what do you think the republicans are going to see any consequences for the fact that they are dismissing the people like the folks at this town hall, as you know, paid democratic actors or operatives. only if democrats successfully capitalize on this moment. and they have to do that by creating an apparatus that allows the public to immediately engage and channel what everyone is feeling out on the streets on that side of the aisle. if they fail to do that, then republicans will not face those consequences. however, if they create an apparatus which allows for you to plug and play and get involved immediately where you are, they absolutely will. >> well, ali gave you all the website, honey. charles coleman, waleed shahid, thank you both very much folks. that's all for this hour. i'm sandra townsend. i will see you again tomorrow night at 7 p.m. eastern. i'm going to join that panel with psaki and ari melber inside with jen psaki though starts right now.

>> okay. >> donald trump seems to be doing a lot of things right now that are making vladimir putin. very happy. i mean, just in the last half hour, we learned that the trump administration. >> is pausing. >> all military aid to ukraine. and at the. very same time, he's doing a lot of things that are making our closest allies very angry. just hours ago, trump confirmed that tariffs on canada and mexico will go into effect at midnight tonight, just a few hours from now. and i'm going to talk to chrystia freeland, who could very well be the next prime minister of canada, about all of that in just a minute. and ahead of trump's joint address to congress tomorrow night, i'm also going to talk to congresswoman ilhan omar about how democrats are pushing back and how they will tomorrow. well, the thought of donald trump. walking into the house chamber again may make you want to crawl into the fetal position, which i totally understand. that speech is actually where i want to start. and here's why. because tomorrow night, he's going to give you

his version of events, and i want to give you mine. now, i could sit here and tell you all about the inner workings of how a big speech like this typically comes together in a white house, how the writing process typically works, how the preparation typically works, how the strategy typically works, what a president is thinking about in the days ahead. all of the things i could talk about all of that. but the thing is, in this moment, that would all be pretty useless because this is not a normal speech. it's not a normal presidency. it's not a normal reality we are all living in. to state the obvious, and i think it's important to remember all of that heading into tomorrow night, because trump is going to have a big platform, and he's definitely going to try his hardest to convince you that his plan and his last six weeks in office have helped you somehow. now, i mean, just this morning, trump previewed his speech by saying, quote, tomorrow night will be big. i will tell it like it is, but let me translate that for you real quick. when trump says he'll

tell it like it is, what he really means is that he's going to tell you what his own warped version of is, of what he wants you to believe. i mean, i honestly don't know what's in the speech. i can't entirely predict all the things he's going to talk about at all, but i think it's pretty safe to say that he's going to lie. he's going to exaggerate. he's going to sugarcoat. he's going to say a lot of things that aren't true. but as you're watching that and resisting the urge to throw something at the tv, if you do, just make sure it's a soft thing. just remember that you know it's true. no matter what he says tomorrow, you know what he's already done. you know what you've been seeing with your own eyes. you know how you and your family and your neighbors have been feeling. i mean, you probably felt a little less safe booking that next flight. after a series of recent crashes and air disasters. as trump and musk continue their quest to gut the faa. i bet you've heard about the measles outbreak in texas killing a child that might be the same age as your kid or your grandkid. as

trump and musk got the department of health and human services. you might have seen the news today that for the first time in history, your social security checks might not come on time. you've probably gone to the grocery store over the past few weeks and seen that the prices have not actually gone down, but up. and you know that when trump imposes his tariffs on canada and mexico in a few hours, costs will go up even more. if you have money in the stock market, you probably notice that the markets tanked today after trump confirmed those tariffs are coming. and i know you saw what happened in the oval office on friday when trump berated an ally under attack and sided with a murderous dictator. what is this? you see what's happening, you know what's happening. and if you spent the last few weeks worrying about what all of this means for you and what this means for the country and your community, you're not alone. i mean, you're in the majority. actually, brand new polling shows that a majority of americans say the state of the union is not very strong. a majority of americans say the cuts to the federal government are doing more harm than good. a majority of americans say trump

has not paid enough attention to the country. most important problems. and the only president who had a lower approval rating than donald trump at this point in their presidency is donald trump. again. you see what's happening, you know what's happening, and you are in the majority. we see that very clearly in the data, and we're also seeing it in communities and town halls all across the country. i mean, look at the greeting. vice president jd vance got in vermont over the weekend when citizens crowded the streets carrying signs like democracy, not fascism. and my personal favorite, go ski in russia, jd and listen to this chorus of boos at congressman keith self's town hall in texas over the weekend. >> if those programs have. >> i mean, that's pretty loud from the people of texas. and watch this moment from a town hall in kansas where constituents press senator roger marshall so forcefully that he literally just got up and walked

out. >> we're not. >> going to stand up. >> i got two more commitments today. appreciate everybody making the drive out and. >> god bless america. >> thank you. all right. thank you to our. our our our our. who. >> they seem a little displeased there in kansas. i want you to take a listen to one more. this is from congressman tom suozzi, his town hall, over the weekend. and keep in mind, as you're watching that. well, yes, he is a democrat. he represents a very purple district. >> listen, everybody's freaking out. everybody's like, you know, i'm mr. like, let's work together. >> let's try and. >> find common ground. >> and what happened in the white house yesterday? i was so off. >> i was just so. i knew.

>> you had to get that out of your system. >> i mean, he was referencing donald trump berating zelensky, the president of ukraine, in the oval office, and people were clapping because they were off, too. it's pretty loud and clear from the people of long island. now, trump, of course, came out this morning and said nothing to see here and that all of these people and all of these town halls are just paid troublemakers. that's his claim. and of course, there's no evidence that that's true. but that response is an awfully good window into what we will likely hear from him tomorrow night. he's going to tell you not to believe what you're seeing with your own eyes, not to believe what you're feeling in your gut, and to just take him at his word. i'm here to tell you to do the exact opposite. i'm here to tell you to trust what you've been seeing with your own eyes. believe what you've been feeling in your gut. and know that you are definitely not alone. i can think of two better people to talk with about all of this. dan pfeiffer is a former senior adviser to president obama and co-host of pod save america. ben rhodes is the former deputy national security advisor to president obama. if this was a normal state of the union, we

could just get super nerdy about all the preparations. but it's not, so we're not going to do that. so, dan, let me start with you. i just gave my take on how i'm looking at tomorrow night. we're all going to watch it. so if people watching don't want to watch it, we'll tell you all about it. but how are you looking at it? >> i think one of. >> the big. >> questions about. >> this speech. >> is. is everyone, people like us, the media. >> the democrats in congress, going. >> to treat it like a normal speech, just a slightly. more extreme version of a traditional. >> state of the. >> union. when that's not what this is, right? >> we know what we're. >> going to get is. >> going to be gas lighting. >> we know that we are undergoing. >> one of the most radical. >> and. >> dangerous. >> potentially unconstitutional. >> changes in how america operates over the last six weeks here. >> and are. >> we going to treat it as such? are we just going. to get. >> up there. >> and critique. >> what he says? >> say, you know. >> maybe this wasn't exactly right, maybe this wasn't wrong. >> go through the strategy of it. >> and then. >> come out with our. >> talking points. >> about the price. >> of eggs. >> right? >> or are we going to.

>> or. >> we're. >> going to play a bigger. >> game here and. >> talk about what's really happening. and i think that's the question for all. >> of. us is as we try. >> to. figure out, because. >> we don't really have the vocabulary or the experience to really deal with what. trump is doing with elon musk are doing to our country right now. >> no question. it's unprecedented is one way of talking about it, but it's many, many things. ben, let me ask you, i mean, one of the things that you always prepare for and you always watch on the outside is sort of what everybody does in the room. and i'm sure we will talk about that tomorrow as we see it. but i think it's important to also level set just how abnormal and horrible in many ways things are right now. i mean, we just learned tonight that the us is going to pause all military assistance into ukraine. i think we should expect anything in this moment, of course. but if trump makes a big deal of that tomorrow night, are you expecting republicans in the chamber are going to stand up and applaud? i mean, what are what should we be preparing for to the degree we even know in that regard? >> well, just to. >> build on what you said. >> in your. >> opening, jen, and what. >> dan said, he's going to try

to present. all of these. >> deeply radical things he's. >> doing on his. >> own terms. and then there's going to be this instinct to digest them as if they're kind of policy shifts, right? >> so ukraine. >> he will present. >> what he's doing. berating president zelensky. >> in the oval office. >> and cutting all assistance. >> as a peace plan and not as what it really is, which is a. transformative event in american. >> history where. >> the united states is shifting. >> from the side. >> of our european allies to the side of vladimir putin. that's what. >> it is. he will try to present. >> it as something else. >> as a peace plan, and. >> the. same way that he. >> will. >> try to present. >> you know, doge. >> as just an. >> effort. >> to get rid of. waste and fraud. >> and cut some spending from. >> the budget and not what it actually is, which is. >> an effort. >> led. by a tech oligarch to dismantle. >> the. >> us federal government. right. >> and so. >> across the board, there are. >> going to be these. >> things where he's trying to kind of take advantage of the normalcy of the venue. you know, i just am a.

>> guy with an agenda. >> to make government. >> work better, to bring peace. >> to ukraine. >> to, you know, have a big, beautiful economy. never mind that the. tariffs are. >> going to go into effect tomorrow, are going. >> to. >> have huge disruptive effects on. >> vital american. >> sectors, like. >> the. >> automotive sector, like. >> the prices of food. >> and so i think the republicans look, i have. >> no hope for them. they'll stand and applaud. >> they'll salute. >> mr. trump. they'll do whatever they have. >> to do. >> to. >> avoid, you know. >> some maga media. >> coming after them. i think what we have to do. >> is not give in. to the. >> normalcy of. the event. we are living through a very. >> abnormal thing that is. >> happening, and. >> we're going to be living. >> through it. >> for at least. >> two years until the. midterm elections. >> and i think that's. >> how democrats need. >> to respond. and frankly. >> everybody who is in. >> the. >> kind. of reality. based world. >> whatever their party affiliation, needs to respond. >> i mean, the man can read from a teleprompter if he needs to, i actually don't. i mean, the inauguration was so much crazier than the first inauguration, so that's not what i expect. but if anyone says he became president tonight, tomorrow night i'm going to lay on the ground. so i

hope that's not what happens anywhere. dan, let me ask you just about democrats and because because that that is one thing. ben, ben raised there and also you referenced, i mean, the vernacular and the how exactly to fight back. it feels like everybody's kind of working out the kinks of what works and what doesn't work. some democrats are not showing up. some are doing alternative events. some are bringing federal workers who have been fired. what do you what do you think they should do? >> i mean. >> all of. >> the above, honestly. >> which is, i. >> think for much. >> of the we're getting better. we should stipulate the. >> democrats are getting better than they were a few weeks ago. >> but as a party. >> we've been. >> so flummoxed by how to deal with trump. because i think the results of the election, the degree of the. >> shift in. >> trump's direction, really sort of broke people's brains. and so we're like a lot. >> of people. >> are waiting for whatever the right the silver bullet, the right message. >> when the one poll that's going. >> to tell us what to. >> do. >> when the reality is just like, get out there and make. >> noise, right. >> get out. >> because right now. >> and this is, i think, the lesson. >> of media in the trump era. is

quantity. >> is more is. >> more. >> important than precision in what you say. >> so my only. >> piece of. >> advice. >> i. >> think, is. >> don't play whack. >> a mole. >> try to tell one. >> story about. >> what trump. >> is doing. >> and the story that i. >> would recommend. >> is corruption. >> it is what ties all of this. >> together, right? >> whether you have the world's richest man rooting through our government. >> killing the. >> regulators that. look after his businesses, whether. >> you. >> have a taxpayer. >> funded crypto scam. >> whether you. >> have a taxpayer funded political ad for. >> trump. >> a bunch of people are enriching. >> themselves within the government. >> like that is a story. >> that can tie everything together. >> but you don't have to take my story. just get out. >> there and start talking. >> yeah, i'm interested in the federal workers and how they effectively tell those stories, too, because it's i mean, 80% of these workers are federal workers are not in dc, and nobody really knows that. we're going to talk about that later in the show. let me ask you, ben, i, i just played some footage of congressman tom suozzi. he's in a purple district. he kind of said he said basically, which is which is not which is imperfect in a good way. as dan was saying, that he was off about what he saw on friday happened in the

oval office. people cheered. we all, of course, root for ukraine and have worked in many ways in supporting ukraine. but that sort of surprised me. i mean, that's not a politically popular issue necessarily. what do you think? >> i think because that. >> was such a jarring event that it. >> broke through, and. >> because it gets to a core values proposition. and, jen, i want to build something dan said. not just because. >> he kind of looked over my shoulder through. >> six state of the unions. but this should not be on ukraine. the message should not be about, you know, what are the security guarantees that ukraine. >> gets as a part of. >> the peace deal. >> should not even be about military assistance. >> to ukraine. it should be about. >> what side. >> is america on in the world? yeah. >> donald trump wants to put us on the. >> side of a murderous russian dictator in vladimir putin. >> that's something that. >> everybody can understand. >> and that's something that even trump voters who maybe. >> didn't like. >> the number associated. >> with the assistance we provided to ukraine. >> they can't have felt that comfortable watching that. i'm sure the core. >> maga people did.

>> but you don't want to have the. debate on trump's terms about. >> like, how many billions of dollars should. >> we give to ukraine? >> the debate should be about whether the united states should be on the side of vladimir putin in the world, or whether we should be on the side of things like freedom and things like alliances. >> that americans kind. >> of intuitively understand. >> in the same way, just to go. >> back to the. >> federal workers. >> we're not defending an amorphous bureaucracy here. so human beings who are losing. >> their jobs. >> were in communities, you know. who work at the va or they're air traffic controllers. you know. >> you have to put a human. >> face on what is happening to people. >> it's not about the prerogatives of congress being violated. >> by the dismantling the federal government by elon musk. >> it's what's going to happen in. >> your. >> national park. what's going to happen. >> at your local va? >> what's going to happen. >> with the faa that you rely on to get to where you're going safely? >> i think that's actually. >> connected to this russia thing. >> like these have to be. >> visceral, values based messages that. people can digest. you don't have to win. a policy. argument about. >> trump is going to try. >> to put this. >> all. >> in his.

>> terms. >> and we have to make this in the clearest, simple way about what is right and what is wrong, what is helping you and what is hurting you. and i think the evidence is overwhelmingly on the side of donald trump is hurting you. >> and again, just to dan's. >> point about. >> corruption, you could bring russia into that. >> as well. by the way. >> he was talking about selling citizenship to russian. oligarchs for, you. >> know. >> gold card. >> or whatever he called it. >> you know, that's a part. >> of the whole. >> corruption thing too. >> if you're sitting, if you're sitting at the party with north korea and russia and belarus, you're maybe on the wrong side. i think it's a good way for people to think about it. dan pfeiffer, ben rhodes, thank you both so much. i always love talking to you both. and coming up as trump cozies up to vladimir putin, he's also antagonizing our closest allies and hurting american consumers in the process. the markets tanked today when trump confirmed the tariffs of tariffs on mexico and canada will go into effect at midnight tonight, just a couple hours from now. chrystia freeland could be the prime minister of canada this time next week. and she joins me in just 60s.

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>> so i was just talking about this with ben and dan. but i'm sure you've noticed america's place in the world is kind of upside down right now. donald trump berated ukraine's president in the oval office on friday. former russian president dmitry medvedev tweeted that he loved seeing, quote, the insolent pig finally get a proper slap down in the oval office. and by the way, he was referring to president zelensky, not donald trump. putin's longtime spokesperson, dmitry peskov, came out and said publicly that u.s. foreign policy now, quote, largely coincides with our vision, as in the kremlin's vision. and i don't know that i've ever said this before, but dmitri peskov is absolutely right. i mean, just today, nbc news confirmed that the white house is pausing all military aid to ukraine, and reuters reported today that the trump administration is also drawing up a plan to potentially give russia sanctions relief. so, yeah, donald trump really is going all in on helping russia while simultaneously inflicting as much pain as he can on our closest allies. today, trump

confirmed that 25% tariffs on goods from mexico and canada will go into effect at midnight tonight, just a couple of hours from now. and as you know, that won't just hurt them. it will hurt you, the american consumer. and that fear was reflected in the market today with the dow closing down nearly 650 points, thanks in part to this. >> on the tariffs, is there any room. >> left for canada and mexico to make a deal before midnight? >> and should we expect. >> those chinese tariffs, the extra 10%. >> to take effect? >> no room left for mexico or for canada. no. the tariffs you know, they're all set. they go into effect tomorrow. >> joining me now is chrystia freeland. she served as canada's finance minister and deputy prime minister under justin trudeau. she's now a candidate for prime minister herself. it is great to see you. you could be. which is pretty incredible to say out loud. you could be the prime minister this time next week. tariffs, of course, are going to be a major issue. you've suggested canada should fight back in a very targeted way. you've been very forward

about that. you've pushed to target wisconsin dairy farmers, michigan manufacturers, florida oranges, to name a few, as a way of really specifically hitting states that are politically key to donald trump. you know, it gets to his heart there. how far for people who are watching? are you ready to go on tariffs? they're going to they're going to be put into place in a couple of hours. how far are you ready to go and what other targets would you want to aim for? >> well, it is great to be with you, jen. and i am running to be the next leader of the liberal party and the next prime minister. >> of. >> canada, because right now we canadians have to stand up and fight for our country. if the tariffs are imposed, as. >> prime minister, i. >> will fight back. >> with dollar for dollar. >> retaliatory tariffs. and our retaliation is going to be surgically targeted to create the maximum. pressure on the white house to. stop what the wall street journal has

described. >> quite rightly. >> as the. dumbest trade war in history. an example of. >> a measure. >> that i will put in place as prime minister is. 100% tariffs. >> on teslas. >> i think that should get some attention in the white house. and you know, jen, i think people americans, you know, i don't think you think about canada all that much. but i think when you do think about canada, you might think, oh, they're smaller than us. is this really something i should be worried about? well, the stock market is worried. shares have gone down and this has been a terrible year for us stocks already because of these tariff threats. and the reality is you guys need us. we are your largest market by far. the us sells more to canada than to china, japan, the uk and france combined. so we do have leverage. and as prime minister i will use it. and not because i

want to. i mean, the irony about this, the stupidity about this is right now we have a balanced and mutually beneficial relationship. there is a win win here. there is an exit ramp. but americans need to know that if you hit canada, we will hit back. and we will be sure that our retaliation hurts. >> i think americans are very concerned right now about these tariffs that are about to go back and go into place and could impact their bottom line and their cost of goods. let me ask you, as you just mentioned, elon musk, i think everybody in this country is learning a lot about his influence, which is unwieldy and over the top, just to say a few words. you mentioned 100% tariffs on teslas to hit elon musk. he owns a number of other companies. obviously there's starlink. would you ever consider canceling canada's contracts with starlink, for example? >> absolutely. and canadian premiers have already said that

they would do that. i think you made a really important point a minute ago, jen, which is right now, this is maybe abstract for americans, but if these tariffs are put in place, it is going to hurt americans. anyone who has a 401 k is going to be hit, because the stock market is already hurting. anyone who needs to fill their car up with gas is going to be hit. you are going to be putting tariffs, a tax on the oil and gas and electricity that we sell you. totally absurd. your grocery prices are going to go up because you know what? you need to grow food in the united states. you need fertilizer. and 80% of it comes from canada. and you're going to put a 25% tax on it. i mean, the wall street journal is right. this is dumb. this is utterly self-mutilating. and our retaliation is going to make it worse because we just we

can't stand for these attacks on our economy. so really, what i'm saying to you and to your viewers, jen, is call the white house now. say to the president, say to your congressman, say to your senators, say to your governors, this is self mutilation. this just doesn't make sense. there is no need to do this. but if you follow this path, it's going to hurt america. >> it's not every day when you hear a candidate to be the leader of a neighboring country, called for people to call the white house and their members of congress. so that speaks to the significance of the moment. i want to turn to ukraine, because i think when i first met you, you were at, well, very well respected journalist. you covered you spent a lot of time in ukraine. you covered russia. this is obviously something i think we're all trying to figure out what's happening and why. right now, there are a lot of theories as to why trump is siding with putin and badgering zelensky. to put it one way. why

do you think he is? >> well, i would like to start, jen, by just being very clear about what we are seeing. and i think it's important to say this seems that we saw in the oval office on friday were shameful. they were appalling. we saw a us president parroting kremlin talking points. and i want to be very clear, for the record, that putin is a dictator. his invasion of ukraine is criminal and illegal. zelensky is the democratically elected president of ukraine, and ukrainians are bravely fighting for their democracy and their sovereignty. and by the way, they're doing it alone. we should be grateful to them for fighting for democracy and the rules based international order. and canadians certainly are. >> chrystia freeland, thank you so much for joining us. i really appreciate it.

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protests. you probably remember nancy pelosi tearing up the text of donald trump's speech back in 2020. that same year, and in many years prior, democratic women from both chambers wore all white to protest the trump administration's attacks on reproductive freedom. but this year, things are shaping up to be a little different. democrats are responding in all sorts of ways to tomorrow's joint address to congress. some have said they'll boycott the speech altogether. senator ron wyden of oregon announced that he'll counter-program the event with a virtual town hall. and many democrats are choosing to attend with a guest who can tell the story of the impact of trump's first six weeks in office. those guests will include some of the many federal workers from across the country who have been unceremoniously fired by elon musk and his merry band of d.o.j. interns. they're highlighting that this is a national issue, because more than 80% of federal employees work outside the d.c. area. most people didn't know that. really, it's a pretty big number. joining me now is democratic congresswoman ilhan omar of minnesota. she will be attending the president's speech tomorrow.

and she's bringing one of those fired workers as her guests. let me just start. i can't wait to hear about your guest. i want to start just by asking you about your decision to attend tomorrow. >> yeah. >> i believe. >> we are entitled to be in the room. >> i think it. >> is important for us to be unified in. >> whatever. >> decision that we make. and it's important for some of us to be there in defiance of the lies that he is going to tell, but also make sure. >> that we have guests. >> every day, americans who are truly being impacted by the disastrous second term of the trump administration. >> so your guest and this is something i think people sometimes forget that members of congress can do, is bring a guest with them as well. your guest is a person who was a federal worker who was fired by the doge team of interns, whomever they are. tell us about him. >> so my guest. >> my constituent. >> chris, is a veteran air force

veteran. he was working. >> as the deputy. >> assistant director for the small business administration. he's also someone. >> who we've been working really. >> hard and feels. >> that devastation of the refugee. >> resettlement program. because he has. >> colleagues that have. >> been left behind. >> after we. >> withdraw from afghanistan, who are now considered as traitors in in their. country and their lives are at risk if we do not provide the help. that they provided to us. >> one of the things that i just mentioned, the 80% statistic, and you were telling me before we came on air here that there are a huge number of federal workers in minnesota. yeah. tell me, how many and what are they doing there? >> in minnesota, we. have about 35,000 federal employees. >> these are. >> the people. when you. >> visit your social security office. >> those are the federal workers. >> when you go to renew your passport. >> those are federal employees. >> when you go to national. >> parks. >> those are federal employees.

and i think. >> oftentimes and. >> why it is so. >> important for us to bring some. of these fired federal employees. >> is that people think about the 2 million federal employees. it's a. number to them. many of them, you. >> know, don't know what the. actual important work and service that they provide to them that will impact their day. >> to. >> day lives. when i think about social. >> security, i. >> think about. the. the, the kind of long lines that already existed with our social security office in minneapolis that already. >> was understaffed. >> now, when you. lose more. >> of those. >> staff members, that means your checks may be delayed. and when we're thinking about seniors or. >> people. >> with disabilities, these are not people who have savings. they are relying on that check to arrive on time so that they can pay their rent. they can pay their mortgage, they can pay for food and their their essential needs. >> and when you think about, you. >> know, you have a kid. >> you need your. so you.

>> need to get their social security card. >> if you lose your social. >> security card, you're about to start a job. >> you need your social security card. so if you go there and. >> the doors. are closed or it's only manned half of the day, you. >> might not be able. >> to get the services that you need. and that's going to have a real world. impact for our our constituents and our neighbors. >> and that's happening across the country. so important for people to understand the real impacts in communities. let me ask you, you mentioned being there to show defiance. and i think a lot of people watching are happy to hear that. not surprised to hear that. what does that look like? i mean, there have been walkouts in the past. is that still a possibility? what is defiance look like? i mean. >> it will. >> look different. >> for. >> every member. i think this go around. we shouldn't be surprised if we see walkouts. >> we shouldn't. >> be surprised. >> if we see, you know. >> the kind of coordinated effort in dressing. >> a certain. >> way. to send a message. >> we shouldn't be surprised if. >> we see.

>> people might even, you know, verbally react to. >> some of the lies that we. >> know he. >> is going to tell about the work that his. administration is doing and the harm that it's causing the american people. >> there's so many things to pick from. we struggle this with this sometimes as we're figuring out what to talk about on the show, in terms of calling out the impact of what trump is doing, clearly you feel very passionately about the impact on federal workers. what do you think the one message or the big message should be from democrats and telling people what the impact is? >> yeah. >> i mean, i think. >> there are three things. >> that we. should highlight. one is the constitutional crisis that he's. created by passing our article one authorities and not providing. >> the resources that. >> we'd already funded as members of congress. two is the corruption. you see, the faa had that that was fired because there was an investigation to

elon musk. you see. the consumer protection bureau being gutted. that is corruption that's directly linked. >> to the investigations that were. >> going into his billionaire donors. you see the. inspector generals that that were fired, these are the watchdogs that were investigating elon musk and others for corruption. >> you see. >> the. labor protection departments that are being gone after that is because elon musk had an. >> investigation that was open. >> to one of his workers that was killed at a tulsa plant. so there is corruption. and then the last thing is, is the chaos. the chaos is important for us to highlight because it provides a cover, a distraction. the american people are fed lies. >> every single day. >> they are going about.

>> their daily. >> lives, right? they're struggling with the cost of. >> of eggs. >> that are in some. >> places. >> over $9 for a dozen of eggs. they are frustrated. >> in just. >> figuring out how they afford their lives. they don't have enough time. >> to, you know. >> go through the list. >> of news articles. >> that. >> are coming from. >> journalists that are fact checking him on, on what is right and what is wrong. and now, even when we think about the tariffs, i come from the great state of minnesota. we have $22 billion trade with canada, right. that's our farmers that are going to be impacted. that's plants that are going to shut down. and then. if we talk about. energy as some of the threats. >> that are coming from. >> the canadians materialize, we're going. >> to. >> see ourselves on the grid, get a blackout. so these. >> are real serious things. >> real impacts. >> that can happen. >> but when you're reading his crazy tweets. >> you're you're you're you

don't have enough time to be able to. actually see what is coming down the pipeline. and that's our job to inform our constituents and the american. >> people to talk about it to and make it real. congresswoman ilhan omar, thank you so much for joining me. i really appreciate it. coming up, donald trump and elon musk love to brag about all the savings dodge has uncovered. but we've literally got the receipts. and i'm going got the receipts. and i'm going to show power e*trade's easy-to-use tools, like dynamic charting and risk-reward analysis, help make trading feel effortless. and its customizable scans with social sentiment help you find and unlock opportunities in the market. e*trade from morgan stanley. ♪♪ with powerful, easy-to-use tools power e*trade makes complex trading easier. react to fast-moving markets with dynamic charting and a futures ladder that lets you place, flatten, or reverse orders so you won't miss an opportunity. e*trade from morgan stanley the.

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>> okay. >> so just days after elon musk called social security a ponzi scheme, donald trump announced a scheme of his own. i would say one that would funnel your taxpayer dollars straight into the crypto market. yesterday, trump announced plans to create a us crypto reserve. so what does that mean? i mean, there's a lot we don't know. but in short, trump wants the us government to buy and hold a massive stockpile of cryptocurrencies, which are notoriously risky investments. that's what it sounds like. in other words, the plan could use your money to pump up the crypto market, boosting the fortunes of the people who spent millions to get trump elected, as well as guess what? the trump family, their company, world liberty financial, bought millions in crypto, including bitcoin and ether hours after his inauguration. and just last week, eric trump posted a tweet encouraging people to, quote, buy the dips in crypto. that's quite some timing. joining me now is someone who understands this stuff better than me, better than almost anyone. it's one of the benefits of working

here. you get to ask stephanie ruhle questions. she's the host of the 11th hour. she's also the senior business correspondent for nbc news. so, stephanie, there's a lot we don't know here, but for people who are trying to consume what this means, let's just start with the basics. what do we know about how this u.s. crypto reserve could even work? and is there any economic value of having one for the country. >> not for the. >> american people? >> listen, cryptocurrencies. >> and you don't have. >> to be pro crypto or against crypto. it's a highly speculative. >> trading vehicle investment. >> but nobody has proven yet why it's a viable. >> currency that. >> we need, right. you use cash. you use credit cards. it's all set. >> we don't. >> need anything else. >> so for donald trump, who once called cryptocurrencies a. scam to now say we may have this reserve in our government. >> you laid it out. now. we don't. >> definitively know if it would be taxpayer dollars, but most likely you would use. taxpayer dollars government money. >> to build. >> up this reserve. now that would. be a perfect. out for

all. >> of. >> those crypto investors to then cash out of their positions. why? because the us. government is buying. >> it. >> up or creating a. >> safety net. >> if there is, let's say, a huge drop in the value of crypto. >> maybe those investors who. >> lose their shirts could say, come. >> in. >> will. >> the. >> government bail. me out? >> and that's something. >> you absolutely shouldn't. have with a highly speculative. vehicle like cryptocurrencies. but when you have someone. like david sachs. >> you know. >> the crypto czar, he's highly. >> incentivized to do this, right. >> you said. >> it. >> at the top. you know, when. donald trump. >> sort of laid out. >> the five specific currencies. >> you mentioned ether. you mentioned bitcoin. >> not only would. donald trump but but david. >> sachs. >> is a large investor in bitwise asset management. ether and bitcoin are two of their largest positions. these men. >> would stand to. >> make an. >> enormous amount of money and with very little regulation, which is what we have right now. who's going to stop them? >> i mean, this is the this is one of the questions i want to

ask you. i mean, you have so many sources in the business community, they poured hundreds of millions of dollars into electing trump and other pro-crypto candidates. what are they hoping for here? or what are you watching for in terms of what happens and who and how it's going to benefit them? >> today. >> i spoke to one of the. largest crypto investors out there who actually said to me straight. >> up, this is just a grift. i mean, in the. >> last few weeks, we have seen the civil suits that were against some of the bad guys in crypto. and let's be clear, because of the lack of regulation, we know money laundering, dark money, we know a lot of bad stuff happens in the crypto zone. it was eric trump who said they got involved in crypto because after january. >> 6th, a lot of businesses and banks. >> weren't doing business with them. so they went to crypto, i.e. the dark side. but even crypto investors are saying this is bad for the brand. >> this is. >> bad for crypto overall. you know, a week ago, a guy named justin sun, you might remember him. he was the guy a few months ago who paid $6.5 million for a

piece of art. it was a banana duct taped to a wall. he bought it for $6.5 million. he then. >> ate the banana. >> there was a civil suit. against him, possibly a fraud prosecution. well, he invested $75 million in trump's meme coin. and you know what happened right after that? miraculously, the case. was dropped. >> i mean, first of all, if you have so much money that you can buy a banana taped to a wall and eat it, you have too much money, do something else with it. give it to people. >> but, but but. you said what. >> eric trump sent that that that tweet last. >> week saying. >> buy the dips. >> in any. normal time in history. >> jen, if that happened, there would be investigations into insider trading. there would be investigations saying who knew what when. just yesterday. a crypto investor and they don't have to give their name. that's another issue. bought up $200 million worth of cryptocurrencies. and what happens next? trump makes this announcement. and we know in the last week alone, all sorts of big crypto guys have been. >> dining with him. >> down at mar.

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