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president. >> putting the. >> american public on notice that the upheaval. >> they've seen over the. >> past six weeks is just a preview of what's to come. >> so what's that going to. >> look like? >> communication breakdown. >> after pausing. >> military aid. >> top trump officials confirm. >> the u.s. >> has also stopped. >> sharing. >> intelligence with ukraine. what could that mean for the war effort? and if everything going on in the world. >> makes you feel like you need a drink? >> check out the. empty store. >> shelves in canada, where. >> they've pulled american liquor, with kentucky bourbon makers saying trump's tariff war is cutting in on their business. so much to get to. >> but we begin. >> with republicans under heavy pressure from the president to support his massively disruptive agenda, even as the american public's patience may be. wearing thin. while the president insisted just last night that america is on the verge of a new golden age, sagging polls, the recent sell off on wall street and the outrage at recent republican town halls may tell a different

story. democrats see an opportunity if they can take advantage of it. >> we're going to push back aggressively. >> against donald. >> trump, his administration and the extreme maga republican agenda until we can end this national nightmare and bring the american dream to life. for every single person in this country. >> everything the american. >> people put their trust in him to do. >> it is. a betrayal. it is a betrayal. >> so let's not talk about decorum. when the plot is. exposed and reiterated every single day. >> i want to bring in nbc's kelly o'donnell, who's covering the white house. >> julie sirkin is. >> on capitol hill with me in studio. former florida republican congressman david jolly and msnbc political analyst and michael hadaway, former communications director for house minority leader hakeem jeffries. okay, congressman,

judging by the number of standing o's, i kept looking to see if somebody counted them. i didn't see a number, but there were a lot of them. republicans are 100% on board with what the president was saying last night. but the other side of that is we clearly know they're getting an earful, at least some of them are from their constituents. so the wall street journal said trump is testing americans appetite for upheaval. is he sure? >> yeah. look, republicans. >> are entirely. >> on. >> board, which also. >> means republicans. >> own it and they own this environment. >> and i think. >> two things where last. >> night may not have. really landed. and i think we're going to see. >> over the. >> next 60 or 90 days what happens. the american people fundamentally. want a government. >> that works. >> and they want an economy. >> that grows. and what what donald trump and elon musk are doing with doge is not just laying off and firing federal employees. they're disrupting federal services. and at some point, the consumers of those federal services are going to say, wait a minute, i didn't sign up for this. and then secondly, donald trump's economy, it's now his economy is

teetering on a real backslide here. the notion of stagflation now in conversation is absolutely real based on the atlanta fed's model. we'll see if that occurs or not. but inflation going up and seeing the economy in negative growth territory. if we see that donald trump can no longer blame joe biden for that. and frankly, donald trump is contributing to the economic uncertainty with tariffs and some of the other moves he's making. so what we saw last night was a lot of truthful hyperbole, donald trump's words from his own book. you can call it lies if you want. this was not the most successful hundred days in the history of the country. it was anything but. he's disrupted the most important security alliance on the world stage. ultimately, the american voters, as consumers of this administration, are going to realize the government is not working for me. and i'm no longer economically confident like i was when joe biden left office. republicans in the chamber that were giving them the standing ovations are going to own that as much as the president does. >> so, michael, if you buy the thesis that patients of the american people is wearing thin or at least starting to wear

thin, what do democrats do about it? >> they have to. >> tell the story. donald trump came in and. >> said he'll drive down. >> inflation and drive down prices. he's done. >> the opposite. our retirement. >> accounts are in the freefall. you got the price. >> of. >> eggs going up, the price of gas going. >> up, he said. that's because of joe biden. >> of course, but that doesn't matter. he's owned this economy because he said that i have a mandate and they control the government. i think voters are smart, and they're smart enough to know that this is donald trump's economy. when they go to the store every day and gas, sorry, eggs are $11. that is problematic. you fill up the tank, you can't afford 4 or $5 gas. and that is the real issue here. >> so kelly, where is the administration putting its focus now? well, certainly, chris, part of what they want. >> to do is. >> things like getting the tax cuts that the president talked. about renewed in a permanent way. he laid some of that out last night. one of the things that was striking. about his extensive address to congress, the longest in in history that we've been recording these, is that he talked very little in

the grand sweep of his remarks about what he needs congress to do. there were a few instances of that. but so often this kind of a speech in the chamber. speaking to both parts of congress, the senate and the house is imploring them to go along with the president to get more done. there was some of that, but not as much as we typically would hear from presidents in many ways. the president was stitching together his first term and his new term just weeks into office and touting achievements. part of that is certainly setting the stage for framing his own time in office. he did that extensively. here's a part of how he took credit and claimed credit for many of the things that he is doing, and tried to put a stamp on what he wants to do going forward. >> it has been nothing but swift and unrelenting action to usher in the greatest and most successful era in the history of

our country. and what makes it even more impressive is that do you know who number two is? george washington? how about that? how about that? >> so through all of that, you get a sense of how the president has a very expansive view of executive power. and while he was happy to have the applause and to use the democrats to call them out and to highlight the disruptions, he very much is emphasizing that he has a central role in american life now, and that he believes he can use that force of both voter support and certainly the support he's seeing in congress to try to continue to make sweeping changes and to claim big credit for them. chris, thanks so much for that, kelly. all right, julie, take us inside capitol hill. we know conservative republicans are meeting with the president today to talk about his agenda and government funding. what are they walking into? >> well, they're. >> walking into. >> the meeting with an expectation. >> that when they're walking.

>> out of the. >> white house, they better come around to supporting the year long, clean, continuing resolution that many of them have never voted for during their time in congress. these are fiscal conservatives. these are members of the house freedom caucus. so many of them, like chip roy, for example, are vehemently opposed to any kind of continuing resolutions. this time around, though, we've already heard a softening in their tone when it comes to that. and it's in large part because republicans have a strategy of trying to ice senate democrats out of this equation. we've been hearing for the last two weeks that house democrats, including the top appropriator in the house, rosa delauro, saying that she will not vote for a bill like this. they want to get certain guarantees, for example, that the administration will actually spend the funds that congress appropriates. well, to get around that and to get around johnson's very razor thin majority, what the speaker is trying to do is to work with trump and to work with administration to force these house conservatives to support the cr, so that when it makes its way to the senate, they don't really need to rely on any democrats. of course, in the

senate, they require 60 vote threshold. you're going to need democratic support regardless, which will put them in a bind. democrats historically not in favor of shutting down governments. and of course, these conservatives, what they were really looking for is that the cuts be codified in any such continuing resolution. it seems like the president had convinced them to walk off of that ledge. and when it comes to dodge, by the way, i should note that elon musk had just entered the senate republican lunch to talk about his process on the cuts tonight. he'll also be meeting with house republicans to address some of their concerns. so a lot of moving parts here, chris. >> always moving parts. thank you so much for that, julie. but congressman, can republicans navigate that in any way if you've you've been there, if you have a bunch of constituents and they're not happy with you, they're not happy with the way government is going. they're not happy with the way their lives are going. >> right. >> what's your option here? >> and we haven't seen the worst yet. i just i want to add a coda to what julie is saying, because this is important about trying

to get the budget done. the budget is six months overdue and annual budget. october 1st is the start of the fiscal year. this is march 1st. this republican congress has failed already at governing. and they're about to say, okay, we'll just we're going to put a band-aid on it now. >> but to be fair, the band-aids have been pretty frequent in recent years. it's like, oh, it's like the deadline is a suggestion. >> it used to be october 1st. the fiscal year got pushed to christmas. right. and then it was january. now it's march and they still don't have an answer. and oh, by the way, this fiscal year, the deadline is september 30th and they haven't even started that process yet. what does all that mean? i think there's been such a focus on the firing and the laying off of federal workers. but as as important as that is, if you're an american voter, you you don't necessarily care that the federal workforce is getting laid off. in some ways, you might think that's a good thing, right? fewer federal employees. what you care about is, is the deliverables and the resources of the federal government. and there's a latency there that i don't think we've realized a

good example. the va just shut down its electronic health records interoperability contract at maybe $10 billion contract. all of the contractors just got laid off and their businesses shut down. but the veterans haven't yet experienced the disruption of their health care. the young man last night, the survivor of brain cancer. that's such a compelling story. at the same time, donald trump and elon musk are shutting down medical research in the sciences. so at what point do we realize there are fewer cures for young men like that because of what doge is doing right now? right now, the focus is on the breaking of the glass, but the rebuilding of it, of it that's not happening is actually what's going to end up mattering the most. >> yeah, michael, there's a difference between tearing things down and building them up. right. and the second part is always a lot harder. how do democrats convince the american people that they're the ones to build things up? i think they tried to do that in november. i keep asking this question, but i don't hear a message that

significantly different than i heard months ago. >> here's the good news. democrats have done the work in terms of doing the things that improve the lives of the american public. the problem is, we don't talk about those things. we don't go home and say, this is what i did for you. we go home and talk about these other social issues that many americans just don't care about. and so, to answer your question, as the american people go through this period of sky high prices of the value of their retirement accounts falling. democrats have to communicate to voters, this is what we stand for. this is what we have done, and now this is what we want to do for you. >> so do you think they're doing that in? do they need to do it in a more aggressive way? >> aggressive and in the districts? forget washington, forget television. as much as i hate to say it, they should be in their districts holding town halls saying that i know it's awful. i'm sorry. multiple times a week. that's where they should be. they don't need to be in washington. and being a part of this circus donald trump has stirred up. >> julie, the reality is that the president, as you pointed

out, will need democrats going forward to avoid the government shutdown. and yet, what we saw last night was trump heavily criticizing joe biden and essentially mocking democrats to their faces. >> under joe biden, the worst president in american history. there were hundreds of thousands of illegal crossings a month. this is my fifth such speech to congress. and once again, i look at the democrats in front of me and i realize there is absolutely nothing i can say to make them happy or to make them stand or smile or applaud. nothing i can do. >> is any buddy on the republican side, keeping lines of communication open. is this dead? is it done? do we know what's going to happen? help us to understand. if donald trump has made it clear that he's not going to reach out to democrats, is there someone who thinks they might and have some success?

>> well, speaker johnson has a good relationship with house democratic leader hakeem jeffries. but when i asked leader schumer over on the senate side just two days ago if or actually yesterday, oh my gosh, this week feels like 20 years. if there have been any lines of communication about the continuing resolution about government funding, he said that nobody's reached out to him or leader jeffries about the path forward. now, we do know that the four corners, as we call them, basically the top republicans and democrats in charge of the budget and appropriations process have been talking. i already told you how rosa delauro, the top appropriator on the democratic side in the house, feels about this entire process. but it is definitely no secret that president trump wants to ice democrats out of this equation, especially given the fact that republicans, however narrow, do control the house. they do control the senate. and, of course, he's in the white house. that's why you saw his ambitious plans on those reconciliation packages that would basically avoid the need for democrats to vote for any of those funding measures for immigration, for the military, for energy, for

his tax cuts. we saw trump make a little moment there out of that, to democrats yesterday to saying, you better support us on cutting those tax cuts and extending those taxes. and, look, he might need them going forward. but at this point in time, as i mentioned earlier, he's really trying to do everything he can to pass this with just republican votes. i'm talking about the continuing resolution to fund the government and not rely on democrats. >> julie sirkin, michael hardaway, thank you. david, you're going to be staying with us. coming up in 90s tariff turmoil as the president digs in, his commerce secretary is suggesting a compromise could be coming. so which is it? compromise. holding costs, how the markets are responding as well. next. >> buying a car is kind. >> of a big deal. >> and you deserve something you love because it's where big life things happen. and little ones too. this is your car and sometimes your office. oh, it's

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compromise in the president's speech last night. he seemed to dig in. >> tariffs are about making america rich again and making america great again. and it's happening and it will happen rather quickly. will be a little disturbance. but we're okay with that. it won't be much. >> the president confirmed. by the way, i just got a readout of this just moments ago. he spoke to canadian prime minister trudeau by phone today and said the call ended in a, quote, somewhat friendly manner. let's bring in nbc's christine romans. and former congressman david jolly is back. so, christine, the president calls the impact of tariffs a little disturbance, right. give us a reality check. >> so moody's analytics says that little disturbance would be 1200 to $1300 a year extra for a family budget. that's not if you're going to buy a car. the car industry would be really hard hit. here you're talking about thousands of dollars, anywhere from 4000 to maybe $12,000 on a car or a new truck because of the cost of tariffs.

what you're seeing happening over the past 24 hours is this hardliners versus compromisers in this trump administration, who are trying to persuade the president about whether to back off a little bit of 25% tariffs on canada and mexico, because it would be very, very disruptive for the auto industry, raise prices for everyone and maybe have some supply chain problems. so we've heard the commerce secretary now 3 or 4 times on tv talking about this potential deal. there's speculation it could be a carve out for the auto industry. but the president's own words have been very, very clear. he wants tariffs. he wants to put the screws in to almost all of america's trading partners, and he wants to tighten the screws. >> so, david, the wall street journal is not backing down. they've had a daily criticism right of the president most recently today calling it the triumph of ideology over common sense. if there could be a compromise with mexico and canada, is that an acknowledgment that the pressure

is getting to him? >> the political pressure, yes. but i think it speaks to something much larger here, which is close observers of the president would say he often maybe doesn't know exactly what he's talking about. this is a perfect example, he said last night to the nation. he says repeatedly, tariffs are great. they make america great. they make america rich. well, if that's the case, why are you rushing to get a deal? why are you trying to get concessions actually from mexico and canada and other nations on this? if they're a great economic tool and a lever that the united states has, well, then use it. and i think it fundamentally exposes the problem with this tariffs as an economic tool to reposition the domestic economy. you could make a case for them. they typically in modern economic history fail, but you can make a case for them. he is using this just as to bludgeon in this case allies and economic partners of ours with little strategy. and you see the likes of howard lutnick who has come around to just be a sycophant now, arguably, but at least has a better understanding of the impact of tariffs on the market.

he's the one who seems to be trying to assure the markets. wait a minute, wait a minute. there's a deal to be had. there's a deal to be had. but that's not what donald trump is saying. donald trump is saying tariffs are great. well then, mr. president, why is your commerce secretary trying to get a deal. >> let me go back, if i can, to this tweet from donald trump saying that he actually spoke to justin trudeau and, and this whole thing was about fentanyl. he said, i told him that many people have died from fentanyl that came through the border of canada and mexico, and nothing has convinced me he has stopped. and he says it's gotten better. the fact of the matter is, in fiscal 2020, for fentanyl, seizures at the northern border were 43 pounds. i'm not discounting that, but 43 pounds compared to 21,000 pounds at the southern border. and yet he's telling justin trudeau, trudeau. you need to get better. is that part of the frustration that folks on wall street analysts are feeling that this is based on a questionable set of facts?

>> absolutely. they're talking about this is the drug war phase of this. the trade war happens april 12th when there are reciprocal tariffs, even more tariffs potentially coming on. and what the perplexing thing is for investors and for business owners, what is the tool and what is the goal? they know what the tool is. the tool is tariffs. but they're trying to figure out is it bringing factories home. is it punishing countries for fentanyl? is it illegal immigration? is it imbalances in the us? you know the us trade deficit. what is it exactly. that is the goal here and how will it be carried out. it's just been a little chaotic. and one of the real concerns is retaliation. right. we've already heard that china is going to start retaliating against american farmers. we've seen this movie and it cost billions of taxpayer dollars to bail out farmers and a lot of heart and hearts, you know, heartbreaking scenarios for american farmers. so the retaliation tariffs are like a circular firing squad. the us has started firing. now. expect everyone to start firing back.

>> well this is a different kind of retaliation. but real people are getting caught up right in this. and the bourbon industry is reeling because canada, we've got some pictures of it. they're just taking american whiskey off their store shelves. so that's stuff that's not going to be sold. it's already hurting sales of american bourbon manufacturers. and the president of the kentucky distillers association says, quote, hard working americans, corn farmers, truckers, distillery workers, barrel makers, bartenders, servers and communities and businesses built around kentucky. bourbon will suffer, will pressure in red states ultimately make its way? >> i think it will. and very importantly, on the drug leverage here that donald trump says donald trump just pardoned one of the largest drug dealers the world has ever seen, the creator and owner and operator of silk road. so donald trump's convictions on the drug trade would fall a little short here. i think this goes back to the previous segment. what when is the political impact occur for

tariffs? there is a latency to this. sure. on produce and perishable agricultural items strawberries, berries, fruits and so forth. we might see it right away, but the actual impact on the lay off of workers, of the closing of production lines and manufacturing facilities, there is some latency to that. is it 60 days, 90 days? is it two quarters? and so maybe donald trump and howard lutnick think there's a little bit of wiggle room here. but it goes back to the fundamental theory of the case here. if tariffs are good, then defend them. if not, why are you throwing them out there and what are you trying to negotiate for. this is a listless economic strategy by the president. howard lutnick, god bless him, is having to defend something that's indefensible right now. >> david. christine, thank you both. still ahead, the blink and you'll miss it moment from the president's speech that could have major legal implications. we'll explain. but first, legendary basketball player lebron james just demolished the nba record books. he's 40 years old. the lakers superstar just became the first player to ever reach 50,000 total points.

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president trump gave them some fresh ammunition. with this seemingly unremarkable remark. >> i have created the brand new department of government efficiency, goes. perhaps you've heard of it. perhaps. which is headed by elon musk, is in the gallery tonight. >> joining me now, msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. so, lisa, explain why doge is headed by elon musk is a statement that matters. >> well, chris, many of the lawsuits against doge right now are having to do with doge aren't just about what doge is doing, but about the legality of its very existence. if doge is a government agency like the department of health and human services, for example, it should have a head that is nominated by the president and confirmed by the senate. and as you well

know, neither the acting administrator of doge, amy gleason nor elon musk, fit that description. but there are other lawsuits that say if doge is, as has been described, more of an advisory commission, well, it's not complying with that applicable law either. and under something called the federal advisory commissions act. doge is supposed to make its decision making transparent to the public. there are a group of plaintiffs that have sued doge under that act. they want a court to determine that doge isn't abiding by federal law to make its decision making transparent rather than opaque, and they are seizing on this admission to ask for expedited discovery. that's a fancy way of saying fast evidence to prove that elon musk is a key decision maker here, and to try and get a handle on his communications with people in the white house and in the us. doge service to determine who he's ordering to do what, how and when. if they get that order, chris, you can

count on elon musk being dragged into these doge related disputes sooner rather than later. >> now let's see how that goes. lisa rubin, thank you. in the meantime, president trump is doubling down on doj's cuts, sending this message to federal workers whose lives have been upended in the first six weeks of his administration. >> we have hundreds of thousands of federal workers who have not been showing up to work. my administration will reclaim power from this unaccountable bureaucracy. the days of rule by unelected bureaucrats are over. >> not true. fact checkers point out he seems to be conflating not showing up with legit work from home. and even then, his number is high. nbc's jacob soboroff watched trump's speech alongside fired federal workers, and he joins me now. so, jacob, what was their reaction to all this? >> oh, bewilderment. >> chris, i think that that is pretty much. the most concise way that i can put it. i really, really enjoyed spending time with these four different

federal workers last night because we talked before the. >> speech, they represented the. >> housing and. >> urban. >> development department. >> the u.s. >> digital service. >> the us. >> forest service and. >> the us geological. >> survey sort of ran the gamut. >> across the. >> government and to. a person. >> they all had. >> hard time understanding based on the work that they were doing, which they believe is mission critical to use the government term, how they could have gotten laid off. it was an amazing conversation. let's show a little bit of it right now. >> does anybody. >> feel like they understand better why they were fired after watching the speech tonight? nobody. >> well, i. >> think for. >> myself, being a presidential management fellow, this is a 100%. >> you know, merit based program. >> people coming in. >> are, you know, taking jobs that have lesser pay. they want to serve the american public and for you to, you know, blanket statements saying the entire bureaucracy is untamed and, you know, doesn't have any tethering to anything. i mean, look at us. we're everyday average americans that just want to serve the american public, and we're not allowed to do that. >> when the president. >> said that he.

>> has saved, i want to make sure i get this right. hundreds of billions of dollars. your reaction was you just you shook your head. >> yeah. i think as we've seen before, a lot of those savings that they have touted have been slowly removed as people see some of that discrepancy in the numbers. and i think it's really important for people to go back, keep checking the website and hold those accountable for the things that they are and aren't doing. >> you also. >> were particularly seemed annoyed by the statement he made about thousands of federal workers not showing up to the office, because the work that you do and your colleagues do at the u.s. geological survey is not done in the office. it's largely done in the field. >> for many people. yes, the usgs. >> is the most. >> prestigious earth science. >> research institution. >> in the world, and we've been at the office this whole time. we do work in laboratories at the office, but lots of people are in the field. every day we monitor. >> the. >> nation's waterways. we monitor earthquakes, volcanoes and other hazards. we study ecosystems. so our office is. >> our nation's lands. >> so i mean, if you think it's

hard for us to understand why people like that are fired, imagine what it's like to be them working, you know, for the u.s. geological survey, working on critical minerals that trump said in the speech that he wants working for the forest service, collecting revenue, which is what trump says that he wants working for housing and urban development as a presidential management fellow. the best of the best, the most elite, which trump says that he wants working in immigration for the u.s. digital service, making it more efficient. trump says that's what he wants. yet all of these people have been laid off by the trump administration. >> jacob soboroff, an enlightening conversation. thank you. >> thank you chris. >> up next, ash wednesday, services include prayers for pope francis, the latest on his condition, in a live report from condition, in a live report from the vatican after this. ugh, when is my allergy spray going to kick in? -you need astepro. -astepro? it's faster, bro. 8x faster than flonase. it's faster, bro! it's faster, bro! it's faster, bro! it's mom to you. astepro starts working in 30 minutes. astepro and go! part ninja.

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with a medical provider at. >> it's a very different ash wednesday across rome today with pope francis still hospitalized and receiving oxygen treatments. catholics around the world sending prayers to the pope, including new york city archbishop timothy dolan, who reflected on the pope's strength throughout his illness. >> i shouldn't. >> say. >> hallelujah. >> it's lent. >> but that's. >> how gritty, how. >> resilient, how sturdy he is. >> but monday we, you know, seemed pretty serious. and now this morning, there's positive news again, it seems. yeah, but he's in the hospital a long time. >> we love him. >> he's a great example for us. >> and let's hope he i wouldn't mind. >> having him. >> and if he. >> can't do everything. he used to be, he's still. our father. >> nbc's claudio lasagna is live

at the vatican. and, claudio, i understand you just got an update. what more are we hearing about the condition of the pope? >> hey, chris. yeah, we just did. the vatican sent the update about ten minutes ago, which actually was half an hour late and made us worry somehow. but it turns out it is reassuring news. now, the vatican will just read you the highlights. it says that his condition, his clinical condition, remains stable throughout the day. he did not have any more of those respiratory failures that he experienced on monday. he continues his high flow oxygen therapy, which is this oxygen pumped through the nasal cannulas. and then overnight, he had a noninvasive mechanical ventilation, which is oxygen, through a mask. also, it says that he spent the day in his armchair, and in view of the complexity of his condition, the doctors keep the prognosis guarded, meaning he is not out of danger yet. but as you mentioned, today is ash wednesday, and the vatican says that in the morning he

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exemption for one month. so they are not at an economic disadvantage. so the three companies that he spoke to are stellantis, ford and general motors. they requested the call. they made the ask, and the president is happy to do it. it's a one month exemption. >> and the president just posted on social. >> media that. >> well, let's bring in nbc news senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell. so i don't know, because i'm not in the briefing room and neither are you. but what do we know about the specifics of this, or do we know any specifics? we don't know more than what caroline leavitt, the press secretary, unveiled in that moment. she said that was a message directly from the president, so she was prepared to address it. if a question came up. and it did, from our colleague gabe gutierrez. what's implicit in. this is that president trump is willing to have ongoing conversations after. >> he imposed. >> these tariffs and to make changes. and as she said, giving a one month extension would mean these american car companies would not be at a disadvantage. so clearly having the tariffs

can put them at a disadvantage. so it's interesting to see that the white house is reacting this quickly to it. part of what's going on here is, of course, in the first term of president trump, the usmca was the trade agreement between canada, the united states and mexico. it was sort of the retooled nafta and these car companies as a part of that. there is a lot in the supply chain of american made companies where parts of what are needed to assemble the vehicles are made in canada and mexico, even though there are american cars. and so having this additional time means there would not be a tariff on those elements of what needs to be done to put a car together and get it to market. but again, it implies pretty plainly that president trump recognizes that having these tariffs does put a burden on these american companies and by extension, that would go to consumers. so he's giving this one month reprieve.

we'll see how much more negotiating he may be willing to do. she was careful to point out the meeting was at the request. the conversation was at the request of the auto companies, of course, this is very sensitive to american business and being responsive to ceos when they call, especially when you're talking about the auto industry. and michigan, one of the battleground states that he won. but it is a quick reversal, although temporary, of his tariff plan, that he has put so much of his political capital behind. kris, impressive. keeping your concentration with that siren going on behind you. you are a pro. kelly o'donnell. thank you. we also have some more breaking news. the u.s. has paused intelligence sharing with ukraine after suspending military aid, as the white house reviews all aspects of that relationship. cia director john ratcliffe and national security adviser mike waltz both confirmed that today, with the latter describing what it would take to make president trump

reconsider. >> i think if we can. >> nail down these negotiations. >> and move towards these negotiations. >> and. >> in fact, put some confidence building. >> measures on the table. >> then the president. >> will take. >> a hard look. >> at. lifting this pause. >> and. then get back on the peace. process to try to. >> we have to know that we're we have to know that. both sides are sincerely negotiating towards a. >> partial, then permanent peace. >> jane harman is a former democratic congresswoman from california, chair of the commission on national defense strategy, and former president and ceo at the woodrow wilson center. it's good to see you, congresswoman. when you couple this with the pause in military aid, what's the impact? well, hopefully it's for a short period, but that period could have a catastrophic impact on ukraine to be clear, the united states in particular has been working through a site in wiesbaden, germany, called the

security assistance group sag you to help with targeting of drones and missiles in ukraine. in addition to that, there are some ground operations in ukraine that the cia has helped ukraine with. if ukraine goes dark and doesn't isn't able to target drones and missiles and isn't able to understand when there are incoming drones and missiles, they're totally vulnerable. maybe it's for ten minutes, maybe it's for ten days. but i think after all this, it is a very unwise move that has just been made. zelensky wrote a letter the president was gracious last night. zelensky was gracious in his letter. and i think these negotiations are going to move forward. but hobbling ukraine in advance of these negotiations is a very unexpected and i think, a very dangerous move on the part of the united states government. you mentioned the letter. let me

play exactly what the president said last night, because he did quote from the letter he received from president zelensky. here it is. >> my team and i stand ready to work. under president trump's strong leadership to get a peace that lasts. we do really value how much america has done to help ukraine maintain its sovereignty and independence. i appreciate that he sent this letter. >> how much good did it do? how much good do you think it did to have zelensky say that? reach out to trump on terms that he frankly had been demanding? did he really have a choice? but did it help? well, i hope so. i mean, trump was gracious. it's very hard to predict his personal actions, but the goal is to end this war on terms that are favorable to ukraine. three years in, with massive support from the united states,

including republican members of congress who still say they're supporting ukraine. it's very important not to gift this to russia. i wrote an op ed the other day about neville chamberlain, who thought that giving czechoslovakia to the nazis would stop the war. well, oops, didn't do that. i think giving ukraine to russia isn't going to stop the war. and then president trump will be condemned, i think, for losing ukraine. there's a better way to do this. and zelenskyy is ready. and i think the countries of europe who met with him this weekend are ready to increase aid, to increase terms that trump wants to sign this agreement on the critical minerals, and to set up a way in which donald trump is a peacemaker. i think that's what he wants. i mean, if he's searching for the nobel peace prize, it seems to me a bad way to go is, first of all, to say

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