tv MSNBC News Live MSNBC July 27, 2009 2:00pm-3:00pm EDT
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sarah palin says good-bye to alaska by blasting her critics. now we know her enemies, so who are her friends? and why news week calls the new taliban leader a nightmare. and the woman who had eight babies at one time will get a six-figure payout to put them on television. sarah palin may not be governor, but she's still grabbing the spotlight. she gave a speech that was well, classic palin. >> it is because i love alaska this much, sir, that i feel it is my duty to avoid the unproductive, typical lame duck session. with this decision now, i will be able to fight even harder for you, for what is right and for truth. and i have never felt that you need title to do that.
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>> msnbc's chief washington correspondent, norah o'donnell is live in fairbanks, alaska. did she explain how she plans to fight for her supporters without her title? >> reporter: no, and that's a great question. what we learned yesterday is that she may be out of office, but not off work. this was a very fiery speech where she used it to take parting shots not only at the opposition, but at the media and hollywood starlets. she saved some of her toughest criticism for the media. she blames them for treating her as a double standard. >> democracy depends on you and that is why, that's why our troops are willing to die for you.
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so how about in honor of the american soldier, you quit making things up. and one other thing for the media, our new governor has a very nice family, too, so leave his kids alone. >> her message to the media, quit making things up. she also attacked hollywood starlets. what's she talking about? i think she was talking about ashley judd in a television ad that appeared in the 2008 campaign which was about hunting wolfs here in alaska. she said watch out for these antihunting, antisecond amendmented circuses from hollywood. she said hollywood needs to know, we eat, therefore we hunt. >> does she eat the wolf? just rhetorical question only. rhetorical. >> contessa, contessa -- sorry.
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>> you know, i have some questions, big questions about this episode in the sarah palin saga. what was she talking about when she told the media to quit making things up and how effective can she be for the conservative movement? she listed her enemies, but what about her friends? let's bring in j.p. good to see you. who are her friends? >> grass root supporters that really identify with sarah palin and feel she represents them. there are also those who feel she can be an excellent spokesperson. they say the following she was able to engender and think she's a natural politician. >> do they think she can be a good spokesperson when she has major gaps. we heard her say ng honor of the american soldier, why don't you quit making things up.
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there's a major gap in terms of logic flow there. >> i think she might have skipped a step. you can probably say, well, the american press would not be possible were it not for the defense being put up by the military and that has been said for years. of course that she was speaking off the cuff and that might not have come across because it was a big crowd. i think she's in good shape. but in terms of logic, there are plenty of politicians we see every day saying ridiculous things. >> very true. i want to play what she said, you heard norah mention it, her take on hollywood. >> stiffen your spine to do what's right for alaska when the pressure mounts because you're going to see antihunting, anti second amendmentment cir s circuses from hollywood. they use these tiny, talented
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starlets. they use alaska for that second amendment causes. >> i know there are large portions of the american population who feel strongly about their right to take guns into the woods and hunt. it's a long-cherished tradition in a lot of american families to do so. >> i think this is clearly an example of something that speaks strongly to middle america and working class america. also the upper class are big on it. >> do you think she's ready for a national stage and spotlight? >> i think she already has it. she has this kind of audience. we're talking about her on national, cable news. it's clearly a sign she pulls in
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these ratings. i just think she needs to take more time to figure out what she wants to say specifically and that's something she'll have time to do. >> thanks so much. now to the fight for health care. congress is battling over the plans and the president continues his hard sell for reform. there have been a lot of the distractions in the arrest of harvard professor gates. let's go to savannah guthrie. what really can be done by this august recess? >> i think what's going to happen more likely than no, the house will pass something out of committee and we'll probably see something out of the senate finance committee out of this bipartisan deal. that will probably come by the end of this week and then they would mark it up next week. the senate has one extra week longer before it goes into
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recess before the house. if that happens, i'm sure the white house will tout that as progress. it's not what the president initially called for. he wanted health care out of both full houses by the august vesz. that's not going to happen. but they're not that far off schedule. if they can get that done, they will be in a position to return in the fall, debate it on the floor of each chamber and then go to the conference committee. things are moving forward, but have definitely had a setback in terms of timing. >> we may be one step forward, two steps back. it's curious because here's peter orszag, who used to head up the congressional budget office and now is slamming the cbo on their estimates when it comes to health care. what are you hearing on this and what might come from it? >> the cbo has really been a
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thorn in the side of the white house. this is the third time they've kind of poked holes in the p proposals out there. there was a board touted as providing cost savings and the cbo said, well, it's really only going to save you $2 billion over ten years. republicans seized on it. what they say now is we never touted that as something to pay for all of health care reform. that being said, there's certainly a level of frustration with the cbo. you can even see it in this blog post where he takes a swipe at elmendorf. some of that is boiling over. >> that seems to carry on from administration to administration. thank you. be sure to watch c brnbc tonigh for meeting of the minds.
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tonight, 9:00 eastern. president obama says the u.s.-china relationship will mold the 21st century. two days after talks are underway on issues like the economy and climate change and nuclear weapons. this morning, hillary clinton praised china for pressuring north korea to abandon its nuclear program. tim geithner and china's top economic policymaker said the economy is showing signs of recovery. doctors are ordering nicolas sarkozy to get some rest. he was jogging over the weekend and collapsed. after a stay in the hospital, doctors said he could go home. they blame the episode on overwork and 84-degree paris heat. and the space station mission involves placing a camera on the porch of a
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japanese lab installed next week. "endeavour" is scheduled to undock from the international space station tomorrow. the government's new cash for clungers program is now on the road which allows some people to get cash for turning in their gas guzzlers. not everyone qualifies. we'll have your answers for the secretary of transportation. plus, if you think the leader of the taliban is bad, meet his number two. details on the man "newsweek" calls the nightmare ahead. and this is like nothing you've seen before. they are going to sing like canaries. trust me. details ahead on msnbc. i never thought it could happen to me...
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i'd like to put in asking the president to apologize. >> that's from the republican congressman, now demanding the president say he was wrong for face action on the hill. >> we're talking about a resolution to have obama say he's sorry for calling the cambridge police incident stupid. >> like i said, i respect what police officers do. from what i can tell, the sergeant involved is an outstanding police officer, but my sus suspicion is that it would be better if cooler heads prevailed. >> mccotter's resolution, how far is this going to go? >> these kinds of resolutions happen all the time and they're often used to praise someone or mark an important national
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event. they have no weight of law, but it gives members of congress to write up a document, be heard on the floor. this is a republican who has been in office since 2003. he's focused on what the president did to the officer, by jumping ahead and not being more careful. he is not satisfied about what the president said where he talked about needing to recalibrate what he had said, the president that is, and acknowledging that perhaps made an unfortunate indictment of the police officers. all of those things the president has tried to do is not satisfactory to this congressman who believes the sergeant has
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been put through scrutiny. it's a chance for the congressman to be heard. many of us didn't know his name before he chose to do this and it's an opportunity to make his point. >> we know it now. thank you. tired of driving around your old beater? the governor's hoping a lilt l cash will persuade you to trade it in for a new car. the idea is to get people into cars that get better gas mileage. it's supposed to be a win-win for auto mamakers and the environment. let's bring in transportation secretary, ray la hood. >> we know there are a lot of people in the showrooms this weekend and the show started today. i called home to talk to a
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friend who's a new car dealer and he had four deals pending this morning. i think you're going to see a lot of people in showrooms, people who have been driving cars with over 100,000 miles on them. >> i want to run through the requirements here. the car has to be less than 25 years old, get less than 18 miles per gallon. it has to be drivable. it has to have been continuously insured and registered for at least the past year. you have to prove it. you have to prove that's the case. i thought what i would do, because this a program really for american drives, that i'd let people ask you questions, so people were on twitter and facebook asking me questions and i'd like to pass them on. you up for this? >> of course. >> okay -- ask what the law says dealers are supposed to do with the other cars when they turn
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them in. >> they drain the oil, they pour a chemical in the engine. they turn the engine on and within a half hour, the engine is killed. they tow it away to scrap yards. you cannot use that high-mileage engine again. >> george asks, i'd be interested to know if there's a plan on what to do with the parts. >> the car will go to a scrap yard and they'll sell the parts for people who still may have an automobile they're driving where they might need a water pump, a fuel pump or shock. >> the scrap yards pay for the cars then? is there an exchange of cars? does the government get cash back in exchange? >> there is an exchange and the scrap yard actually pays the auto dealer to have the car towed away and for the
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automobile. there's a scrap value on it. >> does the dealer then reimburse the government for any part of the $4500 they paid out for the car? >> $50. there's like a filing fee. >> mark asks why are non-u.s. auto companies able to participate. >> well, because we're trying to help the automobile industry and many of these so-called foreign automobiles, whether it's toyota, nissan, honda, many are built in the united states with u.s. workers. the idea that it might have a toyota or honda or nissan doesn't mean it's necessarily built in another country. >> mike wants to know, he says if you're unemployed, there's no way you could afford the program
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even with the rebates and chrysler's doubling it. he says there's no way anyone can afford that. why not create a program for used cars. surely there are good useded cars out there that get better gas mileage. >> i take his point on that. if this program is wildly successful, which we believe it will be, it's conceivable congress could come up with a program like that. >> one more question. this has been allotted a billion dollars. what happens when that runs out? >> the program ends and if these cars are sold quickly and 250,000 cars are sold in a short period of time, i guarantee you, congress will be back here in washington debating whether to continue the program, adding additional money, but we keep our fingers crossed and hope that that happens. >> i think it's a fascinating
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program. it will be interesting to see if it accomplishes the goal it was set out to accomplish. thank you. you can find me at twitter.com/contessabrewer, or go to twitter.msnbc.com and you'll find the links to click on to follow me and my colleagues. coming up, sarah palin's good-bye speech was like a hit list, really. plus, iran is blaming the united states for two deadly plane crashes. what? how does that work? we'll tell you what their argument is just ahead. (male announcer) if you've had a heart attack caused by a completely blocked artery, another heart attack could be rking, waiting to strike. a heart attack caused by a clot, one that could be fatal. but plavix helps save lives. plavix, taken with other heart medicines goes beyond what other heart medicines do alone to provide greater protection against heart attack or stroke and even death
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he says that it's insulting to america's armed forces to contend they would suffer moral and recruiting problems if the u.s. had a policy of letting gays serve openly when it hasn't been a problem for the british. it hasn't been a problem for israel israelis. kristen gillibrand is making her case for don't ask, don't tell. the senator says 265 men and women have been unfairly dismissed from the military since president obama took office. a gallup poll shows the vast majority of americans think gays should be allowed to serve openly. the president's taken a lot of heat for not using his authority to end the practice. he may be waiting for congress to act. authorities in new york are trying to figure out why a
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driver took her van the wrong way down a parkway yesterday. it burst into flames. the driver, her daughter and two young niece were killed along with three men in the suv. officials in connecticut broke up an alleged bird fighting ring. they were canaries. police seized about 100 canaries yesterday. people could come to watch and gamble on the winners. 19 people arrested. i have never heard in my life of a canary fighting ring. crazy. coming up, if you think the leader of the taliban is a threat, wait until you meet his number two. and what was she thinking? the octo mom makes a tv deal for her kids. did she sell out for too little?
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welcome back. i'm contessa brewer. this month has been the deadliest for coalition forces in afghanistan since the war on terror began. 67 troops killed so far. american forces hold one man particularly responsible, but it's not the leader of the taliban. he's the terrorist group second in command. most people have never heard of him. "newsweek's" up coming issue has a profile of him. it's good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> what were you able to learn about him? how important is he to the taliban? >> he's the key figure. he's been the number two since the begin, but in the last three
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years, he's been running the organization. >> you list in the article that he appoints and fires governors, presides over council, controls the money and that he commands military, political, religious power. doesn't that make him the number one guy? >> he issues the orders in his name. everyone obeys bar dare, but he's a very different leader. he's much more hands on. >> giving his willingness to meet with people who are strangers to him, to negotiate outcomes rather than take quick action, is there any chance that building a relationship with
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baradar could lead to some sort of settlement? >> a lot of people think so. if you ask him, and we had an interview with him in this issue, he'll say no. but we know in 2004, he approved a peace mission to karzai's government and as recently as december, we believe at least two senior taliban sort of put out peace dealers to the government that were approved. >> i want to ask you about a couple of other things we're watching from this region. there's a headline on msnbc.com about pakistan authorities detaining an islamic cleric who had brokered a failed peace deal in the swath valley. have ub able to learn anything on this front? >> i don't know about that specific case. i do know that offensive that the pakistani forces undertook
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in the swath valley is still very uncertain. refugees are wondering if it's safe to go home. >> and it also looks as though we've come across the taliban's code of conduct. what they call rules for mujahadin. it seems like sort of an oxy moron to think there are rules for mujahadin. >> i know the taliban are very concerned with that afghan civilians think about that. they understand that this is really a battle for the minds of local citizens, so they themselves have appointed a committee to hear complaints from average afghans and try and resolve those. >> it's great of you to join us today and talk about that
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article. iran's foreign ministry is blaming u.s.-backed sanctions on the country. blaming the u.s. for two recent deadly plane crashes. iran's ageing fleet is plagued by problems. iran relies on russia aircraft, many soviet planes that are also harder to get parts for. so there you have it. america to blame. now to sarah palin. a lot of people still wondering what's next for the former vice presidential candidate. instead of using her good-bye speech to detail her future -- >> some straight talk for some, just some in the media. because another right protected for us is freedom of the press. you represent what could and
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should be a respected, honest profession. that's why our troops are willing to die for you. so how about, in order of the american soldier, you quit making things up. you're going to see antihunting, antisecond amendment circuses from hollywood. they use these celebrity starlets. hollywood needs to know we eat, therefore we hunt. be weary of accepting government large -- it doesn't come free. >> joining me now, democratic strategist and republican strategist, want to take a stab at a reaction? >> i can't believe we're still talking about her. when i watch this, i can because she actually managed to become more audacious each time she speaks. the fact that she is equating
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the media with somehow harming the american soldier is ridiculous. i think it's almost offensive that she uses the american soldier, our brave men and women in uniform, to bullet proof herself from reasonable questioning. >> let me repeat her words. she said that's why our troops are willing to die for you, meaning the media. so how about in honor of the american soldier, you quit making things up. alex, what did she mean by that? >> i think she's entitled to point fingers at the media. she's had rough treatment in the press. she's gone back to alaska and tried to be a governor. as she said a couple of weeks ago, she figures it's best she move on. she continues to have a tremendous platform. the fact we're talking about her today after she's not governor any longer, shows what a
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tremendous platform she has. >> alex, what is that platform? >> excuse me. what is -- >> i don't understand. >> my point is that, msnbc sent a correspondent up to alaska to cover her speech yesterday along with just about every other news organization in washington, d.c. when she talks, people listen to her. >> because she's become a national celebrity. >> exactly. i think that's a tremendous opportunity. now she needs to capitalize on it and figure out what she needs to say going forward. as a republican, i know attacking the media and hollywood -- i hope it's more constructive moving forward. >> alex, do you have a problem with the gap in logic? i mean, to say to members of the media, that's why our soldiers are willing to go and die for you, and so in honor of american soldiers, stop making things up. does they make sense to you?
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>> she was clearly talking about the first amendment. >> okay. what about the future? because here she is, she's refusing to say what -- let me play it. i don't have to say it. >> we are facing tough challenges in america. with some seeming to just be hell bent maybe on tearing down our nation. perpetua perpetuating, suggesting our best days were yesterday. >> do you see, alex, in the future, people taking advantage of the platform and spotlight she takes with her? could she be instrumental in a conservative movement and will it be regional? >> she plays a very important role in the republican party. where ever she goes, she gets big crowds. i think she could have a very
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bright future if she does the right things now, which is to be constructive moving forward. >> in new jersey, the gubernatorial candidate says no, but in virginia, texas, they're saying yeah, maybe you can come campaign for us. >> it's funny because my home state is new jersey and it's unsurprising that christie doesn't want sarah palin visiting the state. her views don't fly there. she keeps saying she wants to build the center coalition. >> new jersey does have hunters, so maybe they can find some common ground there. >> the republican party is hungry for new leadership and people with new ideas and there's a real void p at the top of the party and people are looking around the country at our governors in particular, looking for those leaders. if she can step up to that, all
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the power to her. >> yeah, i think the step up part is the part that a lot of people are waiting to see. thank you. the us navy is warning pirate attacks could pick up off the coast of somalia. they warn that with the monsoon season ending, they can see more pirate activities. it's official. you knew this was coming and i'm sorry to be to be the one to report it. octo mom has signed up all of her children, 14 of them, so star in a reality tv show. contract filed in los angeles guaranteeing the kids will earn $250,000 over three years. that's total. not for each child. that means each child will earn just under six grand a year. courtney hazlett writes the
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scoop for msnbctv.com. compare that with what we saw with jon and kate plus eight. >> this is the real issue. that even though there are laws that protect the kids, in the state of california, 15% of the growth earned has to be put into a trust that is not even available to the kids until they're 18. so yes, there are some protective thing ins place for these kids, however, it's such an antiquated law, such an antiquated order of protection. it has gotten to the point know where you need a new way of protecting kids who end up in reality shows and really being exploited. these kids aren't even old enough to know they're on camera and their life will be played out for years and years. >> that is an argument that has been made about child actors for years. >> different reality shows, because when you're a child
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actor and you're doing "home alone," it's a script. a controlled environment. you have tutors onset. social workers onset. your family is often onset. that's what the difference is. it's very personal, very intrusi intrusive. the parents are old enough to make the decision. >> what do you know about this production company? >> they've done other shows before and that's fine. but i think what really matters here is you've got 14 kids. not just one or two. can she take care of 14 kids? that's been up for debate. can she take care of 14 kids and make sure they don't get exploited? i don't see how it's possible she can make sure these kids are protected. >> you're very antichildren reality shows. >> television needs to be watched. television needs to make money.
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i understand it's a business. that's fine. however, the business has changed so much in the last decade or so, especially when it comes to the use of children. the laws have not caught up to make sure they're protected. >> thank you. michael jackson's toxicology report is due out. plus, we have the 911 tapes from that day in cambridge when a white police officer arrested a black, harvard professor. and next, a live report from hondur honduras. is it possible that the overthrow of the president was totally legal? that's next. and you want to do the same for your laughable, lovable dog. [ barks ] that's why purina fit & trim is specially formulated... with high-quality protein, including delicious real chicken, to help him maintain lean muscle and a healthy weight,
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for their game, their third league title in six years. so far, the team is 5-9 this season. to central america now where the honor durs leader who was exiled has set up camp. we find kerry sanders at the border. i understand you spoke with family today. why haven't they been able to leave? >> reporter: they're confused by why they're not allowed to leave. they know he was deposed at gunpoint, still wearing his pajamas. the family, his wife, his daughter, his son, his mother-in-law and his mother, are all at a small, little dusty town in honduras, trying to make their way north. we joined them in the vehicle as
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they drove through the first of seven check point. there, there is about 50 members of the military as well as the national police. they would not budge. helmets on, guns at the ready. they have riot shields out and would not let the zelaya family through. i spoke to the 24-year-old daughter of a exiled president. she's the one who was hiding under her bed when the leaders came in and removed her father from office. she's anxious and wants to go visit her father. this is what she has to say. >> they said that they're not in favor of the regime though they are not okay and not happy that the president is in nicaragua.
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they're saying it's not right. i believe that what the united states has to be condemning the repression against citizens. >> i have a question -- i'm just curious. we're hearing from zoe, but on the other hand, you have mitch lety, who's currently in office. he said this deposition was completely legal. >> reporter: and therein lies the conflict. bottom line is we saw that the family was unable to leave. it terms of the functionality of the government, while there was a lot shut down because the check points and border is closed and are literally members of the militia just about
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everywhere you look, the country is still functioning, it's just that supplies are not making their way to small towns, harder and harder to find food and water. you've got a de facto government that is maintaining order and things are going forward and an exiled president who is saying this is not legal, he's been removed illegally and he is begging the united states as well as other countries to stand up and attempt to put him back in power. and while his -- there have been no further movements towards returning him to office. >> thank you for staying on top of that story. to be continued and we'll keep touching base with you. cambridge police have released the 911 recording leading to the arrest of professor gates. cambridge leaders today
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emphasized the city and nation can move on after the president's sit-down with both. >> i think professor gates has said as the president has said as the parties here are saying, it's time to move forward. look at lessons learned and go from there. i hope that they enjoy their beer at the white house. >> coming up, tamron and david with "the big picture" and what's really on that tape. how race has played out on the call. up next, the latest on the death of michael jackson. plus, a new report that jackson was dead even before someone called 911. we'll have a live report from california. for arthritis pain... in your hands... knees... and back. for little bodies with fevers.. and big bodies on high blood pressure medicine.
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police continue to build their case for manslaughter. nbc's jeff rossen has the latest from burbank. >> reporter: what we have going on are two separate investigations. the coroner's investigation, which is really to determine the cause of death and a manner of death. they could check that little box if it was a homicide. if that happens, then a criminal case steps up and we're told the da could immediately charge somebody, maybe nobody. this is, we're told, a manslaughter investigation and of course the focus according to court papers, is dr. conrad murray, who is believed to be in las vegas right now. sources tell nbc news that lapd detectives are headed to las vegas to pursue more angles there. so it could be a very busy week on the criminal investigation front. like you said, we expect the
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reports out soon. on the "today" show this morning, we had katherine jackson's attorney on a air and matt asked if they were close to a custody deal. he said they were quote, close. matt asked, will you reach a deal with debbie rowe and his words were absolutely. >> all right. thanks for staying on top of it. coming up, the 911 tape that started the controversy over henry louis gates. also, the palin chronicals. she just can't stop talking. we'll analyze her last speech in office. and is reality tv exploiting overweight americans? that's coming up right after a break. floyd "money" mayweather has the fastest hands boxing has ever seen.
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