vity is a big part of my boys' lives. it brings people together in meaningful ways. >> talk about tonight. there is. >> so much. to cover. we also see voters. >> imploring democrats and you specifically to. >> fight harder. what can. >> you tell voters tonight who say you could be doing more than you're doing? >> can you tell us what's. >> going on in the senate right now? do you know what the dodge group was trying. >> to access. >> at social security that would have caused the administrator to resign? right now, in our time today, the unpopularity of what they're doing really does create real political pressure at the source to stop it, to at least slow him down. >> it is good to be back with you on this second hour of chris

jansing reports at this hour. standing down. secretary of defense. pete hegseth suspends cyber operations and information operations against russia. the implications coming up and the $2.8 billion boost. the massive show of support pouring in from europe for ukraine right now, after the white house blowup between president trump and ukrainian president zelensky. the latest on the path to peace with russia. also, rfk junior's measles message. trump's health and human services secretary now encouraging parents to vaccinate their children amid the deadly and growing outbreak. after spending years questioning and even mocking the vaccine, is it too little, too late? plus guilty. the suspect in the horrific highland park mass shooting today, changing his plea just minutes before opening statements were set to begin. we'll take you inside the courtroom. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments, and we start with british prime minister keir starmer just

announcing major support for ukraine. days after president trump berated the ukrainian leader in the oval office. i want to bring in chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell. andrea, prime minister starmer spoke with president trump. i know on saturday. is the possibility of a peace deal that has u.s. support still on the table? >> it's not really on the table as far as the white house is concerned. we had a really tough statement. the truth social statement from the president just within the last hour. but the europeans and led by the u.k. prime minister trying so hard to put something together. as you see the president reacting very angrily to another statement by zelenskyy at that meeting with the europeans, who was basically saying that they can't stop fighting as long as russia is attacking them and they can't trust vladimir putin because he has violated previous peace deals and cease fire

deals. so that was his basic posture in the oval office. and of course, that contributed to the blowup. you could argue that he was not as diplomatic as he might have been, but he is a wartime leader, being, you know, accused by the vice president of the united states and then by the president of not being supportive of enough of vladimir putin. from his perspective, putin invaded putin, as he pointed out, took 20,000 children, kidnaped 20,000 children, renamed them, tried to give them russian identities, put them with russian families. they want these kids back. the war crimes, all the rest of that. so that was the basic problem. starmer now standing up and trying, bringing together all the european leaders, offering $2.8 billion. and this is part of what starmer had to say in explaining that they're trying to bring the u.s. and ukraine back together. >> nobody wanted to see what happened. last friday.

>> but i do. >> not accept that the us. >> is an unreliable ally. the us has been a reliable. >> ally to the uk. >> for many, many. >> decades and continues to be. >> the discussions. >> we have had. >> today. >> particularly the coalition of. >> the. >> willing. >> is on the basis that this. >> is a plan that we will work with. >> with the. us and. >> that it will have us backing. >> now, the british are hoping that this show of support, financial support and military support for ukraine will help mollify the situation. and obviously they're trying to get zelenskyy into a better place. but the bottom line is unfortunately for ukraine, which was hammered overnight again by russia, the air defenses that the us have, the, you know, the satellite technology providing intelligence from starlink, by the way, elon musk's starlink that has been critical to their defenses against vladimir putin.

and this onslaught cannot be replaced by europe. so there are a lot of things that europe can do. they're putting soldiers in place, they say, but they cannot replace the critical technology and intelligence that the us can offer. >> andrea mitchell thank you. and now to defense secretary hegseth, order to call off cyber operations against russia. nbc's courtney kube has been looking into it for us. explain what we know about this order, courtney, and what it's supposed to accomplish. >> yeah, so we don't know a whole lot about it, frankly, chris. and that's generally the. >> case when you're talking about any kind of an offensive cyber operations. in fact, the military hasn't even acknowledged that they do offensive cyber operations until just the past few years. but in this case, what we are told, according to a u.s. official who is familiar with this planning, is that secretary of defense pete hegseth, late last month, late in february ordered u.s. cyber command to pause or halt. all offensive cyber operations

and information operations against russia. now, of course, this comes as we were just hearing from andrea, as the u.s. is deeply engaged in this negotiations or attempts to negotiate between russia and ukraine for some sort of a peace deal and the war in ukraine. but according to this official, this all this order to halt these cyber operations actually became, actually was instituted before friday's meeting in the white house, in the oval office between volodymyr zelenskyy and president trump and vice president j.d. vance. so the big the big question now, chris, is how long is this going to be in place and exactly why. now, there have been cases in the past where the united states or someone is involved in a negotiation and they will halt or cease some sort of offensive operations during that negotiation, but it's not really clear if that's what's actually happening here or not. in fact, there are some officials who are concerned about the fact that the u.s. should be gathering

even more on russia, or should be even conducting more offensive operations and information operations against russia throughout these negotiations. >> chris courtney kuby, thank you. health and human services secretary robert f kennedy jr is changing his stance on the measles vaccine. but after years as a vaccine denier, is it enough? nbc's vaughn hillyard is following that story for us. what exactly is rfk jr saying now? >> right. there is pressure on the health and human services department under secretary robert f kennedy jr. over the course of the last month, at least 146 children, mostly unvaccinated children in west texas, have contracted the measles. this outbreak has led to a push publicly to have children be vaccinated for the mmr vaccine. and that went as far as last night in an op ed. the secretary kennedy himself penning a declarative statement urging parents to seriously look

at and vaccinate their children with the mmr vaccine, writing in part that, quote, parents play a pivotal role in safeguarding their children's health. all parents should consult with their health care providers to understand their options to get the mmr vaccine. the decision to vaccinate is a personal one. vaccines not only protect individual children from measles, but also contribute to community immunity, protecting those who are unable to be vaccinated due to medical reasons. now, just four years ago, it was robert f kennedy jr. who suggested publicly as a means of undermining the mmr vaccine credibility, told the gathering that he was speaking in front of that vitamin a and chicken soup was the cure to measles. of course, back in 2019, he faced much backlash after going to the islands of samoa, where, along with other anti-vax activists urged against the vaccination of children, and by year's end there were 83 children that had died of

measles. and so for secretary kennedy in this op ed directly urging parents to vaccinate their kids with the mmr vaccine is notable. we should note in that same op ed, though, throughout it there were suggestions that have often echoed anti-vax rhetoric, for instance, suggesting that measles is best cured by sanitation and by a nutritious diet. effectively undermining the importance of the vaccine. yet, notably, during his confirmation hearings, he said that he would not seek to remove any vaccines from the market. and so far here, this is a notable step for secretary kennedy, a longtime anti-vax activist, to urgently, as this outbreak in west texas is ongoing, telling parents that they should vaccinate their kids with the mmr vaccine. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you. now to the surprising twist at the trial of the man accused in the 2022 mass shooting in highland park, illinois, at their 4th of july parade. nbc's

shaquille brewster is outside the courthouse for us. shaq. what happened? >> well. >> chris robert crimo the third pleaded guilty to 69 counts of first degree murder and attempted murder that he was facing for that 2022 highland park 4th of july parade shooting. this was a day that was supposed to begin with opening statements. we t e jury was going to be sworn in. instead, his defense attorney said that he was changing his plea and prosecutors after the court hearing, saying that this was not a plea deal. this was crimo deciding to change his plea on his own. i talked to a survivor of that shooting after the hearing. listen to a little bit of what she told me about what it was like to be inside that courtroom as this happened. what was it like being in court when the defendant changed his plea? >> it was stunning. >> and i think everybody. >> just had a huge. >> sense of collective relief. >> a trial. >> is going to be really long and really painful for everybody. so relief that a plea

means that we don't have to go through trial. >> do you feel like you have closure now? >> i think i think this. is this is as good as we're going to get for closure. >> seven people were killed and 48 others were injured in that shooting. the prosecution was suggesting that most of those people who were injured were going to be taking the stand to testify. this now helps give them some relief, so they won't have to go through that and retraumatize themselves, so to speak. we can expect to see robert crimo the third, sentenced on april 23rd. he's facing the maximum penalty that one can face in the state of illinois. it's life in prison without the possibility of parole. chris. >> shaquille brewster. thank you. in 90s, the latest in a string of protests fighting for fired federal workers. how democrats are trying to capitalize on both the frustration and the fury. >> this is. >> an illegal. operation that is. >> putting the. >> people of the united states

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democratic lawmakers are bringing fired federal workers as their guests of honor. joining us now, nbc's julie reporting on capitol hill. joel payne, democratic strategist and former press secretary for senate majority leader harry reid. brendan buck is former aide to house speaker john boehner and paul ryan, and then msnbc political analyst. so, julie, how are the impacts of trump's second term shaping the democrats message? >> well, for. >> starters, chris, i think it's important to remember that all democrats. >> can really do in the minority is message around these issues. >> and that's exactly. >> what they're doing. >> you mentioned that a number. >> of them are going to. >> attend that joint address tomorrow. >> they're going. >> to have guests. seated around the perimeter of the capitol. >> of course, the. >> house chamber, where. >> donald trump. >> will be delivering. >> his first speech as. >> president to. >> both sides. >> of the aisle. >> to both. >> sides of. >> the capitol here. >> and you're going to see in the stands fired workers from different federal agencies. for example, brad schneider, a congressman of illinois, is bringing a 20 year army veteran who was laid off from the va

during these cuts that elon musk's doge has been doing over the last month and a half. you're also going to see those impacted potentially by any cuts to snap benefits and medicare and social security. democrats also today highlighting that issue later today, as the social security administration apparently is gearing up for layoffs. there, you're going to see schumer and murray holding that press conference later today, but somebody who is not going to be in attendance tomorrow at that joint address is senator chris murphy, a democrat from connecticut who's really just been everywhere, spending more on social media platforms in the month of february than in the last five years combined. this is somebody who spent his senate career focused on bipartisan deal making. he was out in front on trying to strengthen gun laws, immigration dealings that we've covered last year. this time, though, he's putting all of his energy and all of his focus into standing up as he says it, to the billionaire class and to trump. take a listen to what he told me in our exclusive interview last week. >> this may look a little

schizophrenic, having gone from. spending two. >> years. >> you know, writing. >> big bipartisan deals. >> on guns or on immigration. >> to now. >> you know, being. >> out front. >> in trying to fight for the survival of the democracy and using. >> really. >> tough language. >> about my. republican colleagues. >> but i. >> think. >> you know, when somebody is trying to grab. >> power. >> when somebody is trying to destroy democracy, they benefit from people who are. >> static, who. >> refuse to be nimble. i mean, every democrat could just continue to run in the same direction they've been running for the ten years, last. ten years. or you could realize that this moment is different, that this threat is unique. >> there's a desire from voters in the democratic party to see their elected representatives out in front and loud on this issue. he didn't name names, but i certainly asked him, why is the rank and file senator from connecticut the one so out in front, so loud at a time where maybe leadership leader schumer, leader jeffries should be doing the same thing he said as he said, as murphy said there in

that interview, that they don't benefit from sort of the status quo. they have to be out in front. he did say the party was a big tent, but certainly they're trying to copy a little bit of what trump was so successful in doing and trying to get these other people in this populist message to vote and hold up the party. he's trying to bring those voters back to the democratic party after those stunning losses that we saw in 2024. chris. >> thanks so much for that. joel. we just got a press release from chuck schumer, and he's one of the folks who has some invited as his guests, some people who were fired. one of them is a disabled army veteran. she was receiving disability but wanted to work, so she was working at the buffalo va, helping fellow veterans obtain her benefits. benefits. she was fired. a usda worker who was fired from her job helping farmers in business people through the rural development office. a number of people who are medicaid recipients, including one home health care worker. what a democrat's guess. tell us about the message they

want to send, the image they want to project. >> well. >> chris. >> it's. >> about real. >> impact, right? >> individuals who are not. >> amorphous, federal workers who are a part of the blob. in washington. >> dc. >> but people who you might go to church or synagogue with, people whose. >> kids you. >> go to school, go to school with your kids. >> these are real. >> folks who are counting on jobs here. >> they're federal. >> workers, but they're workers. >> and what donald trump and elon musk and republicans are doing. it seems like. is creating an entire class of unemployed americans who are unemployed for really no reason other than the fact that donald trump and elon musk feel like it's time to take a hatchet to the federal budget and not do it strategically. also, beyond what democrats are doing here, chris, in terms of the storytelling, i think it's important the impact that's being felt in republican areas, republican districts like jen kiggans, congresswoman of virginia, tom cole, congressman of oklahoma, these are places that have high propensities of federal workers as well. so this is not just a story that's just told in the corridors of

washington, d.c, or in blue states across the country. it's really impact that's felt all over the country. i think democrats are going to underscore that. >> this week. >> and there are increasingly people who talk to us, brendan, who say, you know, i was never political. i'm a federal worker. and then suddenly changed. there was a worker from health resources and services administration who told nbc this what they've done is that they've radicalized me. what they've done is they've taken someone who would have willingly served under their administration to help all of the american people, and what they've done is they've made me think that they want to destroy the republic. they want to destroy democracy. so now i am activated. could these kinds of folks, you know, kind of come together, form a critical mass that pushes congress to push back against trump and elon musk? how do you see this playing out? >> well, i think. >> that could happen. >> if this is not a washington focused debate. >> and i. >> think democrats are making an effort to make the point that

most federal workers. >> don't live in. >> washington. >> d.c. and that's the starting point for most people's perception of this. and i. >> think there. >> is probably an audience. what elon musk has been able to do is play to that, that washington is broken. so someone clearly has to come in and break it and to fix it. what they're missing in that entirely, of course, is that there. >> are people. >> all across the country, in communities that have nothing to do with washington, and i think that can change the perception of what's going on there, giving democrats all kinds of, of material to work with here. at the same time, i'm not so sure that this is the issue where they're going to find their their sea legs. i think that they can probably fight this back to a draw. medicaid, deep spending cuts that affect people's services are probably much more potent for people. but i think that perhaps the best chance they have here is no president has ever really succeeded running on how many jobs they've cut. and that seems to be all donald trump has been

talking about recently as it relates to the economy, is these job cuts. so the providing them an opening. and i don't fault democrats for trying to step into it and fight back. but i do think that they need to be careful of stepping into a trap where they're not seen as defending washington, defending bureaucracy. it's going to take a lot of hard work, i think, to change that narrative. >> so freshman senator elissa slotkin, joel is going to give the democratic response. as you know, she's a moderate from michigan, a state that trump won. but a detroit news analysis found that she outperformed kamala harris in most of the state's counties. so what does she do if there is an opening? what should be the message? >> well, first, chris. godspeed to. >> senator slotkin. >> this is the most unenviable, unenviable of jobs. i'm sure burton would agree. >> absolutely thankless. >> absolutely thankless, because no one everyone is going to kowtow on a stage next to the president delivering address to the country in front of congress. that said, elissa slotkin is a great storyteller. she can tell a story from a state in the middle of the country that chose a democratic

candidate, a state where kamala harris didn't perform well, but find a message that worked with a large population of working class folks in that state. not just by the way this term is a senate candidate, but previously as someone who was a member of congress, someone who has a history as a member of the armed forces as well. and so i think that democrats are looking for the right messengers and the right storytellers to find that message. senator slotkin is certainly a good option, but i would manage expectations on what anyone can do on a stage next to the president. >> joel payne and brendan buck, please stick around. and coming up on chris jansing reports from pariah to ally, why the kremlin now sees some overlap with the white house. plus what we know about a deadly suspected car ramming incident in germany today, not even three weeks after the attack in munich. >> can you tell? i'm sure you're wondering why. >> your mother and i. >> asked. >> you. >> here tonight. >> it's because it's. >> a buffet of all you can eat.

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after years of isolation for the illegal invasion of ukraine, russia now says it has a new friend on the world stage. the trump administration. the kremlin spokesperson says this white house has, quote, changed all foreign policy configurations and largely aligned with moscow's vision. joining me now is david ignatius, washington post foreign affairs columnist and an msnbc contributor. donald trump says, david, that he wants peace. then, after volodymyr zelenskyy said earlier today that the end of the war was far away. he wrote america will not put up for this much longer. probably not a great statement to have been made in terms of a show of strength. what are they thinking? i know you wrote a column over the weekend, perhaps optimistically, that there could still be a deal. do you still feel that way? >> i think. it's still possible. >> the europeans. >> are working. >> on a unified platform.

>> of support for ukraine. >> keir starmer, the british prime minister. >> has made it clear that he would like then. >> to mediate. >> in effect. >> between ukraine and. >> europe. >> and. >> come back to a unified. position that could. >> go towards peace negotiations. >> ukrainians told me over. >> the weekend that president zelenskyy, when. >> he was at the oval office in that catastrophic. >> meeting, came prepared. >> to sign. >> an agreement. giving the us a share. >> of ukraine's mineral rights in. >> exchange for. >> us support. >> in negotiations. >> and that they'd be ready to come back and resume those conversations. i think right now it's very fragile. hard to predict exactly where this is. >> going. >> but my instinct is that there'll be, again, an effort by ukraine to work out a deal. >> with the united. >> states and go into negotiations. >> well, point blank, can ukraine exist without the support of the united states? andrea was reporting just at the

top of the hour. andrea mitchell about, you know, the technology that the us provides that europe will, will not and cannot provide the kinds of defense systems, for example, that the united states has. does ukraine really need a deal? >> ukraine does does need a deal with. >> the. >> united states. >> to be able to continue the war? but more to the point, to be able to get. >> to a. >> fair peace agreement. >> in which. >> the aggressor, russia, is not rewarded. >> there are some. extremely important. >> systems that the us and nato allies provide to ukraine that allow precise targeting of russian positions in eastern ukraine. some of those are actually being financed by european countries, but without the us anchor in terms of the satellite and other intelligence resources, i don't think those technologies will will work. my biggest fear, chris, simply, is

that ukraine will run out of air defenses and without air defenses, its territory will be as vulnerable to russian attack as gaza is to israeli attack. that's the fear that ukrainians have. >> is there anyone in the european union, for example, who has the ear of donald trump? anybody who has the ear of donald trump more than vladimir putin. >> so the nato. >> secretary general, mark rutte. has been since trump's first term supportive of him, was very early to say that trump was right. europeans should be paying more for their defense. trump is said to like him and to get along well with him. and he's been leading the argument. mr. president, you need to have a strong and sustainable peace agreement. otherwise it's going to blow up on you. it's going to come back to haunt you during your term. so i think is with keir starmer the key person as an interlocutor? trump badly

wants this peace agreement. he campaigned on it. he said he'd get it done quickly. and as things begin to splinter after the catastrophe in the oval office, you know away it's trump who's embarrassed because he's not able to deliver on what he promised. he may blame zelensky, but that but that misses the point that that he won't get the deal done. >> david ignatius, thank you so much. there was an emotional moment of remembrance sunday as figure skating icons took to the ice in washington, d.c, honoring the legacy of 28 skaters, family members and coaches who tragically died in the january 29th mid-air collision. the event, legacy on ice raised money to support the victims families and first responders. my colleague stephanie gosk spoke to the olympians who helped organize the event. >> this one. >> just felt so unfair and different because it's children, it's and it's coming from the development camp, which means that they're the promise.

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going to let it go down. we are not going to let it decline. we are going to make it better than ever before. are you ready to join me? >> well, his entrance into the race triggered immediate blowback from his opponents, of course, but also groups on both sides of the aisle. back with us, democratic strategist joel payne. and with me here, nbc's rehema ellis. so, rehema, how does he shake up the race in the country's largest city? well. joe will tell you name recognition counts for a lot of things, including some voters, it seems, because in polls taken before cuomo entered the race, he was at the top of the pile of that. and mayor adams, he was running second or third. but if you add in what's called undecided and don't know yet, that comes in second behind in front of mayor adams. but mayor adams was very gracious when cuomo jumped into the race this weekend. he said, come one, come all. he's ready for a fight. he has said that he denies all of

these charges that are being held against him. and there is some speculation. again, joe can talk to this about whether mayor adams would leave the democratic party and run as an independent, what that would do. but we're going to find out all of this really soon. we know that the painters and the carpenters union have already voiced their support for cuomo. a lot of projects got built under his administration, including a brand new laguardia airport. we've got a brand new amtrak station, and they're both beautiful, and they gave a lot of jobs to painters and carpenters, so it will all shake out not so long from now. the primaries coming up in june. yeah, name recognition obviously helps, joel, but is it necessarily everything? is that the reason he came in at the top of the polls even before he got in the race? and what does his return to politics in 2025 say about where we are right now? >> yeah. >> chris, i think i agree with rama's point about name recognition. it is really important. also, look, this is someone who's won statewide multiple times in new york, not just as governor but also as

attorney general. he has the name id, not just of he in public office, but his father, who, of course, was famed former new york governor mario cuomo. so there's a lot that's working in andrew cuomo's favor. i think it's important to not underplay why cuomo had to step away from public service previously. the concerns about his safety were very real. and look, i think in a, in a city that has a high democratic population of voters, where that type of thing does still matter, i don't think that's insignificant. however, i don't think that's the type of obstacle that makes it untenable for him to be a realistic candidate for mayor. and i think it'll be very interesting to see how this race shakes up. with mayor adams obviously still in the race, and a lot of well known democrats that are going to vie for that spot alongside former governor cuomo as well. >> well, but i would argue no democrats necessarily, as well known as either of them. and you do have a track record from

cuomo of standing up to trump. certainly during covid, he became sort of the face of the opposition for a lot of people. meantime, i think one of the things that's probably hurt the mayor is that he seems to a lot of democrats to be intertwined, obviously, with the trump administration and the fact that they, the prosecutors, dropped their case against him. are we in a place where people, including democrats, will look at something and say, yeah, maybe he wasn't a great guy. maybe there were accusations against him, but who's going to run the city in a way that makes it better than it is now? because there are a lot of new yorkers who are disgruntled with the state of affairs in new york city right now. >> yeah. >> chris, those are good points. look, obviously the laws of politics have shifted a good deal. folks who have the types of skeletons in the closet that andrew cuomo have, i think, have a better chance at overcoming those. i think the public has displayed a higher tolerance for those types of imperfections in their in their candidates and

potentially elected officials. a thing to remember about andrew cuomo, too, is that this era, the post covid era, he really was kind of a trailblazer for how to speak to constituents and voters during that time, going on tv every day, doing the type of what i would call 21st century style retail politics that really plays well, not just in a city like new york, but in our current media ecosystem, media ecosystem where you need to break through. he's demonstrated he can do that. again, he has real challenges. but i think you're on to something about the fact that a democratic electorate is a lot more forgiving of some of those personal skeletons that we know that governor cuomo has. >> joel payne, rehema ellis, thank you both. we're just going to go back and i'll show you the picture that's happening at the white house right now. we should say that president trump was just asked what has to happen for president zelensky to get back, essentially into the good graces of the united states. and he said he has to be more appreciative because this country has stuck with him. we

should say. and we played it in the first hour of this program, that president zelensky put out a tape today where he said how appreciative his country is to america, to the american people. donald trump doesn't seem to be feeling it yet. we'll continue to listen to this, but that's going to do it. oh, we're going to okay, let's go in. let's listen. >> all young boys from ukraine and from russia. and that's not young people from the united states, but it's on a human basis. i want to see it. stop. the money is one thing, but the death. and they're losing thousands of soldiers a week. and that's not including the people that get killed every time a town goes down or a missile goes into a town, and we. and i want to see it stop. yes. >> are you considering. >> canceling military aid to ukraine? and can. >> we get. >> a. >> reaction to what the leaders

said? that your administration is bringing us worldview in alignment with moscow's. >> so this is a deal that should have never happened. this is a deal that would have never happened. and it didn't happen for four years. it didn't happen. it was never even close to happening. if i were president, would not have happened and october 7th would have happened, would not have happened in israel, and inflation would not have happened. and afghanistan disastrous the way they withdrew, not the fact that they withdrew, but the way they withdrew would have never happened. and we would have had bagram right now instead of china having it. it was one hour away from where china makes their nuclear weapons. we would have kept bagram with one of the biggest air bases in the world. all of these things happened, and it's a shame, but it is what it is. and now we're here. i want to see it end fast. i don't want to see this go on for years and years now, president zelensky supposedly made a statement today in ap. i'm not a big fan of ap, so maybe it was an incorrect statement, but he

said he thinks the war's going to go on for a long time, and he better not be right about that. that's all i'm saying. >> this project, could this minimize the impact to the us with chips? should china decide to isolate taiwan or trying to decide to take taiwan? >> well, it's a very interesting point. it's a great question actually, but this would certainly, i can't say minimize that would be a catastrophic. >> i want to bring in nbc's vaughn hillyard in washington, covering the white house. the first comments that we've had extensively, like this one since that blow up in the oval office. tell us what we heard. >> yeah, on several layers here. this is significant. number one, he says that the minerals deal is not necessarily dead. president zelensky, just less than 24 hours ago, suggested that he would be eager to sign a deal. again. we're trying to get an understanding of exactly of the specifics of that deal that would be of interest to president trump here, but he said that he wants president zelensky to, quote, be more appreciative. that's how he would return to the negotiating

table. you also notably heard president trump not answer the very specific question of whether he and his administration are considering cutting off all military and financial aid to ukraine because of this rift, white house officials told nbc news over the weekend that they were considering going that route. you also heard the president sidestep the question of a spokesperson for the kremlin, vladimir putin, explicitly saying this weekend about the trump administration, quote, the new administration is rapidly changing all foreign policy configurations. this largely coincides with our vision. he was asked to respond to that. president trump did not respond to that. and when it comes to this $100 billion chips investment by this taiwanese based company, this is a notable announcement. just 10% of semiconductors and chips are actually manufactured in the united states. and of course, for national security and economic security purposes, it has been of the utmost concern not only to the biden administration, but the trump administration as well, about increasing manufacturing here

domestically. and as we saw from the chips act, we saw more than $60 billion be promised to be invested in plants in arizona. the ceo of this taiwanese based company is pledging to invest in at least two more additional plants, totaling $160 billion. about 60% of chips are manufactured in taiwan. and of course, you heard one of the questions they're being asked of president trump was the considerations about these chips that are manufactured in taiwan. there has been serious questions after what has taken place in ukraine, whether united states would come to the defense of taiwan if china were to invade. that has been an outstanding question for the trump administration. and a big part of that is about the defense of the us semiconductor exports from taiwan. now, this is a notable investment out of this white house here. >> chris von hilliard, thank you. that's going to do it for us this hour. our coverage continues with katy tur reports right now.