tv Alex Witt Reports MSNBC March 2, 2025 12:00pm-1:00pm PST
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>> good day from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome, everyone, to alex witt reports. we begin this hour with some new warning signs for president trump as he prepares to deliver a joint address to congress tuesday. it is the first of his second term. new polling for the president shows most americans believe his policies are taking the country in the wrong direction. on the other side of the pond, global leaders gathering today at an emergency summit in london. ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky meeting with global leaders, including britain's king charles, to discuss a plan for peace with russia. >> we are at a crossroads in history today. this is not a moment for more talk. it's time to act. time to step up and lead. >> back in the states, new reaction to friday's historic exchange in the oval office. >> i want to.
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>> address directly that this was. >> some type of ambush. is absolutely false. >> president zelensky's immediate escalation. >> there was was frankly quite a surprise. >> this has created a. >> huge rift in the relationship. >> if this was a democrat. >> that was doing this, everyone would be saying, well, he's on his way to the nobel peace prize. this is absurd. we are trying to end a war. >> i think what we saw was. shameful and horrible. right? >> the supposed leader of the. >> free world. >> siding with an autocrat over democracy. do you think. >> that president. >> zelensky needs to resign in order. >> for. >> there. >> to. >> be a peace deal? >> i think that is a horrific suggestion. >> also this week, tariffs as high as 25% against mexico and canada are set to start tuesday. existing tariffs on goods will from china. they'll be doubled as well. >> we lay people off. you lose jobs, you lose prosperity. i don't see it as a logical step,
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but it's it seems to be what the president wants to do. exactly what form it's going to take. we still don't know. >> and it comes amid a wave of protests, crowds showing up outside tesla stores across the u.s. upset about the automaker's ceo, elon musk, and his efforts to slash government spending. and then in vermont, this happened. hundreds of protesters gathered where the vice president was skiing with his family, many people holding up ukrainian flags and pro ukraine signs. then in new orleans today, heavy security in place as the city prepares to celebrate mardi gras in the shadow of the deadly new year's attack. live reports later on this hour. we also have a number of reporters and analysts in place ready to go over all these new and developing storylines. we'll begin with nbc's yamiche alcindor, who's at the white house for us. yamiche, president trump is preparing for his first major address of his second term. what can we expect to hear from him tuesday. >> to protect peace in europe, as the once steadfast support
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that he sees as accomplishments including immigration, including tariffs, that he's put on countries and expects to put on countries like mexico and canada as well as china. we also expect the president to talk about what he says are needed cuts to wait to root out waste, fraud and abuse in the country. so we expect him to talk about those department of government efficiency cuts and defend them. we've also heard that there are going to be some surprises as well as made for tv moments. we, of course, know that the president spent a long time in reality tv. so he has really leaned into the producing of this. sources have told us that he was doing speech prep this weekend, so we expect there to be this sort of draft floating around. and for the president to be perfecting that over the weekend. the other thing that we're hearing is that the president is going to be talking at some point about, of course, the issues abroad, both in the middle east and the ceasefire deal that may or may not be on the table there with israel and hamas, but also possibly ukraine, especially given that, of course, that confrontation
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that happened in the oval office. now, we should say, when it comes to that oval office confrontation, we have been hearing from the president's allies as well as cabinet members. here's treasury secretary scott. >> president trump is. >> trying to. >> move towards peace. >> he said repeatedly. >> during during. >> that episode. >> in the oval. >> we don't know if we'll get a peace deal, but. >> we've got to try. >> all president zelenskyy had to do. >> was come in. >> and sign this economic agreement. >> and again. >> show no daylight. >> no daylight between. >> ukrainian people and the american people. and he chose to blow. >> that up. >> so the deal is no longer on the table. just to be. >> abundantly clear. >> not at present. >> so there is scott bassett, the treasury secretary, really echoing what we've heard from a number of other cabinet officials, taking the side, of course, of president trump saying that he did the right thing and that he was really trying to advocate for a peace deal, and that it was president zelensky that was being disrespectful, as well as not being open to some of the arguments and the things that
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president trump was putting before him that he believes will bring an end to the war between russia and ukraine. so a lot there that he could cover in the joint address. it's going to be very interesting to see exactly what he says about ukraine, alex. >> sure will. all right. yamiche, thank you so much from the white house. and we have this breaking news from overseas as ukrainian president zelenskyy just finished a meeting with king charles after the emergency summit with european leaders. nbc's megan fitzgerald, once again from london. london is joining us. so, megan, break down the key players who are at the summit and how europe says they're going to step up their support of ukraine. >> yeah. >> so, you know, i mean, these european leaders understand the time is now that the stakes couldn't be higher, that it is abundantly clear that they need to do more in support of ukraine and in defense of ukraine. and so we saw these 18 leaders from across europe and of course, the prime minister of canada coming together today. we heard from prime minister keir starmer of the united kingdom. he sort of
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broke down what happened today. he says that the united kingdom, along with france and other allies, are going to be working with the ukrainians to try and develop a ceasefire deal that they will then present to donald trump. there's no timeline that's been put around when we could see that happen, but that was something that was on the agenda today that they discussed. they also talked about something called the coalition of the willing. this is where european countries that are in a position to provide more funding to spend more will do so with urgency. he went on to say that military aid, they all agreed, will just continue to flow to ukraine, and that economic pressure on russia will continue. he also said that he had a conversation with donald trump last night, and that he believes he feels confident that, you know, he wouldn't have had this on the agenda today. all that they discussed, if he didn't feel that he had the backing of the united states, even in light of what we saw in the oval office on friday. i
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want you to listen to a little bit of what prime minister starmer had to say. >> and today i'm announcing a new deal which allows ukraine to use 1.6 billion pounds of uk export finance to buy more than 5000 air defense missiles. the uk is prepared to back this with boots on the ground and planes in the air, together with others. europe must do the heavy lifting. >> so we are seeing prime minister starmer stepping out in a big way, in a leadership way, of trying to encourage all of his fellow allies here in europe and, of course, canada, to come together to make a difference. so he's announced yesterday, shortly after meeting with zelenskyy, that he's going to be contributing, as he said, about $3 billion in military aid. then today, saying another $2 billion going to ukraine. he's paving the way and he's trying to get
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other european allies to get on board as they continue this process of trying to secure peace in ukraine. alex. >> okay. megan fitzgerald, thank you so much from london. let's bring in stef kight, political reporter for axios, and kayla gardiner, white house correspondent for bloomberg. i'm glad to see you both. so ahead of today's meeting. european leaders overwhelmingly expressed support for ukraine after friday's oval office face off. stef, what fallout is the white house facing abroad? >> i mean, certainly looking at the public. >> statements from. >> foreign. >> leaders. >> trump's actions. >> and the meeting with zelensky on friday. >> really set off a lot of alarm bells for leaders around the world. >> and we're seeing that very. >> clearly and seeing the response, you know, as we were just just watching. >> there just. >> a minute ago from europe, the way that. >> you know, countries have. >> come. >> together and backed. zelensky and promised to continue to do more to step up. in some ways, this is one of the things that trump has. >> said he. >> wanted to see. trump has said
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he wants europe to be doing more, that there shouldn't be an overreliance on the us. and so the question here is whether some of these actions by. european nations end up getting trump back to the table, or whether that meeting on. friday really did. >> deteriorate, deteriorate the. >> relationship so deeply between ukraine and the us that that trump really does follow through and starts to step away from active u.s. support for ukraine. >> and to that end, kayla, the white house says negotiations between the u.s. and ukraine are paused until further notice. so what are both sides asking for that would help restart discussions? >> president trump and the white house are specifically. >> asking for an apology. >> from zelenskyy. >> they believe that he. >> was the one who acted in the wrong here. but president trump. >> has shown. >> time and time again that. >> he is really. >> willing to. negotiate from a place of strength. >> and he knows. >> that. >> the united. states needs to be a part of that conversation. >> that is something that both
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zelenskyy. >> and european. allies acknowledge. >> that they. >> need u.s. security. >> assurances in order to bring this war to an end. >> and even. >> though president trump. >> has not publicly made those assurances, he definitely left the door open. >> and this critical minerals deal, that seemed to be. something that. >> zelensky thought. >> would be a step towards those assurances. and if you really. >> listen to. >> president trump in that meeting, he seemed to. suggest that as well. when someone asked him, do you think putin would invade ukraine again? he said, no, because the u.s. would be invested in ukraine economically. so that seemed. >> to be a step. >> in the right direction. but it seems this. >> debate, this really heated. >> exchange, has. >> really put this off course. but really up until this point, it seemed that a cease fire, some sort of deal between. >> ukraine and russia. >> was very possible until that. >> moment that we've all now seen from friday. >> and several members of the administration made the rounds on the sunday shows to defend trump's reaction to zelensky. let's all watch this. >> but the question now is, can we get them to a table to negotiate? that's our goal.
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don't do anything to disrupt that. and that's what zelenskyy did. unfortunately. >> president trump recognizes the. urgent need to end this war. >> president zelensky. has different aims. >> in mind. >> it wasn't. >> clear. to us. >> that that. >> president zelensky was was ready. >> to negotiate. >> in good faith towards an end to this war. >> caleb, is this the general consensus among white house staffers, or is this also about damage control? >> well, i. >> think a big part of the context here is the us and ukraine relationship has been strained since before president trump took office. under biden, the intelligence from the us was that ukraine's military strategy was not working, and they were really questioning whether ukraine could win this war. and they were questioning, again, this has been three years now that the us has been continuously providing billions of dollars to aid to ukraine. so i think that is definitely carried over from administration. to administration. >> and it.
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>> seems that this was just an emotional moment here, but it seems that they are serious about getting back to the negotiating table. this was a promise that president trump made on the campaign trail to end this war. and i think that's very much still on his mind. >> and steph, on the other side, the us and russia have had a strained relationship for decades. ukraine is a longtime us ally. overall, lawmakers have shared this bipartisan view. it's been accepted, but it's been mostly democrats speaking out against the white house's handling of that meeting. are republicans generally okay with what happened in the oval office, or are some as stunned as the rest of the world, but perhaps too afraid to speak out against donald trump? >> i mean, republican lawmakers across the board were certainly stunned on friday. those i spoke to and just looking at some of the responses on x, but the way that they expressed their frustration and the person who they blame, of course, is zelensky. you know, seeing lindsey graham, for example, calling for zelensky to step aside, saying that they need a new ukrainian leader that the us
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can work with was remarkable. republicans definitely acknowledged that that meeting was a bad meeting for ukraine and u.s. relations, and no one is arguing that. but at the same time, to your point, republicans have defended trump, and it really does highlight this fracture we've seen in the republican party over this issue of us support for ukraine. we knew this was going to be a dividing issue. you know, over a year ago, the past two years, we've seen this become an issue in the three years since russia invaded ukraine, where there is the traditional republican hawks like mitch mcconnell, like lindsey graham, like roger wicker, who believe in the us continuing to support ukraine, our ally, no matter what. but then there is also this growing isolationist view among some republicans, including jd vance and some of the newer senators, republican senators who believe that the us should not continue to give billions and billions of dollars, regardless of the fact that ukraine is an ally, that you need to draw a line there.
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so it's been fascinating to watch that play out in real time, and everyone has been waiting to see where president trump was going to fall on this. and so we'll be watching very closely these next steps. but there's no question that it was a very damaging meeting on friday. >> yeah. i'm curious, kayla, your expectations for president trump's tuesday address to congress, do you think he's going to have to use his first major speech of his second term to defend his approach to governing and diplomacy? >> i think there's two really key things that i'm looking for him to address. one is the economy. we have started to see signs that americans are not feeling better about the economy and that they're feeling worse, particularly because of trump's willingness to use tariffs as a negotiating tactic. he's pledged reciprocal tariffs for pretty much any nation that has any sort of tariff or non-tariff barrier to us goods. and so he's certainly going to have to assure americans that's still a top priority for him. and also because of doge and elon musk leading this effort to really trim staff to trim spending
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across pretty much all of government. and this is something that impacts the whole country. the majority of federal workers don't work in washington, d.c. they work around the country. and so americans continue to have questions about whether that is going about in a very thoughtful process, particularly as we've seen people fired and then rehired. and so those are the two major things that i'm expecting him to address. but of course, this fresh off of this zelensky meeting, that is going to be a huge question for him to really show that he's this strong person. and i think he has tried to continuously do that show that he is very firm in his beliefs, firm in his agenda. and i think that's something that we're going to continue to see him do at state of the union. >> last question to you, steph, because democrats on capitol hill are weighing whether or not they're going to attend trump's speech on tuesday. and here's what senator chris murphy said this morning when asked why he's sitting this one out. >> i think. that state of the union speech. >> is going to be a farce. i think. >> it's. >> going to be a maga pep rally.
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>> not a. >> serious talk to the nation. >> any sense, when there are a significant number of democrats are going to follow suit? >> you know, a few of my colleagues spent a lot of time talking with democrats about this question. and there's kind of a divide where some believe that the best course of action is to attend and bring guests who have been impacted by some of these cuts. it's something that democratic leadership on the hill has encouraged their lawmakers to do, to still attend, but come and protest in your own way within the chamber and others like chris murphy. and i'm sure we will see others join him, believe that it's not worth going at all. and so either way, i think we are going to see democrats protest trump and the moves that he's made thus far in his second term. some will do so by not attending, and others will do so by what they wear and who they bring on tuesday. >> okay, steph and kayla gardner good to see you both. thank you ladies. new reaction to europe's ukraine summit. a member of ukraine's parliament will join ukraine's parliament will join me in 90s.
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way that that went down was was very disappointing. >> top republicans and trump advisers are chastising the ukrainian president today after a clash with president trump in the oval office. but not everyone is putting the fault on zelensky. joining me now we have kira rudik, a ukrainian member of parliament, and i'm glad to see you again. it's been a while, but you just heard the house speaker and donald trump's national security advisor giving their perspective on what happened between your president and donald trump on friday. how do ukrainians see it? hello, alex. >> and thank you so much for having me. well, we in ukraine. >> see it. >> the way that president zelensky, who is the president of the country in the war, that ukraine did not start, it was started by russia, was coming to the white house to sign the rare minerals deal and also to explain and bring the reality of the war to the white house. what he has heard is was really
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terrifying to all of us, saying that the only security guarantees that ukraine may be getting is donald trump's belief that putin will listen to him and would not attack us again. well, we do not accept the security guarantees. and president zelensky was trying to explain that we have already been there. we have already had agreements with putin. we had a ceasefire with putin. and you know what? it never worked. moreover, we have paid an ultimate price with the lives of our people for the illusions that were there in the past. and he was trying to persuade president trump not to repeat the mistakes of the past. and look where it all got us. but there is one thing that is clear on a human level. i just hope, alex, that when president was standing up to donald trump, he knew that his country is behind him and his people are behind him because it is true, and we really are. even though i'm a
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leader of an oppositional party, i think right now we need to stand together same way as we were doing that before. >> well, i'm sure he'll appreciate hearing that and having that sense of unity behind him. but what do you think it would take to repair this relationship between zelensky and trump? >> well, alex, we have a great example of over the last two weeks, donald trump was calling zelensky a dictator and saying that ukraine started the war. and then when asked, he didn't even remember that he said that. and so i think if we let a couple of days slide and i think perhaps, maybe we should change the negotiator and we can start moving forward. we have president macron and keir starmer behind us, i think, trying to soften the situation. honestly, i don't think anyone wanted it to end this way. but we have what we have. i can tell
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you also, as a ukrainian politician, it was very hard to explain people at the battlefield why president of the united states was saying what he was saying about about our country. they're like, i also was like i was out of explanations, starting with the fact that ukraine did not start the war and then that he trusts putin and that president zelensky doesn't want peace. we are the country that wants peace the most, because every night we are under attack and we are paying the price. but we also know that the previous ways of trying to end it did not work. alex, the only way that is working that we are proving right now is to fight back, and we are trying to deliver this message. we are trying to deliver it for three years, every single day, and there are still hopes that we are for some reason, wrong. no, we are not. >> you mentioned keir starmer and francis macron, who said that uk and france are working out a ukraine peace plan.
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they're going to present it to the united states. but then on friday, zelenskyy said he can't trust russia to honor a ceasefire without security assurances from the us. you have made that point as well. so can the europeans really lead the peace process here? what will it take for ukraine to trust a ceasefire deal? >> the only way for us to trust the ceasefire deal is a clear agreement of how ukraine will be unarmed right now, and what would happen if russia breaks their part of the deal? because we know that it will happen because we have seen it in the past. so as of right now, we have not seen anything feasible. and the table that that would explain this. so we can we heard that everyone wants ceasefire. we heard that it would be great to have it, but we did not hear as of right now from anyone like what is exactly the plan. and we hope and we know that there are some discussions behind the scenes that our allies will be
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ready to present at some point, but it needs to be a practical way, because we have been with russia in the ceasefire since 2014. we have been telling the world russia is breaking their part of the deal. and alex, what happened? nothing. russia just gathered their forces in 2022 and attacked us. so we don't want to repeat the past. so we hope that europe gathers its forces and resources and will be able to have a united states aligned with this, and that will be a comprehensive plan of the peace deal. as of right now, it is not on the table. >> one last question, and it's based on what the kremlin today did, which was praise the united states, saying donald trump's foreign policy now largely coincides with russia's geopolitical vision. do you think russia is right? >> i think i think americans should be concerned if russia is
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saying that they are. president's vision is quite siding with russia's. we know that russia is allies with iran, north korea and china. is it like is it the team you want to be a part of? >> that is a question. and we'll leave that rhetorically there and see if others can answer it. kira rudik, it's good to speak with you. we do think about you. trust me, we do. and best of luck with everything. lots of people. police, rather are crashing one of the biggest parties in america. there are a lot of people there to the why and the where next? >> so i could take the steak home. yep. as many butterfly shrimp as i want. >> you got. >> it, kate. >> you can take home everything. >> those tongs, ice cream machine, dessert bar tray, that guy's hat. we're gonna let. >> that guy keep his hat. but that's more broccoli. >> thanks. i'm good land. oh. >> are you hiding from used car shopping? >> what if.
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invisible on the skin. it works like a dream. why didn't someone think of this sooner? >> thousands of revelers are packing the streets of new orleans this weekend for dozens of mardi gras parades and celebrations across the city. also joining the crowds. thousands of law enforcement. with security boosted to historic levels. nbc's jesse kirsch is among it all in new orleans. so, jesse, how are people feeling ahead of this big
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day on tuesday? that's what it's all gearing up to fat tuesday. >> yeah, alex, i can tell you we're already really in the thick of things. there have been parades going on all weekend. they continue into the evening. and just to give some perspective for people who haven't been to mardi gras before, the major parade last night went on for around five hours, give or take in either direction, just gives you an idea of how long these parties go on. the beads are flying in every direction out here on canal street where i am right now, and we're kind of in a little bit of a lull right now, but there are still some floats making their way in the background here. we've got hundreds, if not thousands of people lining just this little area in downtown new orleans. and these parade routes go on for miles. and that's actually one of the things that adds a curveball to security here, because like the super bowl, this is a high security event with additional federal resources. the change was made for mardi gras to have extra federal support in light of the new year's day attacks. so we're talking about teams that we're
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told that are going to be in the air, on the water and on foot here as well. we've seen some of the customs and border protection officers that are out here patrolling on the lookout for anything that seems off, but because we're looking at parades that stretch on for miles, as opposed to just protecting a stadium and bourbon street on top of bourbon street, this time around, they've got those long stretches of areas that could be vulnerable. here's part of what we heard from law enforcement about how this creates a different kind of challenge from the event, like the super bowl. when you're out here, are you paying more attention to all of them or what's going on behind them? >> pretty much what's going on behind them. >> you know, they're kind. >> of. >> focused on that. >> we. >> kind of sit back. kind of with an overall view. >> of what's. >> going on, kind of. like i said before, kind of head on a swivel, looking around, looking for. >> things that maybe don't. >> look right. >> or if an officer. >> is running. >> you know, to a situation. >> where they're to. >> kind of. >> quickly respond to those. >> types of situations.
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>> there are also hundreds of local police officers that were told, according to the police department here, that are dedicated to mardi gras festivities. so a big security footprint here. and alex, at last word from my check in with local police here. there are no major incidents to report. of course, that is good news. this is just a couple months after that deadly terror attack on new year's day that shook this city. and right now, trying to have have the party go on without any further issues like that. >> alex 100%. let's hope it stays that way. someone has a good time. jesse kirsch thank you. it's only been 48 hours since it happened, but this might be a case of if you don't laugh about it, you'll cry. as you might expect, our friends at saturday night live had something to say about friday's oval office meeting. they spoofed it with a blast from the past, turning up as elon musk. >> and i'd like to welcome president. zelensky here. >> to. >> this incredible trap. it's going to be a big, beautiful trap. mr. president.
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entire first order at fabletics. com as a new vip member. >> new word today on what to expect from president trump's joint congressional address tuesday, including what the white house says will include some surprises. one person who won't be there for the surprise is democratic senator chris murphy of connecticut. here's what he's saying today. >> i think. >> that state of the union. >> speech is going to be a farce. i think. >> it's. >> going to be a maga pep rally. >> not a serious talk to the nation. i think donald trump. is going to spew a. >> series of. lies about. >> his alignment. >> with russia. >> about what he's trying to do. to allow elon musk. to essentially monetize the american government, to. enrich musk and his billionaire crowd. and i'm just not going to be a.
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>> part of that. >> joining me now is mark leibovich, staff writer at the atlantic and msnbc political contributor and the author of thank you for your servitude donald trump's washington and the price of submission. hey, my friend, good to see you, mark. so as we look ahead to donald trump's address before congress on tuesday, we are sure to see typical trump touting what he views as his accomplishments. but there's a new cnn poll that shows his job approval remains negative heading into the address address, rather at 47%. could it be a case of some promises, like lower prices of gas and eggs being made but not kept? >> well, i mean, i think, you know, he'll probably. >> say a lot. >> of that. >> i mean, i wouldn't. >> be surprised if senator murphy. >> is not alone. >> i mean, i. >> assume there'll be a. >> number of. >> democratic no shows there. >> and i. >> assume this will. >> be mandatory attendance. >> for every. >> republican who's. >> elected. >> you know. >> on. >> capitol hill. >> so, i mean, i do think.
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>> it's going. >> to be very much a home game for trump. >> you know, given the makeup. >> of what the gallery is going. to look like. >> so i think it will. probably i mean, it will resound probably. >> more to a pep. >> rally kind of. >> thing. >> i imagine. you know, there won't be a lot of moments. >> that are kind. >> of back. >> and forth. >> certainly like there. >> were in. >> past state. >> of. >> the. >> union or. >> speeches of this nature. >> you know, look. >> donald trump. >> loves the spectacle. >> this is a spectacle. >> he seems. >> very. >> much in control. >> of this, and certainly in the crowd. >> wouldn't be. >> surprised if. >> there are some. >> kind of surprise guests. >> or surprise antics that that we. >> all talk about for the next few days. >> but listen, also on tuesday brings trump's promised tariffs against canada and mexico and an increase on china. he's also indicating he might put forth reciprocal tariffs on european countries. i mean, how do you expect mark this to play out? and what kind of damage could it do to our relationship with our allies? >> well, i mean, certainly, first of all, i mean, if donald trump is going to do this, he will certainly spin. >> it and cheerleader it in the most. >> probably. >> you know, loudest and. >> most unsubtle possible way
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you can imagine on tuesday night at the capitol. >> i mean. >> obviously. >> i mean. >> the. >> relationship with the allies right now. >> are in a. >> pretty precarious. >> place between not only the. >> trade stuff. >> but certainly the foreign policy. >> stuff. >> around ukraine. >> and russia and. >> so forth. >> you know, there are a lot of, you. >> know, sabers. >> being rattled around the world right now. >> and it seems like much of it includes people we have been in. >> alliance with for many, many years. >> so, look, i think this is part of that. i think it's part of the same spectacle and it seems very much part. >> of the same. >> blueprint for what. >> we're seeing so far in this presidency. >> so that explosive oval office meeting ended with zelensky being asked to leave the white house. reportedly, neither leader has spoken to each other since. what do you make of what happened, mark? and do you think their relationship can be salvaged? did zelensky not sufficiently demonstrate the last word in the title of your book? mandatory submission to trump? >> yeah, i mean, i think clearly i mean, that was one of the many sins that people saw. i mean, i think, you know, you can debate
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whether that was an ambush or whether it all happened spontaneously and so forth. but certainly trump and, you know, j.d. vance as his proxy. sitting right next to him, have become. >> accustomed. >> certainly in. >> this term. >> to a great deal of deference from pretty much anyone. >> i mean. >> that doesn't seem like he's. >> he's. >> you know. >> breaking bread with. >> a lot of democrats, but certainly everyone he's coming in. contact with, certainly on his white house team and his administration, certainly in congress, in the senate. >> you know, have. >> been largely republican and largely very. >> loyal to him. >> and i think have acted in a. way that has been quite ostentatious and obviously in keeping with what he demands. i don't know if that's what how it played out. i mean, obviously, i mean, that was a scene that. >> i. >> think we'll. >> be talking. >> about for a long time certainly seems to have dominated much of the weekend. >> as far. >> as you know, it only happened about 48 hours ago. so, you know, we'll see. i mean, i don't certainly think the relationship has been helped. i think, you know, europe certainly seems to have. rallied around zelensky and ukraine and i think that's got to be somewhat, you know, a pretty good a pretty good consolation for him at the very
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least. but obviously this relationship is fractured. and we're going to see, you know, how fractured and whether it. >> can be repaired. >> at this point. >> yeah. well today you have zelensky being greeted with open arms by european allies at that summit in london on the war in ukraine. british prime minister keir starmer said that he, along with french president emmanuel macron and zelensky, they have all agreed to work on a plan to stop the fighting and will take that to the us. does trump risk isolating the united states, or do you think that is actually part of his america first goal? >> i mean, in some ways it's the definition of his america first goal. i mean, yeah, you can call it isolationism. you can call it isolating, you can call it marginalizing, what have you. but but donald trump, and certainly by extension, much of the party and his supporters are very much, you know, in alignment with this. i mean, whether, you know, there are special carve outs for what you do in panama or what you do in greenland, what you do. you know, in, in the west bank and the gaza strip and so forth. who
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knows? but but look, i mean, donald trump feels like no matter what he does, whether it's isolationist or not, he has the backing of the people he needs, the people who elected him, and certainly one of our two major parties. and that's gotten them, you know, to this point. and i assume he'll ride it most of the way through. >> do you think he's going to hail this speech on tuesday as a as a victory speech? >> i imagine he will. and i imagine everyone in the republican party who speaks publicly about it will. i mean, i can't imagine there'll be a lot of critics within, you know, the gop at all. that's, you know, different from what we thought four years ago. but this is the new reality. this is trump two. i imagine this will be very much in the spirit of that. >> okay. mark leibovich, always good to see you. many thanks. thanks. so you have your favorites. i have my favorites. and next we're going to talk about who's going to win at the about who's going to win at the oscars tonight in los angeles. baby: liberty! mom: liberty mutual is all she talks about since we saved hundreds by bundling our home and auto insurance. baby: liberty! biberty: hey kid, it's pronounced "biberty."
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>> oh. >> i mean succession. on succession. >> jeremy strong is. >> up for the. >> apprentice. >> but i think it's going to be kieran culkin. i mean, he's. >> done well in all the other awards so far. i think this is a. pretty much a solid one for him with a real pain. >> okay. best supporting actress. >> it's got to. >> be zo for you talked about emily perez. >> i mean, again, we're looking at precedent. >> here. >> and that's. >> always what is kind. >> of a good indication. >> never a solid. >> thing. >> but a good indication. >> to what's happening. >> she has seen. >> an amazing run this oscar. >> season. >> even as the film. >> itself has hit some. >> controversy over its star and some. >> tweets made. >> in the past. >> i think this again, this one is going to happen. >> yeah. let me just ask you quickly, though, about that controversy, not the specifics. a lot of us have read about it, but do you think this is about the only thing that amelia perez is going to pick up, or do you think it has a chance at others? >> you know, it's really hard to. >> tell because. >> it did really. >> well overseas. >> and surprisingly. >> got some awards there. so
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again. >> i would say more than ever. >> alex, this oscars and you and i have talked about this year after year. >> this one is. >> really uncertain. it's a lot of rolling the dice here. so wherever academy voters are going. >> whenever they vote. >> because remember, voting ended a few weeks ago whenever they actually voted, it might have been before some of these controversies started hitting or started landing with people. it's really hard to play out, especially with a very complicated voting system. so i'm giving you predictions. don't bet the farm. >> on them. >> oh come on, we've all got tons of money on it. all right, let's move on to best actor. who do you pick? >> oh, i. >> think it's going to be very much the brutalist adrien brody. his second oscar. an amazing film. brutally long, i might. >> add. >> but very timely. also for the trump 2.0 reign of error we're living in right now. having said that. >> i also. >> kind of think it would be nice to see if sebastian stan won for the apprentice, which had a rocky road getting to the oscars. but his portrayal of, i guess, the origin story of our freedom hating and democracy slamming president is getting a
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lot of award. and you know what? and this is actually a very, very interesting film. and i don't just say that to appeal to the maga crowd. there are parts of the maga crowd that will actually quite like the apprentice. >> yeah, i know i saw it, and we should say for anybody who who hasn't seen it, it goes well before any sort of political action that donald trump ever had. it is, to your point, the origin story. and it's very, very fascinating. but let's talk about best actress. i know who you're going to say, and i think that one's a lock, right? >> i mean, i'm going to say demi moore because i think we've seen a lot of love towards her. i mean, honestly, in my opinion, this is amazing because why didn't she receive an oscar nomination for a few good men years and years ago? but this is her oscar nomination. i think this is her year. look, mikey madsen is a lot of people also think that was a very strong performance. but i think it's demi moore all the way. >> okay, so then who's going to win best director and will that predict the best picture winner.
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because that one goes before best picture. >> you see i really think again, and i hate to sound like the broken record this time, and i know i usually come a little bit more snazzy and creepiness, but i think it's a real throw up here. i think it's going to be the brutalists director is going to win. brad corbett i really think there's a good chance there. i think that he has shown himself, again, looking at precedent, because this is such a fluid year. i think the awards that he's taking home, i think his speech at the golden globes, i think that carries some weight with oscar winners, oscar voters. and i also think the very nature of this film carries weight with oscar voters, even though i have to say i'm amazed most of them made it all the way through. >> yeah, i have two more questions so quickly. let's get to best picture. not that it doesn't deserve the big drumroll, but who's who's going to get that one? >> well, let me ask you. i feel this one is a is a bit of a toss up. and sometimes public events are playing a role in this. now, i did say earlier, oscar voting has long since stopped or a few weeks ago, but conclave about the death of a pope and the
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election of a new pope and what that process is god, does it seem to be right on the money right now, even though, thank god pope francis is health seems to be improving? >> yes, he is improving, but that's something people have been making that observation. give me give me a quick sense. do you expect any surprises at the ceremony tonight? >> well, i think i expect some short surprises on stage as well. or at least in the crowd. as deadline just exclusively reported, former vice president kamala harris is likely to be in attendance, which is one of the reasons we learned for the even greater than usual security lockdown that we're seeing all around the dolby theater, so that is a pretty big surprise. having said that, the former vice president has been out on the award circuit. she was at the naacp image awards last year, where last week, where she got the chairman's award and she was at. and it was even harder to get in than the oscars. was caa boss brian lord's private party last night, and she was there, and she's going to be at the oscars today, we hear. >> okay, well, we thank you for
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