, i don't think we're going to have any reason for it. i think we're going to have a very successful peace. and i think it's going to be a long lasting peace. and i think it's going to happen hopefully quickly. if it doesn't happen

quickly, it may not happen at all. and we want it for two reasons. number one, i want to see on a humane basis, i want to see soldiers stop getting shot because largely it's soldiers. now, towns have been obliterated. but it's largely that. and i don't want to pay billions and billions and billions of dollars, nor does the prime minister or anybody else on a senseless war. that should have never happened, and we're going to get it taken care of. but i think it's going to be a piece that's going to be long lasting. do you have a question for the prime minister? >> thank you. >> mr. prime minister. you were asking. >> the. >> president today about a backstop. >> for europe. if the. >> peacekeeping force ends up in ukraine. >> did you feel like you got a satisfying answer for. >> yourself and for europe? and, mr. >> president, if you want to comment on that as well, please do. >> i thought we had a very productive discussion. obviously, as the president says, the deal has to come first. but yes, our teams are

going to be talking about how we make sure that deal sticks is lasting and enforced. so our teams will be talking about that. >> okay. please, blue. >> mr. president. >> some experts. >> think. >> it could take more than. >> a decade. >> to. >> mine the precious minerals. >> from ukraine. >> how much should the us. >> expect to receive. >> and when do you expect. >> to. >> see that come. >> to fruition? >> well, we're never going to know that answer. but by our being in ukraine and doing the exploration and also the digging and taking the rare earth which we need in our country very badly, we'll be doing a substantial amount of work, probably about at least what we have in there, and we hope to be able to do that. you never know when it comes to that. you know, you dig and maybe things aren't there like you think they're there, but we'll be spending a lot of time there. it will be great for ukraine. it's like a huge economic development

project. so it will be good for both countries. okay. please. >> prime minister. >> excuse me. >> prime minister. >> you've talked. >> about putting british soldiers boots on the ground in ukraine. in the event that president trump succeeds with his peace deal. >> but can. >> you do that. >> without a firm. assurance that america. >> will have. >> our. >> back in the form of some kind of security guarantee. >> were putin. >> to breach that agreement? >> and, mr. president. >> tomorrow you're seeing president. zelensky to sign this deal on minerals and energy. that could. >> be hugely. >> important to the united states. will you take the opportunity. >> to apologize to. >> him. >> for calling him a. dictator while praising. >> vladimir putin. >> who is a dictator? >> well, robert, let me start by

saying, i've been really clear today and previously that i think that european countries, including the united kingdom, need to step up in our own defense and security. we've been doing that in recent days. you saw the announcement we made on spending just the other day. in addition to that, i've made it clear that the united kingdom will play its full part in ensuring that if there's a deal and we hope there is a deal in ukraine, that that is a lasting deal that sticks. and we're obviously working with other european countries on that, france and nato in particular. but we've i've got i think i'm hosting 18 countries on sunday to further our discussions. you heard from the president this morning that, you know, as as historically has always been the case. we have each other's backs. and today we've been talking about the deal, how that will be a lasting deal. and coming out of this, our teams

will now be talking in detail about that. >> and i think we're going to have a very good meeting tomorrow, 11:00. and i think we're going to have a very good meeting tomorrow morning. we're going to get along really well. okay. we have a lot of respect. i have a lot of respect for him. we've given him a lot of equipment and a lot of money, but they have fought very bravely. no matter how you figure it, they have really fought. somebody has to use that equipment and they have been very brave in that sense. yeah. please go ahead. is that. >> the cease fire. >> deal is. >> nearing an end. >> this saturday. >> and there's been some worry. >> that phase two. might never get there. do you believe that phase two of the ceasefire in gaza. >> will come to fruition? >> and have. >> you spoken to netanyahu. about it? and for the prime. >> minister. >> this peacekeeping. >> deal has been pushed forward. >> by the uk. >> and france as well. >> have you. >> been in discussions with any other european countries. >> to. >> join this this initiative? >> and are you expecting. >> commonwealth countries to. >> also join the effort? >> thank you.

>> so we're working very hard in the middle east and gaza and all of the problems. and it's been going on for years and years and centuries and centuries. it's a it's a tough neighborhood, but it could be a very beautiful neighborhood. and i think we're going to come up with some pretty good solutions. but. phase one is almost complete. we've had some people that have been very seriously injured, very seriously hurt, both physically and mentally. they've come out of there very, very some of them are in very, very bad shape. shocking. many young people, young people aren't in bad shape. young people are strong, healthy. they don't die. people have come out dead young people and old people. it's a rough situation, but i think we're going to make it much better. and i think that we've had a huge impact on that since we've been in just the four weeks. i think we've had a huge impact on gaza, the middle east, and we have some pretty good

talks going on concerning lots of other people that are going to make it better. so we'll see what happens. nobody really knows, but we'll see what happens. but i think we've had a very positive impact. prime minister. >> yeah. on the question of the european countries. yes, i've spoken to a number of countries, particularly in the last few weeks. we had a meeting in paris last week. i've got a meeting on sunday with 18 countries to further our discussions. obviously, we've been talking quite intensely to our french colleagues and to nato, but to other countries as well, because, as i say, i think it's important for european countries, including the united kingdom, to step up and do more in the defense and security of europe and our continent and the united kingdom, and we will do so well. we're talking to a number of other countries. >> thank you. yes. in the red, please. pink, red, flaming red.

>> is it me. >> or go ahead. >> okay. thank you. >> mr. president. a question on ukraine. number one. is if you're not considering the security guarantees, are you open to other forms of, for example, intelligence cooperation with ukraine? and mr. prime minister, president trump has proposed a plan for gaza. does this fit into the two state solution that the uk held for a long time? do you see it fit into your general middle eastern strategy? thank you so much. >> yeah, thank you very much. we're open to many things. but before i even think about that, that's almost pleasant to think about because that would mean that peace has been arrived at. we have to arrive at that peace. and, you know, you went three and a half years with an administration that never even really had a meeting. they didn't have a meeting on peace, and there was no prospect of peace. i think, frankly, russia wanted to go through the whole

long deal. i don't think they do anymore. i don't think they do. we had a very big impact on that whole situation, but i don't like talking about phase two until i get phase one. phase one is i have to make peace and we have to get russia to agree. we have to get ukraine to agree. and i think we will. i think we've come a long way. i believe we're going to get it done. i wouldn't say that if i didn't think so. and i think it will be very important, very historic. and we're going to save a lot of a lot of lives. >> on the question of gaza. the last few weeks of the ceasefire have been very impactful. and for me, there are two images that i remember more than any other. the first is emily dhamari, who is british, being reunited with her mother. you may remember she had her fingers missing after what she endured. that was an incredible moment. i

had spent a lot of time with her mother whilst she was held captive, and her mother went through absolute torture. the other image was thousands of palestinians marching through rubble, trying to return to their communities and their homes. so we have to do everything we can to ensure that the ceasefire continues so that more hostages can be returned, so that aid can be brought in that's desperately needed. and we need to allow palestinians to return and to rebuild their lives. and we must all support them in doing that. and yes, i believe that the two state solution is ultimately the only way for a lasting peace in the region. >> and think of that. she came home with her fingers and part of her hand blown off. >> that's terrible. >> how bad does it get? and we had others that came home in much, much worse shape than that. yeah, it's a terrible

situation. please. yes. >> okay. >> thank you. >> mr. president. did our prime minister persuade you not to put tariffs on the uk? and if i may, prime minister, do you think that vladimir putin is a man who will keep his word? thanks. >> he tried. he was working hard, i'll tell you that. he he earned whatever the hell they pay him over there. but he tried. we i think there's a very good chance that in the case of these two great, friendly countries, i think we could very well end up with a real trade deal where the tariffs wouldn't be necessary. we'll see. but he's, he earned whatever they whatever they pay him, he earned today. he was working hard at lunch. and i'm very receptive to it. i think we in all fairness, in all seriousness, i think we have a very good chance of arriving at a very good deal. jd and