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it's not technically a state. >> of the. >> union, and it comes at a moment of considerable disunion. after six weeks of controversial and confrontational moves from this new white house. america's allies in europe are now considering ways to go it alone in their defense of ukraine. after a meeting between trump and zelensky dissolved into a shouting match on friday. and federal workers who make up. >> the. >> backbone of our government are gearing up for another week of chaos as the world's richest man, elon musk, is allowed to tinker and toy with their jobs without any accountability or oversight. americans will be tuning in on tuesday, seeking an explanation for how trump's radical actions will deliver on his promises to reduce inflation, create jobs and make the world a safer place. the

question is whether he will offer up some answers or just a lot of hot air. joining me now is democratic texas congressman sylvester turner. he is the former mayor of houston, texas. thank you for being here. congressman, thanks. >> for having me. reverend sharpton, it's. >> good to be with you. now. >> on tuesday. >> you will attend your first joint address to congress as a elected member. what kind of tone are you expecting from president trump? >> more of the same. >> i think he's already set. >> the tone. >> very aggressive. hostile towards federal workers. >> diversity. equity and inclusion. primarily, i. >> expected him to talk a lot. about tax breaks for. those who are wealthy billionaires, but

not so much. about what he can do for working men and women. and people who are just sacrificing every day. you know, he talked. >> about. >> inflation and he talked about bringing down the cost of living during the campaign. but what we have seen, inflation has gone up. cost of. eggs gone up, milk, bread. and nothing he has done nothing to address those issues to the contrary. you mentioned the state of the union. i will put it in one word. state of the union is fragile. >> wow. >> well, you. >> you are sitting in the seat. sheila jackson lee had sat in for so long, and you were mayor at the time, so you certainly have a view of these issues from texas, where a lot of these issues are absolutely front and center. yesterday, the pentagon announced that about 3000 more active duty troops will be sent

to the us mexico border, bringing the total number around 9000. they will be bringing along armored attack vehicles like the ones used in iraq, as well as a helicopter battalion. do you think this strategy is an effective and appropriate use of our armed forces? no. >> it is not. i do think it's effective if you're trying to put on a show. a lot of splash, a production. you can get that. but in terms of utilizing our military forces and placing them on the border, i do not see the utilitarian value of that. even under president biden, those numbers were starting to go down, not up. they were going down. so this is just a continuation thereof. and but if you if you want to put a production on, if you want to go

and round up immigrants and put them on a military plane rather than a commercial airliner, you can do that. you'll get the splash. but it's costing people even more. >> now, health officials in texas are dealing with a measles outbreak that has infected over 100 people and killed one unvaccinated child. health secretary robert f kennedy jr caused controversy at last week's cabinet meeting when he suggested the outbreak was not unusual, though he has since backtracked and insisted fighting measles is a top priority. are you confident that this administration is up to the task of dealing with a public health crisis? >> i am absolutely not confident. look, i was mayor when we dealt with the coronavirus, and president trump and his administration were in

office. the numbers kept going up a great deal of confusion. in fact, it was states and cities that stepped in and took the lead. it was not until president biden came in that we had some comprehensible, sensible policy. even when we're dealing with measles. the secretary kennedy has yet to say the people the effective way to deal with measles is to get the vaccine. he hasn't said that yet, and that's proven science. and in 2000, in this country, we were supposed to be measles free. and now in texas, over 120 cases. wow. as you mentioned, one person has died and two. and in the paper today, what they are saying, the medical professionals, is that this situation is not going to be over anytime soon. and yet, the person of health and human services, kennedy, has yet to

say the most effective way to deal with this subject matter is to get a vaccine. how difficult is that? >> it seems difficult for them. but let me ask you this. finally, congressman, your republican colleagues on oversight committee are planning to call the mayors of several large sanctuary cities to capitol hill this wednesday. some democrats are concerned the gop are planning showy attacks on the mayor's, patterned after the hearings targeting ivy league presidents in 2023. you were mayor of houston for eight years, which is not a sanctuary city, but you certainly have experience with dealing with republican attacks. what's your advice to these mayors as they prepare to testify? >> don't go for the okey doke. don't fall for it. they are not calling you there to highlight the positivity of the positive

things you are doing in your city. they're not. they're not bringing you there for you to say we are a welcoming city and that we're just following the laws of the state, of, of our state, or even our country. this is an attack. they want to do everything they can to put a negative spin on it. and again, it's more about a production than trying to do anything as it relates to immigrants and the diversity within our city. they've already said when it comes to diversity, equity and inclusion, they don't want it. they don't want it. so they don't want immigrants. they don't want people from the lgbt community. they don't want african americans. they don't want hispanics. this is a continuation thereof. so be very careful what you do. stand up for your city. there's nothing wrong with being a welcoming city, but don't fall for the

okey doke. this is a setup. >> don't fall for the okey doke. all right, i'll leave it there. thank you, congressman sylvester turner. we're looking ahead to president trump's joint address to congress. special msnbc coverage begins at 6 p.m. tuesday. joining me now to talk about it is my political panel, former alabama senator doug jones, a democrat, and former illinois congressman joe walsh, a republican. joe, the associated press looked back at trump's first joint address to congress in 2017. in that speech, trump declared his strong support for nato and free trade, and he vowed to protect the environment, women's health and civil rights. it is clear that trump has changed dramatically. do you think the country has also changed? >> i know that. >> my former political party. >> has changed. look, i'm not a

democrat, but. >> this. >> is in a state of the union. >> these are. >> unprecedented times. we have a president of the united states. >> who's actually siding with. >> putin in. >> this great fight. you know, the free world freedom, democracy in ukraine and nato. we're on the other side, al. >> donald trump. >> is siding with putin. you combine that with the fact that. >> he and. >> elon musk have been engaging. >> in a month and a half. >> of unconstitutional activity. i'm not. >> a. >> democrat, but i. >> sure as hell. wouldn't sit in that chamber. tuesday night. i wouldn't go. >> to the speech. >> this is. an unprecedented time. he is an unprecedented threat. democrats need to recognize. >> this, doug. >> normally, a new president would look for points of unity in the first major speech of his term. but so far, trump hasn't shown many signs of reaching across the aisles this time around. do you foresee any

bipartisanship in this address? >> i think it's going to be. >> unlikely, rev. >> i just don't see it. i think he. >> is emboldened. >> by anyone that. insists that he has an overwhelming. >> landslide mandate. >> with the narrow. >> victory that he won. i don't think he's. >> looking, and. >> i don't think. >> there has been anything. >> to demonstrate. >> in his first month in office that he is looking to find. >> common ground, that he is looking to work. >> with anyone. in fact, his executive orders would say just the opposite that he's going to ignore congress. he's going to. >> try to roll over democrats. >> that is what i expect to see. >> and who knows what he'll. >> actually say, because. >> he cannot really give. much of. >> an address or much of a speech without. >> really filling it full of misinformation. >> and falsehoods. so i think the mayor just before us was was correct. we're just going to see more. >> of. >> the. >> same on a big stage in front of a congressional audience.

>> now i want to shift to global affairs. trump ran his campaign on being a peacemaker, but in recent days, the world seems to have gotten more dangerous. the world is still trying to gauge the impact of the president's testy meeting with ukrainian president zelensky on friday, but it seems certain to complicate peace talks between ukraine and russia and in the middle east. hamas refused to extend the first phase of the fragile ceasefire deal. three weeks after trump met with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and openly mused about a us takeover of gaza. doug, how would this address and how would you assess the foreign policy of the of trump's second term thus far? >> thus far. i called it peace through weakness. he seems to be exuding weakness of the united

states of america. >> playing and. >> giving the putin. talking points, the russian. talking points. >> all of. >> the things that that are. counter to 80 years worth of america being being the moral leader of the world, being in the freedom leader of the world. we're just not we're not seeing that in this president. we're not seeing that in this administration. and he wants to appease russia. he wants to appease other dictators. and what i think he fails to realize is that the strength of america has been not only our military, but through our alliances. and we are losing those alliances rapidly with donald trump. >> joe, until recently, many republicans openly back ukraine in its war with russia and establishing an american foothold in gaza. sounds exactly like the kind of nation building project republicans used to criticize. why has the party capitulated so fully to trump's view of the world?

>> because they're. >> scared to death. >> of donald trump, and now they're. >> scared to death. >> of elon musk. i mean, it was bad enough. look, this is trump's party. he owns the voters of this party. but on top of that, now you've got the wealthiest guy on the. planet who is threatening to primary any republican who stands up and steps out against trump. look, again, i know i'm a broken record. >> we've never been here. >> everything the senator just said is right. >> the president of. >> the united. >> states is. >> standing with vladimir putin, and the entire republican party is going to keep quiet and allow. >> that to happen. >> all right. i'm going to have to leave it there. thanks to both of you, doug. former senator doug jones of alabama. and i may see you next week. i'm going to be in selma for the 60th anniversary for the voting rights act. march across the

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he's joining us now live here in studio. congressman, thanks for coming on the show tonight. you will deliver the spanish language response to president trump's joint address on tuesday. what are you hoping to hear from the president and what do you actually expect to hear from him? well, first and foremost, reverend, i'm glad that we're doing it in spanish as well. there's a big contingency out there in the country, throughout the country that also wants to be heard. and so i'm glad to have been chosen that that voice for that, that group of people. but let's see what he brings to the table. but i'm not optimistic. i think he will throw a red meat at his base. he will continue to be aggressive, as he was at the white house with president zelensky. he will continue to try to push his very aggressive agenda. and of course, you know he will be beholden to elon musk. what are you going to say in response? what are you going to react to? whichever, whatever way he goes in his speech? well,

this is a telenovela. this is like a soap opera between him and elon musk. but while people are paying attention to the telenovela, reverend, a lot of nasty executive orders are being introduced, many of which are being obviously challenged. proposed cuts for programs like medicaid and medicare and food stamps. these are the things that are happening behind the scenes, and we're getting sidetracked into the soap box, into the soap opera, and forgetting that in in the meantime, he's bringing forward very aggressive public policies and agendas, legislative agenda and budget agendas that will hurt our communities in dramatic ways. i have to point out the irony. you'll be delivering the spanish response to president trump's speech this weekend. he signed an executive order declaring english the official language. for nearly 250 years, this country hasn't needed an official language at a federal level. why is trump doing this,

you think? very strange. everybody knows that we speak english here in america, but i think it would be kind of nice if kids in our schools could learn other languages and be competitive with kids in europe and in asia that are really moving forward in a multi-language approach to learning. so to dig yourself in and make believe that we're the only ones in the planet is not just not smart, it leads to a position where we're not going to be competitive with the rest of the world. let's make sure our kids are proficient in other languages. you know, the world is one world. technology has brought us together, and it's a big mistake to sort of like, dig your head in the sand and make believe that that english is the only language on the planet. you chair the hispanic caucus. trump received a record share of latino votes for a republican candidate last year. now those voters are seeing trump is not focused on lowering inflation. he's doing tariffs. his administration isn't only

deporting criminals, they are targeting children. they want to separate families. what can democrats offer who are feeling betrayed by this white house? well, let me tell you a rude awakening for many of those voters as they see that the price of eggs are going up. you know, 93% that other goods, emergency goods, pampers, milk and other things that people go down to the local bodega to get are shooting up. so his rhetoric that he would fix the economy on day one has collapsed. but on top of that, he's putting forward an agenda that will cut medicaid and medicare, vital programs, health care programs for our communities. 524,000 residents in my district alone will be impacted by these cuts. in medicare, 108,000 medicare patients and over 200,000 households that get food stamps. so that's the bottom line.

forget the soap opera between him and musk. he is cutting to the bone, and these folks are now realizing they made a big mistake. i'm out of time. but i have to ask you this congressman, former new york governor andrew cuomo announced yesterday he's running for mayor of new york city, adding a new wrinkle into a complex situation with current mayor eric adams trying to avoid corruption charges and president trump trying to impose his political will on the city. on the city. what's your take on all this? well, i'm going to put together a coalition of leaders, clergy, business leaders, elected officials, community activists, and we're going to listen to all of them. let's listen to all of the candidates, and let's come together and make a collective decision as to who we think should be the next leader or the current leader of this great city. do you think the fact that he has, he being trump has talked about just letting ice go

loose and breaking in folks homes, taking family members? some people here, legal citizens have been swept up in this. do you think that that is a concern when you get everybody together in new york? because the mayor seems to say he's going to work with them. homan got on television and said, if you don't. and he made a insulting remark. are you concerned about ice and the aggressive way president trump has been talking about people that are legally here, but could be caught up in this very concerned. this last week i met with leader jeffries and a family man that was a u.s. citizen, both him and his wife. he was stopped on his way to work and questioned for several hours. although he showed a federal i.d, he had his federal id and he was stopped in question and interrogated. he shaken up. he doesn't want to go

back to work. this is happening in america. it's not just violent immigrants that have committed a crime in the past that went to trial, got convicted, and then are deported. this is about u.s. citizens that are being stopped, searched and question. so it's a big concern that this sends out a chilling effect that will hurt the local economy. small businesses will be hurt, and i think it will provide a negative approach that will keep people in the shadows, as opposed to making them be productive members of society. yeah, i'm still trying to figure out. he said, we don't have a room in the country for immigrants from latin america and mexico and haiti. but then he said to whites in south africa, because there's a bill there to deal with whites that had taken land under apartheid. he said they are welcome. those whites from south africa, they're welcome here as refugees. seems like he can find room when he wants to. well, definitely. there's

profiling going on. this young man that i met felt very strongly that he was profiled. and in fact, a local police officer was able to help him out and instruct the ice agent that, in fact, this guy was a citizen and he was late to work. so this is what's happening in america. i think they're ramping it up, and i'm very concerned about that. congressman adriano espaillat, thank you for being. thank you. coming up, hollywood will celebrate its brightest stars tonight at the oscars. but there are new questions about the movie industry's commitment to diversity. that's ahead in this week's rise up. and later. >> not just here for. >> the moment. we're here for a moment. >> we cannot rest. >> i'm about to do. >> something of substance. >> we cannot. >> win racial. justice in the dark. >> a new docu series examines the civil rights fight, as trump 2.0 takes office. we'll speak with the executive producer. with the executive producer. later on.

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nation. the fight for civil rights continues to be of utmost importance in the era of trump 2.0. a new hbo documentary is highlighting people and communities who continue to fight for equity and racial justice. in the years since the birth of the american civil rights movement. it's called eyes on the prize, part three. we are part three. we who believe in freedom cannot rest and is streaming now on max. take a look. >> oh, freedom. >> as a child. >> i watched. the civil. >> rights movement. >> on television. >> all those. >> struggles that were in the 60s, they still today. >> if we unify, we would create a domino effect for peace. >> we're not just here. >> for the moment. we're here for a movement. >> we cannot rest. >> i'm about to do something. >> of substance. >> we cannot.

>> win racial. justice in the dark. >> joining me now is dawn porter, the executive director of eyes on the prize. dawn, talk to us about the overall concept of the documentary. why should people watch it? >> thank you so much. >> once again for having me. rev, i really appreciate you and all the work you do. you know, we named the series which is six hours on hbo. we believe in freedom, cannot rest. when we finish this back in 2022. we could not understand the crisis that we would be in today. i think many of us think our democracy is unrecognizable. and so each of these hours tells the story of ordinary americans, of all backgrounds, of all faiths, that are standing up and doing the work of justice, inclusion and equity. today, you know, i

made a film about john lewis, and he would always say, there's always something you can do. and i hope that this series helps to emphasize that for people, we are not powerless. we are not going to shut up. we are not going to sit down unless we are peacefully protesting. and there's a lot of work to do. but we're we're here to do it. >> and i've seen some of the series and, and i think it's important that people understand the vastness of it. i in full disclosure, i'm in two of the episodes. but given what we're seeing in the trump administration and the erosion of the hard earned rights from the civil rights era, what is this document? what is this documentary important? why now? and what makes it relevant today? >> the topics that we cover in this series include affirmative action, book banning,

environmental racism, political protest, everything that you can think of that we are facing right now, and the importance of eyes and the reason why you are in two of the episodes is because we needed that look back. we needed that history told at a time when people are trying to literally force the untelling of the actual american history story. series like this. we remain remind us that this is never going to be forgotten. we are closer now to 1968 than to 1988. and that is what this series will tell you. we are facing a visionary attempt to resegregate or eliminate minorities and women, and we are not going to let that happen. >> i want to play a clip from the documentary. it's from episode three that tells the behind the scenes story of the million man march in washington,

dc in 1995. take a look. when i was going to the stage, my cell phone rang and it was james brown, and james brown said to me, reverend, you at the million man march. i said, yeah, he said, you going to speak? i said, yeah. he said, two things don't embarrass us, son. and tell them that they're destroying those of us that kept black men going. talk about the relevance of black men today and their political power after after how we saw them being courted so heavily in the last election by the trump folks. >> you know, grifters going to grift, liars going to lie. and one of the things we remember from the million man march, which my husband attended that day, is that we cannot let the oppressor define the

conversation. that is why i use the word, the full phrase diversity, equity, inclusion. what about that is frightening to you? so this story of the million man march, which has not really been previously told. told over the over years, people have forgotten black men were vilified. they were called predators. they were called all these terrible names. and that image came to dominate what people thought of black men and boys like my husband and children. and so that day, the narrative was taken back. and that was thanks to brave leadership by you, by so many people who were worried about what a gathering would be like, like this. and i can tell you, it was one of the most peaceful, beautiful days in washington. it lifted a lot of men and women and all people up. and that's the energy that we need to bring to today. we, mister lewis would say, never let them make you be

bitter or angry because that's when they take your power. so don't be bitter. be strong. >> and i concur with how you described it was a day of enormous impact spiritually, and we didn't all agree. but minister farrakhan, who called the march, said even those that may not agree with me on various issues, we all come together and speak. and we did. in the last block, i mentioned how the 2025 ucla hollywood diversity report finds the share of people of color working in key entertainment roles has dropped, and that hollywood in general is backsliding on its commitment to diversity. even though films with more diverse cast perform better at the box office. as the documentary filmmaker, what are your thoughts about this trend and the future of projects like this one? if this continues? >> this is why it's the series is so aptly named eyes on the

prize. do not be distracted by trinkets or by giving out small favors to a select few. we all need to be working. the talent is there, the audience is there, and so we're not going to let other people define success. we might have to work a little harder. we might have to work a little smarter. that is always what we have had to do. our remit has not changed. so i'm keeping my eyes on the prize. i'm looking out for the people coming before me, but coming after me. and you know, i'm just going to stand in my joy. >> this series, the six episodes cover the events until the year of 2015. if you had to envision the imaginary new episode, what would it be? from 2015 to today? what would it be about? >> i think i'm hoping that we're going to be able to call it we rise, we rose, we stood up. we did not let our four mothers and

four fathers and four ancestors. we did not let them down. we did not let our children down. you know, it's often said that we are our parents wildest dreams. i want, you know, i want for my kids the same kinds of opportunities that i had to go out and earn. but there was a there was a path. so i hope it's going to be we rise. >> and one of the things that struck me about what i've seen on eyes of the prize is the parts that i've seen in the documentary is how you were very honest about there were different roads that people took. and in even in the 60s, you had doctor king and malcolm x and thurgood marshall and dorothy height. and in the later years, up until now, you have those of us that may walk down different paths, but it's the same road trying to get something established. and i think it was wonderful how you

put that out there and was honest about that. there were snick was formed because they felt doctor king was the old guard, and he never made it to 40 years old. these are not new contradictions, but it is something we need to put out there and let people see it. as long as we're moving in the right direction. >> it is the epitome of there is strength in diversity, diversity of opinion, diversity of thought, diversity of action. we are not each other's enemy. and so when we literally keep our eyes on the prize, we are very, very effective. and that is what is so frightening to so many people. so we can't do that. we can't take our eyes off the prize. there is no time to wait. >> well thank you. dawn porter, the hbo original six part documentary series eyes on the prize three. we would believe in. we who believe in freedom cannot rest. it's available now. stream now on max. up next, my

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