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>> with ukraine's. >> future on the line? plus. >> the judge dealing. >> a blow to. >> elon musk's. doge as hundreds. >> of meteorologists are the latest. let go in the. sweeping slash and burn. also ahead, the growing mystery surrounding the deaths of. >> actor gene. >> hackman and his wife. >> and why police are now calling it. >> suspicious. >> and another. >> state reports a case of measles. >> as local health officials sound a growing alarm over the widening outbreak. >> it's ten. >> eastern, 7 a.m. pacific. >> happy friday. i'm ana cabrera. >> reporting from. >> new york. let's get. >> right to the breaking news at the white house, where ukraine's. president is set to arrive in a little less than an. >> hour for today's. >> high stakes. >> meeting with president trump. >> and it comes amid. >> their publicly eroding diplomatic relationship with trump, calling zelensky. a dictator and blaming. ukraine

for. russia's invasion. joining us now, former ambassador to russia michael mcfaul. >> and igor. >> novikov, a former adviser to zelensky. igor, as we are anticipating this arrival, given. >> you were a. >> senior advisor for. >> zelensky, what. >> would be your or your. advice today as he's getting ready to talk to trump? >> well, i would separate emotions. >> from, you know, the practical side of. >> things, because. if we look at this. potential agreement. >> it's actually a. >> good news for both. >> ukraine and. >> the united states. as long as it's. >> not. >> zero sum, as long as it's made in the same manner. and benefits both countries. now, since both presidents have background in show business, obviously. >> their way of communicating, their way of basically negotiating is somewhat theatrical. >> so i would personally just advise president zelensky. to focus on the practical side of things and ignore everything

else. >> also joining us right now is nbc's garrett haake, who is at the white house. >> garrett, what is the white house saying. >> ahead of this meeting? >> well, ana, this will be interesting. >> because the president's tone. >> has changed dramatically. >> on president zelensky. >> over the. >> past several years and over the past several. >> days. >> the two had. >> had a very positive. >> relationship during the. >> first trump administration, despite. >> the impeachment. that centered on ukraine. >> and the. >> president had been working with the ukrainians, at least in theory, on this minerals. >> deal until last week, when this he. >> made this comment. about zelensky being a dictator. then yesterday, during the visit. >> of the british prime minister, the president. >> took a much. warmer tone towards zelensky, suggesting that they can in fact work together on. >> this. >> critical minerals deal. >> and seeming to back away from that comment. take a little bit of a listen to what the president. said yesterday that may be setting the table for today. >> we're going to be signing really a very important agreement for both sides, because it's really going to get us into that country. we'll be

working there. we'll have a lot of people working there. and so in that sense, it's very good. it's a backstop. you could say, i don't think anybody's going to play around if we're there with a lot of workers. >> i think that mr. zelensky is a dictator. >> did i say that? i can't believe i said that. next question. >> and of. >> course, he. >> did. >> say that. >> and i think. >> part of. >> this matters because, somewhat uniquely to. this president and. >> donald trump. >> is just incredibly relationship. focused when it comes to conducting foreign policy. >> he wants to get along. with the person. >> who's sitting in front of him. >> when he does. >> so, he's. >> more effective. that's why you see foreign leaders plan for these visits the way they do. that's why you see them heap compliments on president trump the way they do. >> vladimir zelenskyy knows that. >> as well as anybody, and i expect we'll see a lot of that same. dynamic in their various. appearances here together at the white house today. >> ambassador mcfaul, you just heard those comments from president trump yesterday. asked about calling zelensky a dictator, and i quote, did i say

that? i can't believe i said that. what do you make of. that apparent amnesia? >> think when you're with your allies and your base or you're on social media. you can say wacky, crazy things. that's when he called him a dictator. and when you're sitting next to the prime minister of our closest. >> ally. >> you're more reluctant to say wacky, crazy things. and i take that as a good sign. not a bad sign. he is. very relational in his diplomacy. >> it doesn't. >> always lead to results, by the way. >> he had good. >> relations with putin for four years. never resulted in anything. the first time around, kim jong un comes to mind as well. but this is a good moment because zelensky understands that he is the one that said, i'll sign this deal, which i think the ukrainians did a great job of negotiating. by the way, this is a good deal for both sides, as igor said, because it doesn't have many details. i think people will be kind of

surprised when they see it. there's not a lot of substance here. it's all aspirational. but zelensky used that moment to say, i want to sign it with you personally, president trump, he's the one that wanted to come to washington so that he could get in the room with the president, because he understands that that is the way you do business with donald trump. >> what do you make, igor, of. >> this change. >> in tone when it comes to trump's characterization of president zelensky? >> it was expected. >> i mean, it's. >> all a show like, look, as i said, you have to separate the emotional and the theatrics from the actual things that are happening. the more important, there are two important things happening that we're kind of not seeing because of all the theatrics. first of all, yes, it is a good deal because it's vague and it all comes down to further deals that will be kind of, you know, additional to this deal. so the details will be in the next deal. that's really important. and that's when the next round of negotiations will actually happen. and i expect to

see a lot more theatrics when that is happening. secondly, you know, from the trump's tone of voice, i'm kind of i'm i'm sensing that he's not. getting what he was expecting to get from russia. hence he kind of he pivots slightly to ukraine. and we see that kind of little detente in in his rhetoric. but i think it's a great thing that they're going to be in the room together. i think this deal is a great story for both countries. >> so, garrett, what type of minerals. >> does ukraine have. >> that the us is interested in? and do. >> we know. >> any. specifics about this potential rare minerals deal? >> well, metals and rare earths are the key things here. things like titanium, of which ukraine has a large supply. uranium, which. is in high demand. >> so two lithium. you know. >> you hear a lot about lithium ion batteries in electric cars and advanced manufacturing. ukraine has large deposits of all of those. the specifics of the deal, as igor rightly points out. >> are a. >> lot. >> in many. >> cases, yet to be worked out.

this is essentially about creating a fund that both countries would have ownership or administration of, that would then invest in projects to mine these minerals. if that sounds like something that would take a long time, it would. and that's also part of the. way in which i think donald. >> trump views. >> this as a kind of security guarantee for ukraine. he's talked about this extensively yesterday, in particular the idea that you would have americans, either contractors or businesses operating in ukraine and in eastern ukraine, specifically working on all of this and that. russia wouldn't want to attack knowing there are americans there. it's a theory that doesn't necessarily want to be tested, but it's part of how he thinks about this. >> ambassador mcfaul, take a listen to what the uk prime minister had to say about president trump's negotiating tactic pushing for this mineral deal. i think we have. >> the sound. >> do we have it? >> you blame. >> the us for taking an

approach. >> that it deserves to be paid. >> back for the money. >> invested in the war? >> well, i'm i can see the value in the approach in relation to minerals, but i can see very clearly the argument that president trump makes in relation to minerals. and i can also see the validity of his point when he says that if there is a deal on minerals, then the us has economic interests in ukraine, which, if you like, form at least one element of any security entity, because that in its own right is an important aspect. >> ambassador mcfaul, do you agree that if the us has skin in the game on these minerals, then that's some kind of security guarantee? presumably they're not going to let russia storm in. >> i don't. >> agree. >> i'm sorry. this is a good deal because it's establishes a relationship between zelensky and trump. it keeps president

trump in the game. but but for me personally, there's one part of that is just morally wrong and then strategically wrong. so morally, i do not like the idea that my country is asking ukraine to reimburse us for assistance that the congress approved in a democratic process. president signed it. there was no clause in that law that said, you have to reimburse us. and when he's sitting next to the prime minister of great britain, we didn't ask the brits to reimburse us for what they did with us in afghanistan and iraq. by the way, the we didn't reimburse the ukrainians who served with us in afghanistan. so this whole concept i am philosophically against. but the second thing about the security guarantees just two things for a minute. if there's trillions of dollars of these minerals in ukraine, why haven't they been mined before? this idea that. you know, they've been sitting on all this wealth and they've

never done it, i'm a little skeptical that it's going to be so easy to create all this wealth. but second, and the most important part, ukraine needs real security guarantees, not business people, you know, not businesses, not miners and their security guards. that is insufficient. moreover, they're those companies are not going to invest billions of dollars for years and years and years. we're talking about mining, right? we're not talking about sandwiches shops where you can come in and out. they're not going to invest that unless there is security. so this is a real chicken and egg problem here. and i support the agreement. i think it's a step in the right direction. but the idea that it's going to serve in lieu of peacekeepers or a membership to nato, i think is, is i'm very skeptical of that. >> well, former ambassador michael mcfaul, igor novikov, thank you both. our thanks to garrett hake as well for his reporting. up next, new doge cuts impacting hundreds of weather forecasters as elon

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this ruling actually have an impact on the ground? >> well. >> that really. >> is the question that remains to be seen here. i mean, you can't unring the bell, right? the memo went out. it can be rescinded. >> as the. >> judge in this case in. california did say. >> he wants. >> to see happen. >> that this memo that. told the agencies to determine whether their probationary employees needed. to be. >> retained or should be retained. >> that was the language in the memo. and the judge said that this order. from opm, the directions from opm, were illegal and should not have been given. you read part of the statement, part of the quote from the judge here as he spoke from the bench in california last night, saying that opm just doesn't have the authority to one agency doesn't have the authority to tell another agency to fire or hire any of its employees. he went a step further and saying that he understood that there would be probationary terminations of employees at the department of defense, and that opm should reach out to the department of defense and tell them that. he says that it would be

inappropriate, that that dod could not fire its probationary employees. as a result of that memo that went out back in january. ana. >> so many layers. so what do you know about this purge of meteorologists and weather experts? >> well, an administration official tells our team that about 5% of the noaa workforce was fired. noaa's the national oceanic and atmospheric atmospheric administration, a part of the department of commerce. but under noaa, you have the national weather service, you have the national hurricane center. and if 5% of about 12,000 employees were cut yesterday, that would roughly be about 600 employees. we were told that this, this, this reduction in force did not include critical positions, did not include functions that were required by law that were mission critical. so we're talking about meteorologists at the national weather service. we understand that they were largely spared. but democrats have expressed concerns, ana,

that reducing the staff in these in these places where these are people who are charged with warning people about hurricanes and tornadoes and nor'easters and all these sorts of weather systems, for example, that can result in large numbers of deaths. there is concern about that workforce being cut to a point where they can't do warning like they need to. >> erin gilchrist, thank you for bringing us the latest. joining us now is the top democrat on the house doge subcommittee, congresswoman melanie stansbury of new mexico. congresswoman, thank you for taking the time. there's this ruling from the judge overnight saying there's no way doge and the office of personnel management can decide who to fire and hire inside these other agencies. do you think that will stop them? well. >> obviously. >> we've seen. >> that donald trump does. >> not abide. >> by the law. >> however, i think it's. >> been very clear. >> since day one that this administration is. >> breaking administrative law. >> it's breaking constitutional separation of powers, it's. >> breaking. >> statutory law, it's. >> breaking appropriations. >> law, and it's breaking personnel laws. and i think the courts have upheld this at

almost every step of the way. and we're going to continue to fight them in the courts. >> in a separate lawsuit, we now know at least one doge staffer will be deposed. it will be the first time someone involved with doge will answer questions under oath from an attorney outside the government. i know you've been trying to get a lot of questions answered. you have asked that elon musk come and testify. but if you had a chance to talk to this staffer, what questions would you ask? well, i. >> think we really. >> need to understand what's happening inside of doge. we have no transparency whatsoever, even though elon musk keeps claiming that there's maximum transparency. they've uploaded a couple of, you know, receipts on twitter and a website, but that is not transparency. the federal government has a ton of laws that require reporting reports to congress, appearing before congress, senate confirmation, and none of those normal institutional processes have been followed. so we want to know who's in charge. what are they doing? why are they doing it? what authority are they

using? and do they actually understand how opposed the american people are? because people both in the white house and here in this building, and the gop seem to think that they can will this into being something that the american people want. and it's very clear from the polling they don't. >> we've heard from elon musk inside the oval office. but are americans any closer to hearing from him under oath? >> yeah. i mean, listen, that was a staged, bizarre display both inside the oval office and the cabinet room. i have never seen anything like that in the history of this country, where you have an outside, unelected, unvetted billionaire standing behind a bunch of senate confirmed cabinet secretaries lecturing them. and then the president asks if anyone's concerned about what he's doing. we know from our gop colleagues. i talked to many on the floor this week. the republicans are opposed to what he's doing, but they're afraid that if they stick their heads up, they raise their hand and they talk about it publicly, they're going to get their heads chopped off. and i think we've all had that boss where we're afraid to say what we're actually thinking. and it was very clear inside that

cabinet room what was going on. >> if we just zoom in to the latest cuts we have learned about noah's staffers laid off, including weather forecasters, meteorologists who provide critical information locally through the national weather service. this is right out of the project 2025 playbook. moves like this, or like gutting the consumer financial protection bureau. who does that help? >> well, that is the question, isn't it? you know, all across this country, literally millions of americans are protesting in the streets. they're showing up to town halls. they're saying, this is not what we voted for. this is not what we want. and it's hurting real americans. in my district, we had teachers at a tribal school who were literally told in the middle of the school day in their classrooms, in front of students that they were underperformers and escorted off of campus. these are teachers who have taught for almost 40 years. what they're doing is decimating the federal government. they're attacking teachers, veterans, firefighters, people who have dedicated their lives to public service. this is this isn't

about helping the american people. it's about looting the federal government, giving elon musk private contracts data, mining americans data, and it's harming the people of this country. >> congresswoman, we also just learned a top doj spokesperson is now resigning due to a, quote, hostile and toxic work environment. already, numerous doj officials have resigned in protest. 21 career staffers at dodge resigned in protest. the administration's posture on this has been basically good riddance. that's what they want people to do. they're trying to downsize. what is your advice to civil servants right now who are dedicated to the work, who care deeply about this country but want to resign? >> you know, i'm not in a position to tell people what decisions they should make about their careers, but i want our federal workers to know that democrats are fighting for them, that we stand with them and that they have rights. and so if they are considering a move in their career, talk to your union, talk

to a lawyer, call your congressperson and let us know how we can help and support you. but we need our federal civil service, so stay strong. we've got your backs and the retaliation and abuse that you're enduring right now is illegal and abusive, and we're not going to stand for it. >> democratic congresswoman melanie stansbury, appreciate your time. thank you very much for joining us. up next here on ana cabrera reports why investigators in new mexico are now saying legendary actor gene hackman's death is, quote, suspicious. plus, growing outbreak measles now rearing its head in washington state as the virus spreads. are we all going virus spreads. are we all going to need measles boosters? home. it's where we do the things we love with the people we love. celebrating, sharing—living. so why should aging mean we have to leave that in the past? what if we lived tomorrow in the same place as we did yesterday?

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spotting their bodies. officials say while they're still so many questions about how they passed and when they passed, it does appear that they may have been deceased for quite some time. this morning, authorities in santa fe revealing new details on the death of legendary actor gene hackman and his wife of 34 years, betsy arakawa. the sheriff says there's no immediate indication of a crime, but admits it's too soon to rule anything out. >> there was no immediate. >> sign of foul play. this is an investigation, so we're keeping everything on the table. >> authorities later saying an autopsy was performed and initial findings noted no external trauma to either hackman or arakawa. but the cause of death hasn't been determined, and official results are still to come. the couple's bodies were found wednesday afternoon, a maintenance worker calling 911 after seeing them through a window. >> are they moving at all? >> no. >> they're not moving. just send somebody out of here really quick. >> in a search warrant affidavit, a detective called the deaths suspicious, writing. the front door of the residence was found unsecured and opened.

the body of hackman, 65 year old wife betsy arakawa, was inside a bathroom, according to deputies, with a space heater nearby and an open prescription pill bottle on the counter. >> all i can say is they have been deceased for quite a while. >> hackman's body was found in a mud room. deputies say it appears he had suddenly fallen with a pair of sunglasses near his body. the couple's german shepherd found dead, according to the sheriff. >> a dog that was in a kennel that was also found deceased. >> while their two other dogs were found alive on the property, neither the fire department nor the gas company found any signs of a gas leak. meanwhile, tributes are pouring in for the two time academy award winner clint eastwood. hackman's costar and director of unforgiven, writing there was no finer actor than gene. he was also a dear friend whom i'll miss very much. and bill murray, who costarred with hackman in the royal tenenbaums, speaking out. >> guy was really, really good. so goodbye, gene. >> i hope. >> you're well. >> wherever you are. >> now, according to the search

warrant, deputies say there's no signs of forced entry into the home. and while there is no sign of trauma to the bodies, officials say that they are actively collecting any kind of sharp or blunt objects in the home that could be used as a weapon. as for the medical investigators, they're not commenting, but they are conducting a full autopsy, which should hopefully determine the cause of death in the coming weeks. back to you. >> liz creutz. thanks. turning now to growing alarm as cases of measles spread across the country, the latest an infant in washington state bringing the number of states now reporting these cases to ten. let's bring in nbc news correspondent sam brock. and, sam, you just got an update out of texas. >> yes. >> so the expectation was the number. >> of cases. >> would grow on. the reality is that's exactly what's happening. texas's state department of health updates every tuesday and friday in terms of the measles cases. we just got the update at 146. now, it was doubling. >> this. >> total case number in texas every week for the last couple. so i guess the good news in all of this, it wasn't a doubling. this time. it's about 20 plus odd new cases that are detected.

you see that 20 hospitalized figure that was from the last update. so i'm not sure if that has risen as well. no surprise here though. of the 120 125 119 of them involved people who were unvaccinated. there was no antiviral therapy that is available for people who have measles, which is to say, doctors are obviously trying to communicate the message as emphatically as they can that people need to get vaccinated. and here's something you may not know if your child is exposed or unvaccinated to measles and gets the shot within the first 72 hours, there's a chance that that could help either prevent infection or lower the type of symptoms they experience. so the messaging right now is so key. that's one aspect of this. the other, as you know, is misinformation right now. and all of the sort of messaging that's coming from in some cases from places of authority in this administration about the efficacy of vaccines. and so a number of doctors at the local level in texas have had to rebut the secretary of health and human services, rfk jr, when he suggested things like, there are people only being hospitalized because they're being quarantined. the doctors have said, no, no, no, that's because of the severity of the illness,

not for quarantine. here is one patient that our jorge solis caught up with, a mom who is trying to get her daughter vaccinated as soon as possible. the mom is from nepal. third world country. totally different perspective on this. take a listen to what she had to say. >> i got measles. >> as a. >> kid because there. >> was no vaccine. >> there was no availability. >> but here in america, where i mean, basically it's. >> free and accessible and. >> there's been. >> a huge amount of research. >> on the benefits. >> of vaccine. >> and yet people choose to, you know, ignore it. >> it's quite a perspective there that she provides. i'm sure a lot of folks right now are sort of nodding their heads. the total number of cases nationally is approaching 170 at this point. now, with this update among ten different states, you mentioned the last two to announce washington state and kentucky with one infection each. if you look at last year, it was 285 for the entire year. we're not quite through february yet, and it's already almost

170. so we'll see where this goes. but the trend line of course is not good. >> scary stuff. sam brock, thanks so much for bringing us up up to date. now measles was declared eliminated here in the u.s. 25 years ago thanks to widespread use of the measles vaccine seen as a historic public health achievement. but before that, take a look at this new york times headline from 1989, when the last significant measles epidemic ravaged houston, los angeles and chicago. measles, not yet a thing of the past, threatens a vast resurgence in 89. well, fast forward to this headline yesterday from the times. do you need a measles booster? so are we going backwards? let's bring in doctor vin gupta, pulmonologist and msnbc medical contributor. doctor, before the vaccine, millions were dying globally. tens of thousands were being hospitalized here in the us. that last major outbreak in the late 80s saw 123 deaths. is it possible it could get that bad again?

>> well, anna. good morning. >> the concern. >> here is that in places like west texas, we're seeing. >> you know, we're talking about this earlier. >> 20%. >> up to 20%. >> exemptions for. >> the childhood measles vaccine in those places. >> and so. >> yes. >> i am worried there will. >> be pockets. >> in the country. >> that will be at. >> very high. >> risk for measles outbreaks. >> and hospitalizations. and just to emphasize. >> a point that sam brought up in his excellent reporting, it was one of the biggest forms of. >> misinformation. >> when secretary. kennedy said that. >> kids were being hospitalized. for quarantine purposes, that's not happening. we've spoken directly to. >> the lubbock. >> texas, spokesperson. >> at the children's. >> hospital caring for. >> these patients. >> they are there for pneumonia. >> and so for. all the parents. >> out there that are that are. >> watching, that have loved ones, perhaps in the region, severe measles causes. severe pneumonia. it is a respiratory viral illness in its worst form. i think we have to. >> be very clear. >> on that. >> so going off the new york times headline there, i wonder, do american adults need measles

boosters given this outbreak? >> yeah. and so this is. >> where i'm going to try to boil it down. >> as. >> clearly as possible. so the going. >> thought here and the questions. >> i. >> get a lot is why before 1957, is it assumed you're good. >> well. >> the idea. there is. >> that you were likely naturally exposed. >> measles was endemic. but what. >> i. >> would. >> say is for anybody that was born before 1957, because you're older, i would want. >> you to get a. >> measles titer. so make an appointment with your primary care. >> provider. >> get a titer. >> if you have any. >> questions or if. you're on a medically compromising medication, or if you have a high risk illness like, say, uncontrolled diabetes. get a titer to see if you need an additional shot. if the complication also on it is if, say, you're born between 1958 and 1989, you might have only gotten one shot. and so my advice to you is just go and get a second shot. i'm in that group. i'm going to get an additional shot. if you're 1990 and older or born after 1990, you've. likely had two shots. >> you're good.

>> okay, that's really, really helpful information, doctor. as the nation is facing this public health crisis, nbc is reporting that the newly sworn in secretary of health and human services, robert f kennedy jr, a longtime vaccine skeptic, has not visited a number of agencies, has not sent all staff emails to the department's workforce, and has not done anything to address this measles outbreak, according to one department official. talk about how politics could impact the response and what that means for us. >> you know. >> i'm worried as a as. >> a physician that what we're seeing is performance politics. we're seeing this in the cancellation on of the vaccine committee meetings that are critical. you know, we don't have time to trifle here. if that flu vaccine meeting doesn't get rescheduled quickly, there's a six month manufacturing cycle for flu vaccines because we need those updated flu shots that are thoughtfully considered in september. so these things performance politics is getting in the way of us actually doing things that will keep people out of the hospital. i worry, and i

empathize with my colleagues that are still in government trying to do the right thing. but yes, this is directly going to impact preparedness. this is going to impact how the w.h.o. and some of our other countries respond in their own regions of the world. so this has broad based impacts. >> well, i know we will be in close touch because this is a developing situation. still. doctor vin gupta, it's good to have you here. happy friday, my friend. >> thank you. >> up next on ana cabrera reports sending a message with your dollar. why? some americans say they won't spend any money today at big chains. plus, president trump's plans to roll back deportation protections is now hitting his own south florida backyard. the hundreds of thousands impacted and the fear it's raising for the local economy there. >> this morning. i can't breathe. >> how much gas you. >> have left? not enough. i got an idea. an idea. type 2 diabetes? discover the ozempic® tri-zone.

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>> not looking at. >> the. >> final score. we are still. >> in the first quarter. keep your. >> pads on. the game has. >> just begun. >> get your popcorn ready because the biggest night in hollywood is just days away. this sunday is the 97th annual academy awards, and oscar season drama is running high. let's bring in msnbc entertainment contributor and ceo of pop viewers, chris witherspoon. chris, it's so good to see you. it's been a while, my friend. we don't have golden statues to give out here, but we do have the coveted golden witherspoon. >> so let's. >> start with best picture. tell us your prediction. who gets the golden witherspoon? >> i mean. >> listen. >> this is a really tough category. there are. >> so. >> many great picks here. >> but keep. >> in. >> mind amelia. >> perez, they came in with 13. >> nominations kind of leading the pack. but at the sag awards that happened this past sunday, conclave won this award for best ensemble. and the sag awards in this category have an 80%

accuracy. so i'm thinking conclave might. actually take this category from emilia perez. but again, there are so many. >> great. >> it's a stacked category, so many great films. >> okay, so the golden witherspoon went to amelia perez for best picture. we're starting with the biggest award first and then we'll backtrack here. there's a lot of buzz around the best actress category, with demi moore nominated for the first time in her 50 year career. what's your prediction? >> listen, there are two. >> strong contenders for. >> this category. >> demi moore, as you mentioned, and i. >> love her story. >> she won the golden globe for this award. she also won the sag for this category. but her story of really coming back to hollywood, almost giving up, being kind of pegged as a popcorn actress, this film, the substance, brought her back. but also keep in mind cynthia erivo, if she wins this award, she will become an egot winner. but my money is on me. moore the golden witherspoon goes to demi moore. >> okay, i'm seeing two golden spoons there. i got to say, i haven't seen any of those movies

except for wicked, and i loved it. i'm rooting for cynthia all the way. what's what's your best actor award? >> so for this one, a huge. >> surprise happened. >> at the sag awards, where timothee chalamet took home this award for best actor. and again, that category. it matches up with the academy award very well by 80% accuracy. so i am betting on timothee chalamet for this category. also, he really poured his heart and soul into this role. he learned how to perform guitar. he trained for five years and also sang live in the film. he transformed into bob dylan. this award he'll become the youngest winner at 29 years old, the same age adrien brody was when he had this award. >> incredible. >> just 29 years old. and it's amazing coming full circle. adrien brody is also up for best actor again this year, so that's another fun story that we'll be following. okay, spoons aside, are there any other big moments that you're excited about as we watch on sunday?

>> i mean. >> you talked about wicked. i am so excited for cynthia erivo and ariana grande. they're going to perform for the first time on live tv. they might defy gravity. i'm ready for that. also, queen latifah set to perform doja cat and rae, but i think wicked has swept the country. it's been a huge hit and we are all, i think, dying to see cynthia erivo and ariana grande just slay the whole day. >> all right, chris witherspoon, always fun to have you with us. thank you so much and happy friday. we'll be watching on sunday. it's going to be a fun one to dvr it though. too late for me. all right. that does it for us this busy week. i'll see you back here on monday. same time, same place. stay with msnbc as we prepare in just moments for ukraine's president zelensky to meet with president trump at the white house. for now, i'm ana cabrera, reporting from new york. jose diaz, balart picks up our coverage right now. >> and