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>> it's g.i. joe, is he not american enough? a conservative complaint about the new movie and how hollywood depicts the u.s. military. all that and then, mattress dominos this hour on the "big picture." >> that is insane video. good afternoon. i'm tamron hall. >> i'm donny deutsch. a full hour on mattress dominos today. >> not this show. we do have the palin chronicles and what might be the former alaska governor's next big move. turns out she could be preparing for a career as some suspected as a radio star. the journal inside radio reports palin's reps have been quietly testing the water to see how much interest radio syndicators have for her. america sees her in a different role. in a fox news poll, most people say the best job would be "homemaker." in second place, 17% say she would make a good television talk show host.

14% say she should be vice president of the united states, 10% say college professor and 6% saying former governor palin should be the next president. chief white house correspondent chuck todd joins us. you could probably do a psychological study on what people mean by homemaker. the last on the list president, how big of a blow is that if she is planning for a bid for the white house? >> i think that's been part of the problem she's had to deal with since resigning the job, right? this was her big experience and so not serving out a full term as governor was always going to -- it's always going to dog her, and i think people see that -- i think that has a lot to do with it. but the radio host thing, frankly, plays into what could make her -- what could give her a future as a king or queen maker inside the republican party, talk radio is a place to talk to the base of the party, to talk to the base that shows up to rallies that loves her and

is still with her. these same people not necessarily thinking she should be president. that doesn't mean they don't love her and may listen to her as a potential person that says hey, i'm supporting x. that's why you should. >> she is compelling media figure, not a political figure. having said that though, this is a win win for her because radio is the ultimate grassroots campaign. basically, you go market by market and start in the strongholds and you have a three-hour daily pulpit to basically get your message out there. whatever knocks on her she doesn't have the knowledge base or not smart enough, on a daily basis, she could be making millions and actually set her up to possibly be a viable candidate. >> look, radio has been a particularly on the republican side, ronald reagan used radio whatever you want to call them adverorials after the '76 campaign. it is a place where conservatives gather.

she should be speaking to them. i would be shocked if she doesn't have a radio gig. it could end up being weekly. she said herself she wants to stay in the mix, the easiest fastest way is on radio and she could be a lucrative radio personality. it's not for everybody but she could be. >> staying in the mix includes courting independents. obviously, she cannot be a radio personalities ala rush limbaugh or glen beck where she us language like racist and some of the other things we heard from the two most successful in that game. >> don't confuse independents with populism. she is trying to set herself up as a. i for populace like pat buchanan here when he was a presidential candidate, he was able to launch a movement. it wasn't enough to get the nomination but enough to create a very strong -- there is the populace conservative movement. there are little prairie fires all over the country right now of people angry with government.

you throw that in, maybe a little anger at the media and if you see washington not working, but look at california. there's enough prairie fires she can tap into something and become the conservative populist which i think is her goal. don't confuse it with independents. but swing independents who live here on the east coast and midwest and an then there's the angry. >> her first guest would be pat buchanan. >> i was surprised because you were one of the 6% that said she should be president. that was strange to me. >> all right. >> thank you very much. of course, we're just joshing. can sarah palin make it as a rel on the radio? right now rush limbaugh is the leading voice of conservatives on the airwaves. but the former alaska governor could give him new competition. does rush have reason to worry? palin wouldn't be the first politician to turn to radio. joining us is jane norris of

federal news radio. she doesn't exactly have a face for radio in a strange way. does that take away what myself and a lot of people think has been a great appeal, the first woman in power with great physical and sexual appeal? does she lose that on radio. >> i don't think so. you asked whether she could be a good television talk show host. she has that option, as well. i don't think her looks have as much to do with her success as her message. >> we're going to go at it on that one. >> i'm certainly not a conservative radio personality, but i think it is diminishing of her to think her power is in her beauty. >> about what the american public, we've never seen anything like this. >> are you going to let me tell you? >> thank goodness. >> don't underestimate the power of the palins. people have underestimated her all along. the appeal of sarah palin is her traditional family values. she speaks to women, people who have families and that's something that is lacking in

politics today. you mentioned her political career. well, there have been plenty of personalities that have made their way into politics. i don't think ending up with a radio or television talk show is a bad platform to make it your way back into politics. she can make her point about some of the issues she cares passionately about and probably grind a few of her issues too, and make points about some of the things she thinks she's been treated unfairly on. >> what i'm surprised at, i'm going to keep coming back to the american public has never, men and women seen a woman in power that looks like this. we've seen thousands of politicians talk about family values. what's new is the package, frankly. >> she's simple and plain spoken and people can understand her. she has come from the grassroots. this is not a sophisticated person that set out to have a political career. she did it because she came from a point of seeking and trying to destroy people and their careers who were really corrupt. so i think she really spoke to

that part of the american public that really thinks that people who go and represent you should be of the people. and i think she is a citizen politician. that's very appealing. >> she's a babe. >> speaking of people who are folksy and hit home, you saw the skis a success and it was success of ross perot. he was fascinating. >> a small percentage of the vote. he was a quitter. he was a character. he was a quitter. >> make analysis of him being a quitter. this home, that she should be a homemaker, the large percentage say that's where she belongs. how do you read into that? >> i think it speaks to the fact she is a hokemaker, has had a successful career as a moemmaker and as governor. people view her family as one of her strengths, one of the areas she was attacked the most. the fact she had children at hem and a young baby that was just

born while on the political trail was the most troublesome. i think that's a positive. >> okay. jane, thank you very much. great respect for jane, but i mean, if you want to be a political voice in a poll, fox news says that you should be a homemaker. i think i would be a little concerned. >> i think that's more of an indictment on some of the people watching. guys, she's a babe. that's it. for you to still say if she looked like name the female politician that we'd be talking about her is absurd. admit it. this is what it is. we've never seen a woman in power that looks like this. >> folksiness and i think ross perot is a great example because he is not whatever the male version of babe is. >> truly, it's that simple. >> president obama back on the road today and once again trying to sell his plan to reform health care which donny is going to need health care after he gets beat up by a couple more guests bristol, virginia, key part of that state. in just a few minutes, the

president will be talking about the need to overall the health care system at a greeshry store of all places. this the second stop the president is making today. earlier he was in raleigh, north carolina, with a new message for american who's already have insurance. >> we have a system today that works well for the insurance industry. but it doesn't always work well for you. what we need and what we will have when we pass these reforms are health insurance consumer protections to make sure that those have insurance are treated fairly and insurance companies are held accountable. >> and there's a brand-new poll out this afternoon, a majority of americans back reform but are concerned about the details because we know the devil is oftentimes in the details. 62% believe reform will raise costs, 65% think it will be make everything more complicated and 56% think it will provide less choice of doctors and coverage. kelly o'donnell, talk to us

about strategy here. again, the president learning i guess from that town hall yesterday by the questions that were asked by the audience and the message that he needed to deliver today. >> definitely we're seeing different emphasis. it be be a cause and effect and the more town halls you do, the more opportunity to hit different points. he put out a written statement this afternoon talking about what's happening here in congress and giving pra praise to the blue dog democrats, those conservative democrats in the house who have been so much a part of the negotiations. by doing that, the president still trying to signal this tone of bipartisanship without really talking about the specifics in the written release today. got into a lot more detail when talking with citizens. here on capitol hill, there are some headlines. on the house side they have agreed to a bill in the committee, and that will be voted on they expect before they all go home. what we now know is the full house will not vote on health

care reform until at least september. so that gives us a timeline and also a chance to talk about where are they making some of the advances, and in part, what we're seeing is the influence of those conservative democrats. they say they've been able to trim a huge number off of the cost of the plan that's working its way through the house. again, this is just one of the steps. and it brings it in at $900 billion less than the 1 trillion talked about so much. >> he kelly o'donnell, good to see you. thank you. >> and we have a quick note we need to mention. on may 15th, we showed you pictures after incident involving a colgan airplane landing in buffalo, new york, three days earlier. there were no injuries. the plane landed safely, was repaired and put back in service. unfortunately the report also included some pictures of a plane crash landing in denmark. the two incidents were not related. the colgan plane was not the plane shown in the crash landing. we regret the editing error and

apologize to colgan air. up next, crossing the thin blue line. police, if you believe this, especially when we're talking about police and who's right, who's wrong, police this time caught on camera allegedly plotting to frame a suspect. >> it's really, really disturbing. what's wrong with old g.i. joe? one conservative analyst wonders if the new movie is not american enough. you can't make this stuff up but you cannot make up also we are watch the "big picture" on msnbc. (announcer) before they give you the lowest price,

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we're keeping an eye on. a boston police commission ser moving to fire an officer for allegedly sending a mass e-mail in which that officer allegedly used a racial slur to describe harvard professor henry louis gates junior. we have the slur. choosing not to repeat. >> it officer justin barrett was stripped of his gun, his badge as well after admitting he caused him this racial slur. he will face a termination hearing following a controversial arrest by sergeant james crowley of cambridge. this is a different police department. the two will have a beer with president obama tomorrow in an attempt to put the issue behind them. now a boston police officer sent out this. and i'm, these are two different police departments but an interesting area. >> there are still some bad eggs. scary stuff. now to a disturbing story from hollywood, florida. >> police officers caught on their own dashcam video

allegedly trying to frame a motorist. four officers are heard plotting to blame a fender-bender on a woman after one of the officers crashed into the rear of her vehicle with his patrol car. after the accident, early one morning in february, the officer involved radioed the other cop who converged on the scene. the woman allegedly told one she had been drinking, she was handcuffed and placed in the back of the car. the dashcam recorded the officers talking about what they were going to say happened.

. >> well, the four officers involved are now on administrative leave pending an investigation from the state's attorney office. joining us mark potter. i understand the hollywood police department is conducting an internal investigation in all of this. quite a mess they have there. >> they do have a mess. that's exactly what's happened. the hollywood police department in south florida is doing its own investigation and probably more importantly, as you indicated, the broward state attorney's office the prosecutors are also look floog whether these officers can be charged criminally. we just learned a short while ago from a defense attorney that those same prosecutors this afternoon walked into a courtroom in broward county and announced they were dropping on their own all the charges against the woman shown on that videotape, the woman arrested. all those dui charges we are told have now been dropped. her attorneys are describing what happened as a miscarriage

of justice. one said it was the worst case of police corruption he had ever seen. and those attorneys are also talking about potentially filing civil charges or a civil suit against those officers. meanwhile, those officers are actually on administrative duty which means they're not on leave, still in the department. they're working, getting paid. just not out on the streets. >> mark, what i don't understand is who is putting those recordings in there? obviously they didn't know they were being taped. how is that happening? >> well, they are there as part of a normal police procedure. it appears they for got they were still rolling and the microphones were picking up the officer as they talked. another point i want to make, there's a lot of talk about the cat. where was the cat. that story came from the woman herself who said that the reason she stopped the car which caused the officer slamming into the back of her car, she said she had picked up a stray cat and it

jumped out of the car. that's why she stopped. the officers built on that story. nobody's been able to confirm there was a cat. we're told by the people we've talked to no cat was ever pound. >> is this the result, are we going to start seeing more and more heightened attention put on misdoings of a cop? thank you so much. tamron, is this the beginning of a heightened sensitivity and attention to cops run amok as a result of the gates thing here? >> this happened in february before that. >> i don't think we would have been reporting on it the way we are today. >> i don't think the gates thing cause it. that's why we have the dashcams because for so long -- >> i think that's the interesting thing. >> it's caught on camera, and we love stuff like that at msnbc. caught on camera, you're going to make it. lots of new speculation about hillary clinton's political future. she's on the world stage right now and the reviews have been

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>> looking sharp today. have a good day. let's go. thank you for what you do, sir. looking excellent today. looking good today. mam, you're looking very professional today and i like your glasses. i like your matching headband and purple shirt. >> i love that. >> give me a compliment then. you've abused me. >> i complimented you greatly on twitter but to your face, you are a class act. i really like you. i say that from the bottom of my heart. >> i don't know where to go with that. >> one group is trying to -- i mean. >> he's not used to getting compliments. >> i'm stunned. look how one group is trying to make it into the record books. 41 employees in a british mattress company attempted to set a world record this week in mattress dominos. how about get a life? the last person in line falls on to a sconvey or. this group won't have any problems making it into the guinness book.

>> they'd better discount the damaged mattresses. i want to discount your playing around with my mattress. >> let's do this. >> look at him. that's okay. i'm jealous. fun day at work. ever play the game telephone as a kid? >> yes, i did. >> well, jake bron stein, one of the foundinging editors of "fhm" magazine, the men's magazine sent the record for longest whisper chain, he passed his message through 59 people. the message was the most exciting part. we're so mushy today. it's a wedding proposal to his girlfriend kristina. take a listen to the reaction. >> will you marry me? [ screaming ]

>> did you just whisper something to me? >> yes. >> what did you say? >> that you're nice too. >> we're way too mushy right now. we got caught up in the moment. >> we'll talk to a conservative analyst who thinks something is missing from the new g.i. joe film. >> how about when we just wanted a kung fu grip from g.i. joe. >> another republican lawmaker goes down because of a sex scandal. sex scandal and republicans is the new black. msnbc. 't always behave. "thunder and cracks of lightning." whatever i did my digestive upsets came back. but thename align with bifantis. the only probiotic clinically proven to provide ongoing protection against episodes of constipation, diarrhea, urgency, gas & bloating. align brings peace to my digestive system and to me. try align and discover a world of digestive peace.

i'm mike huckman with your cnbc mark wrap. stocks posting losses today. the dow dropping 26 points, the s&p 500 down four points. and the nasdaq falling nearly eight points. u.s. and canadian courts have approved erickson's bid to buy

next generation wireless technology and other assets from nortel networks for $1.1 billion as part of the deal, erickson will offer positions to about 2400 nortel employees. oil prices plunging nearly $4 today, the largest drop in more than three months. prices settled just above $63 a barrel as signs emerge consumers are cutting back on energy spending. a group seeking to block all home foreclosures in minnesota has filed a lawsuit against the government. the class action lawsuit contends a new federal program meant to help struggling homeowners refinance their mortgages fails to give them proper notice or the right to appeal when rejected. that's it from cnbc. now back to msnbc. welcome back. i'm tamron hall live in new york. >> i'm donny deutsch, also live in new york. late breaking developments in the bernie madoff fraud case.

>> the trustee overseeing the liquidation of assets has sued the wife of the $65 billion swindler. the suit seeks nearly $45 million now from ruth madoff and claims she lived a life of splendor for decades using the money that belonged to customers of her husband's investment firm. it does not claim she was involved criminally. she gave up most of her assets last month. under the deal with the federal authorities, she was allowed to keep $2.5 million but not the $7 million manhattan penthouse where she lives. the suit is worth far more than she allegedly has. >> most people in the know feel she had to know. she was his confidante. you couldn't get to him unless you got to her. >> how does the suit seek $45 million when she only has $2 million? >> it's the lawyers. there's a lot of places to dig. >> this is a hot topic. remember the cartoon and the action figure g.i. joe? well, the army action hero is

headed to the big screen. supposed to be a big blockbuster movie called "g.i. joe, the rise of cobra." opens next friday. we've got a preview of it. >> standing in front of you, a delta six accelerate ser suit. what's it accelerate? >> you. >> so maybe not the way you remember g.i. joe in his green camouflage and in its place, you can see that black and silver futuristic looking suit. >> now the bigger picture. is g.i. joe still an american? that's what one conservative columnist is asking. jon miller writes -- jon miller joins us now from washington, d.c. jaurngs i want to toss something

out at you that might put salt on your fire. there's one reason they didn't put him in red, white and blue because they want to is he the movie internationally. it's a business. they need to make money. it's not that it's un-american. it's a business decision. have you not figure it had out? >> i didn't say it was un-american but i was struck by the imagery here. the g.i. joe i remembered grow up had a red, white, and blue logo, he wore green army duds, looked like a guy who fought in world war ii or korea. i got interested in the subject because i saw the advertisements like the one you just showed. it could be a fun movie. i went on the website. i watched the trailers. i saw some of the movie tie-in books at the stores and i was struck by how different g.i. joe is from how he used to be. and there was no worries 20 years ago about how g.i. joe would play with an international

audience. these products were marketed all around the world back then. and they look quite different from how they do now. >> if you were an inrester in the production company, i don't know if it's viacom or universal, whatever it is, you would want the responsible business decision which is if it's going to sell a billion versus 200 million -- >> if i was a movie investor, whaltd not do is make anti-war movies that have flopped time after time as we have seen hollywood do. i would make a move about american here rose fighting in fallujah, a movie about medal of honor recipients fighting in afghanistan or iraq. i would make a movie about real american heroes. that by the way, is a real american hero is the tag line that g.i. joe used to use. >> they have made movies like that recently and unfortunately, americans turn it off. >> which movie are you referring to. >> real life fighters today in iraq and afghanistan.

they've done documentaries. >> i missed that movie. which is the movie hollywood did? >> a lot of movies in the last few years that hit on the very top.cal subjects. americans turn it off right now. >> what's the title. >> ial e-mail you the titles. you're ignorant. there have been several. >> the conversation still about our definition of what is american. and i understand notalgia. my father was a master sergeant in the army. i looked at an american flag every day i walked out of the door. it is great to have nostalgia. isn't it a burden to try to make everything, this is what american is or this is what american is not? it's just a movie? it doesn't make you more loyal because you have a flag pin which we've certainly debated time and again in this country. >> look, what i'm saying is that g.i. joe is not what he used to be. >> none of us are. >> this movie is marketed partly

on nostalgia. we remember what g.i. joe used to be. g.i. joe now apparently is an acronym that stands for global integrated joint operating entity which sounds like an a-team for the united nations for crying out loud. this is not the g.i. joe anybody remember. that's going to problem to be a challenge for moviemakers. >> jon, what is your favorite all-american movie. >> what do you think says america? especially when you talk about the soldiers and the troops and things? what is that movie. >> there are lots of great american war means. we know hollywood can make great war movies. they've done it again and again. what they're refusing to do now is make great war movies about real american here rose fighting today in afghanistan and iraq. >> john, appreciate it. tamron, i'm so tired of these american watchdogs. g.i. joe should look like this and it's un-american.

enough already. stupid. it angers me when we have to talk about and to somehow suggest that that movie is un-american, g.i. joe is un-american is absurd. >> i think we do need to stop the conversations of what is american even when you hear filibuster has all-american looks or he's an all-american guy that, definition has changed. it is not a race, it is not a type, not the boy or girl next door. we should probably get away from it. i wish john would have told me one movie that he feels defines america and he didn't. maybe he will e-mail us. >> band of brothers on hbo. there's tons of them. there have been recent means that take a more current view of it. >> that was a face-off in itself. the future of two of the most fascinating women in politics, picture this. a race, sarah palin, hillary clinton. it the future. fast forward. >> i like that a lot. that would be fun. >> could we see them square off

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developing now, the doctor at the center of the michael jackson investigation, he could lose the home, the luxury home that was raided yesterday by police. foreclosed officials, foreclosure officials say he has raked up more than $100,000 of debt on his country club and could be forced out by november. police search that had very home

and the doctor's clinic as a possible manslaughter investigation, they are said to be working on. murray has not been labeled a suspect but once you are thrown into the media attention, all these details how are, what you're doing come out. >> you sarah palin and secretary of state hillary clinton, will either of them wind up as president? we told you earlier sarah palin may now be look for a job as a radio talk show host after stepping down as alaska's governor. we also looked at a new report that secretary of state hillary clinton still has an eight-person political team and two campaign war chests totally more than $3 million despite insisting another run for president is not on her radar. could they end up running against each other? former advisor to hillary clinton campaign advisor josh got heimer and republican strategist doug hay who served as communications director for michael steele's 2006 senate campaign. josh, let's do a little role play and put you on the spot.

let's pretend it's 2016 and these are the two candidates. you're in charge of running hillary's campaign against palin. what's the platform, what's the 30-second commercial, hillary versus palin? >> that is putting me on the spot. >> good grief. i don't think we're going to get there. >> come on. just having fun with you. how do you position them against each other? >> i'd focus on at that point secretary clinton's eight years under barack obama as secretary of state after doing an incredible job represent our chief foreign policy office around the world working for president barack obama who was reelected because the foreign policy helped bring back our reputation and secretary clinton was part of that. of course, that's all such great hyperbole, because it's not on her radar. >> eight years as secretary of state and your candidate has been on talk radio for rush limbaugh. >> josh is right to highlight

her foreign policy experience. everything going on with president obama in the first 150 or so days, cap and trade, health care, these have been big losses. his ratings have gone down because of what he's done domestically. hillary clinton will say she wasn't involved. >> you to attack. >> does palin want to talk about the fact that that label of being a quitter has followed her? >> it's certainly an issue she's going to have to address. >> how can she address it in donny's fantasy land a few years from now? how does she address that in polling people see her as a quitter and better suited to be a homemaker? >> there's no better fantasy land than american politics. one of the things palin will have to do is how she did the right thing for alaska, if that's what she believes and to put forward actual ideas to move the country forward. if she does that and it's successful whether on television, the radio or speeches, they'll be formidable. she's a formidable fund-raiser.

>> eight years, sarah palin who? >> that's what many have predicted. >> josh, what do you make of the instant desire to compare these two because they are women because they are worlds apart. political realities, one exceeds or excels far beyond the other. >> i think they're both very -- i would give governor palin the credit. she's an accomplished a very accomplished woman who's raised a good family and obviously has accomplished a lot in her career. and senator -- secretary clinton both being a senator and first lady, very accomplished and got a lot done protecting her country. on the domestic side, has also been an incredible leader. >> is it an insult to secretary of state clinton, this is not a loaded question, is it an insult to secretary clinton who has accomplished so much and had the years to do it to instantly compare her to a newcomer? >>, of course, because of the fact they're women. i think that's ridiculous if you

look at them as people and look at their careers. they're worlds part. you can't even begin to compare the two in terms of what they've accomplished. i would say this. secretary clinton has already in less than a year's time, six months time, gotten an incredible amount done in the world stage and governor palin is leaving the world is taken because she obviously didn't feel like she could see her job through. i wish her well in a private life. i think a year from now we'll wonder who sarah palin is. >> one of the reasons the nation has embraced hillary now, sometimes we like to take our people down, particularly women. she lost and now we can build her up. sarah palin in a strange way, does she have to go down first before america can embrace her? is that a double standard with women in office. >> certainly after the campaign, people suggest she buckle down and do the job as governor.

she's a formidable talent and people underestimate not only what she's capable of but what she did in the campaign. >> what did she do for alaska? last i heard alaska has the highest high school dropout, number 50 as far as businesses wanted to do business there, the natural gas thing has not worked out. all kinds of ethics charges? what is her big success? i missed that. >> she'll probably point to ethics successes and things like that. once she was pulled on the national is taken, that became where she put a real focus on. >> she had the last count was 18 or 17 ethics complaints, not ethics successes. >> but she beat them all back and also talking about ethics reform within the state is one of the reasons john mccain picked her. go back to when she was nominated. people focused on the katie couric interview or mistakes that were made. for two weeks, john mccain was in the lead. one of the reasons is because he picked sarah palin.

she was very success follow for the mccain period in that short amount of time. >> how you start is how you have to finish. in the end. >> no question. >> thank you both, gentlemen. great talking to you. this is like fantasy politics, like fantasy football. we've got to invent a new thing. >> it will be interesting your sexist thing in reverse, hillary being 68, no problem with a man. >> the oldest. >> when you look at some of the great world leaders, gold ma my years margaret thatcher, maybe that's what the world needs. >> i'm never going to run for supreme court. a wise woman will always beat out a wise man. >> give me a woman and a man in the same town, i'll take the woman every time. >> a gop lawmaker gets a little friendlier. he got beyond friendly. he had sex with his intern. >> president obama making it a bud light at the white house

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developing news. the pentagon says 5,000 troops may be brought home from iraq early if the trend away from violence holds. defense secretary robert gates says one extra brigade could be

home by the end of the year. just seven u.s. troops have died, seven u.s. troops have died. they are seven lives and seven family affected by this. but seven have died so far this month. the lowest monthly total since the war started in 2003. >> there's a lot going on here today. here are three things you should definitely know. >> tennessee state senator paul stanley stepping down after affair with an intern. he will leave august 10th. he told agencies investigating an extortion case that he had a sexual relationship with 22-year-old mckensie morrison. morrison's boyfriend is charged with trying to extort $10,000 from stanley in return for pictures and video. apparently taken with a cell phone camera of the both or one of them. and he also apparently had fought gay marriage and fought providing contraception saying you should abstain.

>> it's interesting with so many of these repress i be views and they're the ones doing the whacked out stuff. democrats fighting back on the stimulus with a new tv ad. the dnc is blaming members of the republican party for their role in recession. take a look. >> they supported the bush policies that sank our economy into recession. they broke it, now they refuse to fix it. tell republican leaders to stop playing politics with our economy. >> interesting. well, traffic on the official white house website dropped dramatically despite a redesign of whitehouse.gov was red hot after the president's inauguration but dropped to that of the final days of george w. bush's final days in office. >> maybe that's a little bit of what we've been talking about, a little bit of obama wearout. the great news is we have this amazing tellgenic figure. they've been programming a lot

and maybe the same way people go on the website less, i think he's wearing out a little bit. pull him back a little bit. >> could it be you can get the information from so many sources maybe more user friendly. >> over the past couple of months, it's interesting. got to watch that. >> those are the things we thought you should know today. >> there are signs of improvement on health care reform and our next read on politics with the stories we'll be watching. >> doe min know montadroa. we love havings you with us. what are you watching for us? >> obviously, we did see progress on health care toward some deals that we saw there. we'll probably see an important committee vote out of the house by friday. and the senate is still on track to possibly do something before the august recess. on president obama's radar tomorrow, he's going to be

meeting with the philippine president at the white house and tomorrow also, like you mentioned, the beer summit with president obama, professor dpaets and sergeant crowley. they'll throw back a few brews on the south lawn of the white house at about 6:00. >> i fumbled your last name. a ii apologize for doing that. will this be it? after thursday, now you've got the woman who made the 911 call, these two men with the president. having a beer. do we even know what types of beers they're drinking? is it done after thursday, at least the political implications of what happened after? >> we'll see if it's done. we've seen the left and right both kind of come out on this. you've seen our poll numbers today and we've seen a partisan divide even in the poll we had. you know, the bigger question for me is i'm wondering why they're not drinking sam adams. maybe harpoon or