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and planes in the air, together with others. europe must do the heavy lifting, but to support peace in our continent and to succeed, this effort must have strong us backing. >> announcement comes amid new fallout from that oval office meeting between zelenskyy and president trump. lawmakers today offering opposing takes. >> i've never. >> seen anything like president zelensky's behavior there, he berated and interrupted his host, and instead of expressing gratitude for the extraordinary help that the u.s. has provided his country and effectively helped him stay alive and stay in power, he's also been grateful to the united states. >> whenever i meet. >> with him, and i. >> met with. >> him with others. >> before his meeting. >> at the white house. >> he always expresses gratitude. >> for what zelensky asked. i thought, very. understandably in the white house was a.

>> simple. >> question how are. >> you going to trust. >> vladimir putin. >> when he. has sat down at the negotiating table multiple times before and never honored the agreement? >> meantime, tariffs against mexico and canada are set to start tuesday, the administration saying president trump has yet to decide if they will be the full 25%, but the tariffs will not cause inflation to spike. >> we have the. >> experience of president trump's first term, where the tariffs. >> the did. >> not affect prices. >> and it's a. >> holistic approach that there will be tariffs, there will be cuts and regulation. there will be cheaper energy. so i would expect that very quickly. we will be down to the fed's 2% target. so i'm expecting inflation to continue dropping over the year. >> meantime, thousands turned out in national parks across the u.s. saturday to protest the firing of national park service employees. and then in vermont,

another protest. there you see that crowd gathering where vice president vance was skiing with his family, many holding up ukrainian flags and pro ukraine signs. so we've got a sprawl of new developments at this hour, both here and overseas. and we have analysts and correspondents set to cover all fronts for us. we're going to begin in london with nbc's megan fitzgerald. so, megan, the uk prime minister, gathered 19 world leaders for an emergency ukraine summit, notably without the us. what came of this meeting? >> well, you know, alex, this was certainly a strong show of unity, showing that european allies and canada are united around ukraine. certainly in light of what we saw in the oval office on friday. you know, there's an understanding that the stakes here have never been higher. and now is the time for european allies and along with the united kingdom, to take the reins in leading the free world.

and so what came out of this meeting today, according to prime minister keir starmer, is that the uk, france and others will work together with ukraine to try and figure out a plan to stop the fighting. they will then present that plan to president trump. we don't know a timeline on when that's going to happen, but that came out of the meeting along with creating something called the coalition of the willing. so starmer says that this is european allies have have realized that they need to increase defense spending. and those who can will they will do so. how much? which countries? details of the sort have not come out yet, but this is something that he says they're working on with urgency. he also went on to say that they are going to keep military aid flowing to ukraine. they intend on keeping economic pressure on russia. he went on to say that, you know, when asked about peacekeeping, that the united kingdom is committed to putting boots on the ground in ukraine once a cease fire deal is met,

and having air support in the in the air. of course, all of this coming after that fiery situation that we saw in the oval office. but i want you to hear a little bit of what he had to say just moments ago. >> nobody wanted to see what happened last friday. but i do not accept that the us is an unreliable ally. the discussions we have had today, particularly the coalition of the willing, is on the basis that this is a plan that we will work with, with the us and that it will have us backing. so that is the purpose of the plan, and that is why i spoke to president trump last night. >> and he also went on to say that he wouldn't have led the meeting as he did today, if he didn't think that he would have the support and the backing of the united states. as he mentioned there. he had a conversation with president

trump last night. and, you know, we are also seeing the uk sort of leading by example here last night, keir starmer pledging some three, nearly $3 billion in military aid to ukraine. and then earlier today another $2 billion, which he says will allow ukraine to purchase some 5000 air defense missiles. and then, of course, switching gears just moments ago, we know that a meeting wrapped up between king charles and president zelensky in sandringham. that meeting lasted a little under an hour, but we understand that he was met with a warm reception. alex. >> okay. megan fitzgerald, thank you so much for that. let's go now to nbc's yamiche alcindor, who's at the white house for us. yamiche, what are we hearing from the administration today in response to all that's happened the last few days? >> well, we're hearing from really close allies of president trump as well as his cabinet members, and they are defending president trump, saying that it was president zelensky who was

disrespectful and who escalated this confrontation, this extraordinary confrontation in the oval office. here's secretary of state marco rubio, who himself was the one who told president zelensky that he needed to leave the white house this morning. >> right now, there is no negotiation. shouldn't we at least try to see if there is a way to end this war in a way that's acceptable to both sides and is enduring and sustainable? how is that a bad thing? i really am puzzled why anyone thinks that trying to be a peacemaker is a bad thing. it's only a bad thing when it's donald trump trying to do it, when it's president trump. it's absurd to me. >> and again, that was marco rubio, the secretary of state, who was himself the one who told president zelensky and ukrainian officials that they needed to leave after that confrontation in the oval office. a number of white house officials said that they huddled with the president after the meeting and decided that zelensky could not go forward with any of the other things that were planned for the day, which, of course, was a press conference, as well as signing a rare earth minerals deal that would have given the

u.s. valuable rights to ukrainian minerals. we should also note that white house officials are saying over this weekend that all negotiations between ukrainian officials and white house officials, trump administration officials are on hold. it's still unclear whether or not that will go forward at some point. president trump has left the door open, saying that he wants president zelensky to tell him that he's interested in peace. of course, president zelensky has said that all along, but it's very interesting to hear the president leave that door open. so we're waiting to see what else could happen here and when negotiations could restart. alex. >> okay. yamiche, thank you so much from the white house. well, joining me right now, we have julian castro, former secretary of housing and urban development, along with don calloway, host of the caucus room podcast and ceo of pine street strategies, and republican strategist susan del percio. all are msnbc political analysts. so, guys, good to have you here. julian, when you see this summit, is there the sense that the us, more specifically the trump administration, has willfully written itself out of

the picture for now and regardless of european efforts, is that dangerous for u.s. national security and global security? >> well, there's no question that that. >> immediately and in the long. >> term. >> this hurts. >> the united states. >> first of all, it's. >> a betrayal. of our pro-democracy values. >> here you have a president that is essentially siding with a dictatorship, with an authoritarian regime, and against a country that is fighting for its democratic sovereignty, and that was attacked by russia. secondly, it does scramble our our most entrenched alliances, the nato alliances, our relationships with europe and its leaders. it scrambles a plan for ukraine. it weakens their sense of our commitment not only to this, but i bet to other pro-democracy efforts across the globe and also will embolden dictators around the world. and then finally, it isolates the united states in the long run. and i

think as we look at the next five, ten, 15 years and on out from there, that's the biggest problem, is that it's going to isolate the united states and weaken our position around the world more and more. >> susan, you had republican lisa murkowski, who posted about the oval office meeting, saying in part, i'm sick to my stomach as the administration appears to be walking away from our allies and embracing putin, a threat to democracy and u.s. values around the world. i mean, other republicans also spoke out, some with measured statements, but a few prominent figures with some full throated support of what happened in the oval office. does the apparent abandonment of an ally for long, for a long time adversary that that flip? does it at least quietly worry gop elected officials? >> to some. >> extent private? privately it will, and they will have those conversations. but it does not mean that they. >> will take. >> this forward to the president right now. and jon meacham mentioned it in your previous

segment. donald trump is going to be applauded by his base for doing what he did. not everyone sees it through what i think, secretary castro properly said, is a horrible move. >> but. >> not everyone sees it that way. trump supporters don't see it that way. and republicans elected officials are afraid to go against the president. i still think they don't realize the power they actually have, because no one has ever challenged trump because they're afraid of a primary. i say go ahead and challenge him and see what happens when he tries to get the rest of his agenda through. and he can't until he starts coming to. he'd, frankly, on issues of national security, but trump doesn't. you know, trump's worldview is a lot different, too. i don't i think that he is okay with turning his back on europe. he doesn't care about 1015 years. he just cares about being strong and looking like perhaps a guy who's willing to stand up to or stand toe to toe with putin.

>> not. >> against him. it's important, don, to remember that trump's first impeachment came after trump's phone call with his zelensky, where he suggested military support for ukraine could depend on ukraine helping investigate hunter biden's business dealings there. now, this was well before the invasion. but at the root of this, is there something about zelensky that's always going to irritate trump? and is he allowing personal grievances to influence whether to stand up for democracy around the world? >> absolutely. and i'm so glad you brought that up, alex. and underexplored element of this whole thing is that we know that donald trump is an extraordinarily petty and vindictive guy, and we have not discussed as a national media so far that he and zelensky go back to the call which got president trump impeached in the first place. the entire trump legacy looks a whole lot different. if he were not once but twice impeached, and volodymyr zelensky is at the beginning of that. i also want to say this is

an incredible turning point, whether we know about the geopolitical ramifications of what's happening in eastern europe or not, we should know this. america has always stood on the side of democracy, on the side of freedom, and particularly on the side of smaller countries resisting being taken over and subsumed by larger companies. excuse me, larger companies. that's freudian, but kind of kind of apt here. but larger countries who are doing what? russia, america has always stood on the side of the smaller oppressed countries in this respect. so this is a fundamental turning point. and i'd also just like to say, when you are berating and beating up volodymyr zelensky, remember he's speaking in his third language. so he's probably the smartest person in that room. he has no leverage. he has none of the support that he got from the european countries right here in the american and in the oval office. but this is a man speaking in his third language who is doing everything he can to keep his country alive in this existential moment. so

we should think about the situation he's in and salute him for how he was able to handle that pressure. >> that's also a really good point. speaking in his third language, i mean, for those of us who speak two languages, just going between one and the next, you're like, wait a minute, you know, pause. so, julian politico writes, zelensky quote, seems to have forgotten the first rule in dealing with trump flattery is the coin of the realm, and perceived insults, especially in public, will quickly get you kicked to the curb. so are other world leaders going to sufficiently flatter trump, or do you think we would see more incidents like this if they take a stand against him? see, this kind of just back and forth, these attacks, one against the other? >> yeah. i mean, like, you know, this is a man child, right? like, we've been dealing with a little kid here as president basically, for now, this is his second term. somebody that you have to constantly flatter, stay in the good graces of. and if you make a mistake like marco rubio did and looking like he

was about to pass out and like he wasn't completely on board as jd vance and trump were berating zelensky, then you need to put out a tweet right away saying, no, no, no, the president is right. we've all seen those cabinet meetings, the one like they just had the other day, where everybody is fawning all over trump. sure. that's the way to keep him at bay. keep him from aiming his fire at you. but it's no way to actually run a country or to be the leader of the most powerful nation in the world and exercise leadership on a global scale. and so, again, it just it emphasizes how personal everything is to donald trump. and if you really do public policy and leadership, right, everything can't be that personal or you're going to get a lot of things wrong the way that he is. >> okay. and don and susan, you guys stay with me because we're going to look ahead to president trump's big speech this week on capitol hill in just a bit. but first, he got an earful. what happened to one congressman at a recent town hall? you're going to see some of it and he's going

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for performance issues, which is. >> utterly untrue. >> just cut me. >> to the quick. >> we are hemorrhaging talent. probationary does not mean just a year. we've lost people for 20 years of service, 15 years of service, people who are veterans. >> she loves efficiency. >> she loves finding ways to make things. >> work faster and better. >> she has done it to help her. >> coworkers, and ultimately, that helps. >> the american people. that's who these people fired. dedicated, efficient, capable people. >> joining me now, the democratic congressman from virginia who held that town hall, sue subramaniam. welcome. i know you are a member of the house oversight committee. so let's get into the heart wrenching personal stories from your district where there are many federal workers. what did you hear from your constituents overall? >> yeah. you know, i heard a couple of things. first of all, this is obviously a difficult time. i mean, these are folks who, you know, many of them are veterans, especially veterans with disabilities. many of them, you know, they took less money to work in the public sector to

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>> so they're asking you to do that, i presume, in other things. but do you feel like you have power as a lawmaker to push back against the trump administration's cuts? >> yeah, we are not powerless. and, you know, some folks have reached out feeling helpless. and i've told them, you have a real voice here. i certainly there's litigation happening and we've had a lot of successes there. but even outside of the litigation part of it, you know, i'm part of a litigation task force. but we also, by sharing the stories of what's happening at the agencies, some of my constituents have become whistleblowers, and they've also gotten some of these folks to walk back. some of their actions, walk back firings, walk back some of their moves here by just publicizing what's happening. i mean, in the end, the court of public opinion is just as important, if not more important than the court of law right now. so yes, this is illegal. we're winning in court, but we're also going to win in the court of public opinion the more people speak out. so that's what i've told people. and i see it as my job to give people that voice. >> so i want to dig into the law

here, because the office of personnel management is sending out more emails demanding federal workers list their accomplishments last week. you're a lawyer. does this directive seem legal to you? because government workers are worried they could lose their jobs, whether or not they respond? >> yeah, i you know, every, you know, agency has their own protocols. but, you know, i would say that these emails, i've told people to just ignore them. last time they tried to do it, they ended up walking it back because it was so unpopular, even among republicans, even among the administration. and so, you know, there's no reason. i mean, what do you what is an air traffic controller say about the things they did last week? you know, like we didn't have any plane crash at my airport. like, these are ridiculous things. some of you know, if you work at the fbi, you don't even want to share, you know, some of the classified things you see on email. and it's just demeaning. it's meant to try to break people's spirit. but i've told people just, you know, keep doing the work that you do and, you know, i'll do everything i

can to push back on what's happening. >> then you have hundreds of employees at noaa and the national weather service who were fired this past week in the trump administration claims none of those roles were considered critical. but as a member of the committee on science, space and technology, what do you see as the impacts on these and other cuts to scientific efforts and research? >> yeah, one of the maybe underreported aspects of this whole program is the war on science and technology. i mean, you've got cuts at nih, nsf, people being fired across the board there, and now you've got this, you know, noaa, you know, make sure that, you know, our weather is accurate and you know, this this is information that farmers and fishermen and airlines rely on. and even, you know, warning people about tornadoes and hurricanes. we need really good, accurate data. and noah provides it. and, you know, i think what they want to do is privatize weather

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>> i think. >> that state of the union speech. >> is going to be a farce. >> i think it's going. >> to be a maga pep. >> rally, not a. serious talk. to the nation. >> i think. donald trump is. going to spew. >> a. >> series of. >> lies about. >> his alignment. >> with russia. >> about what he's trying to do. >> to allow. elon musk to. >> essentially monetize the american government, to. enrich musk and his billionaire crowd. and i'm just not going to be a. >> part of that. >> julian castro. don calloway and susan del percio are back with me. so, don, michigan senator elissa slotkin will be giving the response to trump's joint address to congress on tuesday. is she the right choice and what message should she deliver? >> you know, elissa slotkin is a very talented member of the democratic caucus. i'm happy because she's clearly of the younger generation of elected officials on that national stage. and i think that that's a positive to give this platform

to that younger generation. and i also say that historically, as secretary castro knows very well, you're not going to get anywhere near the magnitude of the pulpit that the president has. so anyone who does this is in a very tough spot. now, politically, i don't know how the dnc gets to senator slotkin. she's exciting. she's new, she's young, but she does not represent the constituency that democrats hemorrhaged in losing to president trump. i would be looking to pivot towards someone who helps capture back that group that we think we did not perform as well with in this presidential election. and frankly, it's time to start thinking beyond the confines of current senators or house members. perhaps it's time for someone who is not anywhere near the elected official realm, who can come and talk to the american people representing a democratic opposition. but from an outside perspective, because not too many people know senator slotkin, and she's already got the disadvantage of not being able to match the platform that this president has. so i'm actually looking forward to seeing a whole bunch of

independent media responses as well. and that's kind of a trend that we've seen developing over the last several states of the union. >> susan, in addition to that, cnn polling, a cbs poll found that the vast majority feel trump is making major changes to the government. 40% say it's for the worse, 35% for the better. and the message after the election was that americans voted for cheaper groceries. do they feel like they're getting what they voted for? clearly not. or the arrows would. >> be in a. >> completely different direction because he is breaking things in washington. he's met. he's challenging the status quo, especially through elon musk. but i would argue he's doing that because he has not done anything on the economy. alex, this is basically even the even with what happened with zelensky, i think he's happy to talk about this because they know come march 12th when they see those inflation numbers come out, it's probably not going to be in their favor and that donald trump will have to own them. this is the first

inflation report we'll see under a trump 2.0. so i think when it comes down to the state of the union or excuse me, the address to the joint houses, we're going to see donald trump focus on anything but the economy. and he because he has nothing to. >> show on it. >> julian, let's take a look at this nbc reporting. because federal workers are organizing, spurred to action by the firings and attacks on government agencies. and one woman who lost her job said she would have worked with the administration had they looked for ways to be efficient. instead, quote, what they've done is they've radicalized me. i mean, given all that the trump administration is doing, what do you expect to hear tuesday? and would you attend as a democrat? >> well, i mean, i think that donald trump is going to get up there again and he's going to give a scripted speech, and you're going to have some commentators laud him for

sounding presidential just because he's able to read a speech and that it's going to be more of the distraction and the gaslighting that you always hear from trump and from his supporters. but what the american people contend with every day are, as susan was noting, the costs that are still going up. inflation is still going up. they're not getting the results that that many of them wanted if they voted for trump. they thought about voting for trump. and so i think he's going to continue to try and distract us from that. i'm glad to see senator murphy saying that he's not going to be there. the thing that i hear across the board from democrats out there in different walks of life is, where are the democrats? why aren't they pushing back more? now they're starting to do it more than they were at the beginning, but they need to figure out ways to break through here in the media, the new media environment, to tell their constituents, yes, we're doing something. and i have to say that has to include some, you know, notable ways that you push back, not attending, you know, other types of protests that

they do to send a clear message that what trump is doing is wrong and they stand for something different. if you don't do that, i think that you risk deflating democrats and not having the kind of 2026 that could be a tsunami against republicans if trump continues on the path that he's on. >> you know, don, speaking of pushback and all that, kansas republican senator roger marshall faced significant pushback at his town hall yesterday, which apparently made him leave early. take a listen to this. >> what you're doing. >> right now. >> like the government is doing right now as. >> far as cutting out. >> those jobs. >> a huge percentage of those people. and i don't. >> even. >> know who you care about the veterans. >> or veterans. >> you got two more commitments today. appreciate everybody making the drive out and god bless america. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> for our our. >> our our.

>> you. >> yeah. they were they were saying it not an hour. you're not done. listen this is now common. gop leaders have even advised lawmakers to not hold town halls. what does that tell you? >> well, you know, it shows that they don't want to have to stand in front of the people and explain what this presidency is doing. and honestly, it's largely because they're disconnected from it, from everything that i'm observing on the hill right now. this is like the last ten years with the trump administration, prestigious republican stakeholders and senators are whispering about this not being what they expected to see, but they're not doing anything to stand up in front of it. and frankly, it's never a time, ten years into the trump experiment. now, we can't expect senator marshall or the, you know, the republican senate caucus to stand up and say, even if they do catch heat at town halls. but i would like to expect more from my beloved democratic party. senator, secretary castro just laid out yesterday, we do need

to see increased protest and such, but it's not time for protest. i've been around the world and had the good fortune of running campaigns in lesser developed countries. they don't look at themselves when they're not in power as the minority party, they look at themselves as the opposition party. and trump has thrown us outside of the norms of american politics. i wish democrats would start behaving as an opposition party as opposed to a minority party, because the republican caucus, from going from the freedom caucus to this trump experiment and onward, has been willing to throw out all the norms of what we expect of proper american democracy. democrats don't seem to be willing to match that energy. and i think you have to start with a willingness to understand what it looks like to be an actual opposition party, as opposed to the polite, interesting. >> one last quick question to you, susan, on former new york governor andrew cuomo officially launching his campaign for new york city mayor more than three years after having to resign amid those accusations of sexual harassment. you served as a special advisor to cuomo in

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season this year and now rapidly growing measles outbreak, it would seem these meetings about vaccinations should be a top priority. can you explain what these meetings were about and any word on why they were canceled? >> well, to. >> answer your first question, these meetings are very important, and they happen every single year right around this time. so scientists can get together to try to figure out what strains of the flu virus that we need to put in next year's flu shots. this is the time that scientists around the world do this. and the concern here is that we are not going to have enough flu shots in time for the next flu season. drugmakers are already under a tight deadline to get those doses made. they cannot start working on those doses until the fda signs off on what flu strains they will have to include. usually they have those, you know, those doses moving out and being distributed by the end of july. now, as you said, remember, this is this is happening in one of the, you

know, worst flu seasons we've had in years. 19,000 adults have died, 86 kids have died. there has been nearly 1 million hospitalizations. and hospitalizations are really the focus of why doctors say we need to get those flu shots ready. because while they're not very good at preventing infection, you can still get the flu. they are pretty darn good at keeping people out of the hospital. this past season's flu shot 50% effective in preventing hospitalization in adults and up to 78% effective in kids. now, to answer your second question, hhs, under the direction of secretary kennedy, has not offered any explanation for why those meetings were canceled. alex. >> wow. well, earlier this week, kennedy did address the growing measles outbreak. and here's what he had to say about that. >> we put out. >> a. >> post on it. >> yesterday. >> and we're going. >> to continue to follow it. incidentally, i've been for.

>> measles outbreaks. this year in this country. last year there were 16. so it's not unusual in measles. >> outbreaks every year. >> is he right? and i'm curious your reaction to his response. >> there are measles cases that pop up pretty much every year. they are nearly always because someone traveled outside of the country who was not vaccinated and brought measles back into this country. fortunately, so far, you know, we haven't had outbreaks like we're seeing right now because, you know, most people are vaccinated with that mmr vaccine. you know, he really was appearing to downplay the outbreak. that's now, you know, sickened 146 people in texas alone. doctors there who i've talked with said the number is way more than that, up to 300. now. you know, last night kennedy posted on x that ending the measles outbreak is a top

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welcome. i know you covered the tate brothers extensively. you've interviewed both. brother interviewed andrew. both of them are facing criminal charges on sex trafficking in romania. also, a civil lawsuit over alleged sexual abuse in the uk. they deny all charges and accusations against him, and their attorney says they are going to return to romania to meet with prosecutors on march 24th, before coming back to florida in 2023. they filed a defamation suit in palm beach county against an unnamed woman, but their attorney says their return to the us is unrelated to that case. so the question for you why are they here? >> i think it's important. >> just to remind ourselves of how serious the allegations against the tate brothers are. in total, across all of the indictments and lawsuits and criminal charges against them, there's around 48 alleged victims, and the brothers are accused of trafficking, raping, grooming or physically abusing

these 48 alleged victims, at least two of whom were allegedly minors at the time that this happened. so you're right. the real question is why would the trump administration support their return to the us, which appears to be what happened so recently. richard grenell, who is a tate supporter and a special envoy of the trump administration, appears to have put pressure on the romanian government to remove the judicial control of the brothers while they await their trial in romania and allow them to travel to the us. >> so you're suggesting, i've heard you suggest that their alliance with the trump administration has been a long time coming, and here is a little bit from both of them. take a listen. >> they're forcing a generational failure upon their constituents. donald trump is the future of the western world. everybody knows it and everybody needs to get in line and obey him. he runs the world. he's a

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essentially fabricated to try and cancel them for because they don't, you know, agree with some woke agenda, supposedly. i mean, this is all part of an attempt, both by the tates themselves and now by members higher up in the trump administration to characterize this human trafficking investigation as some kind of illegitimate political campaign against the tates. >> so, matt, who is andrew tate? what's his story? what's he all about? you've interviewed him. >> andrew tate is a kind of failed reality television star and kickboxer who, in a very short space of time, became one of the most famous people in the world by manipulating the social media algorithms on tiktok and on twitter. social media algorithms which favored controversial content to make himself famous. at one point, he was the most googled man in the world, hugely popular amongst young men across all of western society, and he then used that

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