much for your insights today, ladies and gentlemen. that does it for me. thank you so much for watching. velshi you can catch velshi every saturday and sunday morning from 10 a.m. to noon eastern time. and you should stay where you are, because the katie phang show starts right now. this is the katie. >> phang show live from. msnbc headquarters in new york city. watching the clock. the countdown is on for republicans to pass a budget bill and avert a government shutdown. but can house speaker mike johnson hold his razor thin majority together to get it done? texas congresswoman jasmine crockett joins me to explain why democrats are telling the gop do it yourself. plus, destroying the department of education, the latest wave of staffers affected by trump's fresh round of federal cuts, and how he's

making it more difficult for the millions of existing federal student loan borrowers to pay back what they owe. and later, daring to be different. four time tony nominee and groundbreaking choreographer camille a brown joins me live on set to talk about how she's breaking the broadway mold and bringing a new life to two smash hits on stage as we continue our celebration of women's history month. all of that and more is coming up. tick tock goes the government shutdown clock. there are just six days left until the federal government shuts down, but republicans swear that they have a plan with the blessing of dear leader, convicted felon, and sometimes president donald trump. house speaker mike johnson is planning to move

forward with a vote on tuesday for a clean, stop backed stopgap funding bill, also known as a continuing resolution. that bill would keep the lights on at current funding levels through the end of september, but we're already on our second cr this year. house republicans, with their razor thin majority, will have to get by without any help from their friends from across the aisle. on friday, minority leader hakeem jeffries and other democratic leadership released a letter saying they will not support the stopgap bill, saying in part that the cr threatens to cut funding for health care, nutritional assistance and veterans benefits through the end of the current fiscal year. will democrats hold the line against trump's budget that only benefits his billionaire buddies? joining me now is democratic congresswoman jasmine crockett of the great state of texas, vice ranking member of the house oversight and government committee and a

member of the doge subcommittee. congresswoman, it's good to see you. as i said, we're less than a week away from that government shutdown deadline. what are the democrats going to do? >> listen, the democrats are united as it relates to the american people. i want to be clear that this really is not partizan. i know that it looks very partizan, but at the end of the day, we know that the cuts that the republicans are proposing, that these cuts are not only going to impact democrats and independents, but republicans as well. in fact, we know that the republicans have decided that they don't want to answer to their constituents. they put out official guidance saying, do not go home and do town halls. and so right now, the democrats are carrying the load for not only our constituents, but for theirs, too, because clearly they don't have the answers for their constituents, which the honest to goodness truth is that they don't answer to their constituents. they only have decided that they're going to answer to elon musk and donald

trump. >> so this week, we saw the great congressman al green stand up during trump's joint address to congress. and he ended up being censured by not only your republican colleagues, but also ten of your fellow democrats. i got to ask, what was there to gain from democrats siding with republicans on this issue? >> i have no idea. you did not see my photo there. so you know that i absolutely stood with the amazing texan that i currently serve with. listen, here's the reality for me. i don't think that really anyone should have decided that they should supplant their own judgment on an 80 year old black man, especially as we are coming up on or actually even today, the celebration of bloody sunday or the commemoration, i should say, of bloody sunday. it wasn't a celebration for sure. and, you know, this is someone who lived through the civil rights era and

saw the dogs and saw the hoses and saw the police bludgeon and bloody people. and so he understands history and a little bit of a different way than probably anybody else or most other people sitting in that chamber. and so to decide that we were going to cast judgment on what he was feeling as the president decided to get up there and lie, as we know he always does, and say that he had a mandate. we know that he did not run on this idea of cutting out medicaid or cutting social security. in fact, every time we said it, the republicans said that we were lying. every time we said that they were looking to project 2025, they said we were lying. and now we know that the liar in chief did exactly what he's always done, which is lied. and for whatever reason, the american people did not trust us when we told them exactly what was going to happen. so, you know, i voted obviously not to do this to al green. not to mention, as we sat

there, one of the things that no one is talking about is that marjorie taylor greene was not she was violating house rules as well. we are not allowed to wear any hats whatsoever, no matter what. yet she sat there on that same day and she was not. she was wearing a hat. she was wearing a maga hat, and that was out of decorum. and no one said anything to her. >> well, the hypocrisy abounds. we know that not only marjorie taylor greene, but also lauren boebert, used to routinely shout out at president biden during the state of the union addresses, and they never faced a censure from not only the democrats, but from their own party. let's switch gears a little bit, because you have been incredibly busy in washington this week. you're a part of the house oversight committee. there was a hearing this week where the mayors of four so-called sanctuary cities were grilled. i want to play a very quick bit of something that you definitely had to share during that hearing. take a listen. >> have any of you been made aware of any immigrant that has had 34 felony conviction felony

felony convictions that is still been able to roam around in your cities? any. anyone? >> no, ma'am. >> i mean, congresswoman, it's true. i just talked about the hypocrisy from the gop. they're so quick to want to round up people on the streets, they don't really even bother to care. you know, if they look brown or black or whatever, it's okay. but in this instance, you do have a 34 felony convicted felon that lives in the oval office. if they need the address, i'm happy to give it to them. but what is going on here in terms of trying to kind of exact some type of pressure and a pound of flesh out of these mayors? >> yeah. so first of all, shout out to all the mayors. and i am saying all the mayors. it was definitely interesting to listen to the mayor of new york. but nevertheless, i will say that the mayors as a whole, they really did kind of stand their ground against what they were attempting to do to them. and so i really do applaud them. they

were coming up with baseless statistics on crime. and literally they brought the mayor of boston, mayor wu, who is absolutely ranked as the safest large city in the country. and they were trying to lecture her on crime and immigrants. it was absolutely insane. and so that was why i brought out the hypocrisy and to keep them from trying to come after me and say, oh, i'm engaging in personalities by talking about trump. i did not mention his name, so i decided that i would work through or around the rules and make sure that i laid out that as they are so outraged by these immigrants and the crime that they're bringing, and not to mention city law enforcement, local law enforcement, they are always going after crime. and they don't say, oh, you committed a murder. oh, but you're an immigrant. well, let me let you go. right. so they are always focused on crime.

they continue to say things like the illegals and that they broke the law coming in. but what they're not telling the american people is that it is a civil violation. it is not a criminal violation to enter the country illegally. it's not it's not a criminal. it's a crime. it's not a crime. which is why they're so frustrated, because they really want our local law enforcement to go out and round up people when they could be looking out for the murderers and the sexual abusers, as well as the robbers. they want them to go and round people up on civil accusations. and so that's why i wanted to point out, don't give me this fake outrage about criminals roaming our streets. when you guys stand ten toes down for the biggest criminal that we have ever seen, go into the white house. >> you know, less than a minute. and congresswoman, you always have a message and a strong one that you deliver. i got lots of people asking, what should we be doing? what should people be doing to be able to manage this

kind of flooding of the zone by the republicans through trump, of the confusion and the chaos, what should they be doing? >> so, number one, if it's something stupid, like people focusing on my accent and whether or not i went to private school or not, it is a distraction. they are definitely trying to distract you. so anything that sounds stupid, just ignore that and then pay attention to the other things. but also, we really need someone that wants to be the messenger on a daily basis who can combat the nonsense and the lies that are coming out of the oval office, as well as from the press secretary. but if you are sitting at home and you are frustrated and you're like, what can i do? we've got three special elections. if we can flip those special elections, then that means that the democrats control the house before the midterms. so i am just begging and asking everyone to get engaged with those special elections down in florida. and then we'll see when the one will be announced in new york. in addition to that, it is so important that we just

educate ourselves and we talk to our friends and family because they are going to trust you before they trust somebody like me who's a politician. because as we know, so many of our politicians are liars. and as of now, a lot of them are criminals. >> congresswoman jasmine crockett, thanks for being here today and getting us started. it's good to see you. >> good to see you, too. >> still to come on the katie phang show, dismantling the dough. trump's deep cuts this week at the department of education. why it's very, very bad news for the millions of student loan borrowers who still student loan borrowers who still owe money to uncle sam. don't when our numbers guy, frank, goes on vacation the deals on the most affordable german-engineered car brand in america get even better. he's coming back! hop in during volkswagen deal days. the deals are in while frank is out. models during volkswagen

deal day. >> introducing mcafee plus all in one protection that goes beyond your devices. it protects you, your identity and privacy. with mcafee plus, you can enjoy life online confidently because safety has a feeling all its ow. >> work. play, blink. relief, work, play. blink. relief the work, play. blink. relief the only what will you do when the power goes out? power outages can be unpredictable and inconvenient, but with a generac home standby generator, your life goes on uninterrupted. because when your generac detects a power outage, it automatically powers up, giving your family the security and peace of mind they deserve. we don't have to worry about whether we lose power or not. if the utility company does not come through,

our generac does. after the hurricane happened, we just want to be prepared for anything. 8 out of 10 home generators are generac, with thousands of satisfied customers. number one thing geneto prepare forerac, is extended power outages. don't make it so hard on yourself, have a generac home standby generator. and owning a generator is easier than ever. special financing and low monthly payment options are available, and if you call now, you will also receive a free 5 year warranty valued at over $500. call or go online now to request your free quote. pronamel clinical enamel strength can help us to keep our enamel for a lifetime. it's backed by science it is clinically proven to strengthen our teeth. i would recommend this toothpaste to everybody. it's really an amazing product. (♪♪) the first time you try bounce, it hits you. your laundry feels way fresher, softer. so you start to wonder. if i put a sheet of bounce on the finance guy, will it make him softer? bounce can't do it all but for better laundry,

♪ put a sheet on it with bounce. ♪ for all those making it big out there... ...shouldn't your mobile service be able to keep up with you? get wifi speeds up to a gig at home and on the go. introducing powerboost, only from xfinity mobile. now that's big. xfinity internet customers, cut your mobile bill in half vs. t-mobile, verizon, and at&t for your first year. plus, ask how to get the new samsung galaxy s25+ on us.

friday plans pills.com to get this deal. it's friday plans pills.com. >> all of this. >> can be overwhelming, but it is important to remember there are still checks and balances. there's a lot being thrown at the american people right now, and it is really important to pay attention to it, but it is just as important to recognize how many of those things are getting announced. but they're not happening at all, or at least not yet. just try to remember we are not looking at the final score. we are still in the first quarter. keep your pads on. the game has just begun. >> as donald trump reportedly prepares to sign an executive order to dismantle the department of education, his administration has already begun chipping away at the department's staffing and resources. job cuts at the department this week targeted staffers who field complaints from federal student loan

holders, leaving thousands of borrowers in the dark if they're experiencing any difficulties. also this week, education secretary linda mcmahon, a former wrestling executive with no education leadership experience at all, laid out what she called, quote, a final mission that includes refocusing taxpayer funded education to, quote, meaningful learning in math, reading, science and history. not divisive dei programs and gender ideology before she ultimately shuts down the department in its entirety. joining me now is randi weingarten, president of the american federation of teachers. randi, i'm a huge fan of all teachers. i think teachers are underpaid, underappreciated, undervalued. but now it goes a step further. they're trying to eliminate the existence of the department of education. why? if it doesn't make a difference here, a republican or a democrat, is dismantling the dough going to be such a disaster for our country?

>> so first. >> it's a disaster symbolically. as much as it's a disaster in reality. think about a country whose president basically says as their first acts, i'm getting rid of education. what does that say about the future? what does that say about take all the things that republicans believe in entrepreneurship, ingenuity, creativity. how do you say to a country, i'm taking i'm getting rid of the one department, the smallest department in the federal government, the department of education. now on the facts. this is what the department of education does. yes, it is about opportunity. forget about all these other words. what the department of education does. sorry, i am a civics teacher. no, lbj 1960s, 1950s. he was a teacher in texas of basically of

disproportionately mexican american children. and he saw them come into his elementary school without shoes in total poverty. but they saw the school as their salvation. and what he brought to the white house with him, that was part of the war on poverty. white kids, black kids, mexican american kids was let's find ways to level up opportunity to give kids food, to give kids tutors for literacy, to have paraprofessionals, to have reading specialists to lower class sizes, have federal money to do that. the same in terms of kids with disabilities idea have federal money so that kids with disabilities are not in the basement anymore. so it's federal money that disproportionately goes to red states. that actually is opportunity. so when somebody says die, it's opportunity. it's so we can create that ladder of opportunity. it's so we can make

sure that kids can succeed. poor kids, kids with disabilities, kids who want to go to career, tech ed, kids who are first generation college goers to get some scholarship money. that's what the department of education does. and that's why you're seeing across the country people saying, pete, 90% of the kids in america go to public schools. they know what title one is. they know what idea is the federal government does not control education. the states do, local school boards do. this is about opportunity. that is why so many people are so mad about it, because they're just taking opportunity away from kids that don't have it. so billionaires, kids of billionaires, they have it. they go to private schools, everyone else, 90% go to public schools. don't take away their opportunity. >> so let's stay on the facts. >> sorry, i'm. really angry about. >> this because. >> i'm really angry. i taught kids in clara barton high school in brooklyn, new york. virtually

all of them got title one funds. i taught ap gov. one of the things that they just cut was the we the people competition, which was which was taught in ruby red districts like van wert, ohio and deep blue districts like my district. why? if we need civics, would you cut the we the people competition? it's $11 million. why would you do that? >> because they want the people to be ignorant. they want the people to not have a proper basis of education, and they want to make sure that the disadvantaged stay disadvantaged. which is why what you said is important for us to reiterate here to the department of education does not control the curriculum of your kids school. >> no, in fact. >> it's local. it's local and state. >> in fact, again, some facts. >> yes. >> in the in 2015, right before donald trump became president, the first time there was a bipartisan coalition that got

the education, the elementary and secondary act changed. so the department of education controls virtually nothing. it basically your local school board and the state education department of your state control everything from curriculum to graduation requirements. the department is an is a supplement. it helps deal with opportunity to help level things up. >> so let's also stay on the facts. trump can't just do this. linda mcmahon cannot just get rid of the doe. it takes congress to be able to approve this measure. what is the aft doing right now to try to protect against those types of moves? >> so, you know, we have congress is going to be, excuse me, going to be extraordinarily important on any number of issues in the next few weeks. one, there's the budget issues. two it's next year's budget

issues. so what we are seeing speaker johnson doing and donald trump doing, and elon musk doing is basically taking a hatchet to opportunity. so if you combined the federal funding for education, that basically goes to poor kids and to kids with disabilities, with medicaid funding, with food assistance, you're basically saying that the entire 21st century and the middle of the 20th century should basically be pushed back to what we had in the 19th century, that all the things that we've done to level up opportunity to make sure that that families can eat, to make sure that families have medical care, to make sure that families have this education opportunity. fillers. that's what congress has to do. they have to be the bulwark. they have to keep that.

so yes, we're going to go to congress and say, don't give up the department of education. it takes 60 votes in the senate to do it. but equally important is looking at the whole thing to say what we did in from fdr on is to say every family in america should have a shot, and we're to level it up to make sure that they have that shot so they can have their american dream. yes, the billionaire should have their american dream, but we need to have fairness and growth in the economy. we need both. and so we're going to congress to basically say, don't cut education funding and don't gut the entity that actually makes sure that things are fair. >> randi weingarten, on behalf of my ten year old daughter, on behalf of me, as i sit here and i remember the names of all of my teachers that were there to give me a helping hand, i want to say thank you. thank you for caring for all the kids, no matter who they are and where they are, and for making sure

that they have a future. thank you. thank you for your advocacy, i appreciate it. thank you. coming up next, good trouble, which is a randi weingarten special. the ongoing fight to ensure that all americans have the right to vote as the nation prepares to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the civil rights march in selma, alabama, that became known as bloody sunday. that's coming up next. >> i feel like new sunglasses, like a brand new pair of jeans. like a brand new pair of jeans. brand new. if you're frustrated with occasional bloating or gas, your body's giving you signs. it's time to try align. align probiotic was specifically designed by gastroenterologists to help relieve your occasional bloating and gas. when you feel the signs, it's time to try align. showing.

>> we're consumer. cellular gets great coverage. we use the same powers as big wireless, so you get the same coverage. >> wow. >> for unlimited talk and text with reliable coverage starting at just $20, call or visit consumer cellular. >> everyone needs a vacation eventually. >> and when i need a. >> hotel, trivago compares. hotel prices from hundreds of sites so you can save up to 40%. >> smart. simple. >> smart. simple. >> two of my imagine checking your own heart with medical precision, from anywhere. introducing kardiamobile 6l, the most advanced personal ekg outside the hospital. with kardiamobile 6l, you can get six-times more heart data than any smartwatch. kardiamobile 6l gives my doctor six-times the information that he would need to... help diagnose me. the more data i have, the better decision i will make about caring for your cardiovascular health. kardiamobile 6l is fda-cleared to detect three of the most common arrhythmias, including atrial fibrillation, a leading cause of stroke.

using the kardia device helps me know for sure that i am not in atrial fib. with the kardia device i have data that tells me this is what's going on. that's priceless. check your heart with kardiamobile 6l, the world's most advanced personal ekg that gives you more data than any smartwatch. on sale now for a limited time. don't wait, get yours today at kardia.com or amazon. the internet with one click. incogni stops identity thieves and protects your privacy. turn on one switch to limit unwanted robocalls and spam emails, and to reduce exposure to data ethos.com. want.

>> you got. >> it, kate. >> you can take. >> home everything. >> those tongs, ice cream >> those tongs, ice cream machines, dessert bar tray, that you want high-performance, long-lasting, affordable tools. you want harbor freight tools. whatever you do, do it for less at harbor freight. save even more at our parking lot sale going on now. >> this weekend marks the 60th anniversary of the historic bloody sunday march, when hundreds of peaceful protesters and civil rights activists were horrifically attacked and beaten by alabama state troopers while marching for the right to vote in selma. today, the battle for fair and free elections for all americans goes on, while cases against co-president elon musk and his doge tech bros steal a lot of the focus and the attention, there are lawyers who

are fighting the good fight in courtrooms across the country to eliminate voter suppression. joining me now is elizabeth frost. she's the litigation chair at the elias law group. elizabeth, it's an honor to have you on the show. and i meant what i said. you guys are fighting the good fight across the country. let's start with texas. this is important because people need to realize that when presidents change, these administrations change. priorities change, as we've seen. and right now, the trump department of injustice, as i call it, has decided not to fight against voter suppression laws that are in texas. get us caught up to speed on that. >> yeah, absolutely. >> first of all, thank you so much for having me, katie. it's a real pleasure and honor to be here. and you're absolutely right. i mean, what we are seeing right now, i would say that it is not business as usual to have the department of justice suddenly withdraw its claims. but of course, we saw in georgia the request being made

to the new attorney general for the department of justice to withdraw its claims against a voter suppression law in georgia that's been litigated there for a while. and then just now, we've seen the department of justice withdraw its redistricting claims in texas. unfortunately, the department of justice is no longer working to ensure that civil rights are protected. and my law firm, elias law group, and other organizations around the country are filling in that void. >> so, elizabeth, let's also talk about a proactive lawsuit that was also brought by you guys going on behalf of the dnc, going against the administration. it was filed last week. there's been a flurry of litigation activity, especially focused on the doge stuff, which is why i really wanted to have you on today to talk about these voter rights. talk about why it was so important to sue on a particular executive order that trump entered, that purportedly says that he has control over all federal agencies, even those that are supposed to have independence, like the federal elections commission.

>> yeah. that's right. so we're representing the dnc, the sec and the d, triple c, all of the major democratic party committees in this lawsuit. and i think it's a critically important one in this executive order, trump declared that he and the attorney general are the official deciders of any kind of federal law implemented by any employee of any agency, including the independent ones. what we are specifically worried about in this lawsuit is the federal elections commission, which is the bipartisan, independent body created by congress that enforces the federal election laws. so the parties and campaigns go to them to find out what they're allowed to do and how they're allowed to spend money in federal elections, and what donald trump is trying to do with this executive order is put himself, put the thumb on the scale and put himself as the decider. in this highly fraught, partizan charged environment. one of the things that we focus on when we

filed this lawsuit is that the fec, as we know it today, was was really bolstered in the in the wake of watergate when it was made clear that we absolutely need bipartisan and fair, a fair environment for these kinds of issues to be sorted out. so we look forward to fighting this in court. >> you guys also had a great win in arizona, the ninth circuit court of appeals agreeing that there are certain laws in arizona that require proof, documentary. proof of citizenship. citizenship. excuse me? in order to vote that they are suppressing the ability for people to be able to vote. why is there a focus by not only your firm, but others about this idea? i mean, the republicans love to say, oh, what is the issue? of course we want to make sure that you are who you are when you come to vote. of course, we want election integrity, but why is it more insidious when these laws, like the ones that you guys challenged in arizona, are

enacted? >> yeah, this is a first of all, it's an incredibly important victory. and i'm so proud of the work that my firm did in this case. and absolutely, the ninth circuit got it right. this is another place where i think it's incredibly important to look under under the surface. right. because as you said, on the surface, you know, oh, you know, elections are for citizens. we should be making sure that citizens are the ones voting in those elections. the thing is, is the republicans have have conducted an exhaustive search to try and prove trump's claims that he made in 2020 that non-citizens are voting in elections and impacting them. this was like under the couch cushions kind of search. and over and over, investigations, even by republicans, show that it is a complete and total fantasy. that fantasy, however, has not stopped legislators. and now the republican controlled congress from perpetuating this myth and arguing that we need different laws. here's the thing we know what happens when states

pass proof of citizenship laws, because kansas tried it a decade ago. and what happened is over 31,000 american citizens had their right to vote, denied them as they sat in this limbo with their voter registrations. people simply don't have, in general, all americans don't have this documentary proof of citizenship that these laws require in order to be able to vote. we're seeing that with the save act that the republicans are going to try and push through congress. and, you know, that act would effectively require anyone who wants to register to vote in a federal election to prove their citizenship, most likely with a birth certificate or a passport. but and the and the birth certificate for use, it has to match your name. we know that half of americans don't have passports, and they're expensive to get. and what we're going to see is literally millions and millions of americans not being able to vote. if the republicans in congress have their way.

>> like women who maybe change their name when they get married. and so, oh, we're going to disenfranchize women. no shocker there. and we're also going to disenfranchize people that don't have money to be able to secure passports. it is a tale as old as time. elizabeth frost, my hat off to you guys at the elias law group democracy docket. keep on fighting that good fight. it's good to see you. thank you. >> thank you so much for having me. >> thank you. coming up next, a tariff tantrum. trump's latest flip flop on his tariffs against mexico, canada and china. and what goods you can expect to be safe from trump's import tax. economist and former adviser to president joe biden, heather heather boucher on how america's ceos are navigating the chaos and what it all means for your wallet. don't go anywhere. >> introducing mcafee plus all in one protection that goes beyond your devices. it protects you, your identity and privacy.

with mcafee plus, you can enjoy life online confidently because safety has a feeling all its own. >> hi. >> i'm. >> ellen. >> i'm portia. >> we're talking to. >> cameras that. >> are in our. >> living room about kind science. >> i used to. >> think the more money i spent on. >> my skincare. >> the more. >> effective it. >> would be. the better it. >> would be, the better i'd look. but it's not true. >> with kind science. >> my skin. >> feels cleaner. >> it feels more hydrated. i noticed a difference in. >> my skin. >> i noticed a difference in yours. >> people see. >> you and they make a big deal about your skin. >> and it feels. >> really good. and that's all thanks to kind science. tons of customers have seen results. >> the bags. >> under her eyes. yeah. >> it looks smooth. >> yeah. smooth, smooth. well, who doesn't want smooth? who doesn't? so here's what i'm going to do. something i've never done before. i am going to give a kind science degeneres deal. clever. yeah, because my name. i got it. yeah. okay.

>> what are you offering? >> you'll get four of my favorite products. the gentle cleanser, the micro exfoliant, which i love. i use it as a mask. and then the firming serum. they're going to get that. i love the firming serum so much because firms it up, firms it up. keep it firm. the hydration cream is amazing because it really. >> does feel like your face just took a drink of water. >> yes. >> but it does. yeah it does. it actually does. a clinical study of kind science users, 94% had less visible lines and wrinkles. that's so great. well, because it's great product. so i'm also going to give some gifts. you know, the brush that you love so much. the facial. yeah. so the brush the radiance oil which is a really great product. and free shipping. that's $200 worth of products for 49.95. this whole thing is under 50 bucks. yes, 49.95. that's amazing. really? i know 60 day money back guarantee. you guys. >> this degeneres deal won't last forever. scan the code. go to shine science.com or call 856. ellen.

>> that's 850 6ellen to. >> order. right now. >> i just want people to try kind science. >> this one goes better with the walls. >> this is so much easier than the home improvement store. >> so which. >> would you recommend? >> do you like brown? >> yeah. >> some things are. >> just. >> better at home. with empire's. >> home floor advantage, you. >> can compare samples. >> in your own space. plus. >> i'll be here to. >> help you with. every step of. >> the process. >> do you remember trying to figure out pricing and installation? >> there's the. >> measurement fee, delivery fee. >> restocking fee, convenience fee. >> we have clear all inclusive. >> pricing, no surprises. >> and installation is on your schedule. it could even be installed tomorrow. >> call or visit empire today.com and get the home floor advantage. >> it really is better at home. >> 805. 82 300. empire. >> today. msnbc premium gives you early access and ad free listening to rachel maddow chart topping series, msnbc original

podcasts, exclusive bonus content, and all of your favorite msnbc shows. now ad free. subscribe on apple podcasts. msnbc presents a new podcast hosted by jen psaki. each week, she talks to some of the biggest names in democratic politics, with the biggest ideas for how democrats can win again. the blueprint with jen psaki. listen now. >> canada has been ripping us off for years on tariffs, for lumber and for dairy products, 250%. nobody ever talks about that 250% tariff, which is taking advantage of our farmers. so that's not going to happen anymore. we're going to be they'll be met with the exact same tariff unless they drop it. >> convicted felon donald trump is running the country like he ran his businesses, which isn't great news for us because his company filed for bankruptcy six times. he won on promises that

he'd fix the economy. but trump's tariff tantrum tipped off a trade war with canada, mexico and china. and at its lowest point this week, the stock market lost more than $2 trillion and unemployment. well, it's increased to 4.1%. i got to ask, is this what winning looks like? joining me now is heather boucher, research fellow at the harvard kennedy school, former member of the council of economic advisors and former chief economist for the invest in america cabinet at the white house during the joe biden administration. heather, thanks so much for joining us. straight out of the gate. give me a really quick breakdown on how tariffs actually work, because there's so much misinformation that's being pushed out by the trump administration. >> well, tariffs. >> in general. >> they're a tax on goods that. come into the country. and you know, often we think of these as a policy. >> that can help revitalize. >> manufacturing or things that are made in the country. >> and i think what we.

>> have here is a real. misunderstanding on the part of the trump administration about what creates economic growth. >> you know. >> during the biden administration, we focused on doing. >> things that would revitalize and invest in really important sectors across the country, like semiconductors and clean energy. and what we saw was this massive private investment in those new industries, creating economic opportunity all across the country. and yet this administration is not continuing those kinds of policies and threatening to pare back on the investments in semiconductors, for example, that president talked about last week. and instead, this indiscriminate relative, very chaotic tariff policy that the president is putting in place and pretending that that will have benefits for american workers and american communities across the country in the way that we need them to see benefits. >> you know, heather, for example, the united states and mexico have a trade agreement. trump actually signed it in january of 2020 to get rid of

nafta. it's called the us cma. how does something like that trade agreement work with these flip flops? with the tariff announcements that we get from trump? >> well it doesn't right. i mean, we have an agreement and we've had this long standing agreement with canada and mexico. and now the president is coming in. and, you know, sometimes on an hourly basis, changing his mind on what he thinks the tariff policy will be. i mean, if nothing else, that is no way to run a country. it's chaotic. it means that businesses can't make sound decisions, investors can't make decisions. there's likely a lot of capital sitting on the sidelines now waiting to see where this all ends up. and it undermines our ability to make agreements with other countries about what kinds of trade we want to see. i mean, there's no doubt trade is so important, but we need it to be benefiting american workers and american communities. but part of that is having same policies that are, you know, that are thought through and aren't in this sort of very chaotic way that the president is doing it.

>> and let's be clear, trump won in large part because he made promises that apparently have been empty to fix the economy. but according to a recent reuters poll, a majority of americans have their 54% disapprove of his moves. and we've also seen how much chaos is caused in the stock market because trump is just all over the place when he does this, how do any of these financial and economic moves by donald trump benefit the american worker? >> well, quite frankly, they don't. and let's be very, very clear. i think what is happening here, you know, the republicans have in congress have just put forward their budget plan a couple of weeks ago where they want to cut taxes for the richest americans and the wealthiest corporations by over $4 trillion. that's a plan. it's the only real plan that i see coming out of this administration, a clear agenda to give money back to the richest people in the country. and at the same time, all of this chaos that's keeping us distracted, when in reality,

what this is about is tax cuts for the rich. and we know that those tax cuts will lead to cuts in services all across the country. the kinds of things that elon musk is putting in place in a very chaotic way, those, you know, those those are threatened now to really have long term implications. if we see these tax cuts going into effect. >> you know, i think to heather, something that underscores the importance of smart, competent cabinet officials is, of course, not having somebody like elon musk driving the bus. but we look at our treasury secretary, right. who by all admissions is not somebody who doesn't have experience in the world of economics and finance. but how important is it then to make sure that you have a treasury secretary who actually tells the president this doesn't work, this is actually hurting the american economy, and you shouldn't be doing this. >> well, the president has made very clear that he wants folks around him that will implement only his views or elon musk's views, right. time and again, we've seen that musk has had this incredible power to make decisions for agencies all

across the government, whether or not it makes sense for those agencies or for the services that americans need and rely on. so it's really undermining the expertise of the folks he did put in place. and, you know, i think they have very difficult jobs, especially when it's your job like this, treasury secretary, to make sure that the economy remains stable and is on a solid footing, which, of course, right now many americans do not believe that is the case. >> very quickly, before i have to let you go, though, heather, what can americans be doing right now to maybe protect themselves or to gird themselves against what looks like serious economic turmoil? >> well, americans made their decision in november, and i think many of us knew that this is this is what folks were were told would happen. we were told that this would be about tax cuts for the rich. the president did say that he would focus on prices and jobs, and that is certainly not what we see him focusing on. so people need to continue to, you know, make their voices heard on things that matter. but having an economy like we saw over the previous four years that

delivered jobs month after month, that closed economic inequality, that invested in manufacturing and cutting edge sectors that are important to economic competitiveness all across the country. those are the kinds of priorities that if americans want to see, they're going to have to raise their voices. >> and for the people in the back, because you were so gracious not to say it, that was the biden harris administration that did all of those things that benefited americans. heather boucher, thank you for taking the time to be here and explain these important issues to our viewers. >> thank you. katie. >> coming up, black girl magic, continuing our celebration of women's history month with four time tony nominee and trailblazing choreographer camille a brown, and why women should be shameless about putting their name and interest out in the world, and how she weaves her particular blend of black girl magic into her breathtaking broadway dance numbers. she's going to join me numbers. she's going to join me live on set. coming up -what've you got there, larry? -time machine. you gonna go back and see how the pyramids were built or something? nope. ellen and i want to go on vacation, so i'm going to go back to last week

and buy a winning lottery ticket. -can i come? -only room for one. how am i getting home? sittin' on my lap like last time, ronald. fine, but i'm bringing this. [ whirring ] alright. or...you could try one of these savings options. the right money moves aren't as far-fetched as you think. there it is. see? told you it was going to all work out. thanks, future me. ♪♪ at bombas, we dream of comfort and softness. which is why we make the best socks and slippers in the history of feet. ♪♪ visit bombas.com and get 20% off your first order. my mental health was better. but uncontrollable movements called td,tardive dyskinesia, started disrupting my day. td felt embarrassing. i felt like disconnecting. i asked my doctor about treating my td, and learned about ingrezza. ♪ ingrezza ♪ ingrezza is clinically proven to treat td, quickly reducing td by greater than five times at two weeks. number-one prescribed ingrezza

has dosing that's always one pill, once daily. and you can keep taking most mental health meds. ingrezza can cause depression, suicidal thoughts, or actions in patients with huntington's disease. call your doctor if you become depressed, have sudden behavior or mood changes, or suicidal thoughts. don't take ingrezza if allergic. serious side effects may include allergic reactions like sudden, potentially fatal swelling and hives, sleepiness, the most common side effect, and heart rhythm problems. know how ingrezza affects you before operating a car or dangerous machinery. report fever, stiff muscles, or problems thinking, as these might be life threatening. shaking, stiffness, drooling, and trouble with moving or balance may occur. take control by asking your doctor about ingrezza. ♪ ingrezza ♪ seat. economy. perhaps they need to call it something else. >> menopause really. >> impacted my hair. >> i experienced postpartum

shedding and nutrafol had a formula for that. >> my hair. >> has changed throughout my life, so. life, so. >> i'm grateful nutrafol has a when my doctor gave me breztri for my copd i noticed things changed. breztri gave me better breathing starting within 5 minutes. it also reduced flare-ups. breztri won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. it is not for asthma. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. don't take breztri more than prescribed. breztri may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. ask your doctor about breztri. devices. >> it protects you, your. >> identity and privacy. with mcafee plus, you can enjoy life online confidently because safety has a feeling all its own. >> for a plant based, healthy blood pressure support, there's one brand at walmart that stands

above the rest. it's super beats. discover why more cardiologists recommend super cardiologists recommend super mike had a heartealth attack a year ago. but he's still.. living in the red. with a very high risk of another attack. with his risk factors his recommended ldl-c level should be below 55. are you at risk? learn how to get a free ldl-c test at attackheartdisease.com. warning. >> for republican senators. get behind all of trump's cabinet picks or face political consequences. >> we have. >> republicans now. advocating for the elimination of health care for the poor. >> just hours. >> after swearing. >> to. >> preserve. >> protect and defend the constitution of the united. >> states, donald trump issued an executive order to defy one of its most consequential amendments. >> we are. >> all watching. >> and waiting to. >> see who is. >> going. >> to hold the line. don't miss the. >> weekends. >> saturday and sunday mornings at 8:00. >> on msnbc. >> and the new york times

crowned her the queen of broadway. she currently has two count them two hit shows on the great white way, hell's kitchen and gypsy. and after becoming the first black director at the metropolitan opera, she is still carving out a path that's distinctly her own. thankfully, we've got front row seats, though, to watch her exhilarating journey. joining me now is camille, a brown four time tony award nominee, choreographer and director. camille, it is an honor to have you grace me by coming here today. i'm so excited. i am going to read this because i want to make sure i don't miss anyone. so you are. you are currently with gypsy? yes. jerome robbins was the original choreographer and director in 1959, and the show currently has audra mcdonald, a black actress direction by george c wolfe, a black director, and you with your amazing choreography, which hopefully gets nominated for a tony on april 1st. talk about why it's so important, though,

to make sure that it's your own imprint, your own creativity that goes into shows like this, which a lot of people have already seen. >> yeah, i oh, thank. >> you so. >> much for having me. my mother always taught me to always be myself, no matter what spaces that i'm in, and particularly because i am a black woman, it is important for me to stand in my truth and who i am and share my voice through movement, through storytelling, regardless of what space it is. so i'm really excited to have these different avenues to really speak my voice and people hear me. >> and how important is it to lean into your background, your experience, to be able to share it with the masses because you're doing it in a way that's a beautiful medium that actually touches people in different ways. >> thank you. it's who i am. it's where i'm from. i'm originally from jamaica, queens, new york, so to have a little piece of myself at hell's kitchen, at gypsy in my own company is really important. and

i think because i have a we all have specific stories, and i think it's very important for us as a, as a country and as a world to know that there are stories, there are individual stories, specific stories, real stories. and i think that also speaks to the universality of things, too. >> and we were talking during the break about during a time when it seems like there are forces, dark forces that are trying so hard to silence communities of color to make sure that women are kind of taken back decades in terms of progress. how how does it make you feel to be able to be such a presence right now on the great white way to have hell's kitchen and gypsy, to have your dance company, to be able to make a mark in so many different ways. >> i feel empowered and i feel grounded, and i feel proud to lift up my teachers and my parents and my family, and to

represent them in all ways and to be able to speak my truth is really profound to me in this time, and i think it's really important for us, no matter what. we hold the power when we create our own art. so regardless of what's going in the world, i sometimes i say to myself, i can't change everything, but i can choose how i want to walk in the world. and i am deciding to walk with my art. >> and to have pride in who you are and where you come from. but let's not sugarcoat it. the journey has not always been easy. i read that you met with a prospective manager and you said, i am a woman, i am a black woman. and that's kind of the message that has to be delivered when you're looking to be able to work with different productions. >> yes, absolutely. shout out to michael moore, who is still my manager. that happened over ten years ago. and it's the truth. it's like, if i'm going to do this, if i'm going to stand,

then i have to understand that sometimes the playing field is uneven and what comes with that. so it has definitely been hard and exhausting. but i'm up for the challenge. >> you're not settling, which is important, right? it's this idea that you are coming from the space of being a black woman. and with that comes all of the cultural, historical, you know, kind of almost like the it's not a burden in a negative way, although it can be very hard sometimes to carry that. but you're doing it unapologetically. you're saying these are the gifts that i bring to the table and kind of take it or leave it? you either want it and you see the value or you don't. >> and i think it's also full circle, too. it's very circular in terms of lifting up the people that came before you, being in conversation and connection with the people who are alongside you, and also making space for people that are coming after you. i think that's all. it's a it's a, it's a dance. it's a circle. >> speaking of dance, i mean, talk about your company because

it's not just you lend your talents creatively to all of these productions, but you also have your own dance company. >> yes, i do, and i call it my home base. it's what it's where i can put everything in my head. all of the love, all the joy, all the pain, the struggles, everything that happens into my art. and to use dancers and musicians to collaborate with. we just had our season at the joyce theater early last month, and it was sold out, and it couldn't have gone any better than i had hoped. so it was wonderful. >> well, camille brown, you are an inspiration for me. continue to do the amazing work that you're doing. and thank you so much for being here today, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and my thanks to all of you, as always, for joining me. you can catch me back here next saturday at noon eastern. remember to follow us on social media using the handle at katie phang show, including on blue sky. you can also catch clips of the show on youtube, and still you can listen to every episode of the show as a podcast for free. there's a qr code on your

free. there's a qr code on your screen to follow now, but please mom where's my homework? mommy! hey hun - sometimes, you just need a moment. self-care has never been this easy. gummy vitamins from nature made, online comes. the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand. >> with digital threats. so turn on nordvpn and encrypt your. >> online traffic. >> get 72% off nordvpn. from the #1 rated brand in cordless outdoor power, the ego 22-inch aluminum deck mower. the most powerful mower in its class, producing the perfect razor sharp cut. find an ego retailer near you. that grimy film on your teeth? dr. g? ♪♪ it's actually the buildup of plaque bacteria which can cause cavities. most toothpastes quit working in minutes. but crest pro-health's antibacterial fluoride protects all day. so it stops cavities before they start...

crest. certified organic cotton, wool and latex, plus ergonomic coils to support your body's natural curves for cool and restorative sleep. featuring a one year in-home sleep trial, complete your bed with organic pillows and bedding. shop today at avocado when you really need to sleep. you reach for the really good stuff. zzzquil ultra helps you sleep better and longer when you need it most. its non-habit forming and powered by the makers of nyquil. ♪♪ huh, noom has glp-1 meds now? yes, noom combines medications with healthy habits so you can lose the weight and keep it off. yeah, glp-1s starting at $149. that's noom smart. noom.

the smart way to lose weight. mess. >> oh. >> but poop potty pads use a pad technology invented for people to deliver a higher standard of wetness and odor control for pets. they have a mind boggling capacity to hold wetness and eliminate odor, leaving it clean, stink free, and dry underneath. wow. get pooch potty padsing. go to

friday plans pills.com to get this deal. it's friday plans pills.com. >> a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters. >> here. in new york. >> welcome, everyone. >> to alex witt reports. we have this. breaking news to start the hour. house republican leaders have just released their plan to avoid a government shutdown, which could come in less than a week. gop so-called clean continuing resolution would fund the government until the end of the fiscal