i was expecting. >> to see. >> but it was. >> it was beautiful. >> it was very moving. the babies. we all learned that we always have this, like what we learn today. yeah. and what we what i learned is this american life airs on npr, has a big audience not owned by npr. it's the pat mcafee model right now, espn. jonathan. >> yeah. >> that was that was news to me as well. the other thing i've learned right now, the market's. still pretty unhappy with all the economic news and plans coming out of washington, opening up lower again this morning down a few hundred points. we of course. >> were watching that. >> there you go. we can see it right there. about 300 points as we absorb more tariff news. >> all right okay. >> that does it for us this morning. we'll be back bright and early tomorrow. >> i can't wait. >> i'm ana cabrera picks up the coverage. >> a longer. >> shot right now. >> need a bigger boat? yeah. need a. >> bigger boat right now. >> on ana. >> cabrera report. >> second comic shockwaves.

>> the dow is. down again. this morning. >> after president trump. >> declines to rule. >> out a possible recession. >> and as his trade war intensifies. with new chinese. >> tariffs hitting. >> the u.s. today, plus the anti-trump, canada's new prime minister and his vow to make america show respect. >> canada never, ever will be part of america in any way, shape or form. >> also ahead, t-minus four days until a government shutdown. can speaker johnson bring his fractured party together to keep the lights on? and later, america's top diplomat overseas for peace talks with ukraine. but will tensions between trump and zelensky impact the. >> negotiating table? >> good morning and thanks for joining us. it's ten. >> eastern, 7 a.m. pacific. >> i'm ana. >> cabrera reporting from new york. >> and let's. >> get right. >> to our.

>> breaking economic. >> news this morning. >> stocks beginning the day with a sharp dip right now. >> down more. >> than 300 points. >> we know wall street. >> does not like uncertainty. and president trump has delivered plenty of that. as he juggles trade wars with. three different countries. and now less than two months on. >> the job. >> it appears the president may be softening his economic outlook. >> he is now. >> being pressed on. that one word. all presidents dread recession and passing up not. >> one, but. >> two chances to rule out a downturn. >> are you expecting a recession this year? >> i hate. >> to. predict things like that. >> there is a. period of transition because what we're doing is very big. we're bringing wealth back to america. that's a big thing. and there are always periods of it takes a little time. >> are you worried. >> about a recession? >> maria bartiromo. >> asked. >> you and you kind of hesitated.

>> i tell you what, she hesitated because. >> the sudden shock to america's. economic picture, driven not only by. >> the uncertainty over trump's tariff wars. but also the drastic cuts being carried out by doge, two massive initiatives with. lots of moving parts and. >> moving targets. >> we're joined now by nbc news. >> senior white house correspondent. >> garrett. >> hake in. >> washington, and. nbc news business and data. >> correspondent brian chung. here in new york. >> okay. >> brian, start us off. what's happening on wall street? >> yeah. what's happening. >> on wall. >> street is that we basically hit. >> the water mark where. >> we've erased all the gains that we had year to date on the dow jones. >> industrial average. >> so we have been up something like. >> 5% a few weeks. >> ago in. terms of. >> just. >> where we. were compared to. >> january 1st. we have. >> now, as. >> a result of these tariff headlines. >> just in the. >> last few weeks, erased all of those gains. you can see the dow. currently down. >> by about 350 points. >> it's only 0.8%. >> but again, what we're looking at here is. >> the. >> totality of the stock market slide. >> that we've been seeing. >> over the. >> past few weeks, where again.

>> it's mostly. >> been driven by these tariff related headlines as people are worried about. >> the impact of. >> prices as a result of these tariffs that are being levied. >> on importers. >> in the united states. i have. >> to bring in things. >> from our neighbors. >> to the north. >> and. >> south, but also. >> just about. >> the broad. >> business concerns. >> we heard the. >> likes of target. >> and walmart. >> target and best buy rather just in the hours after those tariffs were first put into place on mexico. >> and canada. >> last tuesday, saying, look, we're probably going to pass these prices on. >> to consumers. >> you see. wall street but also main street expressing. concern about all. >> of this. >> and garrett, the president saying one thing others in his administration are saying another on. >> the. possibility of a recession. what's with all the mixed messages? >> well, this comes on the heels of something unusual for donald trump, which is we've seen him express a bit of doubt about his economic plans over the last week or so. i think it started in his address to congress last week, when he talked about the idea that the tariffs might create. i believe the term he used then was small disruptions. we've heard other similar language from some of his cabinet secretaries essentially being forced to acknowledge the reality that we're living in here, where the markets are reacting in real time to his plans. but over the weekend on

meet the press, his commerce secretary allowed no such doubt to creep in when he was asked about the r word. listen to what howard lutnick told kristen welker. >> should americans brace for a recession? >> absolutely not. there's going to be no recession in america. i would never bet on recession. no chance. >> you appreciate the bullishness from howard lutnick here. but as the commerce secretary, he would think would probably be on the front lines of having to defend a recession from the american people and perhaps even from the president he serves, if we got to that point. so nothing but sunshine from him. but there's clearly some concern here within the administration more broadly that what they are trying to cast as a short term disruption on the way to this long term golden age might turn out to be a bit more complicated. >> and of course, brian, for a couple of years. >> even under president. >> biden, there. >> were questions about whether the us was on track for a recession. it never did really materialize. >> but now. >> we have this trade war. so

what's the current outlook? >> yeah. >> and i think that. >> you know, look, we've. >> been talking a lot about these headlines kind. >> of. >> garrett nicely outlined the politics of all of this. but i think that when you look at other indicators of what's been going on under this, you know. >> the hood. >> of this economy, there are some reasons for concern when. >> you think. >> about things like consumer sentiment at a 15 month low, that's kind of a leading indicator for what the economy could do going forward. you look at some of these job cuts that have been reported by the likes of challenger. this is kind of a third party group that tracks headlines over what companies are announcing, and also the federal government when it comes to those doge cuts. right. they noticed the. >> highest amount of. >> job cuts compared to any month just in the last month of february. since 2009, not a year you want to be comparing to. but none of those things i want to point out in and of themselves are recessionary. again, when it comes to a recession, this is actually something that is clearly defined by a group that says it's a group of economists, and they declare at a certain point in time, based off of a number of indicators beyond just economic growth in the form of gdp. hey, it looks like we're contracting in this economy. we are now in a recession. so none of these things are pointing

directly to that kind of direction right now. but i want to point out that these are kind of things that are just warning signs, little signals that say, okay, we could see this exacerbation of inflation, which we were trying to get over during the biden administration as a result of these tariffs that could slow growth. those are parts of the recipe to a recession, even if we are not in one right now. >> and i always think about unemployment when unemployment starts to really go up. that's another big, big. sign that recessions are coming. thank you very much, brian chung garrett hake, appreciate you both. >> let's talk more about all. >> this with msnbc political analyst and former. >> democratic congresswoman. >> from maryland, donna. >> edwards, and former new hampshire republican party chair jennifer horn. jennifer, so we just. heard the president not. ruling out. >> a recession. >> the market's. >> really been. >> down more. >> than they've. >> been up lately. >> and already. >> some trump voters are starting. >> to sour on his actions when fired civil servants, saying. she's no longer a trump supporter, saying of the cuts, as much as i think. >> that president trump is. >> doing wonderful things. >> for the country in some regards.

>> i don't. >> understand this. >> at all. what kind of political. peril do you see for the president and republicans? if the economy tanks? >> well. >> obviously significant in that quote you just gave from that federal worker kind of defines how how the voter sentiment is. going to be, you know, going to be filtered through all of this now that it's hitting her, now that she's feeling the consequences of, you know, an irresponsible president. now she's worried, now she has concerns, and we're going to see this. across the country. you know, i look at this as we're just starting to see. >> the real. >> life consequences. >> of what. >> happens in an oligarchy. trumps billionaires are pushing and executing policy that they will never feel the pain from that. you know, jeff bezos will never feel the impact of the idea of eliminating access to the united states postal service in rural america. you know, elon

musk will never care that a new car, the cost of a new car is going to go up $13,000. when we get into these trade wars with canada, the cost of the immediate impact on the cost of groceries on produce for families across america. if trump follows through on these tariffs with mexico, you know that that's that's such a great quote that you just used. because what's happening is that people are finally starting very slowly to feel what the immediate real life impact is going to be on them as individual citizens and families under this presidency. >> even as. >> the president hit. >> pause on these canada and mexico tariffs. >> congresswoman, he teased that he would hit them with more, and he indicated. >> the level. >> may not. >> even be. set yet, that they could go up. >> clearly, president trump believes keeping everyone on their toes. >> is a good thing. >> how do you see it? is america winning with this strategy? >> well, i don't think america is winning. more particularly,

americans are not winning with this strategy. you know, it's interesting because, you know, when we've seen the last couple of weeks of the downslide in the in the market, when ordinary americans are starting to take a look at their retirement accounts, their 401 k plans, they've also seen that same downslide. and to the extent that continues, individual americans are going to really feel this when it comes to the trade wars, when you hear, you know, major retailers saying, well, we don't have a choice, we're going to pass that along to consumers. that means every time you go into a store, you're going to be paying more for a product than you did a year ago or a month ago. and so i think as these things start to ripple out through the economy, you're going to see more of those stories, not just federal workers, but what about the places that lose federal workers and that impacts the receipts at the local diner and the dry

cleaners? these are things that really begin to impact small businesses on down the line. so i think we've only just begun here. and the president is creating chaos and instability and insecurity. and that, of course, is going to play out in terms of the way people see on personal economy. >> in that same fox interview. >> president trump. >> brushed off concerns. >> about that instability. and these. >> flip flops. >> on tariffs. >> watch. >> can you give us a sense of whether or not we are going to get clarity for the business community? >> well. >> i. >> think so. but you know, the tariffs could go up as time goes by and they may go up. and you know i don't know if it's predictability i think. >> so that's. >> not clarity. no i think i think that they say that you know it sounds good to. >> say will. >> we have clarity. >> you'll have a lot. >> but we may go up with some tariffs. it depends. we may go up. i don't think we'll go down but we may go up and but you're going to have they have plenty of clarity. they just use it.

that's like almost a sound bite. >> jennifer so much. for clarity. >> they may go up. they may go down. you used to run a state gop. what's your. >> read on the muddled message. >> for someone. >> framing himself. >> as pro-business? >> well. there's nothing pro-business about what donald trump is executing here as far as an economic plan goes. i mean, look at the cost of energy coming in from canada for three border states is going to rise dramatically. 25%, they're saying today, you know, industries and businesses in michigan and minnesota and new york, you know, critical economic hubs, you know, in that part of the in those parts of the country. so there's no clarity here. there's nothing that is pro-business here. and the president's lack of clarity in his message contributes to not just the insecurity that people feel, but the actual disruption of the of the markets, of the economy. >> congresswoman. >> canada's already. >> fighting back today. ontario will start levying. >> a.

>> 25% surcharge on electricity sent to. >> new york. >> minnesota as. >> well as michigan. if people in those. >> states see their energy. bills go up. >> how do democrats lay this on republicans without looking like they're cheerleading a bad economic outcome for their constituents? >> well, i think i think democrats have to really make clear where the blame is passed. we can't assume that customers, consumers in those three border states are going to realize where the where the problem is. and so democrats have to tell a very clear story and place the blame. i think it's appropriate in this circumstance to blame donald trump and his tariffs directly. when your electric bill goes up next month. and when, you know, business costs go up next month. so this is a reality. and i think democrats would be smart to say it early, often all the time about who's

to blame for this. >> former congresswoman donna. edwards and jennifer horne. thank you both. i appreciate the conversation, ladies. up next. >> face. to face. >> talks between the u.s. and ukraine. about ending. >> the war. we'll talk to the ranking. >> member on the house armed services committee. plus, no more mr. nice neighbor. >> the future. >> leader of canada, has a message for president trump. amid this. escalating trade war. >> also. >> the cdc will research. vaccines and autism. >> but isn't the science already settled? >> we'll talk with an expert. >> and later. another air scare after a. plane crashes. >> outside a. >> retirement community. >> in pennsylvania. we're back >> in pennsylvania. we're back in 90s. the itch and rash of moderate to severe eczema disrupts my skin, night and day. despite treatment, it's still not under control. but now, i have rinvoq. rinvoq is a once-daily pill... that reduces the itch... and helps clear the rash of eczema— ...fast. some taking rinvoq felt significant itch relief

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intense diplomacy ahead. president zelenskyy is not. here yet in jeddah. secretary of state rubio. >> not here. >> yet in jeddah. but of course, zelenskyy is trying to repair the damage from that devastating meeting in the oval office. and he will know that if these talks fail. >> he'll face. >> face more. >> pressure from. >> president trump. this morning, a message. >> from moscow. wave after wave of airstrikes. >> on. >> ukrainian cities, killing 24. >> in 1. day this weekend. as the secretary of state heads to. >> saudi arabia for. talks with kyiv. president trump pressuring ukraine to agree to a ceasefire. >> a lot of people died this week, as you know, in ukraine. not only ukrainians, but russians. so i think everybody wants to see it get done. we're going to make a lot of progress, i believe, this week. >> trump wants more than a. >> minerals deal. >> two u.s. officials telling nbc. >> news he. >> wants a change in president

zelensky's attitude to peace. >> ukraine, desperate. >> to persuade the trump administration. >> to resume crucial. >> intelligence sharing. >> the president asked. >> about comments. >> by poland's leader. >> that ukraine wouldn't. >> survive without. >> the intelligence sharing, had. >> this response. >> it may not survive anyway. >> while the vice president faced. >> protesters outside his ohio. >> home this weekend while. >> out with. >> his three year old daughter. the president's top ally, elon. >> musk. >> writing on x. >> that. >> if he turned off. >> his starlink service. ukraine's entire. >> front. >> line would collapse. >> zelenskyy posting his. >> own message ukraine has been seeking peace from the. >> very first second. >> of this war. >> president zelenskyy will meet with saudi arabia's crown prince today hoping for mediation. >> but on the. >> front lines, russia battling to regain part. >> of its kursk region, its troops using abandoned gas. >> pipelines to attack. >> nbc news. >> getting. >> close to the russian front line last week. the russian military and appreciate. >> being filmed. but believe me. >> there are a.

>> lot of troops there. >> this weekend. >> russia releasing video. >> of drone strikes on ukrainian tanks in kursk as president. >> trump pushes. >> for peace talks. this is. >> the language. >> of the battlefield. >> and that fight. over kursk could take months and therefore raises the question. >> whether russia. >> really is ready for a cease fire, since it clearly thinks that it is gaining territory that way. meanwhile, ukrainians are coming here to jeddah, according to reports, and there are many. they do have things that they are going to come to ask for. already, of course, asking. for security guarantees infuriated president trump. so, you. >> know. >> trying to end this war. it's not turning out to be as. >> easy as perhaps. >> president trump has suggested. >> keir simmons, that is an understatement. >> no doubt. thank you. and joining. >> us now. >> is democratic. >> congressman adam. >> smith of washington state. >> he's the. ranking member on. >> the. armed services committee.

>> congressman, right now. u.s. aid. >> intel sharing with. >> ukraine on pause. and as we heard from keir, the trump administration is looking for more than just a mineral deal here. >> the mineral. >> deal. they want. >> to. >> see zelensky. change his attitude. toward peace talks, including a willingness. >> to give up territory to russia. president trump wants. >> zelensky to potentially. >> step down. >> how do you see these requests? >> are they in. ukraine's best interests? are they in america's. >> best interest? >> they're in putin and russia's. >> best interests. >> i mean, look. >> what donald trump has done. >> since he's become president. he's not looking for peace. he's basically looking. to cripple ukraine. so that russia can win the war and take over ukraine. there is no pressure. >> on putin and. >> russia right now. >> meanwhile. president trump is undermining ukraine's. ability to defend itself and showing. >> putin a big, fat target that he can just take. and we've seen. >> the result. >> russia has increased their attacks on ukraine. they show. >> no signs of being willing. >> to reach a.

>> peace deal because. president trump. >> has said. >> you know, you. >> can have it all. so this. >> is a really, really. bad situation that president trump has created that has weakened. >> ukraine. >> and frankly, made. peace less likely. >> okay, you need. >> to get. >> zelensky to the peace table. >> well, as zelensky said, he didn't. >> want this war in the. >> first place. >> the person you need to get to the peace table. is putin and russia. and donald trump is just opening the door wide for them. >> so that they. >> feel no pressure. >> well. >> as these talks get going, let's. >> hear more from president trump. here's more of. >> his. >> framing. >> he took money out of this country under biden like candy from a baby. it was so easy with that same attitude. and i just don't think he's grateful. >> congressman. >> what do you say to americans who don't want to see the u.s. keep pumping. resources into what appears to be. >> a never ending war?

>> well. >> i say that we need. >> to. >> get to peace. >> but the. >> way to get to peace. >> is to keep the pressure on putin, not to take it off. >> russia actually had. >> been. >> feeling the pressure. >> we've seen. >> the statistics. >> the amount. >> of military. >> equipment and troops that they've. >> lost in. >> this conflict. >> is high. their economy is suffering. >> inflation has gone up. >> their entire economy now is dependent upon the war economy, which cannot last. there was pressure on putin to come to the peace table before donald trump walked in and took all of that pressure off. we all. want to get to peace in ukraine. nobody more than president zelensky and the ukrainian people, by the way. but we're not going to get there by telling putin that he can have whatever he wants. and if russia takes ukraine, they're in a position then to threaten the rest of eastern europe and stabilize the entire european continent, and that undermines our interests. but again, i want to emphasize you want peace. >> figure out some. >> way to force putin to come to

the negotiating table and be willing to negotiate that peace. let us not. >> forget that despite. >> donald trump rewriting. >> history, putin and russia started this war. there would be no war without putin and russia's decision. >> well, speaking of. >> pressure on putin. >> i want. >> you to hear from senator lindsey. >> graham this weekend. >> yeah. >> i am worried about. >> cutting off. >> intelligence and weapons to ukraine as long as the fighting is going on, if we. >> pull the. >> plug on ukraine. >> it'll be worth. >> worse than afghanistan until we have a cease fire. i would give ukraine what they need and in terms. >> of. >> intelligence and weapons to defend themselves. >> do you do. >> you agree with senator am >> i agree with senator graham. i don't know why senator graham has been such a consistent supporter of president trump, who is against everything that senator graham just said and is in favor of. letting putin and russia just run roughshod over ukraine and eastern europe. >> so i'd like to see senator. >> graham express that opinion directly to president trump and

stop supporting. >> him so much. >> as he guts ukraine and gives russia an absolute open door to take over ukraine. >> nbc news reported that some trump. >> cabinet secretaries. >> challenged elon musk and. his cuts in a contentious white house meeting. >> this was last week. >> and among. them was secretary of state rubio. trump denies any clash, but given that rubio. is a big piece of what's happening in saudi arabia. >> right. >> now. >> these conversations. >> with ukraine, given. that background. >> what do you see. >> as the impact. >> as it. >> applies to his ability to. >> speak on behalf. >> of the trump administration? can ukraine. >> count on whatever the secretary says. >> to stick? >> there were two quick points. first of all, these are trump's cuts to our government. musk is implementing what trump. >> wants for. >> trump to try to hide. >> behind musk. and this is the point. >> president trump. >> is in charge. this is happening because he. wants it to happen. as far as what role

secretary rubio plays in the administration. i mean, it all comes from trump. and right now, secretary rubio does not appear to have a particularly strong hand. but again, all comes back to president trump. president trump is the one who's driving the surrender approach on ukraine. president trump is the one who is driving the gutting of our federal government. the cutting off of services to veterans, the ending of programs that are vital to people all across this country, the random firings that are undermining the efficiency of things like the faa. this is president trump's agenda. he needs to. >> be held. >> accountable for it. >> democratic congressman adam smith, thank you very. >> much for joining us. >> thank you. >> we turn now to. >> syria, where. >> hundreds have reportedly been killed in a new wave of violence. the new syrian interim president. >> is calling. >> for unity and calm after violence erupted between fighters affiliated with the new government and those still loyal. >> to ousted dictator. >> bashar al assad. according to war monitoring groups, those

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story this morning. more turmoil on wall. >> street amid trump's trade wars. >> stocks opening lower. you can see. >> currently down. >> 358 points after president trump said the economy would see. >> a. period of. >> transition and he refused. >> to rule out a recession. >> again. >> the dow still down. we will keep an eye. >> on this and bring you. >> any major movements. >> meanwhile, canada. >> has a new. >> leader, the liberal party. choosing mark carney, the former head. >> of the. >> bank of. >> canada, to succeed prime minister. >> justin trudeau. >> carney has never served in public office before, but took home a stunning 86% of the vote. his win comes in the midst of this trade. >> war with the united. >> states, and carney suggested. >> in his acceptance speech. >> he won't back down from the fight. >> nbc news. >> correspondent jay gray has more from ottawa. jay. >> hey there. >> and let's start. >> with all the politics. involved here. overnight, banker. >> mark carney. >> elected as liberal leader by an overwhelming majority of

members of that party, close to 86%. now he's expected to be sworn in as prime minister. sometime early. >> this week. >> as justin trudeau steps aside. and then he'll have to turn around. >> pretty. >> quickly and run. >> for reelection to maintain. >> that position against. >> the. conservative leader, pierre poilievre. >> this all unfolding as the back and forth. over tariffs and trade war between the. us and canada intensifies. >> my government will keep. >> our tariffs on until the americans show us respect. we didn't ask for this fight, but canadians are always ready. >> when. >> someone else drops the gloves. so the americans. >> they should make. >> no. >> mistake in trade, as in hockey canada will win. there is really a strong sense of nationalism across this country right now. we've seen protests at the us. >> embassy. >> a boycott on american goods and american wine and liquor pulled. from the shelves of canadian government owned liquor

stores here. >> we know. >> that travel has been affected. we've been told. >> that. a lot of trips from canada to. >> the. >> us, vacations. >> especially. >> have been canceled at this point. and remember, this is another week where we could see more tariffs levied here. in fact, president trump has said he plans to continue with the idea of enacting a 25% tariff on canadian canadian steel and aluminum that could come as early as wednesday. and then he's also suggested that he may charge a reciprocal tariff on dairy goods. and lumber. so a lot of back and forth, a lot of confusion and canadians saying at this point they feel like they're in limbo. but one thing they're certain of is that they'll continue to support their country. in ottawa, i'm jay gray. >> now back to you. >> thank you so much, jay.

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vaccines are linked to autism. >> aren't new. >> this was debunked years ago. in 2018, you published a book about your own daughter, rachel's autism. debunking this link. do you see any value in the cdc looking. into this right now? could it help, perhaps put. >> conspiracies to bed? >> no, i don't. >> really see. >> a positive sign. >> positive reason. >> for doing this. and we've. >> got three very. >> strong convergent lines of evidence. >> that there's. >> zero link between vaccines and autism. first, we. >> have. >> actual data. >> from all. >> of the different assertions, whether they. >> claimed it was. >> mmr vaccine back in the late. >> 1990s or when. rfk jr. claimed it was thimerosal. >> preservative that's in vaccine. all of those studies we have in the open access published. >> literature. >> large epidemiologic studies, thousands of kids, 0.10.2. lack of plausibility. >> we have. >> now more than 100 autism genes that have been identified. autism are represents processes

that occur. >> in early fetal. >> brain development. >> well before. >> kids ever, ever see vaccines. so if there's any environmental influence, it's around the. >> time of conception or in the first trimester. >> of pregnancy. and third, more recently, we have brain assembled brain organoid studies, really mini brains. >> in the test. >> tube using neurons with autism genes. >> so they. >> all point to. >> the same thing, the genetic basis of autism. and so. >> it's just a way to. >> cause people to question. the safety of vaccines and. cause people to have doubts. >> which they. >> don't need to have. >> so do you believe. >> though more research is needed. into what causes autism? could that be. >> a good use of resources? >> oh, absolutely. >> you know where. >> i am. >> at baylor college of medicine. we have an extraordinary. neurological research institute looking into the details of the genetics of autism, how the. autism genes interact with other universities across. >> the country are. >> looking into that.

>> so there's. >> always more to learn. >> in fact, there are, you know, some environmental triggers that occur in early pregnancy that interact with autism genes. for instance, if a. >> pregnant woman. >> doesn't realize around the time of conception that she's pregnant is on. >> an anti-seizure. >> medicine called depakote, or. >> also known. >> as valproic acid, that can cause the newborn infant. >> to ultimately. >> go on to have. >> an autism. >> phenotype because it's. >> interacting with. >> the autism genes. >> we need. >> more of those kinds of studies and actually said that. directly to rfk jr. many years ago, but i couldn't engage him on it. so there's a lot more to do but to but. >> to waste. >> taxpayer dollars and time and energy. >> of the scientific community around vaccines. is just. >> a. fruitless endeavor. >> it's hard to know also where the resources are. >> how many resources there are to go. >> around when. >> it comes to different research pursuits. given all the cuts we've been. >> seeing with doge, including cuts. >> at nih, and it's. >> all. coming as we're seeing more and more measles cases. >> so we're dealing. >> with a health. crisis right now in. this country, up. to 248

cases across. more than a dozen states. medical experts say this is. >> largely due to decreased. >> vaccination rates. how can doctors and officials get those vaccination rates back up? >> yeah, this is all hands on deck. and i mean. >> this is a very. >> large and dangerous. >> measles epidemic. >> we're facing here in texas. the official numbers around 200. but there's probably many, many more kids. >> who. >> are going to be diagnosed sooner yet. or or. >> have somehow escaped medical attention. and it's not just the cases and it's, you know, 20. >> plus hospitalizations. >> and of course, we've. >> had the measles death. >> in the child. >> in texas and possibly. >> the adult. >> in new mexico. >> this is. >> a. >> horrible, horrible. >> epidemic, and it continues. >> to. >> accelerate. >> and it will get. >> some more. >> will get some new. >> numbers again tomorrow. and each time the numbers are higher than they were previously. >> and remember, the. >> incubation period of measles is 12 to 13 days. >> so anytime. >> the numbers are going up. >> you know this measles. >> epidemic will last at least. >> a couple of more weeks.

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right over that way. first responders say they were a second away from being so much worse this morning. investigators are looking into. this frightening. >> scene. >> receiving multiple calls. >> for an aircraft crash. >> after a small private plane crashed into a residential area in lancaster. >> county, pennsylvania. >> remarkably, all five. people on board survived. according to air traffic control, someone on the plane reported an open door on the aircraft shortly after takeoff and requested permission to return to lancaster airport. >> lancaster tower. bonanza 347. mike has an open door. we need to return for a landing. mike, pull up. >> rescue one, lancaster tower. the aircraft is down just behind the terminal. >> images of the crash show the tail of the plane in a parking lot, while the rest of the aircraft was engulfed in flames. the fire on the ground damaged multiple vehicles. first responders arrived within minutes. >> had that plane stayed in the

air for another half a second, it had been into the second or third floor of a. multi-story structure. that housed a number of apartments. >> brian pipkin witnessed the crash and called 911 before rushing to help. >> the fire was so hot. >> i was covering my face. >> and the smoke was so thick. >> and at. >> that point cars. were on fire. >> and. >> they were popping. and explosions. >> while this latest crash did not involve a commercial aircraft, it comes at a time when aviation safety is under the microscope. >> this is a small airplane. >> the pilot. >> reports a door that's come open. that is a. >> known problem. >> it is. >> nothing like. any of the airliner accidents or. >> even the jet accidents. >> that we've seen. >> but travelers across the country are on edge with a number of major air. disasters this year in. >> washington. >> dc, philadelphia and toronto. in lancaster, first responders assured the public they're ready. >> we practice. >> we train, we communicate.

today is just a great example of how, even in a bad situation so far, we've had a pretty good ending. >> all five of. >> the passengers remain in the hospital. three of them have been admitted to burns units. now, the ntsb says it is aware of the situation and should release information sometime soon. anna. >> wishing those. folks a full recovery. erin mclaughlin. thank you. and that does it for us today. thank you so much. >> for joining us. hope you had a. >> wonderful weekend. >> and a good. >> week ahead. i'll see you. >> back here tomorrow. >> i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. >> jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. >> good morning. >> 11 a.m. eastern, 8 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin with breaking news. right now. the dow jones. is down. it's down almost 400 points at this hour. amid growing fears around the. effects of