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>> the rails. >> tonight, america's allies and adversaries are reacting to the photo op heard round the world. the fiery exchange between president trump and ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky in the oval office just yesterday afternoon. the future of peace talks between russia and ukraine appears uncertain after trump and vice president j.d. vance attacked zelensky. >> for showing. >> insufficient gratitude for us support. the white house says negotiations are on hold. an agreement giving the us access to ukrainian mineral resources also remains unsigned. the incident could represent a significant turning point in u.s. policies, as trump

distances himself from america's traditional democratic partners in europe. at the same time as he seeks friendly relations with dictators like russian president vladimir putin, we will have all the political fallout from the meeting ahead tonight. plus an update on high stakes budget negotiations in the. house and the senate. and we're following breaking news here in new york city. former governor andrew cuomo is plotting a political comeback as he announces a campaign for mayor of the city of new york. we start tonight with senator sheldon whitehouse, democrat of rhode island. senator, i have to start. i must ask you about yesterday's exchange between president trump, vice president vance and ukrainian or ukrainian president zelensky at the white house. here's just some of what happened.

>> everybody has problems, even you. but you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future. >> god bless you. >> god bless you. god bless you. >> you don't tell us what we're going to feel. we're trying to solve a problem. don't tell us what we're going to feel. you don't have the cards right now with us. you start having cards right now. you don't. are you playing cards? you're playing cards. you're gambling with the lives of millions of people. you're gambling with world war three. you're gambling with world war three. and what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country. this country. your country is in big trouble. i know you're not winning. you're not winning this. it's going to be a very hard thing to do business like this. i tell you, you. >> say thank you. >> i said a lot of. >> except that there. >> what was your reaction when you saw this, senator? >> you know, you think back to

what president franklin delano roosevelt. did for. the embattled. free world leader of his time, winston churchill, when he was up against the. massive nazi menace. >> and then you. >> compare that. >> to what trump just did to an embattled leader. >> of our. >> free world. up against the putin. russia menace. >> and the. >> comparison is degrading. >> you know, after what we saw yesterday, where do we go from here? is a peace deal for ukraine still on the table? and what about our allies? >> it's hard to tell. what's been terrific to see has been. allies across europe. stepping up. >> to rally. >> around zelensky, to. rally around freedom, to rally against. >> the. >> murderous tyrant putin, where we should be. but unfortunately, under trump, where we. >> are not. >> there is one. >> tool that.

>> they have at. >> their disposal. >> out there that. >> they haven't used. >> yet, which is about. >> $300 billion in frozen russian assets. >> that the europeans, particularly. >> the belgians. >> have been unwilling. >> to actually seize. >> if they start sending that money to ukraine. >> ukraine plus. >> europe plus $300. >> billion. >> can do a. >> lot of good. >> now let's turn to the budget. house and senate republicans have passed their own version of a budget that will appease the president. but leadership on both sides signal they'll reject the other chamber's version. and the house version promises 880 billion with a b in spending cuts to medicaid and other social services in order to finance tax cuts, which you will get to you on the senate budget committee. what do you expect to happen? >> well. >> they're. >> going to have.

>> trouble forging an agreement between the house and the senate. but that's actually the easy part. what they're doing right now is to stage. >> in. >> the budget process, where the budget committee set the numbers to go out to. >> the appropriate. >> to the. >> authorizing committees to actually come back with. >> the laws. >> that then can be put through the reconciliation process in that. next stage when they actually have to put medicaid on the chopping block, not just. >> use numbers, show. >> medicaid has to be on. >> the chopping. >> block, but put. >> medicaid on the. >> chopping block. >> in front of all of america. it is. going to be very painful for them. >> now, extending trump's 2017 tax cuts would cost $4.6 trillion over a decade, according to the congressional budget office. and senate, if senate republicans use the current accounting process, they have no chance of making the

cuts permanent because they require paying for it. so instead of or instead they want to use a different scoring method that assumes the extension will cost nothing because there's already law. some have called it a sign republicans don't expect to pay for the cost of their tax agenda. what is your take on this? >> well, first of all, they're counting the money twice. they counted it first when they put through the first trump tax cuts for billionaires. by counting the tax cuts for billionaires as ending in ten years so they could shrink how much trump was giving. >> away to billionaires in. >> that first one. >> and now they're. pretending that that money was never going to go away. >> it was always going to stay. >> so they can't have it both ways. >> the acid test for this is going to be the debt limit, because. >> no matter how. >> they lie about what the

baseline is, the debt limit is where the real money is. >> and they can't wish away. >> $4.6 trillion. >> off of. >> the national debt. >> there are real borrowers. >> who are involved in. >> all of that. so the lie. >> about what they're saying is going to be proven in the debt. >> limit debate. >> you sit on senate judiciary, and this weekend we learned that at least seven top prosecutors at the washington u.s. attorney's office have been demoted by the new trump appointed interim u.s. attorney. the group was among those targeted for revenge by trump and maga for their role in their roles in cases related to the january 6th and investigations of trump allies. they're now tasked with entry level and misdemeanor work after overseeing complex criminal cases at the nation's largest u.s. attorney's office. how

should democrats respond to this. >> angrily? because the department of justice is a very important part of our american. >> life. >> and its integrity is very. >> important to. >> our american life. >> so when you both. humiliate seasoned. prosecutors for perfectly. >> good cases that they brought, in. >> fact, they won. >> them and. >> then send a. >> message to all. of the. rest of the employees. >> if you're not bringing. >> the kind of cases that we like politically. you're in for the. same humiliation. >> even when you. >> do a great job. even when you get the conviction, even when. >> you're the best. >> we've got. >> so it's a doubly evil message. >> all right. thank you. senator sheldon whitehouse turning back to the clash between the white house and ukrainian president zelensky yesterday. joining me now is democrat democratic roll out in congressman gabe amo. congressman, you are the vice

ranking member of house foreign affairs committee. what's your reaction to yesterday's meeting? >> well, first off, thanks for having me. >> rep. >> my reaction is that was not a meeting. that was a gift to vladimir putin. it is so apparent here that vladimir putin is somewhere in the kremlin, smiling from ear to ear after that display, something that we have not ever seen before. seeing a president make very clear that he sides with the aggressor, the dictator, over the champion for democracy and for freedom. and so i'm still unnerved by it. i know that most of america was uncomfortable with what we saw, and the consequences therein are tremendous. >> now, you are also on the budget committee. and this week, republicans in the house and senate passed their budget plans. now, the hard work of reconciling the two proposals begin. democrats remain extremely concerned about

potential massive cuts to programs like medicaid. can you talk about what's at stake and where we go from here? >> well, look, i sat in a 12 plus hour budget markup hearing where i heard my republican colleagues over and over again commit to draconian cuts. page 43 instructs the committee on agriculture to cut $230 billion from programs like snap and food. assistance for school lunches. page 44 instructs cuts to medicaid, which is going to hit long-term. >> care senior. >> centers, senior citizens, and so many nursing homes and the healthcare of so many americans. so i know directly that there going to be negative effects. and so my republican. colleagues are hearing in. >> their communities. >> at. >> town halls. >> that people won't stand for these types of cuts. >> federal workers are reportedly receiving another

email this weekend from elon musk and doge, asking them to provide a list of accomplishments from the week. even after some trump administration department heads told their workers not to respond to the last email a week ago, the trump administration is under pressure to elaborate on musk's role in the administration. they have previously said he was a special government employee, which would limit him to working just 130 days a year. some in congress, some congress demand more clarity from the white house. on musk's role. >> well, look, i think this special government employee designation is a problem, right? it limits him to 130. >> days. >> which can be extended. but even more of an issue is the lack of financial disclosure that's required. that's why i'm a co-sponsor of legislation from. >> congressman john. >> larson of connecticut. that

is about ending those conflicts. i want to know how much more money, how much richer he is getting because of his. involvement as our co-president next to donald trump. >> now, on thursday, us aid, usaid aid workers were allowed to briefly reenter the agency's former headquarters in washington to collect their personal belongings and clear out their desks. trump's decision to terminate 90% of us aides foreign contracts is being felt all over the world, including in africa, where the us is no longer participating in programs to provide drought relief, hiv prevention and hospitals. this is all happening even as president trump has suggested, that white south africans should be given special asylum status. here in this country, your parents immigrated here from west africa. i can

imagine that this may feel personal for you. what is your reaction? >> well, my reaction is that this is disgraceful. america has always led on the global stage, and now we are ceding that role, a role that china may seek to fill. and at the. >> same time. >> we are making a commitment to really working against what has been the american mission to ensure that we combat disease in the world, that we ensure that we combat child hunger. there are real consequences for this. people will suffer. yet we have trump and musk proceeding as if they have a mandate from the american people to really destroy our reputation abroad. >> all right, representative gabe. gabe amo of rhode island, thank you for being with us this evening. coming up, we're following breaking news in new york politics. former governor andrew cuomo says he's running

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attempt at a political comeback three years after he resigned in a scandal. cuomo made his candidacy official in a 17 minute long video touting his long history of political accomplishments and his record on fighting crime, promising his return will pull the city out of social and political turmoil. city just feels threatening, out of control and in crisis. these conditions exist not as an act of god, but rather. >> as an. >> act of our political leaders, or more precisely, the lack of intelligent action by many of our political leaders. joining me now, max rose, former democratic congressman of new york, and charlie dent, former republican congressman of pennsylvania. max, after months of speculation, it's official

now. andrew cuomo is in the race. he's joining a crowded field of democrats in the primary looking to unseat mayor eric adams. how does he change the race? >> politics is. >> a beautiful thing. >> and there's. >> always an. >> opportunity for. second chances. look, he's the. clear frontrunner. >> no one. >> would disregard. >> that at this point. >> and eric adams. >> chances of. >> winning the. >> democratic primary. >> are exceedingly minimal. >> i would not count him out as a. >> republican in the general. >> and that's. >> an unfortunate. >> state of our political affairs right now. but certainly. >> this at. >> this point, is andrew cuomo's. >> to lose. >> now, it's not guaranteed. there's a lot left, and everyone's already training their political ammunition on him. but gosh, he's the clear frontrunner right now. >> now, you mentioned that mayor adams could run as a republican. could he legally run as a republican? number one. and number two, aren't there those

that could get independent funding and just beat up on andrew cuomo on old allegations and controversies? >> look. >> superpacs play. >> a big. >> role and could play an even. larger role in new york city primaries and general elections. i don't think people should underestimate eric adams capacity as a republican, particularly if the's a heightened maga turnout and a depressed democratic progressive turnout. elections shouldn't be assumed to be guaranteed after a primary. but with that being said, right now andrew cuomo is operating in that moderate lane, and it remains to be seen amongst the six other candidates that are out there right now who will emerge as his principal contender because he's taking most of those eric adams votes in this primary. >> now, charlie, president trump has aggressively inserted himself into new york politics since returning to office,

pardoning mayor adams and attempting to kill congestion pricing here in new york city. his former home. would you expect trump to deal with cuomo now that he's officially trying to become the leader of the country's biggest city? >> well, that's a great question. i think that, you. >> know. >> right now, trump will probably try to intervene. any way he can. it seems. that adams. >> is his preferred candidate. >> obviously. >> he feels he has. >> some. >> leverage over over him because of the impending. >> dismissal of. >> those charges. without prejudice. >> so i. >> have to suspect. >> that trump might intervene in this race, probably to the. >> detriment of cuomo and to the benefit of adams. that would be. my guess today. >> but when you have a multi-candidate crowded. democratic field, as you do here, a lot. >> of things can happen. but advantages go. >> to the guy with the. >> most. >> money and the most name recognition, even if they have some scandal behind them, is the case with with former governor

cuomo. but trump is going. >> to meddle. >> do you think that trump will stay or intervene in some way? >> i do, i look, i that's that's his nature. he he likes to play. he likes to inject himself into fights that are really not his. unlike virtually any other president. most presidents try to avoid nasty fights if they can. trump. he relishes them. he looks. he looks for controversy. most. most politicians try to avoid it because they know it will find them anyway. but in trump's case, he wants the controversy. he'll jump in, and if he thinks he can make a difference and get his preferred candidate, which i think is adams, that's what he'll do. >> you. let me just quickly ask you that. you think eric adams is trump's preferred candidate? >> well, at the moment, well he just well, he's planning to dismiss the charges. he seems to think that he has some kind of a understanding with the mayor about immigration enforcement.

you know, clearly that relationship could go sideways if mayor adams does not cooperate to the extent that the trump administration would like on immigration enforcement. but for now, i would have to think that trump prefers adams. but we'll see who else you know emerges. >> it's what i said in the letter to the judge or the justice department under trump. they wanted the charges dropped because one of the three reasons was because he needs time to work on immigration and violent crimes, which spells to me return to stop and frisk, because that is the president's philosophy on that. i want to turn to that extraordinary meltdown we all witnessed in the oval office yesterday. what was supposed to be a meeting that led to a major new economic deal between the us and ukraine, turned into a shouting match between president trump and zelensky, after which the ukrainian leader was asked to leave the white house. national security adviser mike wallace

was one of the officials who delivered that news. earlier today, wallace was asked if he thought zelensky understood what had just happened. listen. >> no he didn't. frankly, his team did. >> his his. ambassador and. >> his. >> advisor were were were practically i mean, they. >> were. >> practically in tears wanting this to move forward. but zelensky was still argumentative. and finally, what i said, i said, look, mr. president. >> time is not. >> on your side here. >> time is. >> not on your side on the battlefield. >> time is. >> not on on your side in terms of the world situation. and most importantly, u.s. aid and the taxpayers tolerance is not unlimited. >> charlie. charlie. not long ago, support for ukraine was bipartisan on capitol hill, but we haven't heard much pushback

from the gop over this debacle in the oval office or trump's radical shift in foreign policy in general. do you think that will change? >> well, i certainly hope republicans find their voice on this. the mistreatment of zelensky yesterday in the oval office was it was disgusting. it was an outrage that this man who was fighting not only for his country's life, but for his own life, would be treated so disrespectfully. people, and of course, many in the maga world, are trying to make it sound like zelensky caused this problem. zelensky apparently triggered trump by suggesting that vladimir putin cannot be trusted in any type of a peace agreement, which is a fact. and now donald trump apparently is trying to shift sides in this war. after three years siding with vladimir putin, with the aggressor over the victim. we had the worst vote ever cast in

the history of the united states at the united nations this week, in failing to condemn russian aggression against ukraine. you know, we're blowing up 80 years of bipartisan foreign policy consensus that made this transatlantic relationship the foundation of american national security policy. trump is going to blow it up to appease putin and try to force zelensky into some kind of a surrender agreement. that would be a disgrace and make us all weaker, both in europe and the united states, and undermine our relationships everywhere in this world among friends. >> max, let me go back to you. elon musk has had a starring role in trump's first cabinet meeting on thursday, though he is not officially a member of the cabinet. musk also just appeared on joe rogan's podcast, a three hour plus interview in which musk claimed his agency discovered massive fraud, abuse and waste in federal government

without any proof or pushback. meanwhile, gop lawmakers back home are facing blowback from their constituents over all these cuts. but trump is sticking by his man, musk. can democrats turn this into a winning issue? >> look, this is the winning issue. democrats should not stand for the status quo or be the grand defenders of waste, fraud and abuse, but they certainly should stand up in opposition to the wealthiest man in the world, giving the president united states $300 million to buy his way into control of the cabinet, buy his way into standing with the president's cabinet, looking like a fool in a t shirt and a hat. same time lying about where the true nature of waste, fraud and abuse is in the government because he's ignoring it. you want to find waste, fraud and abuse. let's look at the tens of billions of dollars that get sent to musk's companies. you want to look at waste fraud.

>> musk gets government money. >> yeah. oh, a lot of money. and look, let's look at the waste, fraud and abuse associated with massive tax loopholes for the wealthiest amongst us. but i'll tell you, musk did accomplish one thing in the past couple of weeks. he fired tens of thousands of veterans. i'll tell you, no, man in the history of the united states of america has fired more veterans than elon musk. these are men and women that signed on the dotted line to potentially make the ultimate sacrifice in defense of our collective freedoms. and he turned to them and said, listen, thank you for your service. now you're fired. be on your way. that's eliminating our greatest asset as a nation, not waste, fraud and abuse. it's despicable and we should all stand up in opposition to that. democrat, independent or republican? >> former congressman max rose and charlie dent, thank you for both for being with us. coming up, the country's new top health

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>> hey, i. >> have a lot of respect for elon and. go ahead elon. >> joining me now to talk about it is former member of president biden's cabinet, interior secretary deb haaland. secretary haaland is running for governor of new mexico. she would be the first female native american governor in our nation's history. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, reverend. i'm happy. >> to. >> be here. thanks for. >> having me. >> now, as we mentioned, madam secretary, you participated in numerous cabinet meetings. what was your impression of what we witnessed this week at the white house? >> if i could sum. >> it up. >> in one word, reverend, it would be embarrassment. it's an embarrassment. you know, cabinet meetings are serious undertakings where you exchange information that's vital to the country that the president leads. and in fact, when i was

in the president's cabinet, that was the tone of our cabinet meetings. president biden, professional would bring us all. >> together. and we talk. >> about issues that were important to the country. >> now, elon musk, those cuts have created chaos throughout the federal government, including at the country's national parks. this week, flags were hung upside down at yosemite, yosemite national park as a sign of distress. it comes as one former national park services supervisor fired out of michigan, says parks this summer won't exactly wow their millions of visitors. with all the layoffs. >> hundreds of millions. >> of people visit the. >> national parks every year, and those people are still going to come. they're still going to be vacationers this summer, and

they're going to come to a park that is not going to be prepared for them. >> as you well know, disruptions in funding can be devastating for national parks. what are your concerns about what's going on right now? >> absolutely. >> well, every. job is important. >> every single job at our national parks are important, right? we have biologists, ecologists. we have folks who who manage parking lots and make sure that trails and roads are safe for visitors to, to drive and hike on. we also have people who, you know, who look out for animals like or people speeding, you know, animals get killed in our national parks. every year. and so we need people to manage. >> those important things. >> they're also people, reverend, who empty trash cans and clean bathrooms so that people can be safe and healthy. and since covid, our national

parks have, you know, visitor has visitation has skyrocketed because people realize how important the outdoors are to the lives they lead. and it will be shameful if national parks have to turn people away because they don't have the capacity to take on that many visitors. it's really a shame that that a billionaire who was who is unelected is calling the shots for firing so many people when he has no clue what they even do. >> i want to turn now to a big concern for native americans across the country. despite birthright citizenship being granted to native americans more than a century ago, many are now finding themselves entangled in trump's immigration enforcement efforts. in fact, a navajo nation citizen was questioned by ice just days ago. what kind of reaction have you been hearing

from the community about trump in his second term? >> yes. of course. you know, he is instilling fear in our children and our immigrant communities here in new mexico. yes, they have questioned native americans about. >> their citizenship. >> there was the mescalero apache tribe had to. >> send out a. >> notification to its members to give them instructions on what to do if they're stopped. this is unprecedented. and then recently, of course, a bus, a bus, you know, taking kids to a sports event was stopped. and the children were intimidated. this is not how we run our communities here in new mexico. every single person deserves dignity and respect. and so i'll say that when, you know, i'm running for governor, when i'm governor, law enforcement in new

mexico is not going to do trump's bidding. in this immigration situation that he has caused and in fact, law enforcement agencies should be doing what they're designed to do, and that is fighting violent crime. >> finally, as you just said, you announced last month you are running to be the next governor of new mexico, and you've already raised $1 million for your campaign. can you talk a little about your vision for the state and what's at stake in this race? >> of course. well, i hopped in the race because i think it's an important time. i think leadership is it real leadership is important in this country right now, and i believe that governors will be the first line of defense against the terrible and chaotic policies that are coming out of washington, dc. so i'm running to change the game for new mexicans and to stand up for all new mexicans. and i would hope that if anyone wants to know more about my campaign, they can go to deb holland.com

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