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new this rning on msn sunday, breaking news. a deadly collision at disney world. two monorails ash. 'll have the details. plus another breaki story. a pedestrianbridge collapses following a fireworks show. yoll hear from eyewitnesss. sarah palin's message on facebook abouter decision to stepown as alka governor but did sh answer questions about why she is resiing? and later, maybe there's no such thing as aree lunch but whatbout fe movies? we'll ll you about some other ways to have fun this summ without opening your wallet. a very good morning, eryone i'm alex witt. welcome to mbc sunday. we'll have a live rert on the investigation into the welfare of michael jackson's children. that's all coming up. > but first let'set to the breaking news 're following out of northern indiana where a fourth of july fireworks celebration turned tragic. least 26 people were iured when a pedtrian bridge collapsed park in the town of merriville. it's about 75 miles or so southeast of chcago. thatridge was crowded with about 100 peoplo had
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gathered at the prkrko watch a fireworkss didilalay. ththose ivovolv describebeuuit chaotic scene.e. >> weeee just walking on the bridge. >> we went in theiddle of the bridge and it j ju llllsed. >itit kept iningack and ff. xtxt tng you kkno it was a loud noisis everybodody ararted crming. everybybody ntntown and we wawa in the watat.. >> joinininge on the ppho, a reporter for wbbm-78780 radio. another goodororng to you.. let's s t t an pdate. dodoouou kw how many people ar still in t theosospil? > no, at this pointnte'e've got an nfirmation. wewe jusust g got off the p phe merrillvillele picice o hope to have new informamation i ithe nt half-hououoror about this siatatio what we knkn, , the are no lifi threatatining injuries, nobody s killed ass result ofthis. just l l of, imimage, bruises and brokokenbones. sayingng the w w about 100 ople who fell i intththe water who had to berescued. >>bobo 26 people injurered, 16 we taken to the hospital.. set the scscenfofor . whwhat exactly hapappene here? >> a accding to - spoke to a
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ross townsnship trtruee. erere re thousands ofeoeopl inthis g gated park watching a reworks dispy.y. they weree wkikingver this 90-foooot ododen bridgee that aprerent is not t on u useby foot t tfffficbut also by c cars wellll in some of ththe eyewitness reports the, people hearaa snsnapnd this b brge goes o ove the water and ababtt 100 pelele fell i i there. there were a t tf rescue cws t t the trying toet these pele out. ititlly there were reportsts o at least 11 peoplethth were unacacununtefor. i i oke to tsrurust ear this morningng w s sai that tha was not the cacae. thereeere no peopleunaccounted for. >> how about theescue operatatnsns? because y you'd ink y'd'd have plenty on s sce g gin that it was a firerkrk didispy, you think you'd haveve a a least fifireghghte and emergency crews justinin case sometethi went wrong. >> a absolelel butt dedendnds where they wrere positioned. dot know the exact location. publisished popos are saying that they hahadd tuble because f all the vehehicss the area gegettintoto where t thee peopl
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hahad fallen ininto t war.r. >> what was the weatheher like? >> the weather wawa ray y l day yesterday buttasast night itt a cleared upup so tatatould be reonon eugh to attract the thousands of people ououhere to thefifirerks which rere i'm sure just trific. >>okok.. ry frances, thhan you for giving us thelatest. we'll speak wiwith y when y geget re from the hospital on dates of people injured. >>momo brereakg g ne from orlando this hour.r. one person dead a afr two norails collide a adisney woworlininrlando overnight. diey's now ututti down morarailervice in order investigigate ee incididen we are learning in the ltt hour it was theopoperor of onene o o the trainsnsho dieded ithe collision. nonene ee is seriouslyy hurt. that collision ppened at apapprimimaty 2:00 a.. e eaern time at didisn's epcott ticket andd transporortition center wh pepele catch thehe m mororai tot to the magicic kingdom frr t th parkrking t.t. disney is now releasing a statement saying we mouountnt l ofururfefell cast mber. ouour arts go outo his family and those whoho ve lost a friend and coco-wkeker. we are working with law enrcrcemt t to determine whwhat
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happened. we will be m motoring that situation whenne get more info, will bring it to you. >> politics n,, the prprididens newest trip overseas, a flflhtht t russia toghght. among his s gos,s, mendndin relations s thth mcow, relatiois the presidenensasaid wornene unundeththe evious administration. another good mornrng,g, mikike. i kw the presesenent has g got s work cut out foror h, , prsing the e rerese tttt, as hesaid. right? y y mentioned t the prereouous adadmistration. w waseorge w. bush who fausly that said he lkeke in vladimir putin's eyes dd sasaw in h h soul. burelations between thehe united steses a russiannhat prioio administration not a all ey could be. so y,, theobobam administratioio trngngo press the reset buttoto but inn very ovovocive conversasationhahathe president hahad th the associatedd pssss just a aewew d days go, he s sd vlimimirutin is no l lger t the president, is nowhe prime nister but ststllery influential in usussi putin still has a foot in the old ways of doing business, ose cold war ways o of doing
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busineness but the presidenenisis going to sit down withh putin's ha-p-picd succecessor,, dimitri toto medvedev. theyl l lk about a missile fense system in easternn europepe. all of these t tngngs have russ upupse they'll bee on the fro rner during this susuitit. the prpresidtt is gooinggto mak one of hisis speeches dictly t thruruian people on the model ofhat he did inprague, ofof what he did in iro, about h visionon forow u.s.-russia relations shohoul proceed in the future, alex. >> me,e, mny thanksks for aat. > lelet go nowoo aska's soon-to-be ex-governor saarah palinnd what she says she willll do next. she'ssing febook to d w his about her next move. e e ites my family and i determined after ayerful nsnsidation that sacrificing my title h hel asaskaost and am now lookokin aheadndnd how e can advdvan this cououryry togegetherititour vues of less government intervention, greater
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energy independence, strgeger nanatial security and m mu needed fiscal straint. earlrlier dadai a ask nbc n nss chief f feign afafair corresesndnden andrea mitchell what the future holdld f for pa. >> i it c cerin that she's going to be very accti on the speaeakingiririt and at is a crative position to tatak shs writing a book aas a ve b b bookk dl. e e is a star among social consnservaveve in the republica party. bubuthe whololequestion of elective offffe e is -- higher electivevefffficis a very bibig issue w because eveven her supporters in nanaononal republican circles s say that t way shee qitit before the e en her term, a year a a a half fore the e end of her trm withthtt finishing or resolvlvg her difficultities wththhe gislature here in alaska is nott gooood, tat her f farewl l statement t orerertatement of resignatioion ss raambli a a she haeven, as you p point out, trtrd d toreframe itner facebook postingng yesterday beususshe wants to pretty m muc
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contntrolhe message a and thewa shdedevered it whenhehe announced d the resignation o o friday, it was not t thatt effective. >>hahat'nbc's anea mitchell rerertrting from anchorage, alaska. i'm ined live from washington by a.b. sddddd with "the hhl"l" newspepe good mororni tyou. >> good mornining, alex. >> what do yoyo m mak of sah h palin'n'resignatation? > wewe,, i think frrid w one chapter and sturday was another.r. i mean at her s speh she s see a bittervous and she was trying to give her explananationor why she needed too step wn, not waste anymore o alaskska' time anmoney. spe glowingly the lieutenant gogornrnorho will take over for her. she tried toaint a veryry rosy picture ofhyhy she cameme t thi decision and whahatilill come of it. then of couour she spent t weekend,d, thee oliday, defendi her choice on these cici networkiki s sit and talking ououhow, of corse, others have beenllowed t quit
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mimiststre for ahihier calling but of cocour, the natationall media's beatingp oner oee agagaiand shsh's being criticiciz.. her foes are not in the national media. she e hassepepubcans like her on senator,r, eisisa markowsk i sa she's disappointinin i g gvever pan n r abandonining her cocotitituts. republicicans e e t t rececd,da toaide stillll very close to hn mccain disparaging comments out this cision and h politicaca viability going forwrwar h appalal as you dd i tatalk about on friday, al,, is atat she's an executive,e, ttt she e ss a governor andnd 2 1/2 yes s in that job to q quit o oa not-so-sucuccefuful wait tenure so far doesn't giveve her aototf rememeeft going forward if she
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wants to seekk hghgherofoffi. if she j jus w wts to make a a of money with aoooo deal, mamae a tv deal d lots of speecheses to frienendly crowds,shshe' mak a nice livingndnd she'll putut this c cptpter of heherife bebei her. but when she talksababt her higher c clilingnd joining together t to better america, it sounds like shehe has political ambitions fofo thettur >> but s sahah pin crritizizin the medidi i wantnt to readaa eet i gotfrfr one observrvatnn which wwris, "howanan sah palin n mpmpla about press coverage after seeininguch an ambiguouss mesesgege. sarah palin hahad thchchce to seset e toneut failed to." ich i'moioing to rtrtr expound which leadadththeest of us to spululatandwonder. wh y y speculate e anhihingan be brorohtht p. i i agree. sarah palin didn't't comouou to us onrrid in herr backyardd wi her microphohonendnd s "i'm'm wawaing away f fomom liliti, it is heaeartle,, it's harmed my family, my amamy's more important t m me hanlaska or potics. i'i'm no seeking the nominanaon for myaart in 202012 or a any
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ototheyear." she d did not walk away from liliti i i that eeee. that's'shyhy of coursese she's feeling s scuculaon and she knows that she is. she likes to stayn the splight, that's why youou saw herending out tweets and fabookeesses 2424 hrsrs later. i exexctct tte'e' be h heangng more froro her. >> okay. >>n n th days and weeks to come. >> a.b. stddddar see you next hourur. thank you so much.h. coming up, more on the motiveve behd d rah palin's decision to step down laterr ths nth as alaaagovernor. eweweek's" eleanoror clift will here later thishour. >> brand-new detetails on the shocking death of formrmfl ququarteacacsteve mccnanai 36-year-old mcnairir, a formeme tennesese e titan, was f foun h to death alongside a 20-year-old woman in hisis nashvhville cond saturday. rit t w police are not talking abt the nature of mcnair's lationship with this w wanan saying onlnly th s s was a "frid"d"fmcmcnair. we are noww ararni that thewowo were togetether ststwo days before theheheetgs and the two apappantly knew each otheherrom aesestaant where shsh was a
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itress and where m mcnair's family often dine > > were also l leaing police are tt looking for any suects. at thihis point they arren sayig who t they believe iss to blamer the double murder. police say mnair'sii chchel was distrauautthen shshe heard the news. >> exaxamititionf the bodies shows thatatcncnai was h hit multleleimes,including a gunshot wounund totohehe head an examination n ofhehe woman's body sowow that sheuustned one gshot wound totohehe hd anand pistol w found nee her body. >> mcnana was perhaps m mos faus for leing the tennnnesee tinsnsdrive that came a ydd short ofof forcing oveeimim in e 2000 supuperoowl it was a petty e excitgg game. new this momorng, a major developmeneninin t investigation suououing the death of chchl jackson.n. access hollywood reporting t t children havave bememe the focu by t los angeles cnty departrtme o of ildren and fafami services.
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wewe'rgoing live rightowow to los angeles,nbcbc michelle -s-si kokosikiki. can you telllls s abt the investstigatn n at now involves jason's three young chldldn? what's t the latest onnthat? >> hi, alex. accordrdintoto ts repopo,, quoting law enforcemenen source, the department of c cldldre and mimi does want to lok into thth welfare of mhael jackson's kids. t only the potetentll tt they werexposed to drug u at h his home whenhhey were wi him they w wan to talk toto them ab ththatbut also what k knd of situation they're inin now,if they're happy y dd healthy andn doing alall right,, living with michael jackson's mothther at te family mpound. she has temporary ctody and is going for permanentnt c custout eieir biolologicamomoer has also said that she may d that as well. e dcfsnnveigation is just papa of that anddwill help t t judge e decihat is besestor those children. because no maer how manyy people say th want custody, and even no mteter at michael jajackn said in hisis will thate wawas s hi mother to hee cucusty, it will be the judge at will d deci basedd o what
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is right for the children. wee e en similar aspects of e e vestigation in other cases, too. i know wewe keep going back t t na nicolelemimith case, t more anan m more there a a justst ststngely similar pallels in osos cases. there was a a department o of chchdrdrennd family investigation,n,to into howow anna nicole smith's daugugererws dodoing ililthe custodydy battl was going . alex? >>iciclle kosinski there i downwnto l l.a thank yoyou. alalso w this rning, thth "losos angesesimes" reporting th investigators are focucusing on at leeasfive doctors who prcribed drugs to michael jackson. auththorits s ve removed drdrug and otherededic evidence from m the holmbmb hll mansion wrere jajackn collapsed. theyey're yiyi to determrmin whether the medications were properly prerescbebed andwhethe ththey playeany kind of ro in theop icon's deat one source tellinge"l. times" som prescriptions were made out to jackson aliases. some of the drugs had no prescription labels on the bottles. investigators are tryin deteinhow jackson got the drugs. a cot hearing is scheduled
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tomorrow morning in los angeles to deal with who will ta temporary controof michael jackson's estate. > keep it right here or special live corage of michael jackson's memorial service al day tuesda on msnbc. still ahead, the newtrouble for the former mar of washington, d.c. we'll tell you what happened to rion barry. the bigwinners thisoliday weekend at the boxffice and the up-and-coming competition. plus aok at the brightest and the best four of july fireworks from aroun the country. thiss washington, d.c.'s celebration. keept right re onbc sunday. ddddddddddddd
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charged for stalkining woman. police say the form mmoror, flou a current d.c.. council mber, was chargrgeditith misdemeanor r alalki and rerease. in 191990 he wass senenncncedo monthshs in prison f possessing crack cocaine. we arereeaearng more this rnrng about how theitity of lolos geles is preparing for michael jakson's m mororial service e on uesday. huhunddsds o thousands of jckson fansns are expected toshshow upd some 1,00 lapd officers have been assignenedtoto crowd contrl in the downtownn ar anene policece a a askg people whoo d not have ticketss t to e memoril toto pas stay o oof the wntown rerea. joining me liv here in ssdio, andrew o'connell, f foer secre serve e ent. i knonow have you a new gig. >> i . guidideostinvestigations. >> we'll get thatatpdated, and. officialss a ccerned thatt as m man as 700,000 peoplee -- ev morere---- culd descend onon downtown l l a anges. that's a a problem w whh crowd cororol. how do you m magage at? >> i thinknk fst you lk at
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experience. la has done this before. ththeyave major events att the staplelecenter, downtownnlolo ananges.s. so i think history is o otheir side. but i thinklsls that this is morial so you aren'teally gogog g toave the typepef momospre you'd have a at mooreof aa celebratory event likee aere thlakers won thechampionship. you saw what hahappeded aer at. so i tnknk it is a challenging security situatitionututtt's th ouoor aspect of it, not t t indoor. you'll have e ,000 people ininorors. i inink that will be mostly ivive security. ththathould be no problem. outdoors thouough you may ha veral hundred thousananpepeop out there. it is about crowd saffety, keepining osose lks safeutut also controlling them. >> 1,400 lapd officers fofor potentially ttee-quarters of a mimiioion ppeopl is thahat engh, and if you are exexpeing that kind of crcrowd, whwhy t doomometng like tt up those b big jumbotrons? honestly toalalmo keep people entertaiaid d an fusus on somethinin >> i think it is e enoug
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the pdpd, like anyawaw enforcemenent agcy, i incding ththe secret seserve,e, oftenti you can't't win. ifou don't prepare,, youoot put ththe resourcrc o out there someththin hahapps, then pepeope areondering why uu didn'to . yoveve got too b a abl to acacua folks if s somhing goes wrong.g. have you to be ablee to get emergegencvevehies in there if something goes wrong. they'l'll veve a restrtrteted a that will be under controlor folks s withristbands, for fofos that are gueststsf the fafailil. butou're ghght, they're going to do the best thh c to k kee the people i in aonontaed area but yetiive them engh r rm so ifomething does go wngng they can get themutut of erer >> peoplpl w who are m mhahael jackson fansns havbebe hearing officials say toth,, please don't come down herere you dot t ha tickets. there is not much for you. you'u've snnhe mses aroundd presidents and the likke. cacan u u ju speak a asoso t the people, if you'reeonsidering coming to the ararea, y y don't have tickets, ththers nothing foyou to watch, is it woror it to bpapa o of mmhing? >> i iuesst d dends howouou
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feel abouticicel jackson ultimatelyly but i would sayiviv wat ththeye sayingng, you're prorob best ayaying aaway, staying a homemendnd pbably watching it to the extenentththey have coverern tv. you're right, it is hard to keep people awawa but t enen psident obama comes down, the pope, you te people tryry ttay a aayay but it just doesnsn'twowork > what's s the mpmpy nanam >> guiui pst investigations. >>e gotit. thank you.u. still ahead,what lilies ahed on the road to onomic rerevevery are wen formore setbacks oror are ththeranany gns of a rebound? 'll take a look on msnsn sunday. ddle of traffic and just startrting d stopping. havi to n the middle of babame and then not being a able to go once i got there. and goinat night. i thought i i ha a going problem. d docr said i had a a owowinproblem. wasn't my bladder. my prorostee was growing. i had an e enlgigi prostate atat w causing my urinarary mpmpms.
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tions, or sense of smell. >> what many means too say is-- noi get it. hahave youour family and i'm better off ane. by myseself. > no. withth an estimated $ m million and cunting so far, "ice age 3-d dawn ofhe sign sores"s" cod try transformers" at the top of the box offifice chart. senioror editor for "in tch weweekly" mazineoins us. holiday weekenend, familaffairs taketo billing. >> "ice age" has actually come out on top if you measure it by five-day nubebers on athree-day basis they tie. >> some a analysts e saying thii fourthth of ju box office was lower tn expected. yeah, mparedo l last year when in july w we had "dark knight," "ironman," the wle summerer is own.
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we'rup for theyear 12%. don't be food by that. also with some pretty nice weather in mt parts of th country. pele were instead ofofgoing to the theatete enjing being outside.e. what about public enememies?" saw this movie sterday. i i loved it. i thought it was ggat. i thouought donny j was great. i thought his turn as johohn llinger was oscar-buzz worthy certainly. >> i thinknk itas a a little t emotionally detached >> no. i'm thinkg jn dillinger is not exactly goingo be portrayed ashe warm and fuzzy type. thgh got the sense of his relationship with billie. i thought it was fair. you didn't though. >> i d. i think justwanted more of gut reaction. $25 million on the three-day chart. that's dect. >> he and -- read an article he and chstian bale areort of these two -- some people are
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hoping they'll save the box fices. they're beming these big blockbuster sts. christn bale of course on the heels of "darkknight" from lst year. wod you agree? you think these ys may behe ones w carry forward as box office hties? >> they are the two stars that seem to beoing well now in big-namemovies. the problem is all the movies with big srs are tanki. and o the lost" "imagine that," you can gobig. julia roberts, russell crowe, jamie foxx, jackblack have all headlined movies tha bombed the last threemonths. what are doing well are movies with nobody init like "hangover" or "star trek." something's going onhere. are these starsust too old? manyses, ye are these movies just bad? yes. is the celebrity blogospher demystifying our celebrits? maybe,yes. last theory -- maybe we st
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want spectacle a animation and just "gee whiz" on the screen. >> yet i'm s aer streep fan. she's been around forever. >> she's got a good movie coming out. >> i c't wait to see that, too! i saw the previews. for some lmakers in central india, work is apparent lay good place to catch up on some zs. ready? the eaker of the lower house of parliament s at the podi. many legislators were cght on camera nodding off. some were subtle about it, some were not. spear says all her listeners were paying attention. t! ♪ goodnight goodnhtht th capts or tablets. it's a whole new y from bayer toislve pain fast.
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that's where fourth of july ended with dozens injured after a pedestrian bridgeollapsed at a park. that brie s crded as people triedo leave that park in the town of merrillville after the fireworks celebration ended. at least 26 p peolele weerenjnj ananwe have 16 of em taken the hospital. authorities now sayveverye is accounted for anand ee more riris injuries are b bron bones.s. this brereakgg news from orlando o athihihour as we. a deadadlyccccent atdisney. two morails llided overnightht at disisneworld. ththe operator o one off t trains died atat the snene of t crash. driviv o of e other train was not injured butut w keken to te hoitit as a ecaution. five park g gststs re treated at the snene. the collisisn n haened at approximately 2:00 a.m. eastern time and the monoraill is clossd while authoritieietrtry figure ououwhat causesedhehe collision. > w w deils this morning ababt michael jackson's mememoal serviceater this weeee inos ananleles. msnbc's.com courtney hlett is live in losos aeleles outside a lol l urch holdingititswn seice hororg jkskson a lilitt bit later on thihismornig theeocal titi..
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courtney, with aood mororngng you.u. let's jujustetet the latest on this schededul s serce where you are. itits set to start in a a few hours. what's going to happen? >> good morrni,, alex. rerevendnd a sharpton isis goino leading thihisservice. it is going to be-- wewe'ree ndndinout -- bibigghhane even antntipipat. already peopoplereretarting to trickle in and it is ly 7:3030 oro o he locaca we know atat t church does hold 1,00000 peoeopl now theongregation numbers more th 17,000 people so they're startitingoo make some plans for sosooveverfw.w. woword g gotn out inhe commmmuny y at the revevere al sharpton will be h hrere to commemorate michchaejajackn and his s fefe. i think it is goingtoto b a very spiririt event. >>ny particicarar ason why ththishuhurcwas chosen f for th service as oppppeded to the my others? >> i l lovthth storyactually. thth me church i ithe very rst church f foued by afafrin-americans here in thth city of los angelele it was in 1872. alex, this churchch was one of e rsrstrganizations --- religioios
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born not out o o a teological puose as muchss it was a sociologogic s sps. in oththerorordshey wted to come together and ty're borne ouof an uprisingagagnst slavery, about n having ghts, they weren't protected. i love how itt reaeallsspes to michaeael ckckn in that he crossed so many cicioenomic barriers. he wasuuch a racialal uniter an the purposef this church when was founded was ju thatat message. >> what about getetti t ticts to ththe memorial rvrve? cacauswhen thth all first okoke,there were r rorts that people shouldave foundd out some timetotoy after 2:00 p pm eaerern believe eastern orr pacicifithth they got the tickcks,s, me your plans,, g g n there to l.a..for tuesdaday. now hahat? > sure. nonow what? disaster is s thshsht answewer. 1.6 mimillnn pple have registered for 1 of f th 11,00 tickets at the s staes center. there are ovrflow tickets atat the nokiaenter as well b it is thehe lveve onett stapless t
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everyone's afafr.r. found d ou instead o of hearing abt whetherouou g that today, it t is t goingng be unl l morrow, exex. there e e e a t of people whoho e e waing on the edgege of their se w wittravel planan i'm sure, tryryingg t find oututff th'r're c congng t l.a. onot. >> i think some of them will just coome on inanyway.. >> i do belieieve so. i think soso talk t to uu next hour, thanksko much, courtney azaztt. ke right herere for s speal veveoverage of michaeael jackson's mem coriall servicece dayy tuesdayay omsnbc. it is e ernrnin asasn. aluminum giantnt alcoa hasas be hit hard with thee rresessi. also rerepoeded earnings,hehevr and pepesi. we'll also get a feel forr how retailererfafare in june when they i issd their salesesreport. onong e expected winners walmart.t. department stored anan higher ed stores may noto as ell. >a federal judge ssntil fray to approvehe sale of ththeajority stake in general totorso the u.s. government. the automaker iss working to
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emerge from banknkrucycy prprececti. this mororni i i a new interview, v vicprpridentididen idid t obama a ainistration "misreadad" wwad t economy s s bu stands by the stimululu package. as w we arart theecond haa of 09 will we see theececomy arart rerebod or w wl we see fufurtr setbacks on ts s ad to economic recoverer joinining live for soome perspective, an economomt d presesr at thehe university of maryland,, pepete goodmorning. joe biden said i itt -- went ono say that it is tarly too consider t t psibility of a second s stilulus papaagage but isllso being talkeked about. in thenew york times," "as in the 191930 r s,hehe opponents of action a aededing scare stories ababt inflationeven as deflation looms.s. peter, whatt needs t happen the second h halofofhis year to see a turnararndnd so we don't need to talk about other round of govevemement stimulus? >> what ihhinthat krugman an
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the president'smemen aremimissg is that t isis is not aycyclil ent, that s somow or other demand hasas tpeped wn and a stimulus w wil g g us goining agn. there are ththin that are fundamamtatallbroken in the ecomomthat the stimulus packagagdodoest address. it is really a band-aid. the bankss --ank r rgulatory reforms haven't gottenenery far yet at all a alsoththe huge tradade deficicit tat we h hee h tata offeema for u.s.s goods and services. the president's pplpl have taed a bibi about thatinin discussions withthhihinaut not a lot. to saywewe needoore stimulus is sisill as far as t ey can e,e, we're going to have e buetet fifici of $1.4.4 tililon after th y ye evereryeyear that's a l lot of ststimusus aly ililt to the stem. we d d't't really need to borr much moremoney. this packageisis justababout al that can be d dee at thiss imi. >> can w t ta abouthe job loloeses a how all o of isiss playing into itn terms of the hopes for econonicic recocove?? cacaus had467,000 j jss lost in
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junene it is up 9.5%5% i i terms of tt ununemoyoyme rate, a 26-year hi.. you have job lses month by month h th year s swiwingt went wnwnn may, then a p pcipitous ju b bac up injune. whatat i going on? >> we'r'ree losing lots s an lof jobs in mamafacturing. northeast establblhmhmen ececonisis say that's not important bubu that'ss where the big job lses h hav been and that's largelyy been to the trae defifit.t. nothing the p psident h done will reverse ththa most of w wha he's d doi is focuseddeaeally on adding t to governrnntnt a the government didn't sddany jobs d driring the recession. inin fact, most vels of vernment added meme as consequence a lot of the money iseaeall padding the bureaucracaca a lile bit but it isisot really hancingdedend for gogood a and servicess thate en lost. its going to be bumumpy road. we're goinggoo get a recovoveryy before ee yar is out but i itss not g gogg to be very strong. don't need more ofhat we've done already. we need a rededirtitionn p pici and franklkly,ththeovernment may ed --hereresint maeed neww advisors and h may havee
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ststop listening to s som peopl at he had been liieneninto because e th'r'r letting him wnwn. >> that's s an interesting statement right t ere. can wewe tee a quuic noteff the mewhat improving t tres we've seen in manufacactungngnd consumer s sndndindespite ththe joblbles numbers? is it just that we've been trying to o lo month by month, ififot week byweek, for something toto hangg to and is overalall beenen a little bibit premature whenen talkingbout erall economic recovery? >> exactly. there is a tendency to look at last week's data. recovery inmanufacturing wasn't particularly strong. it bacally says it is contracting le quickly and the jobs data supports that but manufaurers still lt more an 130,000 js i june. whatwe will liky see is the job losses will continue but they'll get sller and smaller. andhe economyill gradually turound. t is is not going to b a really strong covery until we fix what's broken. merely adding to the goverent sector, althoug there are many
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unmet needs won't do . thpresident is going to have to start tofigure out waysto create demand for goods and seices made right here in the united states. his stimulus package is thin on infrastructure spendingn tt rerd, and it doesn't do much about some of the other problems th way as well, especily problems in region and banks. he's guaranteed the solvency of the new york banksut we keep closg small banks around the country. >> ay, peter, thank you very much. appreciate that. we'll go now to -- >> it will getbetter, i promise. >> thank you. to america big birthday ba. a barge ed ithe macy's fireworks display caught on fire. flames were quickly extinguished. nvestigation into the cause under investigati. speculators in new yk and nejersey lined up on both side of hudson river to watch the macy's dilay. it is the country's largest.
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ne this morning, "access hollywood" reportin that the s angeles county departme o childrennd family services is conducting an investigation into the welfare of michael jackson's three young children. the investigation reportedly will include loing into whetherho children had a exposure to drug use by their fathern their home and who woul care for them if the children grandmother cat rib ja katherine jason is not able to look in on this. good morning to th two ofyou. do you think there i anything more to this, avid?
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you think this is simply routine in a circumstance or is this michael jackson oriented? this is a lot. ian't say this is routine. there's nothing about this situation that's routine. you would expec they would interview ople a try to figure o you the what was going on in thathousehold. because it is michael jackso i think there is probably greater scrutiny placed upon this. is judge is ultimaty going to make a dision who gets custody. i think any input from any credible soue the judge can consider will be helpful. thisoesn'turprise me. where it will go, i don'tknow. >> i only we had chris cal balls. right? jay, wit regard to what ty find, let's say they fi the children were aware of drug use. how m theigh out -- i mean play out? would that mean micel jackson's wish would not be respected? would it mean that the court stepin andputs these three kids in custody? i know these are big "ifs." >> michael jackson's wishes are important but they a not the most importa thin the mo important thing is t welfare t children.
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if they observed drug use by their father depending on how horrific it was if that were ue, there might be therapy that would be sgested for em. was miael jackson's mother present, was kherine jackson present ring this? that might be another ctor. anothethg they'll look a is t just how they grew up with michael ckson but they'll also want to know what kathere jason is about,hat is it liken her husband, iser usclean, is it- is it a respectable place are the children going to be okay there? it almost like a normaluman being. both par are dead, children and family services want t make re they'll go to a rlative or somee else, that the place they're going to also a cent place for them. >> her comes a topithat , the e-old question, nature ver nurture. inhis case theiological mother, debbie roe, who is considering stepping in. no definitive decisionn whether she wants to get custody of these ks, the two older ones being heriological children, or e world they've
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known with kathene jackson, a very doting grandmother on these ds. is there any precedent as to the norm, howhis is handled? i thk under the law in california, the biologil mother is given preference almost exclusively. i think the burden is on anybod else who might get custody of e children to prove th they are a more suible parent than the biological mothe this is an interesting case beuse michael jackson really isn't even a biological figure to these cildren either. from what we he the sperm was donated by another urce. the grandmother, altugh she is figure their lives a habeen for all thes years, she really doesn't even have a biological claim to hem. it is fascinating. >> but it's all ty' known. >> you have a thd child there that she i not the biological mother of that child. ihink a judge will not be incled to separate these three children. if debbie rowe wants these kids, she'll have to probably ta all three. >> she already said -- it was phrased in a strange w -- "i
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don't mind taking the third child." >> that's kind of weird. "i don't mind"? i'm parapasing. it wn't "i welcome the youngest il blanket." but i tnk a judge will keep all three together. grandmother seems be a loving grandmother. the judge some big decisions and it is going to be a lot of lawsuits and a lot of legal action goingn about this. >> that'sor sue. >> it is a lot ooney involved. there an incrediblemount money involved. >> oh, yeh, there's that little detail. we don't haveime to g into that but people can ke from it what theywant. program remind, join us here on msnbc for special live coverage of micel jackson's memorial svice a day on tuesday. meante this morning, how to get free stuff. e you lisning? especially when it comes to the summer enterinment joining meere with some ideas, aol consumer advisor gee gentleman lewis. this is a fun topic t talk about. it can get pricey to go to museums and parks.
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when.com. >> that's very cool. what about this nextwebsite that you recommend? it helps you weed throh me go offers from the bad. >> to be clear, when you seah for freebies on the iernet, not always winnin proposition. u get a lot of junk, frankly. but theed ts at waetpop.com have an area calle the economiz. free eebies. fantasticfreebies. they'll say, here's the dea you have to fill out a survey, sign up for a newslett, you'll need to printhis or there is a mail-in rebate required, those kinds ofhings but they give you the play by play so you can decide whether that'worth it to you or not. you n also readcomments from local csumers. i shed up at the daqueen, theyook my coupon, they didn't. when you're optimisc about freebies, you need to also be smart about it. >> great littlnuggetsfor this summer. still ahead, sarah palin's
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new message on facook following he decision to step down alaska govnor. did it answer anyuestions about her resignation? wewe'll take look here on msnbc. the place for politicscs. hope yore having a wowonderfuholiday weekend. i'm meteorologist bill rins. here's the sununday forecacast. all the rain from yesterday up in kentucky and tennessee is sinking fafarther to the uth. chanance of owers and storms atlanta to dallas. hot sll from new orleans to san antonio. we coast looks great. finally some good weheher r you. as you head b back to work on monday, thininooking nice araroundhe country. kekelly unr's nature valalley, the placacthat ipires her to go fast... and slower, elk mounins, colorado.
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maeenowd writes "caribo barbie is one nutty puper. sarahanted everyone to know th she's notavng fun and people are beingmean to her and she doesn't feel like she's finishing her first term as governor." i feel like going me. that was kind of -- wow! do y think that's fair? >> yeah. , you know, everythg's fair in politics. but look, imean i thk that rah palin packaged is t ve differently, saying she's saving
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the state moneyo now they don't have to spend all this ney on invesgaons. i thinkhe made an economic decision. she's about to be a very weahy woman. her family's going to beery wealthy. $7 million bookdeal. she can make aot of money on speeches. i think shewasn't gettg any satisfaction, i don't think, from running thestate. she was gtting nitpicked he own cotituents there in alaska. i thk from her point of view th makes sense. the political pcess isooking at her and wondering is itmart or is it spi tend to think if she has any political ambitns in the fure she's just buried them. >> if you lten to the statement, as we we doing live on friday when it all came do, she talked about setting thins asid bcause of t lame duc status. n't understand why she codn have justcontinued, finished out her ter and said i'm not going to behave by this lame duckgornor orothers who
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take these international trade trips, bilk money out of states or whatever constients you're representi. why couldn't she havjust done that? >> well, first of all, taking international trade trip is not necessary a waste of mon. mean governor do get contracts. is all part othe established way at politicians buness. she coul have just bided her time but i thi she's trying to cut short thes various investations i think there isone that could ll bear fruit and that is whether she and her husband funneled statecontracts to the company that built their very beautiful home i think on lake victoria which todd, her husband, said he builtith a couple of h buddies. that stuff is starting to look ke it could create real problemsor h. andalaska's very far away. if she want to be in the game at a -- and i think she does ug herself veryicely into today's celebty lture. i man she's like paris hilton. she' famous because she's
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famous. does she hold offi anymor no. but she can sti command a constituency out there among the faithful and campaning among the folks she called the "real americans." i think she could be a pretty divisive figure in american politi. >> do you think ashe on the heels of saying that h signation is about cntry, you thin she can do more fr the republic party ithe lower 48 than she does in aska? >> she can raise money for the party but jdging by the reaction of the more serious politicians within the party, i don't ow that they see her as an set now. e's a little radioacte, so i think ey're going to be careful about howthey handle her. i don't think anydy wants to attach t star to hers. we'll see if that changes downhe roa though. you never know. you heardf a guy med richard nixo terms of political comebacks? >> yeah. but he was a solid politician really he wasn't my favore but he had a lot more credibility and
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expertise than sar palin. and he didn't quithalf-way through being governor of california. >> dy noted elr clift, thank you s much. >> okay. stil ahead, the lates on a breaking story. a pedestrian brid collapses following a firewks show. the latest on the juries there. also, anher breaking story. two monorails colliding at disney wld in orlando.
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