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things up. no more room in overcrowded animal shelter refuses to take in more pets because of tough economic times. a scream contest where speaking volumes can win you cold, hard cash. more of that. good morning, i'm alex witt. we've got all that for you plus a youtube sensation spawned a spoof that's also becoming quite a big hit out there. the u.s. military just found the remains of a u.s. navy pilot who was shot down during the first few days of the first iraq war more than 18 years ago. lieutenant commander scott speicher was originally declared dead but his status later changed to missing because his remains were never found.
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nbc's jim miklaszewski joins us from washington with all those details. things have changed now, mick. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, alex. sho shortly after the iraqi came forward, the u.s. military, the pentagon, even then-secretary of defense dick cheney were so convinced back there on the first day of the gulf war in 1991 that scott speicher was killed when his f/a-18 hornet was shot down in western iraq that he was declared dead. but subsequently because his body was never found, and in fact the wreckage was eventually located and his flight suit was found intact. it raised the possibility he in fact survived the shootdown of his fighter jet and he may have been taken into iraqi custody. under saddam hussein in an iraqi prison. by january 2001, the pentagon changed his status from killed in action to missing. that set a whole series of events into motion. that involved several investigations. when the u.s. invaded iraq in 2003, they dedicated an entire
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military unit to the search for scott speicher. they didn't find him until last week when the u.s. marines were led to the grave site very near where the jet crashed. they recovered the remains and forensic experts back here in the united states positively identified those remains as scott speicher's. >> so, mick, with the location of the remains being so close in proximity to the crash site, is it presumed that he died in the crash or shortly thereafter? >> that was the mystery from the very beginning. they found his flight suit inta intact. leaving the speculation that he perhaps survived the crash and was then taken into custody to either die of his injuries or perhaps be killed or remained in custody. one of these iraqis said he witnessed the plane go down, actually witnessed them burying the remains of scott speicher close to the crash scene which would indicate that he probably was killed in the crash or died shortly thereafter of his
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injuries. but that is yet to be determined. military officials will try to determine whether in fact he may have been killed instantly or the result of the crash. that could be very difficult at this stage and given the condition of the remains that were found. nevertheless, this does sort of close a chapter -- a somewhat frustrating chapter in the first gulf war of 1991. particularly the u.s. navy. by the way, i might mention that once he was declared missing, and his status was then changed, that his family was paid back pay an since then he received two promotions from lieutenant commander to commander, and then captain. so while he went down as a lieutenant commander, his rank today is captain. >> thank you for that detail. we tresh thappreciate that, mic. let's focus on the economy. nbc's david gregory welcomed
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larry summers, the president's top economic advisor to "meet the press" today. they discussed how the recession seems to be drawing to a close but the average american might not see changes immediately. >> the evidence is from a very, very low base, housing proud sh -- production, automobile sales are likely to increase. the recovery investment program is going to gather force over the next six months. >> nbc's mike viqueira live at the white house for us. mike, a final good morning to you this sunday. did summers get specific about when we're going to see unemployment reduced? >> it's a very interesting thing. there were polls out during the course of this week that showed that lagging public confidence on the administration's policies on the recession, the deficit and health care. what administration officials did today as they found out
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across sunday talk shows, first and foremost larry summers was on "meet the press," was to try to tie all of them together, show they're all part and parcel of the same thing. let's listen to what larry summers had to say to david gregory earlier this morning. >> there has never been this degree of careful scrutiny of long-run cost impacts, and it's right because the center of this has to be containing health care costs. otherwise it is not going to work for most families. >> he's talking about health care reform an its effect on the deficit and its effect on the economy. most economists and many republicans critics say the level of deficit this country is running is unsustainable. larry summers addressing that and on the jobs question, you're right, time and time again we've heard the white house and other officials say that the unemployment rate is a lagging indicator, it is going to continue to climb, it's approaching 10% now. new figures will be out for this
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previous month on monday. it could reach as high as 10%. you can expect a firestorm of public concern and political criticism after that. what we've seen over the previous few days, as administration officials try to prepare people for that, while at the same time trying to take credit for what they see as a bottoming out of the economy and a turning of the corner that we've seen in the last couple of months. >> mike, what about health care? >> again, the health care debate now, they're trying to emphasize the fact that medicare is growing out of control, baby boomers will enter medicare and these entitlement programs like that and medicaid are going to represent one-fifth of the american economy when you throw in all health costs all together. they say something has to be done about that in the long term. virtually everyone agrees on that. if the economy is to propose per, if deficits are going to be brought under control, everybody's expressing confidence trying to accent wait the positive on the democratic side, committee vote on friday before the house left.
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alex, there's still a long way to go when they return in september. it will last through the fall in all likelihood, this debate on health care reform. >> good point, mike viqueira, thanks. as democrats in congress head home to sell health care reform to their constituents there is evidence seniors in particular are skeptical of the proposal. just 20% of americans age 65 and over think the health reform bill would improve the quality of their medical care. when asked what the bill would do to their coverage, more than a third of seniors say it would reduce the amount of health coverage they have now. 12% think their coverage would expand. i'm joined live from washington by a.b. stoddard, associate editor and columnist with "the hill" newspaper. good morning again. >> good morning, alex. >> how influential are seniors in the health care debate, a.b.? >> well, they're very influential. not only are they the most vulnerable and they're highly educated about these matters, but they're very concerned these
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days because of what they're hearing. some of it is not true. thing politically for the white house with this group is this -- they are the most loyal in terms of coming to the voting box. the next election's up, the congressional mid-term elections in the fall are usually elections where the party that is not in power does better. this won't be good news for the democrats next fall. the economy is still lagging and jobs haven't returned. are you looking at angry voters showing up. if those are seniors that believe that the health care debate went in the wrong direction, that is trouble for the white house right now. when you look at those polls, seniors are not happy with what they're seeing coming out of the congress. >> these antireform ads tailored to the seniors, they say the bill would let the government decide how people die. come on, is this an effective tactic or is it going to turn people off? >> it is an effective tactic because people believe them when you saw the president go to address aarp last week, he was
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getting calls about these rumors that government workers were going to come to your door if you're a senior citizen and ask you to agree to die young. this is powerful stuff. whether this stuff is true or not, this is very scary to them. you're getting lots of phone calls to members of congress on the democratic side, and lots of phone calls to the aarp and other groups about whether or not their care is going to be rationed to the point where they won't be able to be taken care of at the end of their life. this is very potent. so whether some of it is true and a lot of it is untrue, this is the month of august ahead of us with congress out of town, and only barack obama at the bully pulpit to sort of counterthicounter this, whether members are walking to their car or holding a town hall meeting, these are the issues. it is a very tough debate. >> i think when we try to dispel the lies out there, the reality is what this provision provides
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for, seniors can go to a physician once every five years, get the word from that physician on things like euthanasia, things on creating livings will, things like that, educate them on the process, then they get to make the choice. isn't that what this is about? >> that is the provision. that is true. i think it is easy though for opponents of health care reform to go at this message and massage it to say, you know what? we don't know what's going to happen when this passes, we don't know what a government health care program will do for you, we don't know how much rationing's going to take place. this is a risky experiment is what they're saying. so when confronted with the facts, there's still a way for opponents to paint this as the unknown and the unknown is scary to seniors. >> okay, a.b. stoddard, see you next weekend. today on "meet the press," david gregory talks to one of the obama administration's key advisors. you heard clips of that earlier. catch david's entire interview
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with the national economic council director larry summers when "meet the press" reairs at 2:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc sunday. take a look at this. it could be the first-ever look at michael jackson's deathbed. a british tabloid is publishing what it claims is a picture of jackson's bedroom taken just after he died. this as lawyers gear up for tomorrow's courtroom showdown over jackson's estate. courtney hazlett, thank you for being here. let's get to the photo. legitimacy of this photo. is it verified? did a family insider give this photo to a tabloid? >> we have no idea. nobody who would have direct knowledge of whether this was michael jackson's bedroom or whether this was really taken after a resuscitation event. none of these people have come forward and say on the record this is a legitimate photo.
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as far as how they obtained this photo, is somebody in the jackson family or very close to the jackson family -- call it what it is -- selling these photos to certain tabloids? we certainly hope that's not the case but there are a lot of rumors swirling around that there are jackson siblings who don't have money and they need money and they will go to great lengths to get money. there's that. i also spoke to some people with direct experience with resuscitation and looking at this photo, it's one of two things took place. either the world's tidiest paramedics came and asemted to resuscitate jackson or there was no substantial effort made if that is his bedroom. because if you look at a scene where resuscitation takes place, there's material strewn all about. alcohol swabs, packaging, things like that. people aren't neat when they're trying to save a life. so lots doesn't add up in this photo. when it is in the backdrop of nobody's coming forward saying,
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yes, on the record this is michael jackson's bedroom, the photo taken after he -- resus attempt was made, i dhont think you can take it too seriously, other than to say it is just another case of the pudz puzzle where people are trying to profit from this story. >> that's not a surprise in this day and age. for all of you, stay tuned to msnbc all day tomorrow for the latest on the jackson hearing. we'll have live reports. we'll pause right here. still ahead, he hopes to redeem himself. should michael vick's hometown throw a celebration for him? this is the wedding video. a youtube hit that's triggered a response. stay with us on nicolas sarkozy. are are product do women think is best?
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three americans have been detained in iran. the united states government is now working to get them released. officials say the two men and one woman mistakenly crossed into iranian territory while they were hiking near a resort town along the iraq border. they started out in turkey, then moved to iran. there was another man with them there but stayed behind at the campsite. he's reportedly been turned over to u.s. embassy officials fishlfishl. there is no break from the health care debate. things are heating up as congress heads home to tell its constituents why health reform will make their lives better or worse depending. i'm joined live from washington by democratic
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congressman jerry conley of virginia. he's a member of the house budget committee. good morning to you, sir. >> good morning. >> this week r"roll call" said you seem to have succeeded in bringing republicans to the health care debate. >> our is a more complicated message we're dealing with, a multi facetted part of the american economy that is very complex and huge. the republican message machine is pretty simple. they scare people. they distort what's in the bill and theirs is an unrelenting negative message. over time that's taken a toll. >> i know that your district, sir, has the highest median income in the united states. the "wall street journal" quotes you as saying 14% of your constituents earn $200,000 or more a year. so if a health bill ultimately included provisions for taxing the wealthy to help pay for the care, would you still support
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it? >> well, i have said that the surcharge that came out of the house ways and means committee, the threshold for that surcharge are too low. more importantly, why are we even talking about revenue enhancement at all before we've run up every possible cost saving in the system? form, pharma's put $80 billion on the table in savings. the insurance industry has put zero dollars on the table. why are we looking first at savings before we talk about any kind of ref new enhancement? >> look at the "l.a. times" article which reports the health care you get as a member of congress is pretty darn good. they list it -- you get your choice of ten national health care plans plus hmos from your own state. special treatment at federal medical facilities and there's no such thing as pre-existing
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conditions. what is your take? >> i'm not aware of any special member health care program. i signed up for blue cross/blue shield likeless of other federal employees. as far as i know, health care benefits available to me are pretty similar to the health care benefits available to anybody who works for the federal government. but i think that's the point. why can't we make those benefits available to every american? >> that is a great point. what you think is standing in the way of that? what members of congress and the federal government employees get is great. why not extrapolate that out for the country? >> well, that's what we're trying to do with health care reform, i hope. we are going to eliminate previous existing conditions. we are going to cap the costs so that no family is destroyed by catastrophic illness. we are going to close the doughnut hole for seniors. we are going to make sure that insurance policies are portable so if you change or lose jobs
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you don't automatically lose health care coverage for you and your family. those are very important reforms that the are essence of what we're trying to do with health care reform in america. >> virginia's democratic congressman gerry connelly, thank you for joining us. a couple breaks up and a big fight over their dog begins. $40,000 later, dexter is still in limbo. - ( microphone feedback ) - whoa. hi, i'm john.
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baseball players, manny ramirez and alex rodriguez. good morning. carl, michael vick was a generally well liked player before this whole dog fighting scandal and conviction. does that surprise he he was ranked number one? on the field, this guy rocks. >> well, good morning, alex. you look lovely this morning. i'm delighted to join you again today. >> thank you. >> it doesn't surprise me. doesn't surprise me about michael vick being number one because, remember, for the last two years no sports figure in america has been more reviled consistently in the media than michael vick. naturally the american people have responded to that by treating him and responding to him in a negative fashion. he's been in the media forum day
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in and day out with no one defending him. he was the most hated. manny ramirez was number two and he's got his own section out in left field in dodger stadium. and kobe bryant, kobe bryant was number five on that list. he just got a ticker tape parade celebrating his victory. think that the reality is, the american people with their sports heroes that go astray, their attitude is, you know what? we hate you for all of the bad things that you've done but we know here that you're averaging 28 points a game, let us be the first to welcome you to our fair city. >> big fans in l.a. for both kobe bryant and manny ramirez there, dodgers and lakers. michael vick had to to say after being reinstated this week. as you can imagine, the last two years have given me time to re-evaluate my life, matured as
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an individual and fully understand the terrible mistakes i've made in the past and what kind of life i must lead moving forward. people talk about suggesting things like working, volunteer be at an animal shelter. is that the kind of thing he's got to do to rehabilitate his image? >> let me be clear here. let's play hardball. i like to hit the issues hard. the reality is whatever michael vick did, our society has required him to do certain things to demonstrate his contrition and to essentially express his remorse. that is in terms of the penalty that was assessed. michael vick has completely and fully complied with the requirements of his sentence and just like the rest of us, in all of america and all of these different areas, whether it be a wall street executive who continued to give moneys to bonuses, even when it's taxpayer bailouts, whether it is baseball steroid players who continue to get accolades from the fans even
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when they've been proven to do steroids, if you've paid your time by doing the time, it is time to move on. >> correct. but for some it will haunt them forever. something a "sports illustrated" writer wrote recently -- vick is a role model for having it all and throwing it all away through stupidity, arrogance and sheer evil. if he gets to step on the field we'll remind us of how young athletes can so easily fall from grace. he will remind us of shame and hubris, he'll remind us of cruelty to animals. he will pay his debt to society by helping us remember what we should not forget. there is and element of society that will say that holds. >> i don't buy that for one second. if we allow people who kill human beings in drunk driving accidents, and then after a year or two they can go back on the field, and if we allow the rest of us in the regular society to engage in repeatedly offensive acts that threaten human life -- not a dog's life -- i'm not
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disparaging dogs. about let's keep separate animals from human beings. if we can forgive those who take the life intentionally or recklessly of other human beings, we can certainly move forward with michael vick in this situation based on what's happened here. i must tell you that roger goodell i believe makes a mistake if he goes beyond the punishment that's already been meted out to enact even further penance for michael vick. >> at least at this point he has to sit out for six weeks of the season. can't get back until october and we have to see who will take him, too. carl jeffers, thanks so much. let's go to a lot of hot air now. >> kind of sounds like mick in my ear. anyway, these ear splitting moments brought to you by a screaming contest in thailand. the grand prize was $882. one contestant in particular gave it his all.
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msnbc is the place for politi politics. this morning on "meet the press," david gregory spoke with larry summers and asked whether the president was losing the economic argument on health care. >> in past tax cuts at the beginning of this decade, we passed a prescription drug benefit at the beginning of this decade. nobody even thought about the question of how they were going to be paid for it, how much
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better it is to be doing these things this way. the way this president is doing it by insisting on it be paid for, by insisting it be done in a balanced budget. >> that's a very important point. >> you can watch david gregory's entire interview with larry summers at 2:00 eastern right here on msnbc sunday. let's get a closer look at the strategy the obama administration is using to sell the public on health care reform. joined live from washington, the national health policy reporter for "the washington post," c.c. in your article, you quote a former president clinton staffer say you don't buy the idea that health reform is an economic fix. what's the strategy we'll see next from the obama administration? >> well, what we're learning from the administration and we're starting to see bits and pieces of it already is much more of a focus on what will
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improve, presumably, for the 180 million americans who already have health insurance. we know that most of those people are middle class, voting americans. they're a very important constituency, they're a constituency that right now are very nervous about the impact of these changes. you hear much more about the discussion of the proposed changes that affect how the insurance market operates. when we hear people complain about denied coverage because they have a pre-existing condition or they see their premiums double and triple every year because of some sort of illness or because they reach a certain age, the changes that are being proposed by obama and democrats in the congress would very much address those sorts of insurance problems. >> what about, as you also say the democratic legislators' concern they're losing the message war. if that's the case, cici, how have republicans gained the upper hand and do you see that continuing through this august
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recess? >> well, i think it's important to point out that it is always much easier to criticize and to simply look for things to be against than to propose comprehensive legislation that affects more than one-sixth of the u.s. economy. that's just a simple fact of being in the minority versus the majority party. that being said, the republicans have had this message that came in part from strategist alex cast castlenos that some things proposed in health care would be fairly new directions for our country to move in. technically speaking there will be some experiments out there but that's been a very effective message by the republicans according to everything we see in the polls. >> cici, you talk about the talk radio campaign frightening seniors out there, the health care bill moving through congress that they say it will lead to the end of life
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rationing, discussion of euthanasia. what it does do is allow a senior to go to their doctors once every five years, talk about living wills, talk about the way they would want to die if put in a horrible situation. that's the truth. how are people going to be able to disseminate between the two? is it all about these campaign ad wars that are just going to be unbelievable this next month? many of them literally so. >> it is. maybe the solution is we should all just head to the beach for the month of august, alex. because it might get a little bit scary out there. i think that what this illustrates is that there's ongoing pressure on the administration and it's allies in congress, democrats in congress, that they have to counter this misleading but very frightening message that you sometimes hear from different opponents. as you point out, there's nothing to this. the provision in the legislation simply says that if you sit down
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with your doctor and want to have a conversation about your options and wish, that doctor can be reimbursed noor counseling session. that's it. >> thanks for clearing that up. we appreciate that. now to an economic sign of the times. in dixon, tennessee there's no more room at the humane society animal shelter. so many people have dumped their pets on that shelter because they can't afford to care for them. end result, the shelter's no longer accepting new animals. >> we just cannot house, feed and care for the number of animals that have been coming in the door. our euthanasia rate has jumped from 20% to over 40%. that's gigantic. >> the shelter hopes to expand adoption hours will help them find new homes for all of those precious pets. the stage is set for a courtroom showdown over michael jackson's estate. katherine jackson asking a judge to give her some control over her son's millions. in the same courtroom, that same
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judge will rule on the custody agreement reached by katherine jackson and debbie rowe last week. joining me live, a criminal defense attorney and former prosecut prosecutor. what katherine jackson's asking for tomorrow is not more money. she already gets 40% of the will. >> she gets 40%. she wants to be a co-executor to make decisions as to the estate as she goes forward. that's what she's trying to do. >> she's trying to do that. johna, how much will this cross pollinate with the same judge in the courtroom? you have katherine jackson reportedly getting the custody, debbie rowe will get some visitation rights but no more money. she mass to care for these kids, katherine jackson, and get some cash because michael jackson supported her. if you're the executor of a will, don't you get some stipend for that? >> you do or can but it is not for that purpose. not to take care of the kids.
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it is simply going to be let's assume the will is valid and you will get "x" a dollars. we can give you some of that in advance if we find you have necessary expenses. she will probably get some money now but the final determination won't happen for some time. >> this one was short and sweet. thank you so much. to all of you, stay tuned to msnbc all day tomorrow. we'll have live reports throughout the day and more msnbc sunday after this. but i try not to let it slow me down. i go down to the pl for a swim... get out and dance... even play a little hide-n-seek. i'm breathing better... with spiriva. announcer: spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled maintenance treatment for both forms of copd... which includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. i take it every day. it keeps my airways open... to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid.
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she's contesting david vitter in the election. patrick gavin joins me. what's going on? >> no one knows what's going on. i think what we need to figure out is what's going to happen to stormy daniels' potential political ambitions. she's thinking about challenging republican david vitter who has had some infidelity problems of his own. her argument is that, look, all of my dirty laundry is out there and exposed and i'm not a hypocrite. david vitter she says is a hypocrite. that may or anmay not be true. but this may lend an air of unreliability to her home life and poe lengthsly her leadership as well. this definitely affects her campaign. >> last hour you said this is louisiana state politics and in fact when it comes to this car explosion of her associate, one
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of her advisors, does this have anything to do with her campaign, with her running for office? >> well, the local affiliate, local fire department, recently came out and said that it wasn't a bomb explosion. a car definitely was ablaze but there was no explosion. that can mean all sorts of things. that could be faulty wiring, who knows. it almost seems as if the stormy daniels campaign is pushing the story a bit more than the evidence would lead it, maybe to draw some attention away from the fact that stormy daniels had a bit of domestic disturbance back home. there's no proof of the fact there was some foul play but her political advisor is certainly suggesting that perhaps this was was one way to scare her out of the campaign by who knows, david vitter. he's not saying but they're certainly not letting this story die. until the evidence comes out, we'll just have to wait and see where the chips fall. >> take a listen to how she made a legitimate claim for running
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for this office in may. >> the less seriously opponents take me the easier it is for me to sneak up on them. and also maybe it will inspire someone else who is extremely qualified who's the best person in the state to do the job. maybe it will encourage the person to step up and run, too. >> do you think this arrest has pretty much shot her credibility? >> the arrest certainly hurts her. one other thing she's not doing very well, she's gone on a listening tour, done a few town halls. she's almost up-playing the fact she's a porn star. a lot of her comments delve into sexual innuendo and saucy language. i think louisiana will's not above electing a porn star. they've certainly elected some sketchy characters in the past but i think if she wants to be elected she has to make the turn from "i was a porn star, now i'm an effective leader." that's all in the past, but she's been going back to her,
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but this is probably part of her appeal but if she wants to be taken seriously stop with the sexual jokes and start focusing on her policy positions. >> patrick gavin, appreciate that. one new jersey courtroom is going to the dogs. one in particular. it is a three-year custody battle over dexter, the pug. a judge has to decide who will get poor dexter there because his owners, eric and doreen, wren gauged but in 2006 they called off the engagement. at first eric allowed doreen to take the pug, then he changed his mind and the pair's been arguing about it in court ever since. so far together they have spent a reported $40,000 in legal g s bills. let's bring in lisa green for some perspective. how much is a pug worth? >> this particular pug was worth $1,500. that's how much they paid for the dog. originally when they went to court the first time, the judge said itch's got a solution.
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eric, you take the pug, doreen, you take $1,500. but doreen misses her dog and wouldn't settle for that. the appeals court says that's no solution, go back to the trial court. >> so that's the trial court to figure out what? could it be you get one week with eric, one week with doreen? is that any way for a dog to live? >> people who have pugs really adore them. we talked about that. in fact that could be one solution. judge has basically said to both sides, i need some creative ideas fast because my first plachb action didn't really satisfy the appellate court. >> wasn't doreen more hands-on pug owner, if you will? >> there's evidence from the photographs we're showing which are doreen's photographs dressing dexter up in adorable clothes but both sides really want to keep this pug. you could argue maybe the court isn't the right place to settle this. i think they'll have to come to some resolution of this case. $40,000?
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>> i know, you're right. when you talk about this and look at other custody disputes, and when you divide up say in a divorce or a broken engagement, a house potentially, children, you never know, are pets going to get special treatment now going forward in cases? >> in new jersey this is a case that's a first of ifof court, p high court, said these are not furniture or money. these are like estate or heirloom pieces. we have to treat them in a different way. you can't put a price on a pug. >> thank you very much, lisa green. we'll watch where poor dexter goes. in a moment, the answer to the wedding video. ever worn your clothes in the shower? if you're using other moisturizing body washes, you might as well be. you see, their moisturizer sits on top of skin, almost as if you're wearing it. only new dove deep moisture has nutriummoisture,
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you might remember this. take a peek. ♪ >> this rocks, literally speaking. right? it had 14 million hits on youtube and is having a ripple effect because a divorce court parody of that dancing wedding party has become the latest craze on youtube. so, let's check this out. ♪ >> we talk about it with an entertainment columnist and author of a book and nobody better to talk about it than this guy. what do you think about this whole thing, first the wedding video, then the divorce parody? >> it reminds us weddings are
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supposed to be joyous occasions, not these dreaded events you have to go to and buy the blender and get it back after the divorce. the divorce video is fantastic because it shows divorce is a joyous occasion because you're free of that horrible marriage that wasn't what it started out to be. >> let's talk about the song here, chris brown. >> chris brown's song "forever" he gets more positive exposure than from his hometown because of the famous incident beating rihanna. i would say use rihanna's "umbrella." >> singing in the rain. >> but chris brown, alex, had a positive video recently where he apologized to his fans for what he did. he wore like a "star trek" outfit, talked fast, mentioned his mother and his minister a lot. this is going to help chris bro brown's career more than his apology. >> has his career needed help? >> it needed help. though he has a solid fan base that stand by him no matter
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what, others raise their rye aye brows like me and say do we really want to support this guy? >> what about the wedding video people? >> fefl bad about supporting chris brown's career, a known abuser, so they've used their website to support an anti-domestic violence charity and are askinging for donations. >> that's cool. we're hearing this chris brown song, you and i are talking about it, but what about the copyright infridgement? in the past, someone put that kind of music on their youtube video and they get hammered for it. >> the rules have gone to the wind because the music industry is in the toilet and they'll allow you to apparently to put it on youtube, use it at your wedding. >> and real quick, viral videos. why do some make it and some don't? why do you think that is? >> i'd like to know that because it's my own book signings. the same 12 people that were at
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the signing i don't want them to click on it. it's captured the attention of the community. >> michael, you just sit right there. i'm going to wrap up the show and explain why your book signing publicly doesn't go viral. that's it. thank you to michael mus toe. a wrap of our live msnbc coverage. see you for more news in one hour. have a great sunday. sometimes the best way to get closer... is to get as far away from it all as possible. don't let erectile dysfunction get inhe way. ♪ viva viagra! viagra, america's most prescribed ed treatment, can help you enjoy... a more satisfying sexual experience. ready to talk to your doctor? find out how at viagra.com ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. don't take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain... as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects may include headache, flushing,
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