beau bergdall. with the 4th brigade combat team of the 5th infantry division. originally the pentagon and military requested media outlets not to distribute or air the name of this soldier, bergdahl. it was afraid that would feed into the enemy. the taliban. perhaps put that soldier's security at risk. now that the tape is out and bergdahl himself identifies himself on the tape, the defense department decided that they at this time could release his identity. he disappeared from a forward operating base in eastern afghanistan on june 30th, and declared captured by the taliban a few days later. now in this tape, although he appears to be in good shape, what's disturbing about it is what he says. he says he's scared. he's scared that he'll not be able to come home and that he

then asks that americans bring all u.s. troops home. but he's clearly under duress and on the video itself, you can actually hear his captors in the background prompting him about what to say. >> your message to your people. >> yes. to my fellow americans who have loved ones over here, who know what it's like to miss them, you have the power to make our government bring them home. please, please bring us home so that we can be back where we belong and not over here wasting our time and our lives. >> now the pentagon and u.s. military are condemning the release of this video claiming the soldier is being used for propaganda purposes. there's still some mystery surrounding his original disappearance. military official say it appears

that bergdahl simply walked away from that forward operating base without his weapon, without his body armor and once outside the wire, as they call it, he was apparently snatched up by the taliban. >> thanks very much, mick. to colonel jack jacobs for a little bit of analysis particularly what you just heard mick say, that he may have just walk away without his weapon. what do you make of that? >> we were talking about it earlier after the previous segment. it didn't make a great deal of sense that he was separated from the patrol, because patrol members keep close sight of each other even in difficult terrain. there is a manner of electronic gear that makes it easy to take control of people. the conclusion that one draws is that he wandered off, which means that whatever duress he's under now, he was probably under some stress before he walked off. that kind of stuff doesn't happen very often. >> you're saying the way he answers some of these questions

would suggest that either there needs to be the training needs to be looked at, but it certainly is not consistent with what standard operating procedure would be. >> well, not only that. i think that one of the things that troops, leaders in particular, are trained to do is to keep their eyes out for soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines who are having a difficult time of it. there is a lot of training and training in identifying psychological problems, both among the leaders of an organization and the individual service members who are buddies of these people and they're required to make sure that the chain of command knows if somebody's having problems. this is something that should have happened in this case, i suspect. >> we also heard mick talk about the fact that they didn't want to release the name of this soldier but obviously once it was on the internet and once he said who he was, they couldn't protect it. but does it significantly make it more difficult for the united states to secure his release to get him back safe and sound?

>> no, i don't think so. what the military's doing now is trying to identify where he is. we have a lot of ways of trying to do that. the strongest way to do that is to gather information on the ground from human intelligence sources. that's how we get a lot of the information we require on the ground in afghanistan and pakistan, identify enemy locations. we're talking to lots of local people to find out where he is. if we do find out where he is, there will be a military operation mounted to try to recover him. but human intelligence is what we're after and whether we know his name, his name is public or not, is not relevant in this case. we want to know where he is and we're talking to people on the ground to find out where he is. >> colonel jack jacobs, thanks so much. new this hour, the secretary of health and human services pushing president obama's plan to reform health care. secretary kathleen sebelius appearing on this morning's "meet the press," she says the plan is still being finalize.

>> this is not ready yet. >> we don't have the bill even out of the senate finance committee. that's still under way. bipartisan effort that's going on. the house is is still on markup. this is a work in progress. >> so mike, according to secretary sebelius, what needs to be done to get health care reform passed? >> if you read the subtext what the secretary's saying and what other administration officials have been saying this morning and in the previous days, what's looming here is this august recess. the administration said they wanted bills out of both the house and the senate. by the time they go away for this august recess. they sort of set a trap for themselves. by the same token, they know members of congress only work most effectively under a deadline. now it appears this is just too doggone difficult and they may not be able to do it in any realistic fashion. there is a little bit of backsliding going on here. maybe not too much. maybe some administration officials would dispute that but it is going to be without a

doubt very difficult to get especially the senate to do this. also this criticism of the obama administration, if they're letting members of congress develop this legislation, that's simply because they didn't want to make the same mistake that the clinton administration made at the outset of the clinton administration when they sent up their health care bill. they wanted this to percolate up from congress. congressional leaders know best how to tinker with a bill to get it passed. the problem, again, this is a very high hurdle, a very heavy lift and they're having serious problems. >> so president obama will make this big pitch wednesday on national television. what can you tell us about the plans the white house is making? what's the message? >> well, it is a big splashy east wing press conference. a prime time press conference where all the networks will doubtlessly carry what the president has to say. this is consistent with what we have seen over the past several weeks as this deadline again is looming. it's virtually every day over the last six days we have heard the president impromptu statements, planned statements, campaign rallies and virtually every venue you want to name,

the president has appeared to tout his health care plan, to try to keep the hammer down, try to keep pressure on members of congress as these various plans make their way through congress at a pace that is really not satisfying for the administration, chris. >> mike, thank you. also new this hour -- the republican leader in the senate sharing some new reservations about supreme court justice nominee sonia sotomayor. senator mitch mcconnell of kentucky also appeared on "meet the press" this morning. he said he remains opposed to confirming sotomayor after her confirmation hearings. >> we're looking for judges here who are going to be as chief justice roberts said, an umpire, call the balls and strikes. what i worry about with regard to judge sotomayor is that her personal views which she's expressed quite frequently lead me to believe that she lacks the objectivity that you would prefer to have in a member of the supreme court. by the way, there's no appeal

from the supreme court. that's the last word. >> several other republican senators have said they will vote with democrats to confirm sotomayor. that should happen early next month. you can watch "meet the press" when it airs at 2:00 eastern this afternoon here on msnbc. we have details now on funeral and memorial plans for cbs newsman walter cronkite who died friday at the age of 92. a private funeral will be held thursday at st. par thbartholom church in manhattan. the church cronkite attended for several years. a memorial will be held next month in new york's lincoln center. the final resting place will be the cronkite family plot in kansas city, missouri. confusion over what caused two light rail trains packed with passengers to crash. witnesses said a train rammed into the back of a stopped train that was unloading passengers in san francisco. 47 people were injured, including the conductor of one

of the trains. >> driver's head was down. he looked like he was asleepd or tapped out. couldn't tell but he was not looking up. he was not slowing down or braking or no signals, nothing. you could tell he was not going to stop. >> san francisco's deputy fire chief says the crash is one of the largest multiple casualty incidents for that city in years. new details this hour on a shocking crime. six people, all believed to be from the same family, murdered in a two-state killing spree. tennessee authorities say five people were found dead in two neighboring homes in a rural area outside of fayetteville on saturday. a sixth body was then discovered at a business near huntsville, alabama. investigators say two of the dead are children. saturday afternoon tennessee authorities arrested 30-year-old jacob shafer of fayetteville and are charging him with homicide. >> this is one of the worst crimes in lincoln county's ever seen. this is a tremendous crime scene. >> police say they believe the

motive behind the killings is domestic. so far the victims' names are not being released. in italy, the trial for american student amanda knox is now in recess until mid-september. testimony for the defense this weekend wrapped before a two-month break. the pause illustrates a key difference in the american and italian judicial systems. a pause that's not sitting well with knox's parents. nbc's john yang joins us live from london with more. john, we're coming up what? on two years since this crime occurred. >> it has been two years. this trial has been going on since january. nearly a full -- almost beginning -- since the beginning of the year. of course there is another difference in that the trial only sits two days a week because of the way the italian trial system is scheduled. they do have this now two-month summer vacation. they'll resume in the middle of september. the prosecutor, the judges, the lawyers, will all get a time

off. of course, amanda knox will be sitting in jail where she's been since the murder occurred in november 2007. her parents who are divorced have been splitting their time, splitting the duty of traveling from their homes in the seattle area to italy to be with their daughter. they'll be there during these next two months and her mother talked about that to nbc's chapman bell yesterday. >> there will be a two-month break where everybody goes on vacation, except for us. we'll be sitting here waiting for two months. then we'll start up again. >> when the trial does resume, it will continue to be defense witnesses. they have been pounding away at the prosecution case, questioning the physical evidence, saying that the alleged murder weapon, what the prosecution says is the murder weapon, doesn't match the wounds on the murder victim. they're also challenging some of the dna evidence and that will continue once the trial starts up again in december. they expect a verdict no sooner

than november which will be the second anniversary of the murder. chris? >> john, thanks so much. much more ahead on msnbc sunday. tomorrow marks president obama's first six months in office. our political analysts weigh in on the president's accomplishments. some surprises. and what might be ahead for the next six months. plus, lunar landing. marking the 4th a 40th annivers the first moonwalk. what's ahead for the future of the space program. you're watching msnbc. come on . you're invited to the chevy open house. where getting a new vehicle is easy. because the price on the tag is the price you pay. you'll find low straightforward pricing on remaining '08 and '09 models. including eight that offer an epa-estimated 30 miles per gallon highway or better. now get an '09 cobalt xfe with an epa estimated 37 mpg hwy for under 15 thousand after all offers. go to chevy.com/openhouse for more details.

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investigators in indonesia are zeroing in on the fugitive leader of a southeast asian terrorist group as the main suspect in friday's bombing of two luxury hotels in jakarta. we'll get the latest from nbc's

ian williams in thailand in just a few minutes. secretary of state hillary clinton is visiting mumbai and new deli today. the start of a three-day trip to india. clinton urged india and other countries to do who are to tackle terrorism and global warming. ousted illinois governor rod blagojevich trying his hand at becoming a radio talk show host. blagojevich will host a two-hour show on wls-am in chicago both today and neck sunday. the program director says personalities on his station are compelling, opinionated and often controversial. he said the ousted governor has all those traits. msnbc is the place for politician. a milestone for the president. tomorrow marks the first six months of the obama administration. take a look at the latest gallup daily tracking poll. 60% of americans approve of the job president obama's doing. 33% disapprove.

for perspective, i'm joined by a.b. stoddard, associate editor and columnist with "the hill" newspaper. morning, a.b. how you doing? >> i'm well. good morning, chris. >> how's the president doing, do you think? 60% approval rating in spite of the problem frankly with the economy and problems with health care. what do you make of this 60% number? >> well, that's a great number. unfortunately in other polls we've seen recently his numbers are slipping. his job approval rate something definitely eroding. we see a very powerful trend in those polls in the last six weeks. that is a loss of support from independents. if barack obama loses the middle he's going to lose. he knows that. it's why he won the election. it's how all the elections are always won. particularly this mid-term elections coming up in the fall of '10 next year. barack obama's losing the middle

because of concern over deficits and debt in federal spending and the fact that what he did to address the economy, to pass an unprecedented $787 billion stimulus package, has not mitigated job loss and so he needs to work hard to restore his support with independents as he moves forward. >> how important is this speech, news conference, on wednesday then become? are we going to get an indication of how much political clout he really has, what's behind those numbers depending on what the reaction is to it? >> well, the reaction you'll need to see after wednesday's press conference is in the congress. to see if that press conference in a powerful strong show of leadership from the president this wednesday moves members of congress. it seems right now if you watch the way the democrats are reacting to this health care push, it seems that the republicans are winning the pr debate right now on health care, that they have created so much

alarm over the fact that the stimulus has been sluggish, it has not enough of it has been spent, it has not affected our job loss numbers enough. barack obama's administration couldn't keep the promise of the slims package would keep us at 8.5 unemployment or less. we're rapidly approaching the 10% line. texas like it will get worse next year. that debate over the stimulus and how effective it's been is driving the health care debate. on wednesday, barack obama's going to try to corral the democrats to hold together to be united and believe that there is enough momentum and support for health care among the american people that they should hang with him despite the fact that these assessments from something like the nonpartisan congressional budget office continues to say that their plan's on the table, don't control costs and will end up growing government. >> we were just showing video. i don't know if you have return there, showing video of the president who went out on a stump for jon corzine, the new jersey gom vernor who's behind

the polls. he seemed to be enjoying himself back out on the political campaign trail as we said in this case for corzine. but how cognizant are people of the fact that we do have the 2010 elections coming up or is it too early for there to be much worry about that. >> there's very intense focus. i'm up on capitol hill every week, i promise you, chris, as long as they see the republicans seeing an opportunity to campaign on the fact that barack obama's economic agenda has done nothing to relieve -- to relieve the trajectory of joblessness and is not growing the economy. we still see sluggish growth. we don't see enough revenue coming in to the government to pay for the democrat's plan. the democrats are also focused on 2010 and they see when they go home and talk to their constituents lots of concern about the cap-and-trade legislation that barack obama's administration's trying to push through the congress, about whether or not the hell care

bills can be paid for and they're very concerned -- you watch all those democrats and those moderate and swing purple states. they're very concerned about next year. the race is on, for sure, already. >> first six months now heading into the second six months. thanks so much, a.b. we want to know what you think. six months in? how would you grade president obama? vote by using your cell phone. text your grade 1 through 5, 1 being the highest, to 622639. that's 622639. standard text messaging rates apply. we'll be updating you on voting throughout the morning. remember that old song "oh, i wish i were an oscar mayer wiener"? that is the famed 27-foot wiener mobile wedged between the garage and deck of a southern wisconsin home. ouch. police say the driver crashed into the home when she accidentally stepped on the gas pedal instead of the brake. she said she had been trying to get a better view of nearby lake

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1-800-316-4954. today more tension in jakarta, indonesia. the four seasons hotel there was evacuated earlier today. on friday, two luxury hotels in jakarta were targeted by terrorists. now authorities are pursuing new leads that could help take them to those responsible. let's go live to bangkok and nbc's ian williams. what's the latest on the investigation, ian? >> reporter: well, thankfully, chris, that scare this morning turned out to be a hoax, although the four seasons hotel, a big luxury hotel in jakarta, had to be evacuated and searched carefully by anti-terror police. it is testament to the level of anxiety, the level of fear now in jakarta, anxiety among hotels who thought they had pretty good security against terror attacks and anxiety also among the

general public who thought they'd put this behind them. hotels and shopping malls had seen their security stepped up, and also there is a big search on for the safe house or safe houses where these terrorists may have hidden. now police say progress of the investigation is slow, but they say the equipment, the method, the type of explosive was almost identical to that used in the bali bombs back in 2002, the one that killed 200-odd people. another bally bomb in 2005. now it was so similar that this does lead them to believe that it's the work of ji, gentleman ma jamaah islamiah, the terror group that they thought they had had on the run. another piece of evidence that points to that is a raid a few days ago in central java that recovered explosive materials in a village. now the suspect who owned the house was also linked to a

splinter group from ji. so these little bits of evidence are starting to come together and point to a malaysian fugitive, who is one of the last remaining senior members of the ji still at large, an arch bombmaker and somebody they do consider to be very dangerous, chris. >> ian williams, thank you. take a look at these pictures. mother nature really lighting up the skies over albuquerque, new mexico, overnight. quite a spectacular display. part of the late stormy weather to hit the area. no injuries or damage was reported. it's been 40 years since man first walked on the moon. a landmark moment in american history. with the shuttle fleet getting ready to be retired, what's the future look like for our nation's space program? we'll talk about it next onma msnbc. [ birds chirping ]

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i'm chris jansing. there's breaking news. the pentagon has just released the identity of a soldier seen on video that appeared on a taliban website saturday. the soldier captured in afghanistan is identified as private 1st class bow bowe bergdahl. he's 23 years old. he's from ketchum, idaho. we first saw this video late saturday and it is the first sign of bowe bergdahl since he went missing june 30th. on the tape you can hear him being prompted to talk by his captors. >> your message to your people. >> yes. to my fellow americans who have loved ones over here, who know what it's like to miss them, you have the power to make our government bring them home. please, please bring us home so that we can be back where we belong and not over here wasting

our time and our lives. >> we'll have a live report from nbc's jim miklaszewski at the top of the hour. a new report in this morning's "washington post" sheds fresh light on cia interrogation techniques used to get some high-profile al qaeda detainees to talk. interviews with u.s. official suggest two men pushed the use of some of the harshest techniques but not without push back from other agents. joining us from our washington bureau is the national security reporter for "the washington post," good morning. >> good morning. >> give us some key points of what you found out as you reported this story. >> there was some push and pull that came from surprising places within the cia as the interrogation program was going forward, including from some of the interrogators themselves whose resistance to things like sleep deprivation and nudity in the beginning. when waterboarding started some interrogator revolted and said, after four, five days, they refused to do this, some

threatened to quit. some even insisted that the cia and top officials from washington to the secret site to watch it happening in order for them to continue. >> we had no idea there was this level of dissension. right? >> yeah. there's been some elements of this out in the press. there are some hearings that took place early in the spring in which some fbi officials talked about how they objected to things that the cia was doing. but some of the cia people internally also had problems with it and pushed back as well. we have this interesting tug-of-war that's going on between langley cia headquarters and places where the senior prisoners, al qaeda prisoners are being kept. >> pretty high level of prisoner. one of the ones a lot of people might have heard of, abu zubayd zubaydah. >> he was the first sort of star prisoner the cia had. up to this point the cia really hadn't had any major detainees. had been involved in the detention program at all. they were really starting from

scratch, looking elsewhere outside the agency for expertise and some help and they brought in these two officials that you mentioned who have some experience in sort of military survival training, and they helped design this program of harsh interrogation. but again, it was sort of a very divisive, contentious process that went back and forth for months and even the guys who designed the program eventually ended up feeling that it had gone too far. >> was there ever really a consensus though after we went through this period after the cia went through this period about what we will really did work and what didn't work? >> yeah. this is an issue that's going to be debated to the end of time. there are many people we talked to who work in the program who said that nothing really of substance came out of the program in terms of stopping actual plots. some will acknowledge that cia learned about parts of the network, they learned names, they learned the ways that al qaeda communicated with each other. but in each case, some of these people will say we could have learned these same bits of information from other sources.

so this is something that people will continue to talk about i think for many months to come. >> a fascinating article. extremely in-depth reporting from joby warrick. thanks for being with us. a tragic dent has marred today's 14th stage of the tour de france. a woman spectator was hit by a police motorcycle on escort duty while trying to cross the street. she died at the scene. two other fans were injured when the motorcycle skidded into them. pope benedict xvi made his first public appearance this morning since undergoing surgery for a fractured wrist on friday. pope looked strong as he led mass in a northern italian village. he did use his left hand, however, to shake hands with well wishers. not surprisingly. tomorrow nasa will mark the 40th anniversary of man walking on the moon with one simple step from neil armstrong, he had reached a milestone for all mankind. but where does the american space program go from here?

joining us is historian and curator of the apollo collection at the national air and space museum. thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> let me ask you first. tomorrow is the anniversary. what are your thoughts on this 40th anniversary about what man on the moon has meant for mankind? >> well, i think it's a terrific opportunity for us to look back and try and analyze what it is we did and why we did it and why we all agreed to do it and why congress continued to support it and what kinds of things we can collectively sort of get together and finish. and what kinds of things are not so easy to agree on. >> let's talk about where the next step might be. one of the suggestions has been that man needs to go back to the moon. what do you think the prospects are for that? >> well, the prospects of going back to the moon for the same reasons we went 40 years ago are

nonexistent. we went to the moon the first time almost a perfect storm of various factors that led to that. if we're going to go back -- and i think we will -- it will be for other reasons. it will be for combinations of working together with other countries, i think, of economic reasons. some of the similar reasons, if a desire to explore and to learn things scientifically. but history never repeats itself. >> one of the things that was said back at that time was there are so many other things that are more tangible in a lot of people's minds so that money could be spent on. i think today when we're in the economic situation that we're in, it is very difficult for nasa, which has already lost so much of its funding. it's half the size that it was back then? somewhere in that neighborhood? so what argument would you make for continuing manned space

missions? >> well, as a historian, i try not to make those kind of policy arguments so much as sort of watch and see what kind of arguments could be made. i think that there are a number of arguments that could be made having to do with developing technology, for exciting education, for encouraging people to go into technical areas, for the discipline that it gives to our economic system, our industrial base. incentives. they say about spending the money, none of money of course was spent on the moon. it was all spent here on earth. there's very little places to spend money on the moon. but it all depends on what you want to do and why you want to do it. >> it's going to be interesting tomorrow. isn't it? i understand all three of the astronauts from apollo 11 will be at the white house. we don't see neil armstrong very often out in public. >> no. he's going to be, as i understand -- and believe -- he's going to be at our museum

tonight giving the -- with buzz aldrin and some other people, giving a lecture that, if you go to our website, you'll be able to get nasa tv link and watch it. it's all sold out. no more room actually here. but you're right, he's not a very comfortable, i think, coming out very often for this kind of thing. >> i'm glad you mention that. give us the name of the website again so people can watch that tonight? >> www.nasm.si.edu. >> thank you very much, allan, has to be one of the most popular exhibits anywhere. thanks so much for being with us. >> my pleasure. after the break, an inside look at a groundbreaking new tv show, tracking an elite team hunting down an accused terrorist. but this isn't the latest episode of "24." this is real life.

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a group of 65 students from oregon are quarantined at a hotel in beijing because one tested positive for swine flu. school official say the student was briefly hospitalized but is now doing better. astronauts on-board the space shuttle "endeavour" are working inside the space station today after completing the mission's first spacewalk yesterday. the astronauts finished installing the third and final piece of a $1 billion japanese lab for the international space station. french first lady carla bruni made her american stage debut in honor of nelson man del that's birthday. she was part after star-studded tribute to the african freedom fighter. mandela could not attend the concert on doctor's orders. tracking terrorists and war criminals in real time.

take a look at what you're going to see in this new prime time program called "the wanted." it debuts tomorrow night, 10:00 p.m. eastern on nbc. no actors, no scripts but what viewers will get is an unprecedented look at how the manhunt for accused terrorists is going down. here's a little preview. >> i have eyes on from the back. >> let's go. >> he knows that we are on to him. 500 meters. >> i got him right up ahead. >> copy that. >> nbc will tell you this is not a made-for-tv movie but a global fight for justice. is it? joining me now the executive producers and co-creators of the wanted, charlie ebersol and adam sorols skchlt i. good morning, guys. we talked about the fact that it's been two years in the mafking. when it was the genesis of all this, adam? it's the kind of thing where you're taking people and tracking them. the issue of these people hiding in plain sight, cases that have

kind of gone -- they've been on the back burner. it was a natural jump from regular what i was doing, which was regular journalism, to teaming up with a team of guys with backgrounds in investigative intelligence, special operations command, diplomacy, international war crimes. >> let's lay it out for people who haven't read the copious news articles that have been written about this. who's involved in this and what exactly are they doing? >> we put together a team of four guys, adam being the journalist with a background in u.s. intelligence, david crane, the foremost u.s. international prosecutor, the first u.s. prosecutor since nuremberg to prosecute international war crimes. he took down charles taylor. roger carstens, he trained iraqi special forces. scott tyler, he was a lieutenant navy s.e.a.l. sniper. he did tours in afghanistan and iraq and a number of undisclosed locations.

basically the premise, thesis of the show, is look, if we take all four of these people and say you've been trained all of your lives to do one specific thing that you are really good at, if you do that one thing and you do it in conjunction with these other three guys, what can we get out of it? what if we look at it from a 360-degree perspective, can we see justice done? the thing is with terrorism the ultimate weapon they have is they hide in the shadows. but you can't hide in the shadows if you're on prime time. you're no longer faceless criminal or accused criminal. you're somebody who everybody knows their face. what if 15 minutes before 9/11 mohamed atta who's in florida had a camera on his face. could he have stood up on a plane and done something like that? no. >> to say you are a regular journalist doing regular journalism, adam, is kind of an understatement. you've been a high level in the business for a long time. you know, you've head, you've heard journalism professors, media experts, law experts, having a lot of issues with the way this program is being done. one said she was stunned when

she first read the premise of it. she thought in fact it was a satire in the onon, which is a very funny newspaper. what do you say to people who really question whether this is the role of a television network, of a producer, that this is better left to homeland security? >> well, i think the one unifying theme of the criticism that we've seen to date is that none of those people have actually seen the show. it's amazing to be criticized by people in terms of journalistic ethics who don't see something before commenting on it. >> i think as far as we're concerned -- >> didn't the department of homeland security question some of this and say it could hurt their chances of getting real justice? >> we screened it on wednesday for 500 people on capitol hill, in the capitol building, including top members of dhs homeland, top members of the department of defense, department of justice, state department, congress, senate, u.s. house intelligence, oversight, a number of other organizations. across the board, without

exception, everyone came back and said, one, we love the show, two, we want to offer you more targets because we think that you guys are really going to be at the forefront of stopping these people. and three, you guys didn't go far enough. it's not enough to just interrogate these guys. why didn't you reach across the table and kill them? in terms of our support from the u.s. government, we have been -- i think we've been shocked at how much they've come back to us and said, not only do we support what you're doing but we want to be involved, we want to help you. >> keep in mind, we're completely independent. we're not partnered with anybody. we go and do these things on our own and we reach out and say, this is what we found out, why isn't something being done about it? we found across the board that something does end up being done about it and that they come back saying to us, thank you. >> i'm getting the big wrap here but i want to ask adam, finally, obviously you guys would like big ratings, you'd like this to continue and be a big success. but bottom line in terms of impact what do you hope happens? >> we hope that we can shine a light on cases that have been on the back burner for years and

years for the u.s. government and several other governments. we've noticed consistently, episode after episode, this show has been a catalyst for government action. >> never an obstacle. reaction we've got frn our colleagues in journalism, and people in pentagon intelligence, it's been unbelievable. we all have a common goal -- we want to see justice done. >> charlie ebersol, adam ciralski, good luck. is this a guy show? >> every time we've test screened it, it tests better with women. >> i look forward to seeing it. thanks so much. watch the series premier of "the wanted" tomorrow night, 10:00 p.m. eastern on your local nbc station. we'll be right back.

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now to politics and the plight of the gop. a new gallup poll is shedding some light on who's at the top of the heat among republicans. former massachusetts governor mitt romney is in the lead in a

2012 presidential match-up among republicans. sarah palin comes in second, followed by mike huckabee, newt gingrich and minnesota governor tim pawlenty. let's bring in our political panel now. eleanor clift, contributing editor for "newsweek" magazine and amanda carpenter, reporter for the "washington post." eleanor, what do you think about these polls? obviously things have a way of changing over the course of three years, but it is fun to sort of prognosticate. are you surprised to see mitt romney up there? >> well, first of all, a lot of this is about name recognition. so i think names that people have heard do rise to the top. but i also think the republican party has a tradition of nominating the person whose turn it is. if you look at the field, mitt romney did make a valiant attempt in the last go-round. seems to me that he does more than any of the others sort of represent the mainstream of his

party where he can appeal to both the social conservatives and economic conservatives. i think his mormon religion seems still to be a bit of a hurdle, but actually he delivered a very compelling speech last time around. i think that every year that goes by as a country i think the voters, we do become more tolerant. so i think -- i'm not surprised that romney tops the list. >> what's your take on this list, amanda? it is interesting, a week ago i was at a dinner party and the topic of conversation was -- because sarah palin was in the news with her decision about stepping down as alaska governor, people were saying, right now john mccain might be president if he'd chosen mitt romney instead of sarah palin. what do you make of these numbers? is it all sort after beauty contest right now, name recognition? >> i wouldn't say that. i'm not surprised that mitt romney's at the top of this. similarly it's what you've heard. i've heard people say mitt

romney would really be a good guy to have in office right now given the current economic downturn. i think there is no doubt he wants it. he's been very deliberately meeting with conservative groups. his pac has been very active, raised more than $1 million in the first quarter of this year. so i don't think that his campaign ever ended. you will see him to continue to be active laying that groundwork so he can give it a go in 2012 again. >> eleanor, you wrote an interesting article on "newsweek."com about sarah palin. you share an interest in running with her but you used it to make a bigger point. tell us what that is. >> well, i think the bigger point is that this is a woman who does know something about endurance. anybody who's put in the number of miles she has running in arctic alaska weather knows something about endurance and stamina. how she will use that is another matter. i actually compare her to my friend and colleague pat buchanan who basically led the

culture wars movement in this country and is out there again sort of rallying voters in support of the voters who were left behind who are mostly white, rural voters. i think that's the same constituency that sarah palin appeals to when she campaigns and talks about the real americans. i think she could be a very divisive figure just as pat buchanan was when he was in politics more than he was in political commentary on television. >> amanda, it probably would have been instructive if i'd gone back six months into the second bush administration to see who might have been on the democratic list. i'm not sure where barack obama would have been on that. is there a name not on this list likely to emerge, do you think? does history tell us that there's something out there who's going to come on strongly we didn't expect? >> i do think republicans are hoping for that. i can tell you the people who i think republicans have been trying to keep an eye on hoping

you might see someone like that emerge, guys like eric cantor, paul ryan, people you've wanted to see break out of the mold. but lately the talk with those two is they haven't been against the big spending proposals as they might have hoped. maybe there's hope for somebody in the house to break out. i think that's where it would come from. if it did. because as bright as the governors looked six months ago, namely talking about mark sanford, doesn't seem to be coming from that bench right now. >> certainly not from south carolina at this point. amanda carpenter, eleanor clift, thank you both. coming up in our next hour, if you think taking a trip to vegas is out of your price range in these tough economic times, wait until you hear some of the airfares out there. airlines and resorts are slashing prices. we'll tell you some of the best deals. you're watching msnbc. gecko vo: you see, it's not just telling people geico could save 'em hundreds on car insurance. it's actually doing it. gecko vo: businessmen say "hard work equals success."

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