weekend, actually. i'll be joined by two co-hosts to be named soon, so watch this space. the current hosts of the weekend, my good friends and colleague symone sanders townsend, michael steele and alicia menendez will be moving to weeknights at 7 p.m, but that'll do it for me. as always, thanks for watching. tune in tomorrow to the sunday show when senator chris van hollen of maryland joins us live to discuss how democrats plan to counter trump's joint address to congress on tuesday night. that's tomorrow at 6 p.m. eastern, right here on msnbc. follow us on instagram, tiktok and threads using the handle at weekend capehart and blue sky using at capehart, msnbc, dot com and catch clips of the show on youtube. keep it here. ayman is next. good evening. tonight on. ayman new reporting on. >> u.s. ukraine. >> negotiations after friday's shouting. >> match in the. >> oval office. >> plus. elon musk is bragging.

about big wins. at doge. while federal. workers face yet another ultimatum. >> and today. >> marks the end of the cease fire in the first. >> phase of gaza. >> so what. happens next? with no negotiations. >> in sight? >> i'm ayman mohyeldin. >> let's do it. in a shock to absolutely no. >> one, and i mean no. >> one. >> talks between the trump. administration and ukraine have been put. on hold. and now trump says that vladimir zelensky must want peace and stop bashing. vladimir putin. the very russian president actively invading his country before he will reconsider. now, friday's meeting was expected to be tense. that is no surprise. what was, though, was zelensky being cornered into handing over parts of his country's mineral wealth with no security guarantees in return? and just. days earlier,

trump accused zelensky, bizarrely, of being a dictator. yes, the u.s. has been a key ally in this war, but zelensky was about to sign this deal with a man who has openly praised vladimir putin, the same leader bombing ukraine and killing thousands of ukrainians. now, usually these tensions stay behind closed doors when it comes to diplomacy. but trump wanted them out on full display. zelensky, known for pushing back, has clashed with biden and others. but now he's facing a new kind of challenge. now take that and enter jd vance. watch. >> what kind of diplomacy. jd, you are speaking about what what what do you what do you mean? >> i'm talking. >> about the. >> kind of diplomacy that's going to. >> end the destruction of. your country. >> yes, but. >> mr. president, mr. president. >> with respect, i. >> think it's. >> disrespectful for you. >> to come. >> into. >> the oval office and.

>> try to litigate this. >> in front of the. >> american media. >> right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems. >> you should. >> be thanking the. >> president for. >> trying to bring an end to this. >> conflict into ukraine, that you say what problems we have. >> i have. been to one. i have actually. >> i've. >> actually watched. >> and seen the stories. and i know. what happens is you bring people, you bring. >> them on a propaganda. >> tour. >> mr. president. >> and if you're. >> just passing. >> by the. >> tv or caught. >> that clip. >> you might think that he has a point just because of how confidently the vice president seems to be speaking. >> vance has. >> straight up admitted he doesn't care about ukraine. he also has this grudge. it's almost a weird obsession of sorts when it comes to u.s. aid going there, and it's kind of funny because he doesn't have that same energy for israel or netanyahu who have openly or who has openly defied american presidents in the past while also taking billions of u.s. tax dollars. and he's accusing zelenskyy of doing exactly what russia is doing. putin has forced hundreds of thousands of russians into conscription. it's

why so many russians have actually fled that country. and the full extent of russian losses is hard to grasp. but reports show the russian troops are being killed at an extremely high rate. in fact, putin has even turned to north korea for extra troops on the battlefield. zelenskyy was by far the most composed leader in that room. he made it clear that he was trying to set the record straight, something he has to do. and honestly, can you blame him? i mean, the journalists there are those cosplaying as journalists were throwing ridiculous questions like this one. >> in this country's. >> office. >> and he refused to. >> wear a suit. >> just want to see if. >> you. >> own. >> a suit. >> yeah, yeah. >> i a lot of americans. >> have problems. >> with you not. >> respecting the dignity. >> of. >> this office. >> i will wear a costume after this war. will finish. okay. yes, maybe. >> maybe something. >> maybe something like yours. yes. maybe some. something better. i don't know. >> yeah.

>> trump sycophant reporters cosplaying as white house journalists are the new norm. and yet, no one has ever bothered to ask elon musk why he doesn't wear a suit when he's around trump and in the oval office. now, some commentators are calling this a setup. the white house denies it. but let's be real. zelensky was stuck in an impossible situation. trump turned it into a pr stunt, something his allies may call a win for the us. but many americans saw it as a shameful moment in ukraine, where zelensky has a high approval rating. his response earned him respect but also fear. three years into russia's invasion, thousands of innocent lives have been lost. now, trump wants zelensky to stay silent about putin, the man causing it all, who has long claimed ukraine basically has no right to exist. this isn't just a low point for u.s. foreign policy. it shows how little some politicians care about the real suffering in these wars. ukraine's fate

should not be left to vladimir putin, a petty man turning it into a reality show like donald trump as well. on with me now. tom nichols, staff writer for the atlantic, also joining us from ukraine, simon schuster, senior correspondent at time magazine. joe, it's great to have both of you with us. simon, i'll start with you. you've reported on ukraine and russia for a while now. i know we have spoken on this program a few times over the past couple of years. we know that this is a fearful moment for ukrainians, but a lot of them have also a lot of pride in their country and in how the president zelenskyy carried himself in the oval office last night on fox news. he did thank president trump again. he thanked the american people again. does it feel like trump wanted to box zelenskyy in? i mean, was there ever a chance that this meeting ended in a positive outcome for ukrainians? >> yeah. >> i. >> think that's. >> what all ukrainians. >> that i know here in kyiv were expecting. >> this was. >> supposed to be kind. >> of a formality. >> the terms of the agreement that president zelensky had gone

to the white house to sign. had been negotiated over the past couple of weeks, and they were supposed to mark a kind of a new start to the. >> relationship between. >> the trump administration and president zelensky. it all went awry, of course, but i think. >> what i've been. >> hearing for sure from. >> the people here. >> from my sources, from my friends in kyiv, is a really amazing rallying around zelenskyy, rallying around their leader. they feel proud of him. they feel. that he really stood up to a bully. as they see it. and you know, some people see it as a. >> kind of unity. >> around zelenskyy that people here haven't felt perhaps since the early months of the invasion in 2022. >> is there, simon? is there a sense of what comes next if this relationship has been severed? i mean, we reported the negotiations are now put on hold. it doesn't seem like donald trump wants volodymyr zelensky back to the white house anytime soon. is there a sense of anxiety about what comes next

among ukrainians without the backing of the u.s? we know the europeans are saying they want to step in and fill that void. it may not be that simple or easy. >> that's right. that's obviously the flip side of that feeling of pride and unity here in kyiv, especially among military officers. i was actually having dinner with a with a senior military officer, a ukrainian colonel, when the news of the white house blow up started coming in. and, you know, even though he also, you know, expressed support and respect for zelensky's stand, the stand that he took. >> he expressed. >> a lot of concern about what this would mean for the ukrainian military and whether the ukrainian military would be able to fight on and defend ukraine against the invasion of the russians without u.s. military help, without u.s. intelligence sharing, and without the u.s. president on board with with this fight. >> tom, you. >> wrote. >> about this in the atlantic just today. you called this meeting an ambush. you called it one of the grimmest days of

american diplomacy. walk me through that thinking. what were you thinking when you saw this play out? i mean, we know that trump has obviously aligned himself with putin. refused to even call him a dictator. almost surprised when somebody asked him, like, hey, do you still stand by calling vladimir zelensky a dictator? and he said, did i say that? i couldn't? i didn't say that. did you ever think it would go this far? >> i. >> i had fears that it would go this far. and like a lot of people, i. felt physically sick watching this. i mean, it was just it was an embarrassing spectacle for the american government, a low. point for the united. >> states that. up until. >> a month ago. >> was the. >> leader of. >> the free world. >> look, does trump. >> hate zelensky? there was never going to be. >> a smooth relationship here. >> he he hates alinsky. >> he hates ukraine. he blames them for a lot of his problems. >> he blames. >> them for. >> for vladimir putin's problems. we saw. >> that in this meeting of, you know, his sympathy. >> for poor vladimir.

>> putin, getting dragged through the mud by the democrats and their allies in the media. i mean, it really was. an incredible scene to watch. >> an american. president take the side of a russian dictator against. >> a free. >> people that have been. >> invaded by the. >> russian army. >> and with vance, who either. >> horned his way into this meeting to. disrupt it or was brought in. >> to disrupt it. >> either. >> way, it was it. >> was clearly an intentional ambush. the vice president. >> is part of a group of plutocrats who have. >> come to believe that they are. deep geopolitical thinkers. >> and that somehow. >> they have to derail. >> all of. >> this because they are the. >> new wise. >> men who. >> understand transatlantic relations. but of course, as you saw, you know, vance's grip on all of this is pretty shallow. and he was there mostly to be a troll, to just bait zelensky and to be kind of a, you know, the 3d version of an internet troll sitting in a meeting that is

about serious and existential, important things. >> we're seeing these sprays, tom, and you certainly know washington a lot better than i do. i mean, these these sprays are often just a couple of seconds, maybe at best, a few pleasantries, a handshake, and you move on. but it has now become almost a signature hallmark of this administration. the first month with a few different leaders that come in and they just kind of descend into this chaos. sometimes, as in the case with the french president having to correct trump in real time about european contribution to the war in ukraine. others, like the king of jordan, who sat by as trump talked about gaza, and he kind of said, well, you know, that's we're going to have to do what's in our interest. and it's not something that requires us to take in millions of palestinians. these are becoming spectacles. and you got to sense from trump at the end of his comments yesterday when he said, hey, this is going to be this is going to make great television. >> he loves this. he loves. >> being on tv. >> he thinks.

>> and this is part of the problem with both trump and vance. >> they don't live in the. >> real world where. >> things really. >> have terrible consequences. >> for, for vance, this is. >> all kind of a. >> i guess, a an intellectual. >> exercise in self. >> actualization or something. >> but for trump, it's a tv show. it's reality tv. he thinks that when. >> he's on. >> tv, he's winning this. despite all of the evidence from his first. >> term. >> that when he spends a lot of time in. >> the public eye, people start. >> to get tired of. >> him, and they start to realize that. >> the guy they're watching is. >> not. >> the. >> guy they thought in their head that they. >> were voting for. but you're not going. >> to convince trump of that. i mean, he he had basically had to be like grabbed by his staff to stop doing those covid pressers during the during the pandemic. that would go on. for hours. he thought he. >> was. >> doing great. yeah, of course. >> with the famous injecting yourself with bleach press conferences. simon, you know what stuck out to me is also how

much misinformation that trump and vance, you know, they run with. it's kind of shocking to some extent that at this high level, they're kind of repeating stuff that people see on memes or online. and the irony of calling zelensky a dictator but not willing to call putin a dictator coming at him for conscriptions instead of vladimir putin, who obviously has had manpower problems, so much so to the point that they've had to call north koreans to come in and fight in ukraine alongside russian soldiers. what have you heard about the toll of this war on russians? and are many of them growing weary of the war as well? >> yeah. russia's been, you. >> know. >> quite a difficult box. it's a black box in many ways, because they have banned independent reporting and kept so much of the attention of the media out. they've basically arrested or banned all free media. so it's very difficult to get a good read on it. but from my context and sources there, you know,

it's clear that people are weary of the war. the economy is suffering. so i think it's a grave mistake for some in the trump administration to see russia as some kind of indomitable force. this has been an illusion that putin has propagated, has spread, and his propaganda propaganda channels have spread. and trying to make the world believe that russia can not be defeated. that's just not the case. russia also is suffering from manpower shortages. its economy is suffering gravely from sanctions. and now, as part of the talks that the trump administration has initiated with putin, putin is looking for sanctions relief, and it looks like he might get it from trump if things continue to go this way. you know, that, of course, is a huge concern for the ukrainians. it's a huge concern for president zelensky. i mean, i think one thing that he was trying to do in that oval office meeting to pierce the bubble, is to invite trump and vance to

come to ukraine and see for themselves what's going on here. i think that would really change their perspective. >> and to tom's point really quickly, it looks like vance was like auditioning for an endorsement from trump. i mean, i think he i think vance is watching elon musk get all of this praise, and he's always by the president's side. and he's like watching elon constantly shower trump with like, he's the best president. he's amazing. i love this guy as much as any straight man could. and jd vance is like, wait a minute, i want to get in on this action. let me show you what i can do. mr. president, we get this ambush at the white house. tom. >> i'm sorry, i mean, vance, you know vance. vance, until now, has been the invisible man. yeah, you know that. i imagine if you asked a lot of americans who the vice. president did they? they'd say, well. >> it's clearly. >> elon musk, but this is also a place where, you know, the vice president for a long time, and even before, even when he was a senator, i mean, he this he wants to be taken seriously in

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>> the bureaucracy. >> it's the first threat to the bureaucracy. normally, the bureaucracy eats revolutions for breakfast. >> this is the. >> first time that they're not. >> that the. >> revolution might actually succeed. i actually have to be careful that i don't push too. >> hard on the. >> corruption stuff, because it's going to get me killed. that was first buddy elon musk making his case for doj's work on dismantling the government with trump friendly podcaster joe rogan, the reactionary billionaire made a series of grandiose and unfounded claims to justify doj's mission in weeding out so-called waste and corruption. but back here in the real world, musk's erratic behavior is having devastating consequences. this weekend, for example, federal employees are receiving a second email that requests they list five bullets describing what they accomplished this past week, with a deadline to submit by monday night. however, unlike the first round of these emails last weekend, they are coming from the same agencies that told

workers to ignore the last one, like the defense department and the department of homeland security, led by secretaries pete hegseth and kristi noem, respectively. this comes as the trump administration is cracking down on layoffs across agencies like usaid, giving employees 15 minutes to collect their belongings from their offices. fellow staffers were waiting outside to cheer on their laid off coworkers, and we're told hundreds of workers have also been let go from the national oceanic and atmospheric administration. of course, that's not forget why trump and musk say this is happening to cut bloated government spending across the board, which all sounds great, and a lot of people support it until you actually dig into the administration's own data, which reveals nearly 40% of the federal contracts they've canceled are not expected to save the government, actually any money. my panel is back with me. simon, let's start with this interview musk did with joe rogan. this is the first time musk has discussed his work inside the government in such

detail. what are your takeaways from these comments? musk made even his threat that he wouldn't be able to push so hard otherwise it would risk getting him killed. >> yeah, it was. >> really a fascinating conversation. i think it's the first time that musk has gone into such detail, and this is really a safe space for musk. i mean, in many moments in that long interview, it went on for about three hours. you know, he was acting almost like he and joe rogan were the only ones in the room. but in reality, he was talking about, you know, first of all, his, as he puts it, all access pass in terms of security clearance and talking very freely about some of the information that he had obtained through his through his access to the government's secrets. another thing that really jumped out at me is just how well he has come to understand the inner workings of the government's computer systems, and he seems to have really found what wires you need to cut within that system to cause maximum damage. that really stood out to me.

>> let's talk about the second round of emails being sent to these workers, demanding they list what they did this week. when this happened last week, most of these government agencies told them to ignore it. kash patel, you know, state department, marco rubio, pete hegseth now they're saying they have to respond. what does that say, tom, about the power musk has here and your read on what will be done with these responses. >> i think. very little is going to be done with these. responses because. >> they. >> can't possibly cope with reading. >> them all. >> what musk is doing is kind of. >> ongoing psychological. warfare against. >> federal employees. he's not really expecting to read long emails about what you did as a federal employee. he's never been one. he he, you know, talks. >> very confidently. >> about the bureaucracy. >> while. >> having absolutely no experience with it. what he wants is for people to say, i quit and to leave and to be

miserable, because then he clears for two things. he one is that he clears away people that he suspects think they're smarter than he is, but then that as a more practical issue, gets them out of the way for things he wants to do that are in his interest. and that just happened. to coincide with. donald trump's interest. in musk's case, it's business interests. and, you know, the conflicts of interest are, you know, potentially significant here. and in donald trump's case, it's getting rid of a bunch of apolitical civil servants who might have the temerity to say that they're not going to violate the. constitution when he tells them to. >> you know, simon, the initial reporting suggests that the you know, the irony being that nearly 40% of these federal contracts that trump and his allies are claiming as part of these so-called cost cutting programs are not expected to actually save the government any money. we haven't seen anything significant going after the department of defense, which is the largest, you know, behemoth

in our federal budget. how does that make any sense? i mean, what are they really doing and how are they able to touting success when the numbers just don't simply add up? >> yeah, it starts to make me really doubt that this is all about saving the american taxpayers money. i mean, if you listen carefully to what musk was saying in that joe rogan interview, he was talking with a lot of passion about the revolution that he sees himself as being a part of. he sees himself as leading. it's a revolution against the bureaucracy. its fundamental goal is to sort of overturn that bureaucracy and attack the government. that seems to be his goal. what the question i want to ask is what is the ideology, the ideological kind of motivation for this revolution, as he calls it. and, you know, where is it taking us? it doesn't seem to be saving the government all that much money, but it does seem to be clearing the way, at least for musk and his allies, to install their own loyalists throughout the

government, that they've already started doing that. so i think it's really a kind of a mission of clearing out the government, clearing out the federal bureaucracy and installing their own loyalists inside it. >> tom. i wanted. >> to get your thoughts on something that we just learned a short while ago, and that is that the president has signed an executive order designating english as the official language of the united states. i don't know if you have any thoughts on this, generally speaking, but just because he just signed it, i wanted to kind of toss that one out there to you. >> i'm surprised it. >> took this long. >> you know, it seems like exactly. >> the kind of nativist flex that he would have done in his. >> first term. i think, you know, most americans understand an english speaking country. are official or official government business is done in english. i'm not even sure that it's going to have much impact. unless and this will. >> get very. >> costly unless trump issues an order basically saying all. these forms that have additional languages to help. american

citizens. you know, like my grandparents who didn't speak english have to be destroyed and reprinted or something. but, you know, it's like i said, i just i'm surprised it took trump this long. and i'm amazed he didn't give it a shot in. >> his first term. >> yeah. and the white in the statement from the white house, it says to promote unity, cultivate a shared american culture for all citizens, ensure consistency in government operations, and create a pathway to civic engagement. it is in america's best interest for the federal government to designate one and only one official language. establishing english as the official language will not only streamline communication, but also reinforce shared national values and create a more cohesive and efficient society. just in case anyone out there did not know what we spoke in this country in our official government capacity. tom nichols, simon schuster, gentlemen, thank you to both of you. thank you for joining us. coming up, phase one of the ceasefire ends with no deal in sight. what does it mean for the remaining israeli hostages and the palestinians, hostages and the palestinians, whose lives have

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from morgan stanley. >> phase one of the cease fire and hostage release deal between israel and hamas expired today. and advancing to phase two, at least for now, seems in serious jeopardy. while polls show that the israeli public wants the deal to proceed, netanyahu is still facing pressure from his far right coalition, demanding that he resume the fighting. on thursday, an israeli official said that the military is refusing to withdraw from a part of gaza called the philadelphia corridor, even though the cease fire agreement signed last month said that they'd begin withdrawing today. another key issue that's supposed to be determined in upcoming negotiations is who governs gaza? israel insists that it not be hamas, and hamas continues to give indications that they are willing to cede administrative power. bassem naim, a senior

political officer or official for hamas, told nbc news this week. we are ready today, if not yesterday, to step back from governance to hand it over to a body, a government, a committee that is ready to run the gaza strip. but he says they're not willing to disarm unless an independent palestinian state is achieved. and despite the ceasefire, the humanitarian situation in gaza is still dire, especially in the cold of winter and during heavy rainfall. at least 15 children have died of hypothermia since winter started, including six babies in just the last few days. those people remain living in flimsy tents without any serious foreign efforts to rebuild. and to make matters worse, a new human rights watch report says that israeli authorities are blocking vital medical professionals from entering gaza and simultaneously preventing wounded palestinians from leaving to get treatment. meanwhile, with all eyes on gaza and the uncertain fate of the cease fire deal, israel's attacks in the occupied west

bank have only increased. 40,000 palestinians have already been expelled from refugee camps. in what this headline in haaretz calls israel's plans to gaza, the west bank. israel's defense minister boasted that those 40,000 palestinians won't be able to return home for at least a year. meanwhile, the israeli military continues to tear down palestinian infrastructure and reduce homes to rubble, just as it has already done in almost all of gaza. again, this is in the west bank. while that's happening there. here in the us, republican lawmakers sent trump a letter on tuesday demanding that the us recognize the occupied palestinian west bank as officially part of israel. using the bible? yes, the bible as justification. the letter was authored by new york congresswoman claudia tenney. that's the same lawmaker who proposed a bill last month to make donald trump's birthday a federal holiday. between

congresswoman tenney's overtures to the president and miriam adelson's $100 million donation to officially get the u.s. to recognize the illegal annexation of the west bank, it is something to be taken seriously. all of these issues took center stage at the united nations this week. the freed israeli hostage, noah arqamani, who was kidnaped from the nova music festival by hamas on october 7th, testified about her captivity being held in total fear and living in a nightmare. and she used the platform to insist that the cease fire and hostage release deal must be continued. >> the deal must go. >> on in. full and completely in all the stages my partner. >> and many other. >> hostages are only supposed to be released in the second stage of the deal. >> now, the former israeli negotiator, daniel levy also testified at the un this week.

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inappropriate, as would a minute of silence. >> for each. >> of the more than. 18,000 palestinian. >> children murdered in israel's devastation of gaza. that silence would extend to over. 300 hours. >> that was former israeli negotiator daniel levy this week addressing the united nations. that meeting happened as the gaza ceasefire and hostage release deal remained in doubt. phase one expired. as we said today, with no further negotiations underway just yet. with me now, as promised, is daniel levy, president of the us middle east project. daniel, it's great to have you on the show. i'm sorry we could not have you here on set in new york, but i understand that you went back home. but we greatly appreciate you staying up late for us. before this ceasefire deal, over the course of the last 16 months, we constantly saw we now heard that the

israeli prime minister worked to undermine ceasefire negotiations, including from members of his own cabinet that boasted about it. he did that for multiple reasons, including to hold that coalition together, perhaps to save off his personal corruption trial, perhaps to avoid a reckoning over how he failed to protect israelis on october 7th. let's talk about what is the goal now. and now that the phase one of the ceasefire has ended, what do you think he's aiming to do? well, it's good to. >> be with you. >> and look, i think. >> for netanyahu. >> those same. considerations still apply, which is how do i hold my coalition together? >> how do. >> i. maintain the ability. >> to have. >> the politics of the country focused on war? how do i avoid some of this testimony in my own corruption trials? prime minister netanyahu has. >> said we can get the.

>> hostages out, but then we will continue the war in gaza. he has set a bar that he has failed to meet thus far. he won't meet militarily. >> i think we can. >> say that. and he now, of. >> course, has the. >> encouragement of the president of the us, not just with the arms and to. continue the war, but also to. depopulate gaza with. >> this grotesque. >> riviera idea that does not accord with what was. >> agreed. >> the ceasefire deal that we are now in, that phase one has been completed actually says it lays out a parameter for phase two, as you. >> know. >> which will include a full cessation of hostilities and the full withdrawal of the israeli military. but netanyahu is refusing to address. those things. and it's fascinating. because earlier. tonight. you had protests. >> in many town. >> squares and locations. >> in israel, and you. >> had members of the families, some of whom have been released already. >> the israelis held in gaza. >> some of whom are. >> still held there. >> videos broadcast.

>> of some of those released and. >> what you heard. >> remarkably, was. >> people time. >> and again saying. >> netanyahu is trying to prevent a deal. the problem is netanyahu, a mother of one of those. still being held. another zamkowa said, you have sent a fake delegation to the talks with fake proposals in order to sabotage the deal and blame hamas. >> what about the american role in this, daniel? i mean, last time you and i spoke, joe biden was the president. we know how disastrous that was for this war. now you have donald trump not just giving israel everything it wants, but, as we saw, bizarrely claiming that the us will somehow take over gaza and develop it, how seriously do you take him at his word or posts when he posts those ai generated videos, but also about the ability of the israeli prime minister to run circles around donald trump. even if donald trump wants to try to put an end to this war. we've seen the israeli prime minister in the past outmaneuver presidents,

whether it's joe biden or barack obama. >> right? >> so first of all, there is that proposal, as you. >> said. >> and there's the ai generated. >> bizarre video. >> on that front. i would say that i do. there it is. i do noe thing, the u. i don't think could do it anyway. but it said, listen, we're not going to put troops. we're not going to put money into this. we're simply telling you to do this. now. it's not as if the israelis haven't tried to depopulate gaza, haven't tried to get the palestinians out, haven't tried to defeat hamas. they simply haven't succeeded in doing so. and we've seen alongside that the resilience of the palestinian population. and in fact, if you wanted a recipe for further destabilizing the region and for turning jordan and egypt into frontline resistant states, then probably the best thing you could do is send a million gazans to each of those countries. so this is not something that i think we will see happen. but the very

mentioning of the idea has done something important and dangerous, which is in an environment, in an atmosphere in israel already primed towards the committing of war crimes, towards the you know, this is a genocide being tried at the international court of justice already talking about ethnic cleansing in that environment. he has thrown this in. and so what he has done is he has empowered the most extreme forces, and he has totally undermined the realists that did remain in that system. and that, i think, is extremely dangerous. and it carries over, as you know, to what we're seeing happening now in the west bank, where you also have this story of destruction of infrastructure, displacement, depopulation. >> do you see, you know, and some observers have noticed this. i'm wondering your thoughts that there's this kind of good cop, bad cop routine

that has emerged between donald trump and his envoy, steve witkoff. trump promises israel everything they want and more. that gets all of the attention. he's posting videos. he's saying israel is going to have the right to do whatever they want, but then the kind of lower profile witkoff quietly goes into israel, says things like, he wants to visit gaza, he wants to talk to hamas directly. the ceasefire deal must go on. apparently tonight saying that or pushing the israeli prime minister to accept a cessation of a resumption of war, even in the absence of a phase two during the month, the holy month of ramadan and passover, for the next several weeks. and witkoff is on the ground doing this. while trump is kind of just like being this tough guy bad cop routine. >> yeah, and this is really interesting because i think one of the reasons, perhaps the primary reason that we saw this period of the implementation of phase one, that we got a cease fire in the first place, that that daily death and destruction

has been brought for now to a pause in gaza at least. and that we saw the israelis getting out, is that netanyahu had that uncertainty, that unpredictability. and boy, has it been confirmed in the first few weeks of this administration, do i want to get on these guys bad side? and his decision, i think, was despite the coalition tensions this would cause, i'm not sure i can lead him by the nose in quite the way i could. biden. biden was a known quantity, totally ineffective. his team, led by blinken, was incompetent as well as, you know, lending a hand to the atrocities of the last year. it's not that netanyahu sees in trump someone who will stand for the liberation and rights of the palestinians, but he sees someone who might bump up against him and act like the president of a superpower, rather than him being the superpower. so that is this witkoff question. and will witkoff be fooled by netanyahu's

attempt to play this and say, let's just extend phase one? or will he hold netanyahu's feet to the fire? but we've also got to face the reality that witkoff is supposed to also be dealing with the ukraine talks with iran, for instance, and with this, that strange, any anyone would think there might be a dearth of serious senior figures in this administration, should we not? >> and i was going to say, i'm sure world leaders, including netanyahu and perhaps the president of egypt, just saw what happened to zelensky and say, hey, look, we're close american allies. but i do not want to be sitting across the president in the white house spray and get berated and ambushed the way that vladimir zelensky of ukraine just did. yes. yesterday, i believe, or yeah, it was yesterday. time flies. danny levy, it's good to see you, my friend. thank you so much for staying up late for us. >> good to see you. and i wish you and others a ramadan mubarak. >> thank you. >> so. >> much, my friend. thank you. next up, the gop budget plan next up, the gop budget plan that helps the rich if you have heart failure or chronic kidney disease, farxiga can help you

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legislation. >> well, we. >> can see from what donald trump and the republican leadership have done that it absolutely is going to impact medicaid, which, as you said, covers 70 million. 72 million americans. >> that is. >> a lot of people. and the impact is going to be devastating. medicaid is used to cover 40% of births in the united states of america, 50% of nursing homes. and it's also used to cover lots of. >> young people who. >> are just entering the workforce, and more. when we cut medicaid, we're going to see people not being able to go to the doctor. we're going to see people. having issues like. strep throat. >> which, if it's. >> untreated, can turn into something. >> much worse and cost. >> more money in the long run. >> we're going. >> to see rural hospitals closing. >> we're going. to see medical programs closing. it's going to hurt. >> our economy. >> it's going to hurt our businesses. and it's going to hurt our country. it's a. >> big deal. if they cut medicaid. >> walk us through what you would like to see passed from congress, bills and proposals that would actually benefit the

working class. i know you've mentioned that families want the ultra rich to pay their fair share in taxes, so that programs like the child tax credit can be extended. but what specifically would would you like to see as well? >> i love this question. we'd like to see a reversal of what's. >> happening right now. right now we have. republicans saying that they're going to give $4.5 trillion. >> again. >> give $4.5 trillion. >> to people. >> who are already. wealthy. >> that we know from previous attempts at this idea. >> of. trickle down economics does not actually. >> boost our economy. >> what boosts our economy. >> are. >> programs that allow people to go. >> to work, that allow parents to thrive and kids to thrive. >> and allow. people to contribute to their community. those types of programs include things like access to affordable. >> childcare, access to nutritious programs, access to health care programs. all of. >> these programs. >> show over time that the amount. >> that. >> taxpayers put in is returned multiple times more later due to

savings. why is that happening? because our. >> economy right. >> now, two thirds is run on consumer spending. and when people. >> don't have money to spend, when we all don't have money to buy those. >> groceries, to be there for our kids to pay for childcare, then we all lose out. that hurts our businesses, that hurts our economy, that hurts everything. so if we pass actually an expansion of home and community. based services, which is allowing people. >> to age with. >> dignity and expansion of access to child care and expansion of paid family. >> medical leave when a new baby arrives. >> or a serious health crisis. strikes and expansion. of support to the k through 12 programs as well as to child care. overall, then we will all win. but this. situation where instead of expanding. >> programs that. >> we know boost. >> our. >> economy is actually taking. money from taxpayers and giving it to the uber wealthy is wrong. >> you're obviously not going to have allies among republicans. for those. what do you need to see from democrats in this moment? how are you and your

fellow organizers working to stop this plan, move from moving forward while getting the democrats to do whatever they can? >> well, first of all, we see a lot of allies with republicans. republicans are worried about that debt ceiling increase. that's part of the plan to give $4.5 trillion to the super wealthy. we're hearing a lot of concerns about republicans. also, we're hearing republicans who, you know, 76% of trump voters support that care infrastructure that i talked about child care, paid family, medical leave, home and community based services so our elders can age with dignity and people with disabilities can live with dignity. there's massive bipartisan support for those programs. the republicans in congress are out of step with their constituents. that's why moms, dads, parents, people across the united states of. america are rising for the programs that taxpayers have long supported. those programs include medicaid, k through 12, education, head start, and more. and so we see people rising up. we see people speaking up. we

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