>> welcome back to the weekend, everybody. so speaker mike johnson just unveiled his plan

to avert a government shutdown. and it's a short term solution to a long term problem just keeping the government running through the end of september. now, johnson says he expects a vote on the continuing resolution on tuesday before a potential shutdown on friday. house democratic leadership says they will vote no due to the bills cut in domestic funding. and congresswoman rosa delauro, the ranking member on the appropriations committee, says the continuing resolution is just a power grab from trump and elon musk. and congresswoman rosa delauro of connecticut joins us now. >> congresswoman, thank you for being with us today in the break. i said, i'm so glad we have, congresswoman, because she's just going to give it to us straight. i was looking on social media and you there there was all this talk from your republican colleagues that this is a quote unquote, clean cr. i.e, it's just funding the government at the same level. they didn't strip anything out. but if you take a closer look at the bill like you did, you noted

that republicans are zeroing out the toxic exposures fund, which is the fund to care for veterans exposed to burn pits, agent orange and other toxic substances. they do a $6 billion increase in defense, $13 billion in cuts in domestic spending. the burn pits are part of that. it forgoes $890 million in grants for health care facilities and equipment, for it doesn't renew $40 million in funding for programs that help children and families. this does not feel like a clean cr to me, ma'am. >> well, indeed. and first. >> of all, good morning to all of you. it's wonderful. wonderful to be with you. and i'm. >> so pleased to be to be in. >> this conversation. essentially what. >> has been done here. >> it's a. >> blank check. >> it's a. >> blank check. >> to elon musk and to. >> president trump. and it just it allows. >> them to what i call. this this stealing. >> this is stealing taxpayers dollars that were intended to go to american families and to businesses. just 2 or 3 more examples. when you're talking about this social. security and

i just saw. earlier on on your program, they're talking about 7000 people. you know, cut they're going to fire thousands of employees. >> these are. >> the folks that answer the phones. so you're going to see that people don't, that there will be longer wait times. social security offices will be closed. and that means there's a backlog and you can't access your benefits. >> that's what will happen. >> disaster relief, for god's sakes. that funding will run out. in late spring. so what happens to hurricanes? tornadoes? whatever it is, there's no money to go to people. >> people who may. >> have lost their home. a small business that may have been put out of business. so it is it is the human consequences of what they're doing that really the public has got to understand. and quite frankly, they don't care about what those human consequences are right now. veterans. you mentioned veterans. these are we have committed to veterans that if

you were if you were a subject to agent orange, toxic chemicals, burn pits, that we are going to take care of your health care. so what we do, we fund that so that it is not susceptible to the year to year appropriations bill. we give it an advance appropriation. that's what they have cut out. that's $22 billion that they have cut out of this. so it is a blank check. we should say no without, you know, just out of hand. it's a no. >> and that echoes what we've heard from leader jeffries, congresswoman, that the caucus should be a no on this. let's say republicans get their votes together. they kick this over to the senate. the question then becomes whether or not your colleagues in the senate, whether they can find about seven democratic votes for this. what is your message to senate democrats here? >> well, senate democrats have got to vote no as well. and i've been talking to my colleague who's a counterpart in the senate to patty murray, and you've probably seen her

comments. she is straightforward. she says no on this long term your cr and going forward. and that's what she's talking to. you know her senate colleagues about in the same way i'm talking to my house colleagues. >> congresswoman. in addition to the cuts that we have seen, laid out, hidden, if you will, as simone noted, zeroed out. right. oh, you know, no, we didn't cut anything. we just didn't fund it, you know, you also you also have and took note of your guest that you had at the at the capitol, julia miller. and, and the impact in the other parts of this storyline on the department of education. let's, let's have a listen to what julia had to say. >> yeah. >> in new haven. >> where i. >> teach, 22 out of our. >> 44 schools. >> are title one. >> that's just. >> one school district. >> if the department of education. >> is dismantled.

>> 26 million. >> vulnerable students would. >> lose access to needed services. this isn't cutting bloat or excess. this would be taking away resources from. >> children in. >> already underfunded districts. >> like my own. >> across the country. to me, i think. >> we are teaching history. >> we are teaching. >> reading. we are teaching important. >> skills that young people will use for the rest of their lives. that's not controversial to me. >> it should be noted that miss miller was the is the 2025 connected teacher of the year. >> talk. >> talk about the impact on our classrooms, because i don't think people fully appreciate the role the federal government. look. >> i, you. >> know, as a as a conservative over the years made the case about, you know, federal dollars being spent to support in this in the education space, to support what the states are doing, because we fund education. >> at. >> the state and local level. i don't think people fully

appreciate what that federal dollar does. to miss miller's point that if it suddenly is no longer there, there are kids who won't eat there, kids who won't learn there, kids who won't be able to access the ladder of opportunity to live out their american dream. if you could speak to that. >> well, listen, i think you have just focused in on something that's so critically important. that's why i wanted julia miller with me. this was a she's so. she's so eloquent. and she teaches civics by the way of how to engage in, in public discourse. so this is one of the worst effects of what they're trying to do. the and this comes out of project 2025 eliminate the department of education. but as you pointed out, michael, what the american dream i believe that every one of us who are on this show here this morning, there are folks said to

them, get an education so that you can realize your dreams and aspirations. it certainly what my family taught me. my mom worked in the old sweatshops in the city of new haven. she had to go there every day. and she said, you don't have to do this. get yourself an education. and they sacrificed so i could. and that's what parents do today. and what they want to do is to really dismantle public education in this country. what do we lose? you make a very good point. and people don't understand this, that it is the states that mainly fund education. the federal government deals with title one that goes to low income a students so that they can have an opportunity. education is opportunity and this is a providing opportunity for kids to succeed. kids who have who are developmentally challenged in terms of special education that we fund, that in the ida,

ida program, the teachers, when you cut funding for title one, nobody knows what title one, but that's your child's classroom teacher. when you're dealing with pell grants that allow kids to be able to go to college, not every family can afford to send their kids to 80 or $90,000 a year for education. today, you know, now they want to move to private education. but what? 90% of our children are in public education today, and what they want to do is to pull the rug out from under them and say, we don't care about your dreams and your aspirations. we are going to change this system so that we are not going to provide opportunity for you to be successful. i find this to be the, the most tragic consequence of what they're doing without an educated citizenry allowing kids to reach their full potential.

that's what education is about. it's about that american dream. and horace mann said, education is the great equalizer. it's about your god given talent. it's the great equalizer. >> one could argue that's why they are looking to attack education, because it is the great equalizer. and the more people know, the less frankly, i think that they are willing to put up with. let's let's fast forward to tuesday. let's just say, magically, all the republicans in the house get together and they support the johnson's bill. and then when it does go to the senate, that all the democrats stick together in the senate and they don't support this bill, that means that it fails. what then happens? because yesterday we spoke with congressman brendan boyle, who's the ranking member, as you know, on the budget committee, and he said that democrats should actually be negotiating with donald trump. we want to play that for you right now. >> sure. >> any sort of agreement on any piece of legislation, i think needs to be made with donald trump, because we do know that

speaker johnson has no ability whatsoever to enforce any sort of agreement. we saw that last december, because the reality is. >> we are raising our cups to you, congressman, we're raising our cups. you're the first member of congress. i have heard say that. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah. >> there's no question. mike johnson speakership is one tweet from donald trump away from ending. that's the sad reality. >> so that's the reality congresswoman. so how long. because if this does fail on tuesday or and they try to bring it back on wednesday maybe get on thursday and then friday again, that means the government will shut down because they have failed to do their due diligence. it will be on republicans, in my opinion. what would get democrats to come back to the table? is it, in fact, negotiating with donald trump directly? >> well, you know, i think that brendan is, as my colleague is right in that regard. you know, usually they talk about four corners, house, senate,

democrats and republicans negotiating. but but donald trump, elon musk is their go back to last december. my friends we had agreed house senate white house speaker on moving forward. elon musk parachutes in and says to republicans, don't vote for the bill. so we were in turmoil in terms of ultimately getting a continuing resolution passed. and i would just tell you, he did that because it was a measure in there, quite frankly, that i authored that would have put his issues in china, his conflicts of issue in china, and his investments there at risk. but we the answer to this is i, i don't know if they have the votes. i really don't, you know, but i know that we need to vote against it. the democrats in the senate need to vote against it. what we need to do is to get back to what we were doing, and we were close to a resolution of this effort, getting the top line on defense, is the one year

bills that we do that puts the constraints on donaldmp to be unfettered in what he wants to cut and what he wants to do. that's what we have to do. but in fact, yes, we if we can, i believe he wants this one year continuing resolution so that he can do whatever he wants. we have to try to preclude that in any way we can do. i believe there are some of my republican colleagues that feel the same way. yes, but they're scared. they're scared to death to stand up. and if we want to hold on to what is in the congress, the power of the purse, it resides there constitutionally. if we want to hold on to that, then we need to thwart him in moving forward on this and not allow him to take over the power of the purse and direct spending.

that is what our job is. i don't want to give up that authority. i don't want to give it up, and i'm going to fight like hell not to give it up to donald trump and elon musk. but we do have to confront him on that issue. but we got we have to sit down. we were close. i'm telling you, that close to having a an alternative. and then you could do a short term continuing resolution to wrap it up and to get things passed and to keep elon musk, russ vogt at the office of management and budget and donald trump out of the business of appropriating dollars or stealing those dollars, that is not their jurisdiction, and it is by law. this is against the law. all we're asking republicans to do is follow the law. that is what the message is. >> congresswoman rosa delauro of connecticut, setting the stakes for the funding fight we're going to watch this week. thank

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>> so they're going to they're looking to fire everybody who works at the department of health. is that is that is that the plan? they're going to get everybody. >> giving them an offer. >> they want $1,000. >> to go by. >> and so let's. >> say on friday, everybody takes that, offers that offer on monday. what happens? >> well, let me answer that question by looking at because. >> i. >> think we throw around these acronyms. right. and unless you've interfaced with hhs, you might not understand what it is that they do. so let's let's pull up the list on what it is they do. they manage programs like hipaa, health insurance, social services for children and families, health care provider database, emergency preparedness, response for disaster and public health emergencies, training, education for health professionals, health care complaints, appeals. i mean, this is a. huge portfolio. michael and i, i get it. >> i get. >> that what they are trying to say is big pharma has too much influence. >> and okay, go in.

>> and root that out. >> have a. >> plan for actually getting. >> to that. >> core concern. going after all, 80,000 employees is not a scalpel approach. >> it's not a scalpel approach. but look, you know, if you don't want big pharma and the department of health, then why did congress put them there in the first place? congress allowed them in. they just didn't show up. so like you said, go to go deal with that. but you don't need to, you know, gut child health care services that have nothing to do with, you know, big pharma, you know, because that they're doing a specific work that deals with the health of children. and again, it's just. >> it's. >> just the idiocracy trying to control the game here in a way that hurts people. 80,000 folks. >> you know. >> we want to get into the legality of this. that's not because it's i don't even think it's legal to do what they're

doing. but here we are, folks. they want to gut the health department. so what do you think happens when all those programs that you're tied to, there's no one there to answer your question or to provide your services, because rfk jr and elon musk don't think you're worth providing health care for. >> i would also i. would also just quickly sneak in that. while you talked about the idiocracy, there's also the hypocrisy of the fact that when during trump 1.0, a lot of his political appointees at hhs had been lobbyists and a lot of them had lobbied for dun dun dun, big pharma. >> oh, dare say that. oh, how did that happen? oh my god, no, they did not. >> next. >> canada's finance minister dominic leblanc joins us to discuss trump's tariffs. this is discuss trump's tariffs. this is the weekend on msnbc. (man) got one more antoine. (vo) with usps ground advantage, it's like you're with us every step of the way. ♪

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tariffs, the ones you know he's enacted and the ones he's threatening to enact. nbc news reports canadians are removing american liquor and california wines from their store shelves. they're pulling back on future visits to the u.s. they're pushing buy canadian to counter higher costs and spite trump. and they are uncharacteristically brandishing unvarnished anger over what they see as a betrayal by a longtime friend, british columbia's premier told nbc news, quote, we're going to ensure that the americans know understand how off we are, how unified we are, how committed we are to working as a country to stand up for each other. joining us now is canada's minister of finance and intergovernmental affairs, the honorable dominic leblanc. welcome, sir. >> good morning. >> good morning, mr. leblanc. it is good to see you. do you see a path for restabilizing relations between the two countries?

>> i hope so. >> i hope so. >> as your introduction said, canadians are showing. perhaps an uncharacteristic. level of emotion or frustration. >> or. >> anger at what's. >> happening to our economy. >> we think it's unjustified. >> if you. >> look at how. >> the two countries. going back to ronald. >> reagan have. operated in a. >> free trade context. >> and built an. >> economic and security partnership. >> that we think should be the envy of the. >> world at. >> a time when the world is getting more. >> complicated, when china. >> represents a significant threat to our economy and our security. >> more than anything. >> we. >> want to. >> work together. >> in. >> partnership with the americans. >> like we have for decades. >> so canadians. >> are frustrated that these tariffs. >> are being imposed. >> on us. >> the government. of canada. obviously responded. retaliated as we. said we would, and. >> imposed our own. retaliatory tariffs. >> but we very. >> much want to get to a. >> position as quickly as possible where. >> all or.

>> all of. >> these. >> tariffs are lifted. >> and we can get back to. >> working on. building a secure. >> and. >> prosperous economy in north america. >> i'm encouraged. >> by my conversations. with secretary howard lutnick. he and i. >> have gone. >> back and. >> forth a lot over the last number of weeks, and speak quite regularly. i'm hoping we can find our way forward to get back. >> to a. >> position where we're working together on other threats, and not simply attacking one another's economy, which isn't in the interests. of certainly of. >> the canadian economy. >> and, i would argue, american consumers as well. >> minister. >> the problem, though, the challenge that we have in this relationship right now is not, you know, born out of something that canada and the united states have been fighting over for a long, long time. it is born out of the peak of one man who, for whatever reason, has it out for canada. you know, i want to play for you donald trump. and what. >> he had to.

>> say about reciprocal tariffs on friday. they're really kind of goes to alicia's question about where is there room to work things out. let's let's listen. >> canada has been ripping us off for years on tariffs, for lumber and for dairy products. 250%. nobody ever talks about that 250% tariff, which is taking advantage of our farmers. so that's not going to happen anymore. we're going to be they'll be met with the exact same tariff unless they drop it. and that's what reciprocal means. and we may do it as early as today, or we'll wait till monday or tuesday. but that's what we're going to do. >> so where do you work with that guy? >> well. >> it starts by. >> respecting the government. >> the americans elected president trump. >> won the. election in november. he chose his cabinet

secretaries. our obligation as a partner government, as a g7 partner, as. a nato partner, as a. norad partner, as. >> a. >> free trade partner should be to work with the government the americans have elected. our job is to defend and build the canadian economy. we think. >> that there's. >> ample room where those two lines intersect. president trump's comments about dairy, for example, go back to the us-mexico-canada free trade agreement kusma, which he negotiated in his first term and signed and said was a fantastic agreement. all of the measures that he's now saying are unfair were measures that he agreed to in a. >> free. >> trade agreement that he renegotiated with canada and mexico less than ten years ago. so my conversations with. secretary lutnick make me think that if we. >> work together, we. >> can find a way to get. canada and mexico. i think may be of

the same mind in a position where. >> the global. >> tariff, reciprocal tariff decisions that mr. lutnick and the president will make in early april, we hope, can accept that because of the kuzma agreement. happy to discuss improving it. happy to discuss reviewing it with the americans. we've said that if they if they want to review the kuzma agreement or or discuss things that they don't think are working for the american economy, we too have a list of things that we'd be happy to discuss, but let's do that in a coherent partnership context where we're not applying tariffs to change week over week to one another. that doesn't seem the best way to improve an agreement that we're happy to discuss. because we think it should be the basis of prosperity for both countries. >> well, and especially because the prosperity. >> for. >> your country is tied not just to your fellow countries in north america, but also to the global tariffs that this administration is proposing. china has hit canada with

tariffs in indirect riposte to trump, quote, china announced tariffs of up to 100% on canola, pork and other foods from canada on saturday. the chinese tariffs, which take effect on march 20th, were also a clear warning to canada and indirectly, mexico, not to cooperate with the united states on trade. the trump administration, like the biden administration before it, has been demanding that canada and mexico not serve as back doors for low cost chinese goods to enter the u.s. market. under north american free trade agreements. your response, minister? >> so we agree there's an area where we entirely agree with the american administration, with president trump, with his predecessor, president biden, and his administration. china cannot use mexico. or our concern, obviously, is canada as a way to dump from their non-market economy goods into north america in a way that violates the spirit and the letter of the free trade

agreement. so we in the biden administration last fall matched 100% tariffs on chinese electric vehicles. we matched steel and aluminum tariffs that the united states brought in against china. what you saw there was the chinese response. they're going to retaliate against canada. that's fine. we'll support those industries and do what's necessary to ensure i represent the east coast of canada, my district. they'll be fishing lobster and snow crab in the gulf of saint lawrence soon and selling it to boston. this is the kind of trading relationship that's important. some of that seafood goes to goes to china. so these are challenges for us. >> i said to. >> secretary bessant earlier last week that if he wanted to have a conversation about how canada, mexico and the u.s. could work together and put the appropriate tariff measures against china. to deal with their dumping into the north american economy, we would be all in and having those conversations and as much as possible doing it, the three of

us together, that's the way we can build a strong north american economy. but you're right, the chinese will retaliate. but we think it's more important to be a reliable partner for the united states and mexico. and we'll deal with the chinese as best as we can. but we're a lot stronger dealing with the chinese. if it's canada, mexico and the united states, than sort of having them play one of us against the other two. that would not be a good scene either. >> minister. that point is a is an excellent one. the idea that you have china, you know, coming up against the unified efforts of canada, the united states and mexico. and at the core of all of that, though, and specifically, one last point to you is the relationship government to government, for sure, because that's what's driving a lot of the conversation. but prime minister trudeau, i think, really kind of framed this a little bit

different. if you could just listen real quick to what he had. to say to americans about all of this. >> we don't. want this. >> we want to. >> work with. you as a. friend and. >> ally. >> and we don't want to. >> see. >> you hurt either. >> but your. >> government has chosen. >> to do. >> this to you. >> and, minister, that's the point. this is not a decision that the canadians want government to government, because they know the impact on people. >> and you're. >> right. >> we obviously worry about canadian exporters, canadian jobs, the cost of living in canada. but because we have to as a sovereign, proud, independent country, would retaliate or respond to this with our own tariffs, you can see how it becomes quickly a race to the basement. and the people who will pay the price. are consumers in in your great country and consumers in canada? the prime minister, i think, reflected, i was thinking about

this coming down to the studio in ottawa this morning. i don't think there's one canadian that doesn't have a personal connection to the united states i studied there. i have cousins that live there. i visit the united states all the time. i live in a border province, but the relationships in my province on the east coast of canada, new brunswick, on the new brunswick maine border, literally, they have volunteer fire departments that work together and come across the border. if there's a fire. the relationship is economic, it's personal, it's familial, it's ideological. these are so many of the same values have bound our country together. and all the biggest conflicts in the world. we've stood together. and that's why. >> this. >> is so difficult for canadians to understand. in your introduction, you talked about premiers, our equivalent of governors using the provincial liquor stores to take american wine and booze off the shelves. it's a symbolic thing that sort of expresses the frustration, but you can see why this is

difficult. it's difficult for canadians, it's difficult for our economy. and i hope our american friends realize that. as the prime minister said, we want this to be over as quickly as possible so we can work together on security issues, environmental issues, challenges like china. this is much more constructive than figuring out a way to try and vandalize some sector of the economy in north america. >> all right. we really appreciate it. finance minister honorable dominic leblanc, thank you so much. for the second time in two years. >> thanks for inviting me on the program. >> you got it, my friend. for the first time in two years, a lot of eyes and dollars are on a high stakes race for the seat in wisconsin. on wisconsin supreme court, a candidate for that seat. judge susan crawford joins seat. judge susan crawford joins us next. this is the weekend. experience advanced technology in the buick envision. ♪♪ equipped with the largest-in-class ultrawide 30-inch diagonal display

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>> on april 1st, wisconsin will elect a new state supreme court justice. the liberal candidate is circuit court judge susan crawford. her conservative opponent is the state's former attorney general, judge brad schimel. the two were vying for a seat that will determine the court's majority. and because of that, this race has national implications, especially with cases on abortion rights, congressional redistricting and election laws at stake. billionaires, they are pouring millions into this race, which is on track to be the most expensive state supreme court race in american history. and judge susan crawford joins us now. >> good morning, judge crawford. so give us a sense of the stakes here in this race. you know the difference, if you will, if you win versus if mr. schimel wins. >> yeah. thank you michael. you know, it's a really sharp contrast, i think, between the two of us. i'm running to. >> be a fair. >> impartial justice. >> on. >> the supreme court.

>> that is. >> what wisconsinites expect and. deserve from. >> their judges. i bring. >> experience as a prosecutor, as a longtime circuit. >> court. >> judge. >> and as somebody who stood up for wisconsinites. >> in our courtrooms protecting. >> their rights. my opponent, brad schimel, is somebody with a history as an extreme partizan politician. >> he is now. >> being supported by. >> many millions. >> of dollars. >> of spending. >> by elon musk. and schimel is saying that he wants. >> to. >> be on the supreme court to. >> protect the. >> trump agenda, to. >> make. you know, he. >> said that the 2020. >> decision by the wisconsin supreme court that rejected donald trump's. effort to overturn the. >> election in wisconsin screwed over. >> donald trump. that the. >> court screwed. >> over. >> donald trump. so i think democracy. >> is at. >> stake in this election. women's reproductive. health care rights. >> and health. >> care rights in general.

>> are at risk. >> and wisconsinites. >> i hope, will. >> understand what that choice is. >> the election's in just. >> over three weeks. >> judge crawford, i just have to say, because i can hear like the chainsaw happening in the background, it is bringing back reminders of when i was broadcasting from my garage, and there was always a leaf blower at the exact wrong moment. so thank you for bearing with us. it also feels a little bit like elon musk wants us to talk about us, so let's do that. you referenced this, but a group that's funded by musk is running ads in your race. this from the ap. the ads are labeled as coming from a group called progress 2028, and are made to look like authentic messages of support for dane county circuit judge susan crawford, who was backed by democrats. they describe her as a progressive champion who will stand up for immigrants, defend planned parenthood and promote a justice system that gives criminals, quote, second chances. they call for crawford to boldly proclaim her progressive values, language that potentially diminishes her standing with moderate or conservative voters in a race that is at least officially nonpartisan. talk to me about

the musk of this all and that method. well, it's a lot of dark money and dirty tricks being poured into this race. the first ad that. the musk group placed against. >> me actually. >> had a picture of a different susan crawford in it. >> so they don't even really know who it is. >> that they're. >> pouring this money into the. >> race against. >> but, you know, it's every. >> dirty trick in the book. >> they're trying. >> to make. >> me look. >> much more extreme in my. >> views. >> saying i've taken positions that i actually have never spoken about. and. you know, also running. >> just a really. >> dark attack. >> ads that. >> distortd and have false. >> claims in them. >> so, so, you know, every trick in the book. book is, is, you know, how you get turnout is how you try to get in a race like this, where presumably the thinking is a lot of folks aren't paying attention. so we can throw up

that ad about a susan crawford and, and that will stimulate some reaction among a portion of the base that you want to turn out. how how is your campaign addressing that, that those misperceptions and misdirections by elon musk and third parties? what are the resources that you're bringing in to set up your turnout? because at the end of the day, that's what it's about. unfortunately, as a judge, i've always been kind of, you know, as an elected official myself, doing the straight up politics, i've always been a little bit, you know, about judges who have to run for office. but here we are, and you've got to run a campaign. how do you counterbalance these narratives with your own campaign? >> well. >> you. >> know my campaign. i have a great campaethe record straight publicly as much as we possibly can, you. >> know, including. things like

getting me on shows. >> like yours to talk about what's. >> happening in wisconsin. >> i think voters, you know, still. don't understand that elon musk. >> is trying. >> to buy a seat. >> on the. >> wisconsin supreme court. >> so we are working. >> to get the word out through. >> our own. >> advertising, obviously through me traveling all over the state, talking to voters and every other medium. >> we can get into. >> it's. >> you know, including the power. of thousands of. >> volunteers across wisconsin. you know, we've got a. >> great network of support throughout wisconsin. >> people are out there, you know. >> knocking doors. >> and making phone calls and. doing the kind of voter to voter contact that's really effective in this state. we started here, but i want to make sure we end here, too, which is we're not just talking about wisconsin. we're talking about a race that has national implications. you have this headline from the wall street journal, the most important election of 2025. could the election of a single single state supreme court

justice redraw a state congressional delegation, upend the balance of the u.s. house and block donald trump? welcome to wisconsin 2025 election of the year. that is the pitch from democrats who are enticing donors with a partizan gerrymander as a chance to spoil the second half of mr. trump's presidency. for someone who is not in wisconsin, who was watching you talk about this race? what is your message for why wisconsin matters? well. >> you know, wisconsin. >> is a swing. >> state. >> and every single year there are. >> cases in. >> front of our wisconsin supreme court that deal with. conflicts about. election law, about. voting rights, even about election results. >> you know, i. >> just. mentioned a couple of minutes. >> ago that. >> in 2020, the wisconsin supreme court had a case in front of it brought. >> by the. >> trump campaign. >> trying to overthrow. >> the election. >> results in wisconsin. >> and that was narrowly shot down by.

>> a43 majority. >> on the wisconsin supreme court. so democracy is at stake in wisconsin. >> and that means that democracy. >> is at. stake nationally, because wisconsin is just one of those. pivotal states in every election. judge susan crawford, thank you so much for being with us this morning. thanks so much for the opportunity. next, we're going to mark 60 years since the selma bridge crossing known as selma bridge crossing known as bloody sunday. stay with us. (♪♪) (♪♪) voltaren... for long lasting arthritis pain relief. (♪♪) from the #1 rated brand in cordless outdoor power, the ego 22-inch aluminum deck mower. the most powerful mower in its class, producing the perfect razor sharp cut. find an ego retailer near you. when they separated families, we took them to court and won.

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the bs that mag is throwing up at. you white folks aren't negatively impacted because they're included, because all it talks about is, hey, our institutions should be mindful that we are a diverse nation. we want our institutions to be mindful that create equitable opportunities for people to access their american dream and include them as part of the growth of this country. how how were you blown up by that? how are you not advancing? how are you disadvantaged by that? and that's what this moment, i think, reminds us that those struggles were were about something bigger. it was about the promise that the country laid out. america said that we were all equal. we didn't we didn't just imagine and just out of out of whole cloth demanded it. they put it on paper. and so now we're just trying to live

out that dream, folks. and so that's that's what the 60th anniversary i think reminds me about and hopefully touches others. >> i remember walking, reading, walking with the wind when i was a high schooler, and it fundamentally transformed the way that i thought about american politics. i mean, specifically sort of rooting lewis's activism in this idea of the beloved community being prepared as they marched across that bridge to know that people were going to attack them and know to see in the face of the person who was going to cause them irreparable physical harm, that they would see that person as a child and imagine them as they were before the world impacted them. and that's that, sort of that rooting once love feels so very far from where we find ourselves in this moment. now for us, we have a quick programing night tonight. reverend al sharpton is going to be hosting politics nation live from selma to mark today's anniversary. that is tonight, 5

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