political consequences. >> we have republicans now advocating for the elimination of health care for the poor. >> just hours after swearing to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution of the united states, donald trump issued an executive order to defy one of its most consequential amendments. >> we are all watching and waiting to see who is going to hold the line. don't miss the weekends. >> saturday and sunday mornings at 8:00. >> on msnbc. >> right now on anna cabrera reports. trump's tariffs go worldwide. europe retaliating against the president's trade war. plus, a brand. >> new inflation. >> report hot. >> off the press. >> what it all. >> means for american consumers. >> also, the. >> education department's workforce. slashed in. >> half. >> its new. >> secretary citing bureaucratic bloat. >> is it the. >> opening salvo for. shutting down a department. serving 50 million students? >> and peace. >> in reach. ukraine agrees to. >> a. >> 30 day. >> ceasefire with russia. but

will. >> vladimir. >> putin accept. >> the terms? >> hello? on this. >> busy wednesday, it's 10:00 eastern, 7. >> a.m. pacific. >> i'm ana. >> cabrera. >> reporting from new york. and today. >> the world. >> retaliating as president trump's latest tariffs take effect. a 25% penalty now in effect for all steel and aluminum imports into the u.s. and just. >> moments ago. >> canada announced. $20 billion of reciprocal tariffs. >> in response. >> starting tomorrow in europe, swiftly imposing counter-tariffs on american goods as well. >> a top trump. >> economic official says. >> this tit. >> for tat will all be worth it. >> even if a recession is. >> the ultimate cost. >> as for president. >> trump. >> yesterday, he. changed his tune on new recession fears. >> listen. do you think. there will. >> be a recession? >> i don't see it at all. i think this country is going to boom.

>> one note of calm in this volatile economic landscape. >> the latest. >> inflation report came in slightly. >> cooler than expected. >> much to discuss. >> with nbc's garrett hake at the white house. >> nbc news senior business. >> correspondent christine romans, former chief. >> of. >> staff to vice president pence, marc short and. democratic strategist and. >> salty politics substack. >> author julie roginsky. >> garrett. >> we'll dig. >> into the new. >> inflation report. >> in just a moment. >> but is there any concern at. >> the white house there that this tariff war is now dominating the. >> economic picture? >> well. >> there may be some concern. >> from the president's. >> advisers. >> and there's. >> certainly some. concern from. >> republicans on. capitol hill who don't feel. >> as strongly as he does about the. >> utility of. tariffs and who are watching the markets. >> very closely. >> to see. >> what's happening. with their portfolios. and their constituents portfolios. >> but you have. >> to remember. >> that across. >> sort of every. >> issue that the. >> president deals with, there. >> is perhaps nothing that donald. >> trump believes in more than the utility of. >> tariffs to. >> solve any kind of issue. and

so. >> i. >> think. it's highly unlikely he's going to back down from it anytime soon. >> and candidly, i. >> think they view this inflation report that just came in. as more evidence. >> that at least some of their policies. >> are working. >> the white. >> house put out a statement. just a few minutes ago arguing that this report. >> taken with. >> the jobs numbers. that came in last week, should be. >> a sign. >> essentially. >> that things aren't as bad as the media predicts. experts are expecting when will. >> they learn. >> to stop doubting president trump? >> asks white house press secretary. caroline leavitt. >> so to the. >> degree there is. >> doubt in. >> the air here at the white house. >> it doesn't seem like any of it's going to change course for this administration. >> and. >> christine, the. >> top suppliers. >> of steel we know. >> to the u.s. are canada. >> brazil and mexico. nearly all. >> aluminum in the u.s. comes from canada. and of course, canada. >> now also. >> slapping more tariffs on. u.s. products. how is all of this going to impact the american consumer? which products specifically could be affected? >> i mean, all kinds. >> of things. >> especially the. >> auto. >> industry. >> where even if.

>> you have a. >> domestic producer. >> of auto. >> parts. >> parts of those parts. >> actually could be. canadian steel. >> that would be. >> then tariffed. >> and that adds. >> to the cost of even something made in the u.s. so it's. >> a very. >> integrated manufacturing. >> and production. >> system we. have between the us. >> mexico and canada. >> and steel and aluminum are. >> the backbone for so many of these products. >> so just about everything. and in. >> fact, for cars. >> you see forecasts from anywhere from 4000. >> to. >> $12,000 for the added to the price. >> of a new. car or truck. >> because of the metal. >> and the other tariffs that the president has. been threatening. now they have. carved out. >> autos so. >> far and say they're going to. >> maybe put those. >> back on in april, but not the. >> metal that goes into. >> the cars. so that's a really important place to watch here, even as the inflation numbers. >> give a. >> little bit of a sigh of. >> relief for so many people today. >> yeah. >> and of. >> course. >> metal products. >> go into. >> a. >> whole host. >> of other. >> things that we use and we consume. i understand we got the. >> latest inflation report. >> this morning. >> perhaps a little good news. >> what can you. >> tell us about it.

>> so a. >> little lighter. >> as economists would say than expected. >> so inflation. >> still higher. >> than the federal reserve. >> would like to see. >> still higher. >> than normal. >> but. 2.8% inflation. >> growth year over year and growing. from january to february, 0.2%. >> that was. >> better than the so-called experts, as the president would say we're expecting. and in fact, half of that gain is because. >> of shelter. >> we still. >> have a housing crunch in this country, a. >> housing. >> a housing. >> affordability crunch. and you're seeing that still in those numbers. but certainly that. >> is. >> better, better. >> and moving. >> finally in the right direction. >> so we've got. >> one month is. >> not the. >> whole trend by the way. >> but we'll keep watching. and i can't help but wonder. >> like, you know, the. >> tariff stuff we've. >> been talking about hasn't. >> really those are not in effect. those are not. >> this is this is rearview mirror. >> we know the future, though very murky because these cost tariffs are surcharges at the border. and people who import pay that. and then they can pass some of that down to consumers. >> and we are. >> starting to see the ground level impacts of all this. the kentucky bourbon industry, for example, struggling already because of canadian reprisal.

craft brewing companies planning to incur thousands in. >> higher. >> costs for cans. >> but when i. >> went to listen to commerce secretary howard lutnick, who says any potential economic pain will be. >> worth it. >> will these. >> policies be worth it if they lead to a recession. >> even a short term recession? >> these policies. >> are the most important. thing america has. >> ever had. >> so it is worth it. >> it is. >> worth it. >> it is not chaotic, and the only one who thinks it's. chaotic is someone who's being silly. >> it's like trying to say we aren't seeing what we're seeing with our own eyes, or hearing what we're hearing with our own eyes, or feeling what people are feeling. they say, these are great, but we do know prices are going up in some areas. we know businesses. are expressing. >> worry about. >> these tariffs. >> we know. >> recession fears are growing. and so who. >> is this. >> really benefiting? >> well, i. think that markets. >> rallied after the election because they wanted to see a

continuation of the first trump administration policies. a deregulatory tax cut agenda. >> they did not anticipate. >> that this would be the trade agenda that trump would pursue. >> because in the first. >> administration, he used it for negotiation purposes. >> but he. >> has surrounded. >> himself with the economic advisers. >> who are. >> the true. >> believers in tariff policy. and it's not just an. >> economic calamity. there's also a. >> national security. repercussion to these tariffs in many cases. >> in the first administration, we were looking to build. relationships with partners. >> so they would not be. >> as dependent upon china. >> what we're doing is we're. >> driving our friends and allies to. >> have more. >> trade agreements with china, as opposed. >> to us through. >> these policies. >> so there's an economic consequence. >> there's also a national security consequence. and i think what you're going to see as far as. >> the. >> next step to christine's point is, is. >> that. >> with the. >> lower cpi number today. >> i think you're. >> going to see the president pretty quickly. >> shift blame to jerome powell. he only appointed. jerome powell. he's never been very close to jerome powell. and i think he's going to say. >> the. >> fed needs. to move quicker in lowering rates because he. wants to deflect the. blame for. >> what his. trade policy is

doing to the. >> economy right now. >> so i'm. >> not hearing any upside to these trade policies. >> i don't think i don't think there's upside. i'm certainly. >> not a proponent of the. >> protectionist policies of the administration is pursuing. i think that in the first administration, again, he felt like he was hampered by advisers who did not support the same trade policy. but he's very intentionally surrounded himself with people who are true believers in this, people who are like peter navarro, labor union democrats their whole life, who this is their policy that they advance. and so this is i think this is the beginning. >> he's outlined very specifically. >> on april 2nd. >> there is. >> more coming reciprocity, tariffs, copper tariffs. >> we've begun. >> the steel and aluminum. >> they're going to be expanded. >> more globally. and so i think that this. >> is this is the. >> agenda that. >> he's pursuing. i think it's he. thinks this is going to make over the us economy. but i think there's going to be significant pain for consumers in the short term. >> julie. >> the wall street journal editorial board blasted trump's trade policy, writing. >> quote. >> first, he whacks u.s. automakers with tariffs that raise their production costs. then he tries to shield them from foreign competition. by whacking american consumers. we

said from the beginning that this north american trade war is the dumbest in history, and we were being kind. this is a typically conservative publication. can republicans and the trump administration weather this? well, you can't gaslight the markets and you can't gaslight consumers. you know what you're. >> paying when you're. >> paying for groceries. you know what your portfolio. >> is showing. you know what your. >> 401 k is showing. >> and there are plenty of people. >> including many of those who voted for. >> donald trump, who now are looking at. their retirement, who are. >> looking at their grocery prices, who. are looking at the tariffs that are going to kick. >> in, that. >> will undoubtedly pass the prices, the price increases along to those consumers. and they're saying, we can't do this. i mean. >> don't forget joe biden. >> for all that republicans used to say. >> that joe biden was. >> telling everybody that the economy was. >> doing very well. but people. >> weren't feeling it in their daily lives. this is exactly what the trump administration. >> is doing now. >> they're taking a. >> page out of the. >> biden. >> administration and. >> trying to convince people that the markers. >> are good. >> but what you're feeling. >> is not really what you're

feeling. >> the difference is that for biden, the markers were good. >> in this case, the markers are all trending downward. i mean. >> we got this little, as you said, this. >> this pretty. >> positive ish. >> report this morning. but as. christine said, it's one month and. >> it doesn't take into account groceries, and it doesn't. >> take into account. >> other things that are very volatile. and it's before these tariffs. >> kick in. and as mark said, come next. >> month those tariffs are going to go. >> through the roof. >> and that's. >> going to be felt. >> almost immediately by consumers. so you can't gaslight and you can't lie to people about. >> what they're paying out. >> of their pocket. they see it. people are feeling it on main street and could feel even more. and then wall street continues to just go down, down, down. garrett. we were just showing. the board this morning. the dow jones was down another 100 points or so just in the last seconds here with all this market turbulence tesla stock has taken a serious hit. and i wonder did that factor into the president hosting elon musk and a whole bunch of teslas on the white house lawn yesterday? >> yeah. >> it certainly did. >> tesla was. >> down about 15%. >> earlier this. >> week with president trump, who i've covered for. >> a long time. >> sometimes having the. same

enemies is something. >> that will. >> push him closer to a person. >> donald trump has made it pretty clear he's. >> not. >> a big fan of electric cars. but he is a fan of elon musk and as. >> has musk's. >> businesses. have been boycotted. >> in. >> some cases. >> vandalized around the country as people have been reacting to his role in the trump administration. >> that has only pushed trump. >> and musk already ideological allies, closer. >> into what i can only describe as a bromance. and since we have been on the air, the president just posted on truth social. wow, people are loving elon a. great patriot. nice to see signing it. djt i have no idea what he's referencing, but it does. >> make the point for us that these two have. >> grown closer together as their political. >> ideologies have been in sync. >> even although the. >> businesses in which they, you know, kind of built themselves. >> are not aligned. >> and again, the president. >> often railed against. >> electric vehicles on the campaign trail. now sitting. >> in one on the white house south lawn. >> yeah. julie, what's your reaction to this tesla stunt? is it ironic that the president is

now touting electric vehicles? i mean. >> first of all, it's not legal. >> let's start with that. second, you can't do this on the property. >> of the white house. >> it's federal property. second. >> i mean, really, the president. >> is. basically a. >> car. >> salesman now. it's just it's just astounding with everything that's. >> going on. i mean, literally. >> with everything. >> that's going on in the world. >> he's taking time out of his. >> day to array 4 or 5. >> teslas on the white house lawn and basically act like a showroom. salesman for, by the way, i don't know who he thinks is buying. >> teslas, but i can guarantee you. >> that they're out of reach, many of them for the. >> average trump voter. >> so i'm not sure who in the maga universe he's urging to buy teslas because tesla is consistently, in previous iterations, were bought by wealthier, environmentally, environmentally conscious people. >> and so, you know, if. >> he's trying to now get maga to go. >> buy teslas, i think that's. >> not going to be very successful. but it does. >> underscore that. >> the protest. >> against tesla. and the. >> fact that the. market is driving tesla down is really having an effect. >> on elon musk in. >> a truly tangible way. otherwise, the president united

states would not be coming out and taking time out of his. >> day to effectively. >> sell teslas. >> well, and. >> this is. >> mark one brand. >> one type. >> of car. >> that affects one business owner, elon musk. >> but other u.s. >> automakers are saying, what the heck? i mean, here's a quote from another automaker here in the u.s. telling nbc news tesla has benefited more from taxpayer money than any other carmaker by far. now the white house is marketing tesla vehicles. what's next? >> i think that's exactly. >> the right irony. the reality is that for. >> many. >> for many. of us, we've opposed, not tesla's. >> we've opposed taxpayer subsidies of. >> electric vehicles leaving. >> the marketplace. >> you can choose what. >> they want. but it shouldn't be subsidized. >> by average americans to pay for what wealthy americans can afford. >> and so that's. been our position. now you're. >> using the government. property to promote it. at the same time on the. >> left, they've always been champions of this. and now they're destroying tesla dealerships. and so there's an enormous irony on both sides to. >> how this is playing out. >> it's all. >> just kind. >> of mind blowing. >> i have to say. >> garrett. hey. >> christine romans, marc short,

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lucky you, it's on sale now. violence in ukraine. secretary of state marco rubio and top ukrainian officials yesterday announcing that ukraine. >> has accepted. >> a proposal from the trump administration. for a. >> 30 day. >> cease fire with russia. >> it also restarted intel sharing between the u.s. and ukraine, and security aid that was cut off after president trump's blowup with president zelensky in the oval office. now, this deal outlines humanitarian relief efforts during that 30 day cease fire period and exchange of prisoners of war. and a deal between the united states and ukraine on mineral resources. but will russia agree to the terms? joining us now, new york times. >> chief. >> white house correspdent and former moscow bureau chief peter baker. so, peter, the u.s. and ukraine are on board. russia is now the big open question here. >> i want you to listen. >> to secretary of state marco

rubio on that. >> we'll see what the response is. >> if their. >> response is yes. >> then we. >> know we've made real. >> progress and there's a real chance of peace. if their response is no. it would be highly unfortunate and it would make their intentions clear. so we hope to have a positive answer from them. the ball is truly in their court. >> peter. >> what will you be watching for from putin? >> yeah, look, it's a real test. of course. >> it's a. >> test of both. >> putin's intentions and. >> trump's ability. >> to get him. >> to the table. >> they have not. the kremlin has not yet accepted. this cease fire. they're waiting to hear from. trump officials about the details. >> steve witkoff. >> the president's friend and special envoy, is expected to travel to moscow and talk to the russians about this, and we'll see. but of course, a cease fire is only really the beginning of a real peace effort. it's the easiest part to say we're going to stop shooting for 30 days. >> the hard part would still. >> be ahead if russia even does. accept it, which is to say, how do you actually end a war? on

what terms and does it reward russia for the aggression that they have been waging these last three years, really last. 11 years, going back to 2014? and would ukraine accept a deal that requires them to lose their territory, as the trump administration is saying, without security guarantees from the united states, that's. >> a huge. >> hurdle to overcome. but this is a big moment. we'll see if it leads to something bigger, and it will see particularly what the response from moscow is. >> and this deal coming together less than two weeks after that oval office blowup with zelensky, trump now is saying he'd welcome back zelensky to the white house. where does that leave the u. s. ukraine relationship now? >> well. >> i don't think that donald trump is any bigger friends right now, volodymyr zelensky. i think that he has he came into this with years worth of antipathy toward ukraine. but zelenskyy is a pragmatist. he recognizes and has been told by his european allies that he needs to keep the u.s. on board. and so he's agreed to this minerals deal. he's agreed to this ceasefire to sort of test

the proposition. but he's a skeptic of ceasefires. he doesn't want to let the russians simply regroup and then attack again. so i think he's going to want to make sure it's it stays limited until. >> there's. >> an. actual deal that he. >> can live with. >> peter baker, as always, thank you very much for being with us. and joining us now is democratic senator richard blumenthal of connecticut, who serves on the armed services committee. senator, good to see you. how are you looking at this proposal? is it a clear breakthrough in this war? and what do you think russia will do with it? >> i think. >> it's a very. >> positive and encouraging development. and it does put the onus on russia. i think putin is going to try to stall, and only donald trump putting pressure on putin directly will persuade him to agree to this cease fire. putin thinks he can outlast us. he thinks that trump may again suspend military and intelligence aid. one of the most encouraging parts of this

cease fire agreement between the united states and ukraine is that we're going to resume military and intelligence aid. there's $3.8 billion worth of essential munitions, artillery, defense equipment sitting partly on the polish border, ready to go to ukraine, essential to ukraine's ongoing and in fact, more and more successful effort. to push. back russia, whose economy is on the rocks. putin is going to be. feeling the results as well. >> so i think a lot of people might look at this skeptically, because if there is a 30 day pause in the fighting. we were just discussing with peter, that's still a long ways from lasting peace. how confident are you that lasting peace could come from this? and it wouldn't just, you know, a 30 day pause end up being a chance for russia to reset its military. >> well, peter baker makes an excellent point. i'm a strong. >> supporter. >> one of the strongest in the

senate. i've been. >> to ukraine six times. i've met. >> with volodymyr zelensky, probably 15, in paris, munich as well as in kyiv. and i think the ukrainians are going to continue to fight. when i first met with them, after they had pushed back the russians, he said to me, we'll fight with pittsburgh. if we need to. and they are so zealous because they are defending the independence and freedom of their own country. and what they're doing is vital to our national security. so in the long run, we have an important security interest for the nato countries, for our own national defense in providing this military aid and strengthening ukraine's position as it goes into negotiations, which inevitably will happen. so i think long term, this cease fire could be a very positive development. but i think a lot has to happen for success to be realized at the negotiating table. and the principal obstacle to peace is vladimir

putin, who thinks of himself as the emperor, the restorer of. the soviet empire or the great russian empire. and only donald trump standing up to him can stop vladimir putin. >> do you think donald trump will stand up to him? do you think this administration will get tough with russia? does the u.s. have leverage? >> i think my republican colleagues here in the united states senate have an obligation to abandon their silence, which in some respects amounts to complicity in donald trump's past encouragement and support for putin. only if there is pressure on donald trump will he resist the apparent allure of his bro. vladimir putin and his allegiance to strongmen around the world is destroying, in effect, the rule of law and the world order in a very historic

way, and not a good way for the united states long term interests. so will he stand up to vladimir putin in helsinki and the experience there? more recently, the oval office blow and his subsequent remarks supporting putin indicate the answer is no. but in the long term, our national interest requires him to stand up to putin and side with zelensky and ukraine and the brave freedom fighters who continue their struggle, and they will continue this fight. count on it. >> senator, i want to pivot to the potential government shutdown that is quickly approaching. yesterday, house republicans passed a bill to avert a shutdown. friday. that spending bill is now in the senate, needs democratic votes to pass because it has that 60 vote threshold. will you vote for it? >> i'm leaning no. >> because this continuing resolution kicks the can down the road without a budget for

six months, ceding critical authority, in fact, creating a slush fund for donald trump and enabling him to slash research in nih on alzheimer's and cancer va benefits in the pack act and other health care. a variety of essential programs, including possibly medicaid and social security. that kind of abandoning of authority by the united states congress is abhorrent to me. at the same time, shutting down the government is horrific and will cause a great deal of pain to people. so i'm going to be talking to my colleagues over the. course of today, listening to others all around the country about what is best for the nation right now. >> senator richard blumenthal of connecticut, thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate your time. more ahead. from capitol hill. you heard senator blumenthal. can republicans convince a handful of democratic

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latest victim of the trump administration. slash and burn efforts. half of its staff will be slashed. about 1500 career employees. this is in addition to the roughly 600 people who accepted voluntary resignations or early retirement. education secretary linda mcmahon says these layoffs represent the department's, quote, commitment to efficiency and accountability. the first step on the road to shutting down the department. joining us now is brittany coleman, a civil rights attorney at the education department, who just got notice yesterday that she was being laid off. she's also national shop steward in the afge union. brittany, thank you for coming on with us. how did you learn you were losing your job and what was your reaction? >> thank you for having me. >> and this is. >> how i. >> learned i was losing my job was i got an. >> email earlier. >> yesterday saying that our offices. >> would be. >> suddenly closed, which was highly unusual. >> and it was already adding to the heightened chaos. >> and confusion that people are

experiencing. >> because of the. >> doge emails. >> that we were getting. >> every week. and the. >> resignation emails. >> so last night when i got home, i started getting text messages saying that other people got their notices from the agency, and then i just happened to check my email, and that's where i saw that i got one too. it was just a simple email where we were all blind copied, stating that we. were let go in the name of pushing the trump executive order for efficiency. >> are you angry? are you worried? how is this sitting with you? >> i am definitely angry because i don't understand why i and my. colleagues have been targeted for. >> just doing. >> our jobs. our jobs are protecting the american public and our nation's students. so it's. >> very frustrating. >> to not only have to endure the demeaning emails and ridicule that we're getting in the media, but to also have to lose your job when all. >> you were. >> doing was just following, you

know, the law and enforcing that, or providing statistics to help teachers do their jobs. >> in the public announcement of these cuts, part of the statement we got reads, the department of education will continue to deliver on all statutory programs that fall under the agency's purview, including formula funding, student loans, pell grants, funding for special needs students, and competitive grant making. brittany, what do you see as the impact here for students, teachers and families all around the country? >> well, i will tell you that i think the impact is, is that they're going to get the residuals of the chaos that we've been experiencing as employees. there is it's hard to believe that removing functions and removing the people who do those functions, such as making. >> sure that students. >> receive their services if they have special needs, or making sure that there is adequate documentation of those students. receiving those needs. how that would eliminate that

function is going to help the american public. it's just unclear to me how removing head start or removing title one funding through block grants, how any of that would be actually helpful in getting to the students who need it most. >> i'm not so sure it's clear that all that funding is being removed. there's a lot of questions that still need to be answered. here's what the education secretary, linda mcmahon, said about these cuts last night. >> so many of the programs are really excellent, and we need to make sure that that that money does get to the states, but we want more money to be able to go to the states. and that's what the president has said all along. if we get rid of the bureaucracy, the states will get more. it will go directly into. >> the states, block grants to. >> states. >> perhaps block grants without so many strings and red tape attached. >> to it. >> what's your response to that? >> well, my response is just to clarify. when i say remove removing it from the function under the department of education because they are talking about moving those to other agencies like health and

human services, which is also being gutted. when you talk about removing that funding from our agency, we are the experts and we know how to administer that. we know how to help states be able to target that funding to make sure that it gets to lower income areas, whether that be urban or rural areas. and it's and it's not clear that how that that would actually be helpful. what would be clear is that, you know, the process of moving that stuff is not going to assist states. it's actually going to hinder those efforts, because you're not going to have the federal oversight that we give in order to make sure that that is being administered and that people are not being discriminated against based on federal nondiscrimination laws. >> well, brittany, thank you so much for being with us, and i'm so sorry you are on the receiving end of these cuts. we appreciate you joining us and helping us understand the impact.

>> thank you. >> right now, all eyes are on the senate to avert a government shutdown. days from now, the fate of the bill that just passed the house is uncertain. in the senate, they need 60 votes. that means a handful of democrats would have to back the bill. if all gop senators vote yes. nbc sahil kapur is now joining us from capitol hill. sahil, senator blumenthal told us he's leaning no. will there be enough democratic votes? >> hey, ana. well, overall, the vibes in the senate are trending favorably for this bill. democrats in the senate do have the votes to block the bill if they really want to. but it doesn't look to me at this moment that they have the appetite to fight on this one right now. the first question is. are there at least eight. >> senate. >> democrats in favor of this bill? i say eight. because republicans have 53 votes, but it's likely to be 52 here on this bill, at most, because senator rand paul is a hard no. the second question is, do democrats consent to a speedy vote to get this done? because this is not going to happen by the friday midnight deadline unless democrats offer their

agreement to move this quickly? how are democrats specifically reacting? well, let's start with the fact that they didn't necessarily count on the house being able to pass this republican bill with the slim margins that they have, but they have reacted with with a mix of, you know, with a mix of takes to this bill. take a listen. >> i will vote for it, because that's about shutting down the government. and i refuse to ever vote or withhold my vote. that would all turn into shutting the government down. >> if they want to do. >> a. >> clean. >> cr for 30. >> days to keep negotiating, i'll vote for that. but this is this is not a cr. this is a republican. this is a republican budget. >> i just think we should be able to have a conversation about the constitutional way money. >> should. >> be spent. >> in this country. >> now. >> their concerns are that this is a republican bill that essentially cut democrats out of the negotiations, that it boosts some republican priorities like military spending and cuts, some democratic ones like non-defense

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>> even all the motions have been filed, the petitioner. >> said, we're going to file an amended. >> habeas petition tomorrow. so it's likely that. >> release is probably not in the cards today. >> i think a lot of people have been wondering since we learned more about this case, if he has a green card, how can he be held? are they alleging any crime here? >> they don't need to if they want to remove him. now, most criminal defense attorneys like me do deal with situations where. crimes make. aliens removable. but there is another section. >> of the immigration and. >> nationality act that is very rarely used. there's very little case law on it, but it allows if either the secretary of state or the attorney general determine the language is important, that there is reasonable ground, that there is a potential serious adverse foreign policy consequence, then the. alien can be removable. now what does that mean? who knows? now the government. >> has. >> the burden, but that appears to be a pretty light burden. and yes, he can raise these constitutional defenses. >> i'm being. discriminated against, or my first amendment.

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finish that process and be able to head home? >> well for the next couple of days, assuming everything goes well with the launch and they go off on time and they get there this evening, there'll be a few days of a handover, which means basically showing them the ropes. what's different since anne mcclain has been there before? one of the upcoming astronauts, one of the astronauts going up there, they're going to you know, they've already probably cleaned out their bedrooms. and in anticipation of, you know, hey, the guest room is ready for you now. but as far as when they come back, i think sunday's a pretty good bet. it gives them a few days. sunday is the earliest they would come back. typically they try to do things like this early unless. >> something comes. >> up with the weather. >> or there's something. >> going on operationally that delays that. of course that could happen, but it's either going to be sunday or maybe a couple of days after that, but within the week we should get them back on planet earth. >> i have been so amazed by the attitude that we've heard from these two astronauts when they've, you know, had interviews from up there at the space station. they were supposed to be there for a little over a week, and now we're talking all these months later, i don't know how they've

kept it together. you've been in touch with sonny. what have those conversations been like? >> well, my conversations with her has been a few emails back and forth. i think she's been very grateful for the extended time up there. she's got to do a couple of spacewalks. she's got a wonderful personality, just very. >> bubbly and. >> able to pivot to. to whatever is thrown her way. same for. >> butch. but i. >> think overall they're going to be happy when they get back. >> they've been gone for a while. >> and even if. >> that was. >> a planned. >> mission, you know, this was unplanned not to be be up there for that long. >> but even. >> so, being away from home for that long for anybody. >> you know. >> they're going to be grateful to be back and see their families again. >> can you tell us what the readjustment or reintegration process is going to be like for them? >> yeah. >> well, they've been up there for quite a while. they've exercised. >> every day, so they're going to be in good shape. but still their vestibular system, their balance is going to be a bit off for. >> a while. so it's going. >> to be a few days until that comes. >> back and is synced.

>> up again with the rest of their their senses. there's going to be a rehab period where they're going to be exercising, getting used to lifting weights and doing things the way you exercise on earth versus versus in space. there's going to be a lot of debriefs because people are going to want to know their story. i think in this case, there's going to be a lot of media events because people are going to want to hear from you and your colleagues, i'm sure are going to want to speak to them. so i think there's going to be a lot of that, a lot of busy. >> stuff going on. and then i think they'll get. >> a chance to take a vacation. >> oh, well, we wish them the very best. a safe travel home, that's for sure. mike massimino, thank you so much for joining us. look forward to talking to you again soon. on the other side, i feel like i'm in kind of the edge of space here today with this fun setup. thanks, p.j, our director, for doing it for us. that's going to do it for me today. thank you for joining us. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. >> good morning. 11 a.m. eastern, 8 a.m. p