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into a... reliably up-and-running cybersecuring... performance boosting... storm preparing... ...wifi backup is working... ...reliably-connected, modern business. powering the engine of modern business. comcast business >> good day. i'm chris jansing, live at msnbc headquarters. >> in new york city. embarrassing and unacceptable. >> democratic senators demand answers. >> about war plans inadvertently sent to a reporter. >> but trump officials who testified the. >> information wasn't classified also wouldn't answer. >> some of the questions about it in public. so where does.
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>> this story. >> go from here? plus. keeping secrets a full 11 days into the legal fight over deportation flights, the trump administration. >> is now claiming the information a judge wants is off limits. what we're hearing. >> from officials. >> and some. >> of the people. >> who are on board those planes, and dna data up. >> for sale. >> as the genetic testing company 23 and me shuts down. >> a treasure trove of personal. >> information is set to hit the market. what you need to do to keep your information safe. so much to get. to on this tuesday. but we. >> start at this hour with. >> an administration very much on defense, trying to find a consistent response to the stunning national security fiasco involving war plans inadvertently. shared with a journalist. the revelation turned a previously planned senate hearing fiery today as two of the national security officials who were involved struggled to explain what happened. listen to the ranking member of the senate
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intelligence committee, mark warner, trying to get clarity on whether dni tulsi gabbard was even on. that text chain. >> you were not tg on this group chat. >> i'm not going to get into. >> the specifics. >> are you refuse to acknowledge whether you were on this group chat? >> senator, i'm. >> not. >> going to. >> get into this. >> why are you why are you going to get into the specifics? is this is it because it's all classified? >> because this is currently under review by the national security? >> because it's all classified. if it's not classified, share the text. now, did you contact the defense secretary or others after this specific military planning was put out and say, hey, we should be doing this in a skiff? >> there was. >> no. >> classified material that was shared in that. >> so then if there are no classified material, share it with the committee. you can't have it both ways. these are important jobs. this is our national security. >> in fact. >> the. >> national security council has
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confirmed the message thread was authentic. and cia director john ratcliffe also testified today that the dni. >> tulsi gabbard. >> was on the thread just an hour after. she refused to respond. now. >> outside the committee room, much of the heat has been. >> directed at the national security advisor, mike waltz, who added atlantic editor in chief jeffrey goldberg to. >> the group. >> chat, and defense secretary pete. >> hegseth, who. >> revealed the information in a scathing column. the executive editor of the conservative national review called for hegseth to. >> be fired immediately. >> writing, quote. >> the whole. >> story is a tale so clownish, so stunning, so outlandish that it would seem to better fit into a gonzo satire of government ineptitude. but hegseth has been anything but apologetic. >> nobody was. texting war. >> plans. >> and that's all i have to say about that. >> so now the focus shifts to how the president will respond. nbc news has learned that
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president trump did speak with waltz on monday, and the president told our garrett hake exclusively this morning that he had, quote, learned a lesson and was a good man. i want to bring in nbc's ryan nobles covering capitol hill. senior nbc news correspondent courtney, qb covers national security and the pentagon ned price is a former state department and cia official. and with me here in studio, christopher o'leary, former fbi counterterrorism official and senior vice president for global operations at the soufan group. good to have all of you here, to say the least. ryan, this hearing was fiery. it was contentious. how would you sum up what we saw today? >> chris. >> i think it was very clear that democrats. >> feel that they have the receipts to back up their concerns and their complaints. >> about the way. >> that these government officials were conducting business on this signal. >> group chat. and what. >> you saw them do was basically set many of these officials up to. find out specifically, were they sharing classified information. >> if they. >> were sharing classified
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information, did. >> they. >> know they were. >> doing it on. >> a platform which is an open source platform of which many government officials use on private phones? and could that have meant that this information was compromised? and part of the reason that they asked such probing questions is because there stands to be the possibility that this entire text thread could come to light. >> jeffrey goldberg. >> the reporter. from the. atlantic who was on that text thread, still has all of this information. and so they were asking these very pointed questions, knowing that ultimately all the information may come out. take, for instance, this exchange with senator jon ossoff from georgia. >> director ratcliffe, this. >> was a. >> huge mistake. correct? >> no. >> a national. >> political. >> no. >> no. let me answer. no, no. director ratcliffe, i. >> say yes or no question. >> and now you. >> hold on. a national political reporter.
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>> you can. carry it how you want. >> was made privy. to sensitive information. about imminent military. >> operations against. >> a foreign terrorist organization. >> of adding a reporter. >> and that. wasn't a. >> huge mistake. >> that wasn't a. >> huge mistake. i think. >> they characterized it as embarrassment. this is. >> utterly unprofessional. >> there's been. >> no apology. there has. >> been no recognition. >> of the gravity. >> of this error. >> and by. >> the way, we. >> will get the. >> full transcript of this chain and your testimony. >> will be. >> measured carefully against its content. >> so you hear that your question. >> your answers will be measured carefully. against the content that they ultimately are able to collect. and, chris, you know, there are so many layers to this that you. >> saw senate democrats raise questions about. >> there is the incident itself, the. fact that this text chain existed. >> the fact that so cavalierly. >> a national political. reporter was added to the conversation. but then there's also the question of the use of signal across government platforms. how often is it used?
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how often is sensitive material distributed. >> on that platform? >> and then furthermore, what happens to the information that is. shared on signal? the whole purpose of signal is that it can be set for the information to dissolve and go away. is that in violation of the federal records act? there are all these questions that senate democrats want answers to. very few of them did they get those answers to during this session here today, chris. >> yeah. so, chris, both the white. >> house and secretary hegseth are now claiming there were no war plans that were texted, even though the nsc says the text chain is authentic. so i want to play what the reporter who had inadvertently got them, jeffrey goldberg, had to say about it. >> i saw headset's response yesterday. it was just unserious. obviously, this would by by the standard vernacular understanding of what war plan means. it was at 145. this is going to happen at 152. this is going to happen, then this happens, then that happens. and then we do this and then we do
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that. >> okay. so both tulsi gabbard and director ratcliffe tried to argue again, no classified information was exchanged. is this an argument over semantics? >> it is not. so i spent my entire career working counterterrorism with the intelligence community and with the special operations community. this behavior is inexcusable. there, you know, and so was there a judgment error? did they somehow have some. justification for. >> creating this. >> signal chat because they. >> were trying to overcome, you know, people being. >> separated for other reasons, perhaps, but it was. >> the wrong. >> thing to do. >> and i will tell you, a member of the intelligence community or the military, if they had done something similar, would be removed from their command. >> they. >> would be charged. >> they would lose their. security clearance. >> so the president saying he learned a lesson is not what would happen. >> no, it would not. and you know. a you know, mike. >> wallace knows this more than anybody. >> coming from. >> the special operations community. >> he knows.
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>> what the requirements are. and although. >> they might not. >> have had the. >> granular detail in this text. >> chat, just the acknowledgment. >> of the. >> operation and the timing and everything else. >> you do. >> not do that because people get hurt. >> or. >> operations fail because of that. >> the bigger concern for. >> me is minimizing this. and normalizing this. >> because what you're. >> saying as a leader that this is. acceptable behavior. >> so for every intelligence community, professional, well, it's okay for you to engage in this too, for the forklift driver. >> who is loading. >> a. pallet on a c-17 down. >> at fort bragg. >> or somewhere else, it's okay to. >> do that. it's not okay to do that because this is how things leak and this is how people get hurt. >> courtney, what more do we know about the nature of the leak? and what's the reaction inside the intel community? >> yeah. so i think what we need to do is parse out some of these, these denials, specifically the one that we heard from secretary of defense pete hegseth last night. it was a very brief discussion he had with a small group of reporters when he landed in hawaii for
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this trip. and he specifically said that there were no military plans or war plans. now, in military parlance, that actually means a little bit something different than just to civilians like you and i. chris, an operational plan, a war plan, and oh, plan is generally seen by the military as, as a comprehensive plan for a war. so think about something like china. it begins a war with the united states. where would all of the targets be? what sort of assets would be used? it's a much more comprehensive plan, and that may be the nuance that we're hearing here. we also heard it from caroline leavitt. she put something on social media earlier today in which she also followed secretary hegseth lead by by denigrating the reporter here. jeffrey goldberg, a well-known editor for the atlantic, saying that he's a well known for his sensationalist spin. and she said here that no war plans were discussed and no classified material. to be fair. >> courtney, let's let's.
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>> say, for example, the administration has repeatedly said that what's happening on immigration is why they're invoking war powers. right? because that is a war. they consider that a war. is this not part of the what they would consider to be the war on extremism? war on, you know, any kind of national security threat? yes. >> and here's two more things about that, chris, because you're absolutely right there. number one, military plans are by nature classified. it doesn't matter. it's not a big war plan. with the houthis, military operational plans are classified to protect the service members who are directly involved in those, in this case, with the houthis. last weekend, there were manned aircraft involved that would put those pilots potentially in direct danger if the houthis or any adversary found out where and when they were going to be targeting actual locations on the ground in yemen. but it's not just that
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that would be there's no question that would be classified if, in fact, secretary hegseth did put a number of different pieces of information, frankly, what if every one of those pieces of information by themselves was not classified in the aggregate? that information can become classified because it could then become part of an operational mission or a plan. we see that here frequently. one piece of information that's releasable, all the information put together becomes classified. and that's the sort of nuance that we're just not getting in the answers from these administration officials at this point. chris. >> so, ned, i want to play. >> a part of what david french. he's a former military lawyer, iraq war veteran and new york times columnist said on this network today. >> when i was a jag officer, i investigated leaks or spillages of classified information. i saw careers of officers destroyed instantly for behavior that was a fraction as irresponsible as this, it really is a key moment.
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i think it is a key moment that says to the trump administration or the trump administration looks to america and tells us, do they have any standards at all other than loyalty to donald trump? >> that's exactly what chris. >> was. >> just referencing. ned, what do you make of accountability or lack thereof? >> well, chris, it's very simple. there should and there must be accountability. and i say that because what we're talking about here is a convening of the principals committee. the principals committee is really the apex of the national security decision making process, the forum in which the most consequential, the most complex, and, yes, the most sensitive issues of our national security to include war and peace. like this one here are deliberated and ultimately decided. chris, we're hearing from the administration this notion that, oh, this is just a simple issue of somebody fat fingering in the wrong number, that that is not the original
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sin here. there are multiple compounding sins here. and sure, that may be one of them. the original sin here was holding this conversation over a commercial application signal outside of the situation room, not on a top secret code word special access basis, but on an unclassified basis. and pretending like that is an appropriate thing to do. you know, chris, i sat in on every single. >> sitting in your car in a parking lot of a grocery store and having this going on, talking about a military strike. is that what. >> you're. >> suggesting. >> that i you were you were you read my mind, chris. i sat in on every single one of the principals committee's principal committee meetings during my last job in the administration, and speaking to colleagues who were there with me. heads are exploding, and for very good reason that the people at the top of our national security environment could be this boneheaded. chris, one last point here. the people who are
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supposed to be protecting our national security were absolutely derelict in this instance, and presumably every other signal chat that they may have started. they have a signal chat ona, china and iran. the only responsible person in that signal chat was the guy who wasn't supposed to be here, be there. and that was jeffrey goldberg. and i say that in two respects. one, he didn't print what sounds to be the most sensitive details that were shared inappropriately over that signal chat. and two, by exposing this practice, jeffrey goldberg may have done more than all of those people combined to protect our national security if it prevents them from doing this again, there are no higher value intelligence targets the world over than the vice president, the secretary of state, the secretary of defense, the cia director, the dni, and the list goes on. and if jeffrey goldberg and his reporting are going to prevent them from doing this again, that is a very good thing for our national security. >> well, and what he got for his thoughtful decisions was to be called some very unpleasant things by members of the
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administration. chris, obviously, and you mentioned it, the reason that there are laws in place, the reason that jag officers prosecute is because lives are on the line. american lives are on the line when things get into hands. so let me ask you, what could be the ripple effect internationally? and i mean that on two fronts. relationships with countries that share intelligence with us. will they start to wonder, is it safe but also bad actors who want nothing more than to get this kind of information? >> yeah, i think those. are two great. >> points to make. >> and the two. >> buckets are close allies. >> and this. >> today's hearing was supposed to be talking about the complexity of the threats around the world, many of which we need to partner. >> with close allies. >> to defeat counterterrorism. >> being one of them, but great. >> power competition against russia. china and. >> other near-peer adversaries like. iran and the axis of resistance. >> so we need partnerships. they
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will not. trust us for. >> a variety of reasons. but now, because. >> we can't. >> safeguard classified information. >> that's problematic. on the foreign counterintelligence. >> threat, adversaries like. >> russia and china, you know, are capable of collecting this information. so whether it's on an operation or an upcoming negotiation, they will be privy to information if it's shared. >> so loosely. >> as will some of our other allies. >> that also seek. >> to gather information before going into negotiations. >> with us. >> so it's. this lackadaisical approach. >> to security. >> all of this should have been done. this pc should have been done. >> in person or. >> at the very. least on security system, top. >> secret systems and dialing into the white house situation room. >> christopher o'leary. >> i appreciate you coming in on such an important day. always. ned price, courtney cube, appreciate you as well. thank
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you so much. coming up in 90s, what are democrats planning to do to try and hold the administration accountable? democratic virginia congressman eugene vindman joins us right eugene vindman joins us right after this. the darkness of bipolar depression made me feel like life was moving on without me. then i found a chance to let in the lyte. discover caplyta. unlike some medicines that only treat bipolar i, caplyta is proven to deliver significant symptom relief from both bipolar i and ii depression. and in clinical trials, movement disorders and weight gain were not common. elderly dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke. caplyta is not approved for dementia-related psychosis. call your doctor about new or sudden mood changes, behaviors, or suicidal thoughts right away. antidepressants may increase these risks. report fever, confusion, stiff muscles, which may be life-threatening, or uncontrolled muscle movements, which may be permanent. high cholesterol and weight gain may occur, as can high blood sugar, which may be fatal. common side effects are sleepiness, dizziness, nausea, and dry mouth.
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here's more from today's hearing. on capitol hill. >> it not only violated all procedures, but if this information had gotten out, american lives could have been lost. obviously reckless. >> obviously dangerous. both the mishandling. >> of classified information and the deliberate destruction. >> of federal. >> records or potential crimes. >> that. >> ought to be. investigated immediately. this sloppiness. >> this incompetence, this. >> disrespect for our intelligence agencies and the personnel who work for. him is entirely unacceptable. it's an embarrassment. >> joining me now, virginia democratic congressman eugene vindman, a member of the house armed services committee. i thank you for being on the program. what do you think should happen now with these messages? and do you think that what was argued today? well, they're classified. what they
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said that they weren't classified. that was their argument. so does that argue for their release? >> look. >> chris, operational security is a basic but critical function. and here we're talking about the senior most officials. this is a principals committee meeting which i sat in on at the white house national security council during the first trump administration, the most secret, the most sensitive information, extremely damaging to us national security is discussed and decisions, life and death decisions are made at these at these types of meetings. and this was held on a civilian system that absolutely should never have even come close to a principals committee meeting. i'm calling for the release of the information on the signal chat. there is no way. i served 25 years in the army. i served at the white house. there is no way when you're talking about targeting data, inbound systems,
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american aircraft that are are going to be conducting an attack, that there are people at the end of these operations that this information was was not secret or top secret. that's just not possible. so that's i don't. >> believe that. >> but if we take what the administration is saying is true, then release it. the president has previously released this type of information in the past. he has an opportunity to be transparent with the american people, be transparent, release the information, and then we can see what's true, what's not. >> well. tim miller. >> of the bulwark. >> literally just. >> asked atlantic editor in chief jeffrey goldberg about whether he will release the texts. here's what he said. >> my obligation, i feel, is to the idea that we take national security information seriously. and maybe there's and maybe, maybe in the coming days, i'll, i'll, i'll be able to let you know that. okay. i have a i have a plan to, to have this material
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vetted publicly. but i'm not going to say that now because there's a lot of conversations that have to happen about that. >> yeah. >> i'm curious about what you think the conversation should be, what you think about his national security concerns and how you weigh whether these texts should be released. >> well, look, these are these are valid concerns. i believe that these are highly classified conversations that certainly the war plans. i, i can imagine what these documents are, having seen what they look like at the national security council, their their operational plans, and that they are classified. the administration is saying they're not classified in a really odd way. they're providing, frankly, top cover to mr. goldberg to release them. but the short answer is this i and my colleague pat ryan, another veteran, are calling for the release of these documents. one of the first things you do, and i've got experience from being a former judge advocate in the in the army investigating criminal and administrative actions is
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you need to figure out what the extent of the spillage the leak is in this case. and you do that by conducting a thorough investigation, which is what the congress is intended to do. that's accountability and figuring out. is this the only principles committee that was held on signal? was there russia principles committee? was there another one? i mean, it's outrageous. it's basic operational security. it didn't happen in this case. american lives were put at risk. and i take this very seriously. >> senator mark warner, senator ron wyden are both calling on pete hegseth and mike wallace to resign. do you think they should? >> well, look, i would prefer to do the investigation ahead of time to figure out exactly what happened. this is something that requires a measured approach. i have serious concerns about what i've seen so far in the public realm. but, you know, i've been trained and certainly as a
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>> the trump. >> administration is now invoking the state secrets privilege in a growing legal battle with a judge. he's demanding answers about deportation flights and whether they violated his orders. so in its filing, the justice department pushed back, writing, the court has all of the facts it needs. i want to bring in nbc's gary grumbach, who has been following this for us. also joining us, former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance. joyce, is it the judge who gets to decide whether the court has the facts it needs? or does the trump administration invoking state secrets, mean they decide? well. >> it depends on who you're listening to at this point, because the gun is in their hands. and once they invoke. state secrets, that's the end of the inquiry. but it may not be that easy. the state secrets privilege. it's a common law doctrine. it's something that's been developed in the courts. >> the supreme.
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>> court has put its imprimatur on it. and in essence, it says that in. civil litigation, the government doesn't have to turn over sensitive national security information to private litigants. that, of course, is not what's at stake here. this is a judge trying to decide whether the government failed to comply with one of his orders, a very different situation. so i suspect we're in for a fight in the courts to decide whether or not the privilege even applies in a situation like this one. >> now, also in this case, gary, we have sworn declarations from people who were actually on board the deportation flights. it includes a venezuelan woman who says she overheard discussions by government officials. what did she hear? >> yeah. these declarations were submitted by the plaintiffs. >> in this. >> case. >> the aclu. and they really speak. >> to the mistakes. >> and. >> the. >> oversights that. >> were made in the. >> rush to get these folks. >> from the u.s. to el salvador. one of them, as you mentioned, is from this venezuelan woman who says she overheard u.s. government officials talking
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about james boasberg order on march 15th. she says, quote, within a couple of minutes of takeoff, i heard two u.s. government officials talking and they said, quote, there is an order saying we can't take off, but we. >> already have. now. >> of course, this is a reference to boasberg order to turn those planes around back to the u.s. of course, that is something that did not happen. the woman that wrote this declaration wrote a couple other things in this declaration i think are important to point out as well. the reason she's able to write this at all. is because she's one of eight women that are back in the u.s, and that's because the el salvadoran president, once they got on the ground there, realized there were eight women on women on board, and he would not allow them into his jails, into his prisons there in el salvador. >> chris. >> so, so, joyce. could declarations like this be used in court? yeah, they absolutely can. >> that's why they've been submitted. and you never want to overread these sorts of declarations. they're subject to being tested in court, particularly when there's a potential language barrier. but
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one interpretation of these documents is that people were hustled onto these planes and they took off quickly, and that that was done in an effort to avoid the judge's order. so this is certainly information that the judge can take into account when he decides whether or not the government failed to obey his orders. the real question that comes from that, and where this is all headed is what are the consequences? if the judge in fact finds that the government was in contempt? yeah. >> and joyce, the trump administration is doubling down. i want to play what we heard from both the border czar tom homan and attorney general pam bondi on fox news. >> i mean, bottom line. >> is we. >> follow the statute of the iaea and. >> we're going to. >> continue to. arrest public safety threats. now. >> we may. >> be holding on more arrests. >> on the. >> removals on the alien enemies act, but it's not going to stop us to keep arresting tda members, take them off. >> the street. >> and it's the alien enemies act that is a very. well established. it's an old law,
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but. >> a very. >> good law. >> and. >> you know, we're. >> under modern. >> day warfare now with these terrorists. >> in our country. >> and we. >> had every right president trump had every right to ship these terrorists out of. >> our country. >> so can the administration keep citing wartime law? well, this. >> is what the case in front of the court is about, whether or not the government properly invoked the alien enemies act. and that's now for the courts to decide. pam bondi can continue to repeat the arguments she's making in court on television, but the judge and not the american public will make the decision about whether she's correct. but what the government can continue to do, and i think it's important to note they can arrest and prosecute people who violate the laws of the united states. they can deport people who have deportation orders. nothing in this ongoing lawsuit prevents the government from continuing to do the incredibly
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important work of protecting the american people from criminals. the lawsuit is about whether or not the government is correct when it says it can use the alien enemies act, which is meant for wartime. in a situation where war has not been declared. and that's an important legal dispute for the courts to resolve. >> joyce vance, gary grumbach, thank you both. still ahead, greenland hits back, delivering a pointed not so to president trump's claims that u.s. officials were invited there. you're watching chris jansing reports only on msnbc. >> life doesn't come with an owner's manual. freedom is getting to write your own. so get 10% off a jeep wrangler or get into a jeep grand cherokee with freedom is on road or off, where it's a front row seat to the city, or a second row seat, maybe even a third. life doesn't come with an owner's manual, so get out there and write your own. right now, during the jeep
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now says that ukraine and russia have agreed to a cease fire covering the black sea and energy infrastructure, but there are conflicting statements on the details coming out of kyiv and moscow. nbc's daniele hamamdjian joins us now. help us to understand what has been agreed to after those us led talks in saudi arabia. yeah, chris. >> the. russian foreign minister. >> sergey lavrov. >> had previously said a new deal on the black sea was. >> possible. >> but that it would come. >> with strict conditions. among russia's concerns that. >> ukraine would use empty. >> ships to deliver weapons. >> what do the russians say international markets for its agricultural products. you'll remember that back in 2022, when the war started, sanctions were
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imposed, market access was denied. and so the u.s. is now saying it will help free up markets for russia. moscow also saying, however, the agreement will only go into effect when sanctions are lifted on some of its banks. ukraine, which is also on board, says that any russian vessel moving beyond the eastern black sea will be considered a violation of this deal. on the surface, this appears to be, if i can put it this way, the grain deal 2.0. that deal, struck back in 2022, allowed ukraine to export its grain in exchange for the lifting of restrictions on some russian exports. but that deal fell apart in 2023. so it's a restoration of this agreement, chris, with a few tweaks, both sides have also agreed to, quote, develop measures to halt strikes on each other's energy facilities. it's a very convoluted way to say we're not there yet. we're going to keep talking until we come up with a plan. big picture here. it
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doesn't change a whole lot on the battlefield. it's not the full cease fire trump wanted, but trump can claim a win here. >> chris daniele hamamdjian, thank you for deconstructing that for us. much appreciated. well, meantime, greenland is not happy categorically disputing president trump's claim that u.s. officials were invited to visit the country this week. in a statement, greenland's government said it has not extended any invitations for any visits, neither private nor official. an american delegation that includes second lady usha vance and national security advisor mike waltz is expected to land in the danish territory on thursday, a visit that the outgoing prime minister called part of a very aggressive effort by the u.s. to annex the island, something they say will never happen. nbc's vaughn hillyard is live in washington. tell us more about this visit and how it's being received in greenland. >> right. the denmark government and the government entity in
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greenland have said that the u.s. delegation was not invited, that this is going to be a trip by michael waltz, as well as energy secretary chris wright and second lady usha vance, where they're going to be stopping it. pituffik space base, which we should be clear, is an american us military installation. and the us and greenland, denmark already have a nearly 75 year joint defense agreement where if there were to be an attack, the us would have the right to work with greenland in order to defend the arctic region there. but this has been made clear by president trump earlier this month that he believed that the us would take over greenland. and in part, we have the understanding that there is obvious minerals or rare earth minerals that the us has placed great value on, and there are billions of barrels of oil that the us geological survey has said exists on greenland. yet greenland has
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made the conscious decision to not drill and extract any oil and gas from its land. but this, for the us is a notable, you could say, provocation here. and that is the way that individuals and the government in greenland are seeing this, that, in the words of the current prime minister, that this is not a, quote, harmless visit by the second lady or the sending of the national security advisor. and this is where we are going to see them not only visit the air base, but then the second lady is going to be heading to greenland's annual sled dog race along with her son here. this is a really going to be a moment here to see and have a greater understanding of exactly what the us could potentially try to do, not only at the air base installation, but upon visiting nuuk, the capital of greenland, as part of this trip as well. whether there is an acknowledgment of any explicit intentional plans here,
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nearly 10 million raised by his democratic opponent. i want to bring in nbc's melanie zanona on capitol hill. it does seem like this is a safe seat for republicans, but how frustrated are they that they now will have to sink money into this race? >> yeah, chris, there is a lot of grumbling behind the scenes. i did some reporting on this with my colleagues, matt dixon and bridget bowman, and what we found is that gop leaders are frustrated that they even have to intervene in a district that donald trump won by 30 points. they feel like the candidate, randy fine, hasn't been really taking this campaign very seriously. he hasn't been fundraising very hard, and he didn't even go up on air with his first tv ad until last week. now, there has been an 11th hour push to try to resuscitate his campaign. i'm told that gop leaders have been calling donors. randy fine has also been making personal pleas for a quick infusion of cash, and even president donald trump reiterated his support for the candidate on social media. so gop leadership does feel confident that ultimately, randy
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fine will win. but they are still clearly very annoyed behind the scenes. i want to read for you what nrcc chairman richard hudson told us. he said, i would have preferred if our candidate had raised money at a faster rate and gotten on tv quicker, but he's doing what he needs to do. he's on tv now. we're going to win the seat. i'm not concerned at all, but clearly there is some very serious expectation setting going on among the leadership. even florida governor ron desantis said today that he believes the candidate is going to underperform, which no doubt is only going to fuel the democratic narrative that they have the momentum right now. chris. >> all right. melanie zanona, thank you for that. a major alert for millions of americans who sent dna samples to 23 and me to learn about their family history. they're now being urged to delete that data after the company filed for bankruptcy, raising concerns over how that sensitive information will be handled and preserved going forward. nbc's brian chung is here in the studio with me. so let's start with the basics how
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customers can protect their data. >> yeah, and this is an iconic brand that has a lot of sensitive personal information. when you think about information about your family history and they actually have, in some cases, the physical samples of the saliva that you had to submit to do the test in the first place. so now that forever or sorry, forever 21, 23 and me is filing for bankruptcy. i know. yeah, yeah, there's a lot of ages in there. but when it comes to 23 and me, they're filing for bankruptcy, that doesn't mean that the company is going to go away. you can still buy a kit and actually do testing. but the question is who's going to buy them? is it going to be an individual or it's going to be some sort of company? either way, whoever buys them out of bankruptcy will have the keys to what could be millions of americans worth of very, very personal data. which raises the question should you delete your data? well, in the case of the california ag, rob bonta that he's suggesting, yeah, you should. so here's how you can do it if you are concerned about your privacy. first off, go into your settings. after you log into your 23 me account, click on 23 andme data and then there'll be a button that says delete your
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data. from that point in time. this is very important, chris. you're going to have to go to your email where you'll get a notification that says confirm you want to delete it. you have to go through that email process to confirm that you want to permanently delete your data. and that should be able to scrub your information from 23 andme. >> so it seemed like for a while everybody was getting on 23. and me, i mean, they were worth billions. how did it come to this? >> yeah. well, and they even went public on wall street through an ipo. this was a company that kind of made their name off of those tests to trace back your ancestry, but what they offered as a bullish vision for their future financially was to get into drugs. essentially, what they wanted to do was use those same types of tests to figure out, are you maybe genetically predisposed to certain types of diseases or even cancers, in which case they would then try to develop drugs to help you manage those types of diseases? now that's a very expensive thing to do and never came to pass. this is a company that has existed for a while. they never turned a profit in any financial fiscal year. that's the reason why they're filing for bankruptcy. if you can't turn a profit, that's
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you on this second hour of chris jansing reports at this hour. the signal this sends how some top members of donald trump's administration are reacting to questions about worldwide threats. just one day after the president's national security team revealed war plans in a group chat that accidentally included the editor in chief of atlantic magazine. plus, a message from the top. what president trump told nbc news exclusively about his defense team sharing those plans. also, any minute now, a hearing is set to begin for detained columbia university graduate student mahmoud khalil and seven other students. they're attempting to keep the university from handing over their private disciplinary records to members of congress. and moments after his release today, the shocking new details we're hearing from the oscar winning palestinian director, who was allegedly attacked before being detained at an israeli army base. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments, and we want to start wat

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