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>> we've never seen anything quite like this. you have t potential of a biion le watching. >> what can we pect to see? a live report is ahead. also this hour, ret in russia. president obama meeting th russia's presint working on a new start andfewer weapons. >> the world's two leading nuclearpowers, the united stes andrussia, mustle by exampl from russia to the vie from alas. sarah palin quiter job and t drum beat that s is unsteady continues by republicans. >> effectivetrategies in politics areones that are so clear andobvious that pele can grasp it. it'sot clear what her strategy is >> asalin bashes the media, remember what she sa about hillary clinton's mdia criticism. >> she do herself a disservice to even mentio it reay. you ha to plow through that. you have to kno what you're getting into. and the other things we thought you shld know. >> lies and gentlemen, got
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them. >>hen saddam hussei was captured, heas armed with a glock handgun. guess whatormerpresident now wantthe gun as a souvenir in his presidti library. all that and more this hour on msnb good afteron, everyone. i'm taon hall live in new york. hey ther david. >>hey, tamron. i'm david shuster live in washington. the big picture, michael jackson's moth has lost control of her son's multimillion dlar estate. cath reason jatherine jackson ta los angeles judge toelay his decisionbut the judg rejte her request today ruling in far of the king of pos wishes. the judge backed jackson's attorney john braa and music executive hn mcclain both named in jackson's 2002 will. there was another hearing set for august 3rd where ktherine jackson could stillbeamed permanent admistrator. meanwhile, jackson ns have been arriving at dodger stadium all dayo claim their coveted ticketto tomorrow's memoal service. more than 1.6 milli people registered for tickets, d only
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8,750 mes were ch. nbc's michelle kosiki join us live. i suppose a lot of fans aren't so concerned about t custody batt, but where do things stand asar a jackn's millionsnd which direction is this headed? >> reporter: well, you said the right word millions. that's why this is soou are n and so portant, and we're not evaing about millions here, buthundreds of millions, possibly a half a billion dollarwhen all is said an done. itas kind of a crazy dayn court. re than a den lawyers were present representing vario sides,nd there was en a littit of an uproar this morning when a dbie rowe lk alikealked by causing t glal press to swarm around her and to r. it wasn't her. just a look alike. we know both sides here, the executors named in mge's wiicha jackson's ll and his mother claimed a viory. temporary conol of the estate
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are i the hands o michael jasos attorney and a former manager of his. but katherine jackson's people also said, well, you kno what? the judge did ke thunusual step of wanting to ensure that therine jackson ist least madeware of any decisions concerning the estate. so the question would be these two men were named by michael jacksoin his 2002 will, why would she the be trying to ga control of the esta? there are a cple reasons for that. on at the time sh petioned for that theill had actually not yet been file with the court. th cited reasons li worrying that other wills wouldppear th might trump th one,ot knowing that thiwill is valid and, in fact, it has not been offici lly ruled as valid by the court that. could take another month her attorneys al argue that one of the executors namedjohn branca, had actually been fired by jackson in the past for different asons even though he was hired rently. they had questions about that. but in the end they said they did not contest the ll. they're okaywith it,but they stl want katheri jackson to reserve her right to be able to
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objecto things as she would be by law away. guys? >> nbc's michel kosinski, michelle, thks for the report. >> the bigger picture, the ongoing investigations in the wake of michael ackson's death. right now jackson tee childrenre in the custody of thsinger's mother. but the l.a. department of children and familservices is w looking into the wfare of thdren. thinvestigation invoes talking to thchildren about their life when their fath was alive. and the other vestigation, ether prescription drugs pled a role inichael jackson's death. he los angeles times" ports that five doors who prescribed medicine to jkson are unde inveation. joinin us is head anesthesiologist dr. howard neer >> thanyou. >> how do they put together an investigation? when a ctor gets a certain medicine for aatient, is there way of tracking tha how ou piece that together? >> there are computer systems now that can track at least f the controlled subsnc how
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oftethose prescriptions are requested by a physician and how many pills go t each patient. and i thin that in california the bureau of narcotics are able to -- naoticenforcement are able to get that -- access that computer database. they can actually go back andt least prescriptions that were filed under micel jackson's name, find out who, where, and how much. >> but in the caseof this celebrity, there are reports that there may have been aliases used. if that were the case, would they be ableo reconstruct what doctor gave potentially michael jackn a medicine that cld ha killed him? >>hey would have to go back and try to find if there was emy pill bottles in his house and they could see someof the aliases that werused, some way to find out what os alies names were so they could track it. otherwise they couldrack it by the doctor who may havbeen associated with michaeljackson. >> one of the drugs there looking at is propofol.
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>> propofol. >> used by anestheologists ke yelf. we know it's supposed to be a powerful sedative only used in an e.r. wod that be tracked if smeone took that ou of a hoital, is there arking for these medicines? >> wel that's a very tightly corolled medicine in the hospital, and e wouldave to sign that out. that just doesn't get out unless it's taken ilgally, and, of cour, if it's taken illegally, they'rnot going to be abl to nd out who did it very readily. >> how would youet it illegally if it needed to signed out? >> legay? >> illegally. >> the way hospals andurgery centers are seup now, it uld ha to be spensed, given to ananesthesiologist requested for a specif case, and anyof that material don't get used woulhave to be returned back or at least signed offby that health care practitioner thate or she has used at and wasted it. so it's a very tightly controed substance, and as
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such it's hard to get ahold of. >> doctor, i don't want to put you on the st but i have to ask you this. one of the websites vering this story haspoken with the attorney of the doctor that last sa michael jackson he said i did not give demerol or oxycontin. he wouldn't say the same about propofol. ethically would a doctor required togive that kind of informatn, especially an investigation like that. the ethics of it as a doctor? well, that's tough question. i think tha youw, it's a matter o telling the truth, and i think that ethicly the doctor has got to tell the truth. >> it's interesting. doct, thank you very much for your insisit. we always leaea a lo wn n we talk with h u u an yoyo s sta there. ank you. m my plpleare. >> stayy tuneded morrow for all-yy coverage for m micel jajasoson'memorial sercece we will bebe anchchining our vevege alongitith chris jansining. she will be liive in los angnge in front o of t s staesenente alall srtrtg at 11:00 eastete right here on msmsnbc.
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tamroron, now t t another mr story thiss hour. sarah h pan'n'sombshell anannounmeme that she'steteppg down a a governor o of alaska. she stutueded fansanand ctics alike on friday y afteoooowith her decision, anshshs totoucd d off a firestorm off speculatioi about whatshe really p pns to do next. in the meantime, shehe's now king aim at h her citics poststing isisn twitterer today. critics are spinnining, shaha in thereess theyy feed false info n the righgh desion made ass i enter lastst year inffce to not n again. bubut speaking ofpinning, ppa palin's lastst yea i ishe stayeded, ululd t start for another sixonons. joining u us david corn, washingtgton beaea chiefor mother jones. david, first of a, anan for beiningitith . >> gooddtoto b with youou. >> vid, yououould fact cckck this thihingoror hours andnd ho ananjust have somuch material say,aiai a seseonond, sarah papan got somethihingwrong. on friday she s said all 15of e ethicscs cplplnts haveeeen diisisd. younnveigated thisisnd lolooked at sarah h pannururing the
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mpaign. whwh she saayse've won, i she ininaccurate? >>elell, n seseveraacacally she's beenn ruled gainst. sotitimethere's been split decisionons, b s seral hve gone agnsnst her. several l ar pepenng. so it hahasn't been a a slam du. i just fnd the wlele peperfmance, and i think that't probobab t thebest word toouse for it,nn fdadato be almost inexplicablele. if she was reallllreresiing for those reasonsns,f didn't c cee across as ve convincing, and if shehe h a grara plan aboutut why to resign, thiisis ging to hehe h hersomehow,shsh alally didn't g ge e tomuch of a aclue for r th.. when she td her twitter llllows, as you just noted, hang inere, theueueion is ng in there for what?t? you oow,s she goining to make thergrgumt that she's qualified for prerededent now tt she's quit h her job ass gvever alaskaka? thentnterting ththgg is, yoyou know, the r repters closest to heher, tse who have beenn
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coveveringerernd her admininirarati up in alaska att the anchorage dailynews and otr r pars have y y to turn up anything t that ulul give any re sisighinto her decision than w whahad en it first hit friday afternono h herd.c.time. so a lot of reporters arare didiggg g in thihi but sti the are farmomoreuestion marx than that ar answersrs >> davidid, wee give rrha, i dodot know, the iea that s s's' goaa political fututu on the nanaonal political stage,, do w give that ieaea too muchcredit. en you look at the number of publicans who dscscrid her eratcle, inartrticule,e, noensical, even f f news eyey dcribe her as nonsensical. most sayhe's destroyed whatever credidit sh m mht have rr a 201212 run >> i think t the's strong lili in the rerepuicican party, even amongthth conservativivee vement, about whether she was credible candndidatbebere ididay i thinkafafteards that t spliiss maybe 90/10 and 10% might be
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charitable in terms ofof the people w witn t the coerertive areaea, ndndit and strategists whbelieve she might h havenyny oxen left in political career. noououbthere are tens ofof ousands of sarah palalin followers ouou t the who buy whatever shehahas to sese, but thk amongst ththe professional political class onnhe reblican side o of t aislsle they seeerer morere or less as a and it will really be a case o risisingrorom e dead, real polilitill resurrection ththat' gogoin to be necessary to tter ba on the nanation s sge as a crcredlele cdidate. >> even with ee lt of t thigs yojuju named and so of them i think manyeople wouldld agree spsp on observatationsffoon to f frmrmerovernor sarah palin. liliti asked a n numr of peoplele whaisist about sah? i i fod some of ththose answerso intriguing. evenititall of theseknocksnn thhead that shehe's g gtitingrom
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puititand wwrirsrs, what i i i ououher that still makes her so intrigigui?? >>we,, i ththi, you know, ee way ee exxododedn theatatiol stage, comomingg out of noererr many amemerinsns a c catulting righght the top ofpolitics, rurunng g wi john main, it justst was a a vevery bizarre p begin with. so she was introduduced a a alm an dity, she began as a mystery. whwhy ululd hn mccain pick her? she's young and vrarant e certainly doesn't h hur in ee looks dararent, and she came out very combativee and spe e r one slicef the repuicic constitutuency populiststhahardore conservative ice that believed bara o oma was papallgg around with teterrists, and she didd it th trenenus relish and gusto. i think she became a compelling figure on bhh sides,or people rally to and fororpeople to not like. then shebebeca a soap o opera th various pregnancies, h
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own family took t to the air was on theaytime talk sws to dis each othth.. they had ray lotot todo themselvlves whh turninghe sarah h pan n sty from a political story into a s opa oory d d noshe continues to be, youou know, i guess "peoplple"ououlday one of t t 2 25 st intriguing opoplef the year, a a thass just not going aw unlls s sh sortrt of ststoes off and doess salmlmonisisng for r th next tw years. david corn, tnknksas wway we appreciciate it, andn eaeang of intriguing, h hav to wowonder i i the intrigue is ov something akin to a trarain wreck. > a it's hard to say, daid. this woman, you cann s sy h name d d in room people react. ev people who areotot popolical junkies as mostof our dience i'm sure are, b but it's an inedible story. it will be intntertiting to see how this plalays out, for good fofor bad. >> absolululyly. texas m man took pololice on
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wild ride this afteoooothat lalast nrly anour. theususpe drove a white minivan at h higspspee on a freeway and severer side streets before l leangng lice to a parkrking rre. the e ma g got out othe van anad ran to th upper vel. with nowhereo o go, h jumped to lower levevel and was quickly caught. he was reportedly wanted foror rgrglazing a car.r. up next, s srcrchor a killer. hopolice are trying toind a possible sererll ller inmall toto amica. plus, president obabama arved in moscocow. what he e n expect fromm the m who many sayay really runs t th kremlin. >> d later innhe ur, we'll have oururwnwn video tribute to sarah h lilin. you don't wantnt to ssss th.. it's a g gre highlighteel or lolow ghght el depenenngng on yr point of view. yoyou' watching msnbc. [ femals bend everyday clean a deep micro-clean. olayeeeecleansers reach the micro-particles ofofirirt me basic cleansers n leave behind for r clcleaso deep its s micrclcln. olay deep cleansers.s.
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police are classifying t dedeat of former nflfluauartbac ststeve nana as a homicide,bubu they will nonosasa that about t woman he was found with.h. theododie ofcncnai andisis 20-year-old gigifrfrie were founovov the weekend in a a nted conned dominion in shshvie, tennessee. heasas st four tities. sahel kazemi was killed by a sising g gunot wounun police say thehe two had been ia relationonship mcnair was rrrrie with four chilildren new details thisoour in the hupp for a possiblblee serial killer in soututh roroli. there ararnenew ports that t the suspect who auuthorieie believe killed fivepeople may h have did in a s shoouout across t t bordr in northth colina. nbc's ron moott joins u from south carolinanawithhehe strang details. roron,hat is the latesttre? >epeporr: hey there, tamron.
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into the ames. >> that's what left o kurtis vis' car. >> he managed to dive safely out of that burning car. he was checked out and is ay. >> so hot c in the jalapeno race. i love it. >>amron a chinese tightrope walker br two wldecords overhe weekend by walking a high wire above the ground between two untains. thout a net. he crossed the le-long rope while one ofis students walked on the same tightrope toward m. one pblem ty didn't discuss other in mdair so.to pss each one man laid down on the rope while the other man stepped right over him. >> tt was planned. look at that. two improvises that. >> nice outfits. >> i like t outfits. another fun-fied eve, more tn 200 people climbed into woodenndry tubs and raced do a japanese river. boers tried to paddle their
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way downne quaer of a mile down stream i the annual tug boat race. participants say it's all about p paddlingeeping the tub afloat. >>hat is with the wood aen mask? >> i thought tey were groucho ma. >> finnish couple has taken the t prize in an unusual competion. they won this year's worl wife caying championship c i eastern finland. each husband carried his better half through an obstacle course that includedjumps and a pool of wer. 36 competitors from 13 diffent tries, including th united states, took part in the races. >> you know there' that book, what is it 1,000 tngs to do before you die. >> tt'kind of like me trying to takey wife out of a ml. >> i love it. she's going get u. she isoing to get you today. >> hopefully, she's not
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watching. >> tivo. up next psident obama in russia. the challenge of dealing with the count's president and th man many y is the real powe in the kremlin. plus, today's face-off. sarah palin, her future and the and we've also got a gat y. highligh video. msc is the place for politics. you haveueions. who can give y t the financial advice you neeeed? where will you finind thstability and resource to keep you ahd ofhis rapidly evolvivi world the e e tough questions. that's whwhy we brought together two o of the st powerfulames in the industry. inoducing morgan stanley smith barney. here to rethink weal m magement. here to answer.... youruestions. morgan staey sth barney. a neweth management firm with over 130 yearars of experience.
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i'm bertha coombs with your cbs market ap. stocks end the day m mixed onwa street. the dow closing 44 points higher while the s&p 00 tackedn two points. the nasdaq was down nine. l prices took a tumble to five-week low as h for a quick economic recery are falling. l dropped 4% to about $64 a barrel. generamotors is looking to emerge fro nkruptcy protecti soon. the automakerll be lod to
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shed many of its costs and liabities. and a growing number of companies e leveraging e power of social networking all in an effort to improve customer relations. companies like jetblue, hold fast a using twitter to respond tospecific complaints and tailor products to umer needs. that'st from bc, first in business worldwide. now backo msnbc. >>welcome bak, everyone. i'mamn hall live in n york >> i'm david shuster live in washington. now to the big picture. ght years ago eayn his presidency, george w. bush thought he was gettg to know russn president vladimir putin and saidhe more i get to see his heart and sl, the more i know we can work tgeer in a positive way. it was according to analysts a dramatic misjudgment by president bush. today in moscow presidentbama met with russian president medvedev. afterwards presidentbama faced
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questions about his trust of russian counterpart. here is how president obama responded. >> throughout our interactns i found him to b stghtforward, profesonal. he is clear about the interests of the russi people, but he's also interested in finding out what the interests of the united states re, and we hav found, i in an ability to work togeth extremely effectively. so, yes, i trus president medvedev to not only listen and to negotiate nstructively, but also to followhrough on the agreements that are contaed here today. >> the personalelationship betweemr. obamand mr. dvedev was just part of the intrigue today in moscow. the leaders announced a framework for arms control agreements now tohe bigger picture, that framework foar control.
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it came with the current u.s./russian treaty s to expire indecember. but now they hav signed a preliminary deal to reduce their countries' stopile of nuclear weapons by as mucas a third. e russians have also agree to allow e u.s. to fly tops and weapons througrussia to afghanistan. joininus from washgton is ambassador steven piper acting director othe center of the united states and europe at the bookings instute. his foreign service career includes 25 years at state dertment and servg as ambassador in e ukrae. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. i'm happy to be with you. >> it's a pleasure. what do you ma of this compromise we saw today? manypele expected it, but obviously a powerful message hearing the presidt today. >> well, this understanding o ducing stregic nucle forces is a good step. if you g back to 1991, the s.t.a.t. treaty allowed each side 6,000 weapons. the 2002 treaty signed by presidents bush and putin
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lowed each side 2,200 now we're talking about a reduction 25% to 35%. that's good news. the presint said basically you have to be a lead tore the world, eeclly a world that uld have north korea and iran both working on their nuclear progms. how does this message resone beyond what we see in thi picture here? >>well, on a broade question of nonproliferation, i think what president obama is saying is that unless the uted stes andrussia, whichetween them have between 90% and95% of the nuclear weapons the world, if the uned states and russia are not reducg thei arsenals, how they credibly ask other countrieto push back against efforts byountries such as iran and north korea to proliferate nuclear apons? e see the two gentlemen walking in. the president medvedev and president obambut you know the bastory, many have speculed who is reall in crge? is h putin? is hethe puppet master he? we say the president met with his counterpart? is that a fair assessment o what happened? >> this is one of those issue
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that is the united states can't solve. presidt medvedev is the otocol person -- is t appropriatpeon at the protoc level for president obama to meet with, and that should be his maininterlocutor. at the se timehe fact he's meeting tomorrow withrime minister putin is a logical step givenhat in this tandem relationship with medvedev and putin, they sharepower. so talking to thoth makes senseven though medvedev is the appropriate interlocutor for the president. >> howill this meeting phaps withutin tomorrow play ou in the media becse of his per anthe perception of powernd he's very well-liked despite what others may s around t world. he is liked his cotry. >> that's certainly true. he's very popular in russia, but i would not see too much into this. it's not clear- there's really no evidence to suggest that on questions regarding relatio with the unitestates that there'any difference between medvedev and putin. so i don'see president obama as tryg to drive a wedge between the two.
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he's having logical discusons with both. >> interesti. well, thank youery much, ambassador, for yo insight. it was great talking to you today. thank you. >> happy to be here. so, 2k5i6dade, you kn, it isan interestin dynamic of howthe world might sea leader and how th leader is seen by hisown people. it will be cious to seeow the mea plays it out. someeports say president obama received a clly reception. rtainly not what he has receivedn europe and oer parts of theld when he travels. yeah, and these meetis are interesting on so many levels en youthink about the bipolar wod that largy exists. u.s.ussian relations are still huge and somemes still fficulto pull apart and put ome perspective. seeing the leers in theame meeting roomis always fascinating. another sty out there, former mayor of whington mari barry dying charges he
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stalli stalked a woman. he was on probation for faili to pay taxes. today his attney said the charges have merit >>e believe that the charge is baseless. we belve th t charge stems fr a persal relationship that has gone horriblyrong in a lot of ways and has sulted in oneparty to that lationship strin out a mr. barry. >> in 1990 ding his third term as d.c. mayor, he was videotaped smoking crack in a hotel room. i'll never forget the he flipped f a reporter and said we're number one. what a career -- >> you jt don't forget those moments in your life, dav >> up next -- sorry for jumping the gun on that video a highlight reel of sarah palin's greatest hits fromheall mpaign to friday's resignaon speech. you don'want to miss this video tribute. it's a goo one.
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wewelcome ba to msnbc, the ple for politics. en sarah palin annoued on friday that she was quitting the governor's officice before finishing her first term, it was remarkable.. even reblicans describebed he nenews c cferenc as riveting ough not in a goodod way.
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it was just the latest mont inlving palin that the polititical wod will not soo forget. ther haveeen many, soso here our tributute. ♪ sara sarah,torms are brewing in y your eyeyes ♪ >> governors doknow besst. ii know that i know that i ow. you kn, they sayay the differen between a hoey mom d ait bull, lipstick. >> they caa h -- whwhat's at name t they call her? what do tey call her again?n? >> thatat would be caribou barb. >'ll ben charge of the turkeys,s, eah. extly what we're goingng to do in a p pin and mccain adnistration. i kw i'd like him wearingng his carhars, his steel ed boo. >> i told thee congress thankss but no thanks. thanks but no than. thanks but no than. thanksut no thanknk thanks but n nohanks on that
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idge to nowhere. ththk you. can i call youou joe ♪saraarah >> howre you feeling abobout the ecomy? and i'i'll bet y you' going to hear some fear. certainlyy wewe'llrobably get it for doing ththis, too. may i introduce toou my husband todddd palin. he is alaska's -- i i must saya your b btherteven is my favoriri baldwin brother.r. >> you are a delelight. ♪ no tii is a aood time >> it wowod be apatheticic to d of hunker down and go with the flow.. we're fisheen. we knoonly dead fish go withth the flow. ♪ iid it all for her > bravo to producer editor chris penny for putti that tother.
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taon, it's now tiime for today's ce-off. > so gue what we'e' talking ababout? can you guess? sarah palin. its certainly herr future, th rerepublicanparty,here she will stanand, and unlike thatt song,o is going t forg sarahalin? nonot liky, but does her f futue include ththe white hohoe? our fa-off toda democratatic strategist andnd former communications direcector for t edwards prpresidenal campaign and pbablyhe reieiing championon, chri kofinis and leslie adviser to george w. . bush. you u have to geget your glos o because chriss fights dirty. >> okay. >> w wre we go -- >> that's hi chchoice. >> rurush limbaugh, he had something to say abobout g gernr palin just a ahort time ago. hereres what he said. >> okay. >> i d't think this precludes her running for oice down t road, theresidency in 2012 at all. i think theseeeople saying thatt she's s an instant targrg becau she quit is just -- that's just inside theeltway formaic,
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and she's not that. all inow is that she's going to continue to fe up people in th conservative republblan base as oft as she speaks t to them. >> so, leslsle,ush also said he was perprpxed b her dision. whats your take on wh happeneded here? >> i nd agreeith rush. you know, sandwichch beeen chris anand rushs really just a great day. i wiwill tell u this,n the long term we donon know if s will movove from a lilitning d to a alightning force in the republican party.. she hasas trememendousumber of sitive you can't didiscounthe number of peop thateally are enerzed by whahat she bngs tothis pty and wh she reprents in terms of taking her own party for corruptiononthe tax and spend policy, energy indepennce, those types of things. but wititrespec to that, in thee short term i think there'e's a trtremendousmount of negatatity surrrroundinher decion, the way sh rolled out this announcement, and a lot of conserertives d republicans
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who e sappointed. there'no other way to s say it >> do you thk she has a future in the long term. i don'n't knowhere you draw th line her but one thg w we know this point at least joe scarbororoh thisorning thinks her futur might inclulu levision on fox news. is tha the way t to go for her? that's what hthinks. >> i i mean,t may be amart career movove becae i'm not sure she hamuch of a futu politics. if she wts to run fofo president, this was aut as b bad way to dot asouould imagine.e. i mean, i was thinking aboutt this t this weekend. her speech reminde me of bluto's speech from "animal house."" it was about that ininherent it didn't t makeany sense. a a t of republicans,s, both publblly and privively, jt wish she d doesn'tun for president. i'm nosure they'll get that wish.. i actually think whehe you realy kind o step backnd think about at she'srying to do here, , think she's acally going too out therere and try to build a movemenen d run for esident as kind of this intessential outsider candidate. i could not imagine anytng
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worse e for thehe republican pay or anythininbetter for the democric party. >> leslie --- >> i canan think o lot me things, hris. >> leslie there doeseem to be a lot of hypypocrisy with whatar sarah palin doeses. she t talks aut howe can learn somethg from the troroops, they don't ve up. th was at a newew conferencnce where she e wasiving up. she criticized the meddia, said they had been overerthe top an been toooo much, that was onene the reasons s she nded to stop.. here i is wh she saidabout hillary clinton n en hilry clintonn cricized the med. mia. >> when n i he a stament like that coming from a woman candidate with a kind of perceivedwhine about that excess ctitism r,r, y know, mamae e a sharper crcrospe put on r,r, i tnk, ma that dodon't do us any good. >> leleslie w wn is s ever going to be ablele toget awayay from the hypocrisy she's's areay thwn all over theplace? i think, you k know, while y yu focus on the hypocrisy, i i wi tell you thererss a lot ofpepele
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that wilill cucus on the posiveve i'll llll you thths,s, she's a talent who needs to o rereined. i'i'm notoing to -- > rs a d de fish.. >> o,o, not necessarily. yoyou owow, for all the people at want to put a nailin her coffffinththers just asas many people who b belveve that she c cocontueo build her crcrenen crenent edentials, her intellelectl l heft, and be a aiaiablcandidate. and as somemebo who followed her -- >> youannot be viablele candidate when youou we e a governor f f 2 1/2 yeaears and midstream yoyou deeci to quu and then tryy tosomehow paint t att as a irirtu that is n n a virtue. at is a weakness. >> chris, you know, wve seen reresuecectis of so o nyny candidates t thathould never have been resurrrrecte especially o onhe lele,, so i think we have to star with the fair game i in politics. uu just don'n't knowow >> namene that's been r resurrecectedd o the le that ws ccessful. >>ilill inton. >> h hhahad en governoror forte arars. are you kiddining ? >> you added the caveveat.
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inswered t t question before u said -- >> tt t s a hrible ananswer >> lt's put t this in perspective.e. you can't ddiscotthe aount of support she has amg g e base. there ararmamany -- >> this isthe r rubublin rty's problem. >> leii tell us ththis. how will thihis play out. u seem confident off h positives and all this giveve ua crystal b bllso we can ll you o out on this i i couplee years from no where do youhihi sarah p pal will end ? give us the 24 nths, where i i shgogog to b 24 months? >> i i thian intereresngng thin here is, you know,, iake her at her word with rereecect to why she's steppipingwaway from the post, but i i ha b bn talkingtoo publishers and somome editors w arareayayin look athat big advance that she couldn't take til she steppeday. her bokok a advce is anywhehere ththe a aa of - >>er pockets will b be fatter. 'v've t that. >> he pocketstsiille fatteter. the bottom line isis s h has too the hard work. shshtalked about beieing a poin guard anddvdvcing rsrsel
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abt you she leftt at halftime. shhas to go back and secure her base,e, show she's willing do the wk,k,nd see i she has the inteteecectu heft t to compe on a playing fieldld of stroong repupuicicanandidates. >> he e the dramatic failure ofararahalin. she sisits trere and talks s ab virtue. e sits there and tks about serving constitueuent serving e countntry. she's only clrlrly goioi to see e hersrsel thth i is st likely about monon. shshe nts to go out there andnd make money, but d't'tmamakehat out to b be a v vire thahasosom it's a higher c caing. itit isn't. she wawalk aw from h herhief responsibility, whichch is to govern aead h h state. chris,s, nobody dnies that that's a disappoiointgg factor. on the right esespealally. >> you can't't-- so think a aou ththis. you're goining to runor president, you cannot -- >> you c can' m mke the e excti that n no democratsave been thisoror money?? >> what i'mm saying is ifarah palin n wanttoto rurun for esesidt -- >> chrhris an leslie, we'll le
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you meet agaiainikik ali and frier, you can fight againin ototheday. ththanyou for your mm we reallllyppppreate it.. i think that's the incrededib thing abouousasarapalin, davd,d, is you c canetet a heated ararment, and that't's no becae they're ndndit but from annene, a dinner table. walk into a r resurant and yo can get aa h hated argument brbrinng up governonor sahah papali >> i have e fefeelg most of tht republicans whoo sa she is don, th a a right. i i anan,here are always g goi totoe e so republicans whoayay be just asaselusional as sara palin was onon friday,y, but may words, she w willnono get anywhe in 201 mark my w wos.s. >> y kno what?t? it is now ouou there.e. we'll see if david is r right >> up next, some e thin w w thought yoyou ououldnow. >> saddam's gun. titiger' ininteiew. d nbc political director c chu totoddas comompetition in the go-to departmtmenatat t white hoe. >> i hopope t tt's n my go-to you're talking about. ththent 5:00 m. eastern lawrence'd'donll is filling in
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thereris a lot g going o today. here are threeeehings top of everything else e we thght you shshld kno >> davivid, over the yearsany u.s. presidedents ke special mementos and george w.w. bush i no different.. when the library f f the 43rdr esident ops, vitors may b able to see one o ofis m mt treasured its,saddam huein's gun. e nine millimeter ock 18cc was found the spider hole where he was captptured i in dedember 23.
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soldiers l later preseseed that pipiol to then-presidedent bush. acrding to friendssand longngime associes. e gun came a reminderf the pinnacle momenent of the iraq . inresting reminder of ththat war. >> t only thing iish she also had was sadm hussein's scalp. sorry, that was aowner. >> it' a downer kind of ssry. this one is n not doner. tiger r ods isnown f foreing e of the best, i not the beses gogolfer er. and as i that's not enough,, he's nonow tryingo put som sportsts journalists out of wor. wah him intview himself f after winning th 2009 at&t&t national.. >> i always wantededodo this.. bear with me. so, t tiger, ho did youou play today? well, it was a tough day. got t off toind of a slow start, t hunterreally put the pressuren us. did he really did he. he st a 62. what did you thinknk aut that?
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well, youu know, i was - i alwa wanted to do that thank u. >> that's what ppens when you'regood. peoplele laugh at youour jokeke matter if -- >> absolutetely. and mine e not good.d. in mosow we spted whithouse prs secretary robert gibbsor ththfirst me in a w days and chececked ou the facial hair he grew over the holidaday ekend. it certainly loooo like 's gogor aoateer the chuck toddlook. one e white hoe aide confifirmi the deliberatat gababs' faibbsb hair wonders aboutut a budding broman. those arare just a few things w thought you shshould know.w. >> is hfolliclely challengng? >> that goes our interview, tamron. oh, no. >> y've gotsome explainingg to do i like theheair though.
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let's get to our nt read on polititics with e stories wewe' bealking about into tomorrow. >> and i guarantee y we will nobe talkingbout an obamama interview anytimime soon. mark murray is d deputy litical director for n nbc nes. ma, what do you have foror us? >> hey, david and tamron. gibbs certainly hass a longway to go befofore h gets to chuck' level on thehe goate a long way to go. on his second daybroad in russ, president obama will l be meetining withrime minister vladimir pututin as well as forr sovieteader mimiail gorbachev. also democratstset thr th vote in the united states senat when al frankenen gets sworn . weaven' talked much about rk sanford but the south carolina govererr isgoing tond up getting a d decisionrom the south carolina r republin part the sououth carina gop will beb meetingg later toght to decide sanfnfd's fate, either admomonishinhim, asking him to resi, or doing nothi.
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we'lfind out ler tonight. >> what are the are e viewss fr the presesident's visi to mosw. much hasas been made that he di not rececee a reption f fom the people. >> it is a d dferent environment. obviously, he isn'n'a rock star we saw h himn europe earlier this year or in oher countntrie. but itit's still veryryearly. he'soing to be abrbroad ovevethe next severalal da and totoy was just one step. tomoow is going to be the momore interereing dain my opinion. today he waseeting with president medvdvedev,ried to get ththat rig. i have h had a hard time pronououncing s last ti. >> how do yay it? >> medvedev, i believe. that'she texan in me. it's a little harder. vladadirputin, eveone will be tching that. obviously, h his t person whwho is mang things run in russia right nowow. >> mark mururray, nbc news dput litica director. mark, ththanks a always. appreate it. ke sure to chk out fit readad firsthing every morni. it's updated throughout the da. lointo firstread.msnbcbc.com tamron, welcome baba. we missed you. >> imi

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