>> physical loss is consistent with. >> other insurers. >> if your plan is an outlier, buy a very, very big distance. they believe that these homes are not damaged. state farm and liberty mutual and usaa. they will acknowledge that the homes are damaged. and then the question becomes what they pay. >> for now, the. hardcastle's left in limbo. questioning how they'll be able to get back to. >> the home. >> that means. >> so much. >> we want. >> to come back when. >> it's safe to come back. >> yeah. we don't. >> know when. >> that will be. >> that was nbc's liz kreutz with that report. that does it for us this morning. we'll see you again tomorrow at 6 a.m. eastern. jose diaz-balart picks up msnbc's coverage right now. >> right now on msnbc, breaking news from the white house. an executive order to abolish the department of education could come today. can the president push the limits of authority to give it the ax? plus, breaking news on the hill. the house to vote this hour on whether to censure congressman al green for this outburst during the

president's speech. also ahead, we're watching the markets this morning. take a look at that. the dow is down 530 points. new signs that trump's tariff exemption for auto makers is not calming the confusion on wall street. and later ukraine's zelensky meets with european leaders as allies weigh whether to share less intelligence with the us. good morning. 10 a.m. eastern, 7 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart in for ana cabrera. and we begin with two breaking news stories this morning. more wall street losses, more confusion on wall street on president trump's tariffs. his exemption for automakers does not appear to be calming the markets. 469 65 points down at this hour. plus education on the chopping block. the wall street journal reports

an executive order to eliminate the department of education could be signed as soon as today. according to people briefed on the matter, the draft order reportedly directs education secretary linda mcmahon to take all necessary steps to facilitate the closure of the education department. earlier this week, mcmahon spoke of the department's final mission. we're joined by nbc news white house correspondent aaron gilchrist, our melanie zanona on capitol hill, along with a pair of msnbc political analyst, republican strategist rick tyler and democratic strategist basil smikle. so, aaron, first on the markets, the president issued a reprieve on some of the tariffs. but this is not having a positive impact on the market. what exactly is the latest on this? >> well, jose, we know that the markets don't like uncertainty. and there's still some of that as it relates to what these tariffs are going to look like, both coming from the united states and from our neighbors to the north and south. we know that president trump yesterday decided that he would allow a

bit of a pause for auto makers, in particular, as it relates to these tariffs for one month. so that would give them some more time to sort of build in plans for this tariff or for a deal to be made between the united states, canada and mexico that would keep this 25% tariff from going into effect and in effect, raising the costs of automobile production and the cost that would eventually be passed on to consumers. but there is still some uncertainty about exactly how all this is ultimately going to play out. we know that the mexican government is still looking at the potential for it to institute similar tariffs on the united states. the canadians have made the same effort on their end, knowing still that the president has spoken with the canadian prime minister. there were signs that that call was amicable, although it didn't change the reality. in terms of the math on all this. and then there's a potentially a call with the mexican president happening this week as well. jose. and so i think that uncertainty is still something

that the markets are dealing with, and that is seems to be having some impact on what the numbers look like coming out of the dow, at least at this point in the morning. >> and so, erin, now to the issue of the education department, can the executive abolish a federal agency? >> so the new education secretary, linda mcmahon, acknowledged during her confirmation hearing that congress would need to get involved in order to eliminate, to totally do away with the department of education. she seemed to indicate then that her goal really was was to make sure that there were more efficiencies as it relates to what the federal government does with education policy, with education dollars, with education programs. we saw a message come out from the new secretary of education, where she essentially saidt she is aligned with president trump in wantin to send education back to the states,end e responsibilityor ecation back to the states. you can see part of her message on thereen , is ourpportunity to perform

one final, unforgettable public service to future generations of students. i hope you will join me in ensuring thatour final mission complete, we will all be able to say that we left american education freer, stronger, and with more hope for the future. she said that the act of restoring education responsibility to the states would be one that would impact both staffing, budgets and operations at the federal agency. jose, it's worth pointing out that we don't know exactly when this executive order may come down. the secretary seemed to indicate that it would take months for her to reorganize that agency, to change how it operates with, with the goal still being to make sure that certain services programs are still still exist for students. but she suggested that they might be better handled under other agencies, not this 4000 person federal agency that is the department of education. >> and, melanie, i mean, there have been efforts in the past on capitol hill to eliminate the department of education. what are we hearing about this one?

>> well, as. >> you mentioned, it. >> does require an act of congress to abolish a cabinet level agency. and even though republicans have cheered the. >> idea of. >> eliminating the department of education, this. would be usurping some of their power. now, trump can. >> do other things, as. >> we saw with usaid, to effectively shutter an agency such as freezing funding or moving some of the functions around. so we'll have to wait and see what this executive order does. we also don't know when it's exactly coming at this point, but this is just another example of how congress has allowed the new trump administration to take away some of their own power and responsibility. i mean, there is some discussion right now of a so-called rescissions package, which is essentially a package of spending cuts as a way to codify some of these cuts and some of these doge moves. but by and large, what we've seen from republicans, from the leadership on down is that they are okay with the new administration really just taking away some of their spending powers and some of their decision making here. >> yeah. i mean, melanie, it seems as though they're in sync.

the house, the senate being majority republican and the executive on these different policies. now, rick, republicans have been talking about elimination of the education department for some time now. right? i mean, but outside of the gop, polls show it's not popular, at least from, for example, this latest marist npr poll, 63% of americans oppose or strongly oppose it. this includes 64% of independents. these are the opposing the elimination of the department. do you think that this politically could backfire? it absolutely. >> could backfire. >> because this is. >> a political process. >> the department. >> of education has been. >> opposed by. >> republicans, particularly conservatives, since jimmy. >> carter initiated the. >> department of. >> education many, many years ago. >> and it. >> was a it was. >> a rallying. >> cry during the reagan administration. >> and the problem. >> is that. >> people here. >> when you want to eliminate the department of education, that you don't care about education, you don't care about kids. the truth. is that. >> i don't know why. >> mcmahon said, return.

>> the responsibility back to the states. >> because in fact. >> the responsibility already resides. >> with the states. most of the funding for education. >> comes from. property tax and local communities. >> you have. >> thousands of school. >> boards. >> school board members, school board superintendents. >> and they control the curriculums. >> and the funding for education. >> in the states. so we can. >> we can argue about whether. >> the department of education. >> what its function is or. whether it needs to be reformed. >> i would say it does. >> i think. >> a. lot of the government does need to be reformed, and this is the thematic. >> that we're seeing all over the place. >> and surprise, it's taken this long, you know, because you can liken the government. >> to an. >> assembly line in. >> the in the industrial age, when it. required thousands and thousands of people to make it work. >> and you can't just. >> go. and fire. >> people from that assembly line. and because. >> production would come down to zero. because of the way it's. >> worked. >> and modern. >> assembly line takes. >> dozens of people. >> because it's all been automated. >> and despite what. >> trump wants you to think, these jobs didn't go overseas. they've been automated, but the government has been hopelessly behind the private sector. and

now it's sort of coming to light that these there is so many inefficiencies in the government. >> i. >> however, do not. >> believe that the. >> average federal employee is either lazy. >> or unproductive. >> i just think they work in a system that is so antiquated that it. >> needs to be updated. >> so it. works like a modern assembly line and not like an industrial or agrarian assembly line. and then we can make some real progress. i don't think this is the right way to go about it. i think you just start. >> firing people, you're going. >> to run into some real problems and there will be a disaster along the way. and then you have coupled with that, as you just mentioned, jose, is the political problem. if you have 63% of the american. >> people. >> which i. >> would. >> call a pretty. >> strong majority. >> who do not. >> want to abolish. >> the. department of education, because what they hear is that. >> you are against. >> education. >> you are going to have a real problem. >> yeah. i mean, and basil, i mean, you actually teach a class on federal education policy, the president and, you know, others. and rick was just saying about how this has been a theme, right, among republicans, especially going back, you know, reagan. right? right after

carter started the process of creating the education department. but this whole issue of it's time to send the money back to the states, let them who are the best equipped to know what their educational needs are for their state. the federal government does, however, fund education for the different states. and we're talking about, you know, tens of millions of dollars. what is the role of the education department? >> sure. >> and to be clear, at most, it's 5% of the federal budget. so we're not talking a lot of money when you consider the entire federal budget, it's. still billions. yes. but again, 5% of trillions of dollars in the federal budget is not something that i think most voters would say would be, in and of itself, wasteful. but when you think about it, rick is right. when you think about the way that the education department is structured in education broadly, yes, most of the decision making is at the state level that majority of the schools in our country are paid by local property taxes. and yet

the curriculum is in many ways controlled by local school boards. so to me, what this argument is, it's not necessarily about actual education, because what the department does is it collects data on whether or not curriculum actually is working for our students. it tries to associate school districts and states in in cobbling together what the best practices that are occurring across the country. and of course, the president can use the department of education for his or her bully pulpit. but what this really is about is returning to states rights. and why is that critical? because particularly after brown versus board of ed and during the civil rights era, you had a lot of southern states use the issue of states rights to create segregation academies to keep african american students from going to school with white students. so there were ways to privatize, even within the public school system, schools and districts, so that you could

you could keep integration from actually taking place. and if you remember, during the 2020 debate, kamala harris and joe biden actually got into a little tiff around the federal role of education. >> and busing. >> and busing. and kamala harris was saying the federal government needed to step in. joe biden kept saying, well, it was a states rights issue. but both are correct in the sense that when states weren't following the federal mandate, individuals families would have to go back to the federal government and the courts to get them to enforce. so when you close the department of education, you close a lot of that enforcement to make sure that something like integration and the supreme court's interest in pushing for integration gets followed. >> and yet much of the progress that was handled, and we know let's never forget those images, right? i mean, starting with governor wallace to, you know,

jfk s role in guaranteeing that that little kids could go to school, you know, that was before the department of education existed. >> that's exactly right. ruby bridges in that famous norman rockwell painting. right. so all of those, all of those, all of those images that we see of young african americans trying to go to school, the department of education in many ways, was set up to make sure that what was decided at the supreme court and what we believed as a country was important to integrate students would be enforced. >> and melanie, i mean, meanwhile, we do have to talk about the other issues on on capitol hill. melanie, the role of the tariffs that are you know now it's i'm looking at the dow jones is down about 300 points. elon musk has been on the hill to reassure republicans about doj's cuts. what it's come out of those meetings. >> well republicans went into those meetings yesterday with

two goals. one, they wanted to open the lines of communication with elon musk because a lot of them felt like they've been in the dark on a lot of what is happening. and elon musk did agree to be more communicative. in fact, he even gave out his cell phone number during one of the meetings. and number two, republicans just wanted more clarity on exactly what he was doing and what his end game is. and after that meeting, it does appear as republicans felt a little bit more comfortable. take a listen. >> elon and i are. >> talking regularly. >> almost daily. >> now about. >> this so we can. >> coordinate the efforts. >> elon musk isn't cutting anything. >> but. >> if elon musk isn't cutting anything, why is he here talking to you tonight? >> because he's. >> helping us uncover all the spending and letting us know where the waste is. i encouraged him to go as fast as possible because we're going to lose our guts. my question. >> is, what can we do? where would we go. >> when he. >> uncovers the information? >> he just said. >> let me get it to you. and then y'all. >> decide what to do with it. >> so republicans are pretty unified as of right now, but we'll see whether that lasts, especially as republicans

prepare to potentially vote on codifying and making permanent some of these spending cuts. jose. >> and meanwhile, rick, the department of veterans affairs is reportedly readying to have about 80,000 layoffs. that's about 15% of its entire workforce. how are republicans explaining those cuts? well, i love the comment about we need to lose our guts. these guys are spineless cowards. that's why they have elon musk. >> there to. >> begin. >> with, because. >> he provides. >> a huge. >> shield to them. >> look, as i said, i think. government does. >> need to be reformed. it needs to be it needs. to be smaller and more responsive. >> but this is not the way to go about it. where is the. >> new design? >> what is the design to make it. work with less people? and that's what doesn't. >> exist, because government has exponentially been slower than the private sector in reforming. >> and being. >> adaptable to modern standards. >> and so, again, use the assembly line, you know. the turn of the century assembly line. if an. >> assembly line. >> requires 1000. >> people and you cut out half of them. >> well, the assembly line is going to come to a screeching halt. if in fact, you rebuild

the assembly line to be automated. >> and work. >> for a dozen people. >> then that can work. >> but you can't do is just fire all. >> these. >> people and then. >> that hope. >> that it works. >> hope is not a plan, and all this stuff has to. >> be codified into law. because when. >> when elon musk is gone and. >> president trump is gone. >> all the executive orders. >> can. >> be ripped up. and the law exists to rehire. >> them all. yeah. rick tyler, basil smikle, thank you very much. and, melanie, if you would stay with me as we turn to breaking news on capitol hill, where the house is about to vote on whether to censure democratic congressman al green of texas. green was escorted off the floor after disrupting the president's address to congress on tuesday night. so, melanie, in the last 15 years, only four members have been censured. does this censure vote have support? >> well, you're right, this has been something that's been pretty rare, but it has become increasingly common as we've seen congress become more polarized over the years. now, as far as this resolution, we are expecting it to have wide republican support. they are

pretty unified. the leadership has said they have their full blessing for this effort, and they were furious with their democratic counterparts for tuesday night's interruptions, particularly al green. they said it was a disgrace to the institution. we should point out, however, there have been republicans in the past, in the past several years, actually including some members of the freedom caucus who were heckling president joe biden. and republicans didn't do anything about that at the time. but in terms of whether democrats are going to support this effort, we have been told that democratic leaders are not whipping the effort, meaning they're not telling members how to vote. so they're free to vote their conscience. and behind the scenes, there has been some democratic frustration with what they saw on tuesday, because the leadership really wanted to keep the message focused on donald trump and not the council members, not to have outbursts and not make a scene, to not use props to avoid exactly the scenario they are in now. so we'll see whether any democrats crossed party lines to punish one of their own colleagues. but we are expecting this to pass. so just another remarkable moment here on capitol hill. >> and this melanie is going to

happen any minute now right. >> yeah. any minute yet. i'm told by my extraordinary team members that it is not happened just yet, but we are standing by to watch that go down. >> melanie, keep us posted if you would, on that vote. i thank you. but up next we'll talk to democratic congressman eugene vindman. what he makes of the trump administration's pause on intel sharing with ukraine and pivot towards russia. congressman, great seeing you. we'll chat in just a minute. also ahead, what caused south korean fighter jets to mistakenly drop bombs on a civilian neighborhood? and later two moon landings in less than a week. what it means for our future in space. we're back in future in space. we're back in 90s. ♪♪ at bombas, we dream of comfort and softness. which is why we make the best socks and slippers in the history of feet. ♪♪ visit bombas.com and get 20% off your first order. tap into etsy ♪♪ for home and style staples to help you set any vibe. from custom lighting under 150 dollars

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only t-priority dynamically dedicates more capacity for first responders. ukrainian president zelensky is attending a eu defense summit. his message on arrival it's great. we're not alone. some european officials describing this as a defining moment for ukraine and european security. the meeting comes after new exclusive nbc news reporting that some longtime u.s. allies are considering scaling back the intelligence they share with us because of president trump's pivot toward russia. joining us now from the white house is nbc's peter alexander and nbc's matt bodner, tracking the latest with this eu summit? so, peter, what are the risks of sharing less intelligence between the allies? >> yeah, josie, let's walk through our newest reporting here. >> so the bottom line. >> is you notice that. american

allies worry that as the. us takes a more conciliatory. >> approach toward russia, toward vladimir putin. >> that any intelligence that it. >> shares with. >> the. >> us could. >> make its way. >> into. >>he wrong hands. the allies. >> are weighing. >> concerns about safeguarding foreign. >> assets whose identities. >> could inadvertently. >> be revealed. >> you know, every intelligence agency. >> they treat. >> its commitments. >> to foreign agents. >> is this sacrosanct? they pledge to keep agents safe, to shield their identities. so anything that jeopardize that obligation would violate that trust, former officials tell. >> nbc news. >> and that could lead to some spy. >> agencies holding. >> back on some information. >> that they. >> share with washington. >> this is why the us has these intelligence cooperation agreements here. >> so. >> that we're. sharing information with some of. >> our closest allies, and they share it with us to keep everybody safe here. you've heard likely, of the five eyes alliance that some of the english speaking democracies work. >> together the. >> us, the uk, australia, new zealand, as you see, canada all a part of this.

>> the uk posting a. >> statement saying. >> that they intend. >> to continue. >> with this effort. there is no. >> change in. >> intelligence sharing as it relates to. >> the united. >> states. and we also heard. >> back from the national. >> security council here, a spokesperson. >> saying that the. >> us has unrivaled. >> intelligence gathering capabilities. >> that's why. >> they say. >> these initiatives exist. >> but you recognize. the point here. the concern is. >> if. there is. >> any erosion. >> in those relationships. >> perhaps beyond. >> the five eyes. >> with other. >> allies. >> what. >> some of the real concerns would be. >> and matt, meanwhile, what's the latest coming out of brussels? >> thanks, jose. well, obviously there's a lot of discussion in europe right now about what to do. it seems day by day, the positions between the european, the european allies and the united states, particularly on ukraine, but also russia drifts further apart. so we're seeing a lot a lot of discussion. it's still all talk for now, but it's very noteworthy what they're saying. let's take the head of the eu, ursula von der leyen, saying at this summit today that this is a watershed moment for europe and that there is a clear

and present danger. this, of course, following french president macron's address last night in which he talked about the threat from russia in this idea that they hope the united states stays on side but have to be ready if the united states does switch sides. and so this has prompted discussions today about, for example, extending the french nuclear shield. they are the ones with an independent nuclear deterrence separate from the united states. and so this speaks to concern about a potential total us withdrawal from european, from security from the entire space. and, and again underscores how much of a real threat they see in russia. we're seeing other discussions as well on the more conventional fronts. 20 nations now joining the discussions on keir starmers so-called coalition of the willing for potential boots on the ground in ukraine as part of a potential peace deal. the hope is that this will be presented eventually to washington, to donald trump, to try to get him to buy into it and provide what the europeans still insist is a

critical us military backstop, not american troops on the ground, but nuclear deterrence potential air support if needed. so we're seeing a lot of that in europe today. we're still seeing, you know, hedging bets on where things are going to go. starmer saying that a peace deal is not a given and that fundamentally ukraine just must be as strong as they can possibly make it. >> peter alexander and matt bodner, thank you both so very much. and joining us now is democratic congressman eugene vindman of virginia. he's an army veteran and sits on the armed services committee. he fled ukraine as a child. it's great to see you. i thank you for your time. let's start with that. nbc reporting that some u.s. allies are considering cutting back or not sharing intelligence with the u.s. given the president's pivot towards russia. how significant do you think that is? >> well, look, it's pretty significant. >> thanks, jose. >> great to be. on the five eyes have been the bedrock of our intelligence. >> sharing for decades now. >> they're are most.

>> trusted partners, and they're. >> losing. >> confidence that. >> we are. >> a trusted partner. >> and if you think. >> about the first 45 days of this. >> administration. >> it's truly been. >> an abomination. >> whether you're looking at domestic. >> policy or. >> foreign policy, our. >> turn or. >> our about face on ukraine policy, turning towards dictators and away from. >> our democratic. >> allies is. >> really problematic. >> and so how. >> do. >> you not lose. >> confidence in this administration. >> and what they're doing? >> yeah. how is it that an administration, republican or democrat, do you think congressman should handle the reality versus what they wish the reality were? so do you not deal with dictatorships? do you not have communication with dictatorships? and if you do, then what dictatorships do you choose to speak with and what dictatorships do you just choose to let them exist? >> well, look, we should be

talking. >> to our allies. >> and our adversaries. >> we need. >> to. >> keep open lines of conversation. >> i mean, during. >> the entire cold. >> war. >> we obviously. >> had a hotline. to the soviets. so we. >> need to continue. >> to have those conversations. but that doesn't mean we give away the farm when we start, before. we even start negotiating. >> or pander. >> to them. >> calling or refusing to call a dictator or a dictator and. calling the democratically. elected leader of a country fighting for its freedom and. sovereignty a dictator. i mean, that's that's outrageous. >> i think there's a middle ground there. >> we're nowhere. >> near it. this is. >> more of an about. >> face and folding its weakness, then. >> keeping lines of. >> communication open. >> yesterday, france's president macron gave a televised address to his country, where he said we've entered a new era. he said ssia has become a threat not just for ukraine, but france and all of europe. and he said, quote, i want to believe that the united states will stay on

our side, but we have ready. if they don't, that's so, like striking to see in writing, right? i mean, congressman, how big of a global real are we witnessing? yeah. >> it's enormous. it's basically the end of the post-world war. >> two rules based order. >> that the united states. >> helped enshrine. >> i gave. >> a speech. >> on the floor about. >> right on the anniversary. >> of the. full scale invasion of ukraine. >> talking about. >> the end of pax americana. >> i mean, this is an enormous realignment. and i think it's unfortunate. >> because it's based. >> on some misunderstanding. >> the us. >> is not the only partner. >> we're the preferred partner. >> for everybody. >> but we're. not we're not the only partner. and we're seeing that with ukraine and the european allies that. >> are that. >> are standing up and offering. potentially a ir umbrella.

troops on the ground and additional resources. >> so it's. it's highly problematic. >> it's damaging to our. >> national security, our alliances, our relationships. overseas have been what's made this country strong and allowed this country to prosper. provided some level of predictability. >> and we're. >> seeing that evaporate. >> and that's having. >> an impact. >> already on. >> our economy. >> congressman, the white house is responding to a report in reuters that says the president is planning to revoke legal status for ukrainians who have fled since the war and come to the united states. the white house press secretary now says no decision has been made at this time. what's your reaction to this? >> i think. >> it's ridiculous. >> i mean. >> again, these are folks that are fleeing. >> oppression, aggression. >> their cities are. >> being. >> rained with. >> bombs, and it's outrageous. >> they're refugees. very much like i was a refugee when i first. >> came. >> to this country. they're they're looking to the united states. that has been a. haven

for generations. andow >> we're forsaking them. >> it's unacceptable. >> and i don't trust thi >> administration at all to. >> make the right decisions. >> i'm very disappointed. >> you know, congressman. just the term congressman. and i know that you have such a vast legacy of service to the united states. but i'm just wondering, congressman, you know, you talk about oppression, and i keep thinking about, you know, the people of cuba that have been living for 64 years under a dictatorship. what's going on in venezuela? what's going on in nicaragua? what's going on in, in, in iran since 1979, one of the most oppressive regimes on earth. how does it how do you feel every day when you get to go to capitol hill and knowing that you were born in a country that at the time was under the boot of the soviet union, how does it just on a human level, what does it mean to you? well.

>> look, up to this point, this country has always had the american dream. it's been alive. when you come to this country as a as a refugee, not. >> speaking any english. >> but learning english, a decades of. >> of. >> education. military service. >> and end up in. >> in congress representing almost. 800,000 americans. what better. >> representation of the american dream is there? >> and that's been true up until this point. but we're seeing. >> such. >> a. >> rapid retreat in these first 45 days. >> like i said. >> it's an abomination. >> i'm hard pressed. >> to think of. >> a worse. >> 45 days. self-inflicted by. >> any administration in this country's. >> history, whether it's. >> turning away. from our. >> values or. >> damaging the country in. >> the economy. >> and predictability. >> i mean. >> we're advised. >> it's terrible. >> and i think the american. >> people are waking up. >> to. >> this threat and making their voices heard, just like 7000 did

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vote took place, what is supposed to happen is that in this case, it was speaker mike johnson who was presiding over the floor, formally reads the resolution out loud as al green was supposed to stand in the well of the chamber. but during that moment, he was surrounded by some of his allies, some members of the congressional black caucus, some other progressive members. and they started singing we shall overcome. as johnson tried to read those words. just watch that moment. >> everyone on this vote, the yeas are 224. >> the. >> nays are 198, with two. answering present. the resolution is adopted without objection. a motion to reconsider is laid on the table. of the house and come to order. the house will come to order. >> should. >> will representative green present himself to the will?

>> of the. >> by its. >> adoption of. >> house resolution 189, the house has resolved that representative. al green be. >> censured. >> that representative al green forthwith present himself. >> in. >> the well of the house of representatives for the pronouncement of censure, and that representative al green be censured with public reading of this resolution by the speaker. >> in order to by pass. >> so just a. >> remarkable moment there on the house floor. >> and the house. >> had. >> come to order. >> the house to come. >> to order. >> as you. >> saw. >> democrats were not united in their response. you had ten democrats who crossed party lines to back this censure resolution. and yet there were plenty of lawmakers, as you saw there on the house floor, who were standing behind al green. i think it's just such a reflection of the division in

the democratic party right now, because even heading into the speech, the democratic leadership were advising their members not to protest, not to make a scene, to try to keep the spotlight on donald trump and his policies. and so you have to imagine that they were not pleased with the display that al green made on tuesday night. but he was hardly alone. there was a number of congressional progressive members who were showing up signs and protesting and other ways. and so i just think this is a moment that shows how divided the democratic party is right now. and al green now becoming the 28th member to ever be centered on the house floor. >> melanie. so there was and you were absolutely right. i mean, it was ten two voted essentially with the censure, eight democrats voting to censure to the essentially were just voting present, which is a way to not say one way or or the other. have there been any response from any of those ten democrats? i know that they're probably still in the. well.

>> yeah, they're still trickling out of the chamber as we speak. it is notable, though, that al green himself voted present on the house floor. but the response from progressives have been, they're standing by al green because they believe they need to show that they're not okay with the trump administration, and they're not just going to let trump say whatever he wants without it going checked. but the argument from the democratic leadership is that they need to make this about the policies and the people, and they don't want the story to be about themselves. and this is exactly what the democratic leadership wanted to avoid. and, of course, the republicans are making a big moment out of this. they were able to peel off some democratic support. so it was a bipartisan vote. you know, they can't say it was a partizan vote here. and this is just going to be something, i think that reverberates for weeks and months to come. as censure becomes an increasingly common tool that they are using here in congress. >> melanie, thank you so very much. really appreciate it. we're also following breaking news on wall street. well, really, if you look at the dow,

it's pretty much a standard day when there's no crisis. right. and happy to be with christine romans, who can of course explain that a whole lot more. i mean, it's what, down 130 points. it's there's a lot of confusion, however, over president trump's tariffs, that 25% tariff on mexico and canada to 10%. and then it's gone up to 20% on on some chinese products. the president had talked about a reprieve for the auto industry for one month. but there are some changes, some late breaking changes on that. and so with that, i want to ask nbc news senior business correspondent christine romans to give us an update on what's been going on with the words tariffs and the exceptions to them. >> okay, so. >> the auto. >> industry got a. >> reprieve. >> as you pointed out, for. just about a month. right. and so that was seen as the president carving out this really

important part of the economy. and then now we hear from the commerce secretary, howard lutnick, saying, any of the goods that fall under the usmca, the us, mexico, canada agreement that donald trump signed into law in 2020, all of those goods are now exempt for one month. now we have to see if the president himself comes out and says that because what you have are you have people in the administration who are kind of lobbying for their their positions on what to do on tariffs. but howard lutnick is suggesting that that one month exemption to automakers could be expanded. >> and we have what the secretary of commerce just said a little ago. let's listen to it. >> you're going to see the. >> stock market explode. and if. >> it doesn't do it tomorrow. that's because. people just don't understand. >> that they. >> should be betting on donald trump. if i were. >> them and i were. >> your viewers. >> i would understand. >> the long term trade of donald trump. >> is. >> you bet on him and he is a. >> winner and. >> he is going to win for america. >> so translate if you would. christine. >> okay. >> so we have this big remaking of the global trading system

that donald trump wants to do. and he says long term that's going to be amazing for america and make it super rich. but in the near term, you have all of these industries that have already complied by his earlier trade agreement that have very complicated supply chains in the united states, mexico and canada. and if there are tariffs on those goods, it will be disruptive, potentially devastating for certain for certain industries. we talked about the avocados industry like avocados as of yesterday, cost 25% more than they did a week ago. and now if there if there is a pause on that, that gives some breathing space but not certainty for what's going to happen next. so there's a lot of uncertainty in american business right now. >> right. and so what we know so far as of 10:43 p.m. eastern time on thursday is that apparently there is a one month pause on the tariffs that are being added to the usmca. so therefore, christine, the usmca

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