>> how do you write a song? how do you write a song? >> how do i write a song? well, i sit down at the piano. >> what would happen? >> if i sat here and played some chords or whatever and said i'm going to write the best song ever written and nothing happens. i remember when i wrote "billie jean, " i was riding in my car down ventura boulevard. all i remember saying beforehand, i want to write a song with a good bass hook. and, you know, i just let it go really. and then several days later, you know -- ♪ the whole -- >> where did that come from? >> from above. >> the dance as well? >> yes, same thing. >> how do you do it? can you show me how you do it? >> oh, boy. i'm shy. >> come on, just get up and show me. >> i'm shy. >> come on, just show me.

>> come on. >> just show me. jut show me what you do. teach me. >> okay. oh, boy. you're putting me on the spot now. >> come on. >> now people are discovering something about me. i'm really shy. i'm embarrassed. >> okay. you're shy. just get up and show me. >> oh, okay. ♪ >> what's going through your mind when you're dancing? >> not thinking. thinking is the biggest mistake a dancer could make. you have to feel. ♪

you become the bass. you become the fantasy, or you become the clarinet and the flute and the strings and the drums. >> so you're almost the physical embodiment of the music? >> yeah, absolutely. >> michael jackson's home, neverland, is a 3,000-acre ranch three hours north of los angeles. as with most of his life, it has to be seen to be believed. inspired by the children's fairy tale "peter pan" about the little boy who never grew up, it's a multimillion-dollar man-made slice of make believe. the inspiration for neverland, peter pan, why is peter pan a figure of such interest and inspiration to you? >> because peter pan to me

represents something that's very special in my heart. you know, he represents youth, childhood, never growing up, magic, flying. everything, i think, that children and wonderment and magic, what it's all about. and to me, i just have never, ever grown out of loving that or thinking that it's very special. >> do you identify with him? >> totally. >> you don't want to grow up? >> no. i am peter pan. >> no, you're not. you're michael jackson. >> i'm peter pan in my heart. >> so, how had this singing and dancing genius arrived in this surreal place that is his life today? i started to look for answers back at the beginning. ♪ show me what you can do shake it, shake it, baby come on now ♪

♪ shake it shake it baby one, two, three, baby abc, baby ♪ ♪ doe-re-mi that's how easy love can be ♪ >> when you would be practicing, you were very heavily disciplined by your father. what was that like? >> well, i -- i didn't have it that hard because he used me as the example. it was, like, do it like michael. you know, and he practiced us with a belt in his hand. and if you missed a step, expect to be -- >> just let me go back. you just said that you would practice the dance steps, and your father would be holding a belt in his hand. is that what you just said? >> yes. yes. and he would tear you up if you

missed. and so we -- not only we were practicing, we were nervous rehearsing, because he sat in a chair and he had this belt in his hand. and if you didn't do it the right way, he would tear you up, really get you. and i got it a lot of times. but i think my brother marlin got it the most because he had a hard time at first. and he tried so hard. and it was always, do it like michael. do it like michael. you know, but the others were very nervous, and i was nervous, too, you know, because he was tough. >> how often would he beat you? >> too much. >> would he only use the belt? >> why do you do this to me? no.

more than a belt. >> what else would he use to hit you with? >> iron cords, whatever was around. he would throw you up against the wall as hard as he could. see, it's one thing to -- >> but you were only a child. >> i know. >> you were a baby. >> i know. it's one thing to discipline -- >> and you were producing successful records. >> i know. he would lose his temper. i just remember hearing my mother scream, "joe, you're going to kill them, you're going to kill them! stop it! you're going to kill them!" and i was so fast, he couldn't catch me half the time. but when he would catch me, oh, my god. it was bad. it was really bad. ♪ >> i looked up at the screen and

couldn't help wondering what effect this violence had on young michael. ♪ abc easy as one, two, three doe-re-mi ♪ abc one two three, baby, you and me girl ♪ >> we were terrified of him, terrified. i can't tell you. i don't think he realizes to this day how scared -- scared. i mean scared. so scared that i would regurgitate. >> you would vomit? >> mm-hmm. >> when would you vomit? what would produce that sort of reaction in you? >> his presence. just seeing him. and sometimes i would faint, and my bodyguards would have to hold me up. >> when he was beating you, did you hate him? >> yeah.

strong hate. that's why to this day i don't lay a finger on my children. i don't want them to ever feel that way about me. ever. ♪ that's how easy love can be abc, girls ♪ >> thank you! more cash over here!

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in the summer, michael jackson set up temporary home in the gambling capital of the world, las vegas. i went to see him at the four seasons hotel, where he had taken out no fewer than seven suites. i wanted to know why he would leave neverland to spend months

on his own in a hotel room. this is your suite. what do you like about las vegas? >> i like the entertainment. >> the entertainment? >> yeah. it's a fun place to visit. >> what's this? >> oh, i -- when i'm bored, i ride in the hallways of the hotel on this. i cruise the hallways late at night sometimes. >> you are joking? >> no, i'm serious. >> i soon learned that las vegas was full of uneasy memories for jackson. >> i had to share bedrooms with one of my brothers on the tours, and there was some action going on in my room every night. i could hear it. and i used to -- my job was to play sleep. and i was told by one of my brothers, no matter what, don't get up. don't open your eyes. i go, i won't, i promise i won't.

so, i would hear these girls come in. and i would hear them say, "is that little michael?" my brother would say yeah. they'd say, oh, he's so cute." i heard everything. then i would hear -- >> what did you hear? >> with the girls? >> you heard them having sex? >> yeah. >> in the same bedroom as you? >> uh, let me see. um, sometimes, sometimes not. >> so on some occasions, you're lying down, pretending to be asleep, and your brother is having sex with someone in the same room? >> mm-hmm. >> now, we're going shopping to this spectacular place. do you like shopping? >> love it. >> what do you love about shopping? >> not so much the buying. and i'm not cheap, but i love seeing how people make things.

i love craftsmanship, what people can do with their hands and their imagination. ♪ >> have you always been good with your money? have you always been -- >> my money? >> yes. >> yes. i remember getting $200,000 checks in the mail when i was like 12, 13 years old. i used to get these monthly. my father would say, well, what do you want to do with it? i would say, well, of course, we should put it away. >> you were 12 years old? >> yeah, but he would give me a certain amount to buy things that i wanted to buy. and what i would buy is some bubble gum and candy and stuff like that. >> okay. let's go. we headed straight for jackson's favorite shopping mall. he told me he wanted to spend some serious money, and he wasn't joking. >> these ceilings are made -- >> yes, it's extraordinary, isn't it? >> yes. incredible.

>> do you think it's a bit tacky? >> tacky? are you silly? >> do you like to buy jewelry? >> no. for my mother, elizabeth taylor, yes. because elizabeth loves jewelry. my mother loves jewelry. and -- >> did you hear that elizabeth taylor was -- >> the girl i like at the moment, i will buy her jewelry. >> oh, yeah, who's that? >> if there is one i like at the moment. >> is there? >> at the moment, no, not right now. i haven't found one yet. >> who knows. there's time. you're still a young boy. this is michael jackson's favorite shop in las vegas, with the luckiest manager in the world. >> this piece. bought this one, this one, this one. i bought this table. this chess set. isn't it beautiful, this set? >> your chess set in your library. >> no. this is bigger. this is bigger.

>> wow. and it's sold, look. >> i bought this one, right. >> is this yours? >> that's a sold sign. means it's for me. >> how much is that one? >> did we get this one -- >> it's only 89,000. >> did we get this one? >> no. >> can you put that on the list? >> of course. >> just get your pen so you can mark and not forget. >> i'm getting the list now. >> did we get those? >> i don't believe so. >> i like those. why don't we order those? >> right. >> yeah, i like those. >> you have enough space for all of this, michael? >> yeah, i do. >> you've got space. >> yeah. >> this if for the house in neverland? >> no. this will be for another house. >> oh, another one? >> yeah. >> we bought these, right? >> right. >> and these and these?

>> you like your urns, don't you? >> yes. >> and these we bought. >> yes. >> and these. >> yes. >> this table. these, these, right? >> yes. >> how about these big blue ones. look how beautiful these are. these, right? these -- >> yes. >> let's have a look at these ones? >> they're beautiful. >> that's only $275,000 each. so that's $500,000 for those two. >> well, he's going to give us a good deal. >> he needs to give you a good deal. he loves to bargain. celebrities like bargains, too. let me show you. >> we're happy to give them to you. >> how much has mr. jackson spent, out of interest? just a round figure. >> he needs to put the bargain together. >> based on the price of things. a couple million or -- >> i'm not at liberty -- i'm not at liberty to say. >> these things are mine, right? >> mm-hmm. >> it's like you surround yourself with stuff that's like an emperor's house, isn't it? it's like louis xiv. >> it's my taste. >> yeah. >> you could probably retire having just one client. >> we're going to go down. >> great. >> let's go to the next shop.

what about pictures, michael? you like your furnishings. what about paintings? >> i like this one. this one's like apollo. and the girls are bathing -- excuse me. i want that one there and this one. >> okay. >> because we have this -- i bought this statue. bigger than life size. that's the bathing of apollo, right? >> yes. michael definitely knows his art. >> obviously. >> we're going to -- >> about 80% of the shop has been bought by you. >> if you want to look at it that way. >> let's go to the next shop. (man) i'm rethinking everything...

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i would never look at myself in the mirror, ever. i would turn off all of the lights and -- because i had pimples really badly, and it was just difficult to face the public. one time we were in an airport, i remember -- i think it was somewhere like virginia or something -- and some lady recognized my brothers and all

of us. she goes, oh, my god, it's the jackson 5. where's little michael? where's little michael? she's looking around, looking down. where's little michael? and another person goes, "there he is." and she goes, ew, what happened? just like that. and, god, i just could have died right there. that's exactly what that lady said to me. >> did your father and your brothers tease you about your appearance as an adolescent? >> my father did and some cousins did. >> what did your father say? >> he would tease me about how i looked, and he would say, well, you didn't get it from my side of the family. must have been on kate -- you know, kate he would always say, meaning my mother. you didn't get that from me. i said, thanks for making me

feel better, you know. i would just go to the bedroom and cry, you know. >> is it true that your father used to say you had a fat nose? >> yeah. >> what did he say? what did he actually say? >> "god, your nose is big. you didn't get it from me." >> what does that do to someone who's going through adolescence? >> you want to die. you want to die. and on top of it, you've got to go on stage in the spotlight in front of hundreds of thousands of people and just -- god, it's hard. i would have been happier wearing a mask. >> so, had these adolescent experiences in the spotlight led michael jackson to remake his face to create his own mask? >> oh, these are beautiful. >> i had to ask him.

what do you say to people who say, well, when michael jackson was a boy, he was a black kid and now as an adult he looks like a white man? >> well, you've got to ask god that. that has nothing to do with me, okay? that's ignorance. >> what do you mean, it's got nothing to do with you? >> i don't control puberty. i don't control the fact that i have vitiligo. i don't control, you know -- well, how many -- how many white people when they're little kids look white. now they sit out in the sun all day to look black. and the suntan lotion business is a multibillion-dollar business. nobody says nothing about that. they do, you know. they're trying to be other than what they are, but that's okay, i guess, right? >> are you trying to be other than what you are? >> no. >> so, when they say things like you've had implants in your cheeks -- >> oh, god. >> you had a dimple made in your chin? >> oh, please, please. >> you had your lips enlarged. >> oh, please. >> you had your eyelids reconstructed? >> that's stupid. stupid. come on. >> none of it's true? >> none of it's true. none of it's true.

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okay. thank you. i was about to meet michael jackson's children, prince michael i and paris. they're rarely seen in public. are you all set? that's a really great mask. >> it's a butterfly. >> it's a butterfly. let me see. come here. what's it made of? >> i don't know! the inside is black. >> wow. oh, sorry. >> can i run? >> if you want. >> shall we run? sure. no. he's wearing nice shoes. he isn't running anywhere. >> paris, you want to run? okay. >> jackson told me he never allowed his children out without masks to conceal their identities. the children were the result of jackson's brief marriage to his dermatology nurse, debbie rowe. paris is now 4. prince is almost 6.

>> i don't think -- >> i see you got the "star wars" shoes. >> not part 2. >> not part 2. >> daddy got them for me. >> oh, right. okay. what has he been telling you about not part 2? why don't you like "star wars" part 2? >> it's because it's boring and slow. >> right. and what makes you think you're qualified to make such a strong judgment? >> what makes you think you're right about that? are you sure you're right? i think he has a point. >> he has a good point. >> did you cry when prince was born? >> yes. >> can you just tell me what happened? can you remember how -- >> of course. he came out with this really big head. and as soon as i saw his head, i thought of my grandfather and my brother, randy, because his head was shaped just like theirs.

and i said, oh, my god. and then the rest, they let me pull -- pull him out, and i cut the umbilical cord with scissors that were shaped like a stork. and they cleaned him all off and everything. and i -- i was ready to take him home. they said, nope, can't take him home. i go, why? they said, he has serious problems. i go, what? we have to take him to intensive care. he's not breathing correctly. i thought, oh, no, please, god, don't let me have a sick child. oh, please. so, i waited an hour, two hours, three hours, four hours, so scared. after about five hours, this nurse comes in, and she goes, okay, you can go home now. i was so happy. >> okay, mike. paris was born soon after. >> yes. >> your daughter.

>> yes. >> how was that? were you there for her birth? >> of course. of course. it was just magic. she came out the wrong way. her face was faced the wrong way, and she was being kind of choked by the umbilical cord, so i was kind of worried, and it took her longer. and i was so anxious to get her home that i -- after cutting the cord -- i hate to say this -- i snatched her and just went home with all of the placenta all over her. >> you're kidding. >> yeah, i'm not kidding. got her in a towel and ran. they said it was fine. they said everything was okay with that. and i got her home and washed her all off. >> she was just born. >> i know. >> why did you want to do that? >> because i felt that it was okay. they told me it was okay. debbie said it was okay. and i got the permission of the doctor.

i think i was so frightened that they would give me some bad news. i was so scared. but there was no bad news to be gotten. so, i started reliving and i was afraid. i said, i just don't want to hear anything bad. i'll just go, go, go, go. >> presumably, debbie had to stay in the hospital because she had just given birth. >> yeah, of course. >> was she okay about losing the baby, as it were, in the first few minutes? >> she told me to. >> she told you to take the baby? >> yeah, she said, go right ahead. i know that's what you want. i'm totally fine with this. i said, are you fine with this? she said, yes, of course. >> how long was it before she was united with her baby? how long? >> oh, i don't know technically. after getting out, i just don't know exactly. i kind of forget. >> jackson obviously liked being a father. and he had a surprise for me. prince and paris had recently been joined by a new baby brother. we all have confidence

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you recently had your third child. >> yes. >> were you present for his birth? >> yes. >> and what's he like, and what's his name? >> prince michael ii, but we call him blanket. >> you call him blanket? >> yes. >> why do you call him blanket? >> because it's an expression i use with my family and my employees. i say, you should blanket me, i mean, you should blanket her with something, meaning, it's like -- a blanket is a blessing. it's a way of showing love and caring. >> who is blanket's mother? >> blanket's mother, i can't say, because she will be bombarded with, you know -- we have an agreement that we can't -- a contractual agreement -- talk about who she is and everything. that's how we worked that out. >> and was she someone that you

had a relationship with? >> yes. >> thousands of miles away, jackson's behavior as a father was about to come under serious scrutiny. a few weeks later, i went to meet him in berlin. and just as i was arriving, this happened. michael jackson had just dangled his new baby out of the window of a berlin hotel. his fans outside were going crazy. when i got up to his room, i was worried. there was a manic quality about him that i had never seen before. and he was loving the attention of the screaming fans outside the hotel. what does it say? "i love you with all of my

heart, michael jackson." that's a hotel pillow? >> yes. >> what were they singing earlier? >> "f" the press, michael is the best. >> what were they saying? >> "f" as in [ bleep ] the press, michael, you're the best. i'm not going to say the word. >> he arrived in berlin after a week of appearances in a los angeles courtroom. media coverage of the court case said his face was disintegrating. >> going to be a tight fit. >> wasn't that silly? i made the worst face.

>> what do you think of berlin? >> i love berlin. >> with jackson headed back to the hotel, a storm was brewing about the blanket incident. the next morning, he was keen to show me how he cared for his children. >> i love you. >> here he is. >> here's the bottle. wait, wait. here's the bottle. >> it's okay. just take this off -- >> please don't take the blanket. >> okay. here we go. abo, abo! drink this. drink this. blanket, blanket, i love you, blanket. yes, yes, yes, i love you. i love my children very much. yes. don't cry. >> does he like his food? >> yes. >> have you been hearing about what people have been saying? >> it's totally ignorant. i would never do that to my

children or any child, try to kill them? come on, stupid. why would i put a scarf over the baby's face if i was trying to throw him off the balcony? we were waving to thousands of fans down below. and they were chanting they wanted to see my child, so i was kind enough to let them see. i was doing something out of innocence. >> he's hungry, isn't he? >> he loves the milk. this kind. it is good. thank you. >> jackson's behavior was beginning to alarm me. later that day, he took prince and paris to berlin's zoo. it was supposed to be a family outing, but the press were out in force. somebody had helpfully tipped them off.

michael was here to see the gorillas, but he seemed completely oblivious to the fact that the trip had descended into total chaos. >> i've got prince. i've got prince. concerned for the safety of the children, i was caught with them in the middle of a paparazzi scrum. i got prince. i got prince. it was no kind of trip for two young children, and everybody could see it but jackson himself. it was hard to believe jackson was the same man i had met in neverland. the first opportunity to talk about his bizarre behavior was later that evening at a charity auction.

wouldn't it be easier for the bodyguards and for your nanny just to take the children to the zoo on their own, rather than have to go through what they went through today? >> no, because i can't take that chance. no. i would rather it be my fault if something happens. >> really? >> yes. >> so, you wouldn't allow them to go with your body guards unless you were with them? >> there was security. there was a lot -- i don't want to say the words, but it would be a hard one, like really walking the line, very delicate. >> you've had a tough week this week, haven't you? because the media have been accusing you of being irresponsible with your children. >> the media's wrong. i love my children. i'm holding my son tight and strong. why would i throw him from the balcony? that's the dumbest, stupidest story i ever heard. i love my children, and they know i love them. and two minutes before that, they saw the baby, prince did the same thing. i had him in my arms. >> i saw that. >> i have done it, you know, but i got some strong arms.

>> were you just overexcited? >> no, they were chanting they wanted to see the baby, so i wanted to show them the baby. i'm not going to let them fall. >> but you didn't really show them the baby because the baby was covered. >> they got to feel the spirit. good enough. and he was responding. he started punching. >> the consummate performer since childhood, jackson was entirely unfazed by the day. so the show went on.

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early in the new year, jackson agreed to what would be our final meeting, this time in miami, florida. there were unanswered questions, lots of them, areas of his life about which i felt he'd been less than honest. his face, his denials about plastic surgery, his relationship with blanket's mother, and, of course, the neverland sleepovers. confronting him wouldn't be easy, but now it had to happen..

confronting him wouldn't be easy, but now it had to happen. as we prepared for the interviews, the atmosphere was unusually tense. this time, jackson had flown in his own lighting expert. maybe there was a reason for that. cosmetic surgery was to be the focus of some difficult questions. when we were talking some time ago, you talked about how when you went through adolescence -- >> yeah. >> -- you had a terrible time. >> yeah. >> in fact, i had looked at some pictures of you during that period, and you did have a lot of spots. >> yeah. yeah. >> one of the things that you clearly used to overcome this is changing your appearance.

you've kind of -- you know, you physically changed, haven't you? the photographs of you if i look at them -- >> no, it's called adolescence. it's called growing and changing. >> but even the shape of your face has changed. >> no, it has not. i had no plastic surgery. just my nose to help me breathe better so i could hit higher notes. >> are you honestly saying you've only had one operation? >> two. as i can remember. yeah. just two. >> if i looked at some of the photographs of you in your adolescence -- >> yeah, i changed. people change. >> but even after you did the "thriller" album, your lips are different now than they were then. >> no. sorry. >> you don't think so? >> no. >> on a serious point, in some ways i can understand it, because -- >> i'm happy with my lips. >> forget the lips specifically.

>> plastic surgery wasn't invented for michael jackson. everybody gets plastic surgery. >> sometimes people go too far. sometimes, if they've got a lot of money and they have an opportunity, sometimes they can think, oh, i'll do things, especially given your childhood. i mean, while we've talked, i've begun to understand how difficult that was for you, how unhappy you were as a child. >> yeah. >> as an adolescent, how unhappy you were about your appearance. you told me in neverland that your father used to insult you. you told me in las vegas your father used to talk about your nose. >> yeah. >> so i can understand why you wanted to change your appearance. it makes sense. >> yeah. >> i wouldn't want -- >> just that, though. not the whole face. just the nose. they try to say, why do you keep changing it? it's not true. just the nose, you know. >> even though the shape of the face is different? >> i changed. >> how did you change?

>> i'm a little kid. >> i'm talking about pictures of you in your 20s. >> i was changing. i was changing. i'm telling you the honest truth. i don't do anything to my face. >> honestly? >> honestly. >> we broke off, but not for long. next stop were my worries about the children. when i was talking to prince one day, he said to me that he didn't have a mother. >> he said he didn't have a mother. >> yeah. i said, prince, where is your mommy? and he said, i haven't got a mama. >> that's right. she did it for me. she did it for me. >> so just so i understand this correctly -- >> she's a wonderful person, too. >> she knew that michael jackson loves children. >> yeah. >> and she knew that michael jackson wanted children. >> that's why.

i needed to be a daddy. >> right. >> she said you needed to be a daddy. >> uh-huh. >> more than she needed to be a mother. >> yes. she wanted to do that for me as a present. >> as a present? >> yeah. yeah. >> what do you mean? >> a gift. i used to walk around holding baby dolls. >> really? >> yeah. i wanted children so badly. >> what you just said is your wife gave you two children as a present because she knew you wanted to be a father. >> yes, a lovely gesture. >> it's an incredible gesture. >> yeah. there are surrogate mothers who do that every day. it's happening every day in the world. it's happening right now. >> is that how blanket was born as well? >> i used a surrogate mother of my own sperm cells. i had sperm cells in my other two children. they're all my own children, but i used a surrogate mother. she doesn't know me and i don't know her, and they were born.

>> how did you choose the mother? >> it didn't matter to me, as long as she was healthy. as long as her vision is good and her intellect. i wanted to know how intelligent she is. >> would you have conceived a child with a black woman? >> of course. of course. >> but i've seen blanket, and i think it's safe to say his mother was probably white. >> you're wrong. >> i'm wrong? >> yes. >> oh, really? >> yes. >> so blanket's mother is black? >> yes. >> but blanket is so white. >> black people would call it colored people because we come in all colors. to very white as white as my hand to very dark, as dark as your shirt. my father has blue eyes, you know, and when they compare us, that could easily be my father,

you know. >> really? >> of course. >> when are you going to have your next child? >> i wish i could have it today. >> really? >> i was thinking of adopting two children from each continent around the world. >> really? >> yeah. a boy and a girl -- >> from every continent? >> from every continent. that's my dream. >> when you talk about children, what do you think people would say if i said, well, i've invited some of my daughter's friends around or my son's friends around, are they going to sleep in the bed with me tonight? what do you think their parents would say. >> if they're wacky, they won't, but if they're close family, well -- >> i wouldn't want my family to

>> just cast your mind back. what was that like when you first heard the allegations that were being made against you? >> they were shocking, and i'm not allowed to talk about this by way of law. >> but how did you feel about this? i'm not asking you to say what was said. >> i was shocked because god knows in my heart how much i adore children. >> but isn't that the problem, when you actually invite children into your bed, you don't know what's going to happen? >> but when you say bed, they make it sexual. it's not sexual. we go to sleep. i tuck them in. i put a little music on, i reed a book.

it's very sweet. put the fireplace on, give them hot milk. we have a little cookies. it's very charming, very sweet. it's what the whole world should do. >> the reason that's being given for why you didn't go to jail was because you reached a financial settlement with the family. >> yeah. yeah. i didn't want a long, drawn-out thing on tv like o.j. or anything like that. it wouldn't look right. i wanted it to go away. this is ridiculous. go. >> my questions had upset him deeply. >> they're not with their fathers anymore, their mothers. it's an outcry for attention why kids are going to school with guns. they want love. they want to be held while they're busy off on their day job and they leave them at home

on the computer and they're doing all kinds of crazy stuff. that's destroying our world. we need to bond again. that's very important, martin. >> why does it mean so much to you? >> i'm just very sensitive to their pain and i'm very sensitive to the family, the human condition, you know, on that subject. it means a lot to me, and i want to help in whatever way i can to help that, you know. it's -- like i said before and i'll say it a million times, i'm not afraid to say it. if there were no children on this earth, if someone announced all kids were dead, i would jump off the balcony immediately. i'm done. i'm done.

>> now let me take you inside. >> an extraordinary tour of michael jackson's personal fantasyland. >> one of the statues that i was told was located right here was of a butler with a trae of cookies on it. >> the zoo and amusement park long gone, neverland a shadow of its former self. but in an exclusive interview, jermaine jackson said this is where his baby brother belonged. >> this is his home. he created this. why wouldn't he be here? >> a revealing look inside the place the king of pop called home until a personal scandal forced him out forever. >> he felt that they sort of invaded his privacy, a place that was so beautiful, they wanted to turn into something so ugly. >> we go into jackson's living

room, dining room, bedroom. >> he had one of those security people in the door so he could tell who was knocking or who was delivering something. the king of pop needed a lot of clothes, and boy, did he have a closet. this is a full cedar closet. >> a side of michael jackson you've never seen before, from inside his own four walls. neverland. in its hey day, it was the ultimate fantasyland, an escape where michael jackson could pretend he was a kid and watch others enjoy the childhood that he had missed. one overnight visit or said as a child he would fight to stay up all night because there was too much to miss if he shut his eyes. few have actually gone inside the place where michael jackson called home for 17 years. we're about to take you on a rare tour of this california landmark. we'll check out his two-story