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>> good morning. 11 a.m. eastern, 8 a.m. pacific. >> i'm jose diaz balart. >> we begin this hour with breaking news. a dramatic. >> escalation of president trump's. >> trade war with america's. top trading partners. overnight. >> the president imposed a 25% tariff on all goods coming into the u.s. from mexico and canada. he also imposed an additional 10% tariff on all goods coming in from china. the markets are not happy with these tariffs. take a look at this. the dow jones down about 730 points. the nasdaq and the s&p 500 are also down this morning. and any moment now we're expecting to hear from canada's prime minister justin trudeau. canada has said it would place a 25% retaliatory tariff on more than $100 billion worth of american goods. earlier this morning, mexico's president claudia sheinbaum said mexico will

respond with retaliatory tariffs that will be announced on sunday. china retaliated by placing a 10 to 15% tariff on american agricultural products starting next week. target ceo brian cornell told cnbc this morning consumers could see higher prices very soon. >> we know for certain categories like fruits and vegetables where during this winter. >> season we depend. >> on mexico for a significant amount of supply. now, those are categories where we'll try to protect pricing, but the consumer will likely see price increases over the next couple of days. >> with us now, cnbc's dominic chu and nbc news senior white house correspondent garrett hake. so, garrett, how is the white house defending the need for these tariffs at this particular time? >> well, jose, it sort of depends on who you talk to. different white house advisers have offered differing viewpoints about why these tariffs are important. the commerce secretary, howard lutnick, was on television this

morning making the case that this is essentially about rightsizing america's trade relationships with the world and protecting u.s. industries. here's his viewpoint. >> tariffs do not do not, do not create inflation. printing money creates inflation. you have a balanced budget. there can't be inflation. it doesn't mean one product could be more expensive and one product could be less expensive. the fact is, we need to protect america. why does china tariff everything? and we give them a free ride back here and they subsidize the opioid production. >> a fact check on that. of course, we do not have a balanced budget in this country, and we don't know if these tariffs will raise prices, although i'm sure dominic will talk about that more. but his view is not the only view here. other advisers to the president, including peter navarro, have said that this is all about stopping fentanyl trafficking into the united states. the president blames canada, china and mexico for fentanyl coming across the border. but that

explanation has problems, too. it's about 2/10 of 1% of all the fentanyl seized coming into this country came from canada, for example, about 43 pounds. that's a carry on suitcase size worth of fentanyl in the last total year. so does that explanation hold up on its own? it's tested as well, jose. so we'll see what the president himself has to say when he addresses this, i'm sure later tonight. but kind of an all of the above approach from the white house in defending these broad moves. >> absolutely. although i'm thinking, garrett, that a carry on sized suitcase filled with fentanyl will kill thousands and thousands of people. dom, just how massive is this and how many repercussions is this going to have? >> oh, so that all remains to. >> be seen, jose, at this point, because what we don't really know. we know how much in terms of goods we traffic between the us, canada, mexico and china. and we do know how much just straight line mathematically a 10% tariff additionally on china would cost an a 25% tariff on

goods from mexico and canada. but with regard to the actual economic impact, yes, it is going to raise prices. and yes, that may slow down consumer spending. the reason why the markets are reacting as markedly as they are and have been over the last couple of days, is because there is a great unknown about just how far the ripple effects could stretch around the economy in the united states and around the world. the reason is because the vast majority of the u.s. economy is still driven by consumer spending. what happens when you start to, in essence, raise prices on consumers and give them no clarity on whether or not those prices will stay elevated or keep going higher? what that tends to do is to, at least in some ways, slow consumer spending down. that is the broader concern right now. the places that you're starting to see the most impact are in some of the industries that are the most directly affected by those 25% tariffs across the us, canada and mexico, that's auto

manufacturers. general motors, stellantis, ford motors. you're also seeing some of the market impact now in places that deal in transportation of goods across the borders between the us, canada and mexico, rail operators with more relative exposure to some of that cross border trade like canadian pacific, kansas city southern, like union pacific, are seeing their stocks hit as well. the other place that you're starting to see an impact here is in energy prices. oil, believe it or not, is lower on this. not because oil may necessarily cost less or more because of tariffs, but because if you do put tariffs in place over the longer term, what does that do to consumer demand? if people start to spend less on things like gasoline and transportation fuel overall, that is going to have a slowing effect on oil prices and the economy. and by the way, another place, anything really consumer discretionary related things that are not groceries, clothes, things that we need. we're talking travel and leisure spending. airlines, cruise line

operators are all taking a bigger hit today because the longer term effects on the consumer, jose, are what are really in question right now. do we spend less? and if we do, how does that affect the overall economy? those are really big unknowns right now. >> and garrett. meanwhile mexicans. mexico's president claudia sheinbaum this morning. i mean, she just she called what president trump said about this offensive, defamatory and without any support. what was it that the president or the white house said that has upset the mexican president to such a degree? >> yeah, this is a relationship that seems to be under significant strain. jose with the mexican president appears to be upset about was language in a fact sheet that accompanied the release of these tariffs, suggesting that the mexican government has an intolerable relationship with the cartels and the drug traffickers, even suggesting that there's a de facto alliance between the mexican government and these criminal organizations. remember, the trump white house has designated the major cartels in mexico as terrorist

organizations. the president has regularly floated the idea of unilateral military action against them, suggesting that the mexican government, the duly elected mexican government, is somehow in league with these organizations. you might see why that would upset the president of mexico. >> thank you very much. let's go right to canada. the prime minister of that country is just starting to speak. let's go. >> to that. >> positively. >> with russia. >> appeasing vladimir putin. >> a lying. >> murderous dictator. make that make sense. canadians are reasonable. >> and we are polite, but we will not back down from a fight. not when our country and the well-being of everyone in it is at stake. at the moment. the us tariffs came into effect in the early hours of this morning and so did the canadian response.

canada will be implementing 25% tariffs against $155 billion worth of american goods, starting with tariffs on $30 billion worth of goods immediately and tariffs on the remaining $125 billion of american products in 21 days time. aujourd'hui, again today, we find ourselves forced to introduce 25% tariffs on $155 billion. >> of u.s. merchandise. >> the merchandise american. excusez moi, $30 billion will come into effect immediately. >> the prime minister. of canada, reaffirming his decision, his country's decision to establish $155 billion worth of tariffs, 25% tariff hike on initially $30 billion worth of

us products and then in 21 days, the other $125 billion. i want to go back to dominic chu and garrett hake, who is with us from the white house. dom, to explain if you would like. how are these things established? right. they say we're going to establish $30 billion worth of tariffs immediately, and $125 billion worth in 21 days. what's the process and how does that actually take effect? >> so the process by which this is happening is all i mean, it could be you could call it unprecedented. there are many things that are unprecedented about the way that we are tackling some of these things. but what we do know is that much of the construct by which these tariffs are being enacted are very much a gamesmanship, if you will. it is certainly not a game for the economies around the world, certainly not for the american economy, the canadian economy and the mexican economy. but there is a there is a mode of thinking or a school of thought right now that much of these policies, many of these

policies being implemented in these stages, are in fact just salvos across each other's bow to get people to come to the negotiating table for whatever reason. now, with regard to the canada and mexico side of things, it will have a much more market impact on the way that we as american consumers start to see the effects permeate through the course of our particular economy with regard specifically to things like oil, natural gas and fossil fuels, hydrocarbons that come across the border from canada. for the produce side of things. it was interesting. you had earlier played a clip of target ceo brian cornell saying that we could see the effect of some of these tariffs within the matter of days, specifically with regard to things like fresh produce, because for many parts of america that are still in winter months, mexican produce is what you can get at this time of year. across those places. those tariffs go into effect almost immediately because as soon as those tariffs get enacted, they start to affect

those products and goods. now, other products may take a little bit more time as they work through the supply chain. so the staged way of implementing these tariffs could be, in fact, a way to maybe cut them off a little bit sooner rather than later. if sides can agree to a particular deal, that's going to be the big question mark right now. how long do they stay in effect? because if they stay in effect too long, what you have are then fears of a prolonged economic slowdown. and that is not something the american economy or consumers want at this point. >> garrett, i'm just wondering, you know, with 25% tariffs on all products from canada and from mexico, what happened to president trump's us m.c.a, which was one of the highlights of his first administration? >> he seems to have thrown it out the window. jose, i mean, these tariffs are in violation of, if not the letter, certainly the principles of these

agreements. and i think, candidly, the way in which these new tariffs have been put in place will make renegotiating it even harder. it's hard to overstate the degree of backlash that this has generated in canada, where you've got canadians booing the us national anthem at sporting events, boycotting american products. the president is almost single handedly responsible for the downfall of the trudeau government. but now there's a backlash, even to that backlash over the way in which the canadians have been treated by the us. and so you have what was one of the signature legislative and diplomatic achievements of trump, one now being summarily undone in trump, two, with no real path to fixing it on the back end. >> hey, dom, can you just bring it back down to basics in some way? dom, when we're talking about the united states established 25% tariffs on, you know, us, canada and mexico and canada saying that they're going to do $155 billion. mexico says they're on sunday. they're going

to be announcing what exactly is a tariff and how is it instituted and how does it affect us? in other words, who pays for this? >> ultimately, who pays for it is the people who buy the goods. ultimately, tariffs. in the mechanics of it. right now, it's not necessarily that the country, right, that that exports those goods, say a china or canada or mexico does it. what happens is the tariffs are placed on some of the companies that bring those goods into the united states, those importers, they are part of the supply chain overall. so it's not specifically like say a chinese company pays for it or a canadian company pays for it. the people who actually bring it across and into the united states for at least part of the supply chain will end up paying for those tariffs. those tariffs are then passed along down the supply chain, based upon the companies who are part of that supply chain. ultimately, it's the choice of the companies, whether or not they end up

passing those costs on. but from a profit margin and business perspective, there's only so much a company in the supply chain can eat up some of these costs before it affects their business model. so unless they pass those costs on, somebody is going to end up paying for them at the end. at the end of the day, it is still the consumer that pays for it. now, to be fair, the policies for tariffs right now are meant to see if they can actually bring supply chains back towards america. it is unclear just how much or how profound those supply chains will be brought back into the united states. and by the way, this is not an overnight or turnkey experiment. this these things take time, manufacturing facilities and everything else. so whether or not this is going to be a longer term effect or how long these tariffs last and how much they affect the consumer is ultimately going to be about whether or not those policies can be negotiated to the benefit of. >> the venmo. sorry to interrupt you. let's go right back to

justin trudeau, if i could. i apologize for the. >> interruptions and growth in both of our countries. we've done big things together on the world stage, as canada and the us have done together for decades, for generations. and now we should be working together to ensure even greater prosperity for north americans in a very uncertain and challenging world. now, it's not in my habit to agree with the wall street journal. but donald, they point out that even though you're a very smart guy, this is a very dumb thing to do. we two friends fighting is exactly what our opponents around the world want to see. and now, to my fellow canadians, i won't sugarcoat it. this is going to

be tough. even though we're all going to pull together because that's what we do. we will use every tool at our disposal. so canadian workers and businesses can weather this storm from expanding e.i. benefits and making them more flexible to providing direct supports to businesses. we will be there as needed to help. but canada, make no mistake, no matter how long this lasts, no matter what the cost, the federal government and other orders of government will be there for you. we will defend canadian jobs. we will take measures to prevent predatory behavior that threatens canadian companies because of the impacts of this trade war, leaving them open to takeovers. we will relentlessly fight to protect our economy. we will stand up for canadians every single

second of every single day, because this country is worth fighting for. le dernier mois recent months have been stressful and in fact, exhausting. >> for all of us. but i. >> believe so. >> we can. >> reassure the leader. >> of canada goes into the french translation of essentially what he just said, including a message directly to donald trump. i want to thank dominic chu, who's been with us. and garrett. the message to donald trump directly from the leader of canada, where he quotes the wall street journal saying, you may be very smart, but this is a very dumb move. i presume that we can expect some reaction from the president or from the white house any minute now. >> yeah, i don't bet on politics, but if i did, that seems like a pretty safe wager. i mean, here you see justin

trudeau using sort of two of the most tried and true tactics to break through to president trump, addressing him directly on television, knowing his remarks are being carried live on television throughout the west wing, and referencing the conservative media outlets that donald trump likes to read. trump and trudeau have had no love for each other since the president's reelection. the president repeatedly joking about trudeau personally about canada becoming the 51st state. and here you see the president or the prime minister has been treated as a bit of a punching bag, punching back. candidly, i don't know how effective it will be at changing the president's mind, but it certainly seems engineered to get his attention. >> yeah, and i mean, prime minister trudeau also, even during the first trump administration, had no kind moments and kind words for the president at different g7 meetings, etc. i want to bring in eddie glaude, a professor at princeton university. he is also an msnbc contributor. and we're

going to talk, eddie, if we could, a little bit about this trade war that is really becoming very hot as of right now. eddie, how do you read this? >> i honestly don't i can't make sense of it. there is a sense in which. donald trump has this belief that. tariffs can be effective. most economists across the ideological spectrum disagree with it. he's going to bring a certain kind of pain to the american people. and i think this is an interesting contrast between what justin trudeau just said and what we're not hearing from from our president. he just told the canadian people that this is going to be rough, that it's going to have an impact on their economy. and then he promised them that he will be there. he will ensure that there won't be gouging. he will ensure that they're going to expand benefits. but what have we heard? we've only heard a dismantling of government agencies. we haven't heard any talk about social, you know, our

obligations to each other, the federal government's responsibility to the american people. instead, what we've seen is just simply an unfolding of pain, of pain and more pain. so i think we have to have to see this as a contrast. i don't know what he's thinking about the tariffs, honestly, jose, but i do know what he's not thinking about. and that is the american people. >> and you know, the responsibility of the executive to the american people. garrett, one of the things that is required is that the president address the nation. and what do you think the white house is looking to achieve in tonight's address to congress? >> i think they're going to defend some of these more controversial steps, jose, including the tariffs, including the pause on aid to ukraine. and i also think they want to tout what they view as the early successes of the president's first 40 some odd days. i've been told to expect a heavy dose of discussion about the border and the slowing to a trickle of illegal immigration across the

southern border. the president, you know, said repeatedly during the campaign he thought that was the single most important issue to american voters. i think they believe now it's his single biggest success that he's had so far. i also think you're going to hear a fair amount about doge, about the effort to cut government spending and the federal workforce. that could be much more controversial, especially given the setting. but elon musk will be in attendance, and the president and his team understand full well that this has been a subject of fascination candidly across the country and something they want to claim credit for to the degree that there are achievements worthy of credit there. >> yeah. and eddie, you know, there is so much division in our country. and that is something that unfortunately is not new. but is there anything you think that the president could do or say tonight to turn back the tide of division in our country? >> you know, actually, jose, i think that's wishful thinking. donald trump traffics in

division. he stokes grievance. and he in some ways in stoking that grievance. he makes political hay out of it. right. that's that's his fuel. so i suspect that he won't be speaking to the american people. he will be speaking to his base. he will in so many ways. it will be a spectacle. it will be a television event. and so our task, i think, is to kind of kind of pierce the noise and try to see exactly what he's up to. but i don't think we're going to come out of this in any way, in any shape, form or fashion. jose closer. coming together, the divisions will harden because of what he will say and what he has done. >> garrett hogan, eddie glaude, i thank you both very much. up next, white house officials tell nbc news the president is halting billions in military aid to ukraine. what's the reaction from congress? i talked to congressman mike quigley, co-chair of the ukraine caucus,

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>> what the president has said very clearly about our ukraine policy is that he wants the ukrainians to come to the negotiating table. we want the ukrainians to have a sovereign and an independent country. we think the ukrainian troops have fought very bravely. but we're at a point here where neither europe nor the united states nor the ukrainians can continue this war indefinitely. >> and just last hour, president zelenskyy posted this statement on social media that reads in part, quote, none of us wants an endless war. ukraine is ready to come to the negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer. my team and i stand ready to work under president trump's strong leadership to get a peace that lasts. joining us now, nbc's julie sirkin on capitol hill. and david ignatius, foreign affairs columnist for the washington post and an msnbc contributor. julie, how are lawmakers reacting to this latest move by the white house? >> well. >> republicans in general. >> are walking a. >> tightrope of trying not to make trump angry, but also

trying to stick to their positions, especially when it comes to ukraine. i was talking to a bunch of senate republicans last night, many of whom were very supportive of ukraine, voted for additional aid to ukraine last spring when this issue came up, and we're a little bit bewildered about news of a potential pause. for example, we spoke to senator susan collins. she's up in 2026. i say that because certainly there are political calculations at play here with how far they go in criticizing any move that the administration makes on ukraine. she is somebody who is a top republican on the appropriations committee. she had her hand directly in appropriating the funds for ukraine, specifically, the last time congress passed an aid package there, which, by the way, part of that money was used to replenish the u.s. military stockpile itself. here's what susan collins had to tell us last night about this news. >> this is a. >> critical time for ukraine. >> and i manage the ukraine supplemental last year that

provided additional help to ukraine. and i do not think we should be pausing our efforts. >> now, it's important to note that, as i've been asking and trying to figure out exactly where this pot of money is coming from, what this pause exactly means. republicans on the hill don't even have a clear answer. there wasn't some kind of previous warning to the hill that this was going to happen, even those that were squarely involved in this funding. meanwhile, in general reaction after that oval office meeting, you heard from republicans like senator thom tillis, for example, who recently came back from a bipartisan trip to the country. they are all careful not to blame trump, to say that he is still the best person who can potentially make a peace deal happen. but they also squarely expressed the blame that russia was the aggressor in this situation, that it is putin to blame. and i think they are balancing those two issues now on a whole different topic here, government funding, which is up at the end of next week. that is a huge issue that we're probably going to hear a little bit more about today. we just confirmed my colleague melanie zanona and

i are reporting that some of those cr skeptics, the continuing resolution that republicans are eyeing now, that stopgap measure that would continue, essentially last year's funding, those same levels through the end of this year. republicans in the house freedom caucus, for example, typically don't vote for that piece of legislation. this time around, though, we know that they will be meeting at the white house tomorrow with president trump. he will try to convince them to support it. and we know that he is certainly convincing as he has been in the past. jose. >> julie sirkin on capitol hill, thank you very much. david, how do you see? what do you make of the shift we are seeing in both how the us is approaching ukraine, how it's also been speaking to russia. >> so. >> jose, i think it's. >> obvious from the white house. >> statements and actions. >> that president. >> trump is trying. >> to compel ukraine into accepting the. framework that trump is developing with russia for.

>> these negotiations. >> going into a negotiation, you want your allies. and ukraine has been an ally of the united states in a profound way over the last three years. you want your allies to be strong so that they can negotiate from a position of strength, rather than a position of desperation, cutting off military aid at the very moment that you want the negotiations to begin is an especially harsh, and i would say, unwise thing to do, because it makes the negotiation unequal. the trump's pressure on ukraine, the pause and other, other pressure over the last week has had its effect. the statement from president zelensky that was issued to just hours ago that you just read as we introduced this segment, is a very significant concession. he is essentially saying, i'm ready to begin the negotiations on your terms. i'm ready to halt

operations both in the in the air, at sea, which is a particular threat to the russian fleet. i'm prepared to sign the minerals deal immediately. essentially everything that trump wanted. as of last friday, zelensky is now prepared to give. and he's saying, thank you, mr. president, for giving us the javelins back in. in 2017. the incidents in the oval office on friday were regrettably, he doesn't exactly apologize, but it's pretty close. so i think you can see just in the matter of a day, the effect that the white house cut off of military aid has had. >> and i'm just wondering, there seems to be very clearly a shift in the axis of influence in the world after president trump has, has gotten back to the white house. you know, it wasn't just symbolic that the first conversation that the united states has with russia after, you know, years was in riyadh

with the foreign minister of saudi arabia on that table and then the second one in turkey. how do you interpret this, david? >> so if you read the commentary from russia, it's the equivalent of high fiving among the leadership and the kremlin. it's almost as if they can't believe their good luck. there's been talk from russian spokesmen about the end of the collective west. the statement from the kremlin spokesman, dmitry peskov two days ago that russian and us views are now in, in near alignment. how extraordinary the kremlin is, in effect, saying we see trump siding with us, aligned with us at a period where the future of europe is going to be at stake. so it's an

extraordinary shift. the pushback from our european allies. there's still a nato. so these are our nato allies has been extraordinary. they're really worried. they're frightened about putin. they're worried about trump abandoning them. so they're doing everything they can scrambling to have independent power. but it is a moment, as you said, where the sort of fundamentals of, of how the world works, the geopolitical alignments do seem to be shifting. >> david ignatius, always a pleasure to see you. i thank you very much for your time. joining us now is democratic congressman mike quigley of illinois. he is a member of the house appropriations committee and co-chair of the congressional ukraine caucus. congressman, it's always a pleasure to see you. i thank you for your time. what's your reaction to all of this, starting with the decision by the president of the united states to essentially pause assistance and military aid to ukraine? sure. >> and if i may, i just want you

to know it was an honor to serve with your brother. and our thoughts are with you. and your family. >> means the world to me. congressman, thank you for that. sure. well, look. >> i think. >> we're fundamentally. >> a different country than we were just weeks ago. >> we are. alone in the world. it's fair to ask if we have any allies, any friends. we go back to fdr's last inaugural, where he told us in foreign policy, if you want a friend, you've got to be one who considers us a friend. if not now, from the talking points coming out of the kremlin, maybe. maybe putin does. so it's a scary time for us. you know, it's all the reasons we support ukraine, all the reasons we fought the second world war and that new world order, that democratic world order that kept us safe under a democratic umbrella. i think it's dead. and frankly, the

reagan doctrine is dead. even among my friends in the republican party. >> those results of the second world war were yalta and potsdam and so many other meetings where much of europe was decided by the three world powers, although really at the time there were only two. but congressman, how do things end here? do you think? >> well, look, putin's just been given a great gift. ultimate leverage. he has four times the force. he has north koreans help. he has treated his troops like cannon fodder. so he must know now. there's no pressure on him to negotiate in any way. the president has questioned zelensky's legitimacy. legitimacy? but not the tyrant putin. so putin must be thinking, well, if i negotiate, it's going to be negotiating toward what anyone would call a russian victory. you know, where

are the security assurances or where's holding putin accountable for the war crimes returning tens of thousands of kids who were kidnaped? you know, and all the building of ukraine that's going to be necessary. so, look, it's a tough day. i'm hoping those republicans who have spoken out will use whatever leverage they have with the administration to move toward a more reasonable deal. >> and so, congressman, this all comes as the president is set to deliver his joint address to congress. are you planning on attending? what do you think? >> yeah. you know, i would lean on going normally because there are norms. you know, even if we disagree with someone, we go to listen to them. but this is a president tearing at the very fabric of our country, our democracy here and abroad. and i also, we seem to be forgetting. i was in the chambers on january 6th when the president sicked

20,000 people there to commit a violent coup where police officers died. and then he pardoned those responsible. so you'll have to forgive me. i can't accept that. and it's part of the norms. i can't be in the room with someone who has done such horrible things, and, frankly, continues to do so. >> and, congressman, right now, you know, we were just referencing that with julie sirkin. we're ten days away from what could be a cut off for the government to continue in existence. i mean, a government shutdown in ten days. democratic lawmakers are pushing for constraints on musk's efforts to make those cuts to government programs. do you support shutting down the government over this? >> i never support shutting down the government, but i'm for using every bit of leverage i have, right? i mean, there's polls that show that democrats

aren't doing enough. all i have is my voice i'm using here and my vote. so look, there's a heck of a lot to bring back. and also, think about it this way. fool me once. shame on you. why would we trust this president? that he would actually spend the money when he's in open conflict with article one? that he controls the power of the purse. so, look, if they want to talk, they want to negotiate, they want to compromise. fine. but we're a long way from the reality of that situation. just because of the way this president has misbehaved. >> congressman mike quigley, i thank you very much for your time. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> sure. up next, we'll go live to mardi gras in new orleans, where the good times are rolling a little different this year due to severe weather. we'll talk about that. plus, the top issues we're watching for tonight when president trump addresses a joint session of congress. joint session of congress. you're watching jose diaz-balart ugh, when is my allergy spray going to kick in?

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big easy are moving forward as planned, but they are modified. they've been moved up their start times. they are shorter. their routes are being cut short as well. the idea is to get this all out of the way before the bad weather rolls in. but i do want to mention, although right now you can still see it's sunny out here, we're getting some brief wind gusts, and the national weather service already says we are in the middle of a high wind warning. and that was a distinction that officials yesterday said would lead them to call off parades if they went from a high wind watch to a high wind warning. we are in that warning, and at this point, the parades are going on, as have been planned since yesterday when they made the modifications. so we'll be watching to see if there are any last minute updates. officials said there could be, but at this point no indication that they are altering the plans further. meanwhile, in the neighboring community of jefferson parish, just outside of new orleans, they canceled all of their mardi gras celebrations for today, the big parade type events. but it just speaks to what this holiday means to this city, right? both culturally and, of course, from

a tourism and economic perspective, how many people this brings to this city that they are trying to get as much in as possible. and as you can see, jose, we've got hundreds, if not thousands of people out here right now, but we are expecting conditions to potentially deteriorate here later in the day, and we'll be keeping an eye on how that impacts celebrations and safety here in new orleans. jose, back to you. >> jesse kirsch in new orleans, thank you so very much. up next, president trump's joint address tonight to congress comes amid controversial policies and government shakeups. we'll play for you what some trump voters are saying about his actions so far. you're watching jose far. you're watching jose diaz-balart reports when our numbers guy, frank, goes on vacation the deals on the most affordable german-engineered car brand in america get even better. he's coming back! hop in during volkswagen deal days. the deals are in while frank is out. bonus on

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go down to inflation. and other polls show some skepticism with how he's dealing with the federal workforce. i want you to meet someone named zachary lindsey. we actually met him last year on the campaign trail. he is someone who voted for biden in 2020, decided to vote for trump in november. listen to what he told me about one issue that he's somewhat concerned about and watching, especially with the news today about the tariffs. >> i just hope. >> they. >> don't last, because i think that's the reason. >> why. >> they, the fed didn't lower its interest rates, is because they said that tariffs might be coming and that hurts everyone with the borrowing you know. so we kind of want those to go down. but inflation is not going down. so it's a rough call i think tariffs can scare countries into doing what you want. but it's how long and how much will this hurt. because i think it will hurt. >> you heard that similar nuance when he was referencing what we saw last week in the oval office, with president zelenskyy

saying that that's not normal, but he wants to see where this all lands. and i think that's the tone that you're getting from a lot of people who backed donald trump in november. >> shaq brewster, i thank you so very much. and joining us now for more democratic, former democratic congresswoman val demings and former republican congressman carlos curbelo. it's a full florida team this morning. but carlos, i want to ask you first. and, you know, hearing what shaq was listening from some of the voters that voted for the president, it seems as though for the most part, there is a wait and see attitude, but still giving him some more time. well, that's right jose. >> there has. >> been. >> a lot. >> of change. >> in these first. >> few weeks of the administration, and i think. what donald trump needs. >> to do. >> tonight is channel a. >> little bit. >> of bill clinton. >> explainer in chief. >> so much is changing. >> so. >> rapidly, and a lot of americans, especially those who aren't part of the president's coalition. maybe independents who voted for him but maybe didn't vote for him in 2020. they need to understand from him what exactly is he doing? what

is the plan for tariffs? >> what is the plan. >> for reshaping the federal government? it's been happening at a very rapid pace, a little chaotic, certainly controversial. and i think some people are apprehensive. on the other hand, there's policies like immigration where i think he clearly has the country behind him and he can go on offense. but when it comes to some of these issues that represent big changes, ukraine, that's another one, right? big change shift in american policy towards ukraine. the president really has to do a good job tonight of explaining what he's doing, what the plan is to give people some comfort. >> and i mean, val, the wall street journal, for example, reports that republicans are worried the same economic factors that helped trump win the election could come back to hurt him. if costs remain high. or maybe these costs actually go up because of the tariffs, etc. is that something you think that the president could get back into his territory? >> well, let. >> me say i really like the

florida team. it's great to see both of you. and look, president trump out of his own mouth during the campaign, said on day one, i will immediately lower prices. those were his words on things like groceries, electricity, insurance. i don't think he ever had any intentions, carlos, to do that, but he knew that that was the hook. people were concerned about the cost of groceries. we certainly don't hear him talking much about that anymore. but yeah, i do believe he will talk about it tonight because he needs to. the sad part is, i believe that tonight will be a complete waste of time because the president is not serious about governing. he's serious about lining his pockets and the pockets of his rich friends. now, if i was still in congress, i would be there tonight. yep. tradition is a part of it. but more importantly, i think during these troubling times, i would hope that maybe some people from

florida would tune in because i was attending or people from my district so they could actually hear the buffoonery and the continued untruths coming out of the president's mouth about saying promises that he made. >> you know, i was i'm just referring now to a letter that to democrats, actually, by house minority leader hakeem jeffries calling on his colleagues to attend trump's address. we were just speaking with congressman from illinois, democrat, who is saying he would not be attending the address. why do you see that? in your case, you would say you would attend it. how is that line to be handled? >> well. >> let me say this under these crazy times, i believe that my former colleagues at democrats in the house and the senate can do whatever the heck that they want to do, but i think that we

can never fail to clearly communicate whether they're there or not. yeah, i would go, but whether they're there or not, they need to continue to communicate to the american voters, to those less engaged voters and restore trust in the democratic party. we have to seize every opportunity. but i do think that being in the house, listening to the complete lack of a plan that the president will demonstrate tonight and communicating, being there, witnessing it, hearing it, and then going out and communicating where the promises, promises made, promises broken. i think democrats play a major role in that. and if i may, jose, what we'll hear tonight is that the country was broken. it's biden's fault. trump is the only one who can fix it. things are better than they've ever been. tariffs are a good thing. vladimir putin should be able to do what he wants to do because he has absolute power, just like president trump is trying to

get. and zelensky started the war and vladimir putin wants peace. and then he'll make fun at some people because that's what small people do. so i really believe that tonight will be a complete waste of time. but yeah, i would be in my seat to witness it for myself. >> carlos, there's been some pushback. we're seeing it, for example, in some republican town halls. do you think this is going to be something that is going to continue, or is this just part of the regular democratic process under, as val says, the most unusual times? >> on reforming the government? jose, it's going to depend on how the president and his team frame it. i think a lot of people in the country are for making government more efficient, making government more productive, cutting waste. however, if the appearance is that they're being overly aggressive, that they're bullying or badgering federal employees, then that could backfire. and we know elon musk

has received most of those attacks for now. but if the president isn't careful, that could start spilling over into him. >> val demings and carlos curbelo, thank you both so very much. and tonight, 6 p.m. eastern, my colleagues, ari melber and jen psaki preview president trump's joint address to congress right here. and then at 8 p.m, we'll join rachel maddow for the team as well, coverage of the speech and to break down its impact at home and abroad. special coverage begins tonight, 6 p.m. eastern, 3 p.m. pacific on msnbc. and before we go this morning, i'd like to share wit and sho you something that happened on the floor of the house of representatives yesterday, congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz and members of the florida delegation speaking about and honoring my late brother, lincoln. >> lincoln was a. >> fierce patriot. >> he championed many. >> issues important. >> to. our community, our country and our continent. >> but few, if any, fought any harder for a free and democratic

cuba, whether as a democrat or later as a republican. he was always a guiding light in this fight for freedom in cuba and around the world. i'm so grateful i was able to serve with him for six years, and then continue our work with his brother and me, romano, mario and al mismo tiempo. at the same time. he was exactly who you wanted in your corner, because he was a fierce fighter who put principle over politics. >> that wraps up the hour for me. thank you congresswoman. thank you to all that expressed. such lovely comments. really means the world to all of us. i'm jose diaz-balart. thank you for the privilege of your time. christina ruffini picks up with more news right now. >> and right. >> now on msnbc. >> president trump. >> ramps up. >> his. >> trade wars on. >> all fronts. >> ahead of. >> a speech. >> this evening before a joint session of. cs