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next on msc sunday, the cia's secrets ou is a counterfric program congress suld have been told about,ay some. but is former vice president

chen to blame for keeping it hien? a live report straigh ahead. there's new key evidence in e case of a murderedorida couple. sehow a red van cld actually lead pole to the kler. andt's the rampage in pamplona. another bruising y unfolds in the rning the bulls. what's with all the talk about a seco economic stulus? warren buffe wants it. what about the president? is it really necessary? good morning, everybody. i'm norah oonnell in for alex tt. we'll brinyou all that, plus the lates devepments in the michaejackson case and the shuttlcrew keeps an eye on mother nature. >> but first, her in washington, big news. were learningw details on the top-secret cia program tat congress didn't know about for eight years. nbc news has learned the program was kept u wraps because then-vice president dick cheney ma it clear that he didn't want congresso know about it. i'm join from white hou by nbc ns correspondent mike,

the democrats say tis morning they want an inveigation by congress. t? >> yes, they do, norah. let's back upnd tell what you we're talking about. in the aftermath of 9/11, t cia end tremendous pressure to enhance its counterterrorism abilities gan this plan. point never bame operational from everythingweknow but thi plan haseen ilemented and planned over the course of the last eight years. we're told vice president dick cheney, none oth than the ce president hims wanted t keep congress in the dark about these plans. th came to light just last ne 23rd, just a fewweeks ago when leon panetta, now the direct of central intelligence was told aboutit. the very next day he went up to congress, told th what would have been kept from them and told them that he had nid the whe plan all togeth, norah. >> what about this othe inresting report toy about the attorney genera eric hoer, reportedl considering a criminal prosecu to

investigate the bush administration and so of those interrogations that some people called torture that tookplace. will that lely haing? >>el this sort of come out of the blue hereand "the washington post" and "newsweek" both reporting multiple srces yi holder is actually considering going forrd and establisng an investigation, we could call it a truth commission. a truth commission isomething hous speaker nancy peli s endorsed the idea of however, other leaders, including nonether than the president of the united states, have said it is not something that they wouldfavor. very interesting that the oma appointee, the atrney general now,ric holder would be considering establishing some sort of investigation t go back and look at torture during the course othe la eight years, norah. >> mike, talk about the politics of thi you know the hill s wel some are suggesting today, whether it is congress investating cheney trying to conceal this cia gram, or oking into, of course, the bush administration's torture

tactic that the republicans say that's a way to deflect attention fromemocrats pea's mistakes up on the hill. >> first, look athe torture investation. the senate ielligence committeis already doing methingalong those lines that's expected to take as much as a year. that's something harry reid, the democratic leader ithe senate, and the adminiration have pointed to. on the cia, this really plays into what happened two months ago with nancy pelosi who came out and accused t cia of sleading her,essentially saying they lied to us, not only in the instance of terboarding, the central issu at the time, but all the time, nancy pelosi says. now comes this revation from leon petta which provoked letter from many demrats on the housentelligence committee calling for an investigation and caing foreon panetta to specificallyo public and y, yes,he cia h misled coress. this is a soce of obviously great controrsy. not only is a matter of policy but as a matter of politics, rah.

>> no doubt, mike. thanks so much from the wte house. for more on today's to stories from c's politil unit, logon to first read dot msnbc.com. a swim club in one philadelphia suburb is still knee deep in troued waters. a class action mpint has beeniled against the club baseon allegations ofracism. the lawsuit target the valley swim club in huntingdon valley pennsylvania. an african-american clas her four cldren were died swimming priviles cause of thcolor of their skin. suit also says othe campers heard club members make racist remarks. president of the club's boardf directors has apogized and said there was a "misunderstandg." florida investigators working n-stop to try to solve the bruturder of a pensacola couple. this morninghey say they're getting pretty close. big break came satday when seral tips led them to a red van rembling one seen on the surveillance veo leaving the

cole's home at the time of the muer the couple w shot dea thursday night while nine of their chilen were in the hopingslping. c's mark potter joins me now live from pensacola. i understandnvestigators interviewed twpersonof interest saturday. what can you tl us about that? >> rorter: hi, nora thre indeed classified right nows persons of interest. they are being interviewed, not interrogated. they are not arrested at this point. they areot in custody. but the sheriff said the investigation isoing along very well. the discovery of th red van was huge f them and so he sa do not b surprised if they come out here in a few hours fr now to announce at least one rrest, if not o. they think they arehat close to it at this time. they are also looking for a third man wh is also bieved toe been involved ithe killg of the parents of thos children at that house west of pensacola. but as yet thatrson has not

been identifi. norah. >> mak, inderstand that nine of the couple's children were at me at the timeof the shootings. hove you heard about how those children are dog? >> it's got to be rough on them we are to that they are in the hands of relatives, they a being kept together in one location, no being separated, in an undisclos location. there is a lot of sympathy this community for them. we heard idea about a really s exchange between one of those children and a bus driver, that y telling the driver how much he missed his mom and dad. >> mattw told me tt his mom and daddy were shot and killed and hedi't have a mom and daddy anymore. i told him they'd ways be there. he'd just look up to heaven and if he wanted to talk tohem he could talk to them like lt twinkling star. >> reporter: meanwhile vestigors continue t develop eviden, to sort

through materi to see if they have enough ence to bring those arrest harges. that under way. we'll be standing by here for you, norah, shld the sheriff come out to make the announcement that we expec to back to you. >> mark potter, thank you so much for that. nearly 5,000people packed a coliseum in mississii to honor the life oforr nfl quarterback steve mcnair. a funeral service was held for the 36-year-old this weeke at the university of southern mississippi. vel football players spoke during the serce, including some of mcnair's former teammates. police say it appears mnair was shot and killed on july 4th by his 20-year-old girlfriend who th kled herself. toda illino police are expandg their investigation into a gruesome grave digging scandal. a histor blaccemete ouide chicago desecrated in at authorities say was a money makischeme. today the burr oak cemetery in alsip is now officiay declared a crime scene and completely osed. the thousaof familymembers

hoping their loved one graves re left alone is now not lowed into the cemetery. the ok couy sheriff has least 000 grave sit can be affected. >>one wants tonow that more than me. i can'tell y how much i want to hold se woman's nd other shouldernd say, listen at the end of the day wll get you here andyou can have peace and resolution. >> four former eloyees stand accused of mping or dismembering as many as 300 unearthed corpses in a seme rell the plots that netted them hundreds of thousands of dollars. the cemetery ha about100,000 grave sites and is the final resting place of civil righ era lynching victim mett till d blues singer dinah washington. today a new line of potentially dangous thunderstorms are on the move ross the midwes and central plains. eyewitnesss in bu kchanan, ohio y a tornado hit the town

saturday. five people were injured. in lon, utah, police have called off theearch for a missing mother and her two children. authorities believe t family were inside their homen it collapsed saturday. heavy rains caused a nearby canal to rupre triggering flooding and mudslis in the family's neighborhood. city fire chiefsaid the eth above thhome is jst not stable enough to have sear and rescue crews on site and they are no switching from a rescue mission to recovery. in central florida, flooding. resints say the rain came down so fast, roads soon stard to look me like rivers. for more weaer news, checkut our website, wther.com. >>now to the latest on the space shtle "endeaur." nasa mnagers now gifth gre light for tonighs liftoff. what a difference a daymakes. ere were a series of lightning strike near the launchpad that causedhuttle managers to cancel saturday's launch. let's get the latest fro nbc's y barbrerr.

i guess its a green light. >>hose lightning strike happenedwoays ago so they took yesterday as an digsal time they nded to check outll the lightning sikes to make sure nothing s damagithin the shuttle system. they didhat overnight. theyayhey're ready to go. everything is tiing right along as it should be. the biuel tanks half full. th got another hourand a lf. once they get that filled that will tell them whether orot they'll have other height gin leak. ty think they ha it fid. they've tried a test on that. ere shouldn't be any prlem. if the thunderorms stay ay during atemite window that stts at 7:08 p.m. eastern ti, then they will launch the shuttle just before 7:14 p.m. eastern time, the middle of that wind. it will be off on the longest construction missi yet for shtle -- 1 das, fve space was planned, norah. they have beginning today, eight

re flights to the before they retire theshuttle. >> pretty interesting, jay barbr barb thanks souch. still ahead, warming up the hot seat forudge sonia tomayor's confirmation hearing. is there anying that could derail her nomation? the ste of the stimulus. esident's pledge for patience and a call for a secondping of stimulus dollars. going for broke. nation's largest state takes out the budget awhwhilit shellss out iouus. you're watching msnbcunday. ♪ don't know much ♪ but t know i love you ♪nd that may be ♪ all i need ♪ to know nnnocer) custorsrs lovge aircraft e engin

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prident obama will be in new york later this weeko delir the keyno address at the naacp's 00th anniversary celebration. group's predent tells us it will be a historic event to have thenation's first black prident address the nation's first civil rights group. >> having a black man in the white hose, finally ending this 233-year-old colorbarrier on the white house is trendous and it is the rult of 50 years sng. >> we're joined by the reverend al sharpton, president of the national action network. reverend, thanks s much for joinus. >> good morning. good morning. >> a lot of people are saying what is the mission now of the naacp? in answe that question, if there is now the firstlack president, what does the naac

do? is the strgle for civil right over? >> i opened the keynote this morng. i said t struggle was for equalitynot just having people in high posions. i think it is a tremendous achievement for the country and black americathat predent obama'there. bute still are unequalwhen it comes to the ecomy, blacks have a higer unemployment rate than whites. we'reill unua in heal care, education across the board. until we close theace gap a life inmerica for blackss the sames it is for whites an others, weave not achieved civil rights yet. >> reverend, y talkbout that divide. numbers areaggering when you look at the unemployment numbers. 14.7% blac of unemployed compared to 8.7% of whites. do you believ thatresident obama is doing enougho talk about the dide that still exts? >> i think tha president obams doing enough to deal

with the divid i think sometimes in doing what you need todo,he knows tat there arose of us that are going to talk about it. he, i think,as said enough about it, but he isnot a civil rights leader. he's the president of the united states. i think it is the job of advocates, whether it in labor, whether it' in civil rights or in any other ar, to do the tlking to try and set the climate for peopleo do the doing. i think that is whathe prident has so far tried to do. >> you know, reverend, i want to get yoake certainly on what's happed in pennsylvania, this allegation that a grou black schl children wre turned away from a largely wte ol. i mean it broke my heart. it shocked me when i heardbout this story and potential racist remarks madeyther people at that pool. what's yourake on that? >> i mn it was stunning and troubling. we have a chapter looking into

this. what troubled me more an anything, these are children, these arekids. the psychic -- potential psychic mage of those kids hearing someone saying tey could llute water or change the color of the water, to grow up with at, that is what is most troubling to me. i think that , "a," have to be ir andake sure th we understand,it was in fact racially motivated,s all appearances say it is, and the deal witit. but i think beyond the rar suspects, as one says, of peoe like m coming in that ve been called on, we've got toeal th theact that people around this count oughto look at, we have t stop doing this to children. >> i totally agree wityou. you at least start to thinkat you see it certainlyn my generation. people just don't see race the same way that theydid ross my parents' generations or in our grandparts' generations. eres less and less racism. to kids utter the things is just shocki and disturbing.

something th naacp president said, on the one hand we see the image of a black man getting off air force one. on thether hand w see ptos of kids geing turnedway from the swimming ol. we can't be post-racial until we are st-racm. and til we get there, we will be on the watch. what doe post-racism an? post-racial mean? posracism is what i refer to. until the average back child born in amerioday faces the same possibility inmployment and alth care and education across the board, as the average whitchild, then we'reot there yet. so we are a whole lot bett than they were, there is no question about it. but life i still not equal as you have quotedhedata. until life is equal,e're not theryet. i think that's the commitment of this neration of civil rhts leaders tolose the gap. now we certainly dot hav as muchap as those ahead of us

did, but t say that the gap is not there ihink isnot t be telling the truth. >> allright, reverend al sharpton, reverend, good to see you on this sunday morning. thanks somuch. > and toashingn ow. a new reveti about the seet cia program kt under wraps r eight years. nbc news has learned vi president dick cney didn't wantails of the program to come to light. he made clear t the cia. i'm join now live by instigative reporter michael isikf for "newsweek." miael, we don't still yet know, i guess, about wha exactlyisecret program is. but what do know about why the former vice esident wanted to keept secret f congress? >> well, i clearly think this addional disclosure ratcts th wholehing up, as you know this story broke mid-week when the mocrats on t house intelligence commiee said that

the cia, for a piodrom right after 9/ until lastjune, last month, had kept concealed significan actions by the cia, d this led m d misled members of congress by not disclosing this proam. there was a back-and-for between publicans and mocrats and some agency official trying to down play this story suggesting that the prograhad never become lly operationa it was not as significant as the democ on the house intelligce committee were suggesting iwas. but with the additional disclosure that vicpresident cheney had specifilly directed the cia n to share the information out this with congress, thatlely suggests this was a much more snsitive and perhaps somethg program than some were initial suggesting. so i tnkthis, as said before, ratchets this thing up.

senator durbin this morni saying congresseeds to inigate. i think at that'sore likely now than it was a few days ago. >> ofcourse, the chairwoman of the senate intelligence committee, sat dianne feinstein, also saying this morning that the bush administration may haveroken the law if it oered the cia to coeal this program. did th bush administration-- i ess this is a question -- did security act 1947 which requires to the executive branch keep congress fully and rrently informed o intelligence activities? >> well, look, without knowing exactly what therogram is and wh the context was is impossible to say this point. you know, the rules on this can be very murky, although they seem to be in black and white. what national security requires is covert action. now some at theia have said that this wa not fully

opional so tat the full covert action plan mayot have been implemented, although aprently aspects itwere. 're in a murky are of how far along this program was and that would igr a disclosure. we reported lt week cia director patta has ordered an internalrobe as to why thi wasn't disclosed, a so i think at going for factor very significtly into this. >> yeah, it's apparently now ordered closed do by panetta. even though it wasn't fully operational. thatakes sense. michael isikoff withnewsweek," thank we appcie it. new developments th morning in the michael jackson case. that incdes word about his rmer wife and the upcomin custody hearing. you're watching msnbc sund.

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repoing debbie rowe, the ex-wife and biologicather to 2 of miael jackson's 3 children plans to attend a july 0thustody hearing. a lawyer for t jackson family says micel's mother ktherine jackson androwe are now privately and amicably tryingo resolve e custody issu lisa, good to see term. but it is also the common sense term, what's the bt thing for these three children now. i'm guessingit looks like som form of cuy f katherine.

visition rights for debbie rowe that's not the end of the world either. an optimist would say she's looking restore her relationship with the children in lightof michl's death. >> it is vy interesting. now of course we're hearing from joe jackson of course, michael ckson's father, michael jackson had aeged that his father abused him. nojoejackson is talkg about that "katherine and i" should raise them. is there any indication michael did not want his father involved in the raising of thcldren? >> boy norah, i think there is every indication michael didn't wa his father invved in the child raising. he namedis mother custodian, t father. think this isn't th different tn custody hearings ich are always fairly complicated for regular people. but ithouldn't dissuade a judge sed on the evidence to awardustody to therine if at's how itcomes out. joe may want a role in the children's lives. he may not get what he seeks. >> we know that according to th

will that the childrent, i believe it was, 40% of what's left of michael jackson's estate who then cntrols that money for the children while they're still minors? is it katherine jackson or is it someone else? >>t looks like tre is gog to be more skirmishing about that. it looksike it oughto be the executors of the will. you remember katherine's lawy postned a decision about that as well. what should happen in the normal trust is therusthould be set up for th children. what you want is soone who's disinterested, not necsarily related to michael or the children who can make mewhat sinterested, sensibleogical decisions that are really again in the children' best inrests, especially with that ch money at stake. >> no doubt, lisa een, our legal xpert. lisa, thanks so much. at the top of the hour, msnbwill bng you the dontary, "living with

michael ckson" with includes the interview which led to jackson being put on trial for moleation arges. atoonastern r here on msnbc. to politics now, sarah palin'sesignation still making e talk on the sunday talk shs. on "meet the press" this morning, pretty interesting. david gregy, and senator john mccain got into an echange over alaska governorarah palin's gnation. what didsked the senator whatpalin's reans were for leaving office. >> how could she be see? how could she mostffectively e ask and the coury? that was r -- >> but senator, you have a putation of personal and pressionaloughness and stick-to-itiveness. you sought the highest rolin the land, president of the united states. you never quit. >> i don't think she quit. >> she made a promise to the voters to serve out her term. didn't she? >> i don't know if there was quote, promise. bui do know that she will be an effective playe on the national stage >> senatomccain also said he

was a bit surprised b governor palin's announcementecse she didn'tall him to inform him of her decision to step down before mang her public statement. of course, y can watch "mee the press" when itreairs 2:00 p.m. eastern this afternoon right hereon snbc. it's aigeekend for "bruno" from the catwalk to t top of the box office. >> o my gosh. you got to be out of your mind. >> what is d and g? >> dolce and gabbana, hello >> some critics question t style. tom, good morning. i he not seen th movie but i heard you and tamn taing about this morning. i understa it is raunchy.

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to litics now. and w this morning, even though unemployment is the rise, president obama is defending the stimulus plan today in a new "washingtonost" op-ed. the president wres -- i'm joined now by danny diaz, republican stratist and foer republican national committe spokesman d kare finney, democrat strategist and former communications director for the democrat national committee. great to have both of you. nny, let me ask you. thereside says have some patience he. it's going to tasome me. why don't you give it the time to let the stimulus plan work. >>well, what we're seein is unprecedented debt and we seeing economic initiatives that aren't having the desired effect. we've lost 2 million jobs and appearthat ts administration don't have its eye on the ball. it talking about a health care bill that doest create jobs, a cap and trade bill, which is the largest tax increasen american history, a doesn't create

jo, d you talk about that "washington post" op-ed, nowhere in it do i see that he talks about the tax burden o small businesses or families. so, ihink his policies aren' woing, and i don't know that they he their eye on the ball. their charge was to f the economy. thus far, they have not goen a od grade. >> karen, you want to respond to that? i mean, you know the republican argument, o, made byhe hou minority whip, ericcantor, that this admistration promised jobs immediately. true? >> yeah. ll, here's -- omisedhat we would th create andave obs. but i in we have to ke a st back and look at the full economic picture that we had when president obama came in ofce. the economy ino loner in free first of a fall and there was a three-pt process. first, stilize the banks. we've done that. second, deal wit t housing market and the houng cris. we've started to dothat. then it's let's look at the onomy, pass the stimulus package, a packat some criticize not being enough, some said too much but probably

just about right. we're seeing the rate of jobs lost is slowing. e of the reass obviousl we have to talk about reforming our health care systems we know it's krip blg american businesses so on't deal with that problem it's going to continue to ipple our american businesses. and remember, thelan is aout 130 days, 140 daysold. it took us eight years to get into this ss. it's going to te longer to ge out of it, and io think it's for t american peop, while it's very ugh, and oiously if you don have a if you're suffering, of course it's hard to y, okay, i'm going to be patient. but unfortunately, that's what we have to do. we'r seeing stimulus money go out the door,nd i think eye going to tryo celerate that over the next several weeks. >> karen, but what about the president's appral rating?? i mean, h he at 58%.%. obviously, there those a a g gre nuerers,ut that is down bit. amongndndepdents hhss lt six points, dodown t 53% a apoval fromom 5959%. i mean, should the whihitehoe,e shshldld i political team b be concerned abououtthis downward trend?

y y know, i thhinhehere a balance always innhhin like this. t t one hahansure, i i mean, e e litical folks have to ss,, you know, they havave t te a lolookt those numbers and certainlnly mindful ofof them. atheheame time, look at the y president obama ranis cacampgn. his wholee campaign wasththeyad strategy that k keheir eye on theball, you know,,ndnd ty were notot swayed,necessssary,yy the f fluuauaons in the polls.s. you can't fix ouour ecoconoc c problems basedednn fluctuations in the plllls so, t theve got to stick to the pnn thaha they put forward. anand think that's, you knonow, the strategy w we' pupurs. >all right. karen finnnn,, danny di, , grt h havboth ofu. thks so much.. >> thanknks, normama. >> that w wra up ourive m mbcbc sunday coverage.e. but stay with us f foreaeadle updates and breaking news it happens. coming up next, the documentar "living withth michaelackson." i'i' norah o'nnnnell. have yourself f a great day. where will you the stability and rece to keep yoahead of this rapidly evvi world?

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