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plus more concern among democrats and the american public about health care reform. but what is it exactly that has them worried? and it's a high-stakes hollywood bidding war for the rights to michael jackson's final rehearsal video. we'll tell you where the biggest bidding begins. good morning, i'm chris jansing in for alex witt on this sunday. 11:00 eastern, 8:00 pacific. here's what's happening right now on msnbc sunday. first the breaking news we told you about in the last hour. the pentagon releasing the name of the soldier seen on this video which appeared on a taliban website late saturday. he's being held captive in afghanistan. for the latest, i'm joined live by nbc pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski. >> reporter: the pentagon now confirms that this soldier seen in the video is in fact a missing soldier from afghanistan who disappeared from a forward operating base in eastern afghanistan at the end of june and they now identify him as 22-year-old private 1st class

bow bowe bergdahl of ketchum, idaho. now the military had anticipated for a couple of weeks now that we'd soon seen a video. they were not taken by surprise. and what is surprising is that bowe bergdahl actually appears in pretty good shape as we can see here. he doesn't appear to have any injuries, any wounds of any kind and appears, like i said, in overall good shape. what's been disturbing to those who have seen this video is what he said. he said he's scared that he'll never make it home again. then he went into sort of what could be considered an anti-war kind of statement in which he said that the american people have the power to bring all u.s. troops back home. but -- but -- he's under duress and clearly being being prompted by some of his captors in the background, as we will hear. >> your message to your people.

>> yes. my fellow americans who have loved ones over here who know what it is like to miss them, you have the power to make our government bring them home. please, please bring us home so that we can be back where we belong and not over here wasting our time and our lives. >> u.s. officials are dismissing anything he said right there as being under duress and being prompted by his captors. they're saying -- they're condemning the release of this video saying that the soldier is being used for prop gran todaga purposes. >> what struck me is how young he is, which is often the case with some of these soldiers. you did mention that he's 23 years old. do we know anything about his background, either personally or

his history in the military, mick? >> well, there was some information early on in this incident thatbergdahl walked away, left his weapon and body armor behind. then once outside the wire as they call it, that is when he apparently got grabbed up by the taliban. there is some suggestion that he may have been having some psychological problems that forced him to leave the base on his own. there were also reports that he may have been escorted off the base by some afghans who either took him by force or he had befriended. but those reports have not been confirmed by anyone. the big question now is, exactly where is he. as you mentioned, the experts will be looking very closely at this video for any sign as to where he might be. but after the initial al qaeda videos of this sort in which we

saw osama bin laden out in the countryside and experts could pinpoint exactly his whereabouts, either in afghanistan or pakistan, they pretty much wisened up and they go against these totally neutral backgrounds. unless there is something in the background that they can pick up audiowise, it would be very difficult for these experts to figure out exactly where this video was taken. u.s. official think that he's still somewhere in eastern afghanistan near the pakistan border. that's where there is a very intensive military search under way. in fact, they dropped leaflets in a couple of areas in other languages to get some kind of information from the local population. >> okay, jim. appreciate it. for more details on this story, logon to msnbc.com. if there are new developments, we will keep you posted. also new this morning, the

secretary of health and human services pushing president obama's plan to reform health care. secretary kathleen sebelius appearing on this morning's "meet the press" saying the plan is still being finalized. >> this isn't ready yet. in other words, this is not ready, this does not meet the president's goals yet. >> no. well, we don't even have the bill out of the senate finance committee. the bipartisan effort is still going on. house is still on mark-up. this is a work in progress. >> mike, according to secretary sebelius, what needs to be done to get health care reform passed? >> they just want to get a bill out of congress or out of house and senate before the august recess that meets fess spi ca specifications. the cost of health care in general to be brought down long term and to ensure most of the 50 million people in this country who do not have health

insurance. there is not compelling anyone to pass legislation. it is not the final version of the legislation but it is important. here's why. the administration and democratic leaders of congress set that deadline, they are bringing all the forces to bear they possibly can. the president has spoken virtually every day over the last week, impromptu appearances, press conferences, cabinet announcements, you name it. he's been talking about health care, pushing congress to do that, arm twisting here at the white house where members of congress have been marching in and out of the west wing. they are still very far short of votes they'd need to pass it. that's indicative of both of problems they are having with this health care package and problems they are having bringing their forces to bear politically, any kind of pressure they can bring. if they can't do it before august, the chances are those chances will not increase. powers of persuasion will not increase after august. there a's an all-out push to get this done, at least moving down the road before congress goes home until after labor day. >> hence, president obama going

before the american people on wednesday. what do we expect? >> we expect a full-blown formal news conference in the east room of the white house just behind me here. they don't happen that often but the president is once again using this bully pulpit to push this. he has to make the sale to the american public who will in turn hopefully, if you're in the administration, contact their members of congress, pressure their members of congress, have the show in the polls that they support something being done about health care. that's part of the strategy here, a very big part of the strategy, chris. >> thanks very much, mike. watch "meet the press" when it reairs, 2:00 eastern right here on msnbc. new twist in the political scandal involving south carolina governor mark sanford. the two-term republican has released an opinion piece this morning describing what life has been like since he admitted to having an affair. he writes, "while none of us has the chance to attend our own funeral, in many ways i feel like i was at my own in the past

weeks, and surprisingly, i am thank full for the perspective it has afforded." he also said, "god is changing him and it will make him better." some lawmakers have called for sanford to resign. one state senator says he plans to hold hearings on whether the governor improperly used state money to visit his argentine lover. throughout this coming week, a dozen major companies including microsoft and coca-cola will tell us how they are faring in the recession when they release their latest earnings reports. on tuesday, federal reserve chairman ben bernanke updates congress on the state of the economy and where we might be headed. later in the week we'll get more insight when new jobless claims numbers come out. last week we saw a sharp decline in the number of people filing initial claims for unemployment. we'll also see new numbers on existing home sales and consumer sentiment. i'm joined by rick newman, chief business correspondent with

"u.s. news & world report." you wrote a new article that looks at some of the industries that will sit out in a recovery which you say is inevitable but sporadic and uneven. tell us more about that. >> we don't know if we're in a recovery yet. we're probably not even going to know it is under way until we're well into it. some industries will do okay. health care, the parts that don't get reformed into oblivion, will continue to do okay. that's stayed pretty strong for people who work in those industries. some energy spriz. green energy seems like a great place to be right now. but there are other industries that happen to form a big chunk of the economy that i think are just not going to really participate in a recovery. or they're really going to languish. >> one of the things we've been talking about today, one of the ones you mention, all these bargains out there if you want to go somewhere. the travel industry having a tough time. >> you've had other guests this morning talking about the great deals in the travel industry. if you work in that industry, the flip side is they're going to be in rough shape for a while. airlines are hurting. there is talk we could have

another round of airline bankruptcies. we've had at least two rounds of airline bankruptcies this decade. we could see a couple more. hotels are having a tough time. you're seeing 30% off, 50% off. cruiselines and casinos. people used to fund these vacations with home equity and they just don't have that home equity anymore. >> as we were talking to our travel expert, she aid all those things cheaper, hotels, resorts, travel, but not if you want to rent a car, which sort of begs the question, what do you think about the automotive industry? >> yeah, that's interesting. some car rental agencies have been hurt quite a lot by these cutbacks in the auto industry. they used to get all of the oversupply from the automakers. cars that they were building too many of were cheap sales to the rental fleets. now those cheap sales are going away because there is so much cut in production which is why rental rates are going up so much. the automotive industry is really in a state of

transformation. it is going to continue to hurt. we might have thought the gm and chrysler bankruptcy signaled the end of that. i think they really only signaled the beginning. a lot more change will happen there. we don't even know if those two companies are going to make it. >> we just saw home starts spike unexpectedly last week, doing better than expected. what about those areas of real estate and construction? >> there is a little bit of building going on in some parts of the country. every time we hear these statistics are up a little bit, they're being compared to other statistics that are sort of the worst ever. they're up a little bit from horrible, horribly low levels from earlier this year. home building and everything associated with real estate, construction, is just going to be a tough business for the foreseeable future. we talked about this before. house prices keep falling. foreclosures keep going up. so that brings down the price of any other houses in that area and it is going to depress activity in the market and that depresses building. everything associated with this t, which ranges from the lunch counters that serve the construction crews that build houses to ford and chevy

building pick-ups that contractors use. >> i'm taking all of my money out of the market and putting it under my mattress. >> the market recovers before the rest of the economy. keep that in mind. >> good to see you on a sunday, bright and early. for the latest developments on the economy, logon to msnbc.com. there's new questions being asked today for san francisco transit authorities over exactly what caused two light rail trains packed with passengers to crash. witnesses said a train rammed into the back of a stopped train that was unloading passengers. 47 people were injured, including the conductor of one of those trains. >> driver's head was down. he looked like he was asleep or passed out or could tell that he was not looking up, he was not slowing down, braking, no signals, nothing. you knew he was not going to step. >> san francisco's deppcy chief says the crash is one of the largest multiple casualty incidents for the city in years. still ahead, mother nature turns home wrecker.

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msnbc sunday, more news now. from germany, three people are missing after a landslide caused half of their house to collapse into a lake. part of another home also slid into that lake. the landslide occurred in the former mining area. pope benedict appearing in public for the first time since he fell and broke his wrist on friday. well wishers greeted the pope today in a northern italian city where he's vacationing. several times he acknowledged people by raising his right arm which is now in a cast.

the funeral service for walter cronkite is scheduled for this thursday in new york city, then will be laid to rest in missouri next to his late wife. a separate memorial will be held in the next few week at lincoln center. another critical moment for the obama administration this week. president will hold a nationally televised news conference to make another hard push for his health care reform plan. that's just one of the hot topics we want to hit with a.b. stoddard, associate editor and columnist with "the hill" newspaper. good morning once again. >> hi, chris. >> a lot of nervousness we're hearing in congress even among democrats about the health care plan, questions about what, if anything, will be able to be done in august, and if it doesn't get done in august, then is it dead for good? how important is what the president is doing on wednesday to how this all turns out? >> he really sees this debate kind of slipping away. he sees the opposition winning the pr debate and had he a

devastating score from the congressional budget office this week which is a nonpartisan body reviewing congress's legislation that said that this is not going to be paid for, and it is not going to be budget neutral and in fact would raise the cost of health care in the years to come and raise the deficit. this wednesday press conference is a way to try to take control of the debate and urge really members of his own party to hang with him and try pass something before the august recess. the august recess, you see this debate going on now about whether or not this is being too rushed and how could you take on something so monumental and complicated as health care reform and do it so quickly. but this has always been the strategy, a strategy for both parties when they have something big like this. the fixes for health care are all unpopular in terms of the way to pay for reform. they've always been on the table, everybody knows them. and so the process all along was for the administration to stay

vague, then in a final minute pick something that was clearly politically untenable and hope that their members could hold their nose and support it. the longer you have a detailed proposal on the table, let's say if it were to go through the august recess, the more of a formidable opposition grows because they have something detailed and something specific to attack. very important for him to try to motivate congress to take this big leap when they consider this political pressure and get some bills out before the august recess. he's speaking to the american people hoping he can build support but he's also really speaking to members of his own party on wednesday. >> although it seems like a while ago now, we remember that he was out pushing for his economic stimulus package. didn't get everything he wanted but did get it through. do you think the white house is satisfied with the way the economy has responded so far? were they expecting more sooner than this? >> yes, they are not satisfied.

they're actually very worried about the fact that the trends in the economy that they're seeing now are worse than the ones they forecasted when they were promising what the stimulus would deliver. for months only about 5% of the money went out and it was very slow to take effect. now some more of it is going out and they're promising 600,000 jobs will be saved or created by mid-september. a very aggressive, ambitious promise. not really even one that they can actually quantify since we can't really -- there's no formula for measuring jobs saved. but they see the jobless rate, what they said would not go above 8.5% as the stimulus was passed, now heading directly to 10% and beyond, and they see a recovery without jobs improving and it's a very troubling picture for them. it is why you see them losing support of independents and why you see the health care debate really being centered around the

question of cost. i imagine if the health care debate had taken place first people wouldn't be so afraid of how they were going to pay for it. now you see the results of the stimulus sort of satisfactory to poor at this point. that's why there's so much pressure on the democrats about spending more money for health care. >> a.b. stoddard, good to talk to you. thanks. >> thank you, chris. with tomorrow marking the six-month anniversary of the obama administration, we want to know how you think he is doing. you can vote by using your cell phone. give him your grade, a through f, to 622639. standard text messaging rates apply. in just a bit we'll take a snapshot of a town that has greatly suffered in the throes of the recession. but there is a glimmer after comeback there. the next chapter in the life after michael jackson. hollywood battles for film rights that it will take a mighty bank roll to win. you're watching msnbc sunday. welcome to the now network. currently, thousands of people

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this is footage from the next-to-last michael jackson rehearsal for what would have been his comeback tour. but the final rehearsal was taped as well and there is a bidding war going on between major hollywood studios that reportedly started at $50 million. there are also reports a television tribute could be planned using some of the footage from weeks of rehearsals that could affect more than $10 million. then while hollywood fights over all of this tape, jackson, his faq, the lawyers fighting over his estate which obviously is going to be worth a whole lot of money. on friday michael jackson's mom went to court to try to fight the executors named in her son's will. joining me, defense attorney karen desoto. are you surprised? does she have, as far as you can see, legal standing given this seems to be a valid will? >> no. short of the witnesses who were

there during the signing of the will coming forward and saying michael was out of his mind, i think that the court is going to abide by his wishes. obviously katherine is going to be -- manage and help distribute the jackson trust. so she might have a little bit of an argument as far as if she really wanted to protect the image of michael jackson, she could say that she does have an interest. however, those executors can dispose of the property whichever way they see fit. >> why would lawyers go ahead into court? do you think that they're really trying to negotiate? let's take the custody case. people say, well, debbie rowe may go because she'll say she wants custody of the kids but what she really wants money. do you go in and say i want control of the estate but does she really want something else? >> i think they're maybe trying to enforce an agreement. yes, i get to manage the trust but i want some sort of say before you do something that you believe will cheapen the image of michael jackson. however, these were his friends. this is an entertainment

attorney. this is a music mogul. they were good friends of him. the idea that they would do something to cheapen his image is probably a little disrespectful to them sglp how long could something like this drag on? >> forever! for 20 years if you want. he is making more money now than he has for many years. >> there's one report -- -- sony didn't dispute it -- since his death he sold 9 million albums. he's widely expected to become the top-selling artist of this year. >> he may be getting a grammy. apparently there's a lot of songs that have not been released. hey, he might be up for a grammy. it is amazing. again, i use the example of elvis presley's estate made over $50 million. this is a corporation -- >> last year alone. >> yeah. this is an ongoing business. he did pick professionals to manage his estate. this is the estate attorney full employment act basically. >> absolutely. it is going to keep on giving. we haven't heard the last of it. there is probably going to be

quite a bit of issues. he owned a lot of catalogs. a lot of assets and it's going to be managed for a very, very long time. >> we haven't even gotten into the tax liabilities. that's for another day. >> and the criminal charges and the children and the -- yeah. paternity. and it goes on and on and on. >> karen desoto, thank you. we'll pause right here. but still ahead, it is a takeoff. big discounts in the travel industry. cash in on really great bargains to get away. you're watching msnbc sunday. hydrates better than the $350 cream. [ female announcer ] most importantly, women are seeing results. and still no drastic measures. olay regenerist. all: hi, john! going to college and need a laptop. what do you got? you, in the top corner. our next class laptops could be perfect for you. we got student feedback and designed them specifically for college. are they legit brands, though? boom! we partnered with hp, toshiba, sony and dell.

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this idea overall. is there something that president obama could say that would bring you on-board? >> yeah. he could give up. he can say that we're not going -- >> that's not exactly the definition of "on-board." >> well, that's really the only way -- republicans really, chris, don't matter in this equation. it is the democrats, people like senator baucus, chairman of the finance committee who came out last week and said the president isn't helping us pass this coverage because of the ballooning deficit and what it adds to our annual budget. what the president should do is come out and say we have government control of health care that has not been working. medicaid and medicare. let's get that under control, let's get the savings back to the american people on those health care agencies that we control and also maybe talk about capping and indexing for inflation medical costs. that might be something that you can get bipartisan support for but certainly he's not going to get bipartisan support or support from his own party on a program that's yet to be announced really. there are five programs out

there currently in congress. >> there are, chris, an increasing number of moderate and conservative democrats who have come out and express their concern. kathleen sebelius went on "meet the press" and said this is a work in progress. is that the administration sort of giving itself some more time? where is the work, as you see it, that needs to be done? >> well, part of this is just the reality of the legislative process. this legislation is not done in the white house. it's done in multiple committees across two chambers, the senate and the house. that does complicate things. it is just the reality of the process. i'm not that surprised by it. at the end of the day i think you'll see a bill come out of the senate before the august recess and a bill come out of the house. then it is going to be settled in conference some time probably in early september. i think the concerns that people have in terms of cost and other

issues, i can understand. but i think what the president are snd second stare bealous and others in the administration have been arguing is we are talking about significant cost savings in terms of how we're going to restructure the medicare/medicaid programs as well as improve deficiencies as well as wellness programs and other things that the cbo just does not factor in when they do their cost estimates. >> $239 billion over ten years. that was probably the start of a lot of concern. not just among members of congress but among the american people. has barack obama kind of painted himself into a corner by saying he's not going to sign anything that's going to significantly add to the deficit, that's going to add to the deficit? >> i don't think so. i think the president has been very strong and very vocal about that he is not going to sign a piece of legislation that adds to the deficit. then the question becomes, all right, how do we find enough revenue on the cost saving side

as well as on the revenue side, whether that's a sir tax or whatever that might be. i think the president is making a very strong argument, one, that we need health care reform now, that there is going to be significant cost savings and i think when you're going to see wednesday in the press conference is the president go out there and talk to the american people as well as members of congress why knee need to move forward in an aggressive way to get this done. let's figure out the details and what the process might be but let's move forward and get this done before we go on august recess. >> brad, we know he is a very effective communicator. he was able to get the stimulus package through. not exactly what he wanted but he got the stimulus package through. does he have political capital to do this? >> his political capital is waning precisely -- >> still 60% in the gallup daily tracking poll. he's getting approval rating of 60%. i think most people would be happy with that. >> his job approval ratings are starting to slip. when you ask the american people about the obama policies, they don't like them at all. stimulus is a perfect example of

where the president tried to sell a pig in a poke to the american people. stimulus money, 80% of which is still unspent. $100 million a day in interest. unemployment is going to pass 10%. it's in double digits already in the urban areas. american people are starting to steal on president obama because what he said the stimulus was going to do has not come to fruition and they're afraid of the ballooning deficit in addition to the budget and in addition to taxes on this universal health care system which will provide substandard health care to every american at a high cost. >> brad, chris, thank you. new this morning, the republican leader in the senate sharing some new reservations about supreme court justice nominee sonia sotomayor. senator mitch mcconnell of kentucky also appeared on "meet the press" this morning. he says he remains opposed to confirming sotomayor after her confirmation hearings. >> we're looking for judges here who are going to be as chief justice roberts said, an umpire, call the balls and strikes.

and what i worry about with regard to judge sotomayor is that her personal views which she's expressed quite frequently lead me to believe that she lacks the objectivity that you would prefer to have in a member of the supreme court. by the way, there's no appeal from the supreme court. that's the last word. >> several other republican senators have said they will vote with the democrats to confirm sotomayor. that should happen early next month. for the latest political developments, check out firstread because it is updated all throughout the day. check back often. logon to firstread.msnbc.com. now to the economy and one of the areas hardest hit by the recession. elkhart, indiana. new unemployment numbers out friday put indiana's unemployment rate at 10.7%, twice what it was last year. but in the city of elkhart, it's 18.7%. elkhart is featured by our

website, msnbc.com. the elkhart project looks at the people there and how they're coping with tough times. this is the first weekend of the elkhart county fair. joining me live, vickie mcklinsey, laid off twice from printing companies that service the rv industry. thanks for taking the time to talk with us. how are you are doing right now? what's your job situation? >> doing pretty good. my job situation, i'm still laid off but i do have a job interview on wednesday. >> i understand you're retraining in computers for the possibility of a new job? how's that going? >> that's going great. i am so grateful that i finally got it. it was a long fight but i didn't give up. i am so happy to be in my training now. >> are you finding a lot of people like you? i understand that there is an incredible number of people who were laid off, hundreds of them, from businesses in elkhart who have gone back to community

college, different kinds of training. are you surrounded by people essentially in the same boat that are you? >> yeah. we have 12 in our class right now just at the place that i'm at. there's i think only two of them that have jobs right now. rest are going through the retraining process. >> you know what? what struck me over the last couple of days as i've been talking to you folks who we've been looking at in the elkhart project, there is this feeling of optimism. i think when you have an unemployment rate approaching 20%, it would be very easy to be very negative. would you say that the community as a whole is feeling positive about the possibility for economic recovery? >> well, i believe that we're all trying to stay positive. it gets scary. it really does. when you start looking at your bills and looking at the income and knowing that the income could go away, it's scary. we're trying to stay as positive as we can. it helps when we get our

retraining vouchers. we're moving forward. we're doing what we can do. >> how have you managed to get through this? i'm just wondering what you've been able to do both financially and emotionally. because it must get you down sometimes, laid off twice, having to go back to school. i don't know, frankly, if i'd want to go back to school right now. it's been a long time. >> i'm grateful for the opportunity to go back to school. i fought for it so hard. i started in january and i did not get my voucher until july 1st. i was just so happy, i started crying right there in the office because i got it. so i'm thrilled to be able to have the opportunity to learn in a field that i am really interested in, which is computers. >> vickie, we wish you good luck. your interview this week at getting a job and continuing your training, thanks so much for being with us. enjoy the fair. >> thanks! thanks for having me. >> appreciate it. to read more about the elkhart project, trials, tribulations and hopes for a turnaround, go

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welcome back to msnbc. i'm chris jansing. a case of swine flu making headlines this morning. a group of 65 students from medford, oregon have been quarantined at a hotel in beijing because one of them tested positive for swine flu. school officials say the student was briefly hospitalized but is now doing better. secretary of state hillary clinton visiting mumbai and new deli today, the start after three-day visit to india. clinton urged india as well as other countries to do more to tackle terrorism and global warming. secretary clinton is the most senior obama administration official to visit india. you could be the new owner of the infamous water gate hotel. the bank holding the $40 million loan is putting the foreclosed property up for auction this week. the 12-story hotel was broken into in 1972 setting off the

scandal that brought down president nixon. a small museum in california is being targeted by a company in austria. the owners of the pez museum now have to fight for their right to pay tribute to the candy. the museum is actually getting sued by the austrian candy company which claims the museum is violating copyright laws. let's bring in lisa green, a legal anim legal analyst and nbc news producer. are you kidding me? >> no. this is one of those classic david versus goliath cases. this is the pez company in austria saying to this tiny museum we never gave you permission to put yourself out as the purveyors of pez. but everyone loves pez. president of pez insisted we're family friendly we want licensees. you can't take the pez name and

build the world's largest pez dispenser. when pez complained they changed the name to the world's largest dispenser of pez. that didn't saff the makers of pez. >> all it does is promote pez. i would think if i went to a pez museum it would make me want to start buying more pez dispensers. wouldn't you think? i see all these cool pez dispensers, i'd think, oh, i want to find that one. >> right. but lawyers would advise companies like pez to do, they know they'll take the heat for picking on a little guy. what they are afraid of, they don't dreefend their trademarks against benign users. it puts them in bad public relations positions. i think the two sides may come to some settlement down the road. >> they won't drag these nice folks from this nice california town with their giant pez dispenser and make them say on

the stand "we just love pez and want to honor pez." they're afraid we could go to the museum and think this is authorized. maybe they can break bread or pez together and come to some sort of settlement. >> i've lived for a little over a year in california. first, i didn't know there was a pez museum. this is something for me to put on my list when guests come in. and you know, you just hope that they can figure it out. >> it's too bad we didn't go last year because they were selling campaign-themed pez that said things like "barack obama for pezident." >> but those weren't official either. that's where you can see -- it is a nonpolitical candy. >> it is a nonpolitical candy. lawyers tell me this is actually a fairly close case. it will be really interesting to see legally who comes out ahead. that's why ideally for everyone, lovers of pez, the pez museum and makers of pez, there is some peaceful settlement and

resolution there. >> wow. i wonder what it takes to actually get to be a pez? >> i'm afraid as your legal analyst, i can't answer that question. >> next time we talk to the president, maybe ask him how they make those decisions. if you can't be barack obama and be a pez, who can you be? >> i don't know. but you definitely can buy them and and i'm told the president tells me the story that ebay was started as a mechanism for pez dispenser lovers who trade pez dispensers with each other. >> seriously. >> we don't know if it's true but i can't rule it out. pez dispensers sell for as much as $5,000. >> this has been one of the most informative segments of the entire morning. thank you so much. >> always a pleasure. >> and how about wieners? remember that song, i wish i was an oscar mayer wiener? i'm not singing it. but the 27-foot wienermobile wedged between the garage and deck of a southern wisconsin home.

police say the driver crashed into the house when she accidentally stepped on the gas pedal instead of the brake. now, the driver says she was trying to get a better view of nearby lake michigan. ouch. coming up, a by-product of a down economy, a bonanza for folks who can afford to travel. but you don't have to have a lot of cash to have a nice vacation. naing onon ud r.

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agent like travelocity, rest assured you'll be paying a lot less this year for air fare and hotels than last year. >> how much less? >> about 17% for domestic air fare, 18% on international air fare, and hotels are r down 15% from last summer. >> would it be fair to say if you look or sign up for some of these alerts companies offer, you could do a lot better than that? i've seecn 30%, 40% 50% sales. >> a yaet great way is being on twitter. most airlines, hotel company, travel professionals are on twitter tweeting about these deals. companies have found it's a very effective way of getting out information. last week, the southwest airline sale kicked off a flurry of matchings from the other carriers, $30 one-way flights.

it was two days long so you had to act fast. >> typically this time of year you find bargains on places people don't want to go, like 115 degree. are there some nontraditional summer sales areas where you can get good deals, places that would normally never be on sale this time of year? >> absolutely. places in western europe, for example, are finding that international air fare is down, hotel rates are down, most of the popular cities in europe -- london, paris, dublin, rome -- a lot less expensive than last year, and that is a break from the norm. traditionally in the summer, western europe is extremely expensive, but this year it's more affordable than ever. las vegas, orlando, san diego, new york city, all a lot less expensive, too. >> and you mentioned mexico, which had the scare, of course, the health scare. now you can really get some deals down there. >> absolutely. it was the number-one value destination this summer. air fares are down, hotel rates are down, and we'll be getting the best service because it's a

wonderful place to go this summer. >> genegenevieve, thanks so muc. >> sure. >> that wraps up our live msnbc sunday coverage. stay with us for headline updates throughout the afternoon. of course, we always have breaking news as it happens. i'm chris jansing. have a great day. so many arthritis pain relievers -- i just want fewer pills and relief that lasts all day. take 2 extra strength tylenol every 4 to 6 hours?!? taking 8 pills a day... and if i take it for 10 days -- that's 80 pills. just 2 aleve can last all day. perfect. choose aleve and you can be taking four times... fewer pills than extra strength tylenol. just 2 aleve have the strength to relieve arthritis pain all day.

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