>> and i learned that pat buchan plu a sarah p calendar, equals neweality show. >> i havemy real unamerican friend here. donny deutsch. not from al america. >> and if you can be on the beachnd the bay l at the same time who doesn't want to do that. >> on radio today, we will talk about sah palin and michael jackson. >> and eah, michael jackson, our good friend, the congressman from queens. he did a littledancing. >> ladies angentlemen,we now present to you, t great dylan. goodmoing, put on your

pants,he meeting starts now. a busy ek squares up here. we will stt with sarah palin dropping a bombshell beforehe fourth of july holiday. why? we will talk abouarah palin and thgop. president obama meeting with russian leadeas we speak here toy, including their former presidt and now prime minister, vladimir putin. he is the man thateduced freem of the press and all that. you thk we have problems with rus for capitalism. and it's called stealing there. and we are talking about michael jackson. and his family is questioning his will. why are the california taxpers paying for his funeral we will have tt conveation. i derstand they are bankrupt and all in california. >> i know joe znlt like to come

over here, but if he would not mind taking a mind lookgat this. ouch! my back honestly remembers that, d i was planning onater sptsthis weekend. such luck. any way, we will pick up the coersation in just a cond. and steven schmidt will joins to talk about the tackleand we will talk about race relations in this country as we n welcomed our first ever black mayoto the philadelphia, mississippi, upon the wn in which"mississippi burning" based. it's 9:00. let's get to work. >> nobody expect us a to agree on everything, but we are expected to govern with inteity and goodwill and clear convictions and a servant's

hear we knowwe can effect change, and outside gornment on this moment in time onnother scale and make a difference for our iorities. >> andrea mitchell has be spending time in alas, and she joins us ow. andr, do you have a hand on this. how muchis her commit kul ambitions, and how much of this is the prsure from the past d how much of this is none of the above? well, it's a combination, i think, of the essure from w has happened he in alaska. and she has alwaysbeen an ch challeer to the repcans. so she got in a ral bind here couldn't get anything done legislativy and the critics would say was mor interested in sort of celebrity and photo

opportunitiethan doing the nittgritty day-to-day veing. and she s a lot support here. wasillas is her hometown where we are atnow. and there is growing criticism in alaska to be honest. polling not so good as it ud to be, because they felthe had seen the flashnd the big cy and ce back as a political celebritand was not doing the down-home work of alaskaens. and she had etc investigations, 15 out of were diissed. piled up legal pills. she can make a whole lot of ney now wh the book deal with the potential of talk sows and the spee circuit, and keep the specution alive about her political future, even though the strongestupporters in the national republican party say that she is finished. >> joscarborough is joining the conversation. his first trip to "tmeting."

>> tis is crazy or calcating. and jathan is also here from the washington post. sarah pan herself, is she doing this in your opinion because sh needs the money and the visibility without the restriction of having a political offe? nobody knows. but if you want to just look at what isest for her politically, and just beg harsh, and, yu know, just engaging in creative destction and blowi it up and making something better, s has an opportunity to go to the tional state. i a not saying this is right. am just sin that she has the opportunity to get a primetime show on a news netwk, an opportunity to go around and give speeches, and instof having t spend $500,000, which will go up to $1.4 million in ethics

violations. she writes books and will make couple miiondollars,and walk into fox right now and get a $4 million deal. remember, diylandylan looking ae numbers. "saturday night live," a 15 yea high when she wason. and the gop conventis, the ght ratings ever, and it was sarah palin's convention. shdraws vwers like honey draws bees. >> and in other words, she is well set u to have a meaningful political future i she >> her launch o friday, if thi was pa of the caulated plan was terrible. she dinot lo that good. but if she gets the right visors around r, she could turn this into positive. i would not have done it, certainly the way she did it. but she coul spin it to b a positive. >> jathan, are you there? >> yeah, i am here. >> i tink andr hit a critical

point which sarah palin has been to the rodeo now and likes it and wants to stay. you cannottay at the deo and be the governor of alaska. >> right, be the governor of alas far away from thedia centers. lo, if she thinks that she is going launch sort of 2012 presidenal campaign, i think e is crzy. i think wha her goal is to do is to leave alaska, or put heelin aposition, as joe says, g a television deal and give spehesnd go around the untry and rebrand herself make money for herlf, then i think she is crazy like a x. if were her editor, i uld be concerned about what kind of ok she will write. if that seech she gave in wasilla is any cator of what that book would be around. >> how relevan she the republican'spower?

i know some want to stick rin the middle, because she generates so muchemotion, offense and disgust,so is she a centerpiece a prop being used by both sis? >> i am not compang sarah lin to howard dean personally politicallut just as i lates to the party, just like howard dean could just excite the base -- rember in 2003, he came to york, and he gave this remarkable speech. i think itas in bryantpark. the summer before e campaign. thousands andousands of peopleame out. heenerated the base on the left like nobod d sarah lin does thaton the right. can she translate th into a victory in a republica primary? this morning i am saying i don't think so. >>uthe can be a hell

cheerleader. >> and my ther lovesher. ifhe says toote for romney, orwho eve she could be a powerfulvoice. especially if she had a big mega phone in primetime everynight. >> i feel liou know somethin >> i don't. >> in saying that since "morng joe" this morn i have to sense that joe knows a whole lot mo than -- >> let's go up to alaskahis morning. and this reporter has covered sarah palin. is your sense, michael, eith the politics of alaska became more tuble than what she wanted to dal with, or that ka on the flip sde didn't want to deal with sarah palin in her obsession with the lower 48 downhere? >> well, i tink mosy that she

decided that being governo was too hard of work and too demandinndhe could not take the insults that went with it. flying arod the country is a lot more f than sitting in juneau auing with politicians. >> does she run t riskf being made irrelevant? >> no, no. >> do you think theost relevant ph for her is to basically ash herself or get out of politics? >> barack obama, he was a celebry. best-selling book author. t-shirts all over the place. and it's a great thing. and sarah palin ha to be asking herself, wait a secd,otnly am i not getting paid that much for this, and i ametting pounded every day, and my family

is $500,000 in debt and it ma not have been the rponsible thing to do as apublic servant, but i think tat your gentman from alaska is right michaels exactly right, she just woke up one morning and said, why the hell am i putting u with this? i can do e samething, be rich, d they won't harass me. jonathan, u get the last word? >> i wish governor palin well. it's funny that she has given two eks notice to thepeople alaska, but, you know, wish her we in her next phase. >> all right. >> you seem to know more? >> no. i don't. i don' >> we have a man here tat knows -- >> let me tell you sometng. i do not kno more. i do know this, roger understands thathe consertive be loves her and middle america lovesher. "saturday night live," ghest

ratings since she was on. and i just read thatheyave t signed --e-signed gret but i know notng. but yo can connect dots here. crazy lke a fox. >> let me ask you, would rer loveer on a 1:00 every night? yes. >> i hearou are having a hateful segment on me at 10:30 >> yeah, i dog it, but it wa sposed be behind my back. >> i hop you will show the clip of you mauli me. >> yeah,t will -- we would never. >> peoe askme, do you love him,why did you go over there? but itas statement. >> i uerstand the desire to defend yourself

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lcome back. president obama in russia thinks he can reset relationsith that part of the world. savannah guthrie traveling with the esident and his exact agenda. whatis going on? >>eporter: well the pdent is meeng with president meedev today. they have four hours o meeting

toy. and numb one on the agenda, the new start traty, the nuclear arms treaty. the old one expired in decemr. they areoping get a new on they will not se the treaty today, but they are hoping to have a framork for progress. but the issuelooming out there s to do with misse defense. the u.s. has the plans to buil missile defense in poland and the cze republic. and there is no issue that is re in russia's ku than this. the u.s. wants to parate the whole miile defense issue away fr start. but russia nts to make it part d parcel,o there is a lot of diplomacy to bone here. >> excuse me, savannah. is there anythinthat is expected specific on nukes, other than rhetoc? >> reporter: well, i think that we wilget, again, to use the words the framework of an agreement. i am not su there will be numbers toda there are numbers out inhe

press, and the concern the starts calls for 2,200 arheads, andhen they may get it down to the 1,500range. and we will hear aeal with russia will allow the u.s. military to be on russian territory forsupplies, and the u.s. thinks that i significant for the efforts in afghanistan. >> whenou see vladim putin, do you think of darth vader? >> iannot reallsay. t i did appreciate you playi thatmusic. but putin is very pular here. you can do that whole darth vader thing, but the russians would not like th? >> yeah, that's why it'safe for me too it here. thank you, a we'll talk to you on. also joining the conversation, a former

amssadoro the soviet union, and we have maps tha will flip through and illustrate wha we know, which is what the soviet union was, and what theoviet union is. they are a largely capit capitazed -- well, before we get into the etails, mark, you see of the russian government'sesire to have the retionsh with the u.s.? >> i think perfect relationship would be that we would basically stupid and ak, yokn, ithink. and what happened under bush was at we massely overextended ourselves. >> militarily? >> yeah, and every single way, economically and son and made promises we could not keep a so anth reaty isussia's

power expanded grtly under bu bush. >> how so? because ofhe in money? >> ambassado do you share tt belief? >> wel to a degree. what he calls our decline was causedy a series of mistakes. i think our policy many respect are seriously mistaken, and particularly in regd to russia. whh does not mean they me mistakes aswell, they did. both sides bear the responsibility. do you agree with t sponsibility the unitestates and ruia's relationship would be that amica would be weak? >> no, both sides need to be smart and both sides need t knowheir bas interests are

in - >> wheo you believe the parties, where is the common ground? >> dealing with nuclear weapons, which is thegreatest threat us. we and theussians have or 90% in e world. we deal wh that between us. if we deal wi that operly, then we will not keep others from ing it. these are major issues of security. and the seconds terrism. and by the way, they ar letting us supply the troops afghanistan. and ird, issues like the spread of --ike global warming, environmtal -- >> yeah, the fact that we live the same planet. >> russia big enound so on, that you cannot solve this without it. and then on the missile defense, we would be better ofif we operated rather than looking at it in a competive way. >> yeah, missi defense, i agree. thether concerns are mre our concerns. we are not going to goto

nuear war most likely the way we might he in the soviet union day and theanti-missile system is a really big issue f the ruians. i remember in 2006, therwas an article that came out in foreig policy mazine by t american academics, in which th argue that if we set up the anti-missile systemproperly, we would be able to achieve rst strike pri see, and that would be that we could launch the first strike on russia and not worry out a retaliation strike, d that sends the russian crazy and blistic. >> tl me, rk, why you see parallels in the way the ran ecomy is futioning and the way it is in t u.? >> well, a small cck of incredibly wealthy powerful people who are also hooked up with porful foreign interests

that control n our fisc policy. >> who in america or what communities do you view as the -- let's say t bki executives a the people in control of t money has incredible wealth, and is unclear that they akg wealth m creating value -- >> they are parasighting off of the taayers. >> it matters about gay marriage. i am knew to thi >> yeah, and they do t have a lot of choice or leeway i this, because ey have to serve the interest of th really powerful pele. and taxpayers don't get bailed out themselves, but they have to pony up to bail o the rich. and that's structurally how

russias set . >> tha you. we will take a brk. we have benefit of somebody here who a knows the rles of capitalism, and b, de a nice career for himself and i am referring to formew york state attorney general and goveor eliot spitzer. and here to talk -- oris it red ink? i think it's reink. the governor has some suggestions for us as to howe deal wh the structure of our economy, and wther or not the obama ainistrion gets it? do they need to hithe reset button. we are talking jobs in america right after is. [ female announcer olay goes beyo everyday clean to a deep cro-clean. olay deep clnsers reach the micrparticles of dirt some basic cleansers can leavbehind for a clean so deep its micro-clean. ay deep cleansers.

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"morning mti" before we get into the conversation here. and sarah palin, is she setng upo run for president orv host? strange just of position t put those two in the same seence. and they don't have anybody else to representheir value system, orhe represents their value system are either viable for the coervative in this country. why aren't they aainsttaxpayer waste antheft. michael jackson, t funeral teei up for tomorro spking of taxpayer abuse miions to be made for the ncert promoters in thnths ahead, and the state bankrupt is the one paying for the funeral. y are taxpayeying forhe jackson funeral a opposed to theackson family or concert promoter. i don't know? > weakness abounds again. the jo number was not so great

on trsday last week,nd the reality of an economy tha is not creati work,ven if it crea solvency in the bking system, using taxpayer money, it may get the market stable as it was r the seco quarter, but does not get the economy moving forward in a real y. let's g back to work here. unemployment, at a high. home prices continue todecline. i will not get into the nonsense. we are all familiar with where we are at. the question i at do we do t create work. listen to the vice presint on nbcdmitsing some of t obama administraon mistakes up to is point. >> the figures we worked off january were the conssus figures in most of the blu chip indexes out there. the truth is, there was a sreading of ju how d an economy inherented. >> inherited or t inherited, i

don't care. they created ahute here to maintain the stability i t banks. and the integrity was compromised by policies by the folks currently operating it, and tha for a different da this conversation, one speaks to one that we need to to do to create bs, and while we leave the banksn the suend an mission. and eliot spitzer, a man who is a professional inforr of the rules of capitalism, and raw jurt shiler wrote the book a few mes over and had number of ideas ofhow to create systems r theeconomy that create markets and all of the thingse lo to celebrate, and then a moon who is in the busiss and very effective i might add at maging capital in this country on the expectn that there will be rules of capitalism, and

wrotthe book on bubblesabout allen greensp management a the cost of money through the '90s. the title of your piece, which i love, green shoots, red ink, black hol. at does that mean? >> aut a month ago before t most recent jobs data ce up, everybody had a moment euphoria, and they sa wait a minutewe are going through a more fundantaltransformatio and it wa what you described as thedasolvency of the banks. we have sn the destruction of the wealth nerating part of the eco. weave seen months by months destruion -- >> whatis that? >> the manufturing basef the economy where weost 1/3 ofur jobs or e last coupleyears. the data, we he gone to11.8 million manufauring jobs from 18.4 million. it's gting worse and worse. and then you overlay on top of and then you overy a federal

deficit. and then you ovlay on to of that the household medianncome has been ststag nated. anwe need jobs to increase by 150,000 bs per month to stay even. and withinanufacring and the durable ods piece of manucturing, worse and wors and wo u ve fancial rvices falling apart, and manufacturing disappearing. >> prossor, where doe begin the procs r lving some of this? >> the good side of it is an economic crisis is also an opportunity to change our system and ma it better. in my boo ubprime solution," i thought we have to make capitasm better. we are not retreating fm capitalism.

we have to do fundamental infrastructure things. and improvinghe scopeof our markets. improving retai products that serve thepeople. >> bill, your ssef the obama adminiration's getting this has beenvery limited. you haveeen very vol is sang, i don't know if berna gets , really, or acting in a way that he gets it, etc. what would your aice be to the obama administrion listening wheth it's professor sher or others, what wh would you suggest that they do to try to create real economic activity and real job in this country while we havethe taxpayers holding up the banki systems? >> i think e very first job th you haveo do is -- i don't nto trivialize this, but oncehey understand that we

did not have an econom recovery last ti really, it was a bubble, and now we have a deca-old problem, then they haveo t out about how d we gobout stimulang new industries? i am not an xpect, but there are people in the country that can helpet it done. w long will it take? what kind of jobs can we create to benet the country? and the rds are a joke in this country compared to ina? why should we have drive o roads with holes in themhen there are so many people out of work? there are things to do in the shorrun to create jobs. and let's spend the money on ourselves. we have to create industri that will work in the longer term. and perhaps we ned tax inives. the goveoran speak to that >> yeah, and i think we do need tax incentives. but the qestion is are we using the mone wisely. and we are pouring money back

into aig and general motors. and you should say i don care if it's general motors in michigan, give us a meically produced ca and we want new technology, and here is the prize. we will buy e cars from you, get us a prototype witn nine mohs or a year, orwhatever, and i that don'tant to rebuild and pour money into old shell of a company that went bankrupt >> we look at our cars, and y do we not have that car yet? when aig was going belly up, a few guys got into a room a nobody put tm under oand asked what went onn that room? and nobody aed why? whathaened? where is theironey gog, foreign es on foreign instments.

and i am noayinghis tosay we believe in capitalism, but we believe in trade, and you have to bui tngs here tha we can sell and produce. why thatoney went without a estion being asked, instead of sayingo the auto sector, build a bett car and we'll buy it, it's ma mystertoe. and those are the areas where we have got to be pouring money - everybody loves the lunar example. and we have to be the first in the world in every one of those technologies, and pour hug sums of money in those sectors, and say t goldman sachs, daig, you are on yourown. >> professor,how do we do that? >> well, i think that the real

problem is that we have lost confidence, and weave lostthe impulse for entrreneurship. we cannot borrow easily any more. people don't want to hire because t see e economic out ok as being so dim. that's a fundamental pblem, which we may n be le to solve. and it's a worl problem, by the way. not just a us. problem. but i think thbest start -- fit, we need to stimulate. we need another stul package. we nee to expand credit. welso need to expand thinking about ong-term infrastrucre investments, economic frastructure, that let's people know ware a capita capitalistic economy moving forward. >> i think that there is an optimism out the. a lot of pple want to borrow, but the banksre not lending them. and i wte a story about a businessman that was cutf by

the banks, and he nted to expandis business here. i am not a venture pitalists. and theyre saying that they are getting lots of sl bunesses coming tothem. and are e ideas good or bad? i don't know. but ere is a desire and a first creative tee. we have to give i theapital so t ideas he do not flow overseas. >> it's been a pleasure. we will bri you all back sooner than later. i think we may have our firs new segment on t show, green shoots, red ink a black holes. we are a hopeful by our tu. i certain am. and this conversation, for people that understand a rus based capitalism, and no rules sed capitalism. there is a difference. and thank u, governor, and we will talk to you soon. still ahead re on"the morning

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to t take e of these easy spsps toward betterr hearing. that 1-800-336-4990 call now! good morning. welcome back. wog our way toward the 10:00 a.m. hour. seco hour of the"morning meeting"etting under way. sarah palin is out ain. ishis for a tv show or a run at the presidency or both? forget i we'll talk aut what it tells bout the gopthat she is so relave to that conversation. also in this hour, a convsation on black america. again, first black mor ever for philadelphia, mississippi, home of mississippiburning. obously, first black president ever. ishis a sign of racial equality emerging around america or is this actually a potential

liability success is represenin the media, but despair its abound in private. elijah cmings and stephen a. smith and davidwilson comingp with that conversation in just a second. then little lat on here, we'r'rgogointo keep s steenena. smh h around. some of his p psonal analysis on the acctititi of j scarborough ananhihis efforts t take me wnwn last week.. my back stfefed up. granted, ihad someooress overerhehe weekend but we survived. :00 a.m. i wantnt t g g back too workndn t't' talk gop. welcome back. everybody knows sarahah pinin o likely knows that t tisishat sarah palin is ". lot of nnonversation aouout whwhat she may d whyhyhe qut,t etetcscs ialaska, on and on. but arguauayy one of t theoror interesting g nvnvertions is wh d ds it say a abtt the atat of the rububcan party thahat

sararah liliis so relevevan to coconvsasaon about ththe republican rtrty, particularly when you considerththat the history of ththe republican pty is onehhat tends towards conservatitivesese of pital, conservation of taxpayer money no waste, smsmal government. yoyou ow the rhetoric. well, alle'e'reeft with atat this point isepublican party that may have some soort of fale moral high ground that thehey ee standing o but n n doing muuch fofor ybody in america on taxpxpay w wes we're joinin o on ehohone by lay persellili a aideoo the vernor who workeditith r, among ototheththgs on gas dd pipipene policy. sasah palin was effectiveve i a couple of dfefent situations ininalalaa,a, specific t too entrenchchedntnterts so shehaha popowe and persuasion in t tha regard. alal j joing us iss jonathan capehart from"t"t washington stst." jonathan.. in adds vehicle tthth gogop. what d doe itit tell us and whhs yoyourndnderanding o oththetata ofof t p poly universee for the

republican party in t the conte of everyththini i s carrying on about? look. threpublican party is in a state of disarray. the reason we're focusedd on sarah papalifofor gitimate asasonis that she was the viice prpresential nominee in the l ls election, shshe s s soone who energized the base and someonene who excitete the partyy and, to ceaiai xtxten excited pele bebeyo t theepeplican party. but the problem that t t pty is faciningowow is that a lotf ititsoso-cled stars haveve bn n dropping by,my coununt, least ona week for thehe last t thr weweek. sign and then sanford d annonow sarah palin.n. so you haveve got the sts who arare vivi a problele now, you c cme to waashgtgtonnd you focus on t the fact t th e p here in washington has s dd a hard timeoioing up ainin the president b becsesehey don't ha a a set of policyissues t tha theyeyanangrgrabn to to battle with thehe psiside. >> when n tatalko people a aut how the bankbailout went and atat wre doing now, when i talk to ppeoe, h the aumomoti bailoutwent and

where we are with auto manufacturing now,w, t t level trtrag thateople w who pay taxes in this coununtr el for ee w theyey feel they are represented in whihiton, d.c. relatiti to t thepecial intererest w wther it's insidide healthaare and financial cocommitity, et ccerera, is at boiling g pot.t. and,d, yeyet, i fl like neitheh political arty, other ththan perhaps obama himself, who wa ab t to de some of that,, i think, outrage intoto office, b no one in congress sms to really have a a credibility to manage foror that orararne or deoy that. dylan,ththe problem i is at ththrerepuican party, o ove the last eigig years, threreououtts owow playbook inerms of consnsertitismhich you talked about before. so when you have a a president from one party w is going againsnst,ouounow, members of congress from another party, whwhe they are fiscally consnsertitivend about more governrnme a a about m mor usefl spending of taxpayers' mmon, ththeyhrhr that all o the window, sothey are not an

effective counterbalanance to t presesidenen a very ppupur presidenen >> right. .. i would be s shoeded i t teyey didn't't hveve trememendssucces if they - again,the h hdedest problems to solveve. i want to o gelalarrin here out ofof alaska. sah h pan was effective w whh variety of s spealal interests alaska. outsider to the systete larry. wh do you think is heroost effective and mtt persuasive characteriststict t is popoi?? ininththerords, is she in a position --- forget the republican party -- - whe e sh can pture some of thehe a ang th i referenceded on the tax based side eititherr as a a tv dd maybes a future prpresenenal hopeful? >> maybe a a a tv host, m may a a fund-raiser for o oerer reblblan candidadate lookok what she's got goioing for r he she has an engagangng personali. shisis energetic. shknknowhow to w wrkrk up a owowd. so on those isises, su, she can grab the ininrest, hoold o help mee along that

coervative rightingf the reblican party, butut i don't see her everer,ver getting g an suppppt t fr the middddl whichhi he think makes herer uleleable in national ofoffi. >> sheooesave an opportunity, jojonaan, though, to tapnn thisenfranchised portion.n. theeoplehat f fe tat bacally the coastall elite, atat n york/washington maafi that have been s stt of creatin financial structurur an creating manunuctcturg structureses a aaxax strucuctuss have basicical beayed the r res of the c couryrynd she is o o of thosospepeop who is a a partf f the reststf f th countrtr and i able tooat least attempt to work at. i don'n't dedersnd why the publican party doesn't wrkrk it themselves w whhomebody who might bebe meeololically viiab anand maybe less theatrical. the lyly tng sarah palin n do right n isivive ice to the opop in the middldle of e e cotry o f fee that washiningt i inot doing right by them.. for her to be ffecve, it'ss to gogo f fm being a a voice to be

soonehoho c also state, nvincingly, what the solututio are, w whatt the countererarmemt are, whh the cntnterlicies arartoto wat isis c cing out ofe white e ususe d w whaisis comin ououof speakerpepeososi' office andajority leader h har reid'd' fifi. right nonow, s she h hn't shown neheherheisisciine nor the interest to doo that. >llll true. jothan, thank you for yoyo titime and your contributionsso this program and thiseeeeti so far. larry, niceoo talk to o yo o o the phe.e. eny your week. wewe'ltake a break and we'rere back with a lk at black erica as we set upp for the chael jackson funeral.. obviviouy,y, whave our rsrs acacpresident and barackck oba,a, andththe town upon which the misssssisippburning film was babadd has ththei first bckck mar.r. are we seeing racial equality r arare are the risk off creatin

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aaoookt race relatitionss in ths ununtr not just as we w wat our first black psisint get his feet u uerer him,m, his fst trip to rgsgs sha, o oiously, under way foror him. also james young, first-ever mayor o phadelphia, mississippppi,o o ben african-americanan.. this, of course,he home ofof "msisisspi burning." i i wi bring the yoyo in in a a second. i i wa t tstart the conversation with d dee willso ee website grgrioomoms a partner mns. you're doing great w wk.k. i justst like seeiei what you'r ing. walklk me throroug y yur view ot just the obamama presidency, th missssisppppi bubuining, and ja ung coming in t trun whatat was, obously, one of the cici town to o th point thatathehe bs of a a theaeaicical film a anda ththe restst. it. what is your concern and w wt do you likee a and what do uu not like? >> t theararboth remamarklele achievements.

>> i didn't introduce e yoyou, stephen. >>t's all igight! it's okay! i didn't realalizyou were on the cara already. welcome to the show,stephen a.. smith. >onon't worry autut it. g go ahead. >> i i wsaying bthth are remamarklele achievevemtsts buty concernn has bebeenhahawe do not become complacecentnn believing all of o racialssues have be solved with the electionon of barack obama and inn jmes young's case,, the e ectctio of jamemes unun in mississipppp >> what do you belelie i i the biggest issuenn race relations in america right now that n n oe was s talk ababou no one i is dedealgg with that t elephahantn n e room in th context? >> well, i b belveve d't know w w to talk about it, b but i believe it's education. it's a huge achievemement gap i education. >> do you agree with that, tha education? o obvusly, that is a part of it but i t thi a bigger concern and that i is this. byarack obama being elected d president of the u unid d stes, you haha to u undststd that blacks are stiti minority in thisis ccoury, understand that

e majority believes y you have a black president owow as r rest, we don't ntnto hear about racism, we d't'tant toto hr abouthhat stuff. if you e notnn afafrin-n-amican in the united states of america, you hveve to recognize theole t some degree may be e acalal even more diiciculbecause you have a vast majority of white americans out there that are ssmiive. >> likee me. lisste and in defense,, bauau times have gten s siififantly better than w wtt they wee i in decacae past. > rht. don'n't u u ink education is the biggesest spspity that the ality of education t tt's ailable to middle c cla and wealth of communititie o o any racennd e quality of education thatat's available in or communitiesf any rre, alththou a a l those mmmmities, for better or worse, and particulalay y inur ties, tend to be black or other minoritieies? >> therere is always a disparii that exists s buii think thahat white amamicicans rcocoizing d c coininuoly recognize tat, again, you have

afcacan-ericans out there thatat are not reivivg the proper level of educationon that it affects us all. >> exactly. >>ou're only as strtrgg as urur weakest linknk so everybody cognizes thatat. i think thaha is part andararc whyy y have anan african-americn esesidt. >> i w wt t to g get represesene cummings in here.e. haveve y h hea the conversation up to this point? ye i have. >> jujump i i hehere >> i agree that educacati is exememy signgnifanant. bubut e bottom linenesshat i've ra president amama' campaign here in maland, and ihink he is doing some great thingsgs, the e ctct still mamainthat lking in the studio justst a few minutes ago, i hadhree people to a me for obobs. last eveniningii visited lady o o a victim of h heah h ca disparititanand says s s will dead w whihinthe next t thr dad. the problelems of african-americans contntin a a i ink the urban l leueue in t t statatef ack aerera report clearly showed there a definini d decne with regegarto thstatus of frfric-americans,

with regard to educacati, ecomics, health. you can ne almost eveveriningl elent and are stl in a problem areaea and ii t tnknk thhe guests said some very importanttthings. we cannot let thellecon of barack obama, as mhh as we applauauitit, give p pelele the impression t ttverything is fifine because everythihi n not nene >> i thinknk it's popoant. i ululdn agree withouou more. yoyohave to rrember, unemployment rightnono ist 9.5% nationwide.. some states ththrohoho this ununtr it's in d dblble didigi.. threrealy is that m telling yo rht now, i think i spepeak for all l ofus up rere, when yo talk about expressss as it pertaiai t to afcacaamericans, enen yralalt is a affted very little else mattte.. in termrm of you bngng pro choie guess what? ththat isbobo yourerersol business butut w wat happens to wallet and thewawall of the cocoective whole is definitely something that we nene t to pay tention to. > wch the raid on our wallet that we've watched a groroo

bring g pelele in here who spent their r veves russiaand thehe sisimiriritihh say between ththe erican system of the bnk ceo i couldldt t seany differeren. . >> african-americans fefeel it a g greer level. some estimatatunemployment f fo rican-americans m r risup to 2020% the endff t thi year.r. we're still fefeelggit to a greateregegre >> piggybackcks off the p poi i ma earlier. wh you consider the fa you ve aican-american presidenen and combined witith e e fa it affects us i a c casastrhic faioion a a muchchoo prouound lelel l thcombination of the two kes it moreonongi for thehe riricaamerican community becausus a aga, you can't lean more races when you go an african-american p prededent >> that's right. > one morere point quiuick a twtwoeeeeks ago, a a couple of s o,o, u.s. senatetenanimously vovotetoto apologigi for slaverr shshou h he been a big storory t ititasasn' i thihink that was pretty m mhh symptomatitic his moving

guard, this - -- >> meaeangng at a different context,enenatvote to apapolize for slavery w wou b b in eerrt of evy paper dd nowpopoloze for aaly, forgrgeti you got a black prpresenent. >> let's b brereal and straigh. if you h h t the choice between ceiving an aololog orakakg surere that my wallet wasastt affected i willakake choosos t mama sure myyalallewasn't affectcted i don't care a abo a an apology i want to make sre the people who shohoweupup at foreclosure preventitionaiai a feweeks ago, thousand of them, stayay i their homes. these african-american people. i i watotoake sure that kids are ableo go to hohool go to cocoege and do everything g an gegeaa goodeducation. i mean, i think we areeoving dd me to bottt leses w w can we pushsh the african-american folkssororrd andpopolo is not gettiting to me. i would sayouou start w wit ededucion and 5-yyeaolold children andndavave thepopogy for another day. i ntnto bring themamayo in,n, mayorouou from iladelphia,

mississippi. yoowewereo give us a ex -- cocoext of your positionon a mayor of this t twnwnn the coexex of i i history, mr. yoyor,alk us throughh your characterization of philadelphia, , ssssisppi t to as a icon of american r racsm fefeively today a and yesterday, figuratively. >> good morning, sir. >> good morningng >> good morning,,gentlemen. >>ood momoing. >> w we e e fr my perspective of what isoing on inn philadelphia it kindf like a a microcosm what is going onnn the n natn.n. my election wawanonot out cor. it was abbou sues, j jo a are number on i hear you ntlemen talking about the cketbook. jobs andpersonality. this was the prococes that i think gotmeme electedbove ererhing else. dd it b bee race,hahait been solely on n race, i would notote won n beususe are in the miminoty. ihihink we areensing a a

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eiei our politicians a act i a way to crereat education and resoururce >> that's trtru >> that also touches on aother issusuanand at issue is withh everythihingouou jt said, yet, at are weseeing in washington? 're seeing gogornrnme being pupu in a position withth more control and i'maying if y youee owown ability handle things appropriately andwith so degree of w wantued, t t fa is you want m mor control but i'm l loong at -- i'miving yoyothis control, i i'm giving o these dollllar what is happeninintoto m >> the taxpayeyersececom the doormat. w we' been there. >t's over.r. >> it's erer >> rican-americans, we've been, i think, below t ormat. >epeprentative cummings, you get the lt word. >> i w wantoto surpass sosomeing the mayoyo said. ople are okokinfor competency and peoplpl w w hava compassion and p peoee who hava emempahihi and he has that. people are b becinin lessss coconcned about the color but the competency ofsosobody to do the job. they wanant t t government totop them, not hurtrt them.

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speech disabilitiess access www.sprintrelelay.com. weome back. i'm lan ratigan. time to reset ourgenda on this meeting. continue on themich jackson front,pecifically who is payi for the morial tomorrow. hureds of thousands expected and ticketsold on ebay. the family,ncert promoternd en the taxpar apparently on the hook for a piece of this. contsa is checking theath for us. sarah palin. gop iscratching their head. why not take up t issue of

taxpayer abuse? she is settinghe stage for 2012 r or looking to get a tv show? my bet isoth in a few minutes, psident obama will giveis first live jot news conference with the esident of russia. presidentmedvedev and preside obama in russia ler on here going into the 11:00 ur. striking similarities, unfortunately, apparently, between their capital sucture and ours. moref the "morning meeting" coming up here. first, the first "morng meeting" moment won't forget is this e. joe scarborough, 6'5", 260, and my lower back. anyway, stephen a. smi is back to analyze the fu contact event that the "morning meeting" became late last week. first, let's stt on mj and who is paying. ris nzen joinshe

conversation. someone i'm fg at this meeting with grea sfrecketsys i believe lifornia is one of the mostinteresting conversations we are going to have in this country wl bethe california conversation not just the michael jackson coersation but the bankrupt state crsation and the technological innovative conversation andegalizing marijuana and on and on. chs is the reporter on the beat thatis t future of america. for strs, chri we do michael jackson. who is saying what and who is pang for what? what is ing on out there? >> that's a go question -ho is paying for what. a lotf people are asking that queson. some people are sayi despite the police are saying don't come down hereunlessu're one of the 17,500 people to g tickets, stay away. there is a pereter. all of is security. some peop suggestg as many as 750,000 peoe could come

re. the estima we'reetting at msnbc news is 2.5 milion. who will pay for its the question. you're looking aa city with a budget deficit over $500 millio dollars. you got police and sanitati and commications cost some people are suggesting including some people on the city council why isn't aeglive, the folks who were putting on e concert, paying? why aren't michael jackson's folks paying? >> yeah. >> part of the quenei so much money is generated by his estate, clearly, why should the city that is talking abt layingff people have to pick up thetab. >> l'salk about thi i wa to bring dennis into the conversation outside of the conversation. l.a. city councilmember and toure is with him. one day on the setand you bounce to l.a. and you left me. nice to see bo of you. dennis, d you have a handle on how much it's going to cost t taxpayer to get mhael

jackson'semorial service here and gone? >> i know th numbers keep going higher andhigher. the last estima was $2.5 millioand ted out at a million and now up $2.5 million and continues to grow every single day. wee got a number of offers at dodgers adiu where they e distributing theickets and wristbands. this morning, security at stles and been here the last few days andcontinue into tomorrow. if the folks show up, the thousands of people show up as they anticipate, we anticipa having thousandsf officers here from the los angeles police departme. we have a 10,000-person department and if we need mutual aid, the l.a. county sherifs department andhe highway patrol and our departmt is preparing toave a large number of officers, asell as a large crowd of folks that show up that do not have a ticket. people are being told do n ow u you don't have a ticket. people m be showing up from othe parts of the country because they did receive t notificationo have a ticket but the cro, the traffic control is going to be horrendous. >> l's look at this.

$2.5 million for 500 officers there. that is the lapd out of pocket. gets more interesting. potential revenue for the people o own the rights to michael jackson's asse which is his entertainment, his music and his video. the rehearsal veo and dvd sales, a lot of assets th are ill to beonitored and sold to money. and who gets checks and ious. in the current budg crisis, it is startling sometimes see who is nting money andho is getting money toure what is your sense of where the responsibility for all this resides? in other words, sou we be evenaving this conversation d should the taxpayers involvement even be part of this or is this enoh money on the tabl and enough futu revenue from the jackson estate that this is silly? >> well, i don't know. i uldn't put it on e jackson family to pay for this. this is a historical event that

people wil talk about and rememb for years to come. i mean, a a taxpayer, i struggle to sa the taxpayers should pay for this or should pay t that but this is sothing we're nev going to forget. a hundred years from w, they areoing to gooh, my god they had to redene the parameters of life for this man consistently throughout their life. number one child sr of all me and biggest album of al time. funeral memorial but reallyhe people's funeral at the staes center. just having to change th envelope forhis guy over and over ain and i mean like when you create the biggest srn the world,has what's going to happen. >> but just becse micel jacksohe and god bless him was le to create and make himself into those hworked with the largest star of all time, wh is it tt the bill for that trendous event ends up with a bunch ofpeople who

ar already busted for money paying for a varietyof lega immigrants, whetr you like it or not, they also benefit from the illegal immigran. a conrsation for another y. a soety that i sending is toeople instead of money for public assistance, drug habilitation, these sorts of things right now, and, we're into write a check r sobody sitting on millions of dollars in assets? it makes no sense t me >> i mean,ou know, i think y see a lot of times taxpayers payingor things they may not nt to pay fo right? i know in new york, you know, 're paying $47 millio as taxpayers forhe yankeeso have a new stadium. wod we vote for tt? mae, maybe not. but those the sort of things that politicians st of p on us. >> there is nnnis right there. put it onhim! denn will wear . he doesn'tant to pay for this. go ahead, dennis. >> le meay this. aeg was gog to promote the concert. aeg owns staples, operates

staples. aeg is putting this memorial on. all due respec to the jackson family and micel jackson, an internionastar, disrespect but tis particular memorial service is going to cost $2.5 million at tis stage and i believe aeg shou pick up the tabor that,ot the jackson family but a. they are going to make a lot of money on it and they should pay theab for ts particular memorial service. this is a memorial svi and it has to be done in dignied fashion and not money making operation and in essence it is for aeg and they should pick up the tab. >> i agree wh you. chris, are you ther >> yeah. t play vil's advocate for a second here. even the cncilmembers ic talked to said, lok. part of this is built into our budget. we do traordinary events and why we'r the entertainment capital of the world b also if go around here and you talk to folks runnin the hotel and running the restaurants, there's going to be a real economic

boom. what whaven't seen yet ishe numberon how ch money all these pele will bring into the city of los angel. we have lled around a little bit,or example, the wilshire hote has a thousand rooms down the stet here. they are 90% booked as of last night and ink they will be so out. last week at this time they were only 60%. i bet if you call the mriott or any of the other hotels here, a holiday innext door, tey will tl yo thathey are booked, too. there is also an economic plus that comes with this. how is itanth balan out, 'll see in thefinal wash but no question thatall of these people who are going to come into los anges are going to bring ca with them. >> yep. you make a great point and grt counterpoint. thank you, chris. thank you dennis, thank you toure. we'llake a break. we are back with sphen a. smith and the culture attacking show hosts on "morning joe." get ck to that in second. brng news from esent

obama's meetinin russia. it now looks like russia agreed to let the united states fly troops and suppls overts air spe into afghanistan. that's expected to save the unitedtates somewhere in t neighborho he of $133 million annually. you'll rember that the we somessues withome other countries srounding afghanista they did not want the united states to use the territory or air space to fly in pplies to anistan. bame probmatic for the united state now russia ys it will allow the united states tosehose transit roes over russia. by the w, also angreement on nuclear weapons here to cut nuclear devery systems withi seven years. it los like they are goi t try to cut that by 500 to 1,100 units. that is e associated press alert i'm tting right now. so deal between russia and the united states, th first smit that we've seen here since the

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momoren this. keeping on trk, we should g g soso interesting detetaihere, dylan. >> yeah, indeed. cacarl watson is getting t trorl with us in sececon give me one second andnd ll fifini things up. the president begins with his cocoersation in russia,, the similaritiesesitit russiaia aar unfortrtatatel striking through e eyes of mark k ai a a american whohopepent much of his life as a cpitalist in russia before leavivi and s srtrtin th xaultonlnlincocoand fofoerer ambassador acknowledging variables himself and former vernor iot spitzer diususng the sisimiririti that exist not t on b beeen thiis,ut ho the social problems and ststctural problems, theflaws d d e failurure to enrce the rus s of cacapilili thatreate basically money sucucke out of taayers and warehoused with those good atuuckg it out of ththe x x se but ging us nothing in rurn excepep foroo money.

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good morng. i'm rlos watson. right now there a fresh fis brewing over the ntrol of miael jackson's estate. in fact, we have live pictures tstl.a. courthouse a heari is under way in less thanalf an hour. we're learning this hour about tomorr memorial forjackson but not everyone is mourning the king of pop in fact, could his deat and legacy b getting paisan? >> ts guy is a

pervt and child moster and to give him this much coverage day in and day out, what does it say about our country. >> . we will ta about that in a minute. plushat was sarah palin thinking? of a lical genius o has gnation sarah palin jumped the shrk? alsohis hourid vice prident biden admit t country in free-fall agn? >> so the trh is there was a misreading of just how bad econ we inherited. that's all coming up this ho right here on msnbc live. we g apacked ow. pat buchanan a michael eric dyson and jack reed and toure and a wholeot more. wefast forward totoday's top three stories. president obama isin moscow meeting with russian leads includingvedev and putin. the president's pledge toreset relationsith russia following

the sch adnistraon. al frken is headedcatol hill for key meings. abt two hours the next seni senator om minnesota is expected to meet with senate majority leader hay reid. he will be sworn in morrow. robert mcnamara has diedt . he served as defense secretary under presidentsennedy and johnson and later became president of wld bank but is remembered most for his orchestration of the vietnam war and vilified by antwar critics the rest of his life. palin posted this on twitt today. quote. we're ing to talk about. in fact, wre gointo talk it bit wi my gut co-host today i'm ined bmy friend, the ca a