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before, including the third successful catch of the super heavy booster and those chopstick arms. i mean, the fact that that has happened three times in a row, the fact that it almost feels normal, it's not lost on any of us who follow the space world how incredible that is. but it is also meant to test the boundaries of what is possible. it is meant to test to the point of failure, which is, of course, what we saw for the second time in a row when it created that massive explosion, that we saw debris streaking across the sky, temporarily grounding flights. and so this is what is going to be looked at with the spacex led faa investigation. they're going to be looking to make sure that people are not in harm's way. of course, this was unmanned, but looking to make sure that there isn't significant damage that's happening as a result of these failures. but separately from this mission, we're seeing the crew ten launch that is still slated to happen on wednesday. that is using the falcon nine rocket. this is a tried and true rocket. totally different. has
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brought astronauts to the international space station before. and of course, so many eyes on this mission with butch and sunny. i'll talk about that in just a moment. but let's hear from the commander of the of the crew, the spacex crew. ahead of this mission everyone is talking about. >> they really are in. >> good spirits, you know. of course they're ready to come home. and of course we're ready to launch. but the most important thing is that we do both of those things safely. a typical duration for a space station mission is about six months, but just in the last ten years, we've had five u.s. astronauts that have flown over 290 days. and so this so the duration that butch and sunny have been flying is a little bit longer than our typical six months, but it's also not on the higher end of what we've seen over the last ten years. and so we're looking forward to getting up there. but i think most of all, it's going to be a very typical and nominal es handover. >> so a couple of things i just wanted to clarify real fast. so crew ten is set to launch on wednesday night. crew ten will
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get to the international space station. and think of it like a game of tag. crew ten is not going to bring down butch and sunny, but once crew ten arrives, then crew nine will be able to come back home with butch and sunny on board. and of course, everyone is waiting to see that moment happen. >> alex they sure are. okay, thank you so much. extraordinary video by the way. thanks. in moments, y republicans and ten democrats voted to censure congressman al green for protesting tuesday night and why the matter might not be closed. good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters in new york. welcome to alex witt reports. we begin with this breaking news as house republicans, just in the last hour, unveiling a funding bill one week before the march 14th deadline to avoid a government shutdown. that stopgap measure would keep the government funded through september 30th. but democratic leaders are opposed, and it is unclear if that cr can pass with only republican support. here's congresswoman jasmine crockett just short time
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ago. >> at the end of the day, we know that the cuts that the republicans are proposing, that these cuts are not only going to impact democrats and independents, but republicans as well. and so right now, the democrats are carrying the load for not only our constituents, but for theirs, too. >> and new today, mounting pressure on canada with the threat of escalating trade wars. a new report says that canada is being hit with tariffs from china, while president trump floats the idea of a 250% tax on canadian dairy products. >> it's unbelievably chaotic. it's bad for business. it's bad for our economy. i mean, you know, if you're going to be bad, at least be consistent so that we can have a debate about tariff policy. but this chaos that that trump is causing is just terrible for the economy, terrible for relationships. and you see it reflected in the stock market. >> and nbc news has confirmed the centers for disease control and prevention is expanding research into potential links
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between vaccines and autism. the possibility of a link has been repeatedly debunked by hundreds of scientific studies, but a spokesman for the department of health and human services says trump mentioned autism in his address to congress, adding that americans deserve high quality research and transparency. we've got a lot of reporters and analysts ready to discuss all of these new developments, and we're going to begin with nbc's yamiche alcindor, who is following the president in west palm beach, florida, for us. so just moments ago, yamiche, the president reacted to the funding bill. can you share what he said? >> that's right. just in the last few minutes here, president trump is urging republicans to get behind this continuing resolution that was introduced today by house speaker mike johnson to avert a government shutdown this week. i want to read to you part of what president trump posted on truth social. he wrote the house and senate have put together, under the circumstances, a very good funding bill. all republicans should vote, please. yes, next week. he went on to say
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democrats would do anything they can to shut down our government. we can't let that happen. we have to remain united. no dissent, fight for another day when the timing is right. so that's the president accusing democrats of wanting a government shutdown. now, democrats have been saying that they're going to remain likely united. and there's a big question of whether or not that will stay. but there have been a lot of republicans who have been saying that they need to remain united in order to avoid a government shutdown. it's very interesting because mike johnson here, the house speaker, he can't really lose too many republicans, maybe as much as two maybe, is all it takes to sort of derail this. all of this comes, of course, as the president is facing big questions about his tariff war and his trade war. we saw this past week the president putting trade, trade and tariffs in place and then saying, actually, i'm going to pause and change my mind. he faced questions about this changing policy that we saw happen on the week this whole week. take a listen to what he said from the white house. >> there'll always be changes
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and adjustments. and you know, you can't just i could have, for instance, told the american car companies, no, i'm not going to give you anything. and then you wouldn't have had to say, well, they're getting a little extra. it's just a little bit of a one month reprieve. they're very happy about what's happening. they won't have to go across borders. and you see the zig zag and you have a fender made in canada. you have something else made in mexico. we don't want that. we want it made here. but there will always be some modifications. >> so the president really defending his changing policies when it comes to tariffs and when it comes to this trade war that he has continued to pursue. very interesting, though, that the president has also warned americans that there could be pain associated with these tariffs. and that, of course, is a big deal, because he did run on the idea that he was going to lower the cost of living for americans around the country. but he's now in some ways signaling that the cost of living could go up, even if it's just for a few months. in his mind, it's going to be very
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interesting to see how all this plays out. of course, when it goes back to that government shutdown, it will be very interesting to see how democrats and republicans respond to the president saying he wants to see that bill on his desk, and he wants to sign it. alex. >> okay. yamiche, thank you so much. from west palm beach. so let's bring in shelby talcott, the white house correspondent for semafor. welcome, shelby. so with regard to this trade war, trump and canadian prime minister justin trudeau, they are at odds after what the wall street journal described as a 50 minute, profanity laced war of words about trump's 25% tariffs on canada. the trump administration called the conversation somewhat friendly. trudeau described it as colorful. what happened there? >> yeah, well, i think that this. >> was. >> certainly, as reported out, a tense conversation where the two sort of went back and forth on tariffs and on certain goods. and what's. interesting about this is, is canada is clearly taking a different approach to these tariffs than mexico. and you're seeing the result. mexico's president has taken a softer approach. and i think that's an aspect of this is the
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president is looking at how these countries are are reacting. and canada is pushing back a lot more aggressively than mexico is. and so the president is now pushing back as a result. and we've seen that over the past month with with foreign leader meetings as well. you see how these foreign leaders are trying to figure out almost how to deal with donald trump. and the best way to go about, you know, figuring these sorts of situations out. so it's been really interesting to watch. >> so trump initially said that he was enacting tariffs if canada didn't step up efforts to stop fentanyl from crossing into the u.s, canada responded saying it's complying to the best of its ability. but in 2024, customs and border patrol intercepted 43 pounds of fentanyl from canada and 11 pounds from the u.s. heading in the other direction there and for perspective, 21,000 pounds were seized in 2024 coming into the ■u.s. from mexico. why is trump moving forward with this? because some suggest he wants to
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weaken the canadian economy enough to advance his idea of making it the 51st state. of course, we've heard him refer to the prime minister as governor trudeau several times. >> yeah, i mean, certainly when i talk to trump officials, this idea that the president wants canada to become a state, it's real. that is not sort of something that, you know, we sometimes hear donald trump toss things out in passing. this is a very real idea. so it very well could be that this is an aspect of it. but again, i also think that it goes back to the fact that mexico's president has sort of taken a softer approach publicly against donald trump in recent weeks compared compared to the canadian prime minister. and that matters as well. and i think when you when you talk about it from canada's perspective during that phone call, one of the points of confusion was when they were talking about this, this fentanyl and the drug war. it wasn't clear exactly what canada has to do to avoid these tariffs.
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>> so the new york times is reporting that elon musk is at odds with secretary of state marco rubio and other members of trump's cabinet after a fiery meeting on thursday. let's take a listen to how the president responded when my colleague gabe gutierrez asked about the alleged dustup. >> no clash. i was there. you're just a troublemaker, and you're not supposed to be asking that question because we're talking about the world cup. elon gets along great with marco and they're both doing a fantastic job. there is no clash, >> okay there. the president is denying there is any tension between his allies. but is that what you're hearing? >> listen, i think that there has been tension between elon musk and a lot of donald trump's allies for a long time now, and there's been growing confusion. we've talked about it on this show before over what exactly elon musk's role is and what the agency's role in this. so i've heard over the past few weeks that agencies are taking the lead on this, but agencies don't
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seem clear that they're taking the lead on this. and this is sort of begun bubbling over into the public eye. and that's why donald trump held this meeting last week. and now he says that he's going to be holding this meeting every two weeks. so there's certainly some tensions between these cabinet officials and elon musk. and i think it's notable, you know, the two people that were pointed out in that article were, of course, marco rubio and sean duffy, and both of them in their individual agencies are dealing with a lot right now. marco rubio, for example, is dealing with the usaid drama. he has told democrats privately, we're told that, you know, he will sort of try to fix that. and so these are complications that they didn't see going into this job, that elon musk is also further complicating the situation. >> and look, it appears trump is somewhat reeling in doge and elon musk's aggressive approach to federal cuts because trump said on truth, social department secretaries will work with doge on cost cutting and staffing and
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be specific on firings using a scalpel instead of a hatchet. was trump forced to adjust after the widespread criticism that he and musk have faced over the indiscriminate firings? >> i think that's a question that remains to be seen. you know, is this actually reeling in elon musk? because while he says, yes, the agencies are in control of these firings and they're just working with doge and elon musk to sort of implement these changes, he's still giving elon musk a lot of leeway. and we saw elon musk traveling with him recently. and so it's still clear that he is sort of on elon musk's side. and i think it's going to be really interesting to see how this plays out. does this meeting that he had with cabinet heads sort of result in clarity? because i think that that's what's really causing a lot of this drama is there's just so much confusion because elon musk has taken not a scalpel, but a hatchet to government cuts. and so it's going to be interesting
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to see how that kind of plays out over the next few weeks, and whether these meetings provide the transparency and the clarification to these agency heads. >> okay. some might call it a chainsaw for good reason. anyway. shelby talcott, good to see you. thank you. and joining me now we have misha cross, democratic strategist and former adviser to the obama campaign, and brendan buck, msnbc political analyst and former press secretary to house speaker john boehner. one quick question to each of you on this. before we get a break and bring you back. you have escalating tensions in asia between elon musk and cabinet officials. trump then saying trump is going to be more strategic. rather, musk will be more strategic and lonely. advise. do you expect musk's power to actually be reined in, or did trump give him too much power that he can't take back now? >> i don't think that his power will be. >> reined in. i am a student of the bible. >> and it says. >> you can't serve two masters, and at. >> this point. both congress. >> the president. and the united
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states. >> voters are serving two is it. >> donald trump? is it. >> elon musk? elon musk is the richest man in the world, and. >> elon musk. holds the. >> power because not only is he challenging the conservatives in congress who could go up against him, but also because donald trump recognizes the power that is wielded there. will there be a break? who knows? but i definitely think that elon musk here is the person who is pulling the puppet strings, quite frankly, because he can, and because you don't have anyone who is standing strong, tall, and powerful to basically swat his hand. he has circumvented congress, and in many ways, he's also circumventing the presidency, where you see donald trump speaking out of both sides of his mouth. elon is slashing and dashing with doge in a way that should actually go through congress, in a way that should be led by if it was going to happen, the department heads themselves. what is the point of appointing those individuals if they are having their power taken from them every single day? because elon musk is the one who is pushing these cuts. he's the one who is reducing staff. he's the one who is making these cuts without even
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consulting them beforehand. >> brendan. predictions have been given since election day. so here's a question. do you think musk sticks around for the whole term, or do you think it's more likely a cabinet official leaves first? >> well. >> it kind of depends on what you mean by sticking around, because elon. musk sort. >> of pops. up here and there. and causes havoc. >> and then he doesn't actually. >> not accountable to anybody. >> i guess. >> other than donald trump, who says he's not actually in charge. i got to. >> imagine at some. >> point, either. >> elon musk or donald trump. >> tire of. >> this, or maybe. >> both of. >> them tire. >> of this. >> clearly. >> he's causing. >> musk is causing problems for trump. he's causing cabinet secretaries to call up and gripe about. what's going on. and ultimately. >> i think this is going. >> to. >> be driven. >> by politics. is this popular donald trump? if this ends up becoming something that works for him politically, i think we'll have a lot of tolerance. but i'm not really convinced that's where this is going to end up. this seems to be something that's a lot of pain,
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a lot of people getting fired for very little budget savings and a lot of upset cabinet secretaries. and so really, is the juice worth the squeeze here? trump may tire of him, and musk obviously has some other things that you would think he would already be tending to, but somehow he keeps staying focused on this. >> he's got a few big companies to run, that's for sure. all right, brendan, you guys stay with me because we're going to talk a bit later about the censure of congressman al green. so we'll see you then. but first, president trump's new moves on iran, russia and hamas. moves on iran, russia and hamas. we're back in 90s. still searching for the one? olay super cream with spf. the power of five in one super cream... to hydrate, smooth, brighten, firm and protect. skin just drinks it in... to boost cells for more resilient skin. it's super cream. only olay. >> emus can't help people customize. >> and save. >> hundreds on car insurance.
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>> people who know know bdo. >> new today, president trump issuing a stark warning to russia agree to a peace deal or face more large scale tariffs and sanctions. this, as reports indicate trump sent a letter to iran's supreme leader this week looking to restart talks over a nuclear deal. and in an unprecedented move, the trump administration confirms it has started direct negotiations with hamas. the president demanding an immediate return of all hostages. or there will be, quote, hell to pay. hamas representatives are in cairo today for negotiations on a cease fire extension. and joining us now is former fbi special agent and msnbc national security analyst clint watts. good to see you, clint. so axios reports that israel objected to the trump administration's direct talks with hamas, noting israel found out about it through other channels, not from u.s. officials. the u.s.
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designates hamas as a terrorist organization and historically does not negotiate with them or other terrorist organizations. so what does the administration think it could gain from breaking that position? >> yeah. >> it was a wild turn for me, looking back over 25 years post nine over 11, hamas being a terrorist group. and the u.s. doesn't negotiate with terrorist groups. but i would say just if we. >> zoom. >> out a little bit, looking at both the scenarios with russia threatening sanctions, also with hamas trying to negotiate independently, what you're seeing is the trump administration trying an alternative approach, whether you like the positions or not, they've come in with a totally different prescription for how they want to negotiate with everyone going bilateral and multilateral with a lot of different entities and trying to push and pull on both sides. interesting approach. the challenge of the trump administration to the biden administration was the biden administration stuck with the stuck with the national security establishment that was very traditional over many, many
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decades. they're trying a new approach now, whether that will make any meaningful gains or not, i think, is to be to be seen. but i think it's a different approach that we're not used to. if i've been on air with you, whether it was bush, obama, you know, 20 years ago, we wouldn't see an approach like this. it would be quite consistent, actually, with most of these countries. >> so the administration paused sending military supplies and sharing intelligence with ukraine this week. how specifically does this hurt ukraine's war efforts? let's focus more on the intelligence. i mean, obviously, if they're not getting the military supplies they need, we can figure out how that affects it. but intelligence wise, what happens without the us help? >> yeah, i think ukraine becomes very limited to whatever is mostly what we would call tactical or operational intelligence on the battlefield, things that they know may be a little bit of regional intelligence, but on a grand scale, not really understanding what russia is doing or vis a vis the allies and partners. a lot of the intelligence that was coming to ukraine likely comes from a mix of nato, the eu and
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the us. us being the dominant player in all that much more, you know, capable, much more types of intelligence that would go to ukraine. so it would limit things like broad based targeting, understanding situations on the battlefield puts them in a much more defensive posture and really relying only on the sensors that they have. just looking forward, that would really handicap their ability to really take on any sort of more aggressive action like we've seen over the last six months vis a vis russia. all of this seems to be a play to try and get ukraine to the negotiation table, have the tariffs sort of claims by president trump on the russians. same thing on the russian side trying to really force a peace agreement in a very rapid period of time. >> yeah. let's face it, russia could become more aggressive as the winter weather wanes. i mean, that would allow them to step things up. let me get to what nbc news and some others report, and that is that defense secretary pete hegseth halted offensive cyber operations against russia. how critical are
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these operations to our.s. national security? clinton. if reports are true, could it be leveraged to get russia to the negotiating table somehow? >> it seems that is the strategy, alex, is to remove some of the pressure against russia in hopes that it would bring russia to the negotiation table. this is a quest and a campaign promise of president trump to first 100 days in the war, russia, ukraine. now, just knowing russia, having worked on it for a very long time, that is not likely how russia will interpret it. instead, they would see that as a concession and a concession in the lead up to peace negotiations. two parts of the battlefield in ukraine, one is on the ground, the physical kinetic war that we see every day. second part is in the air and online, which is a mix of missile attacks, air attacks and cyber attacks. and if this is the signal to russia, their standard strategy for any negotiation is called maximum pressure. if the west or the eu, the united states, gives any
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ground, russia's automatic response is to double down and try and gain more ground, such that when they come to the negotiation table, they are operating at more strength instead of more weakness. so what you'll see is more cyber attacks, more offensive operations. these are the missile attacks you've seen even on zelenskyy's hometown in recent days. they're going to double down and try and gain as much ground as they can. so when they come to the negotiation table, if they give up something, they're actually moving up to what was maybe now a week or two ago versus what their present situation is, which they've made more gains. >> okay, clint watts, always appreciate your sage insights on these things. see you again soon. thank you. what is it about canada that bothers the about canada that bothers the president so much? (♪♪) (phone dings) for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura in adults, nurtec odt can provide relief in 2 hours which can last up to 2 days. (♪♪) don't take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur even days after use, like trouble breathing and rash.
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lumber. this, as a western government official told nbc news. a tense call between trump and trudeau on wednesday night was, quote, extremely abusive. on trump's part. amicia cross and brendan buck are back with me. so guys, amicia you first. what to what extent are trump's policies, acts of retribution? because he doesn't seem to particularly like trudeau or zelenskyy for that matter. could his actions be seen in that tenor, even if it's detrimental to the country? >> absolutely. donald trump is a petty prince, and he's using his his tariff policy as a means to get back at people who he felt made fun of him during his last administration. people who did not necessarily extend a welcoming hand in certain conversations about him. and this is his way of taking america down the path of insanity. just because he wants to get back at those who he views as views as adversaries. but i'd also call attention to what trump has now called his golden age. that's the tip of the hat to the gilded age. and for those whose books have been
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banned from anti crt and who don't recognize why this administration is pulling so swift to get rid of the department of ed, it's because he doesn't want you to know history. during the gilded age, the late 1800s in american history, tariffs were done willy nilly all across, all across the globe. and america benefited largely because the working class off the backs of the working class, who had some of the hardest and harshest conditions that america has ever seen in terms of working in. they had wealth inequality nearly tripled. the working class was digging themselves into the ground, trying to make ends meet. meanwhile, the richest of the rich ran away with money left, right and sideways. industry boomed. however, workers never saw a single cent of that. that's what donald trump wants to take america back to. that tariff policy is ripped straight out of the page of the gilded age, and it is a play on his golden era. today, it means the rich get wealthier while the working class ends up grinding day in and day out and can barely make ends meet. this is not an economic gain or a win for
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working class america. this is one that will eradicate their survival. >> wow, your take on all this, brendan. and what is it about canada that provokes donald trump so much? >> yeah, i don't know. obviously, donald trump can be pretty petty if he doesn't like somebody. and i honestly don't know what's what's motivating him. i think what's interesting is we're seeing two very different approaches. canada really standing up to donald trump in a somewhat surprising way to me, both trudeau and the premier of ontario threatening a lot of tariffs and basically saying, you know, you're not going to push us around even if you even if you back down, we're not going to back down. it's very interesting. you know, trump theoretically likes strength. and it'll be interesting to see how he how he responds to that. whereas mexico seems to be taking a different approach, a little more conciliatory, trying to show what they're doing to achieve this. look, end of the day, nobody wins from tariffs whether or not, you know, it's designed to help or hurt anybody. i think
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donald trump actually believes tariffs are a useful tool, but you can't find an economist on the right or the left who doesn't tell you that these are ultimately, in the long run, going to really hurt america. he just doesn't seem to understand that. and in his last administration, he had enough people to rein him in. this time around, there just aren't those kind of people who are going to convince him otherwise. >> brendan, how much does this have to do with one of these leaders being an outgoing leader? and then, of course, the president of mexico, a newly elected president who's got to stick around for a while? >> yeah, i don't know, i would it's hard to like, find any real like, organizing principle behind donald, how donald trump operates. i mean, one day, you know, he'll think something. another day, something else. one thing that's going to clearly weigh on his on his mind, though, is how the markets react. and it would be hard to look at what happened here and see his somewhat folded recently, not being in the reaction to a multi-day sell off that basically lost all of the market gains since he took
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office. look, i think donald trump doesn't care a whole lot about policy. he's not a policy person. i think he wants to have a successful presidency, though. i think he wants to be popular. and he views a lot of that through. how much money is the economy pulling in? last time he used to talk a lot about how much capital had come into the market during his presidency, and if that goes away, he's losing a key talking point. >> yeah. amisha. representative al green was censured after standing and heckling at trump's address to congress. ten democrats voted with republicans supporting that censure. and there is new axios reporting that house democratic leadership is privately confronting members who disrupted the speech. unhappy they went beyond so-called traditional protest tactics. can democrats effectively fight trump's maga efforts if they're fighting among themselves? >> the simple answer to that question is no. the politics of respectability have got to be thrown out here. and i say that because what we are seeing is an american public that is steadily
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getting frustrated with how things are run in dc. the inaction, but moreover, the job slashing that is happening, veterans being not able to get the appointments they need, the services they need when it comes to their health care, medicaid being up for grabs, the possibility of social security going away completely. something needs to be done. and democrats can't count on old mechanisms of getting people advocated and involved to work when they're seeing time and time again that it is not. so but. >> wait. >> let me ask you that. i'm sorry to interrupt, but but did ten democrats who voted to censure al green? what was that about? >> it was about them being in purple districts. they're here to save their own necks. but i would argue that the thing that's going to matter within the midterms is not al green's censure. it's going to be the people in those districts who may not have a job. it's going to be the people in those districts who saw their cost of living go up 3 to 4 times what it was even this year. so i would argue that they're going to be on the wrong side of history. and democrats should have aligned around protecting al green rather than throwing
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him under the bus. >> so, brandon, by the way, this goes beyond democrats in congress because the new york times reports that trump critics are muzzling themselves in fear of retribution. and this includes federal workers or ceos, university presidents, republican lawmakers. is the resistance more hesitant than we saw in trump's first term? and if so, why? >> gosh, i sure hope that they shouldn't worry about that. i mean, that's that's politics. and of course, this administration plays very differently than a normal one. and look, they're going after certain law firms, you know, people who worked with jack smith, you know, people who had nothing to do with it, but they're targeting anybody by association. >> so and. it's different than even the first term. right. they're going about it more harshly than they did the first time around. >> oh, absolutely. again, there's nobody there to sort of restrain donald trump and talk and talk him into norms and, you know, ethics and things like that. i mean, that's that's all all out the window. look, for democrats, i get that they really want to figure out what
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their message is. but my honest advice is be patient. this is going to you're going to find sort of your market of where people agree with you. and this is going to be a lot more about donald trump than it is about you. they should not fool themselves into thinking that they need the perfect slogan, or they need the perfect video that's going to capture everybody. a midterm election is always a referendum on the president. and ultimately, i think donald trump's going to give them lots of ammo to work with over the next two years. >> okay. alicia cross and brendan buck, good to see you guys, as always. thank you. two breaking stories about the country's health care and its country's health care and its workers. okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. yay - woo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. (♪♪)
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they you know, they say that these scientists should be focused on things actually happening right now, like this major measles epidemic in gaines county, texas, and around west texas where i'm at right now. they this is, you know, an area with very large numbers of vaccine exemptions. >> let's get to that. there are now 200 plus cases in texas and new mexico. two deaths confirmed. there was one in texas, now, one in new mexico. both people were unvaccinated. rfk jr, the secretary of health and human services, spoke this week about using vitamin a and vitamin d to treat measles. what's the word and interpretation of this? >> the interpretation from conventional doctors is that there is absolutely no evidence that you can either prevent or treat measles with any vitamin, including vitamin a, vitamin d, the public health officials here in lubbock say that they're really concerned that, you know,
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>> these talks that are. >> set to be. >> next week are. >> really seen as taking a. >> step forward. >> by. >> both sides as a reset. >> so to speak. >> of course. >> important to note that. >> it's not zelensky. >> and trump meeting. >> it's senior officials. >> but again, as you mentioned, they're expecting. >> next week to lay the framework, the foundation. >> setting them up for the next meeting. and again. >> this is largely. >> seen as. >> a step forward in the right direction. >> alex. >> so let's talk about the latest attack in ukraine that killed at least 11 people. that was in the donetsk region of eastern ukraine. what are you hearing about that? >> right. >> yeah, alex, i mean, ukraine has just been bombarded and pounded over the last several days. >> with russian attacks. >> just today, 11 people killed. as russia attacked a series of apartment buildings, some eight apartment blocks. >> have been attacked. >> 11 people dead, dozens of people. >> wounded. >> crews rushing right now. digging through the rubble, trying to find any survivors or recovering those who didn't survive. this is something.
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>> that we've. >> been seeing for days now. we know just a couple of days. >> ago. >> russia attacked the energy. >> facility. >> shutting down power and heat lights. >> to millions of people in the country. >> all of this, as russia says, that they've retaken on land three, three villages in the region, which is also in the eastern part of ukraine. now, of course, the backdrop to all of this, as you mentioned eight days ago, we saw the diplomatic meltdown in the oval. >> office. >> followed by president trump halting military aid to ukraine, halting intelligence being shared with the ukrainians. and then, of course, yesterday he was asked in the oval office if he thought that putin was was capitalizing on the fact that the united states paused aid and intelligence, and he said that putin is doing what. anybody would. so again, we are all looking forward to next week possible signs of hope that a peace deal negotiations will be moving in the right direction. alex. >> yeah. >> those meetings cannot come
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explains. >> every day. >> customers stroll. >> in and out of this orange building. >> good morning. >> picking up coffee. >> often unaware. >> of what the building once was. do you. >> know what that used to be? >> no. >> i'm not familiar with that. this is actually the. window from which blacks had to be served. when this restaurant was a segregated diner. >> this is the. >> coffee shop. >> in downtown selma. but decades ago, it was the. >> thirsty boy. diner where. >> a hamburger and drink would cost you $0.24. and black. >> people were. >> served out back. >> what do you remember of the thirsty boy? >> as a. >> child. >> we would come by for the infamous ham sandwich. and i can remember we didn't come in the front door. we walked to this window. >> the segregated. >> diner was the site of sit ins and focus of freedom songs, and just steps from the edmund pettus bridge, where on that fateful sunday 60 years. >> ago. >> unarmed demonstrators
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marching for voting rights were attacked by police armed with batons, dogs and tear gas. but the arc of the moral universe bent toward justice. with the voting rights act signed into. law later that year, in august of 1965, and here in selma, jackie now. runs her coffee shop out. >> of. >> that. >> once segregated. >> diner. with that divisive window now filled with accolades from around the world. >> there's community, there's unity, there's love, there's light, and there's a successful black woman that's operating in a space that 60 years ago did not stand for those same things. >> and now. >> this is a place. for everybody. this is a place for everybody. >> priscilla thompson, nbc news, selma, alabama. >> that is a great story about jackie. and tomorrow we're going to have more coverage as selma marks 60 years since that day, politics nation will be live from selma. tha
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