still alive. i'll be damned. >> for this documentary, thomas moore joined me to revive his brother's memory and along the way we jump-started the entire legal process. >> things have been happening pretty rapidly. we've had a meeting with the fbi and we're going to have a meeting with the district attorney and the attorney general and myself. >> these tragic murders are straight from among the darkest page of our country's history. >> msnbc presents the film that heats up a cold case and unravels a murder mystery, making headlines and history.

♪ you can run on for a long time ♪ ♪ run on for a long time sooner or later got to cut you down ♪ ♪ sooner or later got to cut you down ♪ ♪ you may hide your head working in the dark against your fellow man ♪ ♪ sure as god made black and white what's done in the dark will be brought to the light ♪ you can run on for a long time ♪ run on for a long time ♪ tell them that god is going to cut you down ♪ >> i found thomas moore retired and living quietly at his last army posting in colorado springs. i had a proposal for him that we made a documentary film together that looked back at the brutal klan killings of his brother, charles, and his friend, henry dee. >> it's amazing to me how still that charles moore and henry dee

case is on the back burner in mississippi. this is the last and only picture that i have left of charles eddie moore, my brother. this picture was taken in 1963 and that is one of -- the only picture that i know of that we took together. that's a beautiful picture of us as teenagers. two great football players. i was the quarterback. he was the center. we played on a great team. one of the most important things is this bicycle. mom bought this bicycle in 1958. this probably was the first experience we had of being really, really happy together.

the reason we seen this bike when we were younger, 14, 15, we rode it for two years perhaps and then we put it away. we started hitchhiking. and ultimately, that led to his death because he was hitchhiking the morning he was picked up. mississippi had gotten under my nose and it was a stink. the word "mississippi" made my stomach turn. all of the good things had all of a sudden turned bad. this is a 30/30 winchester. i bought this in 1968. the reason i bought it was for the goal of revenge for the murder of charles moore and henry dee. i will kill innocent people. i will kill innocent white people. i will kill innocent kids. i don't care. my mama told me to shut up.

she told me to stay in the army. this document here is a nine-page document dated january 12, 1965. >> despite the fact that the klan murders of dee and moore were completely overshadowed by the famous white victims of the mississippi burning case, the investigation had been conducted. incredibly, thousands of documents for the dee and moore case are scattered in public archives throughout the united states. and we would acquire almost 1,600 pages of them over the course of this film. when compiled, the sheer volume of evidence available begs the question, how could this case have not gone to trial even back in 1964 mississippi?

an invaluable blueprint of the case, the documents describe prime suspects, a recreation of the gruesome torture and murder of charles moore and henry dee, and the arrests of two men. >> this says james moore seale charles marks edwards. >> the fbi believes james moore seale to be one of the ring leaders in the killings, but he had been reported as dead for many years, so the focus was on charles marcus edwards, who he knew was still alive. >> i want to see him in jail. i want to see him spend the rest of his life wondering how it would have been had he not did that. >> we're on the road to mississippi. >> got everything? >> i got everything. >> okay. let's go. >> i'm ready. a whole individual, town,

county, the state of mississippi. that's the whole deal. if you know something, who are you afraid of? dav david, come here. come here. come here. come here. see where that storm is over there? that is mississippi. >> the ku klux klan still exists in the united states, though in a much diminished capacity from its heyday in the past. in the 1960s, during the civil rights movement, the klan was a terrorist group, whose most violent members organized much like al qaeda, decentralized independent cells operate iing h common world views. bent of preserving white supremacy and their cherished southern way of life, they burnt, tortured and bombed their enemies in a brutal terror

campaign waged here in america. >> we are in mississippi. somewhere up north here is where they found the bodies of charles eddie moore and henry dee, july 12, 1964. >> according to documents, this is what happened on may 2nd, 1964. around midday charles moore and henry dee began hitchhiking near the ice cream store in a small town of meadville, mississippi. seale, edwards and other reputed klansmen picked them up from the roadside, with seale claiming to be a revenue agent, hunting for bootl bootleggers. seale, edwards and the others drove them into the national forest, a national park that surrounds meadville.

>> just imagine a person tied to a tree, tape over their mouth, legs tied to the tree. probably a rope around the neck. hidden like this. the body. >> as the klan informant stated, both seale and edwards participated in the restraining and whipping of dee and moore. at this point edwards claims he left the scene having assisted in the kidnapping and beating and that dee and moore were still alive when he left. they were driven across the mississippi river, stuffed in the trunk of a small car by other klansmen who had been called in to help and taken to a large island owned by one of the klansmen on an old lake formed by the mississippi river. upon arrival, charles moore was

chained to a 1944 jeep engine. henry dee was attached to train rails and fly wheels. they were taken to the middle of the river and the klansmen asked one of the boys if he knew what was going to happen to him. he nodded that he did and with that dee and moore were thrown overboard while still alive. charles' body was found over here and henry's was found just about right there in the middle. >> it's a damn shame. >> here is the skull of charles moore recovered by navy divers nearly seven months later. after the final tip-off from a klan informant. six days after the skull was found, james seale and charles edwards, only two of several klansmen involved in the murders, according to fbi documents were arrested.

seale made a partial admission to the fbi, but edwards, visibly nervous during questioning, gave a much more detailed confession. he stated that henry dee who lived near him had been staring one night at his wife, peggy, and that she was afraid of negroes. edwards then admitted that sometime after that he along with ciele and others picked up dee and moore. it is believed that edwards was the one to point out henry dee standing with charles moore on the roadside, may 2nd, in meadville. up next, thomas makes a call that's been a long time coming. >> edwards, this is thomas moore. fits all. myth. ♪ head & shoulders is just for dandruff. myth. the fact is, head & shoulders does more than ordinary shampoos and conditioners. it gives you... seven scalp and hair benefits including relieving dryness, itch and irritation. fact.

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this is downtown ku klux klan, mississippi. main street.

>> the town of meadville and its surrounding counties, had in the 1960s, been the headquarters of the most violent and secretive klan groups in the usa. what do the people in meadville and roxy think about having charles marcus edwards living in their community? >> the general opinion is that they were guilty and they just got off. >> they don't know who did it. >> thomas had rarely talked to blacks about the case and this would be the first time ever that he would speak to whites about it. >> it's hard for me to believe that them boys would have done something like that. but charles edwards, yii didn't believe there was a better boy in this part of the country than charles edwards.

>> there wasn't nothing like that that happened around here. >> you don't remember nothing about it, no talking or -- >> no. >> what will it take for me to trust any white in mississippi? because i don't think they want to know the truth. >> that was years ago. people have moved on. it doesn't do any good and it it's not going to do that dead man any good for his ancestors to get in a squabble with the whites again. there's no good in that. >> so you think the people in the town agree with you? >> by and large. >> really? >> i do. i just think we're beating a dead dog. >> one guy, charles marcus edwards, ever heard of that guy before? >> yep, that's my daddy's uncle. >> oh, really? >> yes. >> he's involved in this case in some way. >> he's a church-going man. deacon of a church. help you do anything you ask him to do. real good guy. i see him a lot. we hunt together. deer hunt and all that.

we don't ever talk about nothing like that. >> is he a good hunter? >> yeah, he can kill the deer. sure can. >> i think that's why this thing is like this is because it's the good old boy thing. if you're a white man, you're right in this county. >> edwards, i have evidence that you killed my brother. >> that's going to make him hang up. [ bleep ] [ tchbl telephone ringing ] >> can i speak to mr. edwards please? >> who is this? >> my name is david ridgen. i'm calling with thomas moore. can i talk to you for a couple of seconds? >> i don't believe you can. >> sir, mr. moore's down here trying to -- i guess he hung up. >> he hung up.

>> hello. >> hello, mr. edwards. sorry. mr. moore just wants to talk to you for -- all he wants to do is talk to you man to man. what do you think? >> i told you that. that [ bleep ] won't talk to me. >> hello. we are not available now. please leave your name and number after the beep. >> edwards, this is thomas moore. i need closure in the killing of my brother 41 years ago. if you're not the guy, then let's close it. there's no sense in you and i both going through hell for the rest of our lives. i'm not a violent guy. i want to talk to you in neutral ground, man to man, face to face. just the two of us.

>> thomas still felt that he could talk to edwards and pressure him to tell the truth because edwards confessed so easily after his arrest, thomas always thought him to be the weakest link in the case and yet even if edwards did start talking now, would it be enough? back in 1964 when edwards and seale were released from jail, nothing further had been done. the district attorney in 1964 lennox foreman, repeatedly stalled the case apparently despite damning evidence and was suspected by some of having attended klan meetings. he would never take the case forward to a grand jury or a trial. and the fbi also deserves some of the blame. the fbi was fiercely protective of its high ranking klan informant named ernest gilbert. even at the expense of charles moore and henry dee. if the fbi had used gilbert's information to arrest the

klansmen involved in the murder, the informant's secret identity would have been directly exposed. for these and other reasons, the case has remained in limbo. thomas has met with ronnie harper, the current district attorney, only once before. and given the history of his brother's case, he takes into his meetings with officialdom an ever-growing frustration. >> good morning, gentlemen. come on in. >> harper has been the district attorney in the area for over seven years and thomas met him in 1998 the year before connie chung of abc's "20/20" had a look at cold cases in mississippi. one of the pieces that abc aired revealed the identity of ernest gilbert, the very same star informant the fbi had protected in 1964. >> they came to me and told me all the gory details of it. >> but in keeping with the dismal pattern, nothing happened in the case then either. and ernest gilbert is now dead.

thomas wants to ask ronnie harper what went wrong after ernest gilbert's identity was revealed on television. >> the night that was on television, the very first thing i did the next morning was call the fbi about that. they had already agreed to help and had sent an agent down here that was supposed to be looking at it. i called him and asked him about that guy. it looked to me like something was breaking here. and he told me to forget it. he said that guy will not testify. you might as well just forget that he ever said anything. now, in retrospect, maybe i should have pressed it a little more, but i'm relying on these agencies that are supposed to be helping me to investigate the case. so when they tell me that, you know, that's pretty much all i can do. i can't try to go corner the guy by myself. >> the case was officially closed again in june of 2003. >> i guess what i'm feeling is

that they got -- they's using excuses to not to do anything. i mean -- they just -- coming up, frustration fades with an astonishing discovery. could a suspect long thought to be dead be very much alive? >> he said he knows where james seale lives at.

>> looking for something to spark this engine and get it moving. there's not even a spark of energy. that there is named after seale. >> the family of the other man arrested for the murders in 1964, james seale, is notorious in this part of mississippi. like his co-conspirator, edwards, seale was an army veteran, and had also been a truck driver, farmer, crop duster, and for a while, a cop in louisiana. he and members of his family were much feared in the community with a well deserved reputation for violence. i had been told by a prominent mississippi journalist that james seale had died some time ago.

i had also read the same in the "l.a. times" and elsewhere. >> if james seale were dead, this is the cemetery that he would be buried in. because this is the church that he attend. >> while there were seale family members buried here, we found no james seale. we had just arrived in franklin county and we decided to stop at a gas station in roxy, mississippi, for a snack. by chance we met a man named kenny byrd. >> my name is kenny byrd. >> and kenny would tell us the most shocking revelation of the trip so far. >> he said he know where james seale live at. >> right there. >> right here. >> it was a stunning discovery that we knew would change the course of the dee and moore case. >> james seale. right there. >> i'll get out and get a shot of it. >> it looked like it.

yep. yep. james seale is still alive. i'll be damned. >> seale was indeed alive. one of the ring leaders of the dee and moore killings. now two of the conspirators mentioned in the fbi documents were known to be living, edwards and seale. the embarrassingly easy discovery of james seale re-energized the case and started an avalanche of press that culminated with this "new york times" article. the myth of seale's death had been perpetuated by family members who told the media he was dead. the story was believed and reported as true. >> do you think that he is accepted in the community, or --? >> as far as i know, they all accept him here in the

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i'm milissa rehberger. here's what's happening. the family of a soldier captured in afghanistan is praying for their son's safe return. bowe bergdahl is seen in this taliban video posted yesterday. he disappeared three weeks ago from his base. and authorities in tennessee have identified five of six people murdered on saturday. 30-year-old jacob shafer is charged with killing his wife, several family members, and a neighbor. a sixth body found in nearby alabama has yet to be identified.

after decades of grief and guilt, thomas moore has set out to find justice for his brother, charles, tortured and murdered in 1964. back then, there was an investigation and even arrest, but no trial, no conviction. now renewed determination and the production of this film have brought new developments. a suspect long thought to be dead is discovered to be alive. to break through the guilt of his 40-year silence, thomas wanted to confront james seale, one of the alleged klan killers of his brother. but fearing seale might have a gun at the ready, thomas decided to surprise him from a safe distance. >> hey, sir! hey, sir! i'm calling for james ford

seale. my name is thomas james moore. i'm the brother of charles eddie moore. son of a bitch ran inside. the whole bunch of them. all of them. they ran inside. why don't you come out and be a man! all i want to do is talk to you. i hope to see you in court. i confront him, he ran in his trailer. i'm not going to kill his ass, he's not worth it. >> it was at this point that moore detailed plans to confront seale and edwards began to crystallize in thomas' mind. he would proceed along several tracks, and try to continue approaching edwards, the weak

link in the case, and try to get him to confess, and simultaneously apply pressure on seale, whom thomas felt was more dangerous, by using other tactics. and finally while confronting these men could lead to something important, thomas knew he would need higher powered allies to close the deal. he already met disappointment at the state level with d.a. ronnie harper. now we'd made an appointment to see the federal u.s. attorney. would he be the one to give thomas moore some hope? >> could you turn it on? >> lampton was appointed by george w. bush on september 7th, 2001, and he'd never heard about the dee and moore case until i contacted him the week before. >> it's a small world. >> small world. >> as it turns out, lampton and thomas served in the same army division at the same time but didn't know each other. lampton, a colonel, and thomas,

a command sergeant major. >> the decision that there was not sufficient evidence to prove it happened on federal land was made before i got here. you got to understand the klan was a terrorist organization back in the '60s. they had a lot of power because people were afraid of them and people are not afraid of them anymore. we'll take a real careful look at this for you. it's the least i can do for my old sergeant major. >> all right. he said he's going to take a personal interest in that. he owed it to his sergeant major. that made me feel pretty good. he just impressed me the way he walked. like i'm bad wyatt earp. >> wyatt earp or not, in order to get this particular case into federal court, lampton will need an eyewitness to confirm that at least part of the crime occurred on federal land.

in this case, in the national forest. since seale and edwards are the only suspected conspirators to still be alive, a confession of this sort would almost certainly have to come from one of them. >> where are you, thomas? >> right now in franklin county. >> okay. well, be careful down there. >> yeah, i know. >> i tell you what, things have been happening pretty rapidly. had a meeting with the fbi. we're going to have a meeting with the attorney general and the district attorney and myself and then civil rights in washington is calling and they want to be involved when we meet. so, you know, we'll shake the tree. i can't promise you anything other than we're going to kick this thing around and i'm a pretty resourceful son of a bitch. >> more promises from dunn lampton and thomas was happy with that for the moment. >> he wouldn't call if he wasn't fired up now.

>> more importantly, thomas was gaining new confidence that he, who felt like a victim for so long, could do something to make a real difference in the case. >> cool to my head. this is not just about them, this is giving thomas moore an opportunity in life to come back down here and walk the grounds and talk the talk. i never dreamed that i would do this. i never come into mississippi and go to talk to white people. thomas moore done that, come on, dude. and mississippi? are you crazy? >> thomas shifted his attention back to pressuring charles edwards into confessing. this time i was to approach edwards at his home, deep in the backwoods of franklin county to see if he would meet with

thomas. >> i'm not afraid of him. aisle i'm just afraid of the unknown. you know what i mean? i'm kind of hesitant to do it. it will be a very tense moment for me. >> hey, there. hello. whoa! >> how are you? >> all right. you? >> i'm okay. i'm dave. i'm down here working a documentary. i'm here with the brother of charles moore. >> oh, you can get -- go get back in your car now. >> he just wants to talk. >> get off of my place. >> he just wants to talk. >> i don't want to talk about that. i'm not guilty of that. and i've had enough of it. get in your car and get away from me. [ dog barking ] do you think that you will be able be ever to talk to charles

marcus edwards or james seale? >> i'm not going to say i won't ever be able to but you have to ask yourself, time is running out. i think this was the greatest opportunity to talk to marcus. >> i was kind of thinking that you were going to reach your head out and say something and i'm trying to figure out why you didn't. thomas confided to me later that he felt like a failure for not speaking to edwards. when the moment came, he was struck by an overwhelming anxiety that kept him sprawled on the floor of the van. coming up, thomas comes face to face with charles edwards. f i go down to the pool for a swim... get out and dance... even play a little hide-n-seek. i'm breathing better... with spiriva. announcer: spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled maintenance treatment for both forms of copd... which includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema.

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a lot of time had passed since our first trip to mississippi. almost a year to the day, thomas moore returned to dunn lampton's office with a heavy step. >> i came to the realization that whatever we're going to do, it needs to be done quickly. we can't wait. >> i know. >> the way i look at it, this is the way i look at it. you are wyatt earp and we're doc holiday. that's the way i look at it. >> i wouldn't have done anything if you wouldn't had come to see me. and you're saying if david hasn't called you, you wouldn't have done anything. >> right. >> lampton made the decision to go to franklin county to speak personally with witnesses and see some of the sites involved in the killings with his own eyes. >> this is what they call the old river south. >> lampton's tour to the sites of the case was one thing, but thomas learned along ago that he shouldn't rely solely on officials. he knew he would have to get the

community on his side to keep the pressure on edwards and seale. >> do i have a right to be here? i have a right to be here. i am going to place this sign because i want everybody to pass by to know this guy lives here, james ford seale. ♪ >> we can't be stopped. >> amen. >> amen. >> so rest in peace, my brother. >> the sign at the end of seale's driveway would be torn down less than an hour later, but it had served its purpose, to mobilize for the first time a community long-encumbered by its fierce of the past. thomas had came to the point where he decided to confront his demons once and for all. he would attempt to speak to

charles edwards face to face one more time. only by meeting his fear head-on, thomas felt, would he be able to find some peace. also being the victim's brother, thomas' gut instincts had always toll him only he could get the suspected conspirators in his brother's case to start talking. >> what i have here are a few pages from the federal bureau of investigations report dated january 12, 1965. my intent is to give this to charles marcus edwards, that he may have some bedtime reading stuff. >> by giving edwards part of the fbi file, thomas felt that they would reveal the extent of the incriminating evidence that had been built against him more than 42 years ago. >> do i call him mister? >> you can call him whatever you'd like. >> as we learned, edwards was the deacon of this church. he would likely be the first to arrive on any given sunday. thomas would try for a final showdown here. if edwards was a religious man, perhaps the church would make

him think twice about telling a lie. after more than an hour of luckless drive-byes, around 9:45 a.m., thomas was ready to throw in the towel. >> do you think we'll be able to hear him? >> yeah, we'll be able to hear him. >> is that his car? >> yep, that's his car. want to do it now? >> yep. let's pull up there. mr. edwards, i have something for you, sir. >> what is this? >> it's something that i think you want to read. >> take it on back. >> no, no, no, sir. i want you to read it. why is your name in the fbi report? >> what? >> why is your name in that fbi

report. >> i'm not on an fbi report. >> that's what you have in your hand, sir. >> no. >> all i want to do is talk to you. >> what's your name, sir? >> my name is moore, thomas james moore. >> i want to tell you something, i did not kill your brother. i didn't have anything to do with that. >> well, sir, all i want to ask you, why is your name and james ford seale in the document? >> well, the fbi -- the fbi dropped all this case and you know that. >> well, i know from fbi files that they -- >> they dropped the case because there wasn't any evidence. i didn't have anything -- i've never been on that mississippi river in my life. >> sir, did you have anything to do with picking those boys up, sir? >> the report says that you and james ford seale picked them up. it did not say you killed them. >> did you have anything to do with that, sir? picking those boys up? >> i haven't got anything -- y'all get off this church ground and quit stirring up this on

church. >> did you have anything to do with picking those boys up, sir? time to go. >> yes. it's time. >> how do you feel now? >> i feel great. i feel great. i feel great. i mean, i did what i had to do. he made me ask questions. all i want to know is why your name is in the fbi documents. >> it was clear that edwards had never known about the fbi's evidence against he and seale. thomas felt as a result of the confrontation on the church steps, edwards would now be more vulnerable to any approach by authorities. when we return, thomas moore's journey takes him to a place he had once thought he would never see. would never see. >> we did it! after confronting charles the chevy open house. where getting a new vehicle is easy. because the price on the tag is the price you pay on remaining '08 and '09 models.

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edwards, thomas got on the phone to u.s. attorney dunn lampton to tell him about what had just happened at the church. >> what happened? >> i gave him some documents and he's very, very, very nervous bit. i think he's ready to go. i know you're a busy man but i think you should rush on down there and talk to him. >> i need to know what you've given him. >> i'll get that to you in the mail today or tomorrow. >> okay. good. >> a few weeks later, thomas moore would be asked by dunn lampton to return to mississippi to be the first witness in the first ever grand jury called in the dee and moore case. >> well, we're going to the courthouse, federal courthouse in jackson, mississippi, where i will testify in front of a grand jury in the murder case of

charles moore and henry dee. >> when the grand jury finishes, edwards and seale could be indicted, arrested and tried for the murders of charles moore and henry dee. >> wow, man, what a day. i did it. it was a great shot, man. i man, we did it, man. we dit. wow. >> the question is, how long will it take? >> i feel like a prisoner. i feel like a -- all this -- it's not allowing me to be who i want to be. that's what's [ muted ] bothering me. here it is 2007, january, and we're dealing with a crime that was committed 42 years ago.

hello. >> thomas. >> yes. >> it's dunn lampton. >> yes, sir. >> i think they're going to let us proceed with the indictment. >> okay. >> i think they're going to let me bring you to washington. we would leave sometime tomorrow. >> we decided to get on the road to washington fast. >> ready? >> yep. >> all right. >> we didn't know if there would be a press conference or even if seale and edwards would be indicted, but we wanted to be there just in case, and then part way through virginia, the call came. seale had been indicted and arrested but edwards remained free. we picked up speed, and thomas cried for the first time in 50 years.

>> well, it's all over, and i just couldn't help but cry. i got my composure back some. but i -- i just -- finally, finally, hopefully henry dee and charles moore can say, thank god. >> we are announcing today that james ford seale has been indicted by a federal grand jury for two counts of kidnapping resulting in death for his participation in the abduction and murder of two 19-year-old african-american men in 1964, henry dee and charles moore. public and governmental interest in the murders of moore and dee had been renewed by the activism of the brother of one of the

victims. that brother, thomas moore, is here with us today. >> the really most important factor in my mind was thomas moore cast womaning to see me. >> these tragic murders are straight from among the darkest page of our country's history. >> it's exactly 42 years after charges against him were dropped. >> today with help from his brother and the documentary producer because it was with david's help that you confronted james seale. did you ever think you would see this day? >> 18 months of work by a documentarian and a brother and you were able to do what the courts and the legal system was unable to do for 40 years. >> right people, right place, right time, right u.s. attorney. you know, it's just the process of making the film made something happen.

♪ you can run on for a long time ♪ ♪ run on for a long time ♪ run on for a long time sooner or later got to put you down ♪ ♪ someone is going to cut you down ♪ >> right here, internet explorer. i bet he's scared. >> james seale's trial started at the end of may 2007 and ended on june 14th. after less than three hours of deliberation, seale was convicted on federal charges of kidnapping and conspiracy in the deaths of charles moore and henry dee. shortly after our confrontation with charles edwards at his church, edwards confessed his role in the abduction and torture of dee and moore to u.s. attorney dunn lampton. edwards testified against seale for the prosecution and was given immunity.

>> we did not know we were going to reach this day. we left out of colorado on the 6th of july looking for the truth because i needed the truth. >> on august 24th, 2007, james ford seale was sentenced to three life terms in prison. after nine emotional trips together and over four decades of hoping for justice, thomas decided to visit his brother's grave one last time with his head held high. >> i've thought about the pain. i thought about you crying. i thought about you hollering and i thought about how you probably wished that i was there. i'm going try to get on with my life. the shame. the pain. the change. the guilt. it's gone for me. and i think you would want that. and i'm not rushing to get out of here but one day i hope to join you and then we'll all get around god singing hallelujah, hallelujah. so today, i hope and pray to god that you can rest in peace.

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neverland, in its heyday, it was the ultimate fantasy land, an escape where michael jackson could pretend he was a kid and watch others enjoy the childhood that he had missed.