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at 9 p.m. on amc, as well as amc plus actor and executive producer zahn mcclarnon and actress jenna elfman. thank you both. >> thank you. >> we're looking forward to seeing it. and that does it for us this morning. thank you for tuning in. we'll see you again here tomorrow morning. jose diaz-balart picks up msnbc's coverage right now. >> and right now on msnbc. full steam ahead. president trump pushing his agenda in a roller coaster 100 minute speech to congress. >> america is back. >> and our. >> country will be. woke no longer. i look at the democrats in front of me, and i realize there is absolutely nothing i can say to make them happy, or to make them stand or smile or applaud. >> plus president trump. shout out to elon musk in the presence of fired federal workers axed by
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doge. also ahead, the democratic reaction that spanned from signs to shouts. we'll speak with a congressman who was there last night on his party's strategy. and later trade war reversal. the new development one white house official is teasing that calming roil markets, at least for now. good morning. 10 a.m. eastern, 7 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz balart in for ana cabrera reporting from new york this morning. we begin with a defiant president trump vowing he's just getting started in a nearly two hour long address before congress. he basked in republican support, leaned into controversy and taunted his political opponents. >> i returned to this chamber tonight to report that america's momentum is back. our spirit is back. our pride is back. so
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democrats sitting before me for just this one night, why not join us in celebrating so many incredible wins for america? my fellow americans, get ready for an incredible future, because the golden age of america has only just begun. >> the democratic response ranged from shouting congressman al green escorted from the chamber to another member, holding a sign that read this is not normal, as trump entered the chamber until it was ripped out of her hands. joining us now from the white house is nbc's aaron gilchrist, and our melanie zanona is on capitol hill. aaron, good morning. what's the assessment from the white house today on how things went last night. >> well, jose, the white house is feeling good about the president's speech last night. the white house press secretary saying that he owned the moment. and it's been described within the administration as a speech that was powerful and intense, one that they believe where the president was able to talk about all the things that they wanted
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the american people to be able to hear from him, the things that he views. as successes in his first six weeks in office. we, of course, heard him touch on a lot of social sort of culture war issues, some policy issues as well, not really any new proposals, policy proposals out of this speech last night that you noted lasted about an hour and 40 minutes. but of course, the president did talk about the hundreds of executive orders that he's already signed since taking office, addressing things like transgender athletes. he blasted dei programs, eliminated them in the federal government, and many businesses around the country are following suit. >> with that. >> he said that wokeness. is gone as a result of him taking office. there were, of course, other issues that he addressed. he asked congress about funding more efforts toward deportation and border security. he asked congress to fund. >> an effort. >> to build a missile defense. system for the united states. when it came. to economic
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issues, the president did talk a little bit about that, but didn't go into great details. we know that when he was campaigning, he said that lowering prices for people at the grocery store was. something that he was going to be doing immediately. he didn't really address that in his remarks last night, although he did talk a little bit about the economy and some things that he does want to see get done quickly. i want you to hear a little bit of what he had to say. >> and in the near future, i want to do what has not been done in 24 years, balance the federal budget and the next phase of our plan to deliver the greatest economy in history is for this congress to pass tax cuts for everybody. they're in there. they're waiting for you to vote. >> so tax cuts for everybody. he said he wanted to make sure that there were no taxes on tips, on overtime and on social security. and of course, as you pointed out, one of the big observations from last night was what the president did say about the work that elon musk is doing and the work that doge is doing,
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pointing out that they're saving billions of dollars from waste and fraud, although he did not address all the federal workers who have been fired and sent to unemployment lines as a result of the work that musk is doing. >> melanie, meanwhile, what's the democratic leadership in the house saying about their party's response last night? >> well, in a. >> statement after the speech, hakeem jeffries called it the most divisive. >> speech in american politics. >> but he. >> did not address. >> the. >> behavior of his own members. and heading. into the speech, i reported how hakeem jeffries and other democratic leaders. >> had encouraged their. >> members not to disrupt, not to make a scene and to be on their best behavior. >> but that is not. >> exactly what happened. right out of the gates, there were some. >> disruptions and. >> fireworks. >> and perhaps the most memorable moment of the night. >> came from. >> al green. >> a. >> democrat from texas. >> he stood up early on, was waving his cane around and said, president trump, you do not have a mandate. >> to. >> cut medicaid. and after refusing. >> to sit. >> down. >> he was kicked out of the chamber. let's watch. >> that moment.
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>> that's your warning. >> mr. green. >> take your seat. >> take your seat, sir. >> take your seat. >> finding that members continue to engage in. >> willful and. >> concerted disruption of proper decorum, the chair now directs the sergeant at arms to restore order. remove this gentleman from the. >> chamber. >> so just a very. >> extraordinary moment there. and al. >> green, we should remind. >> people. >> is one of the leading democrats. >> who is trying to file impeachment articles. >> in this new. >> session of. >> congress against donald trump. >> so he has been very outspoken critic of donald trump. >> but it. wasn't just him. >> there were. >> scores of democrats, particularly. >> from the. >> congressional progressive caucus, who were holding up. >> signs and. >> patterns throughout the speech. and there were several democrats. who stood up, took off their. >> jackets. >> revealed shirts that said resist. >> on the back, and walked. >> out of the. >> chamber mid-speech. >> in protest. >> so you. >> can't. >> imagine that the democratic
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leadership is. >> very happy. >> behind the scenes. >> with some of their own members. for going off. >> message here. >> and meanwhile, republicans. >> are. >> seizing on this with the. >> house freedom. >> caucus saying they're going. >> to bring. >> a. >> censure censure. >> resolution to formally. >> reprimand al green. >> on the house floor. >> with speaker mike. >> johnson saying he. >> fully supports that effort. >> aaron gilchrist and melanie zanona, thank you both so very much. for more, i want to bring in jake sherman, co-founder of punchbowl news and msnbc political contributor brendan buck, former aide to speaker ryan and boehner, and former democratic congressman donna congresswoman, i should say donna edwards of maryland. so, jake, let's start with congressman greene being removed. other democrats waving signs, occasionally booing. is that what democratic leadership wanted? >> no. >> not in any way, shape or form. jose and i want to send condolences to you and your family from your about your brother, who i knew a little bit up here. very good man. but in addition to that, let me get back to this, to the speech last night. they wanted no
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disruptions, jose, zero disruptions. they wanted to have trump be the focus and his message be the focus. and to highlight in their estimation jose, the what they think are the bad policies of donald trump. this was anything but that. they had al green waving his cane and standing up and screaming, not listening to the speaker or to authorities until he had to get kicked out of the chamber. they had members hissing and booing at multiple occasions. listen, the state of the union is not the event it used to be when speeches to congress are not the event they used to be. they are. they are reflective of today's politics. but, you know, the leadership sent out a message kind of late yesterday that they should just sit somber during the speech. they didn't really do that. i mean, they did hold up signs. they they again booed and hissed. but i cannot imagine. and i've been getting texts from democratic members about this. there are not many democrats who are happy with how they acted last night, how some of them
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acted last night at this address. >> donna, what do you think voters wanted to see last night? >> well, you know, i mean, i have to tell you, it was pretty startling to look at the house floor. >> i understand the frustration that. many democrats. feel with this president. >> and i think jake is right. i mean. it has the. >> the state of the union has changed so tremendously. >> and dramatically over the last. >> several years with many of these protests. there were. protests against joe biden. >> i think for voters, mostly voters. wanted to hear about what their major concern is the economy and around their kitchen table. >> how they're spending. >> their money and how much. things cost at the grocery store. >> and in the economy. and i don't think they got a lot of that. >> sadly, it was a focal point of. >> the campaign, but it. >> certainly was. >> not the focal point of the president's address. last night.
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>> and i think democrats were expressing frustration with that. >> in addition to all. >> of the cuts that have been made that. >> have taken a real. >> sledgehammer to the federal government. >> and, brendan, what do you think the impact is from last night's address? donna was talking about the focal point. what do you think the focal point people will be remembering going forward? >> oh, right. >> it's interesting. >> usually early on in. >> his speech. >> you'd like to. do you. >> have me? >> yeah. sorry. >> yeah. >> usually early on in a speech, you want to focus on the thing that you want people to remember. the most. and because. >> some people will. >> tune out. >> later on. >> here you had. >> a. >> situation where donald. >> trump spent a. significant portion of. >> the early. >> bit of the speech. talking. >> about how he won the election and recounting his electoral college victory. it all felt very self-indulgent, and perhaps not. >> in a.
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>> surprising way. you had. a situation. >> where it was far more. >> spectacle and showmanship. >> over substance. >> i was. >> struck by how little he was actually asking congress to do. usually these speeches. >> are laying out a. >> bold agenda. for what they. >> want congress to accomplish, and this is the beginning of the person's term. and donald trump basically. >> said. >> i want you to keep tax rates where they are. i want you to create a. >> new cops program. >> and some more money. >> for immigration. >> and that was really it. you know. >> i think. >> this. >> is a president who. >> doesn't care a whole. >> lot about the. >> substance and what congress has to do. it was much more about things. that he. >> was able to do. >> much more about tariffs. >> and so. >> if this. >> is a. >> president who's. >> facing a level of weakness on the economy already. >> people questioning. >> whether he's committed to it, i'm. >> not sure that they got a lot of convincing answers that he has a plan for them. >> yeah. and, you know, speaking of the economy and jake, elon musk was in attendance last
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night and the president you know, a shout out to him. here's how that went. >> goes. >> perhaps you've. >> heard of it. >> perhaps. >> which is headed by elon musk who is in the gallery tonight. and any federal bureaucrat who resists this change will be removed from office immediately. because we are draining the swamp. it's very simple. and the days of rule by unelected bureaucrats are over. >> jake, it appears that the trump musk partnership is still going strong. >> still pushing along. >> yes. and elon musk also will be up here tonight at 7 p.m. briefing house republicans on some of these doge cuts. these doge cuts have been become a political lightning rod on
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capitol hill, obviously, between republicans and democrats, but also among republicans, who are some a majority of them are a bit frustrated at how they are not being read into the process, not being read in to what elon musk is slashing or suggesting to slash. and we are jose. i know i sound like a broken record. we are about nine days until the funding deadline, a government shutdown deadline. congress is not matching elon musk's cuts in doge with the spending bill, so the spending bill will spend money in places that doge has suggested to cut. speaker mike johnson says he needs more time to review the cuts and to quantify them, and then he will work them into the 2026 spending bills, which will be completed next year. >> and donna, we have new reporting that republicans are being advised by the chair of the national republican congressional committee to avoid town halls. after the response at some of the town halls to doj's cuts. but vice president vance is hitting the road today to sell the trump agenda. they'll visit the southern
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border. how do you think that strategy is holding up? and do you think, donna, that this pressure at some town halls could be increasing going forward? >> well, i mean, you have to remember that with the american people, these doge cats and elon musk in particular. >> are. >> not very popular. and the more that people find out about them, the more unpopular. >> they become. >> and so i think when the president aligns himself with elon. musk and with the with doge and these cuts, that it is not playing well. and that is. >> why you're seeing these really sort of. >> organic showing of people at town hall meetings. and you can't avoid your constituents. >> you can. >> not hold a town hall, but it doesn't mean that you can avoid your constituents. and i think people will continue to show up where members of. >> congress show up. >> and it will be very disruptive because the cuts are not not popular, and you're not going to be able to deflect. >> that by sending the.
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>> vice president. >> to the. >> southern border. >> jake sherman, brendan buck and former congresswoman donna edwards. i thank you so very much. appreciate it. and, brendan, i'm sorry there was a little bit of a delay in in audio. so i apologize to you, but breaking news at this hour from the supreme court, the high court rejecting the trump administration's request to avoid paying $2 billion to contractors of usaid, the agency in charge of foreign aid. joining us now, former u.s. attorney joyce vance. joyce, it's great seeing you. this was aa54 decision. what's your reaction to this? >> well, it's important to understand what this is and isn't. it's an early procedural skirmish. in this case. the district court entered a temporary restraining order. and it simply says that while the court is deciding larger issues, the status quo has to stay in place. that status quo involves ongoing payments. the case is brought by an alliance that works for aids vaccines, also by
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journalists in development. and they say if those dollars don't continue to flow, they'll be irreparably damaged. so at least for now, the supreme court has said those payments have to continue. but there's more to come. the district court will now have to decide whether to enter what's called a preliminary injunction. that would require the government to continue to make payments while the litigation wends its way through the courts. >> so and thank you for explaining this whole early procedural motion, because what are the steps? and so it just seems as though, well, now that it's reestablishing that aid. but but are there possible roadblocks to the reestablishment of the aid. what what's the what are the next steps? >> right. one of the arguments that the plaintiffs make is that it's difficult to start and stop. it hinders delivery of services. but the four justices on the supreme court, justice alito, wrote the dissenting opinion, who say that the court erred by ordering the aid
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resumed, said this is really less like an early procedural stage in the case and more like a somewhat later stage, because the government is being forced to pay out money that it won't be able to regain after the fact. and their objection to this ruling hints at what comes next. there will, in fact be a re you know, there will be a re-up on these payments. they will go out. services will continue. that provides stability abroad for many of these important programs. but the point remains, and this is what the litigation will focus on in this next stage, the preliminary injunction, should the government have to continue to make payments while the litigation over whether trump's orders ending it are legal or not? should those payments continue to flow? >> joyce vance, thank you so much. appreciate it. up next, we'll speak with democratic congressman john garamendi of california about his party's response to the president's speech last night. plus, nbc news watched the address with
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slotkin delivering the democratic response to the president's address to congress last night, accusing the president of ignoring his campaign promises to help the middle class and bring down prices on day one. joining us now is democratic congressman john garamendi of california. congressman, it's always a pleasure to see you. i thank you for your time. what did you think of the senator's response? >> well. >> she's right on. she's absolutely correct. she did miss one of the principal. democratic programs. and that. >> is we're going to. continue the. tax cuts. >> for the working men and. women of america, those that are earning less than $400,000 a year. >> but we are absolutely. >> determined to. do everything we can to stop the giveaway to the billionaire class and the inevitable increase in the national deficit, perhaps as much as. 4 or $5 trillion as a result of that tax giveaway to the billionaire class. they've got to pay their fair share, as does american corporations who
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have also benefited from the 2017. tax cuts that trump ran through congress without one hearing. so here we are. it's going to be a major issue. we're going to fight this fight for the working men and women, the folks that are on the. the truck drivers, the folks that are working construction, the nurses, the teachers. >> and congressman, yesterday, the president, among the many things that he essentially promised was that he was looking forward to balancing the budget. do you think that that's a possibility? >> absolutely not. he and the republicans. >> always talk. >> about the deficit, about balancing the budget. and in fact, that is exactly the opposite of what they did. in 2017 tax cuts. >> they put. >> a 5. >> to $6 trillion addition to the deficit. and they intend to do. exactly the same this time around. it's all happy talk. it does not happen. and in fact,
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the exact opposite has happened. by the republicans, they talk, but they don't walk the talk. >> and how did you see the reaction of democrats at the house yet last night? the democrats. >> decided to be polite and to not engage in demonstrations of one sort or the other. i think, much to the disappointment of press, that really wanted to see some sort of a circus. we did have one of our colleagues did speak out. al green has traditionally done that. he did his thing. he was escorted from the floor. the democrats made a decision that we were going to be polite. and we were. >> tonight, elon musk will meet with house republicans. some of them have been facing pushback from folks about the federal cuts, particularly when it comes to veterans who've lost their jobs. here's trump adviser alina habba talking about that. listen to her comments. >> yeah, you get fired. you get fired when you don't show up to work. you get fired when you are
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taking taxpayer dollars and you're not working for the federal government and you are double dipping. that is this administration. i really don't feel sorry for them. they should get back to work for the american people like president. trump and this administration. >> what do you make of that message, congressman? well. >> it follows very, very directly with trump's own policy with regard to veterans. remember when he was in france for the d-day celebrations? he basically said, well, those are losers. those are suckers. and he was referring to the dead that were in the ground there, and the burial and the cemeteries. it's very, very clear that he has no use for the veterans, although he's certainly willing to give away their particular opportunity. we have written laws here that give veterans the first opportunity at government jobs, and they've taken it, and they have done good service, both when they were in the military, serving this country. and now that they have these government jobs. good for them. we should be honoring
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the veterans. and her comments were totally outrageous. she ought to have a different job, and perhaps she ought to go see what the veterans are actually doing. trump is decimating the government. and hosea, you're familiar with this. he is operating by decree. he is ignoring the normal laws that the actual laws that deal with how you downsize the government, how you restructure the government. there are laws in place. he is doing exactly what maduro is doing in venezuela that is ignoring the constitution, ignoring the laws and operating by decree. that's what a dictator does. he has won 80 some executive orders. those are decrees. those in almost every case override and ignore the law and the constitution. it is. we're on our way to a dictatorship. unless the court and fortunately, the supreme court decision, which you talked about a few moments ago, puts in
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place and empowers the third branch of government to hold trump accountable. >> congressman, i certainly respect your thoughts and comments on their. i would just say that to compare anyone in the united states to nicolas maduro and the regime in venezuela, where hundreds and thousands of people have been tortured and are in political prisons. to compare what has been going on in cuba for 64 years, when literally tens of thousands of people have been forced to leave on inner tubes and rafts and have died in the florida straits trying to reach freedom, i think that that is something that are two different things. i respect your thoughts on that. but when we speak about dictatorships, let's never forget the victims of dictatorship. 64 years in cuba,
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since more than 25 years in venezuela since 1978. in, in in nicaragua. congressman, it's a pleasure to see you always, sir. >> thank you for your comments. we're talking here about the way in which decrees and executive orders operate. >> i thank you for that, sir. it's always a pleasure to see you. breaking news this morning, texas democratic congressman sylvester turner has died. turner was the former mayor of houston, who was just elected to longtime congresswoman sheila jackson lee seat in november. back with us from capitol hill, melanie zanona. melanie, what more do we know? >> yeah. this is. >> some. >> really sad news that we're learning. we're just getting some. >> of. these details. >> my colleague scott wong. >> reported that. >> there was a house democratic meeting this morning, and the democratic leadership informed members. >> during that meeting. >> that the congressman indeed passed away yesterday and that his family has been notified. additionally, the leadership. >> indicated that. >> he appeared to have some sort of medical event yesterday.
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>> in the cannon tunnels. that's one of the. tunnels here on capitol hill. so we're still trying to figure out exactly. >> what. >> happened here. but no doubt this is a. >> huge loss for democrats and congress and the community back home. he had just won this seat back in november. this to fill the seat by the former congresswoman sheila jackson lee. >> so he was a freshman. >> member. >> had only been up here a few months. as you mentioned, he had been a houston mayor. he had. >> served in politics. >> for a long. >> time. prior to that. >> in the. >> state. texas house. so they are going to have to fill that seat going forward. >> of course, it. >> does impact the balance of power. >> but for now, just a. >> very sad. >> moment and some sad news here on capitol hill. >> jose. >> melanie zanona, thank you so very much. up next, president trump defending his tariffs last night, but saying they could cause, quote, little disturbances. could we be seeing a trade war compromise from the white house today? well, we're whhave you always had troublee learninwith your weight?l. me too. discover the power of wegovy®.
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>> 30 past the hour. we're watching the markets this morning after the white house again suggested a compromise could be on the table vis a vis tariffs. take a look at. it's pretty much flat. it's up 56 points. all this to calm the trade war. president trump has been escalating with america's allies. the president defended those tariffs last night before congress. take a listen. >> if you don't make your product in america, however, under the trump administration, you will pay a tariff and in some cases, a rather large one. tariffs are about making america rich again and making america great again. and it's happening and it will happen rather quickly. there'll be a little disturbance, but we're okay with that. it won't be much. >> joining us now is nbc business correspondent brian chung. brian, it's great seeing you. hey, let's start with this whole thing of maybe a little bit of a disturbance. not that much. what does that mean? and what do you think? what? what's wall street taking away from that? >> yeah. well, i mean, look, when it comes to just like the main street message from that, it's pretty a big acknowledgment
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from the president that there could be some pain for everyday american consumers. and this is kind of the largest and widest acknowledgment from the white house that, yeah, prices could increase as a result of this. and by the way, it's not just politicians and economists that are saying that. it's also the companies themselves. we heard from the likes of best buy and target their ceo speaking yesterday, after those 25% tariffs on mexico and canada were put into place, they were saying this is likely going to lead to price increases for consumers, not just on things like electronics, but on grocery prices as well. we import so many fruits and vegetables from mexico. we import grains and potatoes from canada. all of those things could get more expensive, as the companies that import them into the us then have to pass that cost on to consumers. now, on the wall street side of things, they were already pricing in the concern of these tariffs. what was interesting is that we began 2025 off to a hot start in wall street. we're up something like 5% to start the year. all of those gains have essentially been erased. we're basically about flat to where we started 2025 with the recent stock market. >> brian, the commerce secretary, suggested a tariff
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compromise could be on the table today. what do we know? >> yeah, and i think that's the reason why you're not seeing wall street really red today. and that's because howard lutnick did make some commentary suggesting that maybe there could be some sort of compromise. take a listen. >> the president's. >> listening because, you know, he's very, very fair and very reasonable. so i think he's going to work something out with them. it's not going to be a pause. none of that pause stuff. but i think he's going to figure out. >> you do. >> more and i'll meet you in the middle some way. and we're going to probably be announcing that tomorrow. >> so somewhere. >> in. >> the middle will likely be the outcome, the president moving with the canadians and mexicans, but not all the way. >> and that commentary was yesterday. so that presumably would happen today. he spoke, i believe, on bloomberg as well this morning, suggesting that there could be some sort of announcement this afternoon. but jose, what that announcement is, i don't know. we know that the administration has pinned any sort of lifting of these tariffs to progress on fentanyl because of the concern that they have with fentanyl coming into our borders from mexico and canada. what does that compromise look
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like? we don't know, but we'll have to see maybe later on this afternoon. >> what are the metrics that they're asking for? >> right. >> i have no idea. >> and the usmca is essentially dead then. >> well, i mean, look, when it comes to the negotiation on that front, we have to remember usmca was largely something that the first administration put up. so is that something that could be on the table? again, we don't know. but you hear the context of justin trudeau speaking yesterday. that did not sound like the type of conversation or words that would be used in an amicable trade negotiation. >> so any other words of sheinbaum in mexico? exactly. brian, it's great seeing you. thank you very much. we also have reaction to the president's speech from fired federal workers who watched the address alongside nbc's jacob soboroff. here's some of their conversation. >> does anybody feel like they understand better why they were fired after watching the speech tonight? nobody. yeah. okay. let me start with you here. you i said before you were a presidential management fellow. this is a very elite program within the federal government to bring in the best and the brightest. the entire program
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has been terminated after 48 years under democratic and republican presidents. when president trump said about the federal bureaucracy. my administration will reclaim power. >> from. >> this unaccountable bureaucracy, it bugged you in a particular way. how come? >> well, i think for. >> myself. >> being a presidential. management fellow, this is a 100%, you know, merit based program. people coming in are. >> you know, taking jobs that have lesser pay. they want. >> to serve the american public and for you to, you know, blanket statements saying the entire bureaucracy is untamed and, you know, doesn't have any tethering to anything. >> i mean, look at us. we're everyday. >> average americans that just want to serve the american public, and we're not. allowed to do that. >> and you said a large portion of your time was actually responding to congressional inquiries about whether or not the money was being spent appropriately in the case of the housing and urban development department? >> absolutely. we were responding to over 4000 inquiries. and keep in mind, like, these are people we're working with. congressional staffers saying, hey, how can we support you? hey, how can we offer assistance to make sure your grantees, the people on the ground, are getting the funding that they need?
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>> and just to reiterate, so what you're saying is the trump administration canceled the presidential management fellows program. he talked about die, but this was a merit based program. >> when we're in the application process, we're not allowed to give any identifying information. it is 100% merit based. >> let's talk about you were at the us digital service, the precursor to doge. but one of your main focuses was on making the immigration system, including the enforcement system, more efficient. and the president touted all these accomplishments that he said were accomplishments about immigration, but deportations, closing the border. the part that i watched you react to most strongly was when he said, the media and our friends in the democrat party keep saying we need new legislation, we must have legislation to secure the border. but it turned out that all we really needed was a new president. what bugged you so much about that? >> i think the demonization of immigrants in the speech today was as disappointing as it was frightening. and the thing that bothered me is it's a
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multifaceted approach that we need to attack the immigration problem. and it's been an issue over multiple presidents. >> which. >> you yourself have been working on in terms of efficiency. >> definitely part of it are legislative fixes, but the other part. >> are really. >> process and tech improvements. and by. getting rid of the subject matter experts that do this work for decades and the people who have the tech capabilities, and then more importantly, the trust that you build between agencies to actually align and prioritize this work is really, really difficult to see. you can gut something in five minutes, but to get the apparatus back up and running, that might take five years. so it was really disappointing to see some of those comments. >> let's go to alex taylor, who's our geologist. again in the group. we heard president trump talk about something. you work worked excuse me directly on which was critical earth minerals. he said that he was quote expanding critical minerals and rare earths. but he fired you. that's what you were working on? >> yeah. i supported.
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>> active research projects on identifying sources of critical minerals in the us domestically. it bothers me that he's more interested in engaging in neocolonialism to get minerals from other countries, rather than supporting the scientists and the researchers who are aiding the minerals industry. here in america. >> you're talking about greenland. >> and ukraine. >> you also were particularly annoyed by the statement that he made about thousands of federal workers not showing up to the office, because the work that you do and your colleagues do at the u.s. geological survey is not done in the office. it's largely done in the field. >> for many people. yes, the usgs is the most prestigious earth science research institution in the world, and we've been at the office this whole time. we do work in laboratories at the office, but lots of people are in the field. every day we monitor the nation's waterways. we monitor earthquakes, volcanoes and other hazards. we study ecosystems. so our office is our nation's lands. >> up next, president trump
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>> so i think on the military front and the intelligence front, the pause that that allowed. >> that. >> to happen, i think will go away and i think we'll work shoulder to shoulder with ukraine as we have to push back on the aggression that's there. but to put those comments after president trump seemed open to getting peace talks back on track in his speech last night. joining us now is nbc news senior national security correspondent courtney qb and evelyn farkas, former assistant secretary of defense and executive director of the mccain institute. so, courtney, presidents seem willing to, i guess, move forward on that joint venture on on minerals in ukraine. but the pause on military aid and intelligence sharing is now in place. is there a dichotomy there? >> no. i mean, look, the reality is the us was still sending weapons. they were flowing weapons and equipment into
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ukraine. still. in fact, a u.s. defense official told us that when the order came down monday night, about 6 p.m. eastern time, that there was actually aid that was en route to the region at that time that had to be halted, essentially turned around because of this order. but while that was still flowing, it was nowhere near the scope, the scale and the expediency that we have seen over the last three years. the reality is much of the weapons and things that were going in had had virtually had really slowed down. that being said, the white house, the biden or excuse me, the trump administration announcing that they are no, they are pausing the shipment of weapons and equipment and the sharing of intelligence is sending a huge signal to ukraine and to allies around the world. this is appears to be a part of the negotiating tactic, tactic that president trump and those around him are using as a way to get ukraine to the table, to get them to sign this minerals deal. on a practical level, yes,
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ukraine still does need u.s. assistance in the form of weapons and equipment, but european allies are stepping up and trying to fill as much of that gap as possible. and when it comes to intelligence sharing, yes, the united states has been sharing intelligence with them since before the invasion. you'll recall in fall of 2021, when u.s. officials were sitting down with ukrainian officials and saying, look, we are seeing a huge buildup of military along your borders. you need to be concerned about what russia is doing. that has continued apace. in fact, in many cases it has stepped up. but even if the united states is not unilaterally sharing intelligence with ukraine right now, allies are doing so, and the u.s. has allies who the u.s. shares information with that could then send it on to ukraine. so on a day to day basis, ukraine is still getting much of the intelligence they need. a lot of this is really just showing the world that the united states is pausing this right now. >> courtney kuby, thank you very much. so, evelyn, how do you see this? according to saying that maybe it was a it's a part of a
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negotiating tactic. how do you see this? and i guess big picture. how do you think this is playing? >> well, it's playing pretty horribly among people who understand what's at stake. so among our european allies, of course, among the ukrainians, the government officials, but also the soldiers in the field, i would imagine it's playing pretty poorly with our military and the people who have been working for years to help support ukraine in our government. it's i, you know, to the extent that the american people understand it, i don't think it would play very well. i do agree with courtney. it appears to be part of a negotiating plan. but the problem is, all we see is this pressure being put on our ally and on the victim, and we don't see the same pressure being put on russia. and ukraine has said all along they're willing to make a deal. so, you know, it's not necessary to put this kind of pressure on the ukrainians that, frankly, causes a loss of lives. and it's really
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dangerous. if the pause continues. >> now, the fact is that there is there are already a number of sanctions against. it certainly has become, you know, a pariah nation around the world as a consequence of its invasion of ukraine more than three years ago. so i'm just wondering, where does the united states get its authority to be a trusted player among warren warring factions? and does the focus now on ukraine and zelensky specifically tarnish that? >> well, i think you raised an important point, jose. the sanctions on russia are still in place, and as long as they are in place, we are doing something consistent with previous administrations, including the first trump administration to pressure russia. but we're not doing anything new to pressure russia and to bring russia to
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the negotiating table and to make concessions. what we don't know is whether russia is prepared to make concessions. and i think it would be incumbent upon our government to explain to us what it is they think russia is willing to give up, to compromise on why they think that there's a chance for a peace deal, because otherwise this really does look dangerous. and it looks like we're, you know, on the brink of changing sides, even if that's not the case. i think it's incumbent upon the administration to explain more to the american people about what they're what they're doing here. >> yeah. i mean, look, diplomacy is based on talking on being able to speak and to being able to listen to different sides. and you're right. i mean, we know very little about what the russian side has been saying, among other things, because they haven't talked to the, to russia in, in, in, in years. but evelyn, quickly, just the axis of influence i think is changing
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in the world to see the negotiations, the first conversations being carried on in riyadh i think is really significant. >> i think people are really nervous right now that our president wants to align the united states with russia, with autocratic leaders, you know, china, that president trump thinks that he can make some kind of deal and therefore make america more safe when it's actually the inverse. i mean, if we make a bad deal, we're making america weaker and we're putting ourselves in a greater position of danger. >> yeah. evelyn farkas, i always really appreciate your perspective. i thank you very much. next, mayors of some of america's largest cities in the hot seat on capitol hill over sanctuary city policies. we're sanctuary city policies. we're going to take you there live when our numbers guy, frank, goes on vacation the deals on the most affordable german-engineered car brand in america get even better. he's coming back!
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committee for a hearing on sanctuary city policies. republican lawmakers criticizing the leaders of the cities chicago, new york, boston and denver for limiting cooperation with immigration enforcement. the hearing, just hours after the president touted his immigration crackdown in his speech to congress. >> my administration has launched the most sweeping border and immigration crackdown in american history, and we quickly achieved the lowest numbers of illegal border crossers ever recorded. thank you. it turned out that all we really needed was a new president. >> joining us now, nbc news chief capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles. ryan, great seeing you this morning. what have we heard in this hearing so far today? so far. >> what we've seen, jose, is that these democratic mayors from these big cities are not backing down to republicans and
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making the case that their immigration policies, the way that they deal with migrants in their cities, is actually working, and that their cities are much safer than the way that republicans in congress have tried to portray them to the general public. listen to how denver mayor mike johnston responded in his opening statement. >> when those busses kept on coming, denver made a choice as a city not to hate each other, but to help each other, not to turn on each other, but to turn to each other. it wasn't perfect, and it required sacrifice from all of us, but in the end, denver came out stronger and closer than we were before. >> we must not let mischaracterizations and fearmongering obscure the reality that chicago's crime rates are trending down. we still have a long way to go, but sensationalizing tragedy in the name of political expediency is not governing. it's grandstanding. >> beautiful. >> and you heard from chicago's
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mayor there at the end. getting back to denver's mayor, what mike johnson was talking about was, of course, a texas mayor, greg abbott's effort to take migrants that had come over the border into texas and then put them on busses and ship them to these big cities that were run by democratic mayors all across the country. and that's how his city dealt with them. now, so far, we're just now getting into the question and answer period of this hearing, jose. but you're seeing these democratic mayors make the point that in the aggregate, these migrants contribute to the city. they are not a deterrent. so we'll see republicans push them on that throughout the course of this hearing. >> ryan nobles on capitol hill, thank you very much. in our next hour special coverage, we're going to speak with senator tina smith of minnesota and fired federal workers who accompanied her to president trump's address to congress last night, what to congress last night, what that worker made of his you know what's brilliant? boring. think about it. boring makes vacations happen, early retirements possible, and startups start up.
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